back to indexDoes My Soul Sleep After Death?
Chapters
0:0 Intro
0:40 Why Sleep
2:40 Time Between Death and Resurrection
5:45 Jesus and Paul
7:15 The Rich Man and Lazarus
8:50 Conclusion
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Gabriel, a listener from the Philippines, asks a very common question and a much debated 00:00:11.800 |
Pastor John, when we die, does our consciousness continue somewhere or do we just sleep awaiting 00:00:20.280 |
And why is sleep so often used to describe death, even by Jesus? 00:00:24.440 |
And where in the Bible can I be more confident of what happens to me or to someone I love 00:00:29.980 |
Should I imagine them sleeping, awaiting Christ's return? 00:00:33.560 |
Or are they already in heaven or even in hell? 00:00:43.020 |
Why is sleep, the word sleep or the image of sleep, used to describe death, even by 00:00:50.720 |
And number two, what is the experience of people between death and bodily resurrection? 00:00:59.280 |
So maybe we should start by not taking for granted the biblical teaching that God's purpose 00:01:07.440 |
is not just to have someday lots of spirits in heaven, but bodies on the new earth. 00:01:16.480 |
The resurrection of the body was a scandal to many Greeks who loved the idea of the immortality 00:01:23.740 |
of the soul, but disliked the idea of the resurrection of this body. 00:01:34.780 |
The body will be raised from the dead, and the bodily resurrection of Jesus in a form 00:01:41.140 |
that could be recognized and that could be touched and that could eat fish was the prototype 00:01:50.580 |
So Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15 20, Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits 00:02:01.620 |
And when people scoff in this chapter and say, "What kind of body do they come with?" 00:02:06.780 |
He answers in verse 42, "So is it with the resurrection of the dead. 00:02:30.840 |
So the resurrection of the body, absolutely essential to Christian doctrine. 00:02:35.900 |
Now the question is, what about the time between death and the resurrection of the body? 00:02:49.580 |
And we were talking earlier, Tony, as we began this, that this is really fresh for me because 00:02:55.580 |
at eight o'clock this morning, a very good friend of mine went into this state. 00:03:04.980 |
I mean, this is right now, it is three hours and 16 minutes. 00:03:12.500 |
He is three hours and 16 minutes into what we're talking about right now. 00:03:31.340 |
Since we believe that Jesus died, this is 1 Thessalonians 4, since we believe that Jesus 00:03:36.020 |
died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen 00:03:44.100 |
That's a reference to Christians who have died. 00:03:49.380 |
Or 1 Corinthians 15, 17, "If Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile, you're 00:03:54.540 |
still in your sins, then those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished." 00:04:01.860 |
So another reference to falling asleep as a picture of dying. 00:04:08.020 |
And then there's Jesus, where he raised the little girl. 00:04:10.660 |
We named our daughter after this experience where he says, "Talathakum," and he raises 00:04:17.540 |
And we know that she's dead because in Mark, I think, 535, they say, "Your daughter has 00:04:27.260 |
And when Jesus arrives to deal with this, he says, "Why are you making such a commotion 00:04:35.380 |
Well, she was dead, and he calls it sleeping. 00:04:41.500 |
My answer is that this is the way the body looks and acts. 00:04:49.700 |
It is simply a description of death by a softer picture of what it actually looks like. 00:04:58.820 |
If you've ever looked at a person who's just died, have they died or are they just sleeping? 00:05:05.980 |
Because they look like they're just there, like they've always looked and they're just 00:05:13.060 |
So I think it's a picture, it's a pictorial description in a softer way of the actual 00:05:25.220 |
Why do I jump to that idea of meaning instead of just saying, "Well, no, no, they are not 00:05:36.940 |
They really are undergoing something like soul sleep. 00:05:40.820 |
They will have no consciousness until the resurrection." 00:05:45.420 |
And the reason I don't is because Jesus and Paul teach otherwise. 00:05:50.620 |
So for example, the two key passages in Paul are Philippians 121, "To me to live is Christ 00:06:00.240 |
If I am to live in the flesh, that means fruitful labor for me, yet which I shall choose I cannot 00:06:08.000 |
My desire is to depart and be with Christ, for that is far better." 00:06:19.120 |
So when Paul contemplates his own dying, he calls it gain, not because he's going to go 00:06:24.900 |
unconscious and have zero experience for another thousand years, but because he goes into the 00:06:32.180 |
presence of Christ, with Christ, in a deeper, more intimate way, and it is, he says, "vastly 00:06:41.560 |
And then he says the same thing in 2 Corinthians 5, 6, "We're always of good courage. 00:06:48.180 |
We know that while we are at home in the body, we are away from the Lord, for we walk by 00:06:55.640 |
Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with 00:07:05.680 |
So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him." 00:07:11.840 |
So dying in the body means going to be at home with the Lord. 00:07:21.800 |
He tells this story about the rich man and Lazarus, and he doesn't say that it's a parable. 00:07:29.120 |
Now I don't know for sure, frankly, whether it was a parable or not, but he doesn't say 00:07:35.540 |
He just describes it like it really happened, and if it did happen or if it is a parable, 00:07:41.580 |
it seems to be making the point that after death, there's not oblivion or sleep, unconsciousness. 00:07:56.800 |
"There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously 00:08:03.820 |
And at his gate was laid a poor man, Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed 00:08:10.860 |
Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. 00:08:13.460 |
The poor man died and was carried by angels to Abraham's side. 00:08:24.540 |
And in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus 00:08:35.180 |
So the picture Jesus paints, parable or something that really happened, is one of a conscious 00:08:43.820 |
life in torment or in happiness beyond death. 00:08:49.300 |
So my conclusion is that Christians have a double encouragement for those who are dying 00:09:00.320 |
For the believer who trusts in Jesus Christ, Christ's blood and righteousness have removed 00:09:10.740 |
the condemnation for every believer and secured for us both final resurrection of the body 00:09:19.880 |
in a new heaven and a new earth and now, after death, an intimate, sweet experience of being 00:09:29.460 |
in Christ's presence between death and resurrection. 00:09:41.040 |
We'll be safe in his presence at the moment of death, and we will be supremely happy in 00:09:47.080 |
a new and healthy body forever and ever in the new heavens and the new earth. 00:09:54.480 |
Thank you, Pastor John, and thank you for sharing these thoughts in the midst of your 00:10:00.080 |
Well, we're going to end the week by talking about a subject that rarely, if ever, gets 00:10:04.760 |
addressed, and it's the topic of self-hatred. 00:10:08.800 |
What hope does the gospel offer those who struggle with self-condemnation and self-hatred 00:10:17.360 |
I've asked our friend and respected Bible counselor, David Powlison, to join us to explain, 00:10:23.120 |
and he has agreed to appear with us tomorrow. 00:10:25.320 |
I'm your host, Tony Reinke, and I'll see you then.