back to indexSession 5 - God's Design For Marital Union
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This is the session where everybody stops breathing. 00:00:08.280 |
I'll never forget doing this particular session 00:00:20.060 |
we're gonna talk about the biblical view of sexuality. 00:00:29.800 |
So I talked about it, and during the whole time, 00:00:32.440 |
people just kind of sat there looking straight ahead. 00:00:37.280 |
And at the end, I said, are there any questions? 00:00:47.160 |
And pretty soon, there was one guy about halfway back 00:00:50.160 |
on the left-hand side that just kind of slowly, 00:00:52.940 |
little bald-head guy, slowly put his hand up like this. 00:01:02.880 |
I said, now stand up so everybody can hear you. 00:01:11.320 |
we have this friend, and the whole place lost it. 00:01:28.640 |
I answered the question, and then the dam broke, 00:01:30.680 |
and then we were there for the next two hours 00:01:39.740 |
Gentlemen, you're gonna impress the ladies again. 00:01:44.400 |
I know you had caffeine for lunch, so you can do this. 00:01:59.600 |
That's great, all right, wonderful, wonderful. 00:02:04.840 |
on your husband's face by describing three things 00:02:07.840 |
you need to remember in order to be a godly wife, 00:02:14.640 |
Remember, a little bit more sophisticated than the guys, 00:02:41.340 |
We're gonna go home and start practicing these right away. 00:02:45.500 |
Even the kids, we're bringing the kids in on this, too. 00:02:48.780 |
Four rules of communication that are really vital 00:03:03.460 |
- That's right, number four, act, don't react. 00:03:09.620 |
Now, we wanna talk about the sexual relationship 00:03:32.780 |
they've never heard this addressed in church, 00:03:35.560 |
and nobody's ever sat down and discipled them, 00:03:45.460 |
and a lot of couples don't get premarital counseling. 00:03:54.660 |
This is important, and I want you to, in a sense, 00:04:17.700 |
There is a Victorian approach to union and marriage 00:04:26.120 |
don't talk about it, you shouldn't talk about it, 00:04:31.020 |
and there are a lot of people who are raised that way, 00:04:33.860 |
mom and dad didn't really say a whole lot about it, 00:04:36.680 |
until the gals reach an age where they went through 00:04:41.000 |
a time, menstrual changes that go on in their body, 00:04:44.740 |
nobody has said anything about it, or very little, 00:04:48.420 |
and there are some Christian homes that function like that. 00:04:52.700 |
there are other homes that are sort of postmodern view, 00:04:56.660 |
which is sex is the highest of all human relationship, 00:05:03.300 |
then there's something seriously wrong with your marriage. 00:05:11.240 |
it's a dirty topic, you don't want to talk about it, 00:05:14.620 |
and then you've got this other view in Christianity, 00:05:17.180 |
clear over here, that says, oh no, it's just the opposite, 00:05:21.620 |
and if you're not having great sex in marriage, 00:05:24.220 |
that is an indicator that you have serious problems 00:05:32.700 |
in between those particular views that you can highlight. 00:05:41.620 |
and the Bible's supposed to be our guide, right? 00:05:45.780 |
What does the Bible teach about this subject? 00:05:52.020 |
that would not say that it's an important topic, it is, 00:05:56.540 |
so what does the Bible really, really genuinely say about it? 00:06:12.980 |
let love be genuine, abhor or hate that which is evil, 00:06:25.020 |
and people ask you, what did you do this weekend? 00:06:43.500 |
I have to turn all of my negative emotions on that. 00:06:57.100 |
and I'm not really growing, just as Pastor just said, 00:07:00.020 |
reminded us, that's part of the progressive sanctification 00:07:02.420 |
of the believer, in terms of changing and growing, 00:07:23.700 |
So if you violate God's word in the sexual realm, 00:07:26.300 |
