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28:48 Can I keep my weekly plan in my workingmemory.txt file?
31:26 Do you experience any pleasure during deep work?
36:8 How many deep work sessions should I do each working week?
38:42 How can I prioritize my goals in my personal life?
41:28 Does the suggestion to “limit daily goals” conflict with time blocking?
43:38 Building my career around a desired lifestyle
52:7 Countering Pushback to Limiting Social Media for Kids
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We talk a lot here about big changes, we're talking massive overhauls to how you organize 00:00:09.640 |
Today, I thought it might be fun to talk instead about some of the small things that can make 00:00:15.080 |
a surprisingly big impact on the quality of your life both personally and professionally. 00:00:22.240 |
So in today's deep dive, I have identified eight such small habits and tactics to suggest 00:00:27.840 |
to you, four of these will be related to the world of work, the other four will be related 00:00:33.520 |
to your life outside of work, all of them will be oriented at our core goal here of 00:00:38.720 |
trying to cultivate a deep life in a world that's increasingly drowning in digital distractions. 00:00:43.600 |
Now, here's a key point about what we're about to do here. 00:00:47.840 |
These are small, unusual or interesting habits, not the major things, the major classic pieces 00:00:55.140 |
of advice that I talk about on this show and in my book, so we're not going to talk about 00:00:58.440 |
the heavy hitters, the protecting deep work, the practicing multiscale planning, the becoming 00:01:04.040 |
a digital minimalist, using pull instead of push for workload management, these sort of 00:01:10.720 |
Today's goal is to small things that sometimes get missed, the surprisingly small ideas that 00:01:17.520 |
I've mentioned most of these before in passing, but I'm gathering them for the first time 00:01:23.840 |
Two other quick notes, this is not a comprehensive list, just a bunch of things I thought were 00:01:29.060 |
There's a lot of things I'm missing that are probably important. 00:01:32.700 |
You don't have to do everything on this list to enjoy the benefits of a deeper life, pick 00:01:40.700 |
We will start with small ideas to make a big difference in the world of work. 00:01:47.140 |
Here's my first idea, reciprocal meeting blocks. 00:01:55.420 |
Every time in your context as a knowledge worker in the world of digital technology, 00:02:00.340 |
every time someone says, "Hey, let's have a meeting that you have to schedule," I want 00:02:04.740 |
you to schedule a corresponding block of time for the same week that you will then protect 00:02:13.660 |
Now, you have some give here in terms of the ratio. 00:02:20.680 |
I'm going to find one hour somewhere else in my week to protect time for deep work. 00:02:25.640 |
You could also go with different ratios depending on your job. 00:02:28.380 |
Maybe for every hour of meeting you schedule, you put in a half hour deep work somewhere 00:02:36.320 |
For every hour of meeting I schedule, I want two plus blocks I'm going to schedule to protect 00:02:41.440 |
It just depends on the details of what you actually do. 00:02:48.880 |
It doesn't force you to become too rigid about when you have meetings. 00:02:52.980 |
I have a suggestion later on in this list of a more rigid way to deal with meetings, 00:02:58.080 |
This takes no time a priori off the table, but what it also does is create a governor 00:03:07.600 |
As more meetings get scheduled for a week, more time gets grayed out. 00:03:12.860 |
There's less time left for a meeting to fit in that week and more meetings just won't 00:03:18.940 |
It ensures that in your quest in the moment to be responsive to the needs of other people 00:03:25.260 |
in your digital office, that you don't have your schedule become overly saturated with 00:03:30.580 |
I want to give you a bonus sub tip here, it's related. 00:03:35.500 |
When you schedule a meeting on your calendar, add 20 minutes to the end. 00:03:42.400 |
It gives you time after the scheduled meeting is over to first of all, take progress, make 00:03:48.220 |
progress and organize the stuff that came out of the meeting to make sure that the obligations 00:03:52.880 |
that arose get written down and whatever systems you use to track your obligations. 00:03:58.160 |
If there's quick things you can do right away, like, okay, I promised to send out this file 00:04:02.440 |
and to follow up with someone else, you can do that right there. 00:04:05.200 |
So it doesn't have to just float in the back of your mind. 00:04:08.100 |
It also gives your mind chance to just clear out the attention residue of the meeting to 00:04:13.020 |
begin to recover from the cognitive act of being part of that focused discussion, so 00:04:18.320 |
that it'll be easier to move on to what's next. 00:04:21.400 |
Without these recovery blocks, if you go from meeting to meeting, it's difficult because 00:04:24.640 |
a the small tasks generated by the meeting will sit in your head, taking up resources, 00:04:32.100 |
It's just sitting there distracting you as you move on to the next meeting. 00:04:34.600 |
And it can be whiplash, cognitive whiplash to go from one meeting to another recovery 00:04:39.960 |
Again, this is all tricks for playing with your calendar and meetings. 00:04:44.720 |
All right, here's my second small idea, work quotas. 00:04:50.840 |
For common types of work tasks that you're asked to do on a regular basis and that are 00:04:55.520 |
important to your job, the things you can't just not do, establish quotas. 00:05:03.080 |
Here is how many of this particular types of projects I do per month, or maybe per quarter, 00:05:09.960 |
or maybe per year, depending on the type of work we're talking about. 00:05:14.880 |
And when you have these quotas, here's what happens. 00:05:16.560 |
You can say yes to these things until the quota is full. 00:05:19.840 |
Once the quota is full, you have to start saying no, because your quota is full, but 00:05:26.640 |
You can say to the interested party, you know, thanks for the request. 00:05:31.220 |
This is obviously an important part of what I do. 00:05:34.400 |
I maintain a quota of doing five of these per season, and I've already hit that quota, 00:05:38.340 |
so I can't take this on right now, but you know, I'm going to continue to be engaged 00:05:43.720 |
The nice thing about the quota rationale is that it's hard to push back against. 00:05:48.600 |
If I'm the person who wants you to do something, yes, I want you to do it. 00:05:51.840 |
But if you say I have a quota, and it's a reasonable quota, and you've hit that quota, 00:05:56.420 |
my only comeback at this point is your quota should be bigger. 00:06:00.600 |
If your quota is reasonable, they're like, well, that's a lot of work, so let's be concrete 00:06:05.040 |
