back to indexEp.18 - OSU Football Players Leading Spiritual Revival On Campus

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0:36 Intro
1:15 How he ended up at OSU
3:16 How we got involved with OSU football players revival night
11:7 What stood out for Will
12:35 Fallout from the event
17:15 What would Will Wu think about his journey
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A bunch of the seniors on the OSU football team 00:00:01.760 |
decided to forego going to the NFL for a year 00:00:04.440 |
because they felt like God wanted to do something more. 00:00:06.920 |
But I think the best part was that all these players, 00:00:26.200 |
Welcome to the official, unofficial Acts 2 network podcast. 00:00:31.560 |
- And today we have Will joining us on the show. 00:00:34.880 |
- Yeah, Will, why don't you introduce yourself a little bit. 00:00:37.080 |
Yeah, your peer class, where you're serving now, 00:00:43.040 |
I'm class of 2009 from Los Angeles originally. 00:01:03.800 |
- Yep, Columbus, Ohio, the Ohio State University. 00:01:09.000 |
- And today's episode is going to be about some cool things 00:01:13.160 |
But before we get there, maybe you could just take us through, 00:01:15.760 |
like how did you end up at Columbus, Ohio serving there. 00:01:20.280 |
- Yeah, well, Chris and I, we were serving at Pittsburgh. 00:01:33.600 |
And then we got to serve there for four years. 00:01:35.840 |
Along the way, we got a chance to do a vision trip out there at one point. 00:01:39.880 |
And then in 2021, you know, there was talk about more church planting. 00:01:47.440 |
And we kind of knew that either our couple or Angel and Judy's couple 00:01:54.960 |
And then we just got asked, "Hey, what about Ohio State?" 00:02:06.120 |
I mean, our team was assembled, I think, in May, right before we left. 00:02:10.920 |
I mean, we were asked a little bit earlier, but the team was assembled later 00:02:13.920 |
and kind of got some people from around the network who volunteered. 00:02:17.400 |
And then we had the privilege to move out there. 00:02:22.280 |
- So before that, you were in Berkeley undergrad, and then, yeah. 00:02:31.280 |
- Will was a senior when I was a freshman, very first student archers that I met. 00:02:35.840 |
And then after I graduated, Will was my leader for a year before you went to Taiwan. 00:02:41.520 |
- Yeah, so you've been to a lot of different places. 00:02:44.760 |
And then when we, I remember when you were my leader, 00:02:48.320 |
there was a car ride we had where we both talked about like, 00:02:53.240 |
You know, and both of us were talking about going full-time in ministry for our church. 00:02:57.120 |
And then when I went full-time, we overlapped for about like three, four months before you 00:03:04.640 |
- We had a neat moment sharing the office going, "Wow, that car ride has fled." 00:03:09.200 |
- So we were the two young guys at HP for a little bit. 00:03:17.480 |
Let's jump right to it because this is a really neat story. 00:03:19.640 |
For those of you who don't know, it's like four days ago, or at least at the time of this recording, 00:03:24.480 |
NPR did a segment, and this article is called, "The Ohio State," they forgot that part. 00:03:33.760 |
- Football players are leading a religious revival on campus, and it's about these Christian 00:03:39.240 |
football players, not just any football players, but some of the like really well-known... 00:03:45.280 |
They held like a religious revival event, and maybe what people don't know is that we had 00:03:52.720 |
- So maybe you can kind of share about like how were we involved, how did that get started? 00:03:57.720 |
So this started before the school year, right before the school year, about mid-August. 00:04:03.720 |
And our professor who sponsors our group, he's pretty well-connected with the just campus 00:04:10.160 |
He kind of started a prayer group the year prior for just all Christians on campus. 00:04:14.680 |
So he's kind of well-known for just being a connector, and he's had some football players 00:04:21.320 |
in his class before, I believe, just built some friendships. 00:04:24.920 |
And it turns out that the OSU football team, there are some solid Christians who have been 00:04:29.600 |
kind of passing down the faith and reaching the next generation. 00:04:41.840 |
But really, two guys who had graduated, Cam Babb and Master Teague, you know, one of them 00:04:51.600 |
You know, they're still really connected to the players that have a really solid locker 00:04:57.040 |
And, you know, they were growing in their faith while they were on the football team. 00:05:01.640 |
And so there's just kind of a good culture going there. 00:05:03.480 |
You know, the guys there, they're really tight. 00:05:05.040 |
Apparently, you know, the ministers, the athletes, they've been really solid over the years. 00:05:13.980 |
You know, last year, there are three pretty awesome players who could have gone to the 00:05:19.440 |
And collectively, a bunch of the seniors on the OSU football team decide to forego going 00:05:23.700 |
to the NFL for a year, stay for their senior year, because they felt like God wanted to 00:05:30.020 |
