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5:31 What in God's Name?
12:23 Lex Friedman
32:37 TMZ
47:7 Mr. Beast
57:47 Speakers
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I love old weird internet where you have these hand coded sites and your angel fire GeoCities 00:00:06.540 |
blog and you didn't have this worry that, okay, this thing I post on here could be amplified 00:00:16.560 |
Welcome to Cal and Jamie explain the internet. 00:00:18.480 |
This is the show where two guys who by choice spend very little time online attempt to explain 00:00:23.840 |
some of the biggest trends from the last week of internet culture. 00:00:28.280 |
We will once again show you that the internet is not real life. 00:00:30.840 |
We will sum up insane trending stories so you don't have to read about it or feel forced 00:00:34.820 |
to tweet your political opinion about Kevin McCarthy and immediately be fired from your 00:00:40.800 |
My name is Jamie Kielstein and I am Cal Newport. 00:00:43.040 |
We have today five stories that were trending in internet culture over the last week or 00:00:49.140 |
so we will give you our completely uninformed take on them. 00:00:53.200 |
This I think is a particularly, I don't know, poignant wink to be doing this because from 00:00:59.400 |
what I understand you are in the middle of a social media fast. 00:01:05.000 |
My church, which is something I never thought I would say, my church is doing like a 21 00:01:10.920 |
day fast and most people are fasting from food and doing stuff like that. 00:01:18.880 |
My pastor hit me with the last option which he calls a soul fast and he's like, "Just 00:01:24.680 |
ask God what do you really need to fast from?" 00:01:27.480 |
And dude, I would have rather fasted from food not because that would make my life better. 00:01:34.920 |
Getting off social media would make my life better but I just kept convincing myself that 00:01:41.640 |
I need it for what a lot of the listeners probably do." 00:01:43.680 |
Like, yeah, of course I'd like to get off it. 00:01:47.400 |
I literally convinced myself that you would get mad at me. 00:01:50.480 |
You Cal Newport, who writes about social media and not being on it, would get mad at me because 00:01:56.240 |
you would be like, "Well, who's going to get our stories if you're off social media? 00:02:04.400 |
It's like the alcoholic that's like, "Yeah, but what if I need to be drinking to close 00:02:09.640 |
the deal with the Nakamoto merger or whatever?" 00:02:22.520 |
Then I realized that was insane and I texted you and you were like, "Oh, that's a great 00:02:38.080 |
It's like when you're in recovery for alcohol, like going to whatever it is, 6th Street in 00:02:43.200 |
Austin at 3 a.m. and be like, "Man, I'm glad that's not me. 00:02:47.240 |
Or is this like taking the guys from the A meeting to a bourbon tasting? 00:02:53.920 |
Is this giving you a touch or is it giving you confidence in your decision? 00:02:58.200 |
I mean, you could read the first story and I could be like, "Joe Biden said what? 00:03:05.520 |
But I think that this will probably keep me off. 00:03:14.200 |
I don't think it's healthy, but when I quit things, I have to announce to everybody that 00:03:22.000 |
I could smoke cigarettes for 15 years and then on day one of year 15, just be like, 00:03:32.680 |
So then if I do start smoking again, they will beat me to death. 00:03:37.800 |
I think this is a great way to remind me that social media is bad. 00:03:46.160 |
So I was worthless finding stories and helping you this week. 00:03:50.680 |
But it's for a better cause and let's hope this goes well and not like my... 00:03:54.840 |
I think it might be my top five unnecessary Simpsons quotes would be Barney winning the 00:04:02.760 |
film festival for his movie about alcoholism and sobriety. 00:04:07.220 |
And they're like, "And your prize is a year supply of Duff beer." 00:04:12.960 |
And then the guy just comes out, the tech just comes out so matter of fact and just 00:04:22.640 |
My Barney quote, I was going to quote the one where he gets sober and joins NASA because 00:04:28.360 |
And then he beats Homer and they go to congratulate him and he takes a sip of champagne and just 00:04:36.720 |
And then they all go, "That was non-alcoholic wine," or whatever it was. 00:04:42.920 |
And of course, again, it's matter of factly just walks over and takes a jet pack and puts 00:04:49.800 |
See, all internet culture issues would be solved if we just use the internet for what 00:04:52.880 |
it was meant for, which was essentially like sharing Simpsons quotes. 00:04:59.440 |
The group chat with me and two of my brothers on Instagram is only Simpsons clips. 00:05:04.720 |
And it's just us being like, "Ah, the good old days." 00:05:13.000 |
I'm going to click my share screen button here. 00:05:16.560 |
We're going to be discussing these for the first time. 00:05:36.480 |
I don't know what it is, but I'll tell you where it's from. 00:05:47.000 |
So number one, I didn't realize Tumblr still existed. 00:05:50.080 |
I went to what's trending on Tumblr and just grabbed something from the top five. 00:05:54.720 |
So this was like two or three when I was going through here. 00:05:57.680 |
So if you were on Tumblr, there's a good chance you saw this. 00:06:00.560 |
My Simpsons reference for you in that moment was when Bart was working at the burlesque 00:06:05.120 |
house and Principal Skinner saunters in and immediate... 00:06:09.560 |
Oh no, actually you're more of the grandpa where he just looks at Bart, grabs his hat 00:06:13.920 |
and just goes, "Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo," and turns around and leaves. 00:06:19.920 |
You just clicking on Tumblr and being like, "I got to get out of here," and taking a fast 00:06:27.120 |
For those who are listening and not watching, these are my little ponies. 00:06:35.440 |
And one of them is saying, "Oh my goodness, Applejack, look. 00:06:39.280 |
It's an anemore locust, one of the most recognizable creatures of the Cambrian explosion." 00:06:45.600 |
And the other one says, "What's in God's name?" 00:06:56.680 |
So we're just wandering into this is just clear signaling for... 00:07:03.880 |
And any time I've been confused by something on the internet and I just go, "I'm just going 00:07:19.240 |
Tumblr started off, correct me if I'm wrong, as a journaling site. 00:07:22.960 |
And you would just journal and it was kind of angsty teenagers. 00:07:26.120 |
And then it definitely was far more left-wing than right-wing. 00:07:32.360 |
There weren't a lot of right-wing emo journal entries from William M. Buckley's granddaughter. 00:07:46.200 |
You're posting a blog style text and image post. 00:07:49.720 |