You know, I have a quota for peer review requests. 00:06:13.280 |
I get way more requests than I can possibly actually fulfill. 00:06:18.500 |
When I come back and say, OK, you know, I've already hit my quota for this semester. 00:06:23.840 |
If that number is pretty large for the requesting person, like, OK, you're doing a lot of reviews, 00:06:28.360 |
and that's a reasonable amount of reviews to do, and it's reasonable that you're done 00:06:31.080 |
for this semester, let me move on to someone else. 00:06:35.640 |
It's much more precise than simply saying, I don't know, I'm busy, because everyone's 00:06:39.840 |
They want you to do this thing to make their life easier. 00:06:48.720 |
Predictably look ahead and be willing to use the quota to turn down requests before the 00:06:58.800 |
If you know, like in my case, that there's some number of peer review papers you do each 00:07:02.800 |
semester and a request comes in, and it's not a very important review, the paper's maybe 00:07:09.360 |
not, by not important, I mean not important for you. 00:07:11.660 |
So maybe it's not a great mix, a match for your expertise, or it's not a very good venue. 00:07:17.240 |
You can say, look, I'm coming close to my quota for papers for this semester, and I 00:07:23.040 |
want to leave the last final spots for some papers I expect that are coming up. 00:07:29.200 |
Papers that are maybe like a stronger match for my expertise. 00:07:32.520 |
Or you might have a specific reason to expect in the near future you're going to have some 00:07:39.520 |
So it might be like, look, I need to wait here because there's this big conference in 00:07:47.320 |
So you can predictably turn things down based on your assumption that better things for 00:07:55.480 |
You're still doing important things, but you are controlling the load, the number of those 00:08:00.640 |
All right, small habit or ritual or task, tactic number three, coordination Mondays 00:08:09.500 |
And this is the third of our four work-related small things to make a big difference. 00:08:17.860 |
Coordination Mondays and summer Fridays is a philosophy for thinking about how you deal 00:08:26.020 |
So coordination Mondays, this concept says, I think about Mondays as the day where it's 00:08:30.700 |
all about organizing my work and collaboration. 00:08:34.020 |
It's where I get a handle on what's going on. 00:08:37.100 |
I learn more about things that need to be done. 00:08:40.340 |
I organize and make sense of the work that has been done and get a better sense of what's 00:08:47.040 |
So what this means, for example, is if you're going to ask someone for a meeting, you're 00:08:55.140 |
Whatever it is, the work he wants me to do, or she wants me to do or the work we're working 00:09:00.260 |
Your default is like, hey, let's find some time on Monday. 00:09:06.180 |
You can also have a really big prominent office hours on these Mondays, a big two hour block, 00:09:12.740 |
where a lot of these meetings, instead of actually scheduling them individually, so 00:09:15.580 |
just any time during this two hours on Monday, just like call me or stop by my office and 00:09:20.380 |
Like your mode on Monday is I want to talk about projects, I want to talk to other people 00:09:24.680 |
about projects, I want to figure out where things stand. 00:09:27.380 |
You can also spend the first hour to 90 minutes of your day and coordination Mondays just 00:09:31.780 |
working on your own plans, getting your weekly plan in place, looking through your task systems 00:09:37.860 |
and cleaning that up and organizing it all of the sort of maintenance of keeping an organized 00:09:46.720 |
Someone asked you for a meeting, hey, can we talk to get into this like, yeah, I try 00:09:49.460 |
to like, dedicate my Mondays to getting my arms around things. 00:09:53.980 |
In fact, you can even have a scheduling application for Monday where you have, you know, all of 00:10:00.740 |
your non-office hour times between 11am at the end of the day, just available for meeting 00:10:05.220 |
slots and just throw this link at people like candy on Halloween or beads on Mardi Gras. 00:10:12.220 |
Yeah, let's grab a time, grab a time, anyone bothering you, grab a time on Monday, grab 00:10:19.140 |
If you can get away with this, it makes a big difference because what happens on Tuesday, 00:10:22.460 |
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, they're much more clear. 00:10:25.780 |
You're able to actually make progress on work, this focus on something for a long amount 00:10:31.260 |
of time to get your, to get your head around something without having to constantly switch 00:10:36.480 |
And the coordination Monday is such a simple heuristic. 00:10:39.700 |
You don't have to remember a lot of complicated scheduling details in the moment. 00:10:42.980 |
You just have this simple heuristic push to Monday, push to Monday. 00:10:45.300 |
So now you can really handle all these incoming and outgoing requests to chat or talk and 00:10:50.340 |
You can handle with handle them all easily by just deferring to Monday. 00:10:55.060 |
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Well, summer Friday is a reference to how the publishing industry schedules their work 00:11:28.500 |
during the summer, which is they end work early on Fridays. 00:11:32.060 |
Traditionally, this is when the old school editors needed to leave early to get to their 00:11:39.960 |
Now it just becomes a perk of the publishing industry. 00:11:46.120 |
They lean into this by saying Fridays are half days, they're not meeting days. 00:11:50.100 |
You get in, you get some stuff done, have a longer weekend. 00:11:58.220 |
It all comes down to your scheduling decisions in the moment. 00:12:01.540 |
Don't offer up Friday afternoons for meetings. 00:12:05.100 |
If someone asks you, I'm busy then, but how about Monday or whatever day, right? 00:12:10.060 |
That will eliminate 95% of your Friday afternoon meetings. 00:12:14.300 |
Now what this allows you to do is to have a real good shutdown at like one o'clock or 00:12:19.140 |
two o'clock on Fridays, and then without making a big deal of it, move on to something else. 00:12:23.240 |
If you have a lot of autonomy, just move on and have an afternoon to unwind. 00:12:27.540 |
If you don't have a lot of autonomy, then you have to sort of fake being around. 00:12:30.700 |
You maybe still have to be in your office or do a symbolic email response block at 4:30, 00:12:38.940 |
but you can be checking up mentally, working on another project, reading, exercising, doing 00:12:45.580 |
Just having this slow windup into the weekend makes a big difference. 00:12:50.220 |
That little bit of extra time when the world is still working makes a big difference. 00:12:53.980 |
Coordination Mondays, summer Fridays, it's all about how you conceptually think about 00:12:58.780 |
your schedule, but it makes a really big difference, especially in a sort of highly distracted 00:13:03.240 |
