back to indexDo the Non-Elect Have a Chance to Repent?
Chapters
0:0 Intro
1:4 My Personal Experience
5:45 Romans
8:12 Truths
10:25 Human Accountability
11:53 Conclusion
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It's hard to confirm exact numbers, but by educated guess, I would safely assume that 00:00:09.560 |
the most asked about chapter in the Bible, in our emails, are questions about Romans 9. 00:00:15.560 |
I know without any exaggeration we have hundreds of questions in the inbox on this one chapter alone. 00:00:23.000 |
And within that chapter, Romans 9.22 is very likely the most asked about text of all the 00:00:31.440 |
I know of at least 65 emails just asking about this single text, a hard text. 00:00:37.920 |
Here's one representative question from a listener named Leslie that captures the heart 00:00:44.760 |
I could use your help in my struggle with Romans 9.22. 00:00:48.360 |
It seems to me to imply that those who are not elect are not even given a chance to repent 00:00:59.400 |
Many people are created with no chance of ever being saved." 00:01:04.460 |
I'm not surprised that Romans 9 is among the texts that people have the most questions 00:01:14.580 |
Just recently I've been perusing some of my old journal entries from 1977 to 1979. 00:01:24.140 |
I was in my early 30s, and almost all of my discretionary time was spent studying and 00:01:32.180 |
writing about Romans 9, especially verses 14 to 23. 00:01:38.180 |
And it may interest our listeners that this text, which is so problematic for most of 00:01:45.700 |
us, the text which highlights the absolute sovereignty of God over salvation as clearly, 00:01:54.420 |
as forcefully as any other text in the Bible, this text was the text God used in 1979—I 00:02:04.100 |
can't even date it—December 14 to move me from being an academic theologian after 00:02:13.500 |
teaching six years in college to becoming a pastor at Bethlehem Baptist Church, where 00:02:19.340 |
I served for 33 years, and to become a pastor with a longing that God would use me to save 00:02:28.420 |
lost sinners from the cradle to the grave and to grow a strong church that would send 00:02:36.100 |
hundreds of people to the unreached peoples of the world in world missions. 00:02:41.620 |
I'm saying, I'm bearing witness that the most controversial chapter in the Bible with 00:02:46.900 |
regard to the sovereignty of God in saving sinners was the chapter that God used in those 00:02:52.220 |
years to move me out of an academic dealing with the Word of God into a frontline effort 00:02:58.980 |
to save lost sinners and strengthen the church and reach the nations. 00:03:05.180 |
And I say it because people think that if you believe in the absolute sovereignty of 00:03:10.500 |
God over the salvation of sinners, you would be disinclined to be a soul-winning pastor 00:03:21.180 |
It had the opposite effect on me as it did on William Carey, as it did on John Payton, 00:03:26.340 |
as it did on Adoniram Judson, and hundreds of other missionaries and pastors who laid 00:03:31.820 |
down their lives to reach lost people with the gospel. 00:03:37.380 |
There is such a thing as hyper-Calvinism, which is not historic Calvinism. 00:03:43.580 |
It's always been a tiny group who have twisted the Bible by their unbiblical logic to say 00:03:51.940 |
that the only people you should invite to Christ are those who give evidence of being 00:03:59.540 |
So you don't share the gospel indiscriminately like I do. 00:04:04.140 |
You wait and you look for signs among unbelievers that they might be elect. 00:04:16.100 |
It's not what any other text in the Bible teaches or implies. 00:04:20.500 |
The lover of God's sovereignty who is saturated with a big biblical view of God's power in 00:04:27.900 |
saving sinners says to every human being, every human being, without exception, words 00:04:36.540 |
like these, "Listen, everyone who thirsts, come to the waters. 00:04:46.640 |
Why do you spend your money for that which is not bread and labor for that which does 00:04:56.100 |
Everyone, absolutely everyone who received Jesus Christ as the Son of God, crucified 00:05:01.860 |
for sinners, risen from the dead, every one of you who puts your trust in him as your 00:05:09.100 |
only and precious Savior will receive with him everything that God has done through him, 00:05:16.100 |
everything that God is for you in him, you will have it all. 00:05:23.640 |
If you will have the Lord Jesus Christ, you have everything that he achieved, climaxing 00:05:35.760 |
If people will let you talk, you know, a full minute like that, that's what you say to every 00:05:43.620 |
Now here are the words from Romans 9 that cause people to stumble. 00:05:53.580 |
So God has mercy on whom he wills and he hardens whom he wills. 00:05:59.460 |
You will say then, why does he still find fault? 00:06:03.760 |
In other words, we're not asking a question Paul didn't ask, right? 00:06:07.640 |
We're not sticking, "Oh, I've got a question, Paul, that you never thought of." 00:06:15.240 |
And now Paul did not say, "Well, everybody can resist his will. 00:06:21.160 |
That's not the way he answered the question, "Who can resist his will?" 00:06:25.380 |
Verse 20, "Who are you, O man, to answer back to God?" 00:06:32.540 |
Now he did not mean by that question, "We should never ask God questions." 00:06:40.740 |
He meant, "You should never react with disapproval when he answers." 00:06:46.940 |
And he goes on, "Will what is molded say to its molder, 'Why have you made me like 00:06:56.200 |
Has the potter no right over the clay to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable 00:07:04.320 |
What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with 00:07:09.360 |
