Football, Chickens, and Fatherhood feat. Von Miller // Michael Porter Jr.
Chapters
0:08:2 What Makes You a Great Dad
8:9 What Makes You a Bad Dad
10:41 Be Harder To Go from the Nfl to the Nba or from the Nba to the Nfl
14:25 Acl
23:21 Global Warming
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00:00:02.580 | - Yes sir, here with another episode of Curious Mike.
00:00:11.840 | Today we got the one and only Vaughn Miller with me.
00:00:14.040 | - Yeah boy.
00:00:15.500 | - Appreciate you being on my guy.
00:00:16.920 | - Yeah, appreciate you, huh?
00:00:18.000 | - You already know.
00:00:18.840 | So we gonna start off in the football space.
00:00:22.100 | Obviously that's where everybody know you from,
00:00:25.800 | but like growing up,
00:00:27.080 | football is a lot different than basketball.
00:00:29.000 | Like you gotta be, like it's a lot more of a physical sport
00:00:32.760 | and then you play the most physical position.
00:00:34.480 | - Yeah, it's one of them.
00:00:35.300 | You know, I wouldn't say it's the,
00:00:36.360 | I wouldn't say it's the most physical though.
00:00:37.920 | - Yeah, so like growing up though,
00:00:40.000 | like how did you, how did you get into that?
00:00:42.320 | And then how did you kind of,
00:00:44.520 | kind of get to where you have to be to play you at today?
00:00:46.400 | - Oh, bro, like my, my earliest memories
00:00:50.560 | of like my childhood, right?
00:00:52.400 | I remember like, you know, I was like two years old
00:00:55.680 | and I got in like this little pot
00:00:57.800 | in my mom's kitchen, right?
00:00:59.040 | It's like this little pot.
00:01:00.240 | And I think that, I think that memory is like reinforced
00:01:02.080 | because I got like pictures that my mom
00:01:03.960 | always showed me and stuff.
00:01:05.880 | But another memory that I had was like my dad,
00:01:08.000 | like me hearing my dad scream, like for the first time,
00:01:10.960 | like, and I ran in the room and I look in the room
00:01:14.000 | and he like yelling, like, not like in like,
00:01:16.800 | not like he crying or nothing, like he hurting or nothing,
00:01:20.040 | but it's like, he was like happy.
00:01:22.000 | He was like so happy.
00:01:22.840 | The Cowboys were on the game.
00:01:24.600 | I mean, the Cowboys on the TV and they had just scored
00:01:28.160 | or something, he was like going crazy.
00:01:29.680 | And I just remember being like a little kid
00:01:31.320 | and seeing my daddy like reacting this way.
00:01:33.880 | And like, that's where it started.
00:01:35.680 | Like, I want to make my dad, like, I want to do that.
00:01:38.160 | Like, I want to, whatever they doing on TV,
00:01:40.240 | that's what I want.
00:01:41.080 | - That's crazy.
00:01:42.080 | Yeah, that's kind of, that's kind of how it was for me.
00:01:43.920 | Started early.
00:01:45.320 | My pops played hoop basketball
00:01:46.960 | and then he could put the ball in my hand, three years old.
00:01:49.760 | Just got rolling from there.
00:01:50.680 | You just find a passion for it.
00:01:51.880 | And then it just roll from there.
00:01:53.520 | But for you, so it was all that.
00:01:55.840 | And then you get to the, you go to college,
00:01:57.600 | get to the league, you know, you doing your thing,
00:02:00.480 | become one of the best pretty quick at your position.
00:02:03.160 | Then end up winning Super Bowl 50 MVP.
00:02:06.240 | Talk to me a little bit about that.
00:02:07.480 | Like when you got in the league and in the process
00:02:09.240 | to winning that and then that feeling.
00:02:11.320 | - Yeah, honestly, like at first, like I always felt like,
00:02:15.560 | you know, you just have like that belief in yourself.
00:02:17.360 | Like whatever you put your mind to, you're going to do it.
00:02:19.000 | I think we all like, you know, have those thoughts.
00:02:21.320 | But for me, I never thought that I would be like
00:02:26.320 | the number two pick or like fight for the Denver Broncos
00:02:29.520 | or like winning Super Bowl, do all this crazy stuff.
00:02:31.200 | I knew like deep down in my heart,
00:02:33.200 | like if I worked hard enough
00:02:34.480 | and I did all the right things and I went to sleep,
00:02:36.440 | you know, like all the stuff that you do, like as a kid,
00:02:38.720 | like you believe that you can make the,
00:02:40.400 | you believe that you can make the league.
00:02:42.240 | And I felt like that.
00:02:43.480 | And it just, it just start like playing Texas A&M,
00:02:48.200 | like my first two years.
00:02:49.800 | I was like, I was, I wasn't like, you know,
00:02:52.160 | all American, nothing crazy, nothing like that.
00:02:54.200 | But like my third year,
00:02:55.080 | they moved me to this outside linebacker,
00:02:57.560 | like rush position.
00:02:58.920 | And I just kind of like took off with it.
00:03:02.040 | At the same time I was at Texas A&M
00:03:04.560 | and I was taking easy classes.
00:03:06.040 | I mean, my GPA wasn't like, you know,
00:03:08.680 | my GPA wasn't like the best.
00:03:10.440 | So I had to like take like classes to like help out
00:03:12.760 | with my GPA.
00:03:13.600 | And one of those classes was meat production,
00:03:16.160 | one-on-one chickens, turkey and quail.
00:03:18.760 | So I took this class and it was an easy class.
00:03:21.000 | And I was like, it's like, bro, it's so easy.
00:03:23.640 | Like I don't even have to stay awake.
00:03:24.720 | So I used to fall asleep in this class
00:03:26.240 | and my professor, Dr. Farnell, he used to wake me up.
