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Welcome to Radical Personal Finance, the show dedicated to providing you with the knowledge, 00:00:04.000 |
insight, skills, and encouragement you need to live a rich and meaningful life now while 00:00:08.840 |
building a plan for financial freedom in 10 years or less. 00:00:12.600 |
Today on the show we tackle a thorny financial planning problem. 00:00:17.720 |
This week I was working with a consulting client of mine, someone that I have worked 00:00:22.520 |
with here and there over the years, and this particular client is a very young man. 00:00:28.400 |
He is financially competent and he was unexpectedly diagnosed with a very significant and serious 00:00:40.520 |
He originally wrote to me after his initial diagnosis and said that he wished that he 00:00:45.080 |
had taken my advice to buy more disability income insurance, but that he thought it really 00:00:49.920 |
would never relate to him, so he had chosen not to. 00:00:54.720 |
So I tell that to you, if you have heard me give advice or if there's something in your 00:00:58.880 |
personal financial plan that you know you should do, as in buy disability insurance, 00:01:03.200 |
buy life insurance, get it done, because this particular young man was diagnosed with this 00:01:08.880 |
serious and aggressive form of cancer in his early 20s. 00:01:12.320 |
For the last few years he has battled the cancer and at present the prognosis is good. 00:01:16.960 |
The cancer has gone into remission and he has recently married his long-time girlfriend 00:01:22.440 |
who was with him through the medical trial they have recently married and are now building 00:01:29.440 |
But of course this particular type of health diagnosis and this particular type of health 00:01:34.200 |
history changes the normal tone of a relationship a little bit. 00:01:39.100 |
It brings mortality much more quickly into view, causes a more intense seriousness, and 00:01:45.320 |
brings with it a couple of challenging circumstances for financial planning. 00:01:51.040 |
If you've ever personally experienced an ongoing health problem or you've ever worked with 00:01:56.320 |
somebody, you know how important good insurance is to somebody in that circumstance. 00:02:01.240 |
There are many people who have severe medical conditions and the only reason they work is 00:02:06.040 |
to maintain a good, solid, low-cost health insurance plan. 00:02:11.360 |
There are many people who have severe health histories, and when that happens, the existing 00:02:17.400 |
insurance portfolio, life insurance, disability income insurance, and health insurance, really 00:02:24.400 |
Now thankfully my friend and client is doing better now, so I'm very pleased for that. 00:02:31.320 |
But we spent some time working to say, "How do you plan for your wife as a husband? 00:02:37.160 |
How do you plan for your wife and potentially children in the future when you can't get 00:02:43.840 |
And this is something I've thought a lot about and I thought it would be interesting for 00:02:47.160 |
me to share with you the advice that I gave to him. 00:02:50.600 |
Now I hope that you'll listen to this with two things in mind. 00:02:59.440 |
Life insurance is the simplest and easiest way to do it. 00:03:02.240 |
An average healthy 20 or 30-year-old man or woman could get a million dollars of term 00:03:06.560 |
life insurance for under 50 bucks a month, anywhere from 30, 40, 50 bucks a month. 00:03:18.500 |
And also take my advice on life insurance seriously. 00:03:21.160 |
When I talk about why I shy away from things like 10-year level term insurance in favor 00:03:30.560 |
As a financial planner, it's really frustrating to know of a circumstance where good planning 00:03:36.560 |
that allowed options in the future would have made the difference. 00:03:40.140 |
And that's why so much advice, especially around life insurance, is short-sighted. 00:03:46.700 |
The weird thing about, just like if you work as a firefighter, you see a lot of people 00:03:51.700 |
broken, a lot of dead bodies and hurt bodies because people don't wear their seatbelts. 00:03:58.540 |
And so you probably are an advocate for seatbelts and airbags in cars and safe driving. 00:04:03.420 |
If you're a police officer, you encounter so much violence on a regular basis that you 00:04:07.900 |
become an advocate for people to prepare themselves against violence. 00:04:12.620 |
If you've worked as a financial planner, as I have, you become an advocate for recognizing 00:04:18.420 |
And so these small probability events, like a healthy mid-20s male getting a serious and 00:04:26.560 |
aggressive form of cancer and almost dying, these small probability events take on much 00:04:38.060 |
I don't deny the unlikely probability, but here's the problem with probabilities. 00:04:43.460 |
Although something may be statistically unlikely, as measured of percentage, number of people 00:04:52.100 |
