back to indexIs It Love If I Don’t Feel It?
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Pastor John, here's a good question that we get all the time and it's worth 00:00:03.560 |
addressing frequently in this podcast. It comes from a listener named Jacqueline 00:00:07.280 |
who writes, "Hello Pastor John, I have a follow-up question to episode number 897. 00:00:11.520 |
I appreciated your answer to the question, 'Is love fake if it's motivated 00:00:16.080 |
by a reward?' As a follow-up I want to ask this, is love fake if it's only motivated 00:00:22.260 |
by duty? I'm thinking of relationships where the believer acts lovingly, as in 00:00:27.480 |
Philippians 2.4 and in 1st Corinthians 13, but without the feeling of love, often 00:00:33.760 |
due to ongoing sin in the life of the beloved. Is it enough to love because I 00:00:38.360 |
am supposed to if I know in my heart it is not tied to the desire to know and 00:00:42.960 |
glorify Christ as you mentioned? Does the motivation for reward fuel love in that 00:00:47.880 |
episode?" Well let me start with an illustration. I read this years ago in 00:00:53.480 |
Edward John Carnell's book, oh the name just slips my mind, Christian Commitment. 00:01:00.280 |
That's the name of it. He says, "Suppose a man asks, 'Must I kiss my wife goodnight?'" 00:01:09.200 |
Carnell gives the answer, "Yes, but not that kind of must." That's very profound. 00:01:18.080 |
It really affected my Christian Edenism. What did he mean? What did he mean? He 00:01:23.160 |
meant that the man who asked this question misunderstands the nature of 00:01:30.520 |
duty. He thinks that duty only relates to the external behavior of kissing, and if 00:01:41.000 |
he kisses his wife he's done his duty. But Carnell's point is that Christian 00:01:47.560 |
duty is deeper than physical acts, always deeper than physical acts. Our duty 00:01:53.600 |
includes not only the external physical acts that are appropriate, virtuous, but 00:02:01.840 |
also a right heart or a right disposition or right set of affections, 00:02:08.960 |
emotions. So yes, it is a man's duty to kiss his wife, but that includes the duty 00:02:17.920 |
of feeling affection for his wife. Now I think Jacqueline might be making the 00:02:26.680 |
same mistake as the husband in that illustration. Maybe. I might 00:02:30.880 |
misunderstand her, but let's see if this helps. She asks, "Is love fake if 00:02:38.080 |
it's motivated by duty? Is it enough to love because I'm supposed to?" That 00:02:46.720 |
sounds like she conceives of love as a set of external behaviors which one can 00:02:55.160 |
will even if one does not feel any gladness in the act of love. But is 00:03:04.000 |
that the biblical duty of love? Does not love, biblically speaking, include more 00:03:12.280 |
than mere physical behavior? Always include more than mere physical behavior. 00:03:17.880 |
So I want to argue that our duty is more than deeds, always more than deeds. The 00:03:28.320 |
duty to give, for example, includes the duty to rejoice in giving. So giving or 00:03:36.800 |
loving out of duty when there is no delight in giving is really only doing 00:03:46.000 |
half our duty. God's will, as revealed in the New Testament, is that our loving 00:03:53.800 |
behavior, deeds, should always include gladness in God that overflows in the 00:04:04.640 |
hope of including other people in it. I'm gonna say that again because that is an 00:04:09.880 |
absolutely crucial ethical sentence for me. The biblical duty to love, that is the 00:04:18.320 |
very meaning of love, always includes gladness in God that overflows in the 00:04:27.200 |
act, the behaviors of love, in the hope of including others in it. That is, in our 00:04:37.480 |
gladness in God. I get that definition of love from 2nd Corinthians 8 verse 2 00:04:46.400 |
and 9 verse 7. Here's what it says, "In a severe test of affliction there," that is 00:04:54.960 |
the Macedonians, "abundance of joy and their extreme poverty overflowed in a 00:05:03.440 |
wealth of generosity," giving, loving, "on their part." Notice carefully, the subject 00:05:12.080 |
of the verb "overflowed" is joy. "Their abundance of joy overflowed in generosity." 00:05:23.280 |
In other words, love was the overflow of joy in God—you can go back to verse 1 to 00:05:30.720 |
see that—joy in God, in God's grace being poured out on them, that aimed to bless 00:05:36.800 |
others and thus include others in that joy. That's what love does always. And 00:05:43.920 |
notice also there were two huge obstacles standing in the way of this 00:05:50.440 |
generosity—a severe test of affliction and extreme poverty. In other words, it was 00:05:57.960 |
very costly—you might even say painful—for Christians to show generosity 00:06:06.000 |
when they themselves were hurting and poverty-stricken. If there ever was a 00:06:11.680 |
time when a person might say, "Surely all that is expected of us here is dutiful 00:06:18.280 |
deeds, not heartfelt joy," this was that time. But in fact, what 00:06:25.920 |
marked these deeds of generosity as love was the abundance of joy in God that was 00:06:32.960 |
overflowing in love in the hopes that others would be included in that joy. Now 00:06:41.280 |
we know we're on the right track here because in chapter 9 verse 7 of 2nd 00:06:46.560 |
Corinthians, just a chapter later, Paul makes it a principle. He takes this 00:06:51.520 |
behavior and he makes it a principle. He says, "Each one must give as he has 00:06:58.880 |
decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion." That's another way of 00:07:04.640 |