00:03:29.480 | He used to wake me up and like, like making me go,
00:03:32.600 | like just make me like recite,
00:03:33.840 | like everything that we learned in the class today.
00:03:35.360 | In turn, it really made me like learn like the chicken,
00:03:40.000 | like business.
00:03:41.360 | And that was like my backup plan.
00:03:42.560 | It was weird.
00:03:43.400 | Like if I make it to the league, you know,
00:03:45.480 | I'm gonna use the money to start a chicken farm, man.
00:03:47.680 | - Yeah, and I was actually,
00:03:49.640 | I was gonna ask you about that later, the chicken farm.
00:03:52.960 | I mean, everybody know you for that off the field.
00:03:55.440 | How big is that like in your life and how did you,
00:03:58.120 | so you got into it just as a backup plan.
00:04:00.240 | - It was just, it was just one of the, I swear like, bro,
00:04:03.760 | you know, you take a lot of classes, bro.
00:04:05.040 | You never expect them, you know,
00:04:06.600 | you never expect them bitches to like stick like that.
00:04:08.800 | But like when I, when I was learning it
00:04:11.440 | and it takes an NM, I was like, bro,
00:04:13.480 | all I need is this amount of money and I can do it.
00:04:16.240 | You know, I damn near using like loans to do that stuff.
00:04:18.480 | Like if I like playing the league,
00:04:20.240 | I can use money to do it this way.
00:04:21.840 | And I just started researching.
00:04:23.560 | I hooked up with some fellow Aggies as well.
00:04:27.600 | And we started Green Pastures Chicken.
00:04:29.840 | It's like right outside of Elgin.
00:04:31.200 | It's doing well, you know.
00:04:32.360 | - Yeah, how big is that?
00:04:33.360 | Like as far as obviously you make your bread on the field,
00:04:36.320 | but is that just a passion or is it actually lucrative?
00:04:39.040 | - I mean, it's, it's, it's both, you know,
00:04:40.840 | you don't, you wouldn't do it.
00:04:41.800 | Like if it wasn't like, you know, like just selling shit.
00:04:45.240 | But it's, I mean, but it's, you know, it's, it's both,
00:04:47.800 | you know, it's something that I like,
00:04:49.960 | it's kind of like football for me off the field.
00:04:52.280 | Like I like had this vision and I just attacked it.
00:04:55.520 | And, you know, it just became, you know, what it is.
00:04:58.720 | We're not like Tyson or like Sanderson Farms
00:05:01.000 | or like Butterball like that, but that's my dream.
00:05:03.000 | You know, one day is to,
00:05:04.840 | is to create an operation like those guys.
00:05:06.880 | A pasture raised, a pasture raised,
00:05:09.760 | fully organic, humanely raised product.
00:05:11.880 | Cause I feel like that is the, that's the,
00:05:15.000 | that's the main certification on some of this stuff.
00:05:17.040 | Cause people want to know like where their food comes from.
00:05:19.440 | And I have a humanely raised product.
00:05:20.920 | - So you, so you take care of your,
00:05:22.560 | like you all about that as far as organic,
00:05:25.480 | raised the right way.
00:05:26.680 | - They, they only have one bad day.
00:05:28.160 | You know, every day is good.
00:05:29.240 | And then they just, they just have one.
00:05:31.200 | - You gotta plug me with some of the chicken.
00:05:32.520 | - Yeah, for sure, man.
00:05:33.360 | I'll send it to you.
00:05:34.200 | - Cause I, I was growing up,
00:05:35.640 | like I grew up vegetarian my whole life.
00:05:37.280 | Then I got to the league, I was too skinny.
00:05:38.880 | So they made me start eating some chicken and some salmon.
00:05:41.360 | So I only eat like the healthy chicken.
00:05:43.280 | So yeah, you definitely got to plug me then.
00:05:44.720 | - Yeah, bro. I got you, bro.
00:05:45.680 | You was vegetarian your whole life?
00:05:47.360 | - I grew up vegetarian all the way until I got to the NBA.
00:05:50.320 | - I thought it was like, I thought it was like a new thing,
00:05:52.520 | like vegetarian.
00:05:53.360 | - Nah, our parents, my mom, my mom and dad
00:05:55.760 | raised all of us that way.
00:05:56.720 | We was homeschooled, vegetarian, like all that.
00:06:00.240 | Like before it was a really,
00:06:01.400 | like it's more of a popular thing now.
00:06:02.840 | We were doing that.
00:06:04.240 | To eat healthy, you know this,
00:06:06.320 | you really got to have a chef
00:06:07.840 | or someone that's doing it for you.
00:06:09.640 | Cause like a lot of these restaurants
00:06:10.960 | that say they're healthy,
00:06:11.800 | they're really not that healthy.
00:06:12.800 | So we probably weren't doing it the best way,
00:06:15.000 | but we were, I mean, we was trying, we was vegetarian.
00:06:17.280 | - That's crazy, man.
00:06:18.120 | I mean, when you think about it, I just had a son
00:06:19.520 | and like I was doing like this study,
00:06:21.360 | like on what like kids eat,
00:06:23.040 | because I wanted Val to be just like the biggest,
00:06:26.120 | like, you know, strongest like baby ever.
00:06:28.760 | And you started doing your research
00:06:29.880 | and it's like the first year,
00:06:31.960 | the first year to like year and a half,
00:06:33.640 | like they breastfed, like that's it.
00:06:36.400 | You might supplement it with some other stuff,
00:06:38.640 | but they don't start off like wanting meat
00:06:41.600 | or like needing meat.
00:06:42.480 | And if you just, you know, stay in that lane,
00:06:44.520 | like I can see like how somebody could be vegetarian
00:06:47.440 | their whole life.
00:06:48.280 | - Yeah, you definitely got to do it the right way though.
00:06:50.080 | So yeah, you just mentioned your son.
00:06:52.480 | Talk about that.
