From AAU to the NBA ft. Trae Young // Michael Porter Jr.
Chapters
0:04:15 Favorite Memories
5:18 Favorite Camp
14:36 Kevin Knox
00:00:00.000 | (upbeat hip hop music)
00:00:03.240 | - My guy Trey in the building,
00:00:10.400 | what's good with you, fam, bro?
00:00:11.840 | - My guy.
00:00:13.140 | - Sir.
00:00:13.980 | - What's good, guy?
00:00:14.800 | - Yes, sir.
00:00:15.640 | - All right, bro, so let's get it poppin'.
00:00:16.480 | So first, I wanna start off at high school.
00:00:18.880 | Do you remember how we met?
00:00:20.180 | - Yeah, for sure.
00:00:24.960 | Nike Elite, was it?
00:00:26.400 | - You know, at the top of Hunter Camp?
00:00:28.280 | - You remember, in St. Louis?
00:00:29.400 | - Yeah, I remember 'cause I remember
00:00:30.960 | seeing this light-skinned dude,
00:00:32.840 | and he was like, you was like what, like five?
00:00:35.940 | You was like five, what are you?
00:00:36.780 | - I was like five, six.
00:00:38.920 | - And he was just gettin' buckets, you know?
00:00:40.640 | - No, no, no, no, no, I was like five, 10.
00:00:43.080 | - But everybody was at that camp,
00:00:44.760 | and that was when I first met you,
00:00:47.040 | and then we, and then the time when we,
00:00:51.400 | the time I really remember was we was at that gym
00:00:53.880 | with Mo Can, you walked in the door,
00:00:57.280 | and Coach Perry was like, man, it's this kid coming,
00:00:59.720 | he's like the best point guard in the area,
00:01:02.000 | and I had no idea who it was, and you walked in the door,
00:01:04.880 | and I was like, man, this dude, I remember this dude,
00:01:07.040 | but I didn't remember you being that good from the camp,
00:01:09.760 | and we had a practice or whatever,
00:01:11.560 | and you was like, you was killin' like,
00:01:14.040 | same game you have now, you was doin' your thing,
00:01:16.320 | and then that's when we linked up.
00:01:18.400 | - No, for real, I remember that 'cause that was
00:01:20.960 | right after, 'cause that was my first time
00:01:22.800 | goin' to practice, goin' to Kansas City,
00:01:25.040 | I think that was the first time we actually linked
00:01:27.160 | after the game 100 was, was that, that practice was great.
00:01:32.160 | - Yeah, how did you even, what made you wanna play
00:01:34.360 | with Mo Can, though?
00:01:35.680 | - Reason why I came over to Mo Can,
00:01:38.400 | Coach P hit me up, Matt Souther,
00:01:42.320 | told me I was able to come play with you,
00:01:46.200 | I was playin' in Dallas, and our team wouldn't,
00:01:49.360 | wouldn't really like that. - No, I didn't know.
00:01:51.800 | - I was tryin' to play on the 17U level,
00:01:53.280 | and then I was tryin' to come over to Nike
00:01:55.480 | and, and play with Mo Can, so I,
00:01:59.600 | they gave me an opportunity to play with you, so,
00:02:01.480 | I was like, yeah. - Yeah, it was great.
00:02:03.720 | I mean, for the jump, we had like a crazy chemistry,
00:02:06.400 | like, from the jump, and that was our 16s,
00:02:09.200 | and we was playin' up 17s, I think.
00:02:11.120 | - Yeah, it made it easy 'cause we were both young,
00:02:14.360 | and we were out of town, and we,
00:02:16.400 | remember we had to stay over at Coach Dave's
00:02:17.880 | house all the time? - Yep, Coach Dave's.
00:02:19.760 | - So we had a lot of time, we was just in the basement,
00:02:22.360 | chillin', watchin' games. - So that's when we,
00:02:24.160 | yeah, that's when we first got real close.
00:02:25.800 | We was tryin' to sneak out the crib.
00:02:27.280 | - Yeah. (laughs)
00:02:28.760 | - Yeah, I remember that, so.
00:02:30.640 | And then, so that 16s year, we had that year,
00:02:34.120 | and we, we made PSJA, and we ended up
00:02:36.160 | losin' the pool play, right?
00:02:37.520 | - Yeah, we, I don't even think we won two games.
00:02:40.920 | - I think we won two out of three.
00:02:42.360 | - Yeah. - And then we was like,
00:02:43.400 | but we knew we had the potential to be like, cold.
00:02:45.640 | - Yeah, yeah. - And so,
00:02:46.480 | we knew we was gonna come back that next year,
00:02:48.560 | and then 17s, we came back, and we was, we was dominant.
00:02:53.560 | I think we lost, what, one game?
00:02:57.120 | Two games? - Yeah, two games all season.
00:02:58.960 | - Which one you think we should watch,
00:03:00.320 | this one or this one?
00:03:01.200 | - Nah, bro, the PSJA one, bro.
00:03:02.720 | - This one?
00:03:03.560 | I ain't seen it.
00:03:04.380 | We was so tough, bro.
00:03:08.480 | - Hey, first play of the game was good.
00:03:10.800 | - That was the first play of the game.
00:03:12.840 | - Our whole class was pretty much in the lead.
00:03:17.560 | - Yeah, we were in the lead.
00:03:20.240 | - Good, Tay.
00:03:21.240 | - Lay.
00:03:24.280 | - Good, Tay.
00:03:25.280 | I love you, man.
00:03:30.000 | - Yeah, we was getting too hype, yo.
00:03:32.920 | First, first half, I don't know, man.
00:03:36.000 | Hey, he was not missing, though, that's--
00:03:39.480 | - Jarrett, really?
00:03:41.840 | - That whole, that whole PSJA?
00:03:45.080 | - I don't know, bro.
00:03:46.240 | - I be telling people we was like the best
00:03:48.440 | AU program ever, like ever.
00:03:50.200 | - Yeah, I mean, we in the conversation, for sure.
00:03:54.920 | I think we, I can't argue with my friends all the time,
00:03:59.000 | like players, they always talk about the AU team.
00:04:03.240 | Like, I don't see a team that can match up with us.
00:04:05.880 | - Nah, 'cause it was like, we went to Peach Jam,
00:04:08.160 | and it wasn't like we was winning by two or 10 or whatever.
00:04:12.360 | We was winning by like 30.
00:04:13.920 | - Every game. - Every game.