affected per 100,000, very statistically unlikely, but if it happens to you, it's devastating. 00:04:58.940 |
So many people can go through their lives never having life insurance, never having 00:05:02.580 |
homeowner's insurance, never having car insurance. 00:05:05.600 |
Many people can go through their lives and never have a problem. 00:05:12.620 |
So one is I encourage you to think carefully and properly insure yourself now while you 00:05:22.880 |
And even in this particular case, this young man didn't have parents, or sorry, he had 00:05:28.060 |
He had a girlfriend, I think, when he originally had his initial cancer diagnosis. 00:05:31.980 |
But people ask me, "Joshua, why do you recommend to single people they get life insurance? 00:05:39.000 |
But I tell you what, when you have been living with your parents, fighting cancer for a few 00:05:45.200 |
years and they've been paying your bills, taking you places to treatments, when you've 00:05:50.340 |
been with your girlfriend and she's been sticking by you in difficult times, and then if you 00:05:56.880 |
knew you were going to die, it may help you to feel a little bit better to be able to 00:06:03.080 |
just take out your half a million or million dollar term life insurance policy and make 00:06:08.440 |
sure that that beneficiary designation is sending some money to your parents and to 00:06:13.720 |
No, it's not technically necessary because they're not reliant upon you for your income. 00:06:25.020 |
But I just put myself in that situation and I would feel a lot better. 00:06:30.560 |
And if I knew that my parents were going to go through grief of my dying because I had 00:06:34.480 |
cancer, and I knew they had incurred heavy financial costs and lifestyle costs from their 00:06:40.520 |
multi-year care for me, and then if I knew I were headed for death, I would feel better 00:06:46.700 |
about at least knowing that when I die, a couple hundred thousand dollars will help 00:06:51.320 |
them to be able to perhaps take a little time to grieve for me and yet not to feel financial 00:06:57.720 |
pressure and to repay them in some small way for some of the financial costs that they 00:07:03.920 |
So life insurance is very, very useful, and it's why I'm such a steady advocate of life 00:07:13.960 |
But also, listen in the context of today's show, listen for both this particular unique 00:07:20.620 |
creative approach to how do you plan when you can't get life insurance, but also think 00:07:24.760 |
about financial independence and financial freedom. 00:07:27.240 |
Because many of the things that I'm going to describe to you in this show are basically 00:07:30.600 |
the same things that you do for financial independence and financial freedom. 00:07:35.160 |
In essence, we're trying to solve the same problem here. 00:07:38.560 |
We're trying to say, "How do I make sure that somebody's able to continue on when I die, 00:07:44.680 |
but knowing that I can't leave money behind?" 00:07:49.680 |
So that's the problem that we're going to solve. 00:07:52.560 |
So first, for anybody who is in this situation, if you can't get life insurance, the first 00:07:58.620 |
thing you need to know is it may actually be possible for you to get it if you shop 00:08:04.960 |
And here I would refer you back to episode 204 of Radical Personal Finance. 00:08:12.940 |
That episode was titled, "A Behind-the-Scenes Look into High-Risk Life Insurance Underwriting." 00:08:17.520 |
It was an interview with a friend of mine named Todd Simpson, who specializes in high-risk 00:08:22.960 |
Let's go back and listen to episode 204, because sometimes what one agent may not be able to 00:08:27.480 |
get done, another agent may be able to get done. 00:08:29.960 |
There are hundreds of life insurance companies that are all competing for business. 00:08:33.920 |
And there are some companies who may not want your business because of your personal medical 00:08:39.320 |
profile, but there are other companies that may want your business. 00:08:42.600 |
Now generally with cancer, if somebody has had a recent cancer diagnosis, the answer 00:08:48.520 |
At least for about five years is the industry standard. 00:08:52.120 |
What life insurance companies get very concerned about is being confronted with medical change. 00:08:58.760 |
They don't like change, because change is hard to predict. 00:09:02.360 |
So they don't like somebody who's recently had a health condition diagnosed, and they 00:09:07.080 |
don't like somebody who's recently been cleared of a previous medical diagnosis. 00:09:13.840 |
They want time, because time brings stability to the diagnosis. 00:09:17.760 |
So with cancer, if you have survived a cancer diagnosis, frequently you may be able to go 00:09:24.160 |
ahead and get a policy, but usually it'll be at least about five years after your diagnosis. 00:09:30.080 |
