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0:0 Bestie intros: Luxury brand influencers, Birthday Party stories and more!
3:34 Jason reflects on the final Kara Swisher-hosted Code Conference, All-In media and hit piece requests
12:53 Passing of Queen Elizabeth II
15:39 Winter is Coming: Europe's energy crisis, potential fracturing of the Western Alliance, how we got here, endgame, and more
53:3 Kim Kardashian's new PE firm, content as the dominant distribution channel, what will mega-influencers do to legacy brands
63:46 Overprescribing of amphetamines to children
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point of privilege sax wore this hat last week what's this brand is this a montclair hat yeah 00:00:07.760 |
and actually did you see that that tweet people it's trending it started trending after i wore 00:00:13.280 |
it so it's sold out dude you sold out the montclair hat so we have no advertising we i feel 00:00:19.200 |
like if we're not going to do any advertising on the show we should at least get free clothes we 00:00:23.520 |
get to pick through them wear what we like i know where's my cut where's my cut as an influencer the 00:00:28.880 |
tweet basically said that i name dropped laura piana and sent it through the roof and then sax 00:00:33.040 |
they've dropped montclair both brands obviously are italian both entrepreneurs we know very well 00:00:39.200 |
uh and so i asked nat i said nat can you basically send this tweet over to them so maybe they can 00:00:43.840 |
give us free clothes let's get the griff going boys now we're talking now we got some bestie 00:00:49.120 |
griffin i know you speak in my language yeah this is his cup of tea speaking of griffs i do like 00:00:54.080 |
montclair the way that chamath likes laura piano just so you guys know at the birthday jason they 00:00:57.760 |
were the best in the world i mean i'm not saying that they're the best in the world but i'm saying 00:01:01.920 |
that they're the best in the world i mean i'm not saying that they're the best in the world but i'm 00:01:04.880 |
saying that they're the best in the world i mean i'm not saying that they're the best in the world 00:01:07.520 |
but i'm saying that they're the best in the world i mean i'm not saying that they're the best in the 00:01:10.080 |
world i mean i'm not saying that they're the best in the world i mean i'm not saying that they're 00:01:12.320 |
the best in the world i mean i'm not saying that they're the best in the world i mean i'm not saying 00:01:14.640 |
that they're the best in the world i mean i'm not saying that they're the best in the world i mean 00:01:16.800 |
i'm not saying that they're the best in the world i mean i'm not saying that they're the best in the 00:01:20.480 |
well you know what kevin hart showed up give us the best one liner which one landed oh no 00:01:24.720 |
jay kyle you have no idea these guys roasted me it was incredible but the best of it was at the end 00:01:31.440 |
kay hart gets up with no preparation and skewers everybody free birds i mean what do you think of 00:01:39.120 |
like kevin's race they were harder he was so funny he's like my wife walked in here and she looks at 00:01:44.720 |
me and she's like these these guys it was so funny bleep my out nick but it was so funny 00:01:53.200 |
he dropped a line after course well he's a ringer he's a professional 00:01:57.440 |
well he's maybe the funniest person in the world and then sax had to come after him yeah exactly 00:02:02.560 |
xander i don't know why xander was the mc but because i was gonna save kevin hart for last 00:02:09.040 |
but instead he calls up kay hart in the middle sax was so tilted 00:02:14.480 |
i i couldn't make it because i had burning man xander does the emceeing then kevin hart you were 00:02:20.960 |
saying is just to fill in the audience here so they can understand it kevin hart comes in he gives 00:02:27.280 |
this incredible ad lib roast and then sax has to go after him yeah xander did it first of all 00:02:33.680 |
xander's is funny that's a great sandbag what a sandbag it's a root canal xander's as funny as a 00:02:38.720 |
root canal he should not have been the mc so yes we did miss you jay cal you should have been the mc 00:02:43.680 |
second kay hart should have been left for last obviously of course but xander you know xander 00:02:49.840 |
being a good liberal couldn't censor me outright so he had me go after kay hart that's like the 00:02:56.160 |
next best thing did you steal his documents did you steal all his jokes and put them in your i 00:03:00.800 |
just threw i had all these like jokes written i just threw them out the window because i can't 00:03:04.080 |
what am i gonna do i'm not gonna deliver jokes after kevin hart so i just told a story you know 00:03:09.120 |
kevin hart like killed i mean the room was i mean that's like that's like getting punched by mikey 00:03:13.680 |
tyson being like oh my god that hurt it's like yeah it's mike tyson 00:03:21.520 |
we were at the the code conference we had the poker game it was the last one after 20. big shout 00:03:40.640 |
out to gary swisher big shout out to karen just i want to say uh to 00:03:43.520 |
you to the people who are watching this video and to the people who are watching this video 00:03:45.520 |
um because they did the conference many years together congratulations on a 20-year run 00:03:48.960 |
