Cal And Jamie Explain The Internet | Atomic Bombs, Bari Weiss, And Inscrutable TikToks
Chapters
0:0 Cal's intro1:40 Atomic bombs
9:30 Twitter
20:41 Fusion
27:12 TikTok
38:34 Dave Chappelle
00:00:00.000 | This is my Twitter pitch meeting right here.
00:00:02.200 | Hey guys, what if we made a web page, but designed it as a panic attack?
00:00:07.360 | That's what it is.
00:00:10.360 | Yeah.
00:00:10.480 | What if it's a web page?
00:00:11.460 | And as you look at it, a pneumatic arm comes out from your computer
00:00:15.080 | and just pure epinephrine just.
00:00:17.080 | All right.
00:00:20.160 | I'm Cal Newport.
00:00:20.880 | I'm here with Jamie Kilstein for the very first installment in a new show.
00:00:26.560 | We're trying that is called Cal and Jamie explain the internet.
00:00:32.040 | I will briefly summarize the premise here.
00:00:35.140 | And then Jamie, I'm going to ask you to try to explain to the audience
00:00:37.620 | why in the hell we would do this.
00:00:38.740 | Yeah.
00:00:39.160 | Here's the, here's the problem.
00:00:40.680 | I'll be figuring it out while you talk right now.
00:00:42.640 | You have like 30 seconds to figure this out.
00:00:44.480 | Okay.
00:00:44.800 | So, so the, uh, the very well thought through premise that everyone thinks
00:00:48.080 | is a good idea is that, uh, I'm someone who sort of famously has never
00:00:52.680 | had a social media account.
00:00:54.240 | So I really often don't know what's going on in the world of the internet.
00:00:58.520 | Jamie somewhat famously used to be a big user of social media, but as, uh, as
00:01:04.320 | many of his fans know, has been really trying hard in recent months and years
00:01:09.120 | to use that much less, which makes Jamie and I at this moment, two of the worst
00:01:13.960 | people in the world to try to explain to you trends on the internet.
00:01:18.120 | So that is the premise of the show.
00:01:19.400 | We had my intrepid podcast producer, Jesse pull a collection of five articles,
00:01:24.880 | videos, or tweets that are big on the internet in the last week.
00:01:29.200 | He told me he was using Twitter trends, tech talk trends, and a program called
00:01:34.120 | tube buddy, which looks at what's trending on YouTube to try to figure out
00:01:38.720 | what are five things that normal internet users have almost certainly heard about.
00:01:43.320 | Jamie and I almost certainly know very little about it, but we will still try
00:01:46.600 | nonetheless to explain to you what we think is going on or how we think people.
00:01:50.680 | Reacting.
00:01:51.960 | So Jamie, why are we doing this?
00:01:53.360 | Uh, well, we are doing this for a couple of reasons.
00:01:56.480 | Number one, it's very funny to maybe only us.
00:01:59.800 | Number two, nothing in our friendship makes me laugh harder than when I would
00:02:04.600 | try to explain to Cal, uh, like very online TM stuff where I'm like, Hey, did
00:02:11.200 | you read about Glenn Greenwald?
00:02:12.960 | And Cal's like, no, I have a family and I'm happy.
00:02:15.520 | And I'm like, Oh, what's that like?
00:02:17.560 | And then, uh, so I think it'll be very fun.
00:02:20.880 | I think it'll be very funny.
00:02:22.120 | I also think for all of you listening, who have read cows work, listen to cows
00:02:27.120 | podcast, or trying to get off social media less.
00:02:29.920 | Um, I think hearing some of the dumb stuff that we're probably going to cover, um,
00:02:35.320 | may be the nail in the coffin and may solidify it for you.
00:02:39.360 | And, uh, if not, maybe also maybe Cal and I can give some non tribalized echo
00:02:46.480 | chamber takes on important issues.
00:02:49.600 | And maybe we'll accidentally stumble upon some really good stuff, uh, that
00:02:54.280 | you're not going to find on Twitter when everyone's just calling each other,
00:02:57.440 | either a cuck or Nazi.
00:03:00.320 | Uh, and then the final reason, uh, selfishly.
00:03:02.600 | I still have to be on social media to promote my podcast a little bit.
00:03:06.600 | So I still post clips and stuff like that.
00:03:08.760 | I don't get into fights anymore, but I eventually would like to move out into
00:03:13.120 | the woods, uh, with my girlfriend and never see a computer again.