00:06:54.960 | Is he like, how old is he?
00:06:56.160 | And then, cause we was going to talk about that too.
00:06:58.320 | You, has it changed your perspective at all
00:07:00.960 | on life and what you really prioritize or value?
00:07:03.880 | - You know, people always say that,
00:07:04.800 | but I think like, you know,
00:07:06.440 | I've been a dad for like a while now.
00:07:08.040 | Like I'm 11 years, you know,
00:07:10.720 | in the National Football League.
00:07:11.680 | So I got a shit load of sons everywhere.
00:07:13.880 | (laughing)
00:07:16.360 | No, no, but I just always, I'm an older brother,
00:07:19.520 | you know, and my dad and my mom,
00:07:23.640 | like they just been in my life since like day one.
00:07:26.600 | I had great examples on how to be like a father,
00:07:30.680 | I would say, like just kicking it with like my dad
00:07:32.600 | and like some of the stuff that he did with me.
00:07:34.440 | I was like, man, I can't wait to like, you know,
00:07:36.240 | do this with my son.
00:07:37.080 | Some of the, some of the things that I learned
00:07:38.680 | like from my dad, some of the advice that I got,
00:07:40.440 | like I always had him like in every single,
00:07:44.480 | which is like, you know,
00:07:45.480 | it's a true blessing that me thinking about my dad,
00:07:47.680 | but you know, just by having my dad like with me
00:07:51.680 | through like every single decision that I ever had,
00:07:54.400 | like to make in my life, you know,
00:07:55.960 | I always wanted to like have a son and do that same thing.
00:07:59.720 | I remember when I had him, I talked to him and I said,
00:08:01.560 | hey, like, so what makes you a great dad?
00:08:04.400 | Like he was like, it's so many,
00:08:05.800 | he said it's so many different things
00:08:06.880 | that make you a great dad.
00:08:08.360 | Okay, I was like, so what, what makes you a bad dad?
00:08:11.800 | He was like, it's just a few things
00:08:14.720 | that'll make you a bad dad.
00:08:16.120 | It's all type of ways that you can parent.
00:08:17.800 | It's all type of ways that you can, you know,
00:08:19.640 | be in your kid life.
00:08:20.720 | And you know, that's what I want to do.
00:08:22.080 | I want to play golf.
00:08:23.080 | You know, that's really the only thing
00:08:24.000 | that I'm gonna force on him.
00:08:24.840 | - Yeah.
00:08:25.680 | - Anything else, you know, I'm--
00:08:26.640 | - What'd he say though about being a bad dad?
00:08:28.280 | What's the ways you--
00:08:29.120 | - You know, like it's all different ways to be a bad dad.
00:08:31.400 | Like you can influence your son to do things.
00:08:32.920 | I feel like me, I just want to give the best in me
00:08:37.320 | because nobody's perfect.
00:08:38.440 | You know, I just want to give the best in me to my son
00:08:41.560 | and just let him create his own like, you know, lane.
00:08:46.560 | You know, but I'm excited about it.
00:08:49.080 | Like all the summer, like before he got here,
00:08:51.640 | I was working on his nursery.
00:08:52.640 | I was all on Pinterest, like just trying to find
00:08:55.160 | like little things.
00:08:56.000 | It was crazy.
00:08:57.000 | You know, you never use the word cute,
00:08:58.360 | but like when you got like a kid,
00:09:00.200 | like it's just the word that you use.
00:09:03.200 | It's just the word that like, you know,
00:09:05.040 | it's all over the place.
00:09:05.920 | And I got like some dope stuff for him in his nursery.
00:09:09.760 | I want it to be like a cowboy vibe.
00:09:11.320 | 'Cause I feel like Valor is like, you know,
00:09:12.960 | like a cowboy like type name.
00:09:15.840 | But you know, he's five weeks old, man.
00:09:18.120 | And I'm excited, man.
00:09:19.120 | Every single day he learned something new,
00:09:20.960 | something different.
00:09:22.000 | - That's dope.
00:09:22.840 | - Yeah.
00:09:23.660 | - That's dope.
00:09:24.500 | Yeah, you and your dad, like everybody see how close
00:09:26.080 | y'all are, joking around and everything.
00:09:29.000 | That's dope.
00:09:29.840 | That's how I am with my dad.
00:09:30.660 | Like he's one of my best friends.
00:09:32.160 | The relationship changes as you get older.
00:09:34.640 | Were y'all always close like that?
00:09:35.920 | Or kind of what, what made y'all get close like that?
00:09:39.240 | - You know, growing up, I thought my dad was like mean.
00:09:40.880 | I was like, "Damn, my daddy mean."
00:09:42.420 | (laughing)
00:09:43.480 | I got my little brother older.
00:09:45.320 | And I was like, "Damn, my daddy mean."
00:09:46.680 | Like, "Why he so strict?"
00:09:47.920 | Like, you know, like other kids doing this
00:09:50.360 | and like other kids like doing that.
00:09:52.520 | And you see like other people doing this.
00:09:54.600 | And it's not till like you get older that you like
00:09:56.440 | appreciate all the things that your dad like made you do.
00:09:59.320 | Like being a senior in high school and having to come in
00:10:02.520 | at like 12 and like, you know, having to curfew
00:10:05.600 | and like, you know, just learning like tough lessons
00:10:08.560 | growing up, like don't lie to 'em, don't do this.
00:10:12.080 | You know, getting whoopings and like just really
00:10:13.800 | just trying to figure it out.
00:10:14.720 | Like I really appreciate, you know, all that stuff
00:10:17.240 | that my dad like did for my dad and my mom.
00:10:19.420 | 'Cause my mom, she's a soldier too.
00:10:20.760 | My mom, she's never missed, you know, anything
00:10:23.280 | that I ever participated in from like track meet
00:10:26.400 | to my basketball games.