uh they're not going to do it oh cara's not going to do it next year but my friend jim bankoff who 00:03:54.240 |
runs vox is going to run it next year uh so congratulations to him and cara for a great 00:03:59.200 |
run and all things d they you know they they they had steve jobs at the first one first speaker and 00:04:04.240 |
um you can look it up i got to ask him a question jay cowell i don't know if you remember this but 00:04:07.920 |
you and i were there when uh gates and jobs uh did that speech together 00:04:13.360 |
together unbelievable what what what an incredible legacy that she documented 00:04:16.960 |
code is incredible like i mean the number of the amount of memories i have from that place 00:04:21.520 |
is incredible that's great and so we'll see where the poker game goes next year probably 00:04:24.720 |
the only summit i think the all-in summit could have been that it's it's heartbreaking it's 00:04:29.520 |
heartbreaking i'm not saying that i'll be hosting the code conference next year but you know they're 00:04:34.080 |
looking for an impresario this is the problem with this pod is we're drawing too many high 00:04:37.040 |
profile people in now um but uh interestingly freeberg and i uh we now have uh the press 00:04:43.840 |
wants the the the press are trying to do a profile of the pod and so we had three or four 00:04:48.480 |
different press outlets now i won't say which ones but have all asked us to do like a sit for 00:04:53.920 |
a profile we've said no uh but uh just because i said why don't we do a profile of them who's to 00:05:00.320 |
make them the media you know well i mean exactly our competitors our competitors want to do a piece 00:05:06.720 |
on us why would we cooperate with the audience you know it's going to be a hit a hit piece it'd 00:05:11.120 |
probably be a hit piece yeah of course because we're we're stealing influence and clicks and 00:05:16.960 |
views away from them it's definitely besides they're ideologically motivated anyway so they're 00:05:22.640 |
they're message police you don't think you're ideologically motivated listen if you contract 00:05:27.760 |
the official narrative then they write a hit piece about you that's how they try to enforce 00:05:31.760 |
discipline it's true actually but not all i like the independent ones i do have to say like this 00:05:37.680 |
whole you know sub stack movement in independent artists or independent journalists becoming 00:05:43.840 |
even more indie in fact kara swisher is more indian now she left the new york times 00:05:47.440 |
uh specifically because they were you know giving her a hard time about certain guests or certain 00:05:52.160 |
conversations and now she's you know doing her podcast independently uh with vox publishing it 00:05:57.200 |
for her so you're seeing more and more of the voices go independent new republic is doing a 00:06:00.880 |
hit piece on me right now i have no idea why it's the same thing email me and i cc them and i was 00:06:06.160 |
like here's my official comment i can't wait to visit sax when he's in the white house in 20 years 00:06:11.040 |
and the guy's like so you're saying sax is writing for a president i'm saying no i'm saying that you 00:06:15.120 |
don't understand a joke that was a joke yeah and then and then after you copied me then they're 00:06:20.480 |
like oh yeah we were reaching out to david too to get in no yeah and they hadn't reached out to you 00:06:25.600 |
yet right i hadn't reached out anyway yeah so they were going a little sneaky sneak they were trying 00:06:29.440 |
to get me i don't have time to talk to them no republic's a nice that would be a nice profile i 00:06:36.000 |
nobody reads it it's not what it used to be if it were if it were michael kinsley running the new 00:06:40.800 |
republic i'd be happy to you know take the time but it's not that anymore it's just another left 00:06:46.000 |
wing rag that's into policing speech um you know they asked they sent us a bunch of questions 00:06:51.680 |
like you know why well i don't i don't have them in front of me but they're like they're 00:06:56.720 |
basically like why did you support the recall of jason boudin stuff like that 00:07:00.400 |
and my you know pr person got back to him and said have you seen the all-in pod have you read 00:07:05.680 |
david's like twitter because he explained this like abundantly for the two years he was advocating 00:07:11.920 |
every week we talked about it we talked about this there's about a thousand words sitting 00:07:15.680 |
there in the transcripts right he's like oh he talked about in the pod he the guy didn't listen 00:07:20.400 |
to the pod he's like he tweeted about this no he just thinks i'm like some right-wing donor 00:07:26.080 |
who was like trying to get chase it kicked out that kind of narrative you know 00:07:31.360 |
so i'm like this is a total waste of my time go read all my tweets go watch the all-in pod 00:07:35.280 |
and then come back with any questions that haven't been answered that's this lazy reporting on the new 00:07:39.440 |
republic's part why would you do a profile if you didn't actually i got better two of you are having 00:07:44.000 |
a serious conversation while freeberg is around with his background what is his background 00:07:49.600 |
what is that it's a future city in saudi arabia who else is planning on doing a hit piece about us 00:07:54.480 |
