Living Simply and Chasing Joy ft. Great Aunt Nancy // Michael Porter Jr.
Chapters
0:022:58 How Long Did It Take To See the Letters
23:44 The Audible Voice of God
27:5 Receiving God's Love
36:16 Christianity and Catholicism
47:20 When Did You Really Accept Christ in Your Heart
00:00:00.000 | So before we get started, I just wanted to tell you, like, I, one of the reasons that
00:00:12.600 | I wanted you on here is because I admire you so much and like, just the way you live your
00:00:16.280 | life and everything, it just, like, I love you so much.
00:00:19.580 | I tell people all the time, like, if there was one person I could have them meet, it'd
00:00:23.440 | be you, like, and I love you and so I'm happy that you're here.
00:00:28.920 | The first thing that I wanted to ask you about was about joy, like, it's something I feel
00:00:32.800 | like you purposely live with and you are always joyful, I've never been around you when you're
00:00:38.840 | not bringing joy and good energy into a room, so I just wanted to ask you about that and
00:00:43.800 | like, how did that become such a, like, a natural part of you?
00:00:49.200 | I can remember, and this is, it's not my original, but I read someplace, or my, I guess it was
00:00:57.400 | my daughter-in-law sent me a medal and it had, at the top they had Jesus, and in the
00:01:04.360 | middle they had a group of people, and then at the bottom it had one person, and it spelled
00:01:11.040 | out joy, Jesus first, everybody else second, others, J-O, and why put yourself last, and
00:01:19.440 | that is, in all my years of experience, that's the joy and that's the recipe for joy.
00:01:26.120 | Yeah, no, that's amazing, it's so crazy to me because it's like, in our culture nowadays,
00:01:33.720 | the world teaches that the recipe for happiness, and happiness and joy are different, and I'll
00:01:38.000 | get into that in a second, but they teach if you want to be happy that you just have
00:01:41.600 | to, like, search for your own happiness and do what makes you happy, and it's, and I think
00:01:47.080 | people sometimes follow that, and then they realize, like, when they're only thinking
00:01:50.680 | about themselves, then it's impossible to find happiness, but when you can, like you
00:01:55.840 | said, think about Jesus first, and then others, and then yourself last, that's the real, that's
00:02:01.040 | the real recipe for joy, but I think it's so opposite of what the world teaches nowadays,
00:02:05.760 | you know what I mean?
00:02:07.160 | For sure, especially the younger generations, for sure.
00:02:12.440 | So, another thing that I wanted to ask you about is, like, just your simplicity with
00:02:17.840 | life, like, ever since I've known you, obviously, you've been in this house a long time and
00:02:22.840 | everything, but you've been here in the same house, you haven't really bought a ton
00:02:26.080 | of new things, you just got an iPhone, and now I can text you, but, like, how did you
00:02:34.080 | adapt kind of that simplistic view to life, and how do material possessions, like, not
00:02:41.480 | mean much to you, or at least it seemed from the outside like they don't?
00:02:44.840 | All right, my motto is, and I have a sign downstairs, is live simply, and I look at
00:02:50.640 | it all the time, but I never, and you know what, Michael?
00:02:56.480 | I don't feel like, I mean, I feel like I have so much.
00:03:00.760 | I mean, I have a home, I have financial security, I can buy groceries, and I have running shoes,
00:03:10.080 | I have gym equipment, I have, I don't need much, and I just never have, but I have so
00:03:18.400 | much more than I have had as a child.
00:03:22.000 | I mean, as a child, we didn't have that much, and I feel that to be able to pay your bills
00:03:28.080 | is huge, to have electricity and air conditioning, there's, honestly, truly, I don't think I
00:03:34.520 | ever go grocery shopping without saying, "Thank you, Lord, for the money," because I know
00:03:38.240 | I'm managing His money, and I pray that I use it the right way, and here's something,
00:03:46.120 | and you've heard it before, I think God makes us all where there's a piece of puzzle that
00:03:51.880 | only God can fulfill, and if you try to put possessions in there, and if you try to put
00:03:57.760 | any relationships, anything in that piece that is God, because He made us to be in His
00:04:03.360 | image and to be His child, you'll never be completely joyful.
