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BFM Retreat 2017 - Session 4


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00:00:04.000 | What's going on, fam?
00:00:05.000 | >> Hi.
00:00:06.240 | >> How are you guys?
00:00:07.800 | >> Good, good.
00:00:09.480 | >> Yeah, well, again, just thank you guys so much for
00:00:13.240 | the way you guys just made me feel welcome, family.
00:00:17.680 | I don't skip a beat coming here.
00:00:20.080 | I just don't.
00:00:20.760 | Every single time that I'm with you guys as a family, I just feel just that.
00:00:24.600 | So it's been really good to see familiar faces and to meet new faces.
00:00:30.600 | I'm just really encouraged by what God is doing through this ministry,
00:00:34.760 | through you guys' families.
00:00:36.480 | So just keep pressing on, by the grace of God,
00:00:39.320 | he's doing some wonderful things along the way.
00:00:42.320 | Again, I'm gonna try not to, I always try to not be too long,
00:00:48.360 | but again, you guys are your namesake as Marines.
00:00:53.400 | And so I really appreciate just the way you guys just engage,
00:00:58.240 | the way you guys engage.
00:01:00.320 | I see it, it encourages me as I'm preaching.
00:01:04.320 | And I came across something, and so I thought maybe I would kinda share it.
00:01:09.320 | So a little, I didn't anticipate doing this, so
00:01:11.760 | it's kind of a break from me just jumping into my message and my sermon.
00:01:16.400 | But I just wanted to read this.
00:01:18.320 | It's an article that was on Desire to God that just came up.
00:01:23.280 | And it's an edition of Screwtape.
00:01:26.360 | Have you guys read the Screwtape letters?
00:01:28.560 | Maybe Screwtape, okay.
00:01:30.480 | And so this is a female demon, if you will.
00:01:34.400 | And this is just for my ladies, for the wives.
00:01:38.840 | Maybe the Lord wants to say something through this, and
00:01:40.920 | I'm not really sure, but I'm just gonna read it.
00:01:45.280 | And the demon's name is Lilith.
00:01:49.960 | And the head female demon, her name is Duessa,
00:01:55.520 | she's writing a letter to this demon called Lilith.
00:02:00.480 | She says, it's lovely to hear from you, darling.
00:02:02.480 | I'm very glad you wrote to me.
00:02:06.080 | Screwtape, poor thing, he does his best.
00:02:09.480 | But he doesn't understand the feminine perspective.
00:02:12.280 | Of course, that doesn't stop him from acting as if he knows everything.
00:02:16.320 | And I've told him once, and if I've told him a thousand times,
00:02:19.040 | I'm persuaded that we will fare much more comfortably if we keep this just
00:02:23.200 | between us girls.
00:02:25.160 | My understanding is that you've been assigned several perplexing cases to
00:02:28.880 | handle simultaneously.
00:02:30.760 | You must be exhausted.
00:02:32.440 | Those ridiculous secretaries and
00:02:33.800 | headquarters have the least notion of how to manage job assignments.
00:02:37.280 | And I have no idea how they came to be allowed to run anything.
00:02:41.040 | I'm writing you today to discuss discontent.
00:02:44.920 | Now, it doesn't matter what particular topic of discontent fascinates to.
00:02:49.280 | Just look for any little nook or cranny in their souls where you can insert
00:02:53.840 | the seed of discontent, making sure that they take root.
00:02:59.080 | With some women, it may be best to plant the seeds of discontent somewhere
00:03:03.320 | around the topic of their looks, their face, their weight, their figure.
00:03:10.000 | If in the off chance that doesn't seem to take latch onto the topic,
00:03:14.480 | then of relationships.
00:03:16.560 | Discontent with the husband, discontent with the lack of a husband,
00:03:20.840 | discontent with the children, discontent with the lack of children.
00:03:24.720 | The seeds of discontent can grow in any kind of soil,
00:03:29.720 | which is what makes it so effective.
00:03:31.520 | It can really be anything.
00:03:35.440 | Missed opportunities, wrong done to them in their past, failed ambitions.
00:03:41.680 | All of these are good options for where to start.
00:03:44.680 | The first step with each of you girls is to find just a cozy little something
00:03:50.880 | to make them unhappy and then tend it.
00:03:55.440 | Tending means that you need to keep them concentrated on the thing itself,
00:04:00.480 | while keeping them from noticing the state of their own soul.
00:04:05.240 | Keep them looking at their husband's failings.
00:04:08.720 | He just doesn't seem to even care about my needs.
00:04:12.240 | And now their own heart.
00:04:13.920 | Keep them looking in the mirror, if you will.
00:04:17.960 | Obviously, this means that you need to keep away from the enemy's book.
00:04:22.480 | If it happens that you can't keep them from the book completely,
00:04:25.720 | you can effectively turn it to your advantage by simply making sure
00:04:30.280 | to keep all their thoughts focused on how their husband isn't living up
00:04:35.320 | to the instructions in the book.
00:04:38.440 | They can serve your purpose very well.
00:04:42.040 | And it's not at all a bad thing if you can get them to talk about their discontent
00:04:45.720 | with their friends, provided, of course, that they are the right friends.
00:04:50.680 | You want to encourage friendships that will feed and pet the discontent,
00:04:55.760 | rather than uproot it.
00:04:58.200 | Even prayer groups and mentorships are fabulous places for this to happen,
00:05:03.360 | if you manage it correctly.
00:05:06.160 | Once you have the discontent well-established and flourishing,
00:05:09.360 | you have a perfectly easy job ahead of you.
00:05:12.320 | You can take discontent any number of directions.
00:05:16.640 | And it only requires a little bit of creativity.
00:05:20.160 | Think of discontent as a small spark.
00:05:22.920 | You just need to get it planted into a welcoming little pile of shavings
00:05:27.120 | somewhere, and soon enough, it spreads.
00:05:31.400 | Let's say you get one of your subjects solidly discontent
00:05:34.080 | with the state of her marriage.
00:05:36.240 | It will take a little effort on your part
00:05:38.160 | to direct her attention to other marriages that
00:05:40.440 | seem better than hers.
00:05:42.600 | From there, you can easily fan it into full-blown envy
00:05:46.520 | of her friends or sister.
00:05:48.600 | And if you can't turn that into a ruined friendship,
00:05:52.400 | then I wash my hands of you.
00:05:54.800 | Lies, backbiting, cheating, refusals to forgive
00:05:58.600 | all are easily attainable once you have discontent well-established.
00:06:04.760 | One of my favorite places to go, however, is bitterness.
00:06:07.760 | It's so deliciously long-term, and it's very gratifying
00:06:10.800 | to watch a subject get more and more shriveled with it.
00:06:14.320 | It lacks the spectacular showiness of adultery, of course,
00:06:18.080 | but it's often more rewarding in the long run.
00:06:21.440 | If you overplay your head and you steer your subject
00:06:23.880 | into something obvious like adultery, then it's
00:06:26.880 | all too easy for them to suddenly to repent.
00:06:30.520 | And then all your hard work is undone.
00:06:32.120 | But bitterness?
00:06:34.240 | It achieves all the same results, but far more dependably.
00:06:39.800 | Make her discontent.
00:06:41.640 | Convince her that she's not worth anything.
00:06:44.040 | And then drive her into all kinds of self-destructive tendencies.
00:06:48.120 | Enslave her to beauty.
00:06:49.640 | Leave her discontent to hold the whip that makes her run.
00:06:52.680 | And if you can drive her into a profound self-absorption
00:06:55.560 | and pride, then you will be able to sit back and feel
00:06:58.560 | satisfied with your work.
00:07:01.160 | The irony is that the suiting women never
00:07:03.600 | seem to notice that whether they obsess over their own beauty
00:07:07.320 | or intentionally harm themselves,
00:07:09.640 | it's all the same to us.
00:07:11.760 | We win either way.
00:07:14.520 | As always, give my love to that old, busy body
00:07:17.360 | shmoo-tay, your affectionate auntie, Joessa.
00:07:25.280 | If that ministered to you, let it minister.
00:07:28.360 | Leave you women just feeling some measures of discontent.
00:07:32.280 | I just want you to be aware of that.
00:07:34.040 | It's going on in your own minds and your own hearts.