okay so the information uh reached out and we said no are you going are you saying this 00:08:01.760 |
actually on the show right now i guess i think this is where we should deal with all the 00:08:04.960 |
all inbound press inquiries is we'll tell them no and then discuss it on the pod yeah because they 00:08:09.760 |
want to quote if they want to quote listen to our pod and then transcribe what we say on this pod 00:08:15.200 |
or reverse it my quote for the new republic is that if michael kinsley were still the editor 00:08:19.840 |
i'd be happy to spend my valuable time talking to you but you feel they've not they feel like 00:08:25.600 |
it would be a fair profile of course it's not going to be fair there are the speech police now 00:08:29.440 |
and the fact that you didn't even know the fact you didn't even know that i wasn't just a donor 00:08:34.640 |
on the chase of budin thing i was the first person that i'm aware of at least within silicon valley 00:08:40.800 |
who called out chase abudin for the horrible job he was i mean that was bipartisan by the way 00:08:45.360 |
it's not like david sachs is one of the three percent of san franciscans who are republican 00:08:51.520 |
like he's not able to vote for the 69 of people who voted chesa budin out so like you can't spin 00:08:58.240 |
that one you're categorizing me as like just a partisan that's not really how i come at these 00:09:02.720 |
issues can we talk about the fact that you're a partisan and you're a partisan and you're a 00:09:04.320 |
can we go back to your quotes so uh that was your comment for new republic jay cal do you have a 00:09:08.480 |
comment for new york times and then uh well no it started with eric i gotta get fair eric newcomer 00:09:13.120 |
who's awesome who worked at the information started his own sub stack um which is really 00:09:16.880 |
good by the way and he comes on my other pod um he's awesome and so i'm gonna be a guest on his 00:09:22.480 |
pod because i promised him and he does my pod but i'm not gonna be a guest my philosophy is i told 00:09:26.560 |
him i said you can have me as a guest but it can't be more than ten percent all in because 00:09:30.160 |
i don't want it to become an all-in profile we agreed as a group we're not doing an all-in profile 00:09:33.760 |
right now so up to ten percent can be about all in but the other ninety percent's gotta be my other 00:09:39.040 |
projects and he said totally fine um he understands but he has first and actually i would be inclined 00:09:43.520 |
to do with him because he's if we were gonna do it but then um what do they need i mean like we create 00:09:49.280 |
like hours and hours of content and the drama is out here for everybody to like i don't understand 00:09:54.400 |
like what is what what do you need our cooperation i think you want to no you want to maybe frame 00:09:59.440 |
uh and get a couple of sleep no you want you just want to get a couple of 00:10:03.200 |
a couple of quotes that are unique so that it's worth reading these two guys have shoved their 00:10:08.640 |
heads off each other's asses it's like a serpent a number ending serpent you're clear up here 00:10:14.160 |
clean bill of health sacks uh so anyway eric newcomer asked and then the information asked 00:10:20.160 |
and then kevin ruse no the new york times just asked right kevin ruse okay he was a nice nice 00:10:25.120 |
friend make your comment my comment in their times is uh yeah enjoy the pod while it lasts we're trying 00:10:32.640 |
to get it together i mean i'll say the other big issue is i got approached by a couple of um by two 00:10:36.800 |
different people who want to who want to represent the pod they say they're seven and a half million 00:10:41.680 |
dollars in advertising we're leaving on the table by the way 150 a week good okay and that and 00:10:48.080 |
literally that was i want that number to grow to 10 million to 20 million you guys are killing me 00:10:53.280 |
you realize i would have a plane if you guys just let me sell the heads on this thing 00:10:57.200 |
i could get like a million and a half dollars in jets yeah you would have a plane if you just did 00:11:01.040 |
one other thing you're doing a hundred different things just do one thing i'll tell you what it is 00:11:05.680 |
you'd have a plane if you're smarter that's not that's not nice sex that's not nice i would have 00:11:13.360 |
a plane if i got luckier i will say whoever said this is going to help our core businesses and 00:11:17.840 |
that's the reason i think it might have been you tomorrow i am raising my fourth fund i 00:11:23.440 |
am doing it 506c which is public i tweeted about it i had 1200 people 00:11:30.480 |
who are going to sign up for the webinar and this means i might have to increase the size of my 00:11:38.160 |
fourth venture fund because so many people listen to this pod and want to hang out so thank you to 00:11:43.680 |
everybody who listens to the pot i think for you bro i'm proud well i mean it's just nice you know 00:11:48.480 |
i you know i struggle to raise the first couple funds you guys backed me but like i couldn't 00:11:52.640 |
break through as a solo gp with the with the big lps but i'm hoping to get one big lp this time and 00:11:59.120 |
you know it's i'm going to be oversubscribed with all the 00:11:59.920 |
high net worth individuals and everything but i'd like to get like a memorial salon 00:12:03.360 |