All right, my fourth piece of advice, this is a small thing, but a common thing. 00:13:09.060 |
I'm just going to emphasize it again and again. 00:13:12.140 |
If you work at a computer, you need to use a working memory.txt file. 00:13:24.300 |
I use a Mac, so I'm using TextEdit, and I make the text file plain formatting. 00:13:35.620 |
Throughout the day, it is what you use as an extension of your brain. 00:13:41.180 |
When you're working on a particular project, the working memory.txt, you type things in 00:13:45.180 |
so you don't have to hold it all straight in your head. 00:13:46.860 |
You're trying to think about what are the four points I want to make in this presentation. 00:13:53.200 |
When you're in a meeting and there's, okay, action items are coming up, suggestions, things 00:13:57.740 |
you need to do are coming up, you're taking those notes just right there on working memory.txt. 00:14:01.140 |
You have a place to put that where it's not just in your head. 00:14:04.540 |
When you're cleaning your inbox, you're putting notes in there. 00:14:08.660 |
You're keeping track of like, okay, this message, I need to do this, remember to do this. 00:14:12.660 |
You're just writing down as fast as you can type, like summaries of stuff you have to 00:14:15.940 |
do as you clear through these messages in your inbox. 00:14:20.100 |
Almost whatever you're doing, it is an extension where you hold information that can't all 00:14:24.100 |
And then you process all that information next time you get a chance. 00:14:26.340 |
When you're cleaning your inbox, taking things out of the actual inbox, you might be growing 00:14:31.980 |
this list of different things that came out of this inbox. 00:14:35.860 |
And then when you're done processing your inbox, you make sense of this list, you realize 00:14:38.820 |
a few of these things you can skip, a couple you deal with there, the other things you 00:14:41.900 |
move on to your calendar till your to-do list. 00:14:43.900 |
But this memory sits here because you can't keep this all track of all this in your head. 00:14:53.020 |
You can just type as fast as you're thinking, as fast as people are saying things. 00:14:57.480 |
Don't worry about formatting, just rock and roll on this list. 00:15:02.020 |
My workingmemory.txt grows and contracts throughout the day. 00:15:06.760 |
And if I have an interruption, I can come back later that day or the next day and know 00:15:11.280 |
exactly what was going on by seeing what notes were left in the workingmemory.txt file. 00:15:15.180 |
So this is a key bit of cybernetic productivity, but it's critical. 00:15:19.820 |
You work at a computer, use a workingmemory.txt file to be a literal digital extension of 00:15:26.380 |
All right, so those are ideas for the world of work. 00:15:30.620 |
Let's give a couple quick ideas here, small things that make a big difference for living 00:15:37.940 |
The first thing I want to suggest here is the use of single purpose notebooks. 00:15:43.340 |
And this is something we discussed on the show, I think a couple months ago. 00:15:46.020 |
But the idea is the following, when you have a particular problem that's particularly complicated 00:15:51.620 |
that you're working on, and this could be a personal problem, like you're trying to 00:15:55.580 |
figure out how do I fix this part of my life or this unhappiness I have, or it could be 00:16:00.140 |
a particular professional problem, sure, like, what is this a book I want to write going 00:16:08.340 |
It's a struggling and I want to make it more successful, or it's successful, but I'm drowning. 00:16:12.300 |
I want to reimagine what my company could be like when it was less overwhelming. 00:16:17.060 |
Whatever the problem is, dedicate a single small notebook to this problem. 00:16:31.060 |
I like Uniball Micro 0.5 millimeter ballpoint pens, but you can use whatever you prefer 00:16:41.720 |
Now whenever you have a thought about the single problem, you have a single place to 00:16:47.460 |
Now you can go, you know, on a dedicated thinking excursion, like, okay, I'm going to go to 00:16:54.540 |
this coffee shop and just think for 20 minutes about this problem. 00:17:00.580 |
The notes accrete in this notebook, and over time, it's going to help you come up with 00:17:10.340 |
Now the key about this is by having this notebook with you wherever you go, by having a ready-made 00:17:14.560 |
place to put thoughts or insights as they arrive, you're going to get probably 5X more 00:17:20.180 |
brain power than if you just instead say, "I'm going to schedule a time to sit and think 00:17:25.380 |
about this problem," or "I'm going to get together with someone and we're going to talk 00:17:28.780 |
about this problem and solve it in a meeting." 00:17:31.780 |
Because you're tapping so much more of your brain in so many different more mind states. 00:17:35.780 |
You're tapping so many more momentary insights and fresh starts and bursts of energy. 00:17:40.580 |
It is an accelerant to the insight that your brain can generate when you have a notebook 00:17:46.460 |
with you at all times dedicated to a single problem. 00:17:50.940 |
I suggest it for making sense of your life or any other big problem you're facing. 00:17:56.460 |
Second small thing for your life outside of work, take thinking walks, preferably every 00:18:03.220 |
Now, a thinking walk is where you go for a walk. 00:18:08.800 |
Go for a walk and think about yourself, your life, or something that's on your mind. 00:18:19.220 |
You're toying with a fantasy of what if we moved over here or a new hobby you're into. 00:18:26.220 |
Or it could be something like, "I'm excited about something. 00:18:29.780 |
Let me go think about it, what this means," or "I'm upset or ashamed of something. 00:18:39.060 |
It's being alone with your own thoughts and enjoying the company of your own thoughts. 00:18:44.340 |
Do this walking, not sitting, not in a car, not in a train, but actually out there walking 00:18:56.380 |
This is how humans make sense of the messiness that is life. 00:18:59.140 |
This is how humans find meaning and resilience among the hardness. 00:19:03.320 |
They have to grapple with the world within their own interiority, and this requires thinking, 00:19:11.980 |
Now, there's a couple other benefits you get from this. 00:19:19.140 |
You feel the different changes in the weather. 00:19:21.220 |
It's just going to be good for you as a human. 00:19:23.620 |
It also gets you used to not always having a screen to distract you at a moment's notice. 00:19:28.020 |
You'll break that dopamine loop where it says, "Man, we are so close to getting a screen 00:19:35.900 |
Because when you're doing a thinking walk, you're not looking at your screen. 00:19:38.420 |
It really does make your life shift from black and white to technicolor when you're able 00:19:44.340 |
to spend time to actually make sense of what you're seeing on this metaphorical screen. 00:19:48.260 |