00:07:36.160 | And maybe the devil may be trying
00:07:37.800 | to use some area of discontent in your life
00:07:40.920 | to come in and just create those shavings that build up
00:07:44.640 | until finally he just brings you to a place
00:07:47.040 | of utter bitterness.
00:07:48.680 | So I just thought I'd read that.
00:07:50.960 | Well, this is the final time, the final message.
00:07:54.920 | We will be going through.
00:07:57.240 | We've talked about the word of God.
00:08:00.720 | And from the word of God, just talking
00:08:03.520 | about the whole idea of marriage in light of eternity.
00:08:06.800 | We talked about Ephesians chapter 5.
00:08:09.080 | And so my first sermon can be summed up like this.
00:08:12.000 | Marriage was never made to feel those voids and annoy.
00:08:15.160 | It's not mainly for intimacy.
00:08:16.680 | Children are a way to avoid.
00:08:18.640 | Lonely nights with his shining armor,
00:08:20.720 | its meaning goes deeper into infinite water.
00:08:23.280 | A metaphor, a drama that's not known by many.
00:08:26.400 | And those who do, as the years grow hard,
00:08:28.440 | they lose their memory of the infinite picture displayed.
00:08:31.840 | The greatest act of love that raised Jesus' bones up
00:08:34.480 | out of the grave to save his bride, the church in his way,
00:08:38.400 | that none of us could have imagined.
00:08:40.440 | Ever increasing joy in his presence forever is our mansion.
00:08:44.360 | And that's why God is giving you a union, life and breath,
00:08:47.360 | so you can breathe that picture into everything
00:08:50.240 | until your final breath.
00:08:51.720 | So men, fight to play the role of Jesus
00:08:54.640 | and love, shove self out of the way
00:08:57.520 | so that we can see the gospel and living color on display.
00:09:00.920 | And ladies, fight to respect this man,
00:09:03.360 | no matter how far he falls short,
00:09:05.360 | that we might be able to see through your union
00:09:07.600 | what it looks like for the church of Christ on bended knee.
00:09:12.520 | That's sermon number one.
00:09:13.760 | - Love.
00:09:14.600 | (audience laughing)
00:09:17.600 | - The second sermon, we talked about sex.
00:09:20.440 | That's it.
00:09:21.280 | (audience laughing)
00:09:24.280 | Next sermon.
00:09:27.440 | We did, I had some good conversation.
00:09:29.160 | I appreciated all the affirmations.
00:09:30.760 | It really felt like, again, I was kind of like,
00:09:33.040 | I don't know, but just as I've been hearing more feedback,
00:09:36.040 | God is doing some good things in that arena,
00:09:37.880 | and I'm so glad.
00:09:39.560 | The other, the next one we talked about
00:09:41.320 | is just the role of friendship
00:09:42.840 | and how that really is what cultivates a happy marriage.
00:09:45.840 | And so now we're gonna talk about
00:09:49.080 | direction, decision-making in light of eternity
00:09:53.120 | when it comes to your marriage.
00:09:55.120 | Decision-making in light of eternity.
00:10:00.080 | I was in the car with my kids just probably a few weeks ago,
00:10:04.920 | and in the back, all of a sudden,
00:10:07.280 | I heard them discussing and asking,
00:10:09.600 | one of my kids, my daughter, asked the question,
00:10:12.480 | well, what's my sign?
00:10:15.000 | I mean, there's some game she was playing on her phone,
00:10:17.840 | and well, the good pastor that I am,
00:10:20.320 | I started casting out all the demons in my car,
00:10:23.080 | and out of the demons, out of my daughter's iPod,
00:10:26.000 | and then I told them, never ever again
00:10:28.440 | ask nobody about your sign,
00:10:30.120 | and don't tell nobody your sign,
00:10:31.680 | 'cause that's just devil stuff.
00:10:33.560 | We probably all in this room know our sign.
00:10:38.360 | Orlando Sayre, in his book, Big God,
00:10:40.840 | he writes that over 60% of people in the Western world
00:10:43.880 | read the horoscope.
00:10:45.720 | Women are three times more likely than men
00:10:47.720 | to consult their horoscope,
00:10:49.560 | and only half of those are young adults.
00:10:52.560 | Now, why is this?
00:10:54.040 | Because we all wanna know, especially in life,
00:10:58.600 | what we're supposed to do in life-altering decisions.
00:11:02.160 | What is the best course, the most vital
00:11:05.800 | and vibrant decision that we can make?
00:11:08.680 | And many times, it's because we wanna avoid pain, suffering,
00:11:11.480 | or to maximize our happiness in some area of life.
00:11:16.400 | Should I give more or save for eternity?
00:11:20.440 | Should we adopt a child?
00:11:22.280 | Should I pursue a different vocation?
00:11:24.520 | Should we homeschool?
00:11:25.600 | Should I pursue chemo
00:11:26.960 | or try an alternate alternative cancer treatment?
00:11:29.800 | Should we buy this home or a less expensive one?
00:11:32.000 | Is it time for me to put my elderly parents, perhaps,
00:11:34.480 | in a nursing home?
00:11:35.480 | Should I go to the mission field?
00:11:37.120 | Should I separate from my spouse
00:11:38.720 | while we work on these painful issues?
00:11:41.680 | We all have decisions that we make on a daily basis,
00:11:44.920 | small and large.
00:11:47.120 | And we as Christians can almost have our own
00:11:50.720 | superstitious approaches to hearing the voice of God.
00:11:55.720 | One thing we like to do as God,
00:11:59.960 | I need an answer here, so show me a sign.
00:12:02.680 | Back in the day, when I was, again,
00:12:05.800 | the '90s dad that I am, listened to hip hop,
00:12:08.800 | and one of the icons of hip hop vehicles was the acura.
00:12:12.920 | They call it the ac, and baseballs have got an ac
00:12:15.720 | and something with nicks on the back
00:12:17.160 | or something like that in the back of the day.
00:12:18.720 | I didn't used to listen to baseball.
00:12:20.480 | (audience laughing)
00:12:23.640 | And so acuras were just these prized kind of things
00:12:27.200 | in the hip hop community.
00:12:28.760 | And so I was dating, I started to date a friend
00:12:33.560 | that I had known for years when I was little
00:12:35.680 | and we started dating.
00:12:37.040 | And when I called her, we kind of talked
00:12:39.680 | and said, "Let's meet up."
00:12:40.520 | And she drove up in an acura.
00:12:43.520 | And I said, "Lord, that's a sign.
00:12:45.360 | (audience laughing)
00:12:46.200 | "This is the woman that you want me to marry."
00:12:48.800 | Well, praise the Lord that I did marry that woman.
00:12:51.680 | God had something much better for me.
00:12:54.120 | But we kind of can take those superstitious approaches
00:12:57.080 | to hearing the voice of God when it comes to decision making.
00:13:00.600 | And Orlando Sayre, he gives some real characteristic ones
00:13:05.560 | that we use as Christians.
00:13:06.760 | One, the door.
00:13:09.720 | God opened the door.
00:13:12.280 | If it worked out easily, then we figure that it's the Lord.
00:13:16.240 | Another one that we use is the fleece.
00:13:19.040 | An attempt to basically ask God to kind of jump
00:13:21.280 | through some hoops like Gideon.
00:13:23.760 | And that's held out as a positive model
00:13:26.320 | for decision making.
00:13:27.800 | Another one that we as Christians use is peace.
00:13:31.880 | Well, I just felt peace about it.
00:13:34.440 | I chose to look into some subjective kind of state of mind
00:13:37.520 | to reassure myself that the reason why I'm doing what I'm
00:13:40.600 | doing, even though it's unclear, it affirms it because,
00:13:43.400 | hey, I got peace.
00:13:45.560 | And then we have the whole Russian roulette
00:13:48.200 | when it comes to Bible verses.
00:13:50.600 | We use that to justify a course of decision based
00:13:54.040 | on some verse that we kind of just planned,
00:13:56.040 | and there it is.
00:13:57.960 | Now, if we don't get any of these signs
00:13:59.880 | from these different things, then we end up kind of saying,
00:14:02.040 | well, I'm just waiting on the Lord.
00:14:04.200 | That's the spiritual answer.
00:14:05.160 | I'm waiting on the Lord.
00:14:06.080 | I'm waiting on the Lord.