00:04:15.680 | - So, what was your favorite memories, would you say,
00:04:17.520 | from that whole, from that whole, like AU side of thing?
00:04:22.000 | - I think, really, just what we were just talking about,
00:04:29.160 | like the time when we were going
00:04:32.480 | and having those three days on Saturdays,
00:04:35.520 | and like, throughout the day,
00:04:37.400 | we're always kicking it with each other.
00:04:38.960 | Like, me and you, with the team,
00:04:42.360 | like, we're either going to watch other games,
00:04:45.040 | or we're at the crib, or we're doing something.
00:04:48.200 | Like, we're always with each other.
00:04:50.400 | - We were always together, every weekend.
00:04:52.760 | - Every weekend.
00:04:53.600 | So, for us, out of state, like, we were always,
00:04:56.560 | me and you were always together,
00:04:57.640 | 'cause we didn't have nowhere else to go.
00:04:59.000 | Like, I mean, your parents were always busy,
00:05:01.360 | like your family, mine, same way.
00:05:03.280 | Like, they're doing their stuff,
00:05:05.840 | so we were always with each other.
00:05:07.120 | So, that's, I think, why we were so close.
00:05:09.640 | - We got close. - Craziest.
00:05:11.920 | - We went, remember, we was trying to make college work, too.
00:05:14.680 | - Yeah.
00:05:15.520 | - Trying to make the college thing work,
00:05:16.360 | but we could never get it happening.
00:05:17.520 | What was your favorite camp we did?
00:05:20.280 | Like, any of that.
00:05:24.120 | We did so much, we did Chile, T-U-S-A.
00:05:27.080 | - You think N-Day Top 100 was fun?
00:05:32.320 | - I thought it was, it was fun.
00:05:34.560 | It was like, it was informative,
00:05:35.880 | 'cause we'd hoop, and we'd have the class stuff.
00:05:38.400 | - Yeah.
00:05:39.240 | - And everybody was there, though.
00:05:40.280 | That's what I like about it.
00:05:41.120 | Every good player was there.
00:05:41.960 | - That's what I think about it, yeah.
00:05:43.400 | - But it was cool.
00:05:45.200 | You was killing.
00:05:46.040 | That's really like when you took a leap.
00:05:48.520 | That, I remember seeing that video,
00:05:49.800 | I think it was "A Baller's Life"
00:05:50.840 | that came out of you and Gary going back and forth.
00:05:53.240 | - Oh yeah, me and Gary went back, yeah.
00:05:54.680 | - Yeah, that was crazy.
00:05:55.520 | - No, that was cool, that was cool.
00:05:57.120 | We had a, yeah, U-S-A.
00:05:59.320 | U-S-A was, that was just a long, a long trip.
00:06:02.960 | - Bro, they kept trying to make you say, "Thank you."
00:06:05.400 | Remember?
00:06:06.240 | (laughing)
00:06:08.920 | - Look, you're not allowed to say thank you.
00:06:12.760 | (laughing)
00:06:15.000 | - Bro, I was good like, man.
00:06:19.320 | - Oh wait, that's my teammate now.
00:06:21.080 | - Who?
00:06:22.240 | Who?
00:06:23.080 | - Oh, yeah, oh yeah.
00:06:24.200 | - Oh yeah, does he play?
00:06:25.800 | - Yeah, he plays a little bit.
00:06:27.520 | - They were really tripping on saying, "Thank you."
00:06:29.440 | - No, that's, it was for the assist.
00:06:31.400 | - I know.
00:06:32.880 | - Hey.
00:06:33.720 | - Look, you didn't say it.
00:06:34.560 | Look, I know you didn't say it.
00:06:37.400 | (laughing)
00:06:38.920 | I knew it, I already knew it.
00:06:40.400 | (laughing)
00:06:41.960 | - U-S-A was crazy, but the food they gave us was so weak.
00:06:44.680 | Hey.
00:06:45.520 | - Look, no, you didn't say it.
00:06:48.120 | (laughing)
00:06:49.760 | You didn't say it.
00:06:51.360 | You didn't say it in fast enough.
00:06:53.120 | - Bro, that is crazy.
00:06:54.440 | - They was tripping on that, too.
00:06:56.440 | You had to say it like.
00:06:58.480 | - I mean, that was the thing.
00:06:59.480 | You was balling, you had MVP.
00:07:01.320 | - U-S-A?
00:07:02.160 | - You had MVP.
00:07:03.000 | - Yeah, nah, I remember.
00:07:03.840 | - I was back there, Matt Coleman.
00:07:05.480 | 'Cause we had, it was like, we had a camp,
00:07:09.640 | and then we went to Team Europe.
00:07:10.960 | No, we had Peach Jam, I think.
00:07:12.600 | And then we went to some camp.
00:07:13.960 | And then we did Chile.
00:07:15.560 | And then we went to another Nike camp.
00:07:17.160 | We was with each other for like a month.
00:07:18.840 | And people, we got so tired of each other.
00:07:22.880 | Me and this dude got so tired of each other.
00:07:25.200 | And I remember, we was in Chile.
00:07:27.360 | And Chile was so crazy.
00:07:28.720 | Is that how you pronounce it, Chile?
00:07:30.520 | - Chile, yeah.
00:07:31.880 | - We was up there, and we had been with each other
00:07:33.720 | for like a month.
00:07:34.560 | And then we was like rooming together the whole time.
00:07:37.640 | We was so tired of each other.
00:07:39.160 | And I think that's the only time
00:07:40.360 | we really got into like a real fight.
00:07:42.360 | We got into like an argument.
00:07:43.320 | You remember that?
00:07:44.160 | - Yeah, we were in LA though.
00:07:45.280 | We were at the Skills Academy.
00:07:46.760 | - That's when we got into a fight?
00:07:47.760 | - Yeah, that was the last place.
00:07:49.480 | - That was the last place.
00:07:50.320 | We was so tired of each other.
00:07:51.560 | - It was all, all we could do was FaceTime.
00:07:54.760 | He wanted me to turn off the lights.
00:07:56.840 | - So this is what happened.
00:07:57.800 | So we had been with each other for like a month.
00:07:59.880 | And I'm tired, I'm trying to go to sleep.
00:08:01.920 | This dude on FaceTime with his girl.
00:08:03.600 | I'm like, "Bro, turn the light off."
00:08:05.280 | But he had the light on.
00:08:06.120 | I'm like, "Bro, you can't FaceTime with the light off?"
00:08:08.240 | He's like, "Nah, bro, I'm with the light on."