- Not just to win a championship, which hopefully they do this year. 00:05:32.940 |
But yeah, we'll see, I mean, but they want to do something more for God. 00:05:38.860 |
And, you know, so they're like, Hey, you know, we should do something. 00:05:41.700 |
Now, mind you, this is like only a couple of weeks before the school year started. 00:05:45.740 |
And so they're like, let's put on a revival night, you know, let's share our testimonies. 00:05:53.080 |
Let's do some praise and then let's do on the spot baptisms. 00:05:57.560 |
Now, interestingly enough, the OSU football team is not considered a student group. 00:06:02.840 |
So they can't reserve venues, interesting, right? 00:06:09.600 |
So our professor just asked us, Hey, you know, I'm connected to the football team. 00:06:15.800 |
And I'm like, and they're like, we need a venue. 00:06:21.960 |
And he's like, well, you know, it's going to be kind of big, like they want to make 00:06:25.960 |
it like thousands of people and this is very last minute planning. 00:06:29.880 |
So, you know, there's possible that we're not going to follow 00:06:34.240 |
You know, there might be a few things happening. 00:06:37.080 |
And I'm just like, well, the football team is like, they're like dogs on campus. 00:06:46.540 |
Um, and so I'm like, well, what's the worst that could happen, right? 00:06:50.540 |
The football players are not going to shut us down or anything. 00:06:53.580 |
And, um, you know, our, our student president, you know, put in the reservations. 00:06:57.580 |
Um, they had to do some back and forth explain because it was such a last minute event of 00:07:07.260 |
The venue was on a giant lawn in the middle of the freshmen dorms. 00:07:16.420 |
There's a little bit of crisscross around it. 00:07:20.420 |
Cause at first they were thinking about a 500 person amphitheater, but they're like, I mean, 00:07:25.580 |
this is the OSU football players, like just the Christian groups alone are going to fill 00:07:33.920 |
Um, and I think what was really cool was, you know, it wasn't just our group, it was churches 00:07:40.200 |
I'd say a lot of the campus ministry groups is a collaboration amongst all of us. 00:07:43.800 |
We had a few meeting and planning calls, um, just to organize it, to do publicity. 00:07:49.140 |
They literally put posters, like printed thousands of posters, put them on everything, which was 00:07:55.180 |
It was called the fall football kickoff night or something like that. 00:08:00.020 |
And you have some of the players, you know, all off, they're like praying, praying to God. 00:08:09.540 |
Um, and so, you know, night comes, uh, we got to help out. 00:08:13.740 |
We got to help out with, you know, like ushering people that used our TV screen for pro-pre. 00:08:18.680 |
One of our staff got to be pro-pre, another guy got to, um, take video for them. 00:08:23.180 |
So, overall, it was a really cool event, you know, um, and basically what happened was, 00:08:29.900 |
you know, people start gathering, start bringing out their lawn chairs, 10, 15 minutes before 00:08:36.580 |
By the time it started and kind of really got going, I think they estimated about 2000 people 00:08:40.460 |
showed up, um, and it started with rock and praise. 00:08:44.400 |
But I think the best part was that all these players, um, they have legit testimonies and 00:08:51.020 |
You know, one of the star running backs, Travion Henderson, he was sharing, kind of went through 00:08:55.560 |
a period of depression after getting injured, but it was God who rescued him. 00:08:58.900 |
And now he realizes, like, man, life is so much more than football because you can get 00:09:06.040 |
And so some of these players, they were just sharing their heart. 00:09:08.360 |
And at the, the end, the tight end, man, he's a preacher in the making. 00:09:14.900 |
He's like, as people are walking by, he's like, Hey, you stop. 00:09:18.500 |
This is, you know, this is a chance to listen, you know, not cause we're football. 00:09:20.940 |
And so, you know, he's like, you know, and everyone's like, what is going on? 00:09:35.840 |
I mean, there's all these football players there. 00:09:37.480 |
And just people on the campus are streaming over, making decisions to follow Christ. 00:09:43.860 |
I mean, during the praise time, it was like raucous. 00:09:46.860 |
It felt a little bit like being in Acts 2 when like, you know, revival is coming onto campus. 00:09:54.340 |
And so, and then after that, uh, they did on the spot baptisms. 00:09:58.420 |
They had these five football tubs from the football facility, their ice baths. 00:10:02.000 |
So they brought them over and we helped fill them up and everything. 00:10:04.920 |
And then at first, actually, they asked some of the ministers to baptize people, but then 00:10:09.900 |
realized like, no, the football players want to do it. 00:10:14.580 |
Um, and then after the event, um, as people are getting baptized, we led them to a room where 00:10:19.660 |
they could get kind of just confirmed in what they like just did. 00:10:24.000 |
You know, they really want to make sure like these guys understand the decision, right? 00:10:27.660 |