much patience the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction in order to make known the 00:07:15.040 |
riches of his glory for the vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory?" 00:07:21.200 |
Now Leslie asks, "It seems to imply that those who are not elect are not given a chance, 00:07:32.840 |
even a chance, to repent since they were born for destruction. 00:07:40.400 |
Many people are created with no chance of ever being saved?" 00:07:48.640 |
My answer, "No, that would not be a faithful, biblical way of stating the situation. 00:07:56.240 |
Let me put beside each other two biblical truths that many people consider contradictory 00:08:04.040 |
but are not, and then I'll draw out of those two truths an implication for Leslie's statement. 00:08:12.240 |
The first truth is, from all eternity, God has chosen from among the entire fallen, sinful 00:08:21.760 |
humanity a people for himself but not everyone. 00:08:28.040 |
Thus, this selection is owing to no merit at all in those chosen people. 00:08:36.120 |
God pursues their salvation not only by effectively achieving the atonement for their sin through 00:08:42.320 |
Christ but also by sovereignly overcoming all their rebellion and bringing them to saving 00:08:57.520 |
Anyone who perishes and is finally lost and cut off from God perishes because of real 00:09:07.160 |
blameworthy self-exaltation, sin, and because they are hardened against the revelations 00:09:16.340 |
of God's power and glory in nature or in the gospel. 00:09:25.760 |
Anybody who humbly wants Christ for a Savior is lost. 00:09:31.760 |
No one is judged or condemned for not knowing or believing or obeying reality to which they 00:09:42.560 |
All lostness and all judgment are owing to sin and rebellion against the revelation that 00:09:56.640 |
Now what keeps those two truths from being contradictory is this. 00:10:03.640 |
The moral accountability of man is not destroyed by the absolute sovereignty of God in salvation. 00:10:12.240 |
Or to say it another way, God's final and decisive governance of all things, including 00:10:24.040 |
It fits with all humans being morally accountable to God for whether they believe or not. 00:10:32.920 |
Now we live in a world that by and large refuses to embrace God's purposeful sovereignty 00:10:43.880 |
He works all things according to the counsel of his will. 00:10:49.000 |
People reject this largely because the only solution their minds can embrace for maintaining 00:10:56.460 |
human accountability is the presumption of ultimate human self-determination, otherwise 00:11:07.640 |
But ultimate human self-determination is not found anywhere in the Bible, nowhere. 00:11:14.700 |
But God's sovereignty is, and man's accountability is, and nowhere are these considered contradictory. 00:11:25.040 |
Therefore my response to Leslie's statement, "Many people are created with no chance 00:11:32.360 |
of ever being saved," is to say everyone is being wooed and invited by God every day, 00:11:42.440 |
either through natural revelation—the sun rising on the good and the evil, or the rain 00:11:48.740 |
falling on the good and the bad—or through conscience, or they are being wooed and invited 00:11:57.660 |
These revelations of God are their chance to be saved. 00:12:09.460 |
It is real precisely because if they humbled themselves and received God's grace, they 00:12:20.180 |
Those who do that, those who humble themselves and receive God's grace, they know that it 00:12:25.300 |
was only the sovereign grace of God that enabled them to believe. 00:12:29.000 |
And those who don't do it know that it is because of their own sin, that they loved 00:12:35.380 |
something else more than God, is why they didn't believe. 00:12:41.360 |
There will be no innocent people in hell, and there will be only forgiven sinners in 00:12:52.140 |
Thank you, Pastor John, and thank you for tackling one of the many questions about this 00:12:57.740 |
Engaging from our inbox, I know a ton of you have questions about Romans 9. 00:13:00.860 |
And hundreds of questions have come in over the years on that single chapter alone. 00:13:05.820 |
And I want to end this episode by talking about a key book, Pastor John, you wrote. 00:13:10.900 |
You mentioned those early years of 1977 and 1979, years of research and writing, that 00:13:16.300 |
became a full book on Romans 9 by the title, The Justification of God. 00:13:21.740 |
The Justification of God, one of the key John Piper titles early in his ministry. 00:13:27.420 |
As a professor, as I understand it, Pastor John had taught a Romans 9 to 11 exegesis 00:13:32.980 |
course in 1976, and that inspired him to write articles on Romans 9 with his sabbatical time. 00:13:39.260 |
In the fall of 1979, he worked those articles into a book and finished up the first draft 00:13:47.580 |
It's interesting that it was work on this book that really helped persuade him to leave 00:13:55.340 |
But nevertheless, this book, The Justification of God, was picked up and published by Baker 00:14:01.340 |
It was the second book, the first being Love Your Enemies, his doctoral dissertation published 00:14:06.220 |
But if you want a deep dive into Romans 9, this is the book to get, The Justification 00:14:13.260 |
For the full benefit, you're going to need to know some Greek and Hebrew, but nevertheless, 00:14:16.380 |
if you don't have it, you can benefit from it. 00:14:20.240 |
Years of John Piper's exegesis and thought into that book, The Justification of God. 00:14:29.060 |
Next time we look at one of the many awesome consequences of Christ's incarnation. 00:14:32.780 |
I'm your host Tony Rehnke, and I'll see you on Wednesday.