then you've gotta learn to hate that violation. 00:07:42.820 |
This is a good way to start this last session. 00:08:00.220 |
So Adam was created fully and completely male. 00:08:13.200 |
in verse 31, God calls everything he had created very good. 00:08:22.420 |
in which you were created in your body is a good thing. 00:08:28.180 |
in our culture with the transgender type of people 00:08:36.940 |
and it's only culture that has done that to them. 00:08:44.260 |
if they have a woman's body, or if they have a male body, 00:09:14.180 |
that 1 John was written, to refute that kind of Docetism. 00:09:24.760 |
people being uncomfortable with who they are on the inside, 00:09:32.820 |
and as a result of that, they just become unhappy people. 00:09:41.140 |
God does not create junk, he doesn't do that. 00:09:48.180 |
you're not his first mistake in all of human history, 00:09:57.740 |
so that means you have to bring your thinking 00:10:04.900 |
and learn to be happy with the way in which you were created 00:10:08.180 |
as a male or as a female, this is really key. 00:10:12.160 |
You can self-identify yourself as a frog, I don't care, 00:10:20.700 |
This self-identity thing is going to wreak havoc 00:10:29.540 |
this horrible notion, and it's a self-destructive notion, 00:10:32.980 |
that somehow I can determine who I want to be, 00:10:44.500 |
No, no, no, you can't do that, you're going to wreak havoc. 00:10:52.780 |
and you can change all the soft tissue in your body, 00:10:55.940 |
and take all the hormones of the opposite sex, 00:10:58.480 |
but a thousand years from now, they dig up your skeleton, 00:11:04.180 |
You're not going to change your skeletal structure. 00:11:15.380 |
The way you were created as a male, as a female, 00:12:05.080 |
You'll never be one flesh, in the same sense, 00:12:10.640 |
You'll never be one flesh through masturbation, 00:12:14.000 |
and most theologians, and I think that they're right, 00:12:18.880 |
towards homosexuality because it is the same sex 00:12:32.160 |
what true companionship and complementarianism is 00:13:13.620 |
And as Hebrews chapter 13 and verse four says, 00:13:18.480 |
"Let the marriage bed be held in honor among all, 00:13:35.840 |
And in fact, how dare we call something dirty 00:13:45.640 |
So, that gets us away from that Victorian view of sexuality 00:13:49.760 |
that somehow that says that sex is a dirty topic, 00:13:54.240 |
it's a bad thing, you should never talk about it. 00:14:05.280 |
and it tends to make us as Christians in our thinking 00:14:14.800 |
I spend a lot of time with when I'm working with 00:14:17.200 |
or trying to counsel a person who is homosexual or lesbian, 00:14:25.200 |
the heterosexual relationship was originally designed to be. 00:14:34.420 |
all of a sudden they realize how their practices 00:14:39.840 |
with what God designed it to be, now they're changing. 00:14:42.480 |
In fact, we have a guy in our fellowship group, 00:15:12.240 |
And so it's really good to see those kind of things 00:15:19.800 |
So the implication is the heterosexual relationship 00:15:28.900 |
is what God has intended from the very beginning, 00:15:40.360 |
And we've got to get those kind of thoughts out of our head. 00:15:45.760 |
Now there's a second thing I want you to understand. 00:15:58.120 |
which sort of gets us away from this postmodern view 00:16:00.900 |
over here that says the highest of all human relationships 00:16:29.760 |
aggressively, and passionately is sin against God, 00:16:41.280 |
Since the Middle Ages, the Roman Catholic Church 00:16:45.080 |
That's the reason why when a young man, young woman 00:16:47.200 |
in Roman Catholicism would have sex prior to marriage, 00:16:50.040 |
they would try to get them married as quickly as possible. 00:16:52.960 |
That's one of the worst things that can happen. 00:17:06.640 |
But that doesn't mean that that equals marriage. 00:17:29.320 |