Well, and then there was a phase where it was just like hard sex. 00:07:55.040 |
It went from the journal entries to that was the place where just erotica and fan fiction 00:08:01.120 |
and just straight clips of just sex became a thing. 00:08:11.080 |
And now it kind of would make sense to me that kind of like the sex fetish people just 00:08:20.840 |
And it has a very sort of abandoned carnival feel where there's just like a Ferris wheel 00:08:28.680 |
that's broken and just hasn't been used in 20 years. 00:08:32.320 |
But under the boardwalk, it's a bunch of dudes dressed as My Little Ponies. 00:08:37.160 |
That's just the vibe I'm getting from this where they can just be free in the wreckage 00:08:46.480 |
So it's like a digital post-apocalyptic landscape that allows sort of like interesting. 00:08:56.560 |
That's just what I'm getting from looking at this. 00:08:59.760 |
Deeply researched history of Tumblr from Dr. Jamie Kilstein. 00:09:04.280 |
One, that trajectory of going from like one thing to hardcore sex. 00:09:09.520 |
Little known fact, same fate for pbskids.com. 00:09:14.920 |
It was a weird angle, a really weird turn that took. 00:09:17.520 |
But you know, I think that was, I believe it was Jim Blair's idea. 00:09:30.560 |
Well, listen, but I'll tell you what, here's the interesting thing I'm taking away from 00:09:32.840 |
I'm not going to say a lot of little pony stuff. 00:09:33.840 |
I know it's a thing, but I don't know much about it. 00:09:37.160 |
But I do sort of like this idea that in the wreckage of once big sites, you're actually 00:09:45.280 |
So I actually, so I have a, you know me, this is my thing on the show is I always have a 00:09:51.840 |
I love old weird internet where, you know, you have these hand coded sites and your angel 00:09:59.240 |
And you didn't have this worry that, okay, this thing I post on here could be amplified 00:10:06.760 |
And so like, you could just have this and it's anonymous. 00:10:13.560 |
And what is it probably funny if you're like Jamie Kielstie. 00:10:15.560 |
And then that's what I noticed, like a little bit of like a pony head in the background 00:10:26.640 |
I feel like this story has made me sort of like a 1990s libertarian leaning conservative 00:10:33.840 |
dad where I'm just like, you know, I'm fine with they do as long as they don't do it in 00:10:39.000 |
Like I would rather go to Tumblr with the weird stuff I don't get instead of it just 00:10:43.320 |
like constantly popping up on my Twitter feed. 00:10:46.040 |
If that's where, if that's your guys little safe space for whatever this is, um, you know, 00:10:55.320 |
I mean, I'm asking you because you spent much more time on Twitter, but Twitter is not a 00:11:03.000 |
Because it's associated with you and it's so scrutinized. 00:11:09.680 |
So I'm glad there's places out there like I don't mess around with stuff, you know, 00:11:21.600 |
God, I hope one of your listeners doesn't like write in to tell us like that. 00:11:30.340 |
It's like, uh, puppy murdering and not just like quick and painless puppy murdering, but 00:11:36.400 |
like it's a whole culture of we find and kidnap puppies and, and, and who are the sweet, only 00:11:47.240 |
It's like a terrible thing and they all, but the code word for it is something about the 00:11:52.760 |
If you can't bring explosion, it's like, we're going to use the like contractor bag to collect 00:11:58.600 |
the bloody chunks of puppies to come through. 00:12:00.960 |
And there's like other references for other ways you do it. 00:12:03.520 |
Oh, I love that you're out of the two of us, the academic and uh, yeah, that's where that 00:12:22.960 |
So if you just see this tweet, you might be wondering why is this trending? 00:12:27.200 |
It just says, I'm reading a book a week in 2023. 00:12:34.920 |
I'll adjust the list, but I'm going to start on Monday and be done by Sunday. 00:12:38.360 |
So he's gonna read one book each week and he might do, he's announcing, might do low 00:12:42.040 |
key videos of like, Hey, what did I learn each week from the books? 00:12:51.280 |
I know about this story because Jamie sent it to me. 00:12:55.680 |
You know, so what, why are we talking about this? 00:12:58.640 |
I texted you furiously and I wrote about it at, uh, Jamie Kilstein dot sub stack.com. 00:13:05.800 |
Um, if you guys want to follow my writing, I read a lot about mental health, but because 00:13:12.520 |
I was very online when stuff like this happens, I write about it as well. 00:13:17.800 |
So people saw this list and lost their minds. 00:13:26.840 |
And well, it is because of tribalism where even though, and you know, Lex, um, you know, 00:13:34.000 |
you can't, you're not going to speak for him, but like I would have never considered Lex 00:13:39.200 |
even in like, I mean, maybe in my super very online days, like, and he's, he's in the group 00:13:46.560 |
of podcasters that will talk to anyone despite their political leanings. 00:13:55.480 |
So he'll interview, uh, you, but he'll also interview John Danaher, a famous jujitsu coach, 00:14:01.320 |
but he'll interview Kanye and then he'll interview, uh, someone from fucking AIPAC to cat. 00:14:11.000 |
And if you go both sides, people on the left just call you a right wing. 00:14:17.040 |
If you've, if you've interviewed Jordan Peterson before, then anything you say will be scrutinized. 00:14:23.440 |
So, you know, not to get political on the show, but a lot of the people attacking him 00:14:29.260 |
would have to, because again, the books were innocuous. 00:14:31.900 |
If it was like, I'm going to read a book a week and every week it was a different translation 00:14:35.920 |
of mind comp, then I'd be like, buddy, what's happening. 00:14:40.880 |
But it was, you know, a lot of just classic books and people were like, Oh, right wing 00:14:58.240 |
So, so the pushback was in the form of mockery. 00:14:59.680 |
Like these, these books aren't like, why haven't you read these books? 00:15:03.680 |
When I heard he was getting canceled and he even tweeted, I did not think that by the 00:15:12.840 |
And everyone was like, fuck you Lex and lost their minds. 00:15:16.840 |
There was one guy, I don't know if I sent you the tweet, but he's a pretty famous dude. 00:15:21.560 |
I haven't heard of him, but he was like, this is why I won't go on this idiots podcast, 00:15:31.720 |
Jordan Peterson chimed in and was like, it was like, I don't even remember what he said. 00:15:37.920 |
And then that guy was like, shut up, Peterson, you're an idiot. 00:15:40.040 |
And it just erupted from Lex being like, Hey, I want to go revisit, you know, 1984 or whatever 00:15:48.640 |
And so what I wrote about, you know, I wrote about one that this is probably something 00:15:56.120 |