00:14:06.960 | So here's the danger in some of these approaches.
00:14:09.320 | And I'm not saying they're all entirely biblical,
00:14:11.720 | but the door.
00:14:13.440 | God does indeed close doors.
00:14:15.560 | Paul tried many times to go to Rome.
00:14:18.320 | He was prevented, it says in Romans 1, verse 13.
00:14:21.720 | But he did not give up the first time
00:14:24.560 | because he didn't see the first time failure as a permanent no
00:14:28.400 | to a closed door.
00:14:29.960 | On the other hand, the earthquake in Philippi
00:14:33.040 | gave Paul a literal open door to escape from prison
00:14:37.440 | in Acts chapter 16.
00:14:38.920 | And he could have just stepped and walked out,
00:14:40.840 | but what did he do?
00:14:41.800 | He didn't go through the open door.
00:14:43.440 | He stayed in that prison.
00:14:44.600 | And because he stayed in that prison,
00:14:46.320 | the guard and his entire family came to know the Lord.
00:14:50.320 | So it was actually the opening door
00:14:51.920 | that he should not have gone out of.
00:14:53.760 | What about the fleece?
00:14:55.280 | I'm not saying that God doesn't give us signs
00:14:57.120 | when it comes to decision making,
00:14:58.640 | that he might choose to order events and circumstances
00:15:01.880 | in such a way that we just know, man, this is the hand of God.
00:15:06.520 | But seeking out a display like that
00:15:09.840 | is not the way the scripture advises for us
00:15:12.840 | when it comes to decision making.
00:15:14.560 | It's not the norm.
00:15:16.760 | We are not encouraged to actually imitate Gideon.
00:15:22.000 | In fact, Gideon had already heard from the Lord.
00:15:27.840 | And he demonstrated, actually, a lack of faith in God
00:15:33.080 | by saying, Lord, I'm going to put a fleece out.
00:15:36.160 | So he's actually an example of what we should not do,
00:15:40.240 | not what we actually should do.
00:15:43.160 | And the scriptures do prohibit us from testing God,
00:15:46.120 | Matthew chapter 4, verse 7.
00:15:48.160 | What about peace?
00:15:49.840 | Peace.
00:15:50.920 | Man, I just need a piece of the Lord.
00:15:52.160 | I get that piece, and I know that's your answer, Lord.
00:15:54.440 | But Jesus in Gethsemane, Matthew chapter 26,
00:15:59.240 | when he was in Gethsemane, the Bible
00:16:00.720 | says that he was sorrowful and troubled.
00:16:05.320 | And I bet you every single one of us in this room
00:16:08.160 | are glad that Jesus did look at God the Father and say, God,
00:16:11.120 | you know, I'm really lacking peace right now.
00:16:13.040 | So that must be a sign from you that I should not be here.
00:16:17.840 | You see, we're glad that he stayed in that garden,
00:16:20.520 | because we now have eternal life in our souls
00:16:23.280 | because of his lack of peace.
00:16:26.920 | And what about the will of fortune approach
00:16:29.440 | to hearing from the Lord of God?
00:16:30.840 | We just kind of shh.
00:16:32.320 | OK.
00:16:33.000 | Well, should you ever take your Bible
00:16:34.500 | and just flip it open just to get an answer?
00:16:36.640 | I don't think it's necessarily wrong
00:16:38.120 | if you want to flip your Bible open
00:16:39.600 | and hear what God has to say.
00:16:40.920 | But make sure you know what it means, first of all,
00:16:43.040 | in its context.
00:16:44.920 | Because then you might come up with something like this.
00:16:48.800 | Judas went out and hanged himself.
00:16:50.960 | [LAUGHTER]
00:16:53.840 | And then you might turn again, shh, bam.
00:16:56.880 | Luke chapter 10, verse 37, you go and do likewise.
00:16:59.800 | [LAUGHTER]
00:17:02.720 | Oh, Lord, that was you.
00:17:06.720 | And what about waiting on the Lord?
00:17:08.400 | It's good sometimes to wait.
00:17:10.480 | And I do it all the time.
00:17:12.280 | If there's a decision that we have discerned
00:17:14.880 | that should be made, but maybe the provision isn't there yet,
00:17:18.000 | then we need to wait and say, God,
00:17:19.560 | her provision is going to actually help
00:17:21.260 | us to know whether or not what we think you're doing
00:17:23.920 | is the right direction.
00:17:26.200 | A provision that has come about is a different thing
00:17:30.280 | than just waiting.
00:17:31.120 | Because sometimes we wait out of fear.
00:17:33.560 | Sometimes we wait because we really know what God is saying,
00:17:36.480 | and we really don't want to move in the direction
00:17:38.520 | that He's calling us to, clearly.
00:17:40.520 | So here's the question.
00:17:41.840 | How can you make marriage decisions in line of eternity?
00:17:45.680 | How can you make decisions for your marriage
00:17:48.320 | that reflect eternity?
00:17:50.320 | And I want to see two things.
00:17:52.080 | Where can the voice of God be found?
00:17:55.080 | Where do we hear the voice of the Lord?
00:17:59.000 | And then secondarily, how can you make marriage decisions
00:18:02.440 | in line of eternity?
00:18:04.960 | So let's go before the Lord one more time and pray.
00:18:09.640 | God, first, I do bring before you again--
00:18:12.560 | not sure if that will be leading with respect to just any
00:18:15.640 | discontent in the room.
00:18:17.400 | But God, I just pray, Lord, that you
00:18:18.880 | administer to those areas of discontent,
00:18:21.000 | if and where they exist.
00:18:23.520 | Even for the men as well in this room,
00:18:26.320 | if they have spoken to them.
00:18:28.000 | And so God, I just pray that you bring a measure of contentment
00:18:30.600 | to those places.
00:18:31.960 | And apply, Lord God, your truth and your promises
00:18:34.720 | to those areas that where they're needed most.
00:18:37.880 | And now, God, we dive in, and I pray
00:18:39.360 | you help us to see once again what your word has to say.
00:18:42.200 | And that we would make decisions based on what
00:18:44.160 | honors and glorifies you.
00:18:45.720 | God, help me to honor and glorify you
00:18:47.480 | through the preaching of your word,
00:18:49.000 | and to honor the text, Lord God, that you
00:18:51.040 | have given the divine inspired and irreverent word of God.
00:18:54.360 | Be with us, Lord.
00:18:55.480 | Holy Spirit, please come.
00:18:57.480 | Open our eyes in Jesus' name.
00:19:00.480 | Amen.
00:19:01.920 | OK, question number one.
00:19:03.160 | Where can the voice of God be found?
00:19:07.480 | OK, now there's number one.
00:19:10.240 | I'm going to give you three.
00:19:11.480 | The most common voice, and they're all these, direction.
00:19:17.080 | This is simply what God does for us by giving us his word.
00:19:22.600 | The commands, the teachings that are in the Bible,
00:19:26.360 | the revealed will of the living God.
00:19:29.760 | Things like do not steal, do not kill, love your enemies,
00:19:32.880 | be filled with the Holy Spirit, put on humility.
00:19:36.160 | That's direction, clear direction.
00:19:40.080 | That is the most common voice that God
00:19:43.080 | has given us to hear and to gain direction from.
00:19:46.480 | Secondarily, the least common voice, declaration.
00:19:52.080 | Declaration.
00:19:53.640 | This is the least common means by which God leads us.
00:19:56.480 | He simply declares to us what we should do.
00:19:59.360 | For example, in the book of Acts with Philip,
00:20:01.600 | he said, "And an angel of the Lord
00:20:03.240 | spoke to Philip, saying, 'Arise, go to the south,
00:20:06.920 | to the road that descends from Jerusalem to Gaza.'"
00:20:09.800 | God comes out and says, "This is what I want you to do.
00:20:12.840 | This is where I want you to go."
00:20:14.200 | I'm not saying that does not happen,
00:20:16.080 | but that is the least common way that God gives us direction.
00:20:21.040 | And then, lastly, the third way that God speaks,
00:20:26.040 | the voice of God can be found is decree.
00:20:29.680 | Decree.
00:20:31.320 | In Acts chapter 4, this basically
00:20:33.280 | is God's sovereign decrees.
