back to indexDoes John Piper Add (Joy) to the Gospel?
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Namely, does John Piper add joy to the gospel? 00:00:12.840 |
It's a question today from a listener named Brian. 00:00:16.960 |
I thank God for using your ministry to bless many people and to restore them 00:00:22.480 |
I saw a recent tweet, a quote from you online saying, quote, 'You either 00:00:26.620 |
treasure Jesus above all, or you're not saved. 00:00:30.760 |
If you don't value Jesus above everything else, you don't have saving faith.' 00:00:38.080 |
Now, such a hot potato tweet caught a lot of heat from Christians and pastors 00:00:42.960 |
because the statement implies that treasuring Christ is perhaps a step in 00:00:47.040 |
addition to believing Christ and hence adds to the gospel. 00:00:52.000 |
Some of the critique was about how this treasuring Christ is better put under 00:00:59.300 |
My knowledge of Christian hedonism is very small, so I would like to ask you, 00:01:03.500 |
is treasuring Christ a part of saving faith or does it come later in 00:01:10.600 |
So my tweet was, quote, "You either treasure Jesus above all, or you're not 00:01:17.320 |
saved. If you don't value Jesus above everything else, you don't have saving 00:01:24.360 |
And the criticism is, treasuring Jesus above all as an essential mark of a 00:01:30.760 |
Christian adds something to saving faith as the instrument of justification and so 00:01:36.780 |
corrupts the biblical doctrine of justification by faith alone. 00:01:39.780 |
So Brian puts it in a question, "Is treasuring Christ a part of saving 00:01:46.800 |
faith or does it come later in sanctification?" 00:01:50.500 |
Perhaps a couple of preliminary comments before I answer that question. 00:01:56.020 |
First, it's important to realize that all growth in every grace belongs to 00:02:03.580 |
sanctification, including growth in faith, even though faith was there at the point 00:02:12.080 |
of the beginning of the Christian life as the only instrument obtaining 00:02:18.900 |
So to say that something is essential for the beginning of the Christian life does 00:02:25.340 |
not exclude it as part of the ongoing experience of the growth of 00:02:33.860 |
Second, when the Bible says that something is evidence that you are a 00:02:40.820 |
Christian, you'll know them by their fruit, that you don't have saving faith 00:02:46.300 |
unless you have that evidence or that fruit, that you're not born again without 00:02:52.940 |
this fruit or evidence, this does not mean that the missing fruit or evidence 00:02:59.580 |
has to be a constituent part of justifying faith. 00:03:04.700 |
For example, Hebrews 12, 14 says, "Strive for the holiness without which no one 00:03:11.740 |
Holiness without which no one will see the Lord. 00:03:14.700 |
If you don't have this holiness, you're not going to see Jesus, which means 00:03:18.500 |
In other words, there is a holiness, a measure of sanctification, without which 00:03:35.900 |
But that doesn't mean that such holiness is included in saving faith. 00:03:41.500 |
There are fruits in the Christian life that bear witness to the authenticity of 00:03:51.620 |
And the Bible is willing to say that without those fruits, we show that we are 00:03:59.980 |
We didn't really have authentic saving faith, which would have produced the 00:04:09.580 |
The text that I had in mind with that tweet is, "Whoever loves father or mother 00:04:15.020 |
more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than 00:04:20.500 |
This is Jesus' way of saying, "You are not truly my disciple. 00:04:25.020 |
You are not truly saved if you give me a nice, secure, steady, high-esteemed second 00:04:32.620 |
I am number one in your life, or you're not mine." 00:04:39.420 |
This doesn't mean there's no struggle in the Christian life to treasure Jesus above 00:04:47.380 |
It just means if the steady, continued condition of your heart is to have more 00:04:55.540 |
affection for your family than for Jesus, you're not a Christian. 00:04:59.860 |
And Jesus says numerous other things like this. 00:05:04.500 |
In that tweet, I was simply echoing the strength of these words in Matthew 10:37. 00:05:15.340 |
Do I think that treasuring Jesus is part of saving faith? 00:05:20.700 |
And my answer is yes, I do believe that treasuring Jesus is part of saving faith. 00:05:28.500 |
I take it from John 1, 11, and 12 that saving faith is a receiving of Christ. 00:05:35.340 |
I think the wording of verse 12 makes it clear that John wants us to define saving 00:05:48.380 |