goes way beyond just the sexual relationship. 00:17:41.200 |
Back several years ago, we had a couple in our church. 00:17:48.540 |
Called me up, said they wanted to come in for counseling. 00:17:59.160 |
part of our church, very involved, wonderful couple. 00:18:09.920 |
"Hey, what prompted you to come in for counseling? 00:18:14.720 |
They kind of both hung their head a little bit and sighed. 00:18:18.040 |
And I said, "Well, you might as well tell me. 00:18:32.980 |
"we have never yet consummated our relationship." 00:18:37.980 |
Now, in counseling, you're never supposed to look shocked. 00:19:06.680 |
in order to correct that issue, it all failed, 00:19:08.960 |
and now their desire to have children was quickly dying. 00:19:11.940 |
And they were beginning to think that their relationship, 00:19:19.040 |
Well, if I had a Roman Catholic view of marriage, 00:19:22.120 |
Well, you can't have sex, so you're not married. 00:19:26.580 |
But I didn't have a Roman Catholic view of marriage. 00:19:32.880 |
"Since he has this particular physiological problem, 00:19:35.480 |
"and the doctors don't seem to have any answer for it 00:20:08.280 |
they've never ever yet consummated their relationship. 00:20:19.000 |
that unity in marriage goes way beyond just sexuality, 00:20:26.840 |
that says sex is the highest of all human relationships, 00:20:36.240 |
can be an indicator of certain problems in your marriage, 00:20:39.160 |
but it doesn't mean that you've gotta be having, 00:20:42.280 |
I mean, you look at these supermarket tabloids 00:20:54.600 |
this is just thrown at you constantly, everywhere, 00:21:06.040 |
because marriage success is much more than sexual success. 00:21:12.240 |
Marriage success is much more than sexual success. 00:21:18.360 |
if that gets us away from the Victorian view, 00:21:21.560 |
and it also gets us away from this postmodern, 00:21:34.160 |
Let's go over to 1 Corinthians chapter seven. 00:22:01.840 |
The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights 00:22:10.920 |
Some translations say the husband should fulfill 00:22:29.240 |
we say duty, I've never viewed sex as a duty. 00:23:01.200 |
we have been trained to think about sexuality 00:23:07.200 |
And what I'm gonna help you to do is face the fact 00:23:10.580 |
that we need to think about it in a biblical way, 00:23:14.600 |
because the Bible says that if you're a husband, 00:23:24.380 |
And if you're a wife, you have a marital duty 00:23:45.240 |
When you said, "I do," that was part of the deal. 00:23:55.020 |
That tells me that sex has as its primary goal 00:24:20.980 |
The goal is not having a climax or an orgasm. 00:24:33.740 |
In other words, this goal is nothing about me. 00:25:15.660 |
you have just gone from preaching to meddling." 00:25:25.260 |
When you do that, when you withhold yourself from that, 00:25:48.500 |
No, that kind of thinking is not a part of Christian bed. 00:25:54.820 |
The Christian bed says, "No, it's not all about me. 00:26:07.500 |
you receive a considerable amount of fulfillment yourself. 00:26:22.100 |
We leave this to the very last in premarital counseling 00:26:34.980 |
And they come back and I see them there at church. 00:26:44.060 |
"Well, you know, we did what you told us to do. 00:26:49.060 |
I wanted to make sure my wife was absolutely fulfilled. 00:26:54.660 |
I wanted to make sure my husband was absolutely fulfilled. 00:27:24.820 |
And they are like ships passing in the night. 00:27:36.500 |
what fulfills a woman that's giving her her conjugal rights 00:27:51.500 |
Then all of a sudden, when they finally catch this, 00:28:06.900 |
So the key here is that I am giving myself to my spouse 00:28:16.820 |
not for the purpose of my self-gratification. 00:28:22.980 |
from getting pleasure to that of giving pleasure 00:28:33.820 |
It's not focused upon giving, giving, giving, giving. 00:28:37.700 |