00:20:35.840 | It's designs and circumstances that cannot be thwarted
00:20:40.480 | by any man, animal, challenge, issue, earthquake, nothing.
00:20:46.360 | Whatever God says will be, period.
00:20:48.960 | Acts chapter 4, verse 27 and 28.
00:20:51.320 | "Truly in this city they were gathered together
00:20:53.280 | against their holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed,
00:20:56.880 | both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles
00:20:59.840 | and the peoples of Israel, to do whatever
00:21:02.760 | your hand and your plan had predestined to take place."
00:21:06.280 | Period.
00:21:06.760 | That's the sovereign hand of the living God.
00:21:09.200 | Those are the three voices that we clearly
00:21:11.640 | see in the word of God.
00:21:14.080 | Now, the question becomes is, my second one,
00:21:16.360 | how can you make marriage in light of eternity?
00:21:19.920 | With those three voices, direction, declaration,
00:21:24.160 | decree.
00:21:26.120 | The primary way that we can see this
00:21:29.080 | can be found in Romans chapter 12.
00:21:31.520 | So if you would, please turn with me to Romans chapter 12,
00:21:35.520 | starting in verse 2.
00:21:37.960 | Romans chapter 12, verse 2.
00:21:43.280 | It's a very familiar verse, but I
00:21:45.000 | think sometimes we know the-- we can
00:21:46.640 | pantace the beginning and then don't
00:21:48.280 | get to the very end of the verse,
00:21:50.440 | and we'll need to start by the same.
00:21:53.120 | Verse 2.
00:21:54.320 | "Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed."
00:22:00.800 | Everybody say transformed.
00:22:01.960 | Transformed.
00:22:02.880 | Whenever I make you guys do that,
00:22:04.240 | it's because I want to highlight that.
00:22:05.840 | Whenever I've been doing that throughout the weekend,
00:22:08.000 | I want you to remember that word, transformed.
00:22:10.000 | "By the renewal of your mind."
00:22:12.080 | Everybody say renewal.
00:22:13.360 | Renewal.
00:22:14.840 | "That by testing--" everybody say testing.
00:22:18.440 | Testing.
00:22:18.940 | It's clear.
00:22:20.400 | "You may discern--" everybody say discern.
00:22:23.640 | Discern.
00:22:24.600 | "What is the will of God, what is good and acceptable
00:22:29.320 | and perfect?"
00:22:31.640 | I'm going to give you some steps then
00:22:33.220 | from what the word of God tells us
00:22:34.680 | with respect to how you can make decisions in light of eternity.
00:22:38.480 | Step one, discerning.
00:22:42.680 | The primary way that you can identify
00:22:45.480 | what God is saying in a subjective area of your life
00:22:49.240 | when you're trying to make a decision
00:22:51.160 | is by discerning the voice of God,
00:22:55.680 | by the clear direction--
00:22:58.080 | I used the word direction.
00:22:59.440 | That's the most common voice.
00:23:00.960 | By the clear direction of God in his word
00:23:05.360 | with the renewed mind of God.
00:23:09.160 | Let me say it again.
00:23:10.760 | Say it again.
00:23:13.080 | The way that you most commonly hear the voice of God
00:23:16.960 | is you discern the voice of God by testing
00:23:21.560 | the clear direction of God in his word
00:23:25.520 | with a renewed mind of God.
00:23:28.360 | Let me say it a couple other ways.
00:23:33.720 | The primary way that we hear his voice of direction
00:23:36.800 | is with a renewed mind that is so shaped and governed
00:23:42.120 | by the revealed will of God in the Bible
00:23:44.960 | that we can see and assess all the relevant factors that
00:23:49.680 | are involved in a particular situation and decision,
00:23:53.080 | and we can discern what God is calling us to do,
00:23:56.600 | because we're so familiar with the revealed will of God.
00:24:01.960 | When it comes to, for example, you as parents,
00:24:03.960 | and even you that aren't parents that will be parents,
00:24:06.400 | when it comes to schooling, here's
00:24:09.240 | the revealed will of God that drove us as parents when
00:24:14.080 | our kids were little all the way up to now.
00:24:17.160 | Deuteronomy chapter 6.
00:24:18.680 | In these words, I command you today
00:24:21.880 | that they shall be on your heart.
00:24:23.680 | You shall teach them diligently to your children,
00:24:26.760 | and shall talk of them when you sit in your house,
00:24:28.880 | and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down,
00:24:31.160 | and when you rise up.
00:24:32.760 | That's the revealed will of God.
00:24:35.360 | And it's using that, discerning it, and then
00:24:38.120 | looking at the subjective areas--
00:24:40.280 | your own personal situation, your marriage, the schooling,
00:24:43.720 | the education system, all these other different things--
00:24:47.440 | to discern how you can be obedient to that.
00:24:51.400 | Another one.
00:24:52.760 | My mother.
00:24:54.040 | Years ago, probably about 10 years--
00:24:56.920 | probably 13 years ago, my father was in the military.
00:25:01.160 | And for the first time, he was overseas.
00:25:02.840 | And he was in Iraq for an entire year.
00:25:05.840 | And so what helped me to discern the voice of God--
00:25:09.280 | this is a big decision here.
00:25:10.440 | My dad's going to be gone.
00:25:11.960 | My mom's going to be by herself.
00:25:13.880 | The scriptures say this.
00:25:15.120 | Honor your father in what?
00:25:17.240 | Mother.
00:25:18.280 | That actual passage was spoken by Moses
00:25:23.280 | to people who were our age.
00:25:25.440 | You realize that?
00:25:26.880 | It wasn't spoken to children.
00:25:28.800 | You look at the Old Testament.
00:25:30.080 | It was spoken to those that were in their 30s and 40s that
00:25:33.240 | had older parents, and what did it
00:25:35.120 | look like for them in their older age to honor them.
00:25:38.880 | So I used that to drive discernment.
00:25:42.040 | Should my wife work or stay at home?
00:25:45.280 | God's word is not silent when it comes to the priority of you
00:25:48.760 | as women.
00:25:50.000 | In particular, you were made to be one helpers.
00:25:52.800 | We saw that in Genesis.
00:25:54.720 | Coworkers, partnering together.
00:25:57.760 | Next, home is your priority.
00:26:01.800 | Titus chapter 2, verse 5.
00:26:04.480 | Home is your priority.
00:26:06.400 | And your home should be a place of industry, hospitality,
00:26:11.120 | and respite.
00:26:12.920 | That's your role as a wife, Proverbs 31, 10 through 31.
00:26:18.640 | So see, what I'm doing here is I'm
00:26:20.080 | taking the revealed will of God, and I'm
00:26:22.840 | going to then begin to apply within the aspects
00:26:26.080 | of subjectivity and decision making what it is
00:26:28.800 | that God would have me to do.
00:26:32.200 | Now, before I begin to get into a little more detail,
00:26:34.440 | I want you to consider this with this Romans 12, 2 passage.
00:26:39.760 | This is key.
00:26:41.000 | Why does God make us go through the process
00:26:44.120 | of discerning his voice?
00:26:48.680 | God is God.
00:26:50.960 | I could say, Lord, do you really want me to do A or B?
00:26:54.960 | And he could just break out of the head and be like, oh.
00:26:58.240 | Like, OK, cool.
00:26:59.160 | Lord, that's what you want me to do.
00:27:01.360 | But how many of you have had that experience
00:27:04.120 | on a regular basis?
00:27:06.920 | OK.
00:27:07.560 | How many of you have ever had that experience?
00:27:08.840 | But you could have.
00:27:09.640 | Maybe the Lord spoke something to you.
00:27:12.520 | OK.
00:27:14.000 | So this is what I began to ask myself.
00:27:16.160 | Why does he say here in Romans chapter 12,
00:27:21.960 | "Transformed by the will of your mind,
00:27:23.560 | that you by testing may discern what is the will of God."
00:27:28.240 | Why does he leave it on discerning the will of God?
00:27:32.080 | And here's what I'm going to say,
00:27:33.480 | and then I'm going to kind of break this down.
00:27:38.960 | The discipline of discernment reveals the heart's affections.
00:27:44.760 | Discernment gives us space to hear the competing voices that
00:27:55.320 | are directing us in our decision making.
00:27:59.440 | I'm going to say it another way.