All right, third piece of advice for life outside of work, never post. 00:19:54.140 |
Again, something we've talked about recently on the show, but I want to underscore here. 00:20:03.460 |
There's definitely some positive information or purposes that people deploy with social 00:20:10.820 |
But I'm going to argue, don't post unless you really, really have to. 00:20:13.660 |
If you run a business or you're a public figure, sure, have a professional posting schedule 00:20:24.900 |
Preferably have someone else do the posting for you. 00:20:28.980 |
But if you're not a public figure, just don't post. 00:20:33.420 |
It's in the posting that you get the deepest tendrils of the social media addiction mind 00:20:41.500 |
It's when you post that you begin to obsess over what these faceless digital denizens 00:20:49.580 |
It's where you get the anxiety of do they like this, the euphoria of they do and the 00:20:54.780 |
You get the isolation and life destruction of canceling campaigns or imagine canceling 00:20:59.420 |
campaigns that might come if you just say or don't do the right thing. 00:21:03.160 |
That's what begins to warp your understanding of the world to be based off of the feedback 00:21:07.860 |
you're getting from this very artificial algorithmically amplified crowd. 00:21:14.740 |
It's most likely going to create a digital cage of unhappiness. 00:21:21.140 |
If there's certain things you like to consume, like, yeah, I'm a baseball fan. 00:21:24.660 |
I like to see what this reporter has to say about my baseball team. 00:21:33.440 |
The independent media I'm interested in breaks stories on Twitter and that's interesting 00:21:39.700 |
But just don't post yourself unless you're in a situation where it's really notable that 00:21:43.960 |
And even if you are in that situation, consider don't posting. 00:21:46.620 |
I don't post on social media, and I somehow still managed to get by. 00:21:50.380 |
All right, final small thing I want to suggest here that can make a big difference. 00:22:02.680 |
It's not a binary that you choose to be disciplined or not. 00:22:08.580 |
The more you practice discipline, the more comfortable you are doing hard things that 00:22:11.860 |
aren't going to give you rewards in the moment. 00:22:14.060 |
The more comfortable you are sticking with hard things, even when other distractions 00:22:17.100 |
are pulling at you, the more disciplined you are, the more likely you are to keep reorienting 00:22:21.460 |
your actions around the things you care about most, even if they don't lead to the easiest 00:22:28.100 |
The more you practice discipline, the higher the threshold gets, and therefore the easier 00:22:32.820 |
it is to do these demonstrations of discipline. 00:22:37.620 |
So the best way to begin practicing discipline, to see yourself more as a disciplined person, 00:22:44.060 |
And when you're done with that, do another thing hard, and then something else. 00:22:47.300 |
You will change your self-conception if you do this. 00:22:50.360 |
As your discipline threshold grows, you'll quite literally see yourself more and more 00:22:54.020 |
as someone who can resist things you shouldn't be doing and do the things you should be doing, 00:23:02.580 |
Physical things tend to work well for people as a starting point here. 00:23:05.260 |
I'm going to change something about my diet, I'm going to change something about my exercise. 00:23:10.280 |
It really should be hard, but also don't do too many things. 00:23:12.800 |
Don't say I'm going to overhaul all of my health. 00:23:14.900 |
Instead say, you know, I'm not going to drink at all for three months, or I'm going to do 00:23:19.100 |
a workout, even if it's only 15 minutes, I'll start easy every single day. 00:23:22.660 |
I'm just going to make that a big part of my life. 00:23:25.860 |
It could also be intellectual, I'm going to read this collection of great books. 00:23:29.100 |
It could be craft oriented, I'm finally going to build this canoe, but it's going to require 00:23:32.500 |
a lot of skills, but I'm just going to do this thing. 00:23:34.700 |
You need to be a little bit obsessive about the thing, you need to schedule time in advance, 00:23:37.580 |
you need to come back to it relentlessly, prioritize it above other non-professional, 00:23:44.260 |
But do something hard, and then when you're done, do something else hard. 00:23:47.260 |
Get in a habit of doing hard things that are not required. 00:23:51.980 |
Your discipline threshold will grow, your identity as a disciplined person will solidify, 00:23:56.580 |
and this will be the fuel for almost anything else you want to do as part of the quest to 00:24:00.020 |
cultivate a deeper life in a distracted world. 00:24:03.900 |
All right, so those are my eight small things that I think will make a big difference. 00:24:09.840 |
For work, use reciprocal meeting blocks, use work quotas, implement coordination Mondays 00:24:15.660 |
and summer Fridays, and always have workingmemory.txt open. 00:24:19.620 |
For life outside of work, use single-purpose notebooks for big challenges, take thinking 00:24:23.060 |
walks daily, never post if you can avoid it, and do something hard all the time. 00:24:29.780 |
Once you're done with something else hard, do something after that, and after that, and 00:24:35.060 |
These aren't the major heavy hitter advice I have, but it's sometimes these small things 00:24:38.060 |
that can add up to make the biggest difference. 00:24:43.460 |
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Without Jesse here to ask the questions, I got a coffee up. 00:28:47.000 |
To those who are watching instead of just listening, you can see I'm taking my coffee 00:28:59.640 |
Kurt says, "I'm a devout user of the Time Block Planner. 00:29:03.520 |
However, I struggle to use the weekly plan space, partially because of my atrocious handwriting, 00:29:08.760 |
but also because the weekly plan changes so much in the week. 00:29:11.840 |
I recall you talking about when you make your weekly plan, you will read through your Trello 00:29:16.120 |
cards and notes and then make your plan in your working memory.txt. 00:29:21.640 |
That's where my weekly plan has been stored, but you recently spoke of wiping that text 00:29:34.000 |
A lot of people like to handwrite the weekly plan because it makes it concrete, it slows 00:29:41.980 |
So that's why we have a space in the Time Block Planner each week for writing your weekly 00:29:48.080 |
Other people prefer to do it digitally because they type faster than they write. 00:29:51.280 |
They like to make verbose weekly plans, so too big to put in a planner space. 00:30:00.840 |
So if that's you, digital is completely fine. 00:30:09.760 |
When I put it in working memory.txt, I just put it at the top of the file, and I build 00:30:15.360 |
It's like equal sign lines across, capital, weekly plan, line of equal signs. 00:30:23.940 |
