back to indexIs There a Place for Asceticism in the Christian Life?
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Pastor John, hello, I've recently been studying 00:00:16.640 |
the life of St. Anthony through a book by Athanasius. 00:00:20.240 |
I'm curious about your thoughts on asceticism, 00:00:22.440 |
a practice of many Christians throughout the church age. 00:00:25.200 |
Is this a biblical way to live and pursue holiness? 00:00:29.440 |
Is it biblical to hold such a rigid self-discipline? 00:00:35.520 |
where Paul defines asceticism as severity to the body 00:00:44.840 |
So what are your thoughts on the place of asceticism 00:01:04.600 |
to pass judgment on his pattern of asceticism. 00:01:14.160 |
'cause I think that's what he's really getting at, 00:01:16.640 |
is there a legitimate place for severity to the body 00:01:24.200 |
Whenever we hear the Apostle Paul criticizing some teaching 00:01:36.400 |
from what he says what the false teachers are saying, 00:01:40.560 |
like listening to one end of the phone conversation. 00:01:46.360 |
There was some kind of false teaching going on 00:02:07.000 |
the insistence upon certain religious holy days, 00:02:11.320 |
days, months, and it seems that there are a cluster 00:02:16.320 |
of very basic rules, elemental principles, he calls them, 00:02:24.760 |
so that if you don't follow these ascetic rules 00:02:27.760 |
about food and drink and days and visions and angels, 00:02:32.520 |
Now, Paul's main criticism of what was happening 00:02:40.240 |
Christ, the all-supplying head of the church, 00:03:02.680 |
and let's listen for those kinds of false teachings. 00:03:09.720 |
"See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy 00:03:12.680 |
and empty deceit according to human tradition, 00:03:15.640 |
according to elemental principles of the world, 00:03:21.240 |
Now, we'll see what those elemental principles are 00:03:26.240 |
in just a moment, but notice the problem here 00:03:34.000 |
and these basic religious elemental principles 00:03:51.000 |
"Let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food 00:03:55.000 |
and drink with regard to a festival or a new moon 00:04:10.560 |
and Christ is the body, and the shadow is all those things 00:04:15.720 |
Let no one disqualify you insisting on asceticism 00:04:20.720 |
and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, 00:04:25.360 |
puffed up," there's the problem underneath this, 00:04:28.760 |
"puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, 00:04:41.840 |
What he's being replaced with is food, drink, 00:04:52.240 |
probably the reference to food and drink means 00:04:58.720 |
rather than you must eat them or you must drink them. 00:05:13.440 |
"If with Christ you died to the elemental principles 00:05:17.600 |
of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, 00:05:25.840 |
And I think these are the elemental principles 00:05:32.320 |
referring to things that all perish when used 00:05:39.640 |
in promoting self-made religion and asceticism 00:05:44.160 |
and a severity to the body, but they're of no value 00:06:06.720 |
following these elemental principles and rules. 00:06:12.480 |
Twice we've heard Paul say that the problem is 00:06:22.440 |
And all the other defects with this false teaching 00:06:35.840 |
So this false teaching at Colossae is failing in two ways. 00:06:57.800 |
Asceticism has a legitimate place in the Christian life 00:07:14.280 |
and not eating and drinking can become boastful 00:07:31.640 |
Do you deny yourself certain legitimate pleasures 00:07:37.360 |
The main questions are, is Christ being exalted 00:08:03.840 |
because the false teachers at Colossae were using it 00:08:16.560 |
that we are not being enslaved by any good thing. 00:08:20.920 |
For example, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 9.25, 00:08:32.560 |
I discipline my body and keep it under control 00:08:43.320 |
I mean, it's a pretty strong word, sometimes translated, 00:08:53.960 |
in order to protect himself against sin and unbelief. 00:09:06.560 |
In other words, the issue is not that food and drink 00:09:13.600 |
but that we ought not to be enslaved or dominated 00:09:30.360 |
And so Jesus said, "If anyone would come after me, 00:09:32.520 |
let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me." 00:09:36.560 |
In other words, we dare not treat all asceticism as bad. 00:09:41.560 |
And of course, we should not treat God's good gifts 00:09:47.680 |
of food and drink and friendship and marriage 00:10:14.560 |
for it is made holy by the word of God in prayer." 00:10:24.840 |
if we receive his good gifts with thankfulness, 00:10:28.040 |
which shows that he's the good and generous Savior. 00:10:34.680 |
by strategically denying ourselves some of his good gifts 00:10:46.000 |
And the problem of the false teaching at Colossae 00:10:52.000 |
was being put into elemental principles or rules 00:10:56.400 |
that instead of exalting the worth and beauty 00:11:03.520 |
This calls for great wisdom and insight into our own hearts. 00:11:10.960 |
One, enjoy God's good gifts with thankfulness 00:11:15.960 |
to make much of him and his grace and his generosity. 00:11:19.920 |
And two, deny yourself in order to defeat sinful bondage 00:11:25.680 |
and show that the giver is more precious to you 00:11:34.600 |
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