that I would have jumped on, you know, um, back in the day. 00:16:01.360 |
But you would have put your finger up first, right into the wind. 00:16:05.240 |
Are we just like, that's, that's the way that goes, right? 00:16:07.400 |
You're like, you gotta, you have to get the parameters of why we're mad at someone and 00:16:14.280 |
I mean, honestly, I assumed that when I saw Lex Friedman as being canceled over books, 00:16:18.880 |
I assumed that it was, Oh, they were all like white guy authors or whatever, but it really 00:16:24.040 |
wasn't that it was so much lamer than that, where it was just, Hey, this guy's trying 00:16:30.280 |
And you know, a lot of people, um, yeah, I, I, I think I wrote, um, that my days used 00:16:41.760 |
Number two, see the name of someone I'm not supposed to like. 00:16:43.800 |
Number three, see what the people, this is the, the, the finger in the air I'm supposed 00:16:47.200 |
to agree with her saying number four, find a funnier way to say it. 00:16:52.040 |
Um, and then number five, basking retweets while my personal life falls apart. 00:16:55.640 |
And yeah, I mean, this was essentially, this was my life. 00:17:01.080 |
Let's, let's put on, you know, very online, Jamie hats, like go back to the time machine. 00:17:06.960 |
It's like, what's, what would be on the spot? 00:17:13.120 |
If this had happened, it's a pretty able list of Lexford men to list that he can read a 00:17:17.720 |
bunch of books a week while we're all struggling at minimum wage jobs. 00:17:26.240 |
Uh, no, I dude, I mean, it would have just, it would have been jumping on board. 00:17:30.840 |
Here's why I actually wrote about this is because a lot of people who are trashing Lex 00:17:36.600 |
and chime in if you want from what you know about him personally or don't, but they were 00:17:47.760 |
And some dare I say would consider him privileged for he's doing what I'm trying to do in my 00:17:52.640 |
social media career, which is he is trying to bring people together, trying to tweet 00:17:58.520 |
about, Hey man, things are really hard, but let's look for love. 00:18:03.880 |
And to me, to me, when I see him, it seems very authentic, but people, social media has 00:18:11.560 |
trained us to be so antagonistic that when someone just tweets like, Hey, we should all 00:18:17.440 |
I mean, every time I tweet something like that, I'll, I'll get at least three or four 00:18:21.240 |
tweets that are like, Oh, what's your angle or easy for you to say, or, Oh, this fake 00:18:27.600 |
Like, like saying to be nice to each other is somehow a grift. 00:18:33.480 |
If you change your mind, if you become more conservative or more liberal, if you're trying 00:18:40.420 |
And it's like, wow, we have become that nihilistic that trying to be nice or trying to read a 00:18:45.280 |
book a week or telling people they should meditate or go to the gym. 00:18:49.040 |
Somehow there has to be some political angle. 00:18:54.000 |
But somehow it has to become political or, uh, we have to find a way to discredit them. 00:19:00.160 |
And that's what I just think is, I mean, honestly, like it's, it's evil when it comes to social 00:19:05.120 |
media where it's like, we're attacking people for trying to do good. 00:19:08.680 |
That's so, I mean, here's having met Lex, I don't know him well, but I've met him before 00:19:15.360 |
as far as I can tell, this is, he's just a nice guy. 00:19:18.560 |
And the reason why that's not, it's not surprising to me. 00:19:23.600 |
Because there's the shared bit of background that I can have with Lex. 00:19:32.640 |
He came to my attention because he has on his show, all of these big name professors 00:19:39.960 |
And to me, when I first encountered Lex, like this is great that there's probably like a 00:19:44.080 |
big audience of Joe Rogan fans who are now hearing Silvio Macaulay, the cryptographer, 00:19:53.000 |
He's like, you know, he's like, I'm not even on famous computer scientists. 00:19:56.480 |
But those of us who come out of academia, you know, we're probably too busy doing math 00:20:00.400 |
equations to really be plugged in the culture. 00:20:02.520 |
So there's a sort of, and also he's not American, right? 00:20:07.640 |
So there's more of a, you know, Tocqueville in America type relationship, I think, going 00:20:12.800 |
on to our culture of like, I was doing math and CS, I'm not even from the US. 00:20:16.840 |
So I'm not, I'm not plugged into or placed into these existing cultural streams. 00:20:22.960 |
Like where, where do you sit and what team are you on, especially online? 00:20:25.960 |
I just don't think that comes naturally to him. 00:20:27.440 |
And I think that breaks people's brains like that. 00:20:30.760 |
It can't be because you have a bit, you have to be, well, whose team are you on, man? 00:20:39.360 |
Every time I've talked to him, he's honestly seemed like a really curious, nice guy who 00:20:45.160 |
And also like, man, if you start the less I'm on social media, the more I can appreciate 00:20:53.640 |
I don't care how Jordan Peterson feels about pronouns or some of the stuff he said, that's 00:21:00.040 |
But when I first discovered Jordan Peterson, it was just like a strong male personality 00:21:06.700 |
being like, Hey man, take responsibility for your stuff, make your bed, like fix your problems. 00:21:11.360 |
And that was really helpful for me at that time in my life. 00:21:14.500 |
And so I don't have to agree with everything he says politically or where he works to. 00:21:21.400 |
I don't suddenly have to like disown the good he did in my life. 00:21:27.040 |
I mean, I'm sure your audience is pretty good with that, but it's like you can separate 00:21:32.660 |
You can have relationships with people where you don't agree with everything. 00:21:35.620 |
You can see someone tweet, Hey, I'm going to try to read a book. 00:21:41.600 |
What a cool little thing I'm doing for myself. 00:21:48.120 |
Like he just posted a YouTube video, which I haven't watched, like in response to it. 00:21:51.560 |
And, you know, he seems like he's taking it in good. 00:21:54.040 |
I mean, God, if anything, it just, it, it, it proved his point that we should be reading 00:22:00.120 |
Well, if you had a friend come up to you at like a guy from work, I mean, like a good 00:22:05.520 |
friend, like, Hey Jamie, like I'm, I thought you'd be interested. 00:22:10.800 |
I've read a bunch of these before, but I really want to just like read them from scratch. 00:22:33.300 |
You know, like it would be, it would be weird. 00:22:36.880 |
And by the way, man, this ties into a mental health thing I've been talking about on my 00:22:41.880 |
podcast, but like I do this now as an adult and I was actually just listening to an old 00:22:47.560 |