00:10:27.320 | I had hoop dreams at first.
00:10:28.520 | - You hooped?
00:10:29.360 | I was gonna ask you about that.
00:10:30.720 | I actually was gonna ask.
00:10:31.560 | - I had hoop dreams at first, but like,
00:10:32.800 | they didn't give me enough fouls.
00:10:33.920 | Like I was just, I was just too physical, bro.
00:10:37.280 | - My question for you was gonna be,
00:10:39.440 | is it, would you think it'd be harder to go
00:10:42.840 | from the NFL to the NBA or from the NBA to the NFL?
00:10:45.960 | No bias.
00:10:47.280 | - Man, it's two different body types, bro.
00:10:48.840 | Like if you get like the right body type, both can play.
00:10:52.840 | Like you gotta at least be like six, four, six, like five.
00:10:57.440 | You know, like I always think like Gronkowski
00:10:59.320 | could play like both.
00:11:00.360 | - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:11:01.200 | - You know, like Justin Simmons, like,
00:11:03.240 | I feel like he could play both.
00:11:04.200 | He could be like a point guard and a safety in the league.
00:11:05.960 | - Who's some hoopers that could play both?
00:11:07.280 | - I think LeBron James could definitely, right?
00:11:09.560 | LeBron could definitely play both.
00:11:11.040 | - Zion, probably.
00:11:11.880 | - I think Russell.
00:11:13.000 | Yeah, Zion, Russell, Westbrook, he could definitely play both.
00:11:16.720 | You know, like most of these point guards, like,
00:11:18.760 | I think, you know, like John Wall, he could play like both.
00:11:21.480 | Most of these point guards, they got like,
00:11:23.480 | you know, these aggressive mindsets.
00:11:25.040 | - Yeah.
00:11:25.880 | - You know, and then at the same time,
00:11:26.920 | not like being a great football player,
00:11:28.320 | like probably like being a great basketball player.
00:11:30.440 | It's not all about like just brute strength
00:11:32.880 | and like going crazy.
00:11:33.720 | Sometimes you gotta be, you gotta be smart
00:11:35.520 | and you gotta be able to like outwork your guy.
00:11:37.680 | So if you have like some of those things,
00:11:38.880 | which there's a lot of basketball players
00:11:40.240 | that you don't have that type of mindset,
00:11:42.080 | you could play both.
00:11:43.080 | - Right, so--
00:11:44.800 | - All you need is an arm, really, though,
00:11:46.040 | and you can play like, any body type can play quarterback.
00:11:48.960 | - Right.
00:11:49.800 | - You can be six, six.
00:11:50.640 | - Kicker or something.
00:11:51.480 | - Or kicker.
00:11:52.320 | No, you don't wanna be no kicker.
00:11:53.140 | I know some good kickers, though.
00:11:53.980 | Like Brandon McManus, that's my boy.
00:11:55.720 | You know, like, that's my favorite.
00:11:57.400 | That's my favorite kicker,
00:11:58.280 | but you don't wanna be no kicker.
00:11:59.320 | Brandon's different because he's 6'4", 210 pounds.
00:12:04.320 | He can dunk.
00:12:05.360 | He can play basketball.
00:12:06.600 | He can throw the ball.
00:12:07.440 | Like, he's fast.
00:12:08.480 | He's not too fast, but, you know, he's fast
00:12:11.120 | and he can, you know, he's smart.
00:12:12.400 | He can do all types of shit.
00:12:13.240 | So I think Brandon McManus could play both, too.
00:12:15.160 | - That's dope.
00:12:16.440 | - You think any football players could play both?
00:12:18.800 | Like, any mindsets?
00:12:19.800 | - Shoot, I don't know.
00:12:21.200 | 'Cause you see some football players step on the court.
00:12:23.520 | They look crazy.
00:12:24.360 | - That's crazy.
00:12:25.180 | That's how I am.
00:12:26.020 | That's me.
00:12:26.860 | - They look crazy, dog.
00:12:27.680 | Like, I would never play pickup with a football player
00:12:29.720 | 'cause they gonna hurt you.
00:12:30.720 | - That's me.
00:12:31.560 | It's just too, I'm just too fast, too fast.
00:12:34.040 | I think, you know, really, that was, like, younger.
00:12:36.980 | You know, I didn't, like, play it, like, from day one.
00:12:39.720 | Like, it was something that, like, in my school,
00:12:41.680 | in my high school, like, I had braids.
00:12:43.120 | Like, yeah, like cornrows.
00:12:44.480 | - Oh, for real?
00:12:45.320 | - Like, yeah, that was, like, my guy.
00:12:46.360 | Like, I wanted to be, like, me and my little brother.
00:12:48.200 | So, I wanted to, you know, be, like, AI.
00:12:51.080 | And I had braids, but it was a rule in my school district
00:12:55.060 | that if you had braids, you couldn't play basketball.
00:12:58.200 | So, it kind of, like, pushed my--
00:12:59.760 | - What?
00:13:00.600 | - It kind of pushed, like, my--
00:13:01.440 | I was playing street basketball the whole time,
00:13:02.960 | but it kind of pushed, like, my real, real, like,
00:13:04.760 | basketball development all the way to, like,
00:13:07.200 | my ninth grade year.
00:13:09.160 | - That's weird.
00:13:10.160 | I ain't never had that rule.
00:13:11.360 | - If it was cool, like, I could've played both, like,
00:13:13.840 | you know, since day one, and who knows
00:13:15.880 | what would happen.
00:13:16.720 | But, it ain't like that.
00:13:18.160 | - You ended up cool.
00:13:19.120 | - I ended up being Von Miller Chicken Farmer.
00:13:21.580 | - Man, so, recently, you, like, the last couple years,
00:13:26.040 | you obviously, we're getting back to it now,
00:13:27.920 | but you faced some adversity, you know?