saying mere willpower duty. "For God loves a cheerful giver." Now that's the clearest 00:07:15.240 |
statement—that doing good things for people generously without any delight in 00:07:23.040 |
the doing is only half our duty. So let me restate Jacqueline's question the way 00:07:32.960 |
I would ask it because there's a real problem. There's a real problem she sees. 00:07:37.080 |
She's right. She's right to see the problem and I'm just complaining about 00:07:41.720 |
the way it was asked. And I hope something really important is being seen. 00:07:46.040 |
Here's the way I would ask the question for John Piper. What does a Christian do 00:07:51.640 |
when he is confronted with the opportunity of a helpful good deed that 00:07:57.680 |
he doesn't feel like doing? That's the issue. Because that's real life. Perfect 00:08:07.000 |
love to God will always delight perfectly in doing God's will. But until 00:08:14.400 |
we reach perfection, which none of us does in this life, we are an embattled 00:08:21.280 |
people. Satan and sin corrupt our will so that we feel disinclinations to do the 00:08:31.040 |
loving thing. And that's reality. And this is why Jesus said, "Whoever would come 00:08:37.480 |
after me must deny himself." In this fallen world where sin and Satan disincline us 00:08:47.360 |
to love, self-denial will always be a part of the duty of love. So how does 00:08:55.800 |
this work in the moment when there is an opportunity to do good and we 00:09:03.080 |
don't feel like doing good? And here's the difference between... I'm going to give 00:09:09.160 |
you two options to do here. And people line up on these two options. I mean most 00:09:13.520 |
line up on the first one, I'm afraid. The difference between a Christian 00:09:18.480 |
hedonist, my understanding of our duty at that moment when we don't feel like 00:09:24.360 |
doing the good we ought to do, and those who think emotions don't count. 00:09:29.480 |
They're marginal. They're not essential at that moment. That group 00:09:34.880 |
says, "Just do it. Just do it. Do the right thing because it's the right thing." All 00:09:41.080 |
the while ignoring the biblical teaching that doing it cheerfully is part of the 00:09:46.720 |
right thing at that moment. You can't just say, "Do it" as though it were your whole 00:09:52.600 |
duty. It's not. It's half your duty. But the Christian hedonist, therefore, does 00:09:59.440 |
four crucial things at this moment. Because I'm admitting John Piper, the 00:10:05.160 |
imperfect, fallen, selfish Christian hedonist doesn't always want love, delight 00:10:12.840 |
to do what he ought to do. So here's here are the four things we ought to do. 00:10:16.480 |
Number one, admit honestly to God and to yourself you don't feel like doing the 00:10:22.320 |
good thing. Admit it. Number two, confess this to God as sin and tell him that 00:10:30.020 |
you're sorry for your heart not being more loving. Three, ask God in that 00:10:38.280 |
moment to restore the joy, the fullest joy of your salvation and an overflowing 00:10:45.280 |
gladness in grace that can be shared with other people. Ask him to restore 00:10:52.240 |
your joy. And four, now go ahead and act. Do that good behavior. Do that half of 00:11:01.840 |
your duty. Do the good deed, hoping, expecting, believing. You've asked, you've 00:11:10.000 |
prayed that in it, in it, joy will be awakened and you will actually, before 00:11:18.000 |
you're done, be delighting in the love before you're even finished. The loving 00:11:24.440 |
behavior, now you're glad you're doing it. I, Tony, I have seen this happen in my 00:11:30.560 |
life as a pastor over the years again and again and again. I would be, I would 00:11:37.980 |
be on my way to the hospital when I didn't feel like it. And some saint is in 00:11:43.040 |
trouble and I repent to God. God, I wish, I wish I had more compassion. I wish I 00:11:50.560 |
felt more affection. I wish you were more fully in charge of my heart right now. 00:11:56.160 |
Please restore to me the joy of loving my people. And how many times have I 00:12:03.360 |
walked into that room and either before I get to the bed or as I put my hand on 00:12:08.200 |
some dear saint's arm, God awakens gladness in being there. Gladness in 00:12:16.760 |
being able to share the word. Gladness in being an instrument of their hope. Gladness 00:12:21.600 |
in hoping that some of my gladness in the Lord would sustain them in their 00:12:25.960 |
trial. So my answer to Jacqueline's question is that the duty of love always 00:12:32.360 |
includes more than willpower behavior. It includes the gladness in God that 00:12:38.160 |
overflows in the hope of including others in it. When the behavior and the 00:12:43.560 |
gladness are both there, the duty is being performed. And when the gladness 00:12:48.280 |
is not there and we confess it and repent and pray for forgiveness and act 00:12:56.360 |
in hope that God will restore it, that too is our duty. Yeah, so helpful and 00:13:02.440 |
carefully nuanced. Thank you, Pastor John. Well, we're gonna break for the weekend 00:13:05.800 |
and return on Monday to hear from a listener who wants to know, "What are we 00:13:08.560 |
supposed to do with the verses in the Bible to talk about God regretting 00:13:11.560 |
things and repenting of things?" Oh, such a great question, and that is next. If you 00:13:17.080 |
missed any episodes from the week, catch up this weekend at our online home at 00:13:21.160 |
DesiringGod.org/AskPastorJohn. I'm your host, Tony Reiki. We'll see you on