Conan podcast and he was saying, Conan was saying how his neighbors, old neighbors thought 00:22:59.320 |
And in reality, no, it was him being mean to himself. 00:23:08.840 |
And you know, I, I was helping this like eight year old girl that I kind of mentor. 00:23:19.760 |
I was like, do you say nice things about yourself to yourself? 00:23:39.960 |
Do you think that I get excited every time I'm going to post something just like, Hey 00:23:44.160 |
man, just went for a walk in nature and like, I know life's hard, but if you just breathe 00:23:48.840 |
in and look at the beauty around you, it's like the idea that while typing that in my 00:23:53.080 |
head is Rolodexing all of the things that people hate me could say. 00:23:58.120 |
And then it just gets solidified with stories like this. 00:24:02.000 |
It might be a must be nice to have functioning lungs. 00:24:07.960 |
Why don't you go tell the coal miners recovering down in West Virginia about your fresh air 00:24:18.800 |
Oh, so you support coal and you, uh, you hate Greta Thunberg. 00:24:27.400 |
And like, I, but you know, I know if I were to call, you know, Trump a Nazi or Biden senile, 00:24:42.720 |
And so then what do you think happens when you go outside? 00:24:45.160 |
Is your brain trained to look for negative or is your brain trained to look for the good? 00:24:49.920 |
And it's like, yeah, man, it's going to be trained to look for the negative in the less 00:24:54.160 |
The more I actually do read books and the more I get out into nature and I meditate 00:24:57.600 |
and I just write to write, um, off social media. 00:25:01.560 |
Um, the more I'm like, yeah, man, there's a lot, even when I'm struggling, there's a 00:25:07.000 |
And that gratitude helps me with my mental health. 00:25:12.000 |
And that comes back to the key point, the number of people who are very online and giving 00:25:20.400 |
And the vast majority of the people do not think in their lives about, am I going to 00:25:28.160 |
Am I going to get pushed back about talking about taking fresh air? 00:25:31.760 |
I think that's, that's, that's what's so critical is how narrow, how narrow this is. 00:25:36.160 |
It, and you know, if you feel that same concern, it's just Twitter. 00:25:47.120 |
Like Sam doesn't need, he didn't need to be on Twitter. 00:25:49.040 |
Like he has his podcast, he loves it and he left. 00:25:58.880 |
I apologize to you, but now I'm in the cool standing spot. 00:26:04.560 |
You know, it must be nice to stand with your, tell those pirates that lost their legs and 00:26:10.080 |
cannonball accidents about all of your standing. 00:26:16.840 |
So again, cow and I, we don't, we talk about culture, we talk about what's being talked 00:26:23.320 |
about, but we don't need to make this a political show, but it's super interesting that you 00:26:29.680 |
brought up Sam Harris because I was on Twitter when Sam was canceled the most recently. 00:26:40.920 |
Sam's always talked about controversial things, but people on the right have actually really 00:26:48.320 |
And so he had this clip that went viral on a guy's show that I know that people are still 00:26:54.480 |
I know about this one because I, I saw Sam get interviewed, um, on Bill Mars podcast. 00:27:06.480 |
Our politically like fraught internet bingo card starting to fill up because we have Sam 00:27:13.920 |
These are all entering into, you've mentioned Jordan Peterson. 00:27:21.240 |
That should be the episode of this title or the title of today's episode. 00:27:27.160 |
But it's so fascinating what you just said, because I feel like me and you are reversed 00:27:33.040 |
So Sam gets off Twitter and every time I see Sam come up, it's, here's another one for 00:27:40.360 |
Like Glenn Greenwald just posted about him the other day being like, this is one of the 00:27:46.400 |
And again, doesn't matter how I feel about that. 00:27:50.320 |
But what's interesting is when Sam got off Twitter and I haven't seen Sam on Twitter, 00:27:55.520 |
um, and I've actually had nothing but lovely interactions, uh, with Sam, um, recently. 00:28:03.080 |
And that reminded me to tell you off air, cause I actually emailed him after this happened 00:28:11.400 |
No one respects Sam anymore because I'm just looking at my Twitter feed. 00:28:17.920 |
So in your mind, in your mind, he's like, he gave away his public status. 00:28:29.400 |
I mean, Andrew Huberman just popped up on my feed, the other, my podcast feed the other 00:28:34.240 |
day, Andrew Huberman, one of the biggest podcasts in the world. 00:28:38.520 |
And the topic isn't like disgraced neuro, whatever the topic is like meditation. 00:28:46.320 |
And they're probably just going to talk about his meditation app. 00:28:57.240 |
So interesting that happened on Twitter and he's not on it. 00:28:59.920 |
And in fact, he's probably going to be more successful, certainly going to be happier, 00:29:04.160 |
not being on Twitter and not, you know, it seems like he knew that was bad for him. 00:29:12.560 |
But literally until this, even when he popped up on Huberman's, my thought was, oh, Huberman's 00:29:26.720 |
So anyway, so that to me is really good news for me. 00:29:33.800 |
And I think that's what keeps people on is exactly how you felt about Sam. 00:29:42.640 |
I imagine like the first day after Sam left Twitter is like the scene at the end of the 00:29:48.280 |
40 year old virgin, you know, where he has sex for the first time. 00:29:51.240 |
And it's just like they're riding unicorns under like rainbows. 00:29:54.640 |
Like that's how I imagine his life is like him just like high fiving people and playing 00:29:59.800 |
And and also like it's so great because I mean, I've told you this. 00:30:05.160 |
I've gotten not bitter, but like there have been times where you've tried to help me, 00:30:13.640 |
whether it's with, you know, a project I'm working on or my podcast or whatever. 00:30:19.180 |
But it's always tied to I'm not happy on social media and please help me, Cal. 00:30:23.800 |
And you've tried to come up with ways like, hey, here's how you can promote your stuff, 00:30:27.360 |
but not experience the toxic parts of social media. 00:30:30.320 |
We talked about this on your podcast if you guys want to check that out. 00:30:34.280 |
And then there's always part of me that I'm like, cool, Cal, I'll be successful. 00:30:37.800 |
Get off social media if you can get me booked on Tim Ferriss's if you you know what I mean? 00:30:42.240 |
Because I'm like, well, it's easy for Cal because Cal did a fucking stupid TED talk 00:30:48.480 |
And so to hear this with Sam, because even now I was like before this 21 day fast, I 00:30:53.760 |
was like, man, but I have all these like really cool like coals in the fire and like these 00:31:00.000 |