00:13:29.560 | I know all about injuries, and you went through something
00:13:32.560 | similar over the last little bit.
00:13:34.880 | Talk about that.
00:13:36.080 | Like, how did it happen?
00:13:36.920 | How did you get hurt, and then what was your mindset,
00:13:38.640 | you know, through the rehab and getting back?
00:13:41.400 | - Yeah.
00:13:42.240 | - Are you, like, cautious at all now,
00:13:44.080 | or do you feel good?
00:13:46.520 | - Man, I just feel like injuries are just, like,
00:13:49.880 | part of the game.
00:13:51.040 | If you look at any great player in the history
00:13:55.160 | of any sport, you know, they had to overcome some injury
00:13:58.400 | at some point in time.
00:13:59.900 | We play a sport, like, our body's not designed
00:14:01.800 | to, like, run around and, like, dunk.
00:14:03.400 | Even though you get these guys like you that, like,
00:14:05.120 | can jump from the free throw line and dunk,
00:14:07.340 | well, like, our body's not, like, designed like that.
00:14:10.280 | So if you're moving fast and you can't really predict
00:14:14.240 | everything that's going on, like, you know,
00:14:15.760 | injuries happen.
00:14:16.600 | It's just really the way you respond.
00:14:18.360 | - Yeah.
00:14:19.200 | - You know, I've had three, like, big injuries.
00:14:22.220 | Really, my thumb, it wasn't that bad,
00:14:23.480 | but if you play football, like, not having your thumb
00:14:25.720 | is tough, but I had an ACL in 2013,
00:14:28.400 | and I tore my retinaculum in my, like,
00:14:32.960 | it holds down, like, the peroneal tendon,
00:14:34.440 | like, on your ankle.
00:14:35.680 | It wasn't like an Achilles or anything like that,
00:14:37.960 | but I still needed surgery,
00:14:39.720 | and I wasn't able to, like, get back.
00:14:41.440 | So it was a serious injury.
00:14:42.520 | It wasn't, like, a serious surgery,
00:14:43.920 | but it was, like, a serious injury.
00:14:45.720 | And really, your mindset, you really just,
00:14:48.280 | you gotta respond, bro.
00:14:49.280 | Like, I think what makes us great football players
00:14:52.260 | or great athletes or great basketball players
00:14:54.000 | is our ability to respond.
00:14:55.600 | You play against somebody that's, you know,
00:14:58.360 | that can move faster and dunk, you know, whatever.
00:15:00.720 | Like, you can figure it out,
00:15:01.920 | and you rely on your skill set,
00:15:03.880 | and that's the same thing.
00:15:05.280 | That's the same mindset that you have
00:15:06.960 | whenever you're going through the recovery process.
00:15:09.000 | - That's dope.
00:15:10.160 | Man, my last football question's for you.
00:15:13.060 | You gotta tell me your top three QBs,
00:15:15.800 | like, the ones you hate playing against,
00:15:18.280 | and then you gotta name your top five defenders
00:15:21.920 | right now in the league.
00:15:23.120 | - Top five QBs, I mean, like,
00:15:27.360 | right off the top, you gotta say, like, Tom Brady.
00:15:29.200 | Like, Tom Brady, you know,
00:15:30.320 | Patrick Mahomes, Peyton Manning.
00:15:32.280 | You know, you got Aaron Rodgers.
00:15:34.320 | You know, you got so many different quarterbacks
00:15:35.920 | that, you know, wanted to do great stuff.
00:15:37.800 | I love Dak Prescott as one of my favorite quarterbacks.
00:15:41.040 | But, you know, top quarterbacks right now,
00:15:44.200 | you gotta go with winning first.
00:15:45.360 | Like, you know, Tom Brady, you know,
00:15:47.880 | Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes.
00:15:50.540 | These guys, like, these guys win.
00:15:52.160 | - Yeah, they win.
00:15:53.000 | - So, those would be, like, you know,
00:15:54.800 | the top three quarterbacks that I've been,
00:15:56.840 | that I've played, like, all the time.
00:15:58.880 | I didn't play against Peyton,
00:16:00.000 | but I was around him every single day,
00:16:01.280 | and I saw the way he, you know, attacked defenses.
00:16:03.880 | I wouldn't want to play against him, but.
00:16:05.200 | - You know, it's just so crazy about that.
00:16:06.560 | I actually just talked to Peyton yesterday.
00:16:08.960 | He was up at the arena last night.
00:16:10.840 | - Yeah, that's cool.
00:16:11.760 | - Shooting with his kids,
00:16:12.580 | and I hollered at him for, like, 30 minutes,
00:16:14.640 | talking about, like, what made him different.
00:16:17.200 | Like, how did he separate himself
00:16:18.800 | as far as being one of the greats.
00:16:21.320 | So, that's crazy, 'cause he was cold.
00:16:23.160 | I grew up in Indianapolis.
00:16:24.280 | - Oh, yeah, that's dope, that's dope.
00:16:25.800 | Yeah, Peyton, yeah, Peyton, he,
00:16:28.080 | I was with him for four years, and, like,
00:16:30.280 | that's one of my favorite teammates,
00:16:31.560 | favorite players ever.
00:16:32.400 | I went to his Hall of Fame, like,
00:16:35.600 | his Hall of Fame ceremony,
00:16:38.120 | and I went to Chattanooga's Hall of Fame ceremony, too,
00:16:40.280 | so this is my second one,
00:16:41.800 | but this was my first, like, after-party
00:16:44.760 | at, like, the Hall of Fame,
00:16:46.000 | 'cause Coach Fangio let us stay, like, a whole day,
00:16:48.000 | and the next night out there.