00:28:01.160 | Discernment, having to discern and test,
00:28:04.520 | it reveals where the heart and the mind
00:28:07.600 | have yet to be renewed.
00:28:10.640 | It says here, "Do not be conformed to this world,
00:28:13.640 | but be transformed by the renewal of your mind,
00:28:17.320 | that by testing you may discern."
00:28:19.440 | I'll give an example.
00:28:24.440 | My daughter, Trinity, our third one,
00:28:26.600 | she went to ninth grade.
00:28:30.320 | She's in ninth grade, and she was in a public school.
00:28:34.040 | We put her in public school for the first time
00:28:37.280 | in her education.
00:28:39.320 | And she went through pretty much OK,
00:28:42.240 | but there were some things that were present that we just kind
00:28:45.000 | of said, man, it just feels like she's kind of not flourishing
00:28:48.360 | in that environment.
00:28:49.400 | There seem to be so many things that are coming against her
00:28:52.160 | with a secular agenda that all she feels in that context
00:28:56.080 | is she's fighting.
00:28:57.360 | She's arguing because of the secularism that's just present,
00:29:00.960 | with all of the gender issues, with all the homosexuality,
00:29:04.120 | the transgender, the being tolerant, and relativism,
00:29:07.960 | and you can't believe the gays are this,
00:29:09.680 | and what's wrong with you.
00:29:10.720 | So she's just like, boom.
00:29:11.920 | And I remember a situation that just broke my heart,
00:29:15.160 | with my baby girl.
00:29:17.440 | We were in the living room, and she
00:29:18.880 | was on her phone with some friends,
00:29:21.760 | and they were kind of texting back and forth.
00:29:23.800 | And something on the TV happened with the whole gender issue.
00:29:27.160 | And so she just kind of said God's view.
00:29:28.840 | She said, man, this is what the Lord says.
00:29:30.800 | And for you, and I think we're claiming to be Christians,
00:29:33.320 | for you as a Christian to say that God is OK with you being
00:29:36.160 | gay, and that's not sin, and that's wrong.
00:29:39.440 | And they just attacked her.
00:29:41.280 | They just attacked her.
00:29:42.200 | She just walked away from that, just weeping.
00:29:44.520 | She was just so broken because of that.
00:29:47.280 | And so my wife and I, throughout the year, just said, man,
00:29:49.560 | it just feels like she's going through so much,
00:29:51.280 | and there isn't much.
00:29:52.160 | And she just felt kind of lifeless.
00:29:54.360 | And as we were battling on whether or not
00:29:56.680 | to keep her in that context, here's
00:29:58.800 | where the heart began to come out in us.
00:30:01.640 | The school where she was going is a very good school
00:30:04.960 | from a moral perspective.
00:30:07.160 | And the sense that if she were to graduate from here,
00:30:09.880 | she could get into some of the dopest colleges,
00:30:12.480 | have some of the greatest connections,
00:30:14.320 | have her potential realized, if you will, here on Earth
00:30:17.600 | in such a way that she could be in some very influential
00:30:20.600 | places.
00:30:22.320 | And so as we began to talk about this, my wife and I,
00:30:25.960 | we began talking, and we found that our conversation was
00:30:29.160 | going toward, man, if we take her out of this school,
00:30:32.120 | she might miss an opportunity.
00:30:34.240 | I mean, people at this school are going to Ivy Leagues,
00:30:37.240 | and we want her to be up there.
00:30:38.520 | And she might end up going to a Cal State if we leave her.
00:30:41.400 | And you know, Cal States can't be presidents.
00:30:43.280 | I mean, you don't go get a president out of a Cal State.
00:30:46.320 | Anybody that's a Cal State, I ain't got no--
00:30:50.400 | all right, I went to Biola.
00:30:51.880 | So ain't nobody ever heard of Biola, practically,
00:30:54.280 | but probably young.
00:30:55.160 | But you know, so you know, Cal States.
00:30:58.600 | But as we were talking about discern,
00:31:03.000 | you see how we're trying to discern?
00:31:04.720 | God, should we take her out, or should we not?
00:31:08.200 | What began to rise is our hearts' affections.
00:31:13.680 | Ooh, we're seeing some things here that
00:31:18.200 | aren't in line with God's heart.
00:31:20.920 | Should those reasons be the reasons why we should
00:31:23.560 | keep her in that school, just because we
00:31:25.840 | want her to be successful here on Earth, and have a good job,
00:31:29.600 | and have influence, and have-- is that what should
00:31:32.040 | be driving our motivations?
00:31:33.560 | Ah.
00:31:35.640 | And so see, discernment, God didn't tell us, yeah,
00:31:38.080 | I want her to go to this school.
00:31:39.400 | Because if God had told us, yeah,
00:31:40.760 | I want her to go to this school as opposed to this school,
00:31:43.160 | I never would have seen what?
00:31:44.600 | The heart.
00:31:46.280 | Even down to the little things.
00:31:48.520 | Like me, I like working out and going to the gym.
00:31:51.840 | OK?
00:31:53.520 | And I don't pray, God, should I go to the gym or not.
00:31:56.080 | Like, Lord, can you direct me right now?
00:31:58.040 | OK?
00:32:00.320 | It would be kind of weird if I did that.
00:32:02.680 | But on Monday mornings, those are my days off.
00:32:05.800 | Pastor's Day, that's Mondays.
00:32:07.520 | We cherish our Mondays.
00:32:09.160 | And I'm just having to make a decision whether or not
00:32:12.600 | to go to the gym or not.
00:32:13.600 | Well, why am I kind of considering thinking about that?
00:32:15.920 | Because my wife has a full-time, full-time, full-time job.
00:32:20.760 | And she's really tired.
00:32:22.680 | And she's really broke down.
00:32:24.680 | And I know that if I go out of this door,
00:32:28.240 | she's going to end up having to carry everything
00:32:30.640 | with respect to the kids, because it's summertime.
00:32:32.960 | And everybody's in the household.
00:32:34.400 | And then I will be gone, and she's
00:32:36.040 | going to be like, dude, where you at?
00:32:37.600 | You left me here with the whole crew,
00:32:39.360 | and you're out here doing your thing.
00:32:41.600 | What am I dealing with when I walk out of that door,
00:32:45.400 | and I'm like, man, I don't care.
00:32:47.200 | I'm out of here.
00:32:50.080 | What is that revealing in that little decision
00:32:52.440 | that I made?
00:32:55.040 | Some selfishness, right?
00:32:57.200 | A lack of sacrificial love that I'm called to as a husband.
00:33:03.440 | So even in that little decision, what the Holy Spirit of God,
00:33:07.480 | in that moment, was giving me an opportunity was,
00:33:10.880 | I need you to hear my voice, son,
00:33:12.960 | and learn how to discern it.
00:33:15.880 | You're about to walk out of this door.
00:33:18.000 | Your wife is in a bad place.
00:33:20.000 | I've called you by the grace of God to be sacrificial
00:33:23.160 | in your love toward her.
00:33:24.440 | So what's the decision, Ray, that you
00:33:26.320 | know I want you to make?
00:33:28.080 | Lord, I know what you want me to make.
00:33:30.240 | You want me to stay home.
00:33:31.480 | That's what you want me to do.
00:33:32.760 | You want me to sacrifice this time and stay home.
00:33:36.600 | You see, when you're dealing with decisions,
00:33:40.280 | those are the kind of things that God is trying to reveal,
00:33:42.720 | ultimately.
00:33:43.720 | What's at the bottom of your affections?
00:33:47.240 | Should I take this promotion, for example,
00:33:50.160 | and then say you have a promotion opportunity?
00:33:52.680 | And that promotion opportunity will not
00:33:55.040 | allow for you maybe to spend as much time with your family
00:33:57.880 | as you should, as much time with the Lord as you should.
00:34:01.240 | It will distance you from church.
00:34:04.280 | And it will allow maybe even because you've got to travel,
00:34:06.840 | maybe you're dealing with certain temptations
00:34:09.000 | that you should.
00:34:09.880 | And then if you say, man, the boss just gave me a promotion.
00:34:12.960 | I'm going to pray about this.
00:34:14.200 | God, I want to know if you really
00:34:15.960 | want me to take on this promotion.
00:34:17.640 | And if my boss walks through that door right now
00:34:19.720 | as I'm praying for this, then I know that's a sign
00:34:22.080 | and I'm going to take the promotion.