00:03:16.560 | So I'm hoping that whatever is trending on tick tock today or in future episodes,
00:03:21.720 | uh, will drive me to become just, uh, just an armed, an armed father
00:03:27.400 | in the middle of the forest.
00:03:28.800 | Uh, and not a Nazi.
00:03:31.080 | Cuck, not a Nazi cock, not the worst kind of Nazis.
00:03:34.800 | I cuckolded Nazis are the worst.
00:03:38.200 | And you see, this is how, you know, I am a professor, not internet user.
00:03:41.120 | I use the full term.
00:03:42.040 | Cuckolded.
00:03:42.920 | All right, Jamie, I'm loading.
00:03:44.760 | Number one.
00:03:45.400 | All right.
00:03:46.200 | You will.
00:03:46.600 | We have not seen these.
00:03:47.480 | We have not seen any of these.
00:03:48.920 | We took this very seriously.
00:03:50.760 | Yes.
00:03:51.440 | Took this very serious.
00:03:52.240 | Okay.
00:03:52.520 | I'm going to click on a button here.
00:03:53.720 | We're going to share our first.
00:03:55.320 | Our first thing that was trending on the internet in the last week.
00:04:00.240 | Boom.
00:04:01.200 | Share.
00:04:01.760 | All right.
00:04:02.120 | We see a headline.
00:04:02.840 | Christopher Nolan recreated a nuclear weapon explosion without CGI.
00:04:07.720 | Jamie, what do you think is going on here?
00:04:09.280 | Oh no.
00:04:10.360 | Uh, whatever.
00:04:10.960 | When I, I truly have not seen this.
00:04:12.920 | Um, I have not seen this story without CGI.
00:04:19.040 | Um, something dangerous.
00:04:22.320 | Is it something dangerous?
00:04:24.160 | Did he blow up a city?
00:04:25.560 | I like, is that possible?
00:04:27.640 | I like the fact, I mean, this is the same year.
00:04:31.080 | Alec Baldwin shot a lady, right?
00:04:35.160 | Like one with like one gun, he shot a lady and Christopher Nolan saw that.
00:04:39.880 | And was like, you know what?
00:04:42.280 | I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to blow something up.
00:04:45.480 | I see.
00:04:46.160 | You think Christopher Nolan is big timing Alec Baldwin by murdering
00:04:51.640 | hundreds of thousands of people.
00:04:52.680 | You know, this is probably the tamest story we're going to cover.
00:04:56.200 | And I accidentally made our opening, probably the most
00:04:59.680 | offensive thing to come out.
00:05:01.400 | You didn't say you were, you thought it was a good idea.
00:05:04.480 | I think it's a very bad idea.
00:05:05.760 | Yeah, there we go.
00:05:06.280 | Yeah, to be clear, but also I think anything post dark night, uh, of
00:05:12.160 | Christopher Nolan has been kind of underwhelming anyway, I'm a moment.
00:05:14.880 | Uh, not sound like a hipster.
00:05:16.200 | I'm kind of a memento guy.
00:05:17.560 | Oh, you're talking to someone who saw Dunkirk in a 70 millimeter projection.
00:05:21.720 | So I'm going to argue about that.
00:05:22.840 | Uh, all right.
00:05:23.840 | Before we reveal here though, let me just say two reasons why I like Chris Nolan.
00:05:29.400 | Uh, number one, I had some articles somewhere that he doesn't use.
00:05:34.520 | Like email, I think.
00:05:36.440 | Yeah.
00:05:37.000 | He has like an old flip.
00:05:37.960 | He's one of these guys.
00:05:38.800 | Like he's so focused on, I'm making these huge movies.
00:05:41.080 | All my attention's on that.
00:05:42.760 | I wrote an article about him a couple of years ago.
00:05:44.560 | You're so true to brand.
00:05:46.200 | Well, the more of a hermit, this guy, someone is the more you're like, I'm in baby.
00:05:51.440 | Uh, and also he got really mad.
00:05:53.880 | I think he broke relations with Warner brothers when they started streaming.
00:05:58.600 | All of their movie productions on HBO max while they're in the theaters.
00:06:02.560 | And Nolan was like, I'm out of here.
00:06:03.880 | So he's old school.
00:06:05.080 | Let's be in a theater, not on a phone.
00:06:06.960 | So I like him.
00:06:07.440 | All right.
00:06:07.720 | What's really going on here.
00:06:08.640 | All right.
00:06:09.840 | Here's to reveal.
00:06:10.360 | I'll read this since this text might be small.