00:16:50.120 | But, really, just being around Peyton
00:16:51.680 | and just seeing all the people that he's influenced,
00:16:54.080 | that, like, being at the party,
00:16:56.480 | like, seeing all these people
00:16:57.320 | that helped him become who he is,
00:16:59.080 | and everybody that was there to, like, see him
00:17:01.280 | and, like, support him, you know,
00:17:03.080 | go into the Hall of Fame, it was, like,
00:17:05.640 | it was incredible, man.
00:17:06.640 | Like, it definitely motivated me to, like,
00:17:08.960 | you know, want to do the same thing, like, for me,
00:17:11.000 | and it really, it helped me believe, like,
00:17:14.360 | you know, I saw Peyton Manning do it,
00:17:15.920 | like, every single day, and that's the type of player
00:17:17.960 | that you have to be to make it there, so.
00:17:19.600 | - Shoot, you on your way, fam.
00:17:21.120 | - It's great, man, I'm trying, man.
00:17:22.400 | I'm trying, man.
00:17:23.240 | It's 11 years in.
00:17:25.000 | To everybody, say, bro, I know you had a Vets come in
00:17:27.160 | and say, "Man, it go by fast."
00:17:28.280 | Like, it go by fast, it really does,
00:17:30.400 | and being, this is my 11th year in,
00:17:32.880 | I started playing golf, like, recently,
00:17:34.720 | and one of the sayings that we have in golf
00:17:37.200 | is don't forget to look up,
00:17:38.840 | 'cause you have some of these dope golf courses.
00:17:41.320 | It could be at Pebble Beach, like, Shadow Creek,
00:17:43.680 | you know, Colorado Golf Club here in Colorado is dope,
00:17:46.200 | and you kind of forget to, like, look up.
00:17:49.360 | You know, you so in the motion of, like,
00:17:51.360 | putting and driving, and, you know,
00:17:53.000 | you're upset about the hit before,
00:17:54.200 | you're happy about the hit before,
00:17:55.200 | that you're just really thinking about golf,
00:17:56.440 | and you don't really, you know, you forget to look up,
00:18:00.760 | and this being my 11th year, like, I'm looking up,
00:18:02.760 | like, being in Denver, you know,
00:18:04.760 | being able to be in a city like this,
00:18:06.720 | like, going to the Niggas game,
00:18:08.120 | you know, fucking with y'all,
00:18:09.360 | like, hunting and fishing and golfing and doing,
00:18:12.520 | and being able to do all the things that make Denver,
00:18:14.640 | you know, what it is, man, it's been amazing.
00:18:17.160 | - The balance, the balance, for sure.
00:18:19.840 | What year is this for you?
00:18:21.760 | This is your?
00:18:22.600 | - This is my third year.
00:18:23.440 | - This your third year?
00:18:24.280 | - This is my fourth year,
00:18:25.120 | no, this is my fourth year,
00:18:26.160 | but I was injured my first year, so.
00:18:28.280 | - You like Denver like that?
00:18:29.280 | I know, man.
00:18:30.120 | - Nah, Denver, perfect for me,
00:18:31.320 | 'cause I don't know about you,
00:18:32.160 | but I mean, I know you be, you like to get it in,
00:18:34.600 | but I like--
00:18:35.440 | - All right, what you doing?
00:18:36.280 | (laughs)
00:18:37.160 | - Well, I was at your Halloween party.
00:18:39.760 | I was up there, nah.
00:18:41.280 | But I love it 'cause it's, like, chill,
00:18:42.520 | like, you can have fun,
00:18:43.520 | but you can also chill if you want to.
00:18:46.160 | So that's why it's perfect for me.
00:18:47.840 | I'm about to move, though.
00:18:49.360 | I ain't got no security around here.
00:18:50.880 | - Yeah, it's--
00:18:51.720 | - Got robbed twice, boy.
00:18:52.560 | - Here?
00:18:53.380 | - I just got it in my garage, but--
00:18:55.340 | - Yeah, you gotta get, like, some get it, man.
00:18:56.820 | You gotta, when they know where you live, man,
00:18:58.740 | it'd be different, you know?
00:18:59.580 | - Yeah.
00:19:00.420 | So, but you're talking about that, like, looking up.
00:19:04.900 | I know, I know, obviously,
00:19:06.620 | you've influenced a lot of people football-wise.
00:19:08.740 | You know, a lot of kids, you're an inspiration.
00:19:11.100 | But outside of football, like, as you get older,
00:19:13.340 | you have a kid.
00:19:14.180 | What do you kind of view as your purpose in life?
00:19:16.580 | - You know, for him, I just wanna,
00:19:20.940 | I just wanna support him.
00:19:22.080 | Like, my dad supported me.
00:19:23.380 | My dad never made me, like, play football.
00:19:25.860 | My dad never made me, like, you know,
00:19:28.900 | really do anything but go to school
00:19:30.340 | and, like, do my homework
00:19:31.380 | and try to be the best student academically
00:19:33.620 | that I possibly can be.
00:19:34.580 | He never really made me or forced me to do anything.
00:19:37.540 | And I just wanna do the same thing for him.
00:19:40.260 | I just wanna support him.
00:19:41.500 | I wanna be his biggest support system
00:19:44.820 | in anything that he does.
00:19:45.900 | You know, he could be, you know, a candle maker.
00:19:48.020 | You know, I'll just support him in that.
00:19:49.780 | You know, if he wanted to do filming or acting,
00:19:52.280 | like, I just wanna support him in whatever he does,
00:19:55.080 | just like my dad did for me.
00:19:57.000 | - Yeah, that's dope.
00:19:58.240 | - I feel like that's one of my biggest purposes in life.
00:20:03.160 | You know, I just, you know, you wanna be a light.
00:20:05.200 | You know, you wanna be a light around people.
00:20:06.720 | You wanna influence people.
00:20:08.160 | You know, sometimes you get around people
00:20:09.240 | with different energies
00:20:10.080 | and you can just feel it, like, right off the top.
00:20:12.240 | You never wanna be that guy.