00:08:09.560 | So I get up out of my bed, and I go, "Turn the light off."
00:08:12.680 | Soon as I get back from my bed,
00:08:14.000 | he turned the light back on.
00:08:14.840 | I'm like, "Bro."
00:08:16.160 | So I get back up, turn the light off.
00:08:18.080 | He turned it back on again.
00:08:19.280 | And then like literally we both just was so like
00:08:21.600 | irritated with each other, we started fighting.
00:08:23.120 | Like actually like fighting.
00:08:24.320 | - For real, for real.
00:08:25.800 | - I think, yeah, I got a picture somewhere, but.
00:08:29.360 | - I do remember that.
00:08:30.200 | That was.
00:08:31.880 | - Hey, you was just, it was a trip, bro.
00:08:33.720 | - No, that was fun, though.
00:08:34.880 | - But going like from high school,
00:08:36.480 | so you was ranked like, I think like in the 20 to 30 range.
00:08:41.240 | But like every player you played against
00:08:44.040 | in your position, you was killing.
00:08:46.280 | But they still had you ranked so like,
00:08:48.800 | so they didn't have you ranked like high enough.
00:08:50.960 | Why do you think that was?
00:08:52.080 | Like what were people tripping about with you?
00:08:54.160 | And what was the like criticism you got in high school?
00:08:57.800 | - I think it was just more like just my,
00:09:00.760 | just my, nobody really thought that my game
00:09:03.560 | would translate to the next level, I think.
00:09:05.640 | And for me, it was just about showing it.
00:09:08.360 | I think once I got to college and played on TV
00:09:13.880 | and played in front of all these people,
00:09:17.240 | like my game, you know this,
00:09:18.840 | and my game hasn't really changed since high school.
00:09:22.120 | So it's like, it's really just since once I got
00:09:26.280 | on a national stage and played in front of more people,
00:09:28.760 | more eyes, more people saw my game could translate.
00:09:31.920 | So that's, that's really what it was.
00:09:33.200 | And I think it was just people and you know,
00:09:36.040 | people, people can, people can boost it.
00:09:38.200 | Like you should have been number one player
00:09:39.920 | in high school for the longest.
00:09:42.040 | But it's like, everything is, it's all politics.
00:09:45.440 | Like it's all politics.
00:09:46.760 | - And they'll find something like, if they don't,
00:09:49.480 | and it's so crazy 'cause they'll, they'll judge these kids.
00:09:51.960 | But like, look at what you're doing right now.
00:09:53.560 | Like they wasn't looking what you was doing right now.
00:09:55.040 | Every matchup you had against another good point guard,
00:09:57.240 | you was killing them.
00:09:58.280 | So, but they was basing everything off of potential.
00:10:01.320 | But like, that's what I don't get about like some
00:10:03.240 | of these rankers or analysts or whatever.
00:10:05.960 | Like you're doing the same exact thing.
00:10:07.960 | Your game hasn't changed.
00:10:08.920 | I remember one of the things they said was like,
00:10:10.760 | they didn't think you was athletic enough
00:10:12.280 | or couldn't get your shot off at the next level.
00:10:14.400 | But like, athleticism is more than just having balance.
00:10:18.360 | Like you ain't got no balance,
00:10:19.320 | but you got like every other athleticism you have.
00:10:22.320 | Like you're quick,
00:10:23.160 | you're one of the fastest players in the league.
00:10:24.600 | Like, and you get your shot off whenever you want.
00:10:26.800 | Your body control is crazy.
00:10:28.360 | And that's like, they was missing that.
00:10:30.040 | But like, we always knew that you was like,
00:10:32.680 | and I used to always tell you,
00:10:33.880 | like you're the number one point guard.
00:10:35.600 | And then, 'cause we used to debate
00:10:37.480 | who was number one and number two.
00:10:38.640 | You remember that?
00:10:39.480 | - For real, for real.
00:10:40.960 | I was only number one in the class and you was number two.
00:10:43.640 | - Who used to win one-on-one?
00:10:45.760 | Don't cap.
00:10:46.600 | All right, if we not gonna cap.
00:10:50.080 | All right, you got me.
00:10:52.600 | But it's only 'cause of height difference, man.
00:10:55.160 | You get to your spots and you just.
00:10:57.080 | - I used to kill every one-on-one.
00:10:59.000 | - Man, we gonna run it back now.
00:11:00.600 | - But, so we gonna go,
00:11:02.400 | we gonna transition to now college.
00:11:04.120 | So you, so you did your thing in high school,
00:11:06.120 | all of high school,
00:11:07.920 | and then you go to college at Oklahoma.
00:11:10.240 | Why did you pick Oklahoma?
00:11:11.560 | - Just being able to be me.
00:11:16.920 | Like, for real, like just being able to go to a school.
00:11:19.480 | Like, we were talking about that,
00:11:21.160 | like, picking our school, like we wanted to go places
00:11:23.440 | where we could be ourselves and be, I mean, just us.
00:11:26.960 | And I had trust in Coach Kruger and the staff
00:11:30.360 | that they were telling me,
00:11:32.640 | everything that they told me was gonna come true.
00:11:34.480 | And I mean, it kind of did.
00:11:38.120 | I had my whole plan to be there two years, like.
00:11:41.320 | - Yeah.
00:11:42.160 | - Like.
00:11:43.000 | - So you didn't even think you was gonna do
00:11:44.120 | what you did that first year?
00:11:45.360 | - I mean, I had thought it, but like,
00:11:48.800 | for me, I didn't want to put the pressure on.
00:11:51.000 | - Yeah.
00:11:51.840 | - I didn't want myself to go in, like.
00:11:53.000 | Like, for you, it was different, you know what I'm saying?
00:11:55.200 | Like, you were gifted, bro.
00:11:57.720 | Like, you had everything, you had everything.
00:11:59.560 | Like, for me, I had to go, like,
00:12:01.000 | I was thinking, like, two years, maybe.
00:12:03.920 | And if it happened, it happened.
00:12:07.440 | It happened the right way.
00:12:09.640 | And so, it's a blessing, bro, but.
00:12:12.160 | - Nah, it was crazy.
00:12:13.480 | I used to always tell people, like, from knowing you,
00:12:16.440 | when you're put in a situation where you can do your thing,
00:12:18.640 | like, organization gives you the keys.
00:12:21.360 | Whether that's Mocan, whether that's Oklahoma,
00:12:23.840 | whether that's, you know, the Atlanta Hawks,
00:12:25.920 | you're gonna be dominant.