But reach out to multiple life insurance agents. 00:09:32.720 |
Try to reach with somebody who specializes in high-risk life insurance cases and who 00:09:40.440 |
So if you have diabetes, if you have heart disease, if you have a cancer history, if 00:09:44.000 |
you have some other medical condition, and if you need life insurance, then remember 00:09:48.800 |
to go and just work hard and work with multiple agents. 00:09:54.780 |
Go to an agent and do your best to get life insurance. 00:09:59.640 |
The next suggestion for you is go ahead and try to get insurance when there is no medical 00:10:07.960 |
Now here's where you get the value of a group insurance contract. 00:10:12.540 |
With many companies, many companies provide as a package of their benefits a group life 00:10:21.000 |
And frequently a group life insurance contract will either be issued with no medical underwriting 00:10:33.600 |
But depending on the business that you work in or the company that you work with, there 00:10:38.720 |
I've worked with a number of clients over the years who have very high amounts of group 00:10:43.360 |
life insurance as a component of that firm's benefits. 00:10:47.620 |
So you should look for any kind of life insurance that you can get without medical underwriting. 00:10:53.800 |
Don't despise it even if it's a relatively small amount. 00:10:57.720 |
You might like to have a million or two million dollars of life insurance, but you might only 00:11:05.040 |
But $50,000 goes a long way towards giving your spouse a few months to recover, towards 00:11:13.160 |
wrapping up some medical bills, towards getting some breathing room, etc. 00:11:19.400 |
Also remember that group contracts can be changed. 00:11:22.980 |
So if you have a position of influence and you would like to change the group contract, 00:11:27.960 |
you could always try to work with somebody to see if they could enhance the group contract. 00:11:32.360 |
The chances of that happening are low, but you might be in a position where that could 00:11:36.200 |
happen and a reworking of group benefits could qualify you for an additional amount of insurance. 00:11:43.280 |
And don't despise small bits of life insurance. 00:11:45.640 |
You may be able to join an organization or an association, and frequently an organization 00:11:52.880 |
or association would entitle you to be able to get a small amount of life insurance, and 00:12:03.480 |
So obviously try to get life insurance and try to get it in any way that you possibly 00:12:11.680 |
If you have $0 of life insurance and you can put together a $10,000 policy that was guaranteed 00:12:17.000 |
issue, no underwriting, it's a little bit expensive, but that covers you, and then $25,000 00:12:22.680 |
from joining some organization that was marketing to you, and then a one or two-time salary 00:12:29.400 |
at work, you may be able to put together enough life insurance to be meaningful for your family. 00:12:35.240 |
Next, before we get into the creative approaches that don't involve financial products, let's 00:12:44.320 |
talk about some unique financial products that might help you and are worth your paying 00:12:53.040 |
So let's start with other insurance programs. 00:12:58.440 |
Life insurance, if you think about what it's designed to fund, there are a number of things 00:13:05.960 |
One is paying off debt for a surviving spouse. 00:13:09.560 |
Another would be providing income for an ongoing period for a surviving spouse, and another 00:13:14.640 |
example of what it would fund is taking care of things like medical bills. 00:13:19.040 |
Frequently somebody will acquire medical bills towards the end of their life, and so life 00:13:22.840 |
insurance can be helpful to pay off some of those medical bills. 00:13:26.600 |
But if you think about that, you may be able to substitute an alternative insurance product 00:13:32.040 |
Here's where you get the value of a strong health insurance contract. 00:13:35.640 |
So you may not be able to get life insurance, but can you make sure that your health insurance 00:13:39.120 |
contract is the strongest you could possibly get, or a disability insurance contract is 00:13:46.160 |
If you think about a health diagnosis like cancer, somebody who has a severe form of 00:13:50.720 |
cancer, they are weakened by their cancer treatment, they're unable to work. 00:13:54.920 |
If somebody has good disability income insurance during that period of time, they can at least 00:14:00.200 |
have an income, and that income can go to help their family. 00:14:03.380 |
So don't be scared if you're in a situation like this. 00:14:06.440 |
Don't be scared to change jobs or change companies just based upon the overall package of benefits, 00:14:13.320 |
the overall package of a strong group long-term disability insurance contract that doesn't 00:14:18.320 |