"He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. 00:05:52.180 |
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name," did the same thing. 00:05:59.700 |
"He gave the right to become the children of God." 00:06:03.900 |
In saying this, Jesus is not saying that anything is being added to believing or 00:06:11.580 |
added to faith as the instrument of justification. 00:06:17.340 |
It's a happy welcoming of the one who did the work and who works for us now. 00:06:24.220 |
So justifying faith, believing on Jesus, means receiving Jesus. 00:06:31.900 |
Now, what Christian hedonism does is press in to these words and asks, "What is the 00:06:48.020 |
Is it like receiving a gift you need but don't want? 00:06:53.580 |
Is it like receiving help that you like from someone you don't like? 00:07:01.380 |
Is it like receiving a package from a postman that you love receiving, but you're 00:07:12.980 |
Christian hedonism will not settle for just familiar Christian words, "Receive, 00:07:18.980 |
It presses in to the actual experience of believing and receiving Christ because it 00:07:26.060 |
knows from the Bible there are many ways to receive Christ that are not saving ways. 00:07:31.380 |
The people in John 6 received him as a king, and Jesus escaped from them, didn't 00:07:38.220 |
The brothers of Jesus in John 7 received him as a miracle worker, and he said they 00:07:47.260 |
They believed, it says, "believed on Jesus in some sense, but Jesus would not 00:07:54.820 |
Simon the magician was so blown away by the reality of the Holy Spirit, he was 00:08:04.020 |
He paid for him, and Jesus says, "Take your money and go to hell." 00:08:09.740 |
Therefore, Christian hedonism presses in to the actual experience of receiving until 00:08:27.300 |
And what does it find in receiving Christ that is saving receiving? 00:08:34.740 |
We must receive, Christian hedonism says, we must receive Christ not only as 00:08:42.140 |
rescuer, not only as master, but as supreme treasure. 00:08:49.020 |
The kingdom of heaven is like a treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and 00:08:55.580 |
covered up, and then in his joy, he sells everything he has to buy that field. 00:09:01.940 |
Or again, "Whoever loves mother or father more than me is not worthy of me." 00:09:06.260 |
Or Paul in Philippians 3.8, "I count everything as lost because of this 00:09:10.780 |
passing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord." 00:09:14.900 |
You read that in context and you'll see it's a definition of faith. 00:09:20.260 |
In other words, receiving Christ in a saving way, and remember, receiving is the 00:09:27.220 |
biblical synonym for believing, receiving Christ in a saving way means preferring 00:09:37.700 |
It means desiring him, not only what he can do. 00:09:43.500 |
Desiring, receiving, welcoming, embracing is what we exercise toward what he is. 00:09:53.740 |
We desire him, receive him, welcome him, embrace him. 00:09:58.380 |
It means being satisfied with all that God is for us in him, in Jesus, even though we 00:10:04.900 |
can't see fully at all that God is for us in Jesus. 00:10:08.500 |
We grow, we grow in that seeing and that satisfaction. 00:10:16.820 |
We don't receive Jesus in a saving way when we receive him as a ticket out of 00:10:37.580 |
If we trust him to get us into heaven, but would be satisfied with a pain-free 00:10:44.820 |
heaven without him there, we don't receive him, we use him. 00:10:48.940 |
Saving faith means receiving Jesus as our supreme treasure. 00:10:57.500 |
That kind of affection for Jesus is not peripheral add-on. 00:11:05.540 |
And I would just plead with those who are quick to pass judgment on such views that 00:11:12.020 |
they too not be satisfied with words, but press in to the meaning and the reality and 00:11:20.700 |
the real heart experiences of what it is to really embrace Jesus Christ in saving 00:11:33.140 |
We must receive Christ not only as our rescuer, not only as our master, but as 00:11:44.700 |
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Well, both Paul and Moses say they would rather be damned and let others be saved 00:12:14.060 |
So doesn't this imply that their vision of mission was a higher priority in their 00:12:19.660 |
lives than their personal and eternal joy in the presence of God? 00:12:24.380 |
In other words, didn't Paul and Moses prioritize mission over their joy in God? 00:12:32.940 |
You guys come up with some really good and hard questions.