00:12:27.520 | But, like, when the team tries to put you in a box,
00:12:29.760 | that's when you can't be Trey Young,
00:12:30.880 | and then you'll probably just be an average player.
00:12:32.360 | 'Cause I remember, we was playing Team USA,
00:12:34.560 | and they had all these point guards ahead of you
00:12:37.080 | that they wanted the point guards just to distribute,
00:12:39.520 | not really look for their own shot,
00:12:40.880 | not shoot the deep threes or whatever.
00:12:43.760 | And you, like, you struggled in Team USA,
00:12:45.760 | and I used to, like, I just knew the whole time
00:12:48.440 | it was 'cause you weren't put in a situation
00:12:50.080 | where you could beat Trey.
00:12:51.040 | - Yeah.
00:12:51.880 | - But, like--
00:12:52.720 | - Yeah, nah, I don't know, it's like,
00:12:54.640 | we was in our room talking about it.
00:12:56.200 | Like, after games, like, I was hype, like, everything,
00:12:59.440 | and we won, but remember how we was talking?
00:13:02.320 | Like, we've been talking about this stuff since then, so.
00:13:05.840 | Nah, you right, like, if you put us in a box,
00:13:08.320 | like, it's hard for us to really, to flourish.
00:13:11.200 | - Right.
00:13:12.040 | - For our skills to show.
00:13:13.120 | - I'm glad we in situations now in the league
00:13:15.200 | where we can do our thing.
00:13:16.400 | You've been doing it, you know,
00:13:17.680 | I was just starting to kind of find my flow
00:13:19.320 | with Nicola and Jamal, but, like, you,
00:13:22.320 | from the moment you stepped in, you was balling.
00:13:24.760 | - Yeah, you've been out with injury,
00:13:26.520 | now you're getting back into it, you see it,
00:13:28.120 | like, as I've been watching you play, like,
00:13:31.200 | you're getting more, like, into it.
00:13:32.800 | - Starting to get it.
00:13:33.640 | - Yeah, you're starting to get into it,
00:13:34.880 | you can see the confidence, like, everybody has in you,
00:13:37.800 | like, they give you the rock, and it's,
00:13:39.640 | the coach has in you, like, that just, it makes,
00:13:42.120 | it brings the best out of you.
00:13:43.120 | - Nah, I do, like, the, like, coaches,
00:13:45.720 | man, like, the situation you're in plays such a key role
00:13:48.800 | into, like, who you can be as a player,
00:13:50.160 | and that's why I tell people, like,
00:13:51.680 | to talk about the league, like, my friends over there,
00:13:54.040 | but, like, there's so many cold players in the league
00:13:56.600 | that will never really be, like, who they could be
00:13:59.640 | just because of the situation, but, like,
00:14:01.160 | you go put 'em in, like, a run in the summertime,
00:14:04.120 | and they're gonna look amazing, you know what I'm saying?
00:14:06.200 | - Yeah.
00:14:07.040 | - And there's so many players like that,
00:14:08.560 | like, the one that comes to mind is Trey Van De Valk.
00:14:11.400 | Like, remember how cold he was, like--
00:14:13.360 | - Trey was nice.
00:14:14.200 | - Or, and then, like, he just doesn't,
00:14:15.920 | hasn't really found the situation,
00:14:17.000 | but there's so many players that's kind of like that,
00:14:19.640 | like, they just don't find the situation,
00:14:20.960 | so we're blessed, 'cause we're in good, good programs.
00:14:24.120 | - Yeah, that's tough.
00:14:25.560 | I was thinking Trey, who's another guy, like--
00:14:28.840 | - Billy, I think, Billy Preston.
00:14:30.720 | I mean, he was one that, like, was cold in high school.
00:14:33.600 | I don't know what he's doing now,
00:14:34.520 | but, like, I always thought he'd be in the league.
00:14:37.280 | And then Kevin Knox is another one, I think,
00:14:39.280 | who was real talented at high school.
00:14:41.640 | He's in the league now in New York,
00:14:42.880 | and, like, he hasn't really gotten the situation,
00:14:45.040 | the opportunity to be him, you know what I'm saying?
00:14:47.800 | - No.
00:14:48.640 | - But there's countless players in the league that's like that.
00:14:51.200 | - Yeah, I agree.
00:14:52.640 | - Yeah, for sure.
00:14:54.360 | Last thing about college, what's,
00:14:56.440 | so the situation you was in,
00:14:59.080 | what's one piece of advice you would give to a freshman
00:15:02.960 | going into college that received as much attention as you,
00:15:07.000 | but at the same time is trying to keep team chemistry?
00:15:11.960 | - Oh, that's a good question.
00:15:13.760 | I mean, for me, it was tough.
00:15:17.920 | Like, I had, like, 'cause I had a bunch of,
00:15:22.080 | I had a bunch of, like, older guys.
00:15:26.320 | Like, I had a, it wasn't a bunch of young guys.
00:15:28.040 | - The older team?
00:15:28.880 | - Yeah, it was more of an older team,
00:15:30.200 | the team that the year before didn't do well,
00:15:32.280 | they didn't make the tournament.
00:15:33.720 | And then this team was supposed to be here,
00:15:35.960 | and now you got an All-American coming in,
00:15:38.360 | and it's like, and he's getting all the national attention,
00:15:41.640 | and they're just right there.
00:15:43.840 | So, you know what I'm saying?
00:15:44.680 | They saw a team, it's like,
00:15:45.920 | the only person I really had that was really close to me
00:15:48.840 | on the team was a couple of guys that were freshmen,
00:15:52.480 | and then my roommate, Cam Augusti.
00:15:55.120 | And then, besides that, it was all older guys,
00:15:58.080 | and they kind of stuck together,
00:15:59.120 | and it was like, it was hard, it was hard.
00:16:01.160 | For me, it was just, it's a learning thing,
00:16:03.320 | a learning thing for me, just having to talk to guys,
00:16:07.000 | and just make sure I keep it team.
00:16:09.400 | - Step on toes, but still, at the same time,
00:16:12.000 | let them know, nah, you're the man, this is my joint.
00:16:16.160 | But y'all, I feel like that'd be so hard,
00:16:18.520 | that's why I asked the question,
00:16:19.440 | 'cause I feel like, especially in college,
00:16:22.120 | you get them older dudes, and the freshmen coming in,
00:16:24.600 | and he's by far the best player.