require personal underwriting and medical qualification, or a strong health insurance 00:14:24.960 |
contract that will result in relatively low out-of-pocket costs for you. 00:14:29.720 |
Those types of products can help to minimize the potential for you to have large medical 00:14:37.840 |
The next type of financial product to consider is something that has a death benefit, and 00:14:42.640 |
that death benefit is not individually underwritten. 00:14:45.360 |
The most obvious example here is something like the value of an annuity contract. 00:14:50.520 |
One of the recommendations that I made to my client was that he consider transitioning 00:14:55.440 |
some of his investment dollars out of traditional mutual funds and into an annuity contract. 00:15:07.900 |
In essence, an annuity contract is an insurance contract issued by an insurance company that 00:15:14.160 |
is designed to function as the opposite of life insurance. 00:15:17.800 |
A life insurance contract is a financial product that's designed to pay out a sum of money 00:15:23.520 |
You make premium payments into the contract, and then at death that contract pays out a 00:15:32.600 |
An annuity contract is, in its most traditional sense, designed to take a large amount of 00:15:38.040 |
money as a lump sum and then to pay it out for somebody's entire lifetime. 00:15:44.400 |
A traditional annuity contract, something that would go under the classification of 00:15:49.360 |
what's called a single premium immediate annuity, would be a way for you to say, "Here, Mr. 00:15:57.440 |
Will you please take my $500,000 from me and in exchange guarantee me a monthly payment 00:16:03.560 |
of $4,000 per month every month for the rest of my life?" or some variation of that. 00:16:13.640 |
However, that basic concept has been expanded into dozens and dozens of flavors of annuities. 00:16:23.640 |
That traditional single premium immediate annuity can be affected in a number of ways. 00:16:29.200 |
The two ways that are important in this context are these. 00:16:33.400 |
First, you can change a single premium immediate annuity into a deferred annuity. 00:16:41.200 |
A deferred annuity is a contract with a life insurance company wherein you can systematically 00:16:47.920 |
either put in monthly payments or you can transfer in a lump sum, and then you can defer 00:16:55.040 |
the receiving of money from that contract to the future. 00:17:04.440 |
The second reason it can be helpful is in this way. 00:17:08.840 |
You can take an annuity contract and you can choose to have it either be what's called 00:17:14.920 |
a fixed annuity, which is a guaranteed fixed rate of interest that's guaranteed by the 00:17:19.840 |
insurance company, or you can have what's called a variable annuity. 00:17:24.040 |
A variable annuity is an investment product that features an underlying investment account 00:17:30.120 |
or group of accounts, and that performance of that underlying account or group of accounts 00:17:36.840 |
creates within the context of the annuity contract an underlying investment return. 00:17:42.280 |
In the world of annuities, these are called variable subaccounts. 00:17:46.460 |
They function in basic equivalence to a mutual fund. 00:17:51.440 |
A mutual fund in the open marketplace just simply is taken and brought under the wrapper 00:17:56.760 |
of the insurance contract, and it's called a variable subaccount. 00:18:00.280 |
Frequently, if you're working with a large annuity provider, you would have the ability 00:18:04.520 |
to purchase shares in exactly the same internal account. 00:18:11.920 |
The big mutual company growth and income fund could be labeled publicly and privately. 00:18:20.160 |
You'll frequently see if you look at an insurance company, you look at their subaccounts, you'll 00:18:24.040 |
see the names of the management companies, and you'll also see the specific products 00:18:32.120 |
So it allows you to own mutual funds inside of an annuity contract. 00:18:36.200 |
Now sometimes, this is a bad idea, frequently these types of variable annuities get a bad 00:18:42.460 |
wrap in the personal finance space because they're more expensive. 00:18:46.500 |
The reason they're more expensive is because an annuity contract adds an additional insurance 00:18:51.800 |
charge onto the underlying investment fund expenses of the subaccount. 00:18:58.880 |
If you think about the structure of an annuity contract, and you think about the fees that 00:19:04.880 |
are paid, the first problem you have is the fees of the underlying subaccounts. 00:19:09.600 |
If you have a fidelity fund that is in your annuity contract, and you have a fidelity 00:19:18.260 |
fund that you're purchasing as an open-end mutual fund in the public market, you still 00:19:23.240 |
in both of those cases have investment expenses. 00:19:26.300 |
You have all of the fees for administrative costs, all of the fees that are paid to the 00:19:32.120 |