00:20:13.400 | I just wanna, you know, influence
00:20:14.920 | and, you know, be a light to everybody that I fuck with.
00:20:18.760 | - Shoot, I mean, everybody that's on here is like,
00:20:21.480 | it's 'cause I respect 'em and, you know,
00:20:23.640 | we've linked up a couple times, seen you a couple times,
00:20:25.760 | but everybody around here who I've talked to
00:20:28.120 | is always a man, Von's the dopest dude ever.
00:20:30.080 | Like, you gotta get him on there.
00:20:31.320 | He's so much more than a football player, so.
00:20:34.120 | - I appreciate that.
00:20:34.960 | - That's dope, yeah.
00:20:36.020 | Shoot, two more questions for you
00:20:38.600 | and then we'll call it a wrap.
00:20:39.840 | - I got you, fam.
00:20:40.680 | - So, I need, what's your favorite thing about you
00:20:45.520 | and then what's your least favorite thing about you?
00:20:47.600 | If you could name those two.
00:20:50.600 | - My favorite thing about me is,
00:20:52.280 | like, you could put me in really any room
00:20:56.640 | and, like, I feel like I could relate to somebody in there.
00:21:01.480 | I never really feel, like, out of my element,
00:21:03.360 | no matter where I go, no matter who I'm around.
00:21:06.080 | I always feel like, that socially, like,
00:21:10.120 | I can fuck with everybody, you know?
00:21:13.320 | Like, not like you wanna fuck with everybody,
00:21:14.960 | but I feel like that's one of my,
00:21:17.040 | that's one of my greatest things,
00:21:18.240 | just to be able to talk to, you know, anybody.
00:21:20.360 | Sometimes, you know, like,
00:21:21.280 | sometimes the energy don't be right
00:21:23.120 | for, like, you know, you to, like, talk to just anybody.
00:21:25.800 | But, like, if you put me in, like, a house party
00:21:27.560 | or something, like, man, like.
00:21:28.880 | - Yeah.
00:21:30.260 | - You know, I know, like, I'm gonna have a son.
00:21:31.440 | I go to PTA meetings now.
00:21:32.840 | Like, anything like that, like, you know, I'm gonna kill it.
00:21:36.080 | And I feel like that's one of the best things about,
00:21:39.600 | like, in a locker room, like,
00:21:41.320 | I feel like that's one of the greatest things about me.
00:21:43.280 | A brother, being a brother, being a, you know, a son.
00:21:47.200 | Like, I feel like those are some of the greatest things,
00:21:48.960 | 'cause I'm a team guy,
00:21:50.440 | and I always wanna see, like, the people around me,
00:21:52.640 | like, win or succeed, and I'm gonna try to help them.
00:21:55.160 | - You know.
00:21:56.000 | - I'm gonna try to assist them in doing that.
00:21:57.840 | And I feel like that's one of my greatest things,
00:22:00.000 | that I'm a great teammate.
00:22:00.920 | You can put me in any room,
00:22:02.360 | and I'm socially able to make it happen.
00:22:04.480 | I feel like, you know, one of the things that,
00:22:06.480 | about me that I don't like,
00:22:08.040 | I probably wish,
00:22:13.200 | you know, I really, you know, I'm like, I love myself.
00:22:16.000 | - Oh, me, that's a--
00:22:16.840 | - There's a couple of tattoos,
00:22:17.680 | there's a couple of tattoos that, you know.
00:22:20.040 | - There's a couple of tattoos that, like,
00:22:21.640 | you know, I feel like I could make it better.
00:22:23.400 | - That's it, that's all that y'all like?
00:22:24.880 | - No, if I could change something, though,
00:22:26.040 | like, I wish, like, I had, like, long, like, hair,
00:22:28.680 | like, you know, like, and I could sing.
00:22:30.880 | Like, if I had, like, hair, and I could sing,
00:22:32.760 | and I was the same Von, like, right now,
00:22:34.560 | like, the same Von I am today,
00:22:36.120 | but I had, like, real, real long hair, and I could sing,
00:22:38.760 | you know, I like--
00:22:39.600 | - That would be the total package.
00:22:40.640 | - Yeah, you know.
00:22:41.480 | (laughing)
00:22:42.800 | But that's, you know, if you're thinking about it,
00:22:44.680 | that's funny.
00:22:45.520 | - I already know it, it's funny.
00:22:46.520 | Now, I asked that, someone asked me that question
00:22:48.560 | the other day, that's why I asked it to you.
00:22:50.880 | It took me a minute to figure it out, too.
00:22:53.240 | - Yeah.
00:22:54.080 | - Last question for you, dog, just about the world,
00:22:57.080 | you know, there's so much going on right now in the world.
00:22:59.840 | If you could, you know, one of your purposes
00:23:03.840 | is to influence, if you could change one thing,
00:23:06.200 | or help in one way with everything going on in the world,
00:23:08.760 | what would you change about what's the state
00:23:11.600 | of the world right now?