projects that are about to take off and like, oh, if that big agent saw that I'm like off 00:31:04.040 |
social media for 21 days, what's he going to think? 00:31:09.040 |
And in fact, being off social media, this writing deadline I was on yesterday that I 00:31:13.400 |
thought was going to take me like a week or two, like I sent in in two days because I'm 00:31:18.240 |
just not aimlessly looking at my social media feed. 00:31:21.640 |
And I was writing and like, yeah, am I going to have to like promote? 00:31:26.720 |
But that doesn't mean that I need to be on social media all day. 00:31:30.520 |
And then Sam is like, what an awesome example, because, again, my Twitter feed, he's like 00:31:37.520 |
I don't I don't agree with everything he says, but it's like I like most of what he does. 00:31:49.820 |
I think just emphasizes if you're someone like in his position, most of the world has 00:31:55.320 |
They're like, you wrote that book about, you know, you do meditation and you were like 00:32:01.840 |
Yeah, you were an atheist guy and then you were a meditation guy. 00:32:05.840 |
And at the end, that's like nine percent of the world. 00:32:08.000 |
So I think use me, everyone use me as your barometer. 00:32:10.840 |
If I don't know about something, that means ninety nine percent of people because I'm 00:32:21.480 |
I just don't know what's happening on Twitter. 00:32:24.520 |
All right, let's do let's get another story here. 00:32:31.880 |
This is another story that was spreading a lot on the Internet this last week. 00:32:38.280 |
Leonardo DiCaprio living it up in a yacht in St. Bart dot dot dot with tons of chicks. 00:32:47.200 |
There is a picture of Leo living his best life. 00:32:53.520 |
With a there's a woman in a bikini, I suppose. 00:32:55.560 |
So this is a skinny Leo's kind of like chubby jacked, which I think they pick to be like, 00:33:00.240 |
he's not all there that but like he still looks jacked. 00:33:02.840 |
But if you look close, it's like, OK, he's getting older. 00:33:12.320 |
Like your gut will come back before you lose all your muscles. 00:33:16.120 |
I mean, I guess there's definition there, but it's being kind of like overrun. 00:33:24.000 |
Here's like a picture of him on a seat, a picture of the yacht he's on. 00:33:28.600 |
And TMZ is trying to figure out who some of the people are. 00:33:35.080 |
That's what you got out of this so much because you're right. 00:33:40.800 |
It's, you know, nowadays you go on Twitter and it's like there's a whistleblower at Twitter 00:33:50.080 |
We know Elon's on the side of the whistleblower and he took over Twitter and OK, somehow Matt 00:33:54.280 |
Taibbi and Barry Weiss are involved and old school paparazzi. 00:33:58.840 |
It was like, hey, there's a half naked chick on a boat. 00:34:01.880 |
You want to look at that and all with the fame and with a celebrity, with a celebrity. 00:34:05.800 |
And then we go, yes, I do want to look at that. 00:34:08.000 |
That kind of makes us feel like we're on a boat with a naked chick. 00:34:25.520 |
Once again, Cal, this no takes a sweetness that you have in your soul makes me happy. 00:34:33.560 |
And I wish it could just be like good for that guy. 00:34:38.960 |
Like you remember being a kid, I wish I could get on a boat. 00:34:41.640 |
And then you remember being a teenager and being like, I wish I could get a hot chick. 00:34:46.800 |
But also when we were teenagers, you know, it'd be typical tablet. 00:34:51.280 |
So it's like the young guys like, that's cool. 00:34:54.080 |
And then like our moms would be like, those women are too young. 00:34:58.000 |
And you know, but it would just be like, but it's it's an abstraction. 00:35:07.640 |
Our moms would be like, my wish I was on that boat with Leo. 00:35:12.920 |
But like, um, the, the problem is Leo in the last couple of years, if we're looking at 00:35:17.440 |
Twitter has been despised by the left or by there, I should say by very online people 00:35:28.240 |
And again, if you're a creep, if you're dating 18 year olds or whatever, like that's not 00:35:35.720 |
good, but also like, I don't know, man, 25 year olds are adults who are making that decision. 00:35:42.640 |
If it was like Leonardo DiCaprio is on a boat with five 25 year olds, he has chained to 00:35:49.240 |
And you can also talk about like, okay, there are a bunch of like older dudes who like, 00:35:56.380 |
you know, they're dating young chicks to feel whatever. 00:36:01.200 |
So you want to ideally be a good partner and you're not, you know, swapping out hot chicks 00:36:08.080 |
or cheating or we, we want to advocate you being a good person on the show. 00:36:21.040 |
Um, but I didn't even know that reaction was going on. 00:36:24.200 |
So you're saying the very online have, but that Leo 10 years ago was beloved by environmental 00:36:32.680 |
And then like a couple months ago he was trending for like a week where there was some story 00:36:38.040 |
that came out that like he broke up with a 25 year old and started dating another 25 00:36:47.320 |
And you know, I don't know, man, but, but, okay. 00:36:52.680 |
Or is this why this, why this is interesting to me because it's, it's two worlds and there's 00:36:59.040 |
Like there's, there's the world that's been around forever of old school celebrity and 00:37:09.000 |
It's like Leo as a one word thing and they're on a boat and whatever. 00:37:13.280 |
And we have paparazzi pictures and oh, we kind of care. 00:37:17.000 |
And then on the other side we have the very online world where everything seems to be, 00:37:19.720 |
you know, it's, it's very personal engagement. 00:37:22.860 |
It's very much like we are, we are all, uh, it's like a homogenized, we're all on the 00:37:30.600 |
It looks the same and we're all trying to like fight with each other. 00:37:36.280 |
Like you're not involved when you're reading TMZ. 00:37:40.840 |
But on Twitter it's like, yeah, you're in this world and me and my friends are coming 00:37:44.120 |
after you for the, and it's like a, you're in it. 00:37:46.800 |
Like how, if you were to see a trailer for a new Quentin Tarantino movie with Leonardo 00:37:51.280 |
DiCaprio, I assume you would be nothing but delighted. 00:37:56.520 |
Because you would go on Twitter and it's just like, oh, racist Quentin Tarantino. 00:38:01.640 |
Of course he gets, you know, womanizing Leonardo DiCaprio and you know, who's the lady in it? 00:38:07.720 |
Well, she had a problematic tweet from eight years ago. 00:38:14.800 |
I was listening to, oh, it was Bill Burr on Conan. 00:38:18.840 |
And Bill Burr made such a good point about Twitter where he said, you know, they'll find 00:38:25.040 |