00:34:23.560 | All of a sudden, you open your eyeballs
00:34:24.600 | and the boss comes in and says, hey, Johnny, how you doing?
00:34:27.160 | I just wanted you to know, man, we were really looking forward
00:34:29.040 | to you taking on that promotion.
00:34:30.360 | He said, that's the Lord.
00:34:32.000 | That's the Lord.
00:34:34.840 | If you then go forward with that and say, you know what?
00:34:37.600 | I'm going to use that as a sign, and I'm
00:34:39.240 | going to move forward with this, wouldn't that
00:34:42.000 | just reveal about your heart?
00:34:44.240 | Maybe God isn't as important as you say He is.
00:34:47.560 | Maybe you have misplaced the priorities of family.
00:34:52.160 | Maybe you're having some issues with respect
00:34:54.360 | to pride and attaining a certain value in reaching
00:35:00.680 | a certain high level.
00:35:03.520 | You see, what does it ultimately reveal?
00:35:08.960 | God's silence in the midst of all of this
00:35:13.480 | in the midst of our decision making
00:35:15.800 | causes us to hear our own hearts' affections.
00:35:19.240 | God's silence allows for the voice of your heart
00:35:23.560 | and what you treasure to sing in the process of decision making.
00:35:28.160 | One writer wrote this, God knows that if He made His will for us
00:35:35.520 | more specific in decision making, more explicit,
00:35:39.160 | more often, we would tend to focus more on what we do
00:35:44.160 | rather than what we love.
00:35:46.280 | Did you hear that?
00:35:48.560 | Like the Pharisees, we would tend
00:35:51.360 | to focus on more of our actions rather than our affections.
00:35:57.840 | When we're not quite sure about a decision,
00:36:01.560 | we end up making decisions based on what we love.
00:36:08.400 | End quote.
00:36:09.400 | As German evangelist George Mueller said,
00:36:16.240 | "Ninetenths the difficulties are overcome when your hearts are
00:36:18.920 | ready to do the Lord's will.
00:36:21.160 | Whatever it may be, when one is truly in this state,
00:36:25.200 | it is usually but a little way into the knowledge of what
00:36:27.680 | His will truly is."
00:36:30.240 | You see, that's why God makes us wrestle.
00:36:32.120 | That's why we don't hear.
00:36:33.120 | That's why that's the most common voice, one of the reasons
00:36:36.920 | why declaration, you don't hear that much.
00:36:40.240 | Decree, you don't hear that much.
00:36:42.320 | Direction is His most common.
00:36:45.560 | Because as we wrestle, God uses that
00:36:49.960 | to help us to see our hearts and then renew our hearts.
00:36:56.560 | Here's the mild application, marriage and life eternity.
00:37:01.760 | I want you to look at your present decisions,
00:37:04.560 | the decisions that you've made even now,
00:37:06.280 | that you're living out.
00:37:07.640 | And maybe there are some decisions
00:37:09.040 | in front of some of you guys that you
00:37:10.600 | have to make in the near future.
00:37:14.560 | I want you to ask yourself, what are those things revealing
00:37:18.400 | about your affections?
00:37:21.320 | Take time to pause, stop, and examine your decisions.
00:37:27.000 | Look at them and ask yourself, what is that saying
00:37:31.320 | about where my heart is?
00:37:33.880 | I'll give some examples.
00:37:34.920 | What is your heart saying about your career choice?
00:37:40.480 | Matthew chapter 6, verse 33, Jesus says,
00:37:42.680 | "Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness,
00:37:46.280 | and all these things will be added unto you."
00:37:49.600 | I'm going to ask you a question.
00:37:51.640 | Have you chosen your career?
00:37:53.600 | Have you chosen your job?
00:37:55.520 | Is it driven by that?
00:38:02.120 | Or has your decision for your career, or the job
00:38:05.120 | that you're in, or the emphasis that you're putting on it,
00:38:07.920 | revealing something else?
00:38:09.160 | There's a couple at our church, a couple of doctors.
00:38:16.520 | And I think I was preaching, and I said one time in a sermon,
00:38:20.920 | the fact that if you have a job where you can't come
00:38:27.880 | on a regular and be in church community,
00:38:32.560 | then you need a different job.
00:38:35.840 | They came to me, and they said, you know,
00:38:38.200 | Pastor Rick, I heard that, and that hurt.
00:38:40.000 | That hurt.
00:38:41.520 | But we know that's Word.
00:38:43.440 | That's the Word of God right there.
00:38:44.900 | Forsake not the assembly of the saints.
00:38:47.240 | The church is the bride of Christ,
00:38:48.640 | and that needs to be a priority for us.
00:38:50.600 | And so as doctors, our schedules are crazy.
00:38:53.160 | But me and my wife sat down, and we said, you know what?
00:38:56.120 | If we have to lose income, if I have
00:38:58.520 | to do some other area of medicine,
00:39:01.920 | if we have to maybe move or change facilities,
00:39:06.320 | then we need to be open to do that.
00:39:08.440 | But right now, we're not at church on a regular
00:39:10.840 | like we should be.
00:39:12.200 | We're not in the community, in the body of Christ
00:39:14.720 | like we've been called to be.
00:39:16.480 | And so we're going to pray about this.
00:39:18.240 | We know what His Word is.
00:39:19.320 | We're going to ask God to maybe shift some things.
00:39:21.400 | But if He doesn't on this date, we're changing everything,
00:39:24.240 | and we're cutting it all out.
00:39:26.560 | I just loved that they were willing to do that.
00:39:28.680 | And by the grace of God, God fashioned it
00:39:31.160 | in a way where all of a sudden, one of the bosses came in
00:39:33.520 | and said, you know what?
00:39:34.560 | We're going to change your schedule.
00:39:35.800 | We're going to allow you to work here instead of here.
00:39:37.640 | And he said, that just opened everything up for us.
00:39:39.760 | And God was faithful, and He was gracious.
00:39:41.880 | Is your present career enhancing your relationship with God?
00:39:52.080 | Is it enhancing your ability to live out your calling
00:39:55.080 | to your spouse, your family?
00:39:57.520 | You didn't get married to not be around.
00:40:01.800 | Is your career hindering your responsibility and your calling
00:40:05.880 | to be a part of the body of Christ?
00:40:07.400 | And as I'm challenging you on that,
00:40:11.680 | how does that make you feel?
00:40:13.680 | How does it make you feel that maybe God is saying, ah, maybe
00:40:16.480 | you need to take that out?
00:40:18.200 | This is standing in the way of what
00:40:19.720 | is the clear, revealed word of God.
00:40:21.520 | What about a common purpose?
00:40:26.280 | What about a common purpose?
00:40:28.680 | Are your lives-- right now, this is all hard stuff
00:40:32.200 | that I want you to start examining.
00:40:34.160 | Are your lives set up for the Genesis calling
00:40:38.040 | that you've been called to as a couple, the helper companion?
00:40:44.520 | What do you do together as a family,
00:40:47.760 | as couples, that focuses on the fulfillment of that one aim,
00:40:52.240 | to spread the image of God through your relationship
00:40:55.720 | to the world?
00:40:57.560 | Can you guys look at each other and say,
00:41:00.080 | with our collective giftings and our personalities,
00:41:03.760 | we've come together, and we are fighting to actually live
00:41:06.960 | in the way God has called us to live,
00:41:08.520 | because He's brought us together.
00:41:10.760 | You see, there's a specific kind of calling
00:41:13.160 | with respect to the giftings, talents, experiences,
00:41:16.120 | and abilities that God has brought the two of you together
00:41:19.120 | that He wants you to live out.
00:41:20.680 | Are you living a common purpose?
00:41:28.200 | Or are you guys living segmented lives?
00:41:31.000 | I know a lot of couples.
00:41:33.000 | And I tell-- when I counsel couples, when I counsel
00:41:35.440 | couples, I sit them down.
00:41:37.920 | And at first, I tell the husbands,
00:41:39.960 | do you understand that you've been called to lead?
00:41:42.560 | That you've been called to lead as the husband
00:41:46.000 | to take dominion for the sake of the kingdom of God.
00:41:49.200 | Matthew chapter 6 should be your mission.
00:41:52.120 | Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness.