00:04:09.100 | First you feel that part, and then everything else falls into place.
00:04:12.360 | Yeah, and my experience, you know, being in the NBA, having, you know, some money now,
00:04:17.880 | and being around all these people with money, it's like, all these guys, and it just gets,
00:04:23.960 | you get caught up in a cycle, but they think, "Oh, the next car that I get, the next, you
00:04:28.400 | know, the next house I get, the next piece of jewelry I get, that'll make me happy,"
00:04:32.160 | and when you constantly get in that cycle, it's like, and you constantly are getting
00:04:35.660 | these new things, and you realize that that isn't gonna make you happy, then a lot of
00:04:40.480 | guys end up depressed, and that's why I think, you know, some of the most famous people,
00:04:45.120 | some of the people that have the most money and the most material possessions, they end
00:04:49.340 | up the least happy, because their whole life, they thought that these possessions would
00:04:55.360 | make them happy, and that was their whole goal, was to get famous and get money and
00:04:59.480 | buy all these things, and now they're not happy, and even for me, like, we kind of grew
00:05:05.040 | up where we didn't have a lot of money, but my mom and dad made it seem like we had everything
00:05:10.920 | we needed, and we were so happy, and even me, you know, being in the NBA now, and having
00:05:15.640 | money, like, I can even get caught up in just thinking that buying stuff will make me happy,
00:05:21.360 | but you, I mean, it's just so crazy, because people don't learn from, like, celebrities
00:05:26.960 | or famous athletes or whatever, they don't learn from their mistakes, and they don't
00:05:30.560 | see that these people that can get anything sometimes are the most unhappy people, you
00:05:36.320 | know what I mean, and it's really sad.
00:05:39.240 | - People who have lots of things that, I mean, they're not the ones I wanna be like, but
00:05:45.400 | those who live a more simple life and do it the right way, God's way, they're the ones
00:05:52.960 | I think, wow, they're my icons, but I do understand what you're saying about the people that you
00:06:02.240 | are with it, they have that mindset, it's easy to go that way.
00:06:05.720 | - Yeah, I've had to honestly struggle, like, with that at times, just in my free time,
00:06:11.360 | who do I hang out with, who do I spend time with, because it's something that when you're
00:06:15.040 | around that all the time, you can kind of get, you can kind of start to, like, mold
00:06:20.880 | into that in a way if you're not really, really careful, and for me, I've just had to be really
00:06:25.120 | careful about that and just make sure that my free time, I'm spending time around people
00:06:29.700 | who see it like you and see it and are so joyful, but it's like, it's not because of
00:06:37.200 | the things they have, and I mean, you see it even, like, overseas, like, America is
00:06:42.080 | so spoiled compared to most countries, but then you go overseas and you see these kids
00:06:47.040 | who have nothing, but they're running around with their shirts off all day, and they look
00:06:51.520 | like they're having the most fun ever, I mean, Sierra tells me stories all the time about
00:06:55.760 | how she goes to these different places and spends time with these kids and they're just
00:06:59.360 | so joyful.
00:07:00.360 | - That's beautiful.
00:07:01.360 | - You know what I mean?
00:07:02.360 | - That's so beautiful.
00:07:03.360 | - Yeah.
00:07:04.360 | - Yeah.
00:07:05.360 | We get caught up in the world, but it's easy not to get caught up in the world 'cause most
00:07:10.360 | of my friends are very similar in their mindset.
00:07:15.440 | They're financially okay 'cause they can take care of their bills, but we know, but life
00:07:21.000 | experience teaches you, it's not things, it's relationships with the Lord and with your
00:07:27.280 | family.
00:07:28.280 | - Do you think that that came with time for you, like, did you ever struggle with wanting
00:07:34.340 | stuff and thinking stuff would make you happy, or did you realize that at a really young
00:07:37.720 | age?