00:23:12.600 | - Man, there's so many serious things that's going on
00:23:15.080 | in the world right now, like, you know,
00:23:17.560 | if you're thinking about it, it's 2021,
00:23:20.120 | and we got, like, global warming, you know,
00:23:23.960 | like, all type of stuff, and we got racism, like,
00:23:27.800 | those are, like, two of the craziest things, like,
00:23:30.960 | you know, in the world right now,
00:23:32.160 | if you think about, like, just global problems, right,
00:23:34.560 | like, global warming, like, we slowly, like,
00:23:38.240 | we slowly, like, baking ourselves,
00:23:39.560 | we slowly, like, destroying the planet,
00:23:41.560 | and it's, we got all of this other technology,
00:23:43.240 | we doing all these other things, crazy, like,
00:23:45.120 | we got cell phones, we can't, we can't figure out,
00:23:48.600 | like, global warming, or try to find, you know,
00:23:51.320 | some sustainable, like, resources,
00:23:53.200 | we using gasoline and fossil fuels,
00:23:54.880 | and we still using them, it's 2021,
00:23:57.320 | it's all type of, you know, problems in that area, too,
00:23:59.520 | and, like, with racism, it's just, like,
00:24:01.560 | it's, it's the, it's the weirdest thing, you know, like,
00:24:06.080 | it's just as, it's, it's just as serious,
00:24:08.120 | it's a global problem, just like,
00:24:09.960 | just like global warming, bro, like,
00:24:13.360 | you don't like somebody because, like,
00:24:14.680 | the color of, like, their skin, or, like,
00:24:16.080 | where they from, or, like, you judge 'em,
00:24:17.960 | or, like, you, you stereotype 'em off top,
00:24:20.160 | like, it's, instead of, like, you know,
00:24:23.480 | really, like, learning, and, like, you know,
00:24:24.920 | trying to figure people out, just off top,
00:24:26.440 | like, you see 'em, and you, like,
00:24:27.360 | profile 'em, like, off top, that's, like,
00:24:29.440 | you know, ridiculous. - It's crazy.
00:24:30.840 | Both of those things are like, out of all the things
00:24:32.920 | that our world is like dealing with,
00:24:34.520 | like those are like two things that like,
00:24:37.320 | just like blow my mind, like.
00:24:38.780 | - Have you experienced a lot of racism?
00:24:41.480 | - You know, I have experienced racism,
00:24:44.440 | but I wouldn't say like I experienced it a lot.
00:24:46.380 | Like not that, probably like that, I don't see,
00:24:50.160 | like I guess I'm so in like my bubble and like,
00:24:52.640 | you know what I'm doing, like I, you know,
00:24:54.920 | on a personal level, like, you know, I see it all,
00:24:58.480 | I see it, you know, you see it on TV, you can,
00:25:00.840 | I'm aware of it, it's happened to me like a couple of times,
00:25:03.320 | like you go overseas and like, people don't like,
00:25:05.600 | you're not like the same like Von Miller,
00:25:07.880 | like, you know, like what is football, you know?
00:25:10.360 | - It's like a black dude.
00:25:11.640 | - Like, you know, some people know you,
00:25:13.260 | but some people just like, are totally like oblivious
00:25:16.440 | and like, you go over there and you just, you know,
00:25:18.880 | you a regular guy and you experience, you know,
00:25:21.320 | things that, that normal, like, you know,
00:25:24.440 | people that's not like, like entertainers
00:25:26.600 | or like sport athletes, cause you know, people,
00:25:28.960 | they treat you different, like, you know,
00:25:30.800 | you just a regular guy and you're able to experience it
00:25:32.880 | and you're able to relate on like,
00:25:34.360 | some of the serious things that's, you know,
00:25:36.560 | really happening in the world, man.
00:25:38.160 | And like racism and global warming is two of the craziest
00:25:41.400 | things that I feel like I could say.
00:25:43.280 | - You like going overseas and kind of trying to become
00:25:47.800 | like a regular person for a little bit,
00:25:49.080 | blend in for a little bit?
00:25:49.920 | - I love, I love traveling, bro.
00:25:51.360 | I love going overseas, bro, especially like Europe.
00:25:53.720 | I went to, we went on, we went on tour with Drake in 2000
00:25:58.720 | and I think it was like 2017, the beginning of 2017, bro.
00:26:04.320 | And we were there for like, probably like the end
00:26:09.280 | of February until like April, bro, like.
00:26:12.320 | - For real?
00:26:13.160 | - Yeah, for like, it was like, it was like 35, 40 nights.
00:26:16.360 | - That's dope.
00:26:17.200 | - And we went to the, we went to the show,
00:26:19.000 | we went to the same show.
00:26:20.320 | Cause it was the same exact show because, you know,
00:26:22.680 | it might change like one or two things,
00:26:24.280 | but it's still like the same like lineup.
00:26:25.960 | And I probably went to like 19 or 18 or 19 shows.
00:26:29.480 | - Was it that little baby one,
00:26:30.520 | the one that had the yellow Lambo?
00:26:32.040 | - No, that was, that was the American tour.
00:26:33.720 | This was the Boy Meets The World tour
00:26:35.640 | where he went to like Amsterdam, Paris.
00:26:37.320 | - Ah, okay.
00:26:38.160 | - Yeah, cause he had the first tour with, you know,
00:26:40.960 | with the Migos and they had like a tour
00:26:42.920 | and that was an American tour.
00:26:44.120 | And then a year later they did it.
00:26:45.800 | But instead of taking the Migos, he took like,
00:26:47.920 | he took Young Thug and he had like some Europe,
00:26:50.080 | like some like gigs and like some local, you know,
00:26:54.000 | like European, like London rappers, English rappers.
00:26:57.120 | He would have them open up for him and stuff.
00:26:58.520 | But we went to like Germany and went to all these
00:27:00.720 | different places like Amsterdam, Ireland, you know,
00:27:05.040 | and you experiencing like, you going on tour like with him.
00:27:07.320 | So you get to see it like in a different light, bro.
00:27:09.880 | It was, it was amazing.
00:27:11.200 | It was really one of the top moments of my life.
00:27:13.040 | But at the same time, I was able to experience like
00:27:15.880 | some of these things that you wouldn't normally experience.
00:27:18.640 | - Right.
00:27:19.480 | - Like racism and all that type of stuff.
00:27:21.000 | - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:21.840 | - Yeah.
00:27:22.680 | - Shoot, man.
00:27:23.520 | Well, I appreciate you, man.
00:27:24.360 | - I appreciate you, bro.
00:27:25.560 | - Yeah, man.
00:27:26.400 | - Appreciate you.
00:27:27.240 | - Yeah, bro.
00:27:28.080 | For sure.
00:27:28.920 | - We out.
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