00:16:26.400 | How do you keep that case?
00:16:28.200 | - Yeah, you just gotta just be yourself.
00:16:32.880 | Like, don't ever let the national media,
00:16:37.040 | and all that get to your head, and just make you change,
00:16:41.640 | 'cause if you come in one way,
00:16:43.800 | and then all this stuff comes at you,
00:16:45.520 | and you're a different person, then they see that.
00:16:48.560 | But if you're the same person from beginning to end,
00:16:51.600 | they see that too, and I think that's something that,
00:16:54.120 | I mean, I didn't struggle with,
00:16:56.480 | but it was just, as far as changing myself,
00:16:59.400 | but it was just like a situation where,
00:17:02.920 | I mean, I think it was good,
00:17:04.960 | but I just had to learn, and learn that on my own.
00:17:07.240 | - Right, 'cause looking in, like y'all,
00:17:10.240 | look from the outside, y'all was good,
00:17:12.280 | but y'all, like, I just wondered that,
00:17:14.920 | like y'all were really good,
00:17:16.120 | but I didn't know if y'all could be better,
00:17:17.720 | if the chemistry was better,
00:17:18.880 | 'cause y'all were like what, like top five for a second,
00:17:20.840 | then y'all start losing.
00:17:21.760 | - Yeah, we got all the way up to number three in the country.
00:17:24.880 | - Then why y'all start losing?
00:17:26.400 | - We started seeing teams twice in the Big 12.
00:17:30.000 | - Oh, for real?
00:17:30.840 | - So the second time, teams--
00:17:32.600 | - They figured y'all out?
00:17:33.440 | - Yeah, they weren't double-teaming me,
00:17:35.240 | and doing all this stuff, it was, it was, I don't know.
00:17:40.000 | - But let's talk to the league then, bro.
00:17:42.040 | So you, so you in the league now,
00:17:45.920 | your first year you did really, really good,
00:17:47.880 | your second year you're an all-star,
00:17:49.880 | and then, so like now, from now on,
00:17:51.720 | people kind of view you as like,
00:17:53.560 | oh, he's supposed to be an all-star,
00:17:55.120 | from here on out, like,
00:17:56.360 | and that was your second year in the NBA,
00:17:58.960 | and people expect you to play at this all-star level,
00:18:00.840 | which I feel like you should've been an all-star this year,
00:18:03.160 | like, like, no question.
00:18:04.840 | But how do you, my question for you is,
00:18:06.680 | how do you deal with, like, the expectations now,
00:18:09.040 | going forward, and just now putting that pressure
00:18:11.520 | on yourself, but at the same time, like,
00:18:14.000 | you know what I'm saying?
00:18:14.840 | - Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, for me, it's,
00:18:17.120 | I, like, you just can't worry about it.
00:18:20.080 | Like, you just, for me, I've gotten to the point now
00:18:23.400 | where, like, I don't, I don't care about
00:18:26.760 | other people's expectations on me.
00:18:28.400 | Like, my expectations of myself are higher
00:18:31.480 | than anybody else's could be, so it's like,
00:18:34.440 | I mean, nothing they say is gonna make me feel
00:18:37.120 | some type of way when anybody else puts on me,
00:18:39.600 | like, I'm, I know what I, what I want,
00:18:43.160 | you know what I'm saying?
00:18:44.000 | Like, I know-- - And it's higher
00:18:44.840 | than anybody else could expect from you, anyways.
00:18:47.520 | - Yeah, yeah, so that's, that's how I'm just,
00:18:49.720 | that's how I go about it, that's how I think.
00:18:51.720 | - Yeah, I feel like, like, a lot of young players,
00:18:54.400 | especially, but I know, like, me and you used to,
00:18:56.120 | me and you used to struggle with this, too,
00:18:58.160 | 'cause we'd look up our name on Twitter,
00:18:59.600 | see people talking about, like, as young players,
00:19:02.800 | you tend to want to, like, you play a lot of times
00:19:05.720 | with the approval of other people,
00:19:06.760 | like, you want them to talk good about you,
00:19:08.880 | you want people to, you know,
00:19:10.240 | approve of how you're playing, whatever,
00:19:12.160 | and then, like, if you're not meeting that,
00:19:14.280 | it can really, like, weigh on you,
00:19:15.600 | but then as you get older, and you get to the NBA,
00:19:18.080 | you see there's so many games,
00:19:19.560 | there's so many highs and lows,
00:19:21.160 | then you kind of learn, like, okay,
00:19:23.040 | I'm not playing for the fans, I'm not playing for,
00:19:25.600 | for the approval of other people,
00:19:27.240 | I'm just playing 'cause I love the game,
00:19:29.520 | and because, like, I want to be the best I can be,
00:19:32.080 | and then that kind of lets you play free,
00:19:33.760 | and I know you, like, you be playing so free out there,
00:19:36.720 | so I know you kind of have a mindset of, like,
00:19:38.840 | you're not worried about what other people are saying.
00:19:41.240 | - Yeah, but it took me a while to get to this point,
00:19:44.240 | like, and I think it's tough,
00:19:45.080 | 'cause our generation is, like,
00:19:47.240 | is the first generation that's really going through this,
00:19:49.880 | 'cause, like, the older people, like, I mean--
00:19:53.040 | - They ain't got no social media.
00:19:54.160 | - They ain't got no social media,
00:19:55.400 | this is new to them, like, they're, like,
00:19:58.360 | like, a lot of the older guys in the league,
00:19:59.840 | like, they're, they didn't have to go from college,
00:20:02.720 | and you're on your Twitter all the, like, in high school,
00:20:05.560 | and, like, we've been doing this since high school,
00:20:07.760 | like, and so, like, to be able to do that
00:20:11.120 | through high school and college,
00:20:12.280 | and then know when you get to the NBA
00:20:14.920 | that all that doesn't matter,
00:20:16.840 | and, like, all that looking for approval,
00:20:19.760 | like you said, like, that stuff doesn't matter,
00:20:21.920 | like, it's hard to, like, shut that off,
00:20:23.480 | but once you, if you understand that as an early,
00:20:26.600 | like, at an early age, I think that can help you,
00:20:30.480 | I mean, like you said, the better you're gonna be.