Weekly plan there, dividing line of equal signs, and I don't wipe that part of working 00:30:27.920 |
memory.txt, and everything below it is to working memory.txt that I then manipulate. 00:30:32.920 |
Other people like to email their weekly plan to themselves. 00:30:35.040 |
They just have that comfort of when they check their inbox, they see it there. 00:30:42.380 |
Some people just put it in its own dedicated text file. 00:30:45.200 |
Some people will put it in a dedicated file and print it and have the printout at their 00:30:49.600 |
And then if they change the weekly plan, they print a new copy. 00:30:51.160 |
So they have a printed version to look at each day, so they don't have to be on their 00:30:54.120 |
computer to see what they're supposed to be doing. 00:31:00.560 |
This is part of the secret sauce of my multi-scale planning. 00:31:04.200 |
Looking at the week ahead, figuring out what needs to be done, where you're going to do 00:31:08.320 |
it, what you might need to move really makes a big difference. 00:31:11.460 |
If you just take each day as it comes, your aperture is too narrow. 00:31:16.560 |
You really do want to plan for the whole week. 00:31:25.480 |
Nicole said, "I've just realized I am nowhere in life because I always give myself what 00:31:32.500 |
If I want a carbonated drink, I'll give it to myself. 00:31:38.620 |
So it seemed that to succeed in life, your pleasure comes after the hard work. 00:31:42.260 |
Do you experience any pleasure during deep work?" 00:31:45.420 |
Well, Nicole, we have to think about a couple different types of pleasure here. 00:31:59.780 |
And I'm not using dopamine here in this sort of vague sense that we sometimes hear about 00:32:05.260 |
it's just addiction or dopamine makes me do things. 00:32:09.540 |
But if we get really specific about the dopamine system, what it does is it gives you this 00:32:18.060 |
Like you're near something like that carbonated drink and your mind associates that, like 00:32:25.720 |
Dopamine floods your brain and it gives you this sense of sort of compulsion attraction 00:32:31.740 |
This is the relationship, of course, we have with our phones often. 00:32:34.840 |
Our mind's like, we're probably going to see something on there that could be like interesting. 00:32:38.460 |
It could be an email about us with good news. 00:32:45.700 |
So dopamine response, and the dopamine response is that compulsive sense of like, I need to 00:32:51.900 |
Dopamine derived pleasures are often moderate. 00:32:54.540 |
When you do finally drink that carbonated soda or you do look at that phone, you're 00:33:09.080 |
So the compulsion is not because this, I'm going to feel really great. 00:33:12.240 |
It's just your mind's like, we want good things. 00:33:14.840 |
When you do something hard, like you're working on a book chapter and it's really hard, you're 00:33:21.260 |
It's more of like a deliberate practice state. 00:33:23.980 |
There's a deeper pleasure that you get out of that. 00:33:26.080 |
And especially once it's done, that does not come from the dopamine system. 00:33:29.080 |
It instead comes from the future prediction system. 00:33:31.840 |
The part of your brain that predicts the future says doing this longer term thing is good 00:33:41.960 |
This future prediction system makes you feel good when plans are executed, but it's a deeper, 00:33:55.500 |
I'm paraphrasing Matt Crawford here as I often do. 00:33:57.740 |
The quiet satisfactions of being able to point to an intention made concrete manifestly in 00:34:08.420 |
I accomplished a plan that I thought was useful pleasure. 00:34:11.080 |
That's what you really want to get "addicted" to, Nicole. 00:34:15.300 |
That feeling of I'm making progress on an important plan that leads me to something 00:34:20.940 |
Not the dopamine pleasure of this might feel good in the moment. 00:34:24.860 |
And then you do it and it doesn't match up to that intense compulsion you felt in the 00:34:29.520 |
So yeah, there are different types of pleasures. 00:34:31.780 |
To practice this deeper sort of pleasure, discipline matters. 00:34:36.960 |
So go back to the deep dive where I recommended practicing doing hard things. 00:34:42.040 |
That just gets you used to what that type of satisfaction feels like and makes it something 00:34:49.720 |
You can also deprogram the dopamine pleasures. 00:34:54.500 |
One, just be more comfortable with discomfort. 00:34:57.140 |
I'm sort of stealing this idea from Michael Easter and his book, The Comfort Crisis. 00:35:01.380 |
Your brain might say, "I'm bored and I really want to look at the TV right now. 00:35:07.860 |
And you say, "I'm just not going to do that because that's not in my plan right now. 00:35:12.340 |
And just be like, "I'm going to feel uncomfortable about that. 00:35:14.060 |
My brain will rebel and I'm going to feel bored and bad, and then it will get better. 00:35:20.300 |
So just being more comfortable with the discomfort that follows from defying your dopamine system 00:35:28.540 |
Also for deactivating these dopamine responses around specific things, have alternative habits 00:35:38.860 |
Have an alternative thing you do that gives you a different type of reward and just relentlessly 00:35:44.380 |
go to the alternative activity when you feel the compulsion for the thing you're trying 00:35:49.420 |
So you can deprogram some of these dopamine responses. 00:35:51.100 |
But yes, to get to your original question, there's a sort of a deeper satisfaction that 00:35:55.940 |
comes from executing a hard but worthwhile plan that's very different than dopamine-driven 00:36:00.620 |
It's the type of satisfaction you want to reorient your life more around. 00:36:04.500 |
All right, rolling along here, we got a question from Mike. 00:36:14.260 |
Mike says, "On a weekly basis, what is a good number of deep work sessions to strive for, 00:36:18.940 |
assuming my typical work week is Monday through Friday?" 00:36:24.300 |
In my book, Deep Work, I talk about your ideal deep to shallow work ratio, where I say you 00:36:28.620 |
should identify for your particular job in a typical week. 00:36:33.420 |
What is the ideal ratio of deep work hours to non-deep work hours for being as useful 00:36:40.160 |
For some jobs, this will be pretty high, like mainly what they need you to do is deep work 00:36:43.380 |
with just like a small amount of shallow work to sort of keep up with administrative things. 00:36:48.900 |
There are some things we want you to do that require uninterrupted hours, but there's a 00:36:52.660 |
ton of stuff we need you to do that we need you to be more responsive. 00:36:55.660 |
You need to know what the answer is, what your ratio is for your particular job. 00:37:00.020 |
I suggest talk to your boss or supervisor about this. 00:37:04.160 |
Work with them to get this answer so they have skin in the game on this is the ratio 00:37:13.840 |
