back to indexThoughts on Joe Rogan's New Texas Studio | Lex Fridman
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0:0 Intro
0:50 The New Studio
1:38 One Big TV
2:25 Jamie Varner
3:44 Outro
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A couple of days ago, I got a chance to do the Joe Rogan experience for the fifth time, 00:00:07.080 |
I also got a chance to interview him afterwards for the podcast that I host and ask him all 00:00:13.000 |
the usual philosophical, over-romanticized Russian questions that I usually do on the 00:00:20.240 |
A bunch of people messaged me asking, "So how's the new studio?" 00:00:24.200 |
So instead of responding to everybody individually, I thought I'd make this video to give my thoughts 00:00:33.840 |
There's a few quick points I want to make, but overall, TL;DR is I love it. 00:00:41.720 |
So first let me say from the perspective of a guest and what the studio actually looks 00:00:46.160 |
like in real life, I think it looks great in real life. 00:00:49.960 |
And I believe it's an improvement over the previous studio in several ways. 00:00:53.760 |
So one, the previous studio actually has a lot of extra space that feels useless. 00:01:00.600 |
And there's something about removing that space that makes the studio feel more intimate. 00:01:04.800 |
I definitely felt like I was pulled into the conversation more. 00:01:07.680 |
Like if we take somebody like Larry King from CNN, check him out, look into it, is he has 00:01:18.280 |
I think this new studio actually extracts a really nice balance. 00:01:23.760 |
And that's something I talked to Joe with is how do you create an atmosphere where you 00:01:28.780 |
just forget that the rest of the world exists and you lose yourself in the conversation 00:01:33.160 |
where you're really focused in on listening and thinking about what the other person is 00:01:39.240 |
Another small thing that I think is actually really cool from a guest perspective is there's 00:01:48.100 |
So when you're looking at something in the previous studio, the one chimp was looking 00:01:53.880 |
at one TV and the other chimp was looking at the other TV. 00:01:56.920 |
And if you know anything about chimps or dogs or humans, there's a powerful signaling thing 00:02:01.940 |
with our eyes when we're both looking at the same thing. 00:02:04.440 |
There's like a more of a bond to it when we're looking at the same thing, same object or 00:02:11.460 |
So there is just nicer experience to be able to look at the same thing together and then 00:02:15.720 |
look back and also from a camera perspective, you can see what everyone is looking at, whether 00:02:22.160 |
it's two people or three people or four people. 00:02:26.440 |
Now from the perspective of what the video actually looks like, that goes into lighting, 00:02:31.360 |
camera positions, also the texture of the background. 00:02:34.320 |
So when the camera is doing the autofocusing or adjusting the lights, it does a good job, 00:02:39.920 |
Now to comment on that part, I want to say how amazing Jamie is. 00:02:44.200 |
For people who don't know, Jamie Varner is the, I guess, producer of the Joe Rogan Experience, 00:02:51.760 |
He's just the creative mind of his own, a photographer, just a creator of all kinds. 00:02:57.840 |
Now me again as a podcaster, I do many of the things that Jamie does, but I do it much 00:03:03.080 |
So I get to really appreciate the quality of his work. 00:03:06.720 |
So much of the setup, the wires, the configuration of the audio and the video and the management 00:03:11.080 |
of that, the switching of the cameras, the ability to Google, all of that comes together 00:03:21.360 |
And so this new studio from a video and audio engineering perspective is very much a creation 00:03:28.200 |
And I'm telling you now, he's done a masterful job and is quickly improving. 00:03:33.100 |
So just like he did with a previous studio to be constantly quickly improving until it 00:03:37.480 |
got to that level there everybody got used to. 00:03:41.480 |
I guarantee you'll be at a stellar level very quickly. 00:03:44.240 |
The previous times on the show, I knew how good he was, but this time I actually got 00:03:48.080 |
a chance to chat with him offline about some of the details of all the stuff he's doing. 00:03:53.080 |
And it just took my respect for him to another level. 00:03:56.760 |
And hopefully I'll convince him, he kind of said yes, to come on the podcast so we can 00:04:02.960 |
talk about some of the genius behind young Jamie. 00:04:07.280 |
And also I want to say that to me as a podcaster and an aspiring young Jamie myself, it was 00:04:16.320 |
really nice to see how humble and self-critical he is, given all the success of the show, 00:04:25.400 |
given everything that's been done, given so few screw ups, so few imperfections, given 00:04:29.920 |
the level at which he's able to with one hand be a solo producer of an entire video podcast 00:04:36.840 |
where he's switching the cameras, and with another hand be able to Google at a moment's 00:04:42.720 |
Given all that, he's extremely self-critical, extremely humble. 00:04:45.920 |
That's just inspiring to me because it echoes to the way I see the world as well. 00:04:51.860 |
So it gives me hope that if I continue seeing the world that way, I'll be able to eventually 00:04:56.780 |
figure out how to do this podcasting and engineering thing the right way. 00:05:07.080 |
And I think just like the Cybertruck, which will likely be manufactured in the same city 00:05:12.360 |
of Austin, Texas, I think people will eventually see it not as ugly as they did at first, but 00:05:20.360 |
And also, as I mentioned to him on the show, Spotify is better than YouTube in terms of 00:05:26.160 |
I hope that next time I take a ride in that spaceship, I'd love to do a cover of Voodoo 00:05:33.080 |
All right, check out the conversation with Joe. 00:05:36.960 |
Hopefully I didn't say anything ridiculous, but I probably did.