00:41:54.320 | Are you ready to do that?
00:41:55.760 | And then I look at the potential wife, and I say,
00:41:58.800 | are you ready to come alongside this man to make that reality?
00:42:02.880 | The reason I do that is because a lot of times,
00:42:05.560 | that's not the driving aim for why marriages come together.
00:42:10.000 | And so then they get into marriage,
00:42:11.560 | and then it's just like what the world does.
00:42:13.440 | You got your job.
00:42:14.400 | I got my job.
00:42:15.360 | And then we both kind of live our jobs.
00:42:17.000 | And we kind of come together at the end of the night.
00:42:19.320 | And that's kind of it.
00:42:20.280 | And then we do all of the American dream stuff.
00:42:22.240 | Do you have a common purpose as a couple?
00:42:31.000 | And is your life set up in such a way
00:42:33.400 | that you can make the kingdom of God and its pursuit primary?
00:42:39.920 | See, we lose perspective.
00:42:42.240 | You understand at the end of the day,
00:42:44.400 | you will be in heaven for all eternity,
00:42:47.720 | furthering the kingdom of God and His glory.
00:42:50.080 | We're going to work in heaven.
00:42:52.840 | That's the only reason you exist.
00:42:55.440 | The only reason you exist.
00:42:58.840 | And so God is calling you to engage
00:43:00.560 | in what you will be doing for all eternity.
00:43:04.720 | What about wives?
00:43:07.000 | Those of you who have children, staying at home
00:43:11.560 | or pursuing a career, in that battle, what's
00:43:17.400 | that saying about your heart?
00:43:19.280 | Why is that a battle?
00:43:21.440 | What is the battle that's there?
00:43:24.600 | What affections are arising as you deal with that challenge?
00:43:29.960 | I said before, the word of God is not silent on this.
00:43:35.360 | The priority for you as women, especially those
00:43:37.960 | who have children in particular, you
00:43:40.280 | to be helpers, co-workers.
00:43:43.200 | Genesis 2:18, we talked about it.
00:43:45.320 | With the home as the priority, Titus chapter 2, verse 5.
00:43:50.760 | And creating in your home a place of industry, hospitality,
00:43:54.800 | and respite.
00:43:57.160 | Proverbs 31, 10 through 31.
00:44:02.600 | Is that driving your decision making?
00:44:05.800 | Ladies and men, are you allowing an environment for your wives
00:44:12.760 | to be able to potentially stay at home?
00:44:15.760 | I'm not saying that it's a sin if you work.
00:44:19.080 | I'm not saying that.
00:44:21.120 | I'm not saying that it's a sin if you have a career.
00:44:24.200 | I'm not saying that.
00:44:25.840 | But this is what I am saying.
00:44:27.480 | The Bible is clear as to what your priorities are to be.
00:44:32.120 | Period.
00:44:33.400 | And if you can't have a career and still
00:44:35.960 | uphold these clearly revealed will of God priorities
00:44:39.920 | when it comes to you as a woman, then you shouldn't have one.
00:44:42.640 | I want to encourage you.
00:44:47.720 | When my wife and I got married, we
00:44:50.360 | allowed for Titus chapter 2, verse 5.
00:44:53.040 | We allowed for Proverbs chapter 31, verse 10.
00:44:56.840 | We allowed for the scriptures in Genesis chapter 2, verse 18.
00:45:01.080 | We saw the revealed will of God.
00:45:03.160 | And we said, God, will you help us
00:45:05.520 | to discern what it looks like for us to live that out?
00:45:09.640 | That's why I say it's not a sin that you have a job going.
00:45:12.080 | That's not the issue here.
00:45:13.600 | I'm not getting at particulars.
00:45:15.480 | I'm not being legalistic.
00:45:18.680 | But my issue is the majority of us
00:45:21.000 | don't even ask that question, I don't think.
00:45:24.000 | And I don't think that we sit back and ask ourselves
00:45:26.320 | why we're doing what we're doing.
00:45:27.400 | That's just what we're supposed to do.
00:45:28.920 | We go to school.
00:45:29.600 | We get a good education.
00:45:30.800 | And we're supposed to get a good job.
00:45:32.760 | That's what's respectable.
00:45:34.160 | But when we got together, we said, Lord,
00:45:38.960 | we know that's your passion.
00:45:41.160 | That's your passion for family.
00:45:43.680 | And so God, how do you do that?
00:45:45.200 | And where did you call this to?
00:45:47.880 | And then you were willing to make sacrifices
00:45:50.200 | to make that happen.
00:45:52.600 | Jesus didn't say it was going to be easy to follow and didn't.
00:45:56.320 | He said, you must deny yourself, take up your cross,
00:46:00.200 | and die to every single thing that you
00:46:02.400 | value for the sake of my name, the Father, me, above all else.
00:46:06.920 | And so up to this point, by the grace of God,
00:46:11.000 | through our parenting, my wife hasn't
00:46:13.280 | worked in a vocation for the past almost 20 years.
00:46:18.280 | Did it take a lot of sacrifice?
00:46:20.480 | Yes.
00:46:21.600 | Did we lose out on some things?
00:46:24.280 | Yes.
00:46:25.400 | We don't have two incomes.
00:46:27.760 | I live in Compton.
00:46:29.440 | We're both educated.
00:46:31.000 | I got a master's degree.
00:46:32.920 | She's got a bachelor's degree.
00:46:34.880 | We don't have to live there.
00:46:37.400 | But we said, you know what, Lord?
00:46:40.160 | In this setting, with all of our children,
00:46:42.720 | and all of the things that you're bringing on our plate,
00:46:45.160 | we're discerning this is the best way
00:46:47.880 | that we can ultimately live out what is clearly
00:46:50.400 | in your revealed will.
00:46:51.880 | And we're willing to die to some of these things
00:46:53.960 | for the sake of that.
00:46:58.680 | Some of you guys need to consider that.
00:47:01.760 | Some of you in your relationships
00:47:04.360 | need to consider that.
00:47:06.880 | Because it's infringing upon what is already
00:47:09.000 | revealed in the will of God.
00:47:10.440 | If it's not, go at it.
00:47:13.040 | Harvard's 31, she was industrious.
00:47:16.800 | Next thing, and I talked about this last year,
00:47:19.120 | kindergarten, ruled by children.
00:47:23.720 | Some of you, your kids are your idols.
00:47:28.640 | Everything revolves around the children.
00:47:32.960 | That's not the way it's supposed to be.
00:47:35.520 | That's not God's call.
00:47:37.840 | Your responsibility, first and foremost,
00:47:39.760 | is to your own relationship.
00:47:42.360 | You're supposed to bring them up in the admonition of the Lord.
00:47:45.400 | But that doesn't mean that you disappear from church.
00:47:47.680 | I'm dealing with that.
00:47:48.680 | I don't know if you guys are dealing with that.
00:47:49.840 | I'm dealing with that.
00:47:51.160 | People start having families in our church,
00:47:52.960 | and all of a sudden, they get ghosts.
00:47:54.920 | All of a sudden, they stop serving.
00:47:56.320 | All of a sudden, the church community
00:47:57.880 | has become a vital part of their lives.
00:47:59.920 | And they just kind of feel like they can come
00:48:01.760 | and they go as a plea, because hey, they got a schedule.
00:48:07.080 | I get all of that.
00:48:08.000 | So you can't say nothing to me about that.
00:48:09.760 | We juggle four of them, though.
00:48:11.080 | So I know about schedules.
00:48:12.720 | So whatever, woo, it's all good.
00:48:15.160 | Come on, come on, I got four.
00:48:17.640 | What you want to tell me?
00:48:20.640 | Again, I'm loving the fact that the peer's back there.
00:48:22.920 | And that's what I tell our people.
00:48:25.240 | Look, somebody was telling me even earlier,
00:48:27.480 | like, you know, Pastor Ray, if you're preaching,
00:48:30.160 | I just need you to know, like, I forget, son or daughter,
00:48:33.480 | they cry a lot.
00:48:34.520 | And so, woo, just to that, I was like,
00:48:36.720 | I don't care that they're crying.
00:48:38.120 | I'm immune to that.
00:48:38.920 | I don't even hear that no more.
00:48:40.280 | I have to delve some tolerance.