00:06:12.520 | He recreated the first nuclear weapon detonation.
00:06:15.760 | This is in his film Oppenheimer.
00:06:17.160 | I did hear about that.
00:06:17.920 | I'm a film geek about Robert Oppenheimer who ran the Manhattan
00:06:21.640 | project during world war II, the film.
00:06:23.840 | Blah, blah, blah.
00:06:25.280 | Don't bury the lead here, guys.
00:06:27.320 | They're talking about all the actors in this.
00:06:28.800 | Uh, how did he do this explosion?
00:06:30.520 | Come on.
00:06:31.120 | No one has always favored practical effects over VFX.
00:06:34.960 | He blew up a real Boeing seven 47 for tenant respect.
00:06:38.680 | So it's no, uh, the bad news was it was, uh, an active Delta flight, but
00:06:44.640 | you know, you gotta do what you gotta do.
00:06:45.720 | Hey man, it's all for the art for the art.
00:06:48.240 | Uh, it's that's why he doesn't have email or social media.
00:06:51.280 | So he can't be held accountable.
00:06:52.640 | Exactly.
00:06:53.440 | He doesn't want to hear the trolls who are going to prioritize.
00:06:57.240 | You killed a Delta flight of passengers.
00:06:59.800 | Like I'm doing art, baby.
00:07:01.040 | Um, so he said it'd be in the commenter.
00:07:03.480 | Oh man, there's so much texture.
00:07:05.080 | So how did he do this?
00:07:06.120 | Uh, blah, blah, blah.
00:07:07.760 | I don't know.
00:07:08.200 | It looks like he just blew up a big bomb.
00:07:09.560 | Were people mad?
00:07:10.920 | I think what eventually we'll get to when we start getting these stories sent to us
00:07:16.160 | is like, I want to see people's reactions.
00:07:19.160 | Right.
00:07:19.720 | Um, there are zero comments on this article.
00:07:22.800 | All right.
00:07:23.120 | This, so this is, this is a, this is an example I think of good internet, you
00:07:27.600 | know, where it's, here's like a quirky, interesting thing that you probably
00:07:31.240 | wouldn't have heard about, but if you're an internet user, you might've come across
00:07:34.360 | this, this was trending on YouTube or something.
00:07:36.040 | You'd be like, oh, that's cool.
00:07:36.960 | He like made a big explosion.
00:07:38.240 | It looks like a nuclear bomb.
00:07:39.440 | Uh, I'm, I'm giving this a sort of good internet thumbs up.
00:07:42.960 | I think this is good internet.
00:07:44.400 | And this is going to be the difference between me and Cal as well is I am so
00:07:48.400 | used to, um, I'm so used to bad internet that I think I jumped in and made my
00:07:55.240 | little, made my little offensive joke just preparing.
00:07:58.600 | So for example, I'm on a text thread right now.
00:08:01.320 | That the beloved movie, the whale, Brendan Fraser's like, you know, resurgence,
00:08:07.840 | staining ovation at all the film festivals, I guess Roxanne Gay wrote an
00:08:12.800 | angry, uh, wrote a piece about it because something about fat people.
00:08:18.280 | And, um, so I'm very used to, as I was part of back in the day, like 10 years
00:08:23.120 | ago, I'm very used to outrage culture.
00:08:25.360 | So when I see something that you might rate as good, oh, what a cool, what a
00:08:30.760 | cool thing for a filmmaker to do.
00:08:32.440 | I'm just waiting for like my old friends to be like, this is offensive to bombs.
00:08:37.400 | And I'm like, I don't get it.
00:08:38.840 | Nice beard, Nolan.
00:08:40.720 | You have a problem with faces.
00:08:42.200 | Yeah, I get it.
00:08:42.840 | So you're, you're locked in.
00:08:44.160 | You're locked in on.
00:08:45.440 | All right.
00:08:46.320 | I think this next one.
00:08:47.520 | I have it loaded here.
00:08:48.720 | This is a trending Twitter thread.
00:08:52.800 | So I think here we're going to maybe leave good internet.
00:08:54.840 | So let's see, I'm going to go back to share.
00:08:56.400 | Yeah.
00:08:57.400 | Go back to share.
00:08:59.600 | I click on it.
00:09:01.000 | Here we go.
00:09:01.720 | We need theme songs for leaving good internet.
00:09:04.840 | Like just like a kind of cryptic, like rowing down the haunted
00:09:08.280 | river, kind of old Disney, uh, theme.
00:09:10.960 | Oh, it's, it's my buddy, Barry Weiss.