This brings the mind of Christ right into the bedroom 00:28:57.540 |
For the wife does not have authority over her own body, 00:29:07.340 |
Likewise, the husband does not have authority 00:29:18.980 |
when you say I do, doesn't belong to you anymore. 00:29:24.020 |
It belongs to your spouse, and you're gonna use this 00:29:32.940 |
You're gonna use that to fulfill them all you can. 00:29:42.780 |
you're not breathing at this particular point. 00:29:52.020 |
I remember teaching this in counseling one day, 00:29:54.380 |
and the wife sort of sat back, and she rolls her eyes. 00:30:09.940 |
She says, I know where you're going with this. 00:30:15.380 |
You want me to make sure that he is absolutely fulfilled. 00:30:23.620 |
And she says, well, I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. 00:30:30.300 |
Well, she says, you don't understand my husband. 00:30:42.220 |
I wouldn't get anything else done in my life, all right? 00:31:16.460 |
I want you to make sure you put a movie on the TV, 00:31:18.900 |
do whatever you want, keep the kids occupied. 00:31:21.140 |
You be standing behind the door with the nicest negligee, 00:31:38.020 |
You can see the husband sitting in the other chair. 00:31:41.660 |
This is gonna be an interesting week for him. 00:31:50.900 |
So, they left, and she went shuffling out of the room. 00:32:09.180 |
I had prayer with them, and as soon as I said amen, 00:32:13.700 |
and she pointed right at my Bible, and she says, 00:32:24.700 |
I was standing behind the door with a negligee on, 00:32:27.060 |
and I grabbed his hand, and I took him to bed. 00:32:28.700 |
First day it happened, second day it happened, 00:32:30.780 |
third day it happened, fourth day it happened, 00:32:56.340 |
We have to be serious about what we're doing here. 00:32:59.160 |
It is part of your marital duty to fulfill your spouse. 00:33:20.940 |
I had another woman in counseling who said to me, 00:33:24.740 |
It's just not my nature to be aggressive or assertive. 00:33:29.740 |
I'm just kind of quiet, and she kind of sat there 00:33:45.660 |
to initiate anything like this in our marriage. 00:33:51.340 |
And she kind of sat back, self-satisfied with that comment, 00:34:31.820 |
We're not taking this seriously in the Christian realm, 00:34:39.260 |
Are we going to allow our natures to guide us 00:35:12.260 |
I'm speaking to men as well as the women here. 00:35:16.940 |
This presumes, and this is one of the reasons 00:35:35.660 |
the wife communicates whether or not she's fulfilled or not, 00:36:11.940 |
with an equal ability to satisfy one another. 00:36:18.500 |
with an equal ability to satisfy one another. 00:36:24.860 |
Sometimes just by nature of the educational setting 00:36:37.660 |
they teach women through television magazines, 00:36:56.660 |
You want something to destroy your relationship, 00:37:31.820 |
You do not have this independent of your spouse. 00:37:48.500 |
and leave nothing for my wife in bed at night. 00:38:04.180 |
I'm gonna leave part of that energy for my husband. 00:38:13.940 |
Sexual relationships are to be equal and reciprocal. 00:38:22.180 |
I am here to find out how I can minister to you 00:38:30.260 |
How can I minister to you in this area of my marriage? 00:38:58.980 |
They can look at that as long as they were listening. 00:39:26.620 |
everybody went back to their respective jobs and everything. 00:39:38.420 |
you remember the seminar you did up at Lake Tahoe? 00:39:51.420 |
I wanna be able to go in and compliment your ministry. 00:39:57.700 |
And then he started laughing on the other end of the phone. 00:40:03.260 |
that we have had a baby explosion in our church. 00:40:10.980 |
to triple our nursery size, all right, in our church. 00:40:15.980 |
And we all attribute it back to that Lake Tahoe event. 00:40:22.460 |
So I just sent them into an entire new building program. 00:40:26.100 |