someone's tweet from eight years ago where they go, oh, you're being a bad person eight 00:38:31.600 |
And it's like, yeah, but he had seven years of just being a good person. 00:38:37.000 |
He's like, that's like a Lou Gehrig type record of being a good person. 00:38:43.080 |
And this goes back to the Lex thing, which goes back to the whole premise of this show. 00:38:55.640 |
And if some good news comes out there every time and a new SNL cast there gets announced, 00:39:02.520 |
instead of people being like, oh, good for him. 00:39:04.160 |
Oh, we're going to see some new comedic voices. 00:39:09.160 |
There's just these slimy journalists just digging through 15 years of tweets to find 00:39:14.520 |
something problematic instead of what we should all be doing is like applauding people. 00:39:20.540 |
If we disagree with people, don't follow them. 00:39:23.960 |
And then trying to make ourself the best person we can be. 00:39:28.600 |
And we're just not incentivized to do that on social media. 00:39:30.520 |
We should all be on a boat with hot chicks and Leonardo DiCaprio is what I'm saying. 00:39:36.280 |
But in this scenario, I would be talking to him about the cinematography from The Revenant, 00:39:45.400 |
Real thing, natural light filmed with wide angle prime lenses that are put in. 00:39:57.580 |
I'm going to let me just be like looking back at the girls being like, cool. 00:40:05.700 |
It's like, let's talk about let's talk about the five millimeter fix that you were using 00:40:11.100 |
You'd be like, all right, Carl, get on this boat. 00:40:25.000 |
I want to talk about the use of CGI in the Buffalo scene. 00:40:32.240 |
The girls are all being like shuffled onto the emergency escape. 00:40:42.240 |
Here's a reverse hot take, though, is OK, but we're looking at TMZ. 00:40:47.920 |
That's basically unchanged from when we were kids. 00:40:52.080 |
Celebrity boat, like maybe, you know, with girlfriends or something like that. 00:41:00.040 |
This helps emphasize why this culture, which we have all these issues with, but why it 00:41:04.960 |
persists is because TMZ, that's also boring, right? 00:41:10.200 |
It's like, OK, like this guy's fat, like that kind of makes me know he's a star. 00:41:19.240 |
Maybe we don't need these overcomplicated books. 00:41:21.600 |
Maybe we just need to read some simple stuff that makes us happy, because look what we 00:41:29.560 |
Where, yeah, when you compare to like the Twitter files and you do like a TMZ, it is 00:41:33.760 |
very funny just to be like, there's a girl on a boat and I could see her belly button 00:41:52.080 |
And I'm just talking pure viral dynamics here. 00:41:54.080 |
So even putting aside any sort of value judgment, it's like an interesting insight into why 00:41:58.560 |
this is such an effective attention capturing machine for the people who get captured to 00:42:04.040 |
Like in the early 90s, there's a version of TMZ where like they called you up, you 00:42:08.600 |
know, like, hey, like, Cal, we got this footage, like, here's Leo, like, what's your take 00:42:13.360 |
Like you're in that room from the old syndicated TMZ TV show. 00:42:16.400 |
Where the guy had like the big cup of soda, like the giant cup. 00:42:21.640 |
And they're all like in there, like, what stories do you have? 00:42:23.120 |
And like, you are in there, you'd be like, this is awesome. 00:42:27.640 |
And you'd be like, I think those women look too young. 00:42:29.720 |
And like someone else high fives you would be great. 00:42:32.560 |
So it simulates that for hundreds of thousands of people. 00:42:34.840 |
You all feel like you're in the proverbial TMZ room. 00:42:37.880 |
I'm just saying to give some insight into why for the people who fall into the Twitter 00:42:42.360 |
culture, it is so magnetic because it was better from just a pure stripped of any actual 00:42:50.900 |
value evaluation, stripped of any judgment on whether this makes your life better or 00:42:54.400 |
not, because spoiler alert, it makes your life worse, much worse stripped of all of 00:42:59.520 |
So it's like an engagement engine like we haven't seen since what the Coliseum where 00:43:05.040 |
it's like they're going to release these tigers on the Christians now. 00:43:10.800 |
He was like looking around, you know, I get to like give a thumbs up down. 00:43:14.520 |
Like it's I see why it's so this is a perfect to me. 00:43:17.600 |
It's a perfect example of why, you know, this company was worth $40 billion when Musk bought 00:43:25.600 |
I don't know if it's too early to go into our new idea for a closing segment. 00:43:32.220 |
But so you know, I for the first time, and we've recorded a couple of these completely 00:43:38.320 |
spaced out during your last speech, and just without realizing I'm doing our last segment, 00:43:44.080 |
I just started fantasizing about living in the woods. 00:43:46.920 |
Like I literally just as you were talking about, like comparing TMZ to Twitter, I was 00:43:59.000 |
I go to the woods, and that's where I live forever. 00:44:05.280 |
I have I teach my daughters how to go get eggs from the chickens that we raise. 00:44:16.000 |
So let me call that he's long lived in West Texas. 00:44:18.760 |
You got to be careful down there what you call a ranch. 00:44:22.040 |
You cannot call I mean, he has hundreds of acres with cattle on it. 00:44:29.180 |
You're going to get run over by a Ford F-150. 00:44:38.020 |
But anyways, I'm just saying, get your ranch. 00:44:40.920 |
To be fair, if Ryan Holiday walks into West Texas and talks about his 10 acre ranch, stoicism 00:44:48.080 |
or not, there's going to be like a six shooter. 00:44:51.180 |
My ranch of a bookstore, the front porch, that's like a ranchers. 00:44:55.360 |
No, I was going to call mine a compound of refuge. 00:45:00.040 |
Definitely does not sound like a militia group type of situation. 00:45:03.840 |
Yeah, yeah, that is that's definitely the show. 00:45:08.040 |
But you know, Tucker Max has a new podcast about he went that route where he's just like 00:45:13.400 |
teaching himself how to like live off the land with his family. 00:45:17.040 |
And he's like, yeah, man, all that stuff I thought I needed before. 00:45:21.720 |
And it is very interesting that I believe social media is a huge part in it. 00:45:27.000 |
It's pushing a lot of us back to what would be seen as like very old school traditional. 00:45:32.320 |
Oh, yeah, I'm just like, yeah, I want to farm in a family and God, Mike, fuck, just said 00:45:44.360 |
No, if there's no Twitter, it'd be like, I don't know, like I'm into some punk bands 00:45:46.360 |
and in the art, like it's probably actually bad. 00:45:52.480 |
And like, you know, but but because it causes like a reactionary immune response of of I 00:45:58.280 |