And so those fees are going to be identical in your public open-end mutual fund that you 00:19:37.040 |
purchase in the public market versus your individual subaccount that you can fund your 00:19:45.400 |
And because frequently the funds that are in a subaccount are actively managed funds, 00:19:50.440 |
those fees are high, just like all actively managed mutual funds are. 00:19:56.440 |
But the second set of fees that get placed onto a variable annuity contract are what's 00:20:05.480 |
And these fees can range from very small to very large, depending on the individual feature 00:20:16.960 |
We're just going to charge a small mortality and expense charge because we're an insurance 00:20:20.460 |
company and we're going to make you this promise in the future. 00:20:23.520 |
But then inside a variable annuity contract, sometimes you can add on additional enhanced 00:20:28.760 |
The most meaningful in the context here of our financial planning scenario is what's 00:20:33.700 |
called a guaranteed death benefit or some form of enhanced guaranteed death benefit. 00:20:42.200 |
Let's pretend that my client had $100,000 in a mutual fund. 00:20:46.120 |
Well, he may be concerned about keeping that money in a mutual fund if he's concerned about 00:20:57.000 |
If he keeps the money of $100,000 in the mutual fund and then he gets cancer, what happens 00:21:01.440 |
if the market has declined by 30% when he gets cancer and has declined from $100,000 00:21:09.760 |
That could be very problematic because if he dies of cancer and his wife needs the money 00:21:14.560 |
or if he needs to access it for his own expenses, he just can't afford to take the risk. 00:21:19.940 |
And if he can't afford to take the risk, then he can't afford really in the long run to 00:21:26.320 |
It would be unwise for him to have all this money invested if he thought he were going 00:21:32.680 |
But a death benefit and annuity contract can elegantly solve this problem. 00:21:37.600 |
There are a number of different approaches to death benefits, and I'm going to give you 00:21:40.320 |
just two very simple ones that are relatively inexpensive, and there are other annuity contracts 00:21:50.400 |
There's a whole line of annuity products that have a ratcheting death benefit that's beyond 00:21:55.400 |
the scope of what I want to talk about today. 00:21:57.660 |
But one form of death benefit is just a guaranteed return of the amount of money put into the 00:22:03.400 |
So in this case, if you put $100,000 into the contract and then the value of the underlying 00:22:11.280 |
subaccounts in the contract decline because the stock market is declining, let's say the 00:22:16.160 |
value declines from $100,000 to $70,000, and then you die, the insurance company will pay 00:22:22.000 |
out your initial contribution of $100,000 to your beneficiaries. 00:22:28.040 |
That can help you to keep your investments invested aggressively because you can know 00:22:34.820 |
that at least you'll always get the return of the money that you've put in. 00:22:39.220 |
That's the cheapest death benefit, and that's basically a standard option on almost all 00:22:44.080 |
variable annuity contracts, at least that I have ever seen personally and studied the 00:22:51.060 |
One example of another type of death benefit that you can purchase is a small, what's called 00:22:59.000 |
The way that works is you have a death benefit on the contract that always goes up, and it 00:23:05.260 |
always goes up at something like your policy anniversary. 00:23:09.300 |
So in this example, if you invest $100,000 into the contract, and then a year from now 00:23:16.060 |
that contract has grown to be $120,000, and then four years from now that contract has 00:23:22.660 |
grown to be $150,000, each year on the policy anniversary, whatever the contract value of 00:23:29.740 |
the account is, that becomes your new death benefit. 00:23:34.700 |
Now after your new death benefit has reached $150,000, perhaps there is a recession and 00:23:40.300 |
the value of your underlying investments decreases. 00:23:46.580 |
The death benefit doesn't ratchet down, it only ratchets up. 00:23:51.000 |
So you know that that $150,000 will always be available as a death benefit for your beneficiary. 00:23:58.120 |
Even if the market is down for three or four years, at least you have that death benefit. 00:24:03.980 |
That's the type of product that can be really helpful to somebody in this situation, because 00:24:08.980 |
it solves the problem of allowing you to invest for the long term, allowing you to invest 00:24:15.340 |
in potentially volatile assets like stocks, but to also make sure that you have a death 00:24:22.160 |
And that can be a substantial benefit for someone in this circumstance, especially if 00:24:29.040 |
they are someone who has a shortened lifespan. 00:24:34.320 |
This may even help to engage in a little bit of adverse selection against the insurance 00:24:39.640 |