00:07:38.720 | 'Cause I feel like a lot of people, it's kind of trial and error, like, they try to get
00:07:42.760 | all these things, but then they finally realize, "Oh, this stuff isn't gonna make me happy.
00:07:46.360 | I need to turn somewhere else for happiness."
00:07:48.320 | And sometimes that leads people to Jesus, sometimes it doesn't, but for you, what was
00:07:52.720 | it like?
00:07:53.720 | - Okay, honestly, truly, I'm thinking it went right back to when I was a kid.
00:08:00.440 | We always had shelter, we always had food, and we always had parents that loved us and
00:08:04.040 | a grandma upstairs that loved us.
00:08:08.040 | I just never, all I remember, bill collectors coming to get money at home and they would
00:08:17.220 | send me to the door and say, "My dad's not home," even if he was home, 'cause they didn't
00:08:20.680 | have the money.
00:08:22.360 | I think I was probably seven when I said to myself, "Self, I will never have to send a
00:08:29.200 | bill collector away.
00:08:30.840 | I will be careful, frugal.
00:08:34.120 | I don't want a lot of money, but I do appreciate money to take care of my needs."
00:08:40.880 | I became a teacher and because I wanted to be a teacher, not about money, I married Fred.
00:08:49.240 | He was just getting out of the service and I married him, not because of money, but because
00:08:55.180 | he loved the Lord and I wanted him for the father of my children.
00:09:00.860 | But I did know that before we got married, he had to have a job 'cause I did not want
00:09:05.120 | to repeat not having stability, 'cause that's really important to me.
00:09:10.920 | I'm just being smart with what you do have and I know, if we run out of food on Sunday,
00:09:19.320 | I don't go shopping 'til Tuesday, then we do without and I think it's good to do without.
00:09:25.120 | I love to be without something and just say, "Oh yeah, tomorrow we're gonna get peanut
00:09:29.440 | butter," and not that I couldn't go any day and get more, but I like doing without.
00:09:34.640 | I think it's good for me.
00:09:38.360 | I've always said, and this might be really weird of me to say, but I've always said,
00:09:44.120 | "I want to spend at least some part of my life where I'm living off of barely any money
00:09:50.000 | and I'm experiencing what ... I've always wanted to try that."
00:09:54.960 | I'm not saying live on the street and be homeless, but close to it, I want to live off a tiny
00:10:00.600 | bit of money to see what it was like and just really experiencing that for myself, 'cause
00:10:06.880 | especially in Denver, you see all these homeless people and I just have always wondered what
00:10:11.600 | it felt like to, like I said, not live homeless, but live with a very little amount of means.
00:10:18.960 | So I might try that.
00:10:19.960 | It probably obviously wouldn't be sometime when I'm in the league, but it might be after.
00:10:26.040 | That would be a great challenge.
00:10:27.920 | Go someplace and live on, let's say, just live on $3,000 a month, and that's a lot.
00:10:35.380 | The homeless people don't have that.
00:10:37.240 | But where you had to say, "No, I've already ... No, can't have that one, nope."
00:10:43.580 | I love living that way.
00:10:45.640 | I love not wasting money.
00:10:49.320 | I can give money away, but I cannot waste it.
00:10:52.320 | Does that make sense?
00:10:53.320 | Right.
00:10:54.320 | Yeah.
00:10:55.320 | I'm kind of the same way, 'cause I think a lot of people also who did grow up with nothing,
00:11:00.320 | but now at least being around some of the guys I'm around who now have all this money,
00:11:06.040 | they get so used to having money.
00:11:08.920 | It takes a while when you first get into the NBA or whatever, and then you first get that
00:11:13.060 | money, it's a shock, and you're kind of like so grateful, but after a while, you see guys
00:11:17.600 | just get so used to that lifestyle that now they're not even grateful anymore.
00:11:21.120 | I think that if you ... That's kind of why I want to do it in a way.
00:11:25.640 | If you were to go away from that lifestyle for a little bit and then come back and have
00:11:30.880 | money and stuff, you'd just be grateful all over again.