need to get away from purified cultures represented online. 00:46:03.000 |
I wonder if it's created an issue where it's just bringing people out of other types of 00:46:06.880 |
Like I'm into this like interesting art or new music movement because it causes a reactionary 00:46:13.700 |
It's like, I'm just going to go whittle like I don't want to have anything to do with like 00:46:17.560 |
So like stuff that's actually not online, but modern and interesting, you know, new 00:46:20.680 |
types of theater, this or that maybe brings us back to Tumblr and the ponies, Tumblr and 00:46:27.120 |
Let's do a couple let's do a couple happier ones here. 00:46:37.440 |
So this is this is a this is one of the most watched videos on YouTube. 00:46:46.400 |
I just glanced at that and I literally thought you were like, let's do some happier stories. 00:46:49.960 |
And I thought it was like a cross burning on like a front lawn. 00:46:52.640 |
And I was like, hey, bud, you're trying to get canceled here. 00:47:00.040 |
OK, so this is it's hard to see, but this had eighty eight million views in just a few 00:47:07.760 |
Do I have to because I want to find like what's popular on YouTube. 00:47:14.200 |
So he has the most subscribers of anyone on YouTube. 00:47:17.680 |
It's one of the most popular videos on YouTube. 00:47:19.400 |
The title here is Hydraulic Press versus Lamborghini. 00:47:31.560 |
Isn't that just this is emblematic, by the way, of the whole. 00:47:36.240 |
I think they're literally just crushing a car. 00:47:41.740 |
We have to do a whole episode, by the way, on on YouTube ads because they're so good 00:47:55.280 |
He always gets on my act about this because we have a YouTube channel for our podcast 00:47:58.360 |
and he's like, you're not paying the like two dollars a month to not have to watch ads. 00:48:02.400 |
You're on because every time like, hey, let me show you something, you know, in the clip. 00:48:08.040 |
But if you're if you're watching, there's a two hundred thousand dollar car being crushed 00:48:21.620 |
But look, my heart rate's not up like there's nothing about this that's like, OK, who's 00:48:31.740 |
Because, again, the YouTube algorithm, it it prioritizes and incentivizes you to have 00:48:43.800 |
Everyone watches to watch the Lamborghini gets crashed. 00:48:45.620 |
So there's ten minutes or nine minutes and 40 seconds of not that of just like total 00:48:53.120 |
And by the way, I don't want to say anything about Mr. B. Someone told me recently that 00:48:56.100 |
he does like charity stuff, which like that would be cool. 00:49:04.860 |
I hadn't either until my podcast producer told me about him because he's the I guess 00:49:13.900 |
All I know is from what I understand is he's much more popular than us. 00:49:18.220 |
He's a little bit more popular, a little bit more. 00:49:20.500 |
But yeah, it's a I like I like to think of us as peers. 00:49:24.460 |
So our our friend, Mr. B's, our fellow YouTuber. 00:49:28.780 |
I love what people do, though, like, you know, maybe I should I should have called him, you 00:49:33.820 |
know, like maybe had him on the show next time. 00:49:35.780 |
You know, that move where you act like you really could do that. 00:49:38.380 |
Like, yeah, like maybe we should next time we'll have the beast master. 00:49:42.860 |
But what I understand is he took like a formula that was working on like, hey, this works 00:49:48.000 |
well for YouTube and just pushed it times one hundred. 00:49:50.980 |
Well, and I'll see stuff like that where I'm like, it's like guy does a flip or like car 00:49:57.260 |
thing does it and I'm just like, who watches this? 00:50:04.500 |
And they all have like matching wacky thumbnails and all these things. 00:50:08.340 |
And what's so frustrating for me is to be vulnerable that I'll have these moments where 00:50:14.900 |
people are big producers are talking to me about thumbnails and you just got to do this. 00:50:19.700 |
And I'm just like, no, that's fucking stupid. 00:50:23.860 |
And then I stay at the exact same place I'm at. 00:50:27.820 |
Do Cal and I have to crush a fucking Lamborghini to get this show bigger? 00:50:43.660 |
Like no one's being this is not like I crush a Lamborghini because it's racist. 00:50:48.540 |
You know, he's just like crushing a Lamborghini. 00:50:50.860 |
I mean, this is like, well, what happened if we crush? 00:51:05.740 |
We're about to figure out now that I was actually a terrible person. 00:51:15.500 |
He's credited with pioneering a genre of YouTube videos that centers around expensive stunts. 00:51:30.180 |
Eighty percent of that money is going to charity, not fucking. 00:51:40.620 |
I think I think what I've heard is he spins out like he has. 00:51:48.180 |
Like from what I understand, like he's of YouTube. 00:51:51.060 |
He's like he's in the he's like an agent of his whole existence, I think, has merged with 00:52:00.140 |
I think he just does this like his whole life. 00:52:07.740 |
I want to listen to at least he was probably on at least one of our friends podcasts. 00:52:12.020 |
Well, here's what I saw when I was finding when I was looking to find a tweet about Lex 00:52:17.980 |
The more recent tweet from like yesterday from Lex was a picture of Lex and Mr. Beast. 00:52:34.860 |
The two old men try to figure out the Internet. 00:52:37.540 |
We have to yell to like our like a ten or my ten year old son, Max, the thing is doing 00:52:46.140 |
I got to hang out with Mr. Beast yesterday and discuss some fascinating ideas about the 00:52:53.280 |
So like all of you would say like now I have to dislike Mr. Beast or how's that work? 00:52:58.240 |
Is it if you're the interviewer or you have on old me already disliked Mr. Beast and I'm 00:53:04.460 |
like talking myself out of it live on this show. 00:53:06.980 |
Old me already dislike Mr. Beast because of just assumptions from like thumbnails, success 00:53:14.240 |
And I'm just like, well, we could have fed the homeless if we sold that Lamborghini or 00:53:18.180 |
And and then I would see that Lex had him on that would confirm that he's a bad person. 00:53:29.540 |
His book of his list of books is dumb and I hate him. 00:53:36.460 |
So like let's say me going on Joe Rogan's podcast versus having Joe Rogan as a guest 00:53:43.240 |
So are you more culpable for interviewing someone versus being interviewed or does it 00:53:50.820 |
So for me, the old version of me, I would probably be more mad at you for going on his 00:53:56.300 |
show because if you are interviewing him, you can like try to hold him accountable or 00:54:02.620 |
But modern day people got really mad at Joe for having Alex Jones on and people got really 00:54:10.940 |