00:20:32.480 | - Yeah, no facts, and I think, like,
00:20:35.240 | I be saying, like, humans in general,
00:20:37.360 | people view NBA players like we're not really human,
00:20:39.800 | like, we don't have emotions,
00:20:40.880 | we don't see certain stuff on social media,
00:20:43.160 | and I be saying, like, no human is supposed
00:20:46.040 | to experience that much praise,
00:20:47.680 | and no human is supposed to experience that much, like, hate,
00:20:50.040 | like, if you have a good game or a bad game,
00:20:51.880 | you know, like, the way that fans talk about you
00:20:54.280 | is just crazy, and social media obviously plays, like,
00:20:57.200 | the biggest part into it, 'cause they just,
00:20:59.280 | it's easy for them to just comment
00:21:00.920 | whatever they want on your picture,
00:21:02.360 | but, like, but like you said, like, no one,
00:21:05.520 | the generation before didn't have to deal with that,
00:21:07.200 | we received so much, like, praise,
00:21:09.880 | which I feel like can be a bad thing,
00:21:11.160 | 'cause it gets people's head too big,
00:21:12.880 | and they start changing it,
00:21:13.960 | and they start playing for that praise,
00:21:16.000 | but then also, like, the criticism that we be getting,
00:21:19.040 | like, if we don't meet people's expectations is crazy,
00:21:22.920 | you know what I'm saying?
00:21:23.760 | - Nah, nah, that's, that's crazy, bro, nah.
00:21:27.000 | - It's wild, bro.
00:21:29.800 | - I can go on there for days talking about, like.
00:21:32.440 | - Nah, say something about it then,
00:21:33.800 | like, how you be feeling, how you be feeling about that?
00:21:35.600 | - I mean, for me, like, I don't,
00:21:37.280 | like, I just, I don't talk about,
00:21:40.760 | I don't, for me, it took a while to really get away from,
00:21:45.760 | like, not caring about other people's approval,
00:21:51.240 | like, you know what I'm saying?
00:21:52.080 | Like, my, I don't, I don't know,
00:21:56.880 | like, I literally have a, excuse my language,
00:21:59.760 | not-give-a-fuck, like, motto, like, that's just,
00:22:04.760 | I just don't, like, I just, like,
00:22:06.640 | unless it's important to me, like,
00:22:08.000 | if you can't help me, or, like,
00:22:10.120 | you're not benefiting, like, helping me,
00:22:11.920 | or my family, or whatever, like,
00:22:14.280 | it's, I don't care about your opinion, like.
00:22:16.400 | - Yeah, like, yeah, who are you to be,
00:22:18.560 | all these people talking, stuff, like,
00:22:20.920 | you never even gonna meet 'em,
00:22:22.480 | and they don't even care about you,
00:22:23.920 | like, you know what I'm saying?
00:22:24.760 | And that thing, I realized, like, bro,
00:22:26.440 | you can be as good, you can be the best player in the NBA,
00:22:31.120 | and have everything, and then, like,
00:22:32.960 | if you have a bad game,
00:22:33.800 | they still gonna talk crazy about you.
00:22:35.120 | - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying?
00:22:36.080 | So, if you, if you feed into that, bro, like,
00:22:38.400 | your emotions are gonna be on such a rollercoaster,
00:22:41.040 | 'cause you can never live up to what people want,
00:22:44.400 | people want perfection, like, fans want perfection.
00:22:46.560 | - And you seen guys, you seen guys in the league go, like,
00:22:50.000 | leave the league, 'cause they just,
00:22:52.240 | they're so mentally, like.
00:22:53.920 | - Yeah, they don't know how to deal with the pressure.
00:22:55.760 | - The pressure is tough, and it's like,
00:22:57.400 | some of you, it's a real thing,
00:22:59.160 | like a real struggle people have.
00:23:00.400 | - It's a real struggle, and I just,
00:23:02.480 | I think, like, what really makes, like,
00:23:04.880 | the best the best, the more I'm thinking about it,
00:23:07.040 | is not, like, how people handle, like, the praise,
00:23:10.720 | but it's almost, like, how people can bounce back
00:23:12.760 | from the bad games, or the criticism,
00:23:14.480 | and they get right back on their, like, what they do.
00:23:17.400 | Like, you know, we've been talking,
00:23:19.400 | we've both been talking to Brett, you know,
00:23:21.440 | our mental strength guy, help us out with that stuff,
00:23:23.920 | but he was just telling me the other day,
00:23:24.960 | like, Tiger Woods, like, he's won, like,
00:23:29.120 | he's lost way more matches than he's won,
00:23:31.320 | but he's still considered the best ever,
00:23:33.080 | and it's got me thinking, like,
00:23:34.200 | what really, like, separates the greatest
00:23:36.320 | is really how they handle, like, losses,
00:23:38.480 | you know what I'm saying?
00:23:39.320 | - Yeah.
00:23:40.160 | - So I think, like, and for me, really,
00:23:42.360 | that's why I kind of get off social media,
00:23:44.880 | because, like, it's easier to stay locked in
00:23:48.760 | and not really care what people think
00:23:49.960 | when you're not getting all the comments,
00:23:51.400 | and not getting all the whatever.
00:23:53.120 | There's other reasons, too.
00:23:54.520 | You know, the female, but that's a big reason, so.
00:23:59.520 | Yeah, bro, like, I was gonna ask you, too,
00:24:04.240 | so especially this year, like, in general,
00:24:08.280 | like, from the outside looking in,
00:24:09.880 | it's been a lot of talk about the way you draw fouls.
00:24:13.040 | You know, Steve Nash said he wasn't playing basketball
00:24:15.160 | or whatever, but to me, it's like,
00:24:17.480 | you're utilizing the rules of the game.
00:24:19.240 | You're doing what they're giving you,
00:24:20.640 | and, like, in the past, when players have figured out
00:24:23.120 | the game and figured out how to, like,
00:24:24.920 | take advantage of it, then it can cause, like,
00:24:27.800 | people, them to change the rules or whatever,
00:24:29.680 | but that's not the player's fault.
00:24:30.640 | That's being smart and having a good IQ.
00:24:32.680 | So what do you think about, like,
00:24:34.040 | people criticizing you, like, especially this year?
00:24:36.760 | - Yeah, I mean, especially with the foul drawing,
00:24:39.320 | like, I'm just, it's kind of frustrating.
00:24:42.960 | I mean, Steve brought up, like,
00:24:44.840 | how smart I am at drawing fouls.
00:24:47.240 | Like, how good I am at drawing fouls.
00:24:49.440 | Like, the media took the "that's not basketball"
00:24:52.400 | and just blew it up.