00:11:33.400 | I think being grateful is one of the top ways you can be happy.
00:11:37.680 | I think so too.
00:11:39.360 | I think so too.
00:11:40.360 | A joyful heart.
00:11:41.360 | Yeah.
00:11:42.360 | And then everything seems fine.
00:11:43.360 | Even in bad times, if you're thankful, it turns it around, 'cause that's a great prayer
00:11:49.440 | right there.
00:11:50.440 | Yeah.
00:11:51.440 | I was watching a sermon actually about that the other day, and it just talked about when
00:11:55.640 | you are going through bad times, being grateful ... You don't have to try to will yourself
00:12:00.400 | to be grateful, but if you just say thank you to God and to other people for everything
00:12:04.680 | that you are thankful for, that's a remedy for joy when you are ... 'Cause no one can
00:12:10.680 | be happy all the time, but when you are down and you think like that and you just say thank
00:12:15.280 | you, I feel like that can get you out of that entitled attitude.
00:12:19.880 | Yeah.
00:12:20.880 | Right where you're sitting, usually I have my gratitude journal, and I keep a running
00:12:25.320 | thank you, Lord, and when you leave, I will put your name in there and Sarah's name because
00:12:33.160 | I love counting my blessings.
00:12:36.040 | I heard another explanation, 'cause it's hard to be thankful for when you get a bad diagnosis
00:12:43.480 | or something's happening with one of your kids.
00:12:47.480 | And it said something about we give thanks in all things.
00:12:50.840 | Well, we can give thanks because the Lord's gonna go through it with us, and sometimes
00:12:56.560 | that's what you say, "Lord, I don't understand it, but thank you that you're gonna go through
00:13:00.560 | it."
00:13:01.560 | Yeah.
00:13:02.560 | And there's your thankful gratitude heart.
00:13:04.560 | Yeah.
00:13:05.560 | Yeah.
00:13:06.560 | Talk about that a little bit.
00:13:07.560 | Like when you were going through your cancer and chemo and stuff, how in the world ... 'Cause
00:13:12.400 | whenever I talk to you on the phone, you seem so fine.
00:13:15.480 | How did you keep that just upbeat attitude, and I know inside you probably weren't experiencing
00:13:21.360 | happiness all the time, but how did you keep that gratefulness and that joy and continue
00:13:26.880 | to talk to God through it and all that?
00:13:28.840 | How did you keep that mentality?
00:13:31.440 | Well, number one, I think you might have heard from your parents.
00:13:37.280 | This third time, I finished my third time, and I just signed people up to be on my Positive
00:13:45.560 | Energy Bus.
00:13:47.080 | There's a book called The Positive Energy Bus.
00:13:50.080 | You need to read it.
00:13:51.080 | It is so powerful.
00:13:52.080 | So this time I took people along on my journey, and they were powerful prayer people.
00:13:59.640 | And so instead of being sad for me, they would say ... When they got kind of sad, I went,
00:14:04.800 | "Thank you for being in my positive."
00:14:06.520 | Then it turned their frame of mind around to be positive.
00:14:10.740 | So surround yourself with positive people, prayer.
00:14:15.440 | I look back, Michael, 2011 when it started, I can hardly remember it.
00:14:21.400 | You know that footprints in the sand where Jesus picks you up and you only see one footprint?
00:14:26.280 | He's carried me through all my hardships.
00:14:29.160 | I mean, you look back and you go, "Well, that wasn't bad because He carries you."
00:14:33.480 | I can promise you that's true.
00:14:37.400 | I don't know if I have to go through it again because it's one that keeps coming back, but
00:14:42.080 | I do know I'm going to hire all my people on my Positive Energy Bus, and I know I've
00:14:48.360 | got all your signatures.
00:14:51.680 | And I have hundreds of people that when they need something, I'm on their bus.
00:14:57.600 | I just love going through life together with people, and as you know, there are hard times,
00:15:05.400 | but when I look back, it doesn't seem that hard, but I don't want to have to do it again.