So now I think it's kind of like equally both, but before it was like if you went on Rogan's 00:54:19.820 |
and this is, I feel like a year ago, but it's also like Rogan had like Bernie Sanders on. 00:54:27.260 |
And to me now it's like I go on, I go on platforms that are more right wing than me. 00:54:32.860 |
Like I go on Glen Beck's a lot and the bottom line is like, well, I get my message out to 00:54:36.620 |
a bunch of people who wouldn't have listened to me otherwise. 00:54:39.460 |
And I get to learn a bunch of things that I wouldn't have learned because I'm talking 00:54:42.820 |
to someone sort of like outside of my network. 00:54:45.220 |
And most importantly, you find out you actually have more in common with most people you think 00:54:55.300 |
Like when I have people who get mad at me for going on a show they disagree with, I 00:55:00.580 |
Aren't you happy that this person you like supposedly me gets to go on in front of these 00:55:10.620 |
And then they're like, no, because we were already given our commands. 00:55:17.460 |
I'm bringing a message you would like to a new audience and maybe that would change. 00:55:21.420 |
No, because it's not actually about the message. 00:55:23.700 |
It's just about like people turning humanity into a video game. 00:55:31.060 |
But also that like long segment you did on Glenn show where you got out the chalkboard 00:55:33.700 |
and began sketching out the great reset or whatever. 00:55:36.660 |
I sketched out specifically the January six attacks. 00:55:42.020 |
And look, I'm not, I don't want to judge just based on what show you go on, but when you 00:55:46.460 |
were showing like the, the barrier, you know, that whole plan with the barriers over here 00:55:50.140 |
are weaker and, and you know, it's a bad look. 00:55:59.060 |
I want our show to get so popular Cal that like we have, you know, and like people will 00:56:05.220 |
I'm like, I desperately want someone to draw the chalkboard. 00:56:12.460 |
I mean, you'll be on a list, but here's how I've learned. 00:56:14.860 |
Here's what I've learned just now looking at Mr. B's very popular channel. 00:56:26.220 |
Well, now we get to know it's just, it's a passion project. 00:56:32.900 |
It's me, you, my producer, and like a few people who are yelling at us. 00:56:40.820 |
Our new thing for the, I want the very last thing when possible just to be, I'm interested, 00:56:42.900 |
a meme and my, my motto for a meme being popular is that it was if it came over like my family's 00:56:56.660 |
It's a little out of date now, but there we go. 00:57:03.820 |
If you're watching, it's one of those captures where you have to select all the speakers 00:57:07.180 |
in a picture and there's a bunch of stairs speakers and two pictures of Kevin McCarthy 00:57:17.940 |
I was on Twitter during the Kevin McCarthy thing and I made one joke about it and it 00:57:23.620 |
seemed to have brought both parties together. 00:57:25.620 |
Once in a while you've got a politician that will unite people just from their hatred. 00:57:30.300 |
You know, I feel like a Beto a little bit now, Kevin McCarthy, everyone's just like, 00:57:42.180 |
So let's pass budget reconciliation as long as we're together on that. 00:57:51.020 |
Well, I do like, I do like the idea of a meme, an episode bringing us together. 00:57:54.660 |
I was going to say someone sent me something via email that was going around on the Internet 00:58:02.420 |
I don't, I don't have it here, but I'd love to me. 00:58:04.460 |
What makes the meme funny is just, I love just a straight. 00:58:08.540 |
You have a straight lay straight face picture in an absurd thing. 00:58:11.660 |
Someone sent me a cover of a magazine from Rachel. 00:58:20.140 |
But the, the, the message on the meme was like, why commas are important. 00:58:24.740 |
And it's like a real headline where it said like Rachel Ray finds inspiration in cooking 00:58:33.460 |
And they didn't have the, they didn't have the a comma. 00:58:37.020 |
It just kind of looked like she was going to eat her dog. 00:58:44.500 |
Well, because you have to go, ah, silly internet. 00:58:46.420 |
And then, you know, that dog's not getting eaten. 00:58:59.900 |
Internet more of that internet as email cow memes about being eaten. 00:59:07.500 |
And we'll, we'll, maybe we'll feature your meme on the show. 00:59:09.580 |
Oh, you can also send us now that I'm on this fast. 00:59:12.260 |
You can also send us articles you want us to talk about or leave it in the comments in 00:59:17.420 |
Because, uh, again, I think that's why the show is funny, but we're the two worst people 00:59:24.420 |
So if you like the show, spread the word about the show. 00:59:26.860 |
Um, I usually say to follow me on social media, but don't subscribe to my sub stack. 00:59:32.620 |
Read my writing, Jamie kilstein.substack.com and my mental health comedy podcast advice 00:59:37.780 |
You can go to Jamie kilstein.com or you can go over to youtube.com/Jamie kilstein. 00:59:45.460 |
And let me just, let me just briefly plug Jamie's sub stack. 00:59:48.660 |
He had a piece that was actually why good internet, because it was widely spread on 00:59:53.300 |
Um, a really good piece about depression and suicidality and, and, you know, uh, how things 01:00:02.920 |
So, uh, and I think it's important to emphasize like you really are coming at this from a 01:00:09.140 |
I mean, you're a comedian, but also you've, you help a lot of people with mental health. 01:00:14.700 |
And so, you know, you see it through that perspective where I see it more through the 01:00:17.460 |
perspective of I'm just baffled in an old man. 01:00:22.020 |
Give me the memes, give Cal memes about mental health. 01:00:24.020 |
I want an animated gif, uh, yeah, an animated gif that I can download from an FTP server. 01:00:33.500 |
Um, for real guys, like I think with the mental health stuff, I try to talk about it in a 01:00:40.900 |
I didn't know I was helping as many people as I was. 01:00:43.540 |
Um, but it's, it's because I'm, I'm not an expert and I'm going through it with you guys. 01:00:49.460 |
Um, and I, I, I'm making sure not to like talk down, you know, you read some self help 01:00:54.300 |
stuff that's like, Oh, I just, I go on my cold plunge every morning and then I, and 01:01:01.380 |
Um, whereas I'm like, I'm fucking, I need health insurance. 01:01:11.900 |
And I've been in a cold plunge this entire episode. 01:01:18.540 |
I have been in a cold plunge and I've been holding a kettlebell in my right arm this 01:01:22.580 |
whole, this whole time because that's my bow pulling arm. 01:01:32.540 |
So anyways, we're going to crush the Lamborghini and then we're out of here. 01:01:39.180 |
We'll be back with some more internet culture and until then stay offline.