And if you're getting much less, hitting much less that number, now you have impetus to 00:37:19.100 |
It's not just a generic sense of I should do more deep work. 00:37:22.260 |
Because I'm trying to get to 12 hours, I'm trying to get to 25 hours, I'm well short, 00:37:27.940 |
It also gets your boss or your team on board. 00:37:30.940 |
Because now you're able to say, hey, remember how we agreed that let's say, for example, 00:37:35.940 |
50/50 deep to shallow work is ideal for me being valuable for this company. 00:37:40.340 |
I'm only getting 20% deep work to 80 shallow. 00:37:45.380 |
And you would be surprised once you have a real metric that has a positive purpose, you'd 00:37:49.260 |
be surprised by how many changes will now be possible, how many changes the boss will 00:37:54.380 |
now suggest, oh, let's do this, let's do that. 00:37:56.460 |
Because you're working towards a positive metric. 00:37:59.300 |
One tweak I want to add, because I talked about the deep to shallow work ratio a lot, 00:38:02.540 |
and there's some complexities around it, one tweak I want to add. 00:38:06.900 |
When measuring this, your deep to shallow work hours, you needed a full hour dedicated 00:38:12.980 |
to deep work for it to count as deep work hour. 00:38:14.860 |
So you can't have like 20 minutes here, 40 minutes here, 30 minutes there and 30 minutes 00:38:18.500 |
there and say, okay, that's two hours of deep work, because if you don't have at least a 00:38:21.620 |
full hour, you're not really getting the benefits of non-distraction, you still are dealing 00:38:26.020 |
with the intention residue from the thing before too much, it's too fragmented. 00:38:29.460 |
You need to count up like sessions, deep work sessions that last at least an hour to add 00:38:35.020 |
their minutes to your total deep work count when calculating these ratios. 00:38:39.500 |
All right, another deep work question here, this one comes from Sam. 00:38:46.100 |
Sam says, I just read the section in deep work about the four disciplines of execution, 00:38:51.980 |
the first being to focus on the wildly important. 00:38:57.740 |
I have so many goals I want to pursue, and I find it difficult to prioritize all of them. 00:39:02.260 |
Well, Sam, what I typically suggest is that you first need to divide your personal life 00:39:06.380 |
into different areas that you find important. 00:39:09.300 |
We often use the lingo of buckets here on the show, it's like a bucket for like family 00:39:13.980 |
and community, a bucket for constitution, like your health, a bucket for contemplation, 00:39:18.060 |
this is like theological or philosophical foundations for how you live, a bucket sometimes 00:39:22.020 |
for what we call celebration, that's finding appreciation in the world and life, connoisseurship 00:39:30.060 |
All right, once you have these different areas, now I would suggest spend some time with each, 00:39:39.980 |
We're talking three to six weeks per each, all right, I'm going to spend this month just 00:39:43.020 |
thinking about this area of my life and clean it up. 00:39:48.580 |
Get rid of some bad habits, put in place some new habits, if there's some one-time things 00:39:52.180 |
to do, I'm going to buy this workout equipment, I'm going to join this gym, I'm going to get 00:39:57.980 |
my guitar out and reworked again, whatever it is, one-time things, new habits, get rid 00:40:02.740 |
of the old habits, just overhaul that part of your life in a sustainable way, then move 00:40:07.100 |
So this could take you the better part of half a year before you have sort of the different 00:40:12.220 |
areas of your life that matter, at least all running in a reasonable way. 00:40:18.780 |
Now you can think about some larger goals in your personal life, some more ambitious 00:40:22.540 |
or radical goals, and again, I would do these one at a time. 00:40:26.980 |
In this part of my life, I have this like major new initiative. 00:40:30.380 |
That's what I'm working on, okay, and then once that's done, all right, what do I want 00:40:35.460 |
I mean, this is a really busy part of my professional life, so I don't want any major personal goals, 00:40:39.060 |
but when the summer comes, I'm going to take on another one. 00:40:43.740 |
So this first thing is going to give you a good foundation for your life. 00:40:46.380 |
You're addressing the parts that are important, you're paying attention to them, and then 00:40:50.700 |
in the short term, it might seem hopelessly slow that you're only working on one part 00:40:57.460 |
of your life for the next month or two, and all these other parts of your life, you have 00:41:00.700 |
these big ideas for radical plans, but let's zoom out to the scale of a couple of years. 00:41:06.980 |
Now suddenly, the amount of big goals in your personal life you accomplish is going to add 00:41:10.900 |
up, and it's going to seem very impressive, and you're going to feel very deep. 00:41:13.660 |
So you've just got to have some patience with this. 00:41:18.940 |
All right, this brings us to our final question, which is also our slow productivity corner 00:41:27.860 |
I don't know if Jesse's going to be able to add the music or not in post. 00:41:30.860 |
I hope he does, because I love the slow productivity corner theme music, and whether we have the 00:41:36.820 |
music or not, I can remind you what the slow productivity corner is, is where I answer 00:41:40.060 |
a question each week that's related to my new book, Slow Productivity, The Lost Art 00:41:47.140 |
Look, if you like especially the first part of this show, those ideas of these small things, 00:41:55.540 |
If you're a fan of the show, you need that book. 00:41:57.220 |
It's like the source guide for the book, so check that out wherever you buy books, Slow 00:42:01.680 |
All right, what's our slow productivity corner question of the week? 00:42:03.900 |
It's from Adan, who says, "I am currently re-reading your latest book, Slow Productivity. 00:42:13.580 |
In the section Limit Daily Goals, you emphasize focusing on one task per workday. 00:42:18.660 |
This is a great idea, but it seems somewhat incongruent with time blocking, which seems 00:42:24.060 |
to be useful for managing lots of different tasks within the same day." 00:42:32.660 |
Limit Daily Goals is talking about the major initiatives that you work on or make progress 00:42:38.180 |
on in a given day, and I'm arguing, if possible, just have one major initiative you're making 00:42:49.020 |
I'm working on my book and trying to make progress on a chapter from my book, and try 00:42:55.060 |
Do you have a session for, and you can think about in the background and maybe return to 00:42:58.140 |
it later in the day, have another deep work session on. 00:43:01.620 |
Outside of this one major thing, there'll be lots of other small tasks and obligations 00:43:12.540 |
The time blocking is going to help you make sense of where am I going to work on my major 00:43:17.620 |