00:48:43.400 | And so, y'all, parents in the back, it's all good.
00:48:45.920 | Just walking that baby and just listening to the word of God.
00:48:50.600 | That's what I'm talking about.
00:48:52.200 | And here's what you do.
00:48:54.120 | You begin to communicate at an early age.
00:48:56.720 | You understand you're always teaching?
00:48:59.040 | You are always teaching.
00:49:00.160 | Your children are watching you.
00:49:03.080 | And they're seeing what you prioritize.
00:49:05.360 | And when they see you work hard to get the family together
00:49:08.320 | and get everybody up out the house and be like,
00:49:10.640 | no, we come in the church, they're learning.
00:49:14.400 | They're seeing what you value.
00:49:16.080 | They're seeing your priorities.
00:49:18.200 | And they'll begin to embrace those things themselves.
00:49:24.440 | I like what Francis Chan's wife said in the book when talking
00:49:28.120 | about taking their kids to the park.
00:49:30.080 | Am I taking my kids to the park because I just
00:49:32.320 | want to have a nice fun experience
00:49:33.760 | and just kind of get some fresh air?
00:49:35.260 | And those are all good things.
00:49:37.520 | Or am I taking them to the park because I
00:49:39.280 | want to invite a few moms that don't know the Lord
00:49:41.360 | and I can start fellowshipping with their moms
00:49:43.360 | while the kids are out there on the playground playing?
00:49:45.680 | It's a different perspective.
00:49:47.680 | I like that.
00:49:49.640 | Again, what is your heart telling you?
00:49:51.240 | Here's another one.
00:49:52.680 | What is your heart telling you when
00:49:55.000 | you look at the educational choices
00:49:57.320 | that you're thinking about making or you are making
00:50:00.560 | for your children?
00:50:01.680 | What is your heart telling you?
00:50:03.400 | I'm not telling you one thing is a sin or not,
00:50:05.800 | because I already told you I had my daughter in public school.
00:50:08.360 | I've done homeschooling.
00:50:10.040 | I've done Christian school.
00:50:11.640 | And I've done public school.
00:50:13.920 | So I have run the gamut.
00:50:17.680 | But again, here's the question.
00:50:21.760 | Why are you doing what you are doing?
00:50:27.480 | Have you intentionally put them wherever they are presently
00:50:33.200 | because you believe that that's going to honor Deuteronomy
00:50:36.160 | chapter 6 and these words I command you,
00:50:38.960 | that you shall teach them?
00:50:41.000 | Deuteronomy 6 didn't say that the school
00:50:43.680 | boards should teach them.
00:50:46.480 | It doesn't say that the church should teach them.
00:50:49.840 | It tells us as pastors to equip the saints
00:50:53.240 | to do the work of the ministry.
00:50:55.000 | The children's ministry should not
00:50:56.480 | be a fool for your children.
00:50:59.600 | What is that telling us?
00:51:01.800 | Ultimately, what's driving the decision making?
00:51:05.360 | Deuteronomy chapter 6 says you're supposed to teach them.
00:51:10.080 | So we allow for that clear direction in the word of God
00:51:15.400 | to determine how we educated our children.
00:51:19.400 | Again, what I'm getting at is are biblical categories
00:51:23.760 | driving our decision making?
00:51:25.720 | Can you look at every single decision
00:51:27.520 | that you have made and/or are making and say,
00:51:30.720 | the reason why we're doing this is because the word of God
00:51:33.560 | says this.
00:51:34.640 | And we believe this will fulfill this best.
00:51:37.760 | And that's how we try to drive everything.
00:51:43.400 | And so the reason why we did homeschooling early on for us
00:51:47.200 | was because--
00:51:48.400 | and it's all over the place.
00:51:50.320 | I was a teacher for 13 years.
00:51:52.480 | So I know what is in the educational system.
00:51:55.120 | All this gender inclusive stuff, people shaping my kids,
00:51:59.080 | they're sitting down with somebody
00:52:00.680 | that I don't even know for six hours.
00:52:05.200 | We have to be at least aware of that as parents.
00:52:08.920 | They're being shaped.
00:52:11.200 | And they're being shaped by a secular culture
00:52:14.640 | in a secular world by individuals
00:52:17.040 | that don't know and love God and whose
00:52:19.160 | God is the God of this age.
00:52:22.800 | And so for us, as we looked at the word of God and said,
00:52:26.960 | Ruth, it's your responsibility to teach them all
00:52:29.520 | that God has revealed in his word.
00:52:32.080 | Well, if that's the case, then we'll
00:52:33.800 | keep them home for a little while.
00:52:35.520 | And then we got to a place where we couldn't do it,
00:52:37.120 | we're going to put them in a Christian school
00:52:38.720 | where at least now they're surrounded
00:52:40.280 | by individuals that have a biblical worldview
00:52:43.840 | and can pour that biblical worldview into them.
00:52:47.160 | Are you in the live off of one income, maybe,
00:52:53.560 | because the best decision that you discern in living out
00:52:58.240 | the word of God here in Deuteronomy 6 is homeschooling?
00:53:02.520 | Maybe you need to change your budget
00:53:04.880 | and let some things go so maybe they
00:53:06.360 | can go into a Christian school.
00:53:09.320 | Are you invested in their classrooms?
00:53:12.080 | Do you know their teachers if they're in public school?
00:53:15.440 | Do you know the curriculum?
00:53:16.720 | Are you going in and saying, I'm going to find out
00:53:18.800 | what y'all teaching my kid?
00:53:20.360 | I'm not just going to trust you with my child.
00:53:22.520 | I need to come up here and let you know I'm a believer.
00:53:25.160 | I'm a Christian.
00:53:26.200 | And I'm going to ask you, please, if you can respect that.
00:53:28.720 | And so when it comes to these types of things,
00:53:30.560 | even though this is a public environment, if you could,
00:53:32.200 | please, make sure that you inform me
00:53:34.000 | if you want to talk about certain things that
00:53:35.920 | are contrary to the worldview that I'm
00:53:38.000 | trying to teach my kids.
00:53:39.640 | That's why I bring in every context.
00:53:41.120 | Public, I'm doing it.
00:53:42.520 | So again, I don't want nobody offended up in here.
00:53:46.320 | But my question is, I put them in this public setting,
00:53:50.640 | and I want to do what I need to do what's best to live out
00:53:54.120 | Deuteronomy 6.
00:53:55.680 | I'm going to say it again.
00:53:57.200 | It's your responsibility to raise your kids
00:54:00.080 | in that abolition environment.
00:54:02.200 | Nobody else's.
00:54:03.880 | And you will be held accountable for that.
00:54:08.440 | And here's the issue.
00:54:09.760 | You're dealing with an eternal soul.
00:54:13.280 | We're dealing with heaven or hell.
00:54:16.320 | These are weighty realities that need to weigh in
00:54:19.880 | on our decision making.
00:54:22.720 | My point is, are your decisions being
00:54:25.400 | driven by the clear directional voice of God?
00:54:31.760 | You see, what happens in your heart
00:54:35.160 | is the issue that I want to get at.
00:54:36.760 | Someone asked me just yesterday, where is your daughter
00:54:43.960 | going to school?
00:54:44.640 | And I just told her, I said, yeah, Christian school.
00:54:50.720 | She kind of asked, well, why is that?
00:54:52.560 | And there were some issues with her.
00:54:54.060 | I think her development, that's just the best setting.
00:54:56.800 | The secular schools now are--
00:54:59.240 | colleges are crazy.
00:55:00.280 | They just crazy.
00:55:01.200 | They crazy.
00:55:02.040 | So I'm just telling you as parents,
00:55:03.500 | once y'all get to that place, oh, boy, I don't even know.
00:55:07.520 | I really don't.
00:55:08.320 | It's frightening.
00:55:10.160 | And so I'm saying it here.
00:55:12.800 | Just don't go with the flow.
00:55:16.120 | Be aware of what you are doing and where
00:55:19.160 | you're placing your children, even when they
00:55:21.560 | get to this stage and this age.
00:55:24.040 | So for us, with Mariah, we just felt like, man,
00:55:26.160 | this is the best environment for her.
00:55:28.200 | We may think differently with our others.
00:55:30.720 | But the reason I bring up the education piece
00:55:35.840 | is what I showed them was my daughter.