It's not just, I want to go into water because football players are putting me in water. 00:10:30.400 |
So, you know, there was like, there was a good 30 minute session where, you know, they're 00:10:35.160 |
getting Bibles, they're getting connected to ministry groups. 00:10:38.880 |
And then, um, yeah, we basically kept going because praise started happening until the 00:10:44.640 |
cops came and told us we had to close the event. 00:10:48.900 |
So we quickly shut down everything as quick as we could cleaned up, emptied out the baptismals. 00:11:00.880 |
Some of those people who went to that event, I mean, they, you know, they spread out amongst 00:11:05.800 |
Um, yeah, so if you, I mean, like you can see this all online, you know, if you look 00:11:09.440 |
it up, there's Instagram videos and everything like that. 00:11:11.540 |
So in terms of the event itself, people can look that up. 00:11:14.200 |
But yeah, what was kind of your perspective doing a lot of the background work, having 00:11:19.220 |
What was something that stood out to you about the event that made it like maybe more than 00:11:23.680 |
just a revival night or like, yeah, maybe you can, you know, I think for me, um, and our 00:11:29.080 |
team, I think it was just kept telling them, Hey, we get to play a small part in something 00:11:35.080 |
You know, every single week on Saturday, we do, we have a prayer walk on campus. 00:11:39.040 |
We're praying for revival and you know, God, you know, there's no way one group can do that. 00:11:54.980 |
It's one of the top five biggest campuses, I think. 00:11:57.400 |
And, and it was just a privilege, I think, to get to play just even a little part knowing 00:12:03.620 |
like, Hey, our reservation allowed these guys to preach the gospel. 00:12:10.940 |
And I was like, this is what the church is about, you know? 00:12:15.940 |
I know that's, that's not, you know, always true of like every campus and the Christian 00:12:21.640 |
It's just by the sheer scale that all the Christian groups are like, we need every one of us to 00:12:28.860 |
Now, um, that, that kind of came into play a little later because there was some fallout. 00:12:34.880 |
So, so it, it, like I mentioned, it felt a little bit like the book of Acts. 00:12:38.500 |
So afterwards, you know, you expect, you know, this amazing event happening. 00:12:45.740 |
And, you know, we expected, okay, well, it's the football players. 00:12:48.680 |
They're probably not going to like get mad or anything like that. 00:12:52.260 |
Well, it turns out, you know, they probably still have to follow their rules. 00:12:58.620 |
You know, they're trying to follow the rules. 00:12:59.760 |
The school is trying to do what they're supposed to do. 00:13:01.380 |
But, um, our student president, our faculty sponsor, and I, we get called in by the school. 00:13:07.680 |
Um, we have to sit in front of all these very official people telling us all the violations 00:13:13.520 |
we made over the night, which we kind of knew was going to happen. 00:13:16.920 |
I mean, we lit posters went to like hundreds of people there. 00:13:21.680 |
So you're not supposed to do that kind of knew that, but, um, and then, you know, the 00:13:26.620 |
baptismals, it didn't, it wasn't on the actual reservation, so you have to list everything. 00:13:32.640 |
So it's not necessarily that you can't do it, but it was planned in like two weeks. 00:13:38.600 |
Um, so they talked to us, um, we got a little bit dinged by the campus. 00:13:42.680 |
Uh, we got put on probation as a group, so you could still reserve rooms, but, um, you have 00:13:47.060 |
to pay for it now, um, you know, that half the normal price and whatnot. 00:13:51.660 |
So it ended up tolling with all our reservations, maybe being about $5,000 cost, which, you know, 00:13:59.160 |
I'm thinking about like a couple of salvations, Hey, you know, totally worth it. 00:14:02.180 |
But, um, I think what was really cool though, was afterwards, um, a lot of local Christians 00:14:09.380 |
So they sent out an email, the football revival group to all the people saying, Hey, if you 00:14:14.840 |
want to donate, you know, the group that sponsored that to pay basically for some of that stuff. 00:14:19.660 |
Um, and then even a local kind of unite the city group contacted us and, uh, it's called 00:14:27.160 |
Um, they put in their newsletter if anyone wanted to donate to help with some of the funds. 00:14:32.680 |
And even through that, a lot of other people got to participate. 00:14:35.300 |
Um, but at first it really felt like, you know, the Sanhedrin are calling you in and flashing 00:14:40.180 |
you because in the back of my mind, I'm like, Oh, does this mean we're not going to have reservations 00:14:47.180 |
But then even other groups are saying like, Hey, you know, we can reserve rooms for you if 00:14:50.680 |
you need, like, we know that you took the bullet. 00:14:52.180 |
So it just felt like it brought a lot of people together and God was using that to bring people 00:14:59.800 |
All things considered, uh, having to pay for reservations, not the worst thing that I'm 00:15:04.420 |