How am I going to get other small things that need to get done in the most optimal way possible? 00:43:20.460 |
So most knowledge workers have a lot of things they have to do. 00:43:27.060 |
The major things you work on, in an ideal world, though, you would limit that to one 00:43:31.880 |
All right, Adan, thank you for that question. 00:43:33.380 |
That is this week's Slow Productivity Corner. 00:43:39.900 |
Case studies are where you, my listeners, send in examples of you using my advice in 00:43:43.020 |
your actual lives so we can see what it looks like in practice. 00:43:47.060 |
Today's case study is anonymous, but it's interesting. 00:43:54.220 |
I want to share how your podcast helped to remind me to build my career around my desired 00:44:00.700 |
When I first graduated from Juilliard and left New York, I moved in with my parents 00:44:06.680 |
in the Portland area to save money while I hit the orchestral audition circuit. 00:44:12.060 |
I felt desperate to land an orchestra job as fast as possible, but the contrast of leaving 00:44:15.800 |
New York for suburbia also made it incredibly apparent to me how much I wanted to get back 00:44:20.700 |
to living in a dense, walkable city with good public transportation. 00:44:26.840 |
In those early months of desperation to advance my career and move out of my parents' house, 00:44:30.660 |
I took auditions for big jobs in cities I would have hated to live in, like L.A., Cleveland, 00:44:36.860 |
After getting dangerously close to landing a couple of jobs in places I would have hated, 00:44:39.980 |
I'm now living the dream in San Francisco as a freelancer and no longer feel like my 00:44:43.420 |
entire life hinges on landing a big, high-status orchestra job. 00:44:48.780 |
Last year, I even had the opportunity and flexibility to accept a contract with an orchestra 00:44:53.340 |
in Auckland and lived in New Zealand for three months before returning to San Francisco. 00:44:57.740 |
I don't make as much money as if I had a full-time position with a major symphony, and in the 00:45:01.940 |
eyes of the status hierarchy, I'm just a freelancer, but that's worth the benefit of having autonomy 00:45:08.220 |
The weeks where I have holes in my calendar, I enjoy having an abundance of time to read 00:45:11.420 |
and write and go for long walks and volunteer in my neighborhood. 00:45:15.300 |
Since moving here, I've been in finals for auditions for a couple of different full-time 00:45:19.100 |
positions here in San Francisco, and there are more vacancies to be filled, so there 00:45:22.540 |
is plenty of opportunity for upward career mobility without having to move so long as 00:45:28.100 |
In practicing for auditions, I always get my best work done when applying the principles 00:45:33.900 |
Well, I love this case study because it has a core idea that's part of my deep-life philosophy. 00:45:42.260 |
So when trying to cultivate a deep life, an intentional life, a life lived on purpose, 00:45:46.340 |
a life that's remarkable to yourself and other people, when trying to cultivate a deep life, 00:45:52.140 |
a trap to avoid is the hope that the singular grand goal will change everything for the 00:45:58.020 |
Now, this is a very common belief, especially in the American context. 00:46:01.980 |
This idea that if I want my life to be deep, I need a sufficiently ambitious and unambiguously 00:46:09.340 |
impressive goal, and if I accomplish that goal, because that's a hard goal and it's 00:46:13.780 |
very intentional and hard to do, my life will be intentional, and I'll enjoy it, and it'll 00:46:19.100 |
The problem with the grand goal approach is, as we just talked about in a prior question, 00:46:24.140 |
is that there are multiple parts of your life that matter. 00:46:28.320 |
Singular grand goals tend to just focus on one part of your life, and in making one part 00:46:32.100 |
of your life better, they can have unexpected consequences on the other parts of your life. 00:46:38.040 |
So in pursuing, for example, the goal of landing a high status orchestra job, you might really 00:46:45.580 |
screw with, in this example, other parts of your life that are important, that have to 00:46:48.740 |
do with where you live and the pace of your life. 00:46:55.600 |
So what we see here is working backwards from a general broad understanding of all the aspects 00:47:03.220 |
So you're sort of, I call it your ideal lifestyle plan or ideal lifestyle narrative, and that 00:47:08.260 |
leads to a much more subtle and complicated and nuanced approach with many more options 00:47:13.420 |
for crafting a life that's going to be much more fulfilling. 00:47:16.580 |
So because the case study here, the author of this case study, recognized location really 00:47:24.820 |
He did not go or accept the high status job in a city in which location would be really 00:47:30.260 |
bad, but what he also did, because again, he's very plugged into, here's all the parts 00:47:35.100 |
It allows you to much more flexibly be looking for opportunities to, how can I service more 00:47:40.900 |
He cares about music, got this opportunity to go somewhere interesting, to play in an 00:47:45.500 |
orchestra, but not to go to a location he doesn't like. 00:47:47.720 |
And also to have the flexibility of a freelancer so that like this other slower pace of life 00:47:52.500 |
could still show himself and he could still have downtimes when he's reading, doing other 00:47:57.020 |
This is not something you sit about when you're in Juilliard and say, here's the obvious 00:48:01.020 |
I want to be a freelance orchestra player in New Zealand. 00:48:03.680 |
You don't think about it from scratch, but when you work backwards from a broad lifestyle 00:48:08.180 |
narrative, these are the type of subtle plans that come up that better play on all the different 00:48:14.020 |
So it's a great case study of deep life planning in action. 00:48:21.500 |
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All right, so one of the things I like to do in the final segment of the show is react 00:52:14.260 |
to interesting articles that I have seen around the internet. 00:52:24.720 |
For those who are watching instead of just listening, I am going to attempt with trepidation 00:52:33.580 |
The article is called "Countering Pushback to Limiting Social Media for Kids." 00:52:37.900 |
It's written by the Washington Post columnist, Lena Nguyen. 00:52:41.660 |
Now what I like about this article is that Lena is talking back or addressing five of 00:52:49.340 |
the most common complaints that people have about the renewed push that we should limit 00:52:57.780 |
So in other words, there's this growing push driven in large part by the popularization 00:53:02.100 |
of research by John Haidt, that we should be careful about giving unrestricted access 00:53:08.180 |
Don't just give a 13 year old a smartphone and say rock and roll, kids are kids, rock 00:53:11.940 |