And I realize around here, you can't build anything. 00:40:29.980 |
So after this, you're gonna be in deep trouble. 00:40:55.100 |
And I want you to go back to Proverbs chapter five. 00:40:57.900 |
Proverbs chapter five, this is kind of interesting. 00:41:14.180 |
the sexual relationship between a husband and wife. 00:41:23.380 |
sex was like taking a refreshing glass of water. 00:41:39.500 |
Verse 19 says, "A loving doe, a graceful doe, 00:41:42.620 |
"let her breast fill you all times with delight. 00:41:49.540 |
And this is one of the rare times in all the Bible 00:41:59.020 |
but it's okay to get drunk on your husband or your wife. 00:42:08.780 |
Someday, I'm gonna preach a series of messages 00:42:10.740 |
on all the places in the Bible it's okay to get drunk. 00:42:20.860 |
It's the same word that's used to get drunk on alcohol. 00:42:26.060 |
or ayin, which is wine in the Hebrew language. 00:42:31.760 |
It's okay to get drunk on your love of your wife. 00:42:36.760 |
Verse 20, "Why should you be intoxicated, my son, 00:42:46.180 |
"For a man's ways are before the eyes of the Lord, 00:42:54.680 |
"and he is held fast in the cords of his sin. 00:42:58.720 |
"and because of his great folly, he is led astray." 00:43:03.100 |
In other words, we have a lot more self-discipline 00:43:05.700 |
than we're willing to give ourself credit for, 00:43:16.380 |
that you cannot get one bit more satisfaction 00:43:29.680 |
That goes way beyond just the physical satisfaction 00:43:34.380 |
of bathing your brain in some kind of release of chemicals 00:43:50.220 |
that God is very pleased with what you are doing. 00:44:06.460 |
Number five, I want you to understand this as well, 00:44:09.340 |
that pleasure then in sex is not sinful and forbidden, 00:44:16.960 |
We can see that in Proverbs 5, verses 18 and 19. 00:44:27.280 |
It's just that your experience is not the goal, 00:44:35.740 |
who has that kind of commitment to one another, 00:44:56.700 |
This is something the world will never understand. 00:45:43.780 |
"For sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness," 00:45:49.260 |
there's the greed, "must not even be named among you 00:45:55.180 |
The word sexual immorality is the Greek term poinaia. 00:46:01.980 |
It means any kind of illicit sexual activity, 00:46:10.580 |
There's nothing more greedy than masturbation. 00:46:22.320 |
That shouldn't even be named among God's people. 00:46:31.940 |
which means that pornography shouldn't be a part 00:46:43.100 |
in order to have better sex, those kind of things, 00:46:45.300 |
you're not really having sex with each other anymore. 00:46:52.500 |
And men's pornography is different than women's pornography. 00:47:02.380 |
in the Christian culture, than men's pornography is. 00:47:07.300 |
There's no doubt about that, but women do too. 00:47:10.300 |
The women's is more acceptable in the Christian culture. 00:47:35.440 |
you're never gonna find men's pornography in there, 00:47:43.920 |
We had a graduate student who did a complete thorough study 00:48:00.440 |
And in reading that thesis, I became convinced 00:48:03.100 |
this is a much bigger problem than I ever thought. 00:48:09.500 |
No, no, no, this is not the way Christians act. 00:48:17.060 |
They don't drown themselves in romance novels 00:48:25.020 |
Christians don't develop their thinking from that. 00:48:27.940 |
They develop their thinking from the Word of God, 00:48:35.620 |
then you are training your mind to be conformed 00:48:41.420 |
You're not training your mind to be biblical, 00:48:52.100 |
to be excited about your relationship with your spouse. 00:48:59.220 |
This is why I really think that this whole trend 00:49:06.660 |
is gonna be devastating, because your robotic partner 00:49:10.260 |
is never gonna get fat, they're never gonna get sick, 00:49:17.980 |
It's gonna wreak havoc, and we won't know in the future 00:49:28.660 |