00:24:53.480 | Like, I was kind of frustrated at first when I saw it,
00:24:56.120 | but then I saw the whole quote and I saw what he said,
00:24:58.920 | but, like, me drawing fouls, like, that's just--
00:25:03.800 | - That's smart.
00:25:04.760 | - It's just smart.
00:25:05.600 | - Like, I don't see why people would get mad at you,
00:25:07.840 | and why they, I see why people might get mad at the rules.
00:25:11.200 | Like, if you, like--
00:25:12.040 | - Don't blame me, like, blame the rules.
00:25:13.920 | - That's just being smart, like, you just,
00:25:16.160 | that's being smart, like, if you,
00:25:17.600 | if they want to change the rules,
00:25:19.360 | make it so, like, if you pump fake
00:25:21.280 | and then you jump into someone,
00:25:22.920 | that's not a foul, or it's an offensive foul,
00:25:24.880 | but don't get mad at someone, like, utilizing the rules.
00:25:27.280 | - Yeah, yeah, I'm just, that's the thing.
00:25:28.920 | Like, I'm not doing anything that the rules
00:25:31.480 | aren't saying I can't do.
00:25:32.800 | You know what I'm saying?
00:25:33.640 | - Right, exactly.
00:25:34.480 | - I'm just, like, if a dude, and the thing is,
00:25:36.880 | is, like, people already hate that
00:25:40.040 | a smaller guy like me is, is, like,
00:25:43.880 | doing what I'm doing, and so, like,
00:25:45.240 | they're gonna try to be physical,
00:25:46.560 | and try to be, like, the thing that,
00:25:48.720 | I know what, like, the game plan against me is,
00:25:51.040 | be physical, be rough 'em up, like--
00:25:53.080 | - So you learn how to use--
00:25:54.280 | - So I'm just learning how to,
00:25:55.920 | when they go, "Okay, you wanna bump me?
00:25:57.600 | "All right, let's just, let me go off the screen.
00:25:59.640 | "I know you gonna bump me, so I'm just gonna stop
00:26:01.720 | "and just let you keep running," right?
00:26:03.480 | You know what I'm saying?
00:26:04.320 | Like, there's little things that I just,
00:26:06.400 | I'm gonna, like, especially when my starting stops,
00:26:08.680 | like, like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go off the screen,
00:26:12.360 | I'll go full speed, and the natural things,
00:26:16.440 | if I stop, your momentum is still going.
00:26:18.880 | Like, you still--
00:26:20.120 | - You gonna hit your--
00:26:20.960 | - You gonna hit me regardless.
00:26:21.800 | - It's gonna be a foul, and that's,
00:26:22.880 | that is a foul, like, that's, that's smart.
00:26:25.400 | - Yeah.
00:26:26.240 | - Now, that had me tripping, too.
00:26:27.080 | Like, how people gonna get mad at you
00:26:29.160 | for, for being a smart player?
00:26:30.920 | - It's, it's, it is what it is nowadays.
00:26:33.480 | That's what I'm talking about when it comes to social media.
00:26:35.440 | It's like, like, now, it's like,
00:26:38.120 | I don't, I don't like that.
00:26:39.680 | Like, I don't care about that no more.
00:26:40.520 | - Yeah, you don't care about none of that.
00:26:41.680 | - Like, I don't care about that no more.
00:26:43.080 | Like, maybe back a couple years ago,
00:26:44.760 | like, when I'm in college, and rookie year,
00:26:46.800 | like, that stuff fazed me, but it don't anymore.
00:26:50.360 | - So, criticism, like, you would say you don't care,
00:26:52.240 | or did, like, some people could use it to make 'em better,
00:26:55.880 | or some people use it, and then they follow it,
00:26:57.400 | and they don't know what to do with criticism.
00:26:59.200 | Do you, you just don't care about it at all,
00:27:00.720 | or do you feel like it make you better?
00:27:01.880 | - I, I think it's, I think you pick and choose.
00:27:04.800 | I think you, you, you hear every--
00:27:06.880 | - You start the criticism, you hear it?
00:27:08.200 | - You hear everything, you know what I'm saying?
00:27:09.440 | Like, I hear everything, you know what I'm saying?
00:27:11.360 | I'm gonna, I'm gonna pick and choose what I let,
00:27:13.760 | I mean, let inside, and let it affect me,
00:27:17.080 | and what I don't, you know what I'm saying, so.
00:27:19.760 | - That's, I mean, bro, that's what separates you,
00:27:21.320 | 'cause I'm, like, a lot of players can't do that,
00:27:23.360 | especially with the attention, and, you know,
00:27:25.360 | the criticism, and, like, the love,
00:27:27.280 | and the hate that you receive.
00:27:28.880 | Like, a lot of players can't do that.
00:27:30.760 | How would you say the NBA is different,
00:27:34.420 | on the court, and off the court,
00:27:35.920 | than, like, college or high school?
00:27:37.520 | - Shh.
00:27:38.360 | I mean...
00:27:40.360 | - On the, we'll start with on the court.
00:27:42.880 | Like, how, how is the game different?
00:27:44.960 | - On the court, I mean, it's just the spacing.
00:27:47.560 | - Yeah. - Like, the spacing.
00:27:48.440 | Like, I look at college games now, and, like--
00:27:50.760 | - It's hard to watch.
00:27:51.600 | - It's hard to watch, just 'cause, like,
00:27:52.800 | the defensive three safeties, like,
00:27:54.760 | the fact that somebody can sit in the lane,
00:27:56.640 | and you can't-- - Yeah.
00:27:58.040 | - You can't drive, and all that stuff, that's,
00:28:00.480 | it's hard to watch, and I think that's
00:28:02.400 | the most frustrating thing about the college game,
00:28:04.040 | and the difference from that in the NBA is the spacing,
00:28:06.960 | and the fact that everybody can hoop, like--
00:28:11.360 | - In the league?
00:28:12.200 | - Everybody, yeah. - Like, there's no weak link,
00:28:13.440 | but if you leave a player open,
00:28:14.800 | he probably gonna make a shot,
00:28:15.800 | even if he's the 12th man on the bench.
00:28:18.360 | - Yeah. - He's still called.
00:28:19.520 | - Still good, so, I think that's the difference.
00:28:21.960 | And then, off the court, it's like,
00:28:24.240 | I don't know, it's like,
00:28:25.800 | you don't have to worry about anything.
00:28:27.400 | - You got the bread, you got the money,
00:28:28.800 | you can do what you want.