The data I believe is very clear that this is dangerous. 00:53:14.060 |
Our best bet is to delay unrestricted access to the internet and social media in particular 00:53:18.820 |
until kids are older, probably high school, post puberty, the safest age would probably 00:53:29.300 |
I've heard a lot of this pushback over the years, but Lena I think in this article does 00:53:33.260 |
a good job of responding to the most common pieces of pushback. 00:53:37.500 |
I'm going to go through her responses briefly, right now, because I think she's right on. 00:53:43.580 |
All right, so I'm going to share this again on the screen. 00:53:47.580 |
Let's start with Okay, first common complaint about limiting social media kids. 00:53:55.980 |
Here's Lena, some claim that because social media can offer educational resources and 00:54:00.020 |
facilitate communication, LGBTQ plus and other youth who normally feel ostracized, are able 00:54:05.320 |
to use the platforms to find community more easily, thus limiting social media could hurt 00:54:11.560 |
I hear this complaint or concern, I don't say complaint, but concern about social media 00:54:22.900 |
This is ignoring the fact that without social media, young people seeking community have 00:54:26.660 |
other online resources such as forums and support groups. 00:54:30.860 |
She's exactly right about this and these other online resources I actually think are much 00:54:34.600 |
better than trying to be in an algorithmically driven attention economy echo chamber. 00:54:42.200 |
Is parents being worried that they need them to keep in touch with their kids? 00:54:49.780 |
Well, I understand the convenience of messaging your children in case pickup plans change. 00:54:53.620 |
Surely this does not outweigh the substantial downside of kids being distracted from learning. 00:54:58.660 |
There's ample proof that phones are distracting, dot, dot, dot. 00:55:03.180 |
Just like the old days, if there's a true emergency, parents can pass messages by calling 00:55:07.860 |
And for parents who must have a direct line to their kids, they can use dumb phones that 00:55:15.060 |
It seems like it's really throwing the baby out with the bathwater to have, you know, 00:55:21.180 |
In some scenario I've concocted, therefore they should have unrestricted access to social 00:55:28.740 |
Let's look at the third objection that she addresses. 00:55:30.540 |
I'll put this back on the screen again, just for those, for visual variety's sake. 00:55:36.120 |
The third objection, kids will find a way around the controls. 00:55:42.980 |
It's like saying teenagers will drink and smoke anyway, so why bother trying to stop 00:55:49.700 |
They will, so just don't give them a phone, don't put controls on it. 00:55:56.940 |
It's too simplistic to say limiting social media will improve kids' social health. 00:56:03.980 |
The mental health crisis among young people has multiple causes of which social media 00:56:08.580 |
No one is saying that restricting social media use will solve the crisis. 00:56:12.660 |
Then she says no one is saying that restricting social media use will solve this crisis because 00:56:20.220 |
I think, again, to say there's other things that are causing mental health. 00:56:26.580 |
Just getting rid of social media is not going to solve all these problems doesn't then follow, 00:56:30.960 |
so let's stop trying to do the social media piece. 00:56:33.980 |
That is a big piece of social media of mental health issues. 00:56:37.500 |
It's one we can control, so let's do something about it. 00:56:42.620 |
Perhaps this complaint takes a common form of complaint for a lot of issues, which is 00:56:50.660 |
Often there's this concern of if you focus too much, and a lot of different progressive 00:56:55.500 |
issues, but if you focus too much on a concrete solution that could make progress, people 00:56:59.980 |
will stop paying attention to these other things that are problems that we think are 00:57:03.620 |
Often things require more systemic changes, and so there's a hesitancy to get concrete. 00:57:09.340 |
There's never a good reason to avoid concrete things that can help. 00:57:12.380 |
All right, let's go to the final, I'll load it back up here, the final objection that 00:57:20.220 |
There isn't adequate data to prove social media worsens kids' health. 00:57:27.460 |
While it's true that not all studies have found a strong correlation between social 00:57:30.500 |
media and youth mental health issues, the data, in my view, is plenty strong enough. 00:57:36.020 |
I have spent a lot of time with John Haidt and Gene Twenge's annotated bibliography 00:57:40.620 |
I have watched over the years as the data gets more conclusive. 00:57:44.700 |
Research literatures are not about unanimity, they're about directions when they all begin 00:57:51.340 |
Different experimental designs and studies all point towards the same conclusion. 00:57:56.660 |
That's how you know the research literature is converging on something that's more likely 00:58:00.380 |
true, and that's what we're seeing in the harms of social media debate. 00:58:04.700 |
In fact, Lena, she has a good way of saying this. 00:58:06.860 |
The question isn't, are we 100% sure of cause and effect, but rather, what is the harm of 00:58:11.820 |
taking actions versus the harm of not doing so? 00:58:15.540 |
So unless you work for Apple or Meta, there's not a major harm to your kids not having these 00:58:21.580 |
The biggest harm is maybe the perceived social complexity. 00:58:26.800 |
But the harm of having these things is becoming increasingly well documented. 00:58:31.200 |
To ignore, it's interesting, to ignore the data on this, it reminds me a lot of climate 00:58:35.980 |
Well, you know, there's this other thing I saw that's saying the islands aren't shrinking. 00:58:41.860 |
There's this other thing that it's more complicated about the changes in the temperature, and 00:58:46.780 |
the climate change scientists have to say, "Look, the literature's this direction they 00:58:50.860 |
Not like every article saying the same thing. 00:58:51.860 |
We're getting a lot of that same, I think, kids and social media denialism happening 00:58:57.260 |
"Well, you know, what about this study over here and the potato study?" 00:58:59.580 |
And you kind of have to trust the experts here who are looking at the preponderance 00:59:04.020 |
of the evidence and seeing the research moving clearly, increasingly in this direction. 00:59:11.580 |
There's a link to it in the show notes, if you want to read it at the Washington Post. 00:59:15.300 |
Those are common objections, and they all are relatively easily parried. 00:59:18.500 |
All right, so that's all the time we have for today's episode. 00:59:29.860 |
But thanks for putting up with the solo episode. 00:59:32.180 |
We will see you or hear you next week, and until then, as always, stay deep. 00:59:36.580 |
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