00:15:09.760 | But if I have to do it again, I'll hire people on my Positive Energy Bus.
00:15:14.800 | Yeah, if anybody can ...
00:15:16.560 | I remember you came to see me one time.
00:15:18.440 | I remember that, too.
00:15:19.440 | Yeah.
00:15:20.440 | I think we played cards.
00:15:21.440 | Yeah.
00:15:22.440 | Yeah, that's crazy to me.
00:15:24.640 | I think, so you would rather have people when you're going through tough stuff just bring
00:15:30.080 | positivity and like ... Because sometimes, I think, some people are looking for people
00:15:35.480 | to kind of like console them and like empathize with them in kind of a sad way when they're
00:15:41.720 | going through sad things, but you would rather just have a bunch of people that are just
00:15:45.760 | lifting you up positively throughout the whole process.
00:15:48.560 | Well, I mean, because if they're my friends, you know that they're sad that it's going
00:15:52.560 | through, but they also know it gives me strength if they go, "Okay, we can do it," instead
00:15:58.000 | of going, "Oh, honey, I don't want you to go through it," and then that makes me go,
00:16:02.000 | "But I have to, so let's do it."
00:16:05.200 | And here's another thing, Michael, and I pray I can always, because I don't know what's
00:16:09.240 | ahead.
00:16:10.240 | And times might get really hard with stuff, but I just believe in not wasting a day.
00:16:17.200 | I mean, if every day ... There's a week after a chemo that I just kind of wasn't ... I had
00:16:24.120 | to go running every day because I had to fight it kind of, but probably I ran in ... The
00:16:29.800 | house has never changed.
00:16:30.800 | I think I was going that slow, but I determined to keep exercising and to do everything in
00:16:37.200 | my power to keep strong because every day is so powerful.
00:16:42.000 | I don't want to waste a day because even through this COVID stuff, you know, I have been walking
00:16:48.380 | with friends socially distance.
00:16:49.880 | I've been doing outdoor things because I think every day is such a gift, and I don't want
00:16:56.360 | to lose that day.
00:16:58.360 | Right.
00:16:59.360 | Does that make sense?
00:17:00.360 | No, that's a big time.
00:17:01.360 | So I want to talk about your planks first.
00:17:03.440 | Okay, I already did.
00:17:04.440 | I hope you're not going to ask me to do it.
00:17:05.440 | I thought, "I'm going to do it before he gets here, he's going to ask me."
00:17:11.160 | Yes, Michael.
00:17:12.160 | On my planks.
00:17:13.160 | Are you still doing them every day?
00:17:16.160 | Absolutely.
00:17:17.160 | I will get out of bed at night if I forgot.
00:17:19.600 | Two and a half minutes.
00:17:20.600 | Yeah.
00:17:21.600 | Two and a half minute plank every day.
00:17:23.400 | How many days straight do you think it's been?
00:17:26.880 | Four years.
00:17:27.880 | Four years.
00:17:28.880 | If I ever missed any, it would be probably on a trip.
00:17:33.440 | I couldn't find a spot in a hotel where I was in bed and I didn't remember if I didn't
00:17:38.360 | remember it, but I probably would double it up the next day because I'm just determined.
00:17:43.760 | And don't ask me why, but it's ... I love ... You're on my planking chart.
00:17:48.240 | Yeah, I did.
00:17:49.240 | But two and a half minutes was so hard for me when we did it over at my house.
00:17:55.360 | That was so hard.
00:17:56.360 | Your mom did four.
00:17:57.360 | You made it look so easy.
00:17:58.360 | Well, no, but I have a smaller body.
00:18:00.680 | Still, I'm a professional athlete and you ...
00:18:04.040 | Okay, but you know what?
00:18:06.320 | It never gets easier.
00:18:07.920 | Really?
00:18:08.920 | So I do it right here and I'll go, "Alexa, set the timer for two and a half minutes."
00:18:13.720 | And then I take my devotional.
00:18:15.960 | Fred will sit here and I'll do my devotional, and then he'll look up the scripture.