like, other campus groups are paying for their reservations. 00:15:11.560 |
Um, like what, what has happened since on campus has the vibe changed or like, or more 00:15:20.120 |
So, um, there's really positive just overall, you just talk to people almost everyone on campus 00:15:27.880 |
I mean, it was in the newspapers and the local news. 00:15:31.380 |
Um, so overall people just had a really good impression. 00:15:33.680 |
I think just talking to other campus ministers, they just, they've all mentioned like they've 00:15:38.740 |
just been coming to all of our groups because they heard of it. 00:15:42.000 |
Parents have been telling their kids, Hey, go to that. 00:15:43.840 |
You know, um, it seems like the football players, from my understanding, I talked to a couple 00:15:50.520 |
They said they want to try something even bigger next semester where they can plan a little 00:15:57.840 |
Um, I do think that they're talking about renting out like the basketball auditorium or whatever 00:16:01.180 |
that can fit like tens of thousands, who knows what'll happen. 00:16:04.740 |
I think they're busy getting ready for the playoffs, but maybe after. 00:16:08.640 |
After the playoffs, they'll have a little time to settle down and figure out. 00:16:11.280 |
So I think they want to do something more before they graduate and they just want to like highlight 00:16:16.580 |
I mean, the whole night was about God and you know, cause they're football players, people 00:16:19.500 |
come, but they were really trying to just share the gospel and preach. 00:16:23.980 |
As you, as you share that, two things stand out to me. 00:16:25.480 |
One, it's so cool that like the most talked about event on campus is a Christian event. 00:16:30.880 |
You know, and, and, um, that, you know, not that we had that and in Philly, you know, but, 00:16:34.520 |
um, uh, I remember during our welcome week, just a lot of the Christian groups doing really 00:16:38.120 |
cool events and people just going like, why is this not a Christian group weekend and stuff 00:16:43.380 |
And it's just really neat when, um, you see that happen, um, that the, the Christian groups 00:16:47.440 |
are so active towards the campus that, that that's the most talked about thing. 00:16:52.220 |
So that, that itself, I think helps just set a certain kind of atmosphere on campus. 00:16:55.100 |
Second thing is like these football players are seniors. 00:16:58.660 |
And so like they want to take advantage of their last year to make that impact on campus. 00:17:02.720 |
And that's something we see in college ministry. 00:17:04.700 |
It's just really neat to see like football players doing that. 00:17:08.140 |
And like how, how that can, you know, impact the campus. 00:17:11.140 |
And so that's just very inspiring to hear that sort of thing. 00:17:16.020 |
It's kind of more a personal question for you, but, um, you played, you played football. 00:17:29.300 |
And I didn't look it back then, but you know, we came from a very small, humble school. 00:17:33.640 |
So even a guy like me could play a starting position. 00:17:36.140 |
So you, you, you played football in high school. 00:17:38.420 |
You, you weren't really Christian at the time. 00:17:41.380 |
I know your story, just, you're, you're my leader, you know, and then, but you're wearing 00:17:47.380 |
So what would, what would high school, non-Christian football gamer, woo-woo like see, like, what 00:17:55.640 |
would he think seeing you wearing this shirt and having done this thing? 00:17:58.580 |
He would be mind blown about how God can transform people and be like, wow, like who knew? 00:18:04.640 |
Like, I mean, part of the reason I was so excited to just say yes immediately was cause I love 00:18:17.200 |
I think, um, my story is just one of being able to step into places that God had already kind 00:18:23.200 |
of created, you know, like I grew up in church, wasn't a personal faith. 00:18:27.200 |
When I stepped into our church back in 2005, you know, I was always looking for something 00:18:31.480 |
more, you know, like if this thing is true, I really want to know. 00:18:37.040 |
Um, and when I got to our church, I found a compelling picture of people really wanting 00:18:41.360 |
to share their faith, living out the actual church, fell in love with it and been around 00:18:46.300 |
And, um, you know, that's why I stuck around with our church. 00:18:49.180 |
That's why I wanted to go out and keep reaching out to college students. 00:18:51.040 |
But it was seeing, um, both college students and young adults, uh, live out their faith 00:18:59.200 |
Um, and I think it's still one of the most compelling pictures. 00:19:04.000 |
I'm thankful you do that because, uh, because then I met you and now I'm here too, you know, 00:19:14.260 |
I can't root for you guys because there's like other people in our network and be like, "No! 00:19:21.260 |
This podcast does not endorse any official NFL team. 00:19:26.260 |
And man, we're, we're looking forward to hearing more of, yeah, hopefully more revival nights, 00:19:43.260 |
Thanks for tuning in and, uh, hope you can tune into our next episode.