00:09:13.120 | This will definitely be bad.
00:09:14.200 | All right.
00:09:14.800 | Let's see here.
00:09:15.520 | Thread the Twitter files, part two, Twitter's secret backlist.
00:09:21.000 | All right.
00:09:21.880 | Well, Jamie, you know, Barry, do you already know this story or
00:09:24.320 | are you, are you looking at this?
00:09:25.320 | I'm going to be honest with you.
00:09:26.760 | This is new Jamie.
00:09:28.280 | Old Jamie would have had so many takes on it.
00:09:30.920 | New Jamie looked at that.
00:09:33.080 | It's something she's doing with journalist, Matt Taibbi, who
00:09:35.280 | I've also known for a while.
00:09:36.480 | And I just kind of go good for them.
00:09:39.720 | And then I click out of it.
00:09:41.720 | Um, I saw some people on both sides being outraged and I, I barely dude.
00:09:49.360 | I mean, this is probably one of the biggest stories right now, period.
00:09:53.400 | And I have just like, I've I'm rewatching Jack Ryan since season three is coming
00:09:58.440 | out and just living my best life.
00:10:00.120 | So I, I I've heard about, like, I know this is happening.
00:10:05.480 | I know that that Elon Musk is, uh, releasing internal Twitter
00:10:10.480 | files to independent reporters.
00:10:13.200 | So I know about that.
00:10:14.040 | And I know that there's some stipulation that they have
00:10:16.680 | to post about it on Twitter.
00:10:19.080 | I don't, I don't know a lot of the details.
00:10:21.520 | Let's not read this whole thing, but here's number point.
00:10:23.800 | Number one from this, right.
00:10:24.680 | By the way, can I just say, I wrote an article about Twitter for this one.
00:10:28.960 | I think it was for Wired magazine early in the pandemic.
00:10:32.400 | And I made this point, this is such a terrible platform for any
00:10:38.680 | sort of complex information.
00:10:40.720 | Like, look at this, let's put all content aside.
00:10:42.680 | Look at the screen, this thread situation where you have like a couple of sentences
00:10:46.640 | and you have to link to another thing with a couple of sentences and number it.
00:10:49.320 | It's like guys, websites exist, blogs exist.
00:10:53.000 | There, there has to be some way.
00:10:54.400 | Uh, it's crazy that this is like the number one way over the last three years,
00:10:57.800 | the complex information is, is yeah.
00:11:00.240 | It's not like we haven't cracked the tech yet.
00:11:02.120 | Yeah.
00:11:02.400 | This is my Twitter pitch meeting right here.
00:11:04.640 | Hey guys, what if we made a webpage, but designed it as a panic attack?
00:11:09.800 | That's what it is.
00:11:12.760 | Yeah.
00:11:12.880 | What if it's a webpage?
00:11:13.880 | And as you look at it, a pneumatic arm comes out from your computer
00:11:17.520 | and just pure epinephrine.
00:11:19.040 | Just, there we go.
00:11:23.000 | Yeah.
00:11:23.320 | Uh, well, and then on top of that, it's like the algorithms make
00:11:28.120 | it harder to see certain people.
00:11:29.840 | And well, that's kind of what this is sort of about.
00:11:32.160 | So read whatever part you want.
00:11:33.680 | All right.
00:11:34.040 | All right.
00:11:34.760 | So here's number, I'll read the first couple tweets, which again, I have to
00:11:37.520 | jump from tweet to tweet to read this.
00:11:38.800 | That's a tech issue.
00:11:39.520 | All right.
00:11:40.040 | A new Twitter files investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees
00:11:44.320 | build blacklist, prevent disfavored tweets from twin trending and actively
00:11:49.040 | limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics, all in a secret,
00:11:52.960 | all in secret without informing users.
00:11:55.080 | Here's one example.
00:11:56.440 | Take for example, Stanford's Dr.
00:11:58.520 | J Bhattacharya.
00:11:59.600 | I do know who that is because I was a COVID nerd early in COVID who argued that
00:12:03.280 | COVID lockdowns would harm children.
00:12:04.800 | Twitter secretly placed him on a trends, a blacklist, which
00:12:07.920 | prevented his tweets from.
00:12:09.120 | Trending.
00:12:09.720 | All right.
00:12:09.960 | So this is a, this is about secretly.
00:12:12.240 | Whatever throttling people on Twitter.
00:12:16.560 | Um, so what, what, all right.
00:12:19.120 | That makes sense.