00:18:20.400 | And then I'll go, "Alexa, how many minutes left?"
00:18:23.600 | And then when it goes off, I go, "All right."
00:18:25.720 | Wait, so Fred doesn't do it with you?
00:18:27.840 | Fred is not one bit interested in planks.
00:18:30.860 | Who is?
00:18:31.860 | Yeah.
00:18:32.860 | So who do you jog with then?
00:18:33.860 | Who do you do that with?
00:18:35.520 | Actually ... Okay, so tell me something.
00:18:37.880 | Yeah.
00:18:38.880 | What game did you play at Thanksgiving with your family?
00:18:42.600 | We played ... It's called "Doo-Doo and Your Neighbor."
00:18:45.600 | Okay, I grew up on that one.
00:18:48.040 | You know how to play it?
00:18:49.040 | Oh, my gosh.
00:18:50.040 | It's like whoever has a ...
00:18:51.040 | It was your mom's favorite game.
00:18:52.040 | We played it when we were kids.
00:18:53.040 | Yeah, it's so fun.
00:18:54.040 | Yeah.
00:18:55.040 | But Brie won, so we all played with $15, so she won a $150.
00:18:59.360 | Okay, now stop it on the $15.
00:19:01.720 | We played for three nickels.
00:19:03.720 | I could not do a dollar.
00:19:05.720 | My daughter wanted to do the $15.
00:19:08.260 | So we did like three chips.
00:19:09.920 | Each chip meant $5, so Brie ...
00:19:11.560 | But did people have their own money or ...
00:19:13.000 | Yeah, everybody had their own.
00:19:14.000 | Because half the time when they come to my house, I have to give them their nickels.
00:19:17.520 | Yeah, everybody had their own money.
00:19:19.240 | Okay, here's a wonderful family.
00:19:21.200 | Look at how they decorate.
00:19:23.320 | Whoa.
00:19:24.320 | And here ... Okay, over here, I wish he was out.
00:19:28.760 | He's a fireman, and he trains rescue dogs.
00:19:31.600 | Oh, yeah.
00:19:32.600 | Really?
00:19:33.600 | Yeah.
00:19:34.600 | Yeah.
00:19:35.600 | He's a really nice guy.
00:19:36.600 | So you know all these people pretty good?
00:19:39.520 | Well, since COVID, I've been working this neighborhood.
00:19:45.160 | I don't know all, but if they were out, I would say, "Hey, what's your name?
00:19:49.760 | What's your first name?"
00:19:51.440 | Yeah.
00:19:52.440 | Yeah, because honestly, truly, Michael, I pray for these neighbors every single day.
00:19:57.280 | All of them?
00:19:58.280 | Yep.
00:19:59.280 | I don't know them all, but I have gotten more.
00:20:02.440 | Come on.
00:20:03.440 | Come on.
00:20:04.440 | Come on.
00:20:05.440 | I got tired.
00:20:06.440 | Oh, you did not.
00:20:07.440 | Yeah, I did.
00:20:08.440 | You don't get tired.
00:20:09.440 | You're athletic.
00:20:10.440 | Nice and easy.
00:20:11.440 | I'm not fast, but I could go forever.
00:20:12.440 | How long could you go?
00:20:13.440 | Well, my furthest is 13 miles, a half marathon, but now, I just do three Ks, and when people
00:20:14.440 | pass me, I'll go, "Way to go."
00:20:15.440 | Who's this guy?
00:20:16.440 | I don't know.
00:20:17.440 | I'm sure he's nice.
00:20:18.440 | I know his wife.
00:20:19.440 | Oh, really?
00:20:20.440 | Yeah.
00:20:21.440 | Oh, really?
00:20:22.440 | Yeah.
00:20:23.440 | seeing him in the neighborhood.
00:20:44.080 | I haven't seen this.
00:20:45.080 | Yeah.
00:20:46.080 | He lives over there.
00:20:47.080 | Yeah.
00:20:48.080 | He's a professor, I believe.
00:20:49.080 | Yeah.
00:20:50.080 | What's up, man?
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