catering or somebody doing cancer research just to feel good about it you know i just want to say 00:12:07.120 |
that i supported jcal as a friend in fact i was the first lp check in your fund but that does not 00:12:12.320 |
mean that i endorse it in any way in any way that anybody else should come in i mean whatever you're 00:12:18.800 |
i don't want to say the performance but um you're doing okay uh let's leave it at that yeah and i 00:12:24.160 |
would like to say that i was not the first but i was the biggest yeah you did you did pretty big yeah 00:12:29.360 |
absolutely and i will say that i'm still waiting for that moment to join you guys in jake house 00:12:34.480 |
yes exactly uh yeah and i'll just keep coming to your lp meetings and entertaining your lps thanks 00:12:40.880 |
pal entertaining wait is jacob an investor in production board no uh we have done we've done 00:12:46.640 |
a syndicate together you are my smallest investor you're bill lee i don't know how that happened but 00:12:52.400 |
yeah let's get to work guys do you guys want to talk about the queen the passing of the queen 00:12:56.000 |
real quick before we start or is that i would like to yeah i was born in sri lanka i was raised in 00:13:00.560 |
canada so and now i live in the united states obviously i've been a citizen of all three 00:13:04.560 |
countries so two of the three countries i've been a subject to the queen i mean i'm part of the 00:13:13.760 |
commonwealth and i just want to say it was really sad for me like these last couple days when i saw 00:13:18.720 |
that she was sick and then she had passed i gotta be honest with you like it really touched me she is 00:13:24.000 |
an incre i can't describe to you guys for someone who is part of that realm how important she is as 00:13:32.640 |
a person and then you know if you've seen you know the the show on netflix it kind of romanticizes a 00:13:40.880 |
little bit but you know she has seen 17 prime ministers she's seen so many presidents she has 00:13:47.040 |
seen the history of the world uh the modern world being made in front of her so yeah i'm a little sad 00:13:53.840 |
and i think she's an incredible person and even if you don't agree necessarily with monarchies in 00:13:59.040 |
general i think you have to be super positive or the history of imperialism there's a lot of people 00:14:03.280 |
that are kind of using this moment to be negative right jamaica wants to become a republic australia 00:14:08.960 |
wants to become a republic they'll prosecute that in due time but for right now i just think that we 00:14:15.040 |
have to celebrate this incredible woman who lived to an incredible age who saw incredible things 00:14:24.320 |
to the public service and lived it totally neutrally which in today's world nobody else does 00:14:30.640 |
everybody else takes the point of view everybody else everybody else tries to basically like 00:14:35.760 |
you know create a schism she never did that in 70 years as the queen yeah like very stoic very stoic 00:14:43.040 |
and a symbol of service not a symbol of dictatorship right i mean there seems to be a very 00:14:47.200 |
different role that she's taken as a monarch than i think what yeah has maybe historically been the 00:14:52.400 |
role of the monarch and i think that's what she's been doing for the last 20 years and i think that's 00:14:53.200 |
what she's been doing for the last 20 years and i think that's what she's been doing for the last 20 years 00:14:53.280 |
which is incredible pretty profound right it's extraordinary that somebody would put 70 years 00:14:58.240 |
of service and be that diligent uh and i think stoic and and there for her people and to the 00:15:03.840 |
people who are you know suffering and and grieving you know that word you said really resonated with 00:15:09.280 |
me like diligent is such a great word because it's like you're disciplined you put in hard work 00:15:15.200 |
you're focused on a long-term goal and then you're selfless 00:15:17.760 |
yes not many people not many people jay cowley you know this exhibit that at all 00:15:23.040 |
but then definitely don't exhibit it over 70 years it's it's extraordinary and you know it's i i know 00:15:29.360 |
a lot of people are grieving right now so you you have somebody as a citizen of the monarchy i am 00:15:33.840 |
of the commonwealth brother i am bro queen elizabeth and it deeply saddens me to see 00:15:38.640 |
that she passed away all right listen we got to talk about uh winter is coming i'm not talking 00:15:42.320 |
about game of thrones let's talk about something serious that's going on here um and we you know 00:15:45.840 |
we don't like to be too repetitive here but i think we correctly um predicted that you know this 00:15:52.800 |
is going to be a very uh very difficult year for us to see the world go to war and for you to see 00:15:58.400 |
that we're going to be in a very difficult time for us to see this world go to war and for you to see 00:16:02.640 |
that this is going to be a very difficult time for us to see this world go to war and for you to see 00:16:06.880 |
that you know we're going to be in a very difficult time for us to see this world go to war and for 00:16:11.440 |
us to see that you know we're going to be in a very difficult time for us to see this world go to war 00:16:16.720 |
and for you to see this world go to war and for you to see this world go to war