00:12:19.600 | First of all, what's your take on it?
00:12:21.320 | Second of all, how do you think people reacted to this?
00:12:23.240 | I'm sure reasonably.
00:12:24.080 | Yeah, it's a, it's all bad.
00:12:26.080 | It's all bad.
00:12:26.880 | All bad.
00:12:27.240 | I think all of it, all of it's bad.
00:12:29.320 | Um, well, what's funny is.
00:12:31.720 | You know, there, there are a bunch of different like memes that go around
00:12:35.880 | about conspiracy theorists where it's like, Hey, we've been right, essentially
00:12:40.200 | the last couple of years, and I hate to admit it, right.
00:12:43.560 | But there were a lot of people who were talking about shadow banning and soft
00:12:50.200 | banning and things like this.
00:12:51.840 | And a lot of them were on the right.
00:12:54.840 | And a lot of people on the left were calling them delusional,
00:12:59.000 | calling them conspiracy, blah, blah, blah.
00:13:01.080 | I'm definitely shadow banned on Instagram and I haven't posted a
00:13:04.120 | damn thing about the vaccine.
00:13:05.640 | I'm just like mental health and dogs and comedy.
00:13:07.800 | Um, and.
00:13:10.360 | You know, that kind of get made fun of and what Barry and Ty Eby uncovered is
00:13:17.480 | like, no, there are actually memos from the government being like, Hey, like
00:13:22.560 | to Twitter to, you know, being like, Hey, check out this guy.
00:13:26.320 | This is, you know, whatever.
00:13:27.760 | And a lot of the things they were posting at the time.
00:13:31.680 | I think that people thought were dangerous because we didn't know as
00:13:36.040 | much about COVID as we did now.
00:13:37.600 | So it was a lot of like anti mask people.
00:13:39.640 | It was people who were skeptical about the vaccine.
00:13:41.560 | And, uh, and so they were just like, fucking shut it down.
00:13:47.320 | Um, and yeah, I think that's bad.
00:13:49.880 | I think that we should have access to all information and then we should be
00:13:53.920 | able to make decisions for ourself.
00:13:55.520 | But my, what I would throw back to you though, is in the way social media
00:14:01.200 | works on our brains and the way tribalism works and these algorithm works.
00:14:05.760 | Is, is that actually naive of me?
00:14:08.520 | And is it even possible to just, Hey, give us, give us information on
00:14:13.080 | both sides and we'll, we'll figure it out.
00:14:15.160 | Like, where do you draw the line, I guess, um, for this kind of
00:14:19.720 | like soft banning shadow banning.
00:14:21.520 | Yeah.
00:14:21.920 | Which, which has happened to us.
00:14:23.520 | I'm sure.
00:14:23.840 | Like, why did everyone stop talking to me?
00:14:24.920 | Well, look, okay.
00:14:25.840 | I have a, I have a, like a.
00:14:27.360 | A small scale and big scale take on this.
00:14:30.560 | I mean, small scale take, uh, if you're going to run one of these platforms,
00:14:35.560 | you're going to have to make these types of decisions, right?
00:14:39.040 | Like we've seen that, um, you look at 4chan, like 4chan had to start making
00:14:43.680 | some of those decisions, which led to 8chan, right?
00:14:46.560 | Like 8chan was people saying, uh, you cucks over at 4chan.
00:14:50.520 | Am I using cucks right by the way?
00:14:51.800 | Is that right?
00:14:52.280 | Yeah, sure.
00:14:52.800 | Dude, I know the Shakespearean reference.
00:14:55.040 | So, so I don't know if this is right.
00:14:56.480 | There's no wrong way to use that word.
00:14:58.920 | It is the funniest.
00:15:00.240 | All right.
00:15:00.680 | So, so 4chan was just cucking along with a bunch of cucks
00:15:03.400 | and they had a cucking policy.
00:15:04.760 | Um, but anyway, so you have to, you're going to have to do this, right?
00:15:07.720 | Like there's going to be, uh, there's going to be cases where like, we
00:15:11.160 | don't want this on our platform.
00:15:12.400 | We just, we have advertisers, right.
00:15:13.880 | Um, and then the, the dividing line is always going to be hazy.
00:15:17.400 | So the fact that, so Twitter is based in San Francisco, that, I mean, the number
00:15:22.720 | I saw is that 99% of their employees, according to public records, voted
00:15:27.760 | Democrat in the last one percent is Elon Musk and the other one percent was Elon
00:15:32.640 | Musk.
