MPJ and Josh Findley Discuss Going Undercover to Rescue Trafficking Victims

00:00:00.000 | Having you know been undercover as someone who's purchasing that

00:00:04.900 | It's just so sad. Like it was funny like I would just sit in a room and talk to him

00:00:13.080 | like, you know, it's like about $300 for an hour or whatever and

00:00:17.960 | They wanted to do everything but have sex and if they thought they could get away with just talking to you for an hour

00:00:26.720 | They would just be like this is you know, so money so that you had to talk to the children

00:00:31.240 | Yeah, the girls like as an undercover. Yeah, but so a lot of times when you

00:00:36.100 | You know identify yourself as police all those kind of things then they clam up

00:00:40.760 | Yeah, but if you're a John and you're just sitting there and you're asking them about their life

00:00:44.660 | Then they're just they're willing to tell you anything to not have to perform a sex act

00:00:50.360 | So they'll sit there and talk to you. So it's a completely consensual conversation. So it's it's there's no

00:00:56.540 | Yeah, rights violations or anything like that. So I would try to get as much if we're gonna meet with you know girls that night

00:01:02.980 | Why don't I sit in the room with them and talk to him for 30 or 45 minutes and see how much information I can gain

00:01:09.980 | before the police come in and they arrest the pimp outside all those kind of things because she might be more willing to tell

00:01:16.820 | me a lot of information or if not

00:01:18.860 | I can get a lot of information the thing when she's interviewed by a

00:01:22.540 | Forensic specialist then they're gonna be able to use a lot of that information have a lot more knowledge when they

00:01:27.340 | They try to engage with her and get her services. So as an undercover agent, why can't you?

00:01:34.140 | You know meet with these children that you is this talking to him in person or is it online?

00:01:39.780 | In person, so like why can't you just walk into a room and see that this guy has these children and on the spot?

00:01:46.620 | So they do it all it's like all alcohol

00:01:48.860 | So I will either set up a house or a hotel room and those kind of things

00:01:55.580 | Child will come to the front door

00:01:58.020 | There's a car sitting, you know three blocks away

00:02:01.780 | You got a surveillance team watching that bring the kid in and then you have to make sure that they're there to you know

00:02:07.380 | Perform a sex act like you certified crew, right?

00:02:10.980 | So you're just making all those steps and so my thought when doing that was like why not get as much information while I can

00:02:16.620 | Because the the car is sitting there outside like nothing's gonna happen. So dang that is

00:02:22.340 | Crazy to me. I had a 16 year old girl with a pistol in her pocket

00:02:26.420 | I was pretty sure she was gonna try to rob me. So I had that really yeah

00:02:30.260 | Dude, that is a crazy job to work in like that is do you have a lot of trauma like now about that?

00:02:38.600 | or it just like not I I

00:02:41.180 | Don't have a lot of trauma about it

00:02:46.380 | I know a lot of people who have done what I do have a lot of trauma. Mm-hmm

00:02:52.060 | I feel fortunate. I feel like I have a

00:02:55.540 | Great family. I have a great friends that

00:02:58.820 | Understand what I go to people like you, you know, I mean like if there was no guys

00:03:03.140 | Are you willing to put themselves in these situations?

00:03:08.740 | We wouldn't rescue these kids in the first place