00:28:30.120 | - Yeah, it's more about treating this like,
00:28:33.400 | it's basically, you get the option of treating basketball
00:28:38.400 | how you want it, you know what I'm saying?
00:28:40.320 | It's like, you have everything,
00:28:42.960 | so you have this time after basketball,
00:28:46.520 | like, you get to pick, you wanna--
00:28:48.920 | - You get to pick what, yeah,
00:28:49.760 | you get to pick what you wanna do.
00:28:50.800 | - You wanna, you wanna, how good you wanna be--
00:28:53.880 | - You wanna lock in, and use your money,
00:28:56.400 | like, to buy a chef, to help your body, or whatever,
00:28:59.440 | or do you wanna use your money to fly five girls out
00:29:02.000 | to the crib, or go out and, you know?
00:29:04.760 | - Yeah, spending all the money in bottles and stuff,
00:29:06.600 | and do all that, or you can do,
00:29:07.960 | or you can spend that money on, like you said, a chef,
00:29:09.960 | like, so it's, that's really the difference.
00:29:13.880 | - It's like, the difference almost then is like,
00:29:16.240 | whatever you dreamed that you could do
00:29:17.640 | in high school or college, now you can actually do.
00:29:20.800 | - Yeah. - That's why a lot of people
00:29:21.640 | get in the league, then they fall off,
00:29:23.040 | 'cause they have the world in their hands,
00:29:25.840 | and they don't stay locked.
00:29:27.000 | Like, their whole goal, I think one of the biggest,
00:29:30.360 | like, differences between players
00:29:32.600 | that really, like, become really good,
00:29:34.680 | and players that just get to the league
00:29:35.920 | and kind of fizzle out, is like, what was your goal?
00:29:38.280 | Like, was your goal just to make the NBA,
00:29:39.920 | and then you just wanted to live the lifestyle,
00:29:41.800 | or was your goal to be, like, one of the best players,
00:29:44.320 | and, like, really, like, you really love basketball?
00:29:47.000 | You know what I mean? - Yeah, yeah.
00:29:48.280 | It's definitely a difference of mindsets, whatever,
00:29:52.200 | of guys, you can tell, like, as you start playing,
00:29:55.800 | or what guys really focus on, too, yeah.
00:29:58.760 | - What do you think is the next step for you,
00:30:00.280 | and your game, to become, like,
00:30:01.760 | the player you ultimately could become?
00:30:04.240 | - Um, I think, for me, I think, for me,
00:30:07.840 | it's all just about winning, you know what I'm saying?
00:30:10.160 | Like, I mean, I'm always gonna be,
00:30:13.240 | I mean, I've done a lot of things a couple years already,
00:30:17.280 | but, I mean, all the individual stuff is gonna come,
00:30:20.640 | and, like, I think I'm always,
00:30:23.960 | one thing I've always took from Coach P
00:30:25.480 | is winning takes care of everything.
00:30:28.160 | - Back, and if you win, everybody gonna eat.
00:30:31.560 | - You know what I'm saying?
00:30:32.400 | So, like, winning, I know, for me,
00:30:34.800 | like, all the individual stuff, like, all that,
00:30:37.360 | all that stuff's gonna come, like,
00:30:39.760 | it's, for me, like, to be looked at,
00:30:41.840 | like, looked at different.
00:30:43.280 | - As a winner.
00:30:44.200 | - I wanna be looked at as a winner, so that's why.
00:30:45.560 | - Like, CP3, like, now, at this point in his career,
00:30:48.160 | everywhere he go, like, his reputation now
00:30:50.680 | is he's just a winner.
00:30:51.800 | - Yeah.
00:30:52.640 | - He can go to any organization.
00:30:54.600 | - Just stick around the league for years doing that.
00:30:56.400 | - Turn it around, yeah.
00:30:58.080 | - So, I feel that.
00:30:59.160 | What do you, so, how are you gonna spend your off-seasons?
00:31:02.760 | Or what do you like to do, outside of hoop?
00:31:04.920 | - I like being, I like being with my close people,
00:31:11.160 | friends, family, I mean, vacation, I mean, I play.
00:31:16.200 | Blackjacks, I don't know.
00:31:19.320 | - I feel that.
00:31:20.160 | - We'll be in Vegas.
00:31:21.640 | - We definitely gonna be in Vegas on the roulette, for sure.
00:31:24.800 | - Oh, yeah, okay.
00:31:25.640 | - Or, where did we go, Bahamas?
00:31:27.960 | - Yeah, Bahamas.
00:31:28.800 | - We was on the roulette, losing crazy, bro.
00:31:31.240 | (laughing)
00:31:32.720 | We didn't even go to the beach for real, bro.
00:31:35.440 | We was in the casino the whole time.
00:31:38.480 | - Yes, fam.
00:31:39.640 | All right, this is my last question for you.
00:31:41.720 | What would you say is your,
00:31:43.600 | what do you view as your purpose?
00:31:45.240 | Like, what's your purpose?
00:31:46.720 | - Oh, my purpose is, my purpose is just making sure,
00:31:56.360 | making sure my family is good.
00:31:58.960 | And then, also inspiring the next generation,
00:32:04.920 | and making sure the game is better than it's left.
00:32:09.040 | I mean, for me, I get frustrated sometimes
00:32:11.840 | at the older players, not understanding that the game,
00:32:16.840 | it's okay if the game is better today.
00:32:19.280 | You know what I'm saying?
00:32:20.120 | - Maybe, yeah.
00:32:20.960 | - Like, it's because of y'all.
00:32:22.680 | Like, the game, y'all made the game better,
00:32:25.920 | and, or whatever.
00:32:27.560 | And so, now it's LeBron came in from Jordan,
00:32:30.520 | then Steph came in and changed the game.
00:32:32.480 | Like, the game gets better over time.
00:32:34.080 | So, for me, I just wanna be one of those guys,
00:32:36.760 | hopefully, that makes the game a little bit better,
00:32:39.640 | and inspire others.
00:32:41.160 | - Inspire others.
00:32:42.760 | That's dope, bro.
00:32:43.680 | Well, I appreciate you coming on this joint.
00:32:45.600 | This is dope, fam.
00:32:46.760 | My guy.
00:32:48.000 | - What's the show called again?
00:32:49.400 | - Curious Mike.
00:32:50.880 | - Curious Mike.
00:32:51.960 | - Shout out to Lemon Perfect, too, hold it up.
00:32:54.280 | - Shout out to Lemon Perfect.
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00:32:57.040 | - Body armor, too, though.
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