00:15:32.840 | Yeah.
00:15:33.000 | Or I, I think they, they have, um, what's the name?
00:15:36.280 | Uh, Milo in a cage somewhere.
00:15:38.040 | Is that the right name?
00:15:38.760 | My, yeah, yeah.
00:15:40.360 | They kind of poke at them.
00:15:41.480 | They, they put tweets in front of him and if he gets excited, they ban them.
00:15:44.080 | I think that's the one.
00:15:45.240 | But anyways, my, my point is, is like, okay.
00:15:47.320 | Uh, so how do you avoid them in that situation?
00:15:50.520 | If you're internally making decisions to have an Overton window, that's going to
00:15:53.200 | be just farther towards the farther left, um, than rest of the country.
00:15:58.480 | That seems unavoidable.
00:16:00.160 | Uh, making moderation decisions are unavoidable.
00:16:02.640 | I mean, I don't know any answer to that in the small scale beyond, and this is what
00:16:05.840 | I thought Elon should have done, but you know, it seems like he might be going
00:16:09.120 | crazy.
00:16:09.960 | Uh, what he should have done was just said, yes, we have to make this moderation
00:16:13.560 | decisions.
00:16:14.200 | Um, we're just going to balance out who's on these committees so that like that
00:16:17.680 | Overton window is roughly centered.
00:16:20.320 | Like I, I said this in a podcast a couple of weeks ago.
00:16:22.960 | Um, the standard should be, you know, if your mom would be kind of upset about
00:16:28.320 | something, and I don't mean your mom in particular, but just like millennials,
00:16:32.280 | moms, like people in their seventies, we have such like, okay, let's be, be worried
00:16:35.200 | about.
00:16:35.360 | So like things where you would have to be like pretty up on sort of cutting edge
00:16:39.120 | political ideology to understand something is offensive.
00:16:41.520 | Like that probably wouldn't fall into like a standard, like what ups and downs.
00:16:44.200 | A couple of things real quick.
00:16:45.600 | I think that one, the, um, I love you pointing out that Elon Musk is going crazy
00:16:51.080 | because that means his billions of dollars, all the businesses he runs, that's not
00:16:55.080 | what made him crazy.
00:16:55.920 | What made him crazy was a month on Twitter and he just fucking completely went like
00:17:00.120 | koohoo bananas.
00:17:00.960 | That is by the way, that is exactly what, and this is.
00:17:04.000 | I'm not talking out of school because this was during the episodes, what Sam
00:17:07.440 | Harris told me.
00:17:08.400 | Sam knows Elon and in my recent appearance on Sam's podcast, he told me on air,
00:17:12.760 | uh, Twitter broke Elon's brain, but, but he, he actually says it's not him buying
00:17:17.560 | Twitter that broke his brain.
00:17:18.400 | He bought Twitter because Twitter had broken his brain.
00:17:20.280 | So he was so addicted to it.
00:17:21.560 | That's why he bought Twitter.
00:17:24.280 | He spent $40 billion.
00:17:25.960 | It's, it's, you know, it's like chasing that pure Coke in the eighties or
00:17:28.440 | something.
00:17:28.640 | Anyways, go on.
00:17:29.160 | Do that's exactly what it is.
00:17:30.520 | Uh, number two, I wanted to say that, I mean, the serious thing is, and I'm sure
00:17:36.440 | what's going to be great about this show is just like when, you know, you're
00:17:40.240 | listening to fucking two bears, one cave and they're like, what's that movie?
00:17:44.000 | And the fans are like at home screaming the movie.
00:17:46.480 | Like I know what it is.
00:17:47.200 | People are screaming at us.
00:17:48.640 | Like what is actually happening?
00:17:50.040 | Um, you know, where this became even more problematic is look, man, companies,
00:17:54.520 | private companies have the right to choose who uses their platform.
00:17:58.440 | Um, where this got even crazier was the fact that there are memos from
00:18:05.960 | political administrations pretty much being like, Hey, get this guy, go get
00:18:10.800 | this guy, shadow ban this.
00:18:11.840 | And now it's like, okay, well now the government is censoring voices and that's
00:18:16.880 | not good.
00:18:17.520 | And then the most important thing I was going to say is, uh, uh, Jesse, if you're
00:18:22.200 | listening and we're looking for short clips to post, please cut a cow saying,
00:18:26.600 | uh, cuckoody, cut, cuck, or whatever, uh, that was, I wish I had the timestamps.
00:18:30.880 | He's cutting as we speak.
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