because of the role that both men and women's pornography 00:49:32.620 |
is playing, and how it's undermining marriage. 00:49:37.860 |
There should be no greed, self-gratifying kind of sex 00:49:55.220 |
and even encouraged, but it's within the right context, 00:49:58.780 |
that is monogamous marriage, with the right kind 00:50:01.580 |
of relationship, and that is heterosexuality. 00:50:04.620 |
That's the way God intended the expression of sex 00:50:11.460 |
Number six, last of all, then sexual relationships 00:50:17.420 |
Go back to 1 Corinthians 7, you can see this. 00:50:22.940 |
Verse five, "Do not deprive one another except perhaps 00:50:26.660 |
"by agreement for a limited time that you may devote 00:50:30.400 |
"yourself to prayer, but then come together again 00:50:33.440 |
"so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack 00:50:39.460 |
This is really key, because what Paul does here 00:50:43.060 |
in the marital relationship, he outlines four 00:51:12.020 |
It's not when one party decides we're not gonna do this. 00:51:15.260 |
If that's true, then you are cheating your spouse 00:51:37.740 |
Could be sickness, could be illness, could be 00:51:40.500 |
other things are distracting, family crisis situation. 00:51:44.500 |
There's an agreed upon time, we're not gonna be able 00:51:47.060 |
to do this, but it's mutually agreed is the idea. 00:51:52.060 |
And then some translations say for fasting and prayer, 00:52:03.740 |
is during genuine crisis situation, as by the way, 00:52:11.600 |
We know this later on because Paul refers here 00:52:26.200 |
at that particular time, it's better to devote yourself 00:52:29.280 |
to prayer and fasting than devote yourself to sexuality 00:52:34.220 |
at that particular point because of this crisis situation, 00:52:37.400 |
but during those crisis situations are good times 00:52:44.760 |
And then he says, last of all, then you terminate, 00:52:48.880 |
that is, not having sex, and you start again, why? 00:52:56.080 |
come together again so that Satan will not tempt you 00:53:01.200 |
Once a couple is used to a mutually satisfying, 00:53:04.540 |
self-giving relationship within the sexual realm, 00:53:12.320 |
then Satan uses that as a temptation with other people, 00:53:26.360 |
once you're used to a mutually satisfying relationship 00:53:32.800 |
then Satan uses that as a means to gain a foothold 00:53:41.720 |
So we have four guidelines, mutual agreement, 00:53:49.920 |
then you terminate not having sex, and you start again. 00:53:59.340 |
Well, I know there's probably a lot more that you have, 00:54:07.880 |
but at least I've given you the basics on that. 00:54:12.000 |
So just remember Romans chapter 14, verse 23, 00:54:15.520 |
whatever you can't do in faith is sin for you, 00:54:18.720 |
so you're not gonna expect your wife or your husband 00:54:20.920 |
to do things that are gonna be repugnant to them. 00:54:30.960 |
So you're not gonna expect your husband or wife 00:54:33.520 |
to do things that they can't do with a whole heart, 00:54:48.800 |
Let me review them one last time for you real quickly. 00:54:51.920 |
Number one, sex in marriage is pure and holy. 00:54:54.320 |
Number two, sex is not the basis of marriage, 00:55:03.420 |
Number four, God created both the husband and wife 00:55:08.840 |
Number five, pleasure in sex is not sinful and forbidden, 00:55:14.240 |
And then number six, six sexual relationships 00:55:18.440 |
should be regular and continuous in marriage. 00:55:36.300 |
Gracious Father, we thank you for the goodness of your word. 00:55:42.400 |
that possibly have been wrong in our marriage 00:55:47.120 |
We need to make sure that we are doing things your way, 00:56:00.060 |
Proverbs tells us the way of the transgressor is hard. 00:56:39.100 |
to make the necessary changes in their thinking 00:56:47.820 |
to give you all the praise and all the glory,