company, because if you purchase a contract with this type of death benefit, then you 00:24:44.120 |
personally have an incentive to perhaps consider investing the money as aggressively as possible. 00:24:53.620 |
After all, if you're not going to use the cash while you're alive, you don't think, 00:24:58.640 |
or you think it's possible that you might not use the cash while you're alive, then 00:25:02.600 |
why not go ahead and invest in an aggressive portfolio, trying to aim for the largest growth, 00:25:09.840 |
knowing that if the portfolio declines, at least you have the death benefit, and at least 00:25:16.660 |
So that can work for someone in this circumstance. 00:25:21.080 |
That's the best example I can think of as the value of looking at other types of insurance 00:25:25.680 |
products and looking to see, is there a potential death benefit that I can get? 00:25:31.480 |
And so you should seriously consider that if that plays a role in your plans. 00:25:37.400 |
If I were in the type of situation that I'm describing, I would move many of my investment 00:25:46.900 |
If I had open-end mutual funds, I would move them out of open-end mutual funds, and I would 00:25:50.520 |
move them into an annuity, variable annuity, with a sub-account in order to get the benefit 00:25:58.620 |
Many people, it's not a significant benefit, and it can be a significant cost. 00:26:04.160 |
Those additional mortality and expense charges can be significant, but that death benefit 00:26:09.680 |
can be very valuable in a circumstance like I am describing. 00:26:13.400 |
Now here would be another example of something you should consider. 00:26:17.940 |
This would be appropriate if you were at an older age, not my mid-20s client, but if you 00:26:22.840 |
were at an older age and you had something like an annuity or you had something like 00:26:27.080 |
a sum of money, you should seriously consider your distribution plan from an annuity. 00:26:35.880 |
Now if you are in a severe medical state, there do exist enhanced risk or increased 00:26:46.040 |
risk annuity contracts, which are actually, the annuity payout is actually medically underwritten. 00:26:53.960 |
Usually if you have a sum of money and you're trying to get a sum of money out of an annuity 00:26:59.120 |
contract, usually there's no medical test for that. 00:27:03.360 |
But there are increased risk products where they'll come and they'll say, "Okay, you 00:27:10.100 |
We think you're probably going to die at an early age, so we'll pay you an extra amount 00:27:13.040 |
of money out of this annuity because of the fact that you have cancer." 00:27:16.880 |
But in this context, if you knew that you were going to die soon, you would have good 00:27:20.120 |
financial incentive to carefully consider what annuity payout you're going to choose 00:27:27.800 |
And you might choose a benefit that had the highest ongoing benefit for your surviving 00:27:32.680 |
spouse so that instead of having something that was, for example, an annuity payout plan 00:27:40.400 |
That would be unwise because there's a good chance that the insurance company would keep 00:27:44.960 |
But in the other case, if you were likely to die soon and your spouse were likely to 00:27:48.920 |
not die for a long time, you would be wiser to, say, purchase a life income payout that 00:27:56.560 |
would be the same amount for you and the same amount for her for the rest of your life. 00:28:00.600 |
So carefully consider the various benefits and think of this in mind. 00:28:05.680 |
Now let's get back out of the weeds of financial products, although hopefully those suggestions 00:28:13.320 |
Before we get out of the weeds, there are other potential products. 00:28:17.800 |
Sometimes you can purchase a, you can consider things like a combo product. 00:28:24.280 |
Sometimes there are life insurance and long-term care combination products. 00:28:28.600 |
Usually those wouldn't work for somebody who's already had a medical diagnosis because of 00:28:34.480 |
their, they wouldn't be able to qualify either for the long-term care or for the life insurance. 00:28:40.600 |
But if you already have a product, sometimes you may be able to adjust the product that 00:28:50.160 |
The basic plan for finances is, basic plan for how to solve this problem is to try to 00:29:02.240 |
And it depends, there's a big difference here depending on if you are already in a 00:29:06.000 |
strong situation or if you're not in a strong financial situation. 00:29:11.040 |
The ideal circumstance is you're already financially independent and you should be working towards 00:29:15.920 |
Because if you're financially independent and then you die, by definition your spouse 00:29:21.840 |
So I'm going to describe to you how I would do this if I received a cancer diagnosis and 00:29:26.960 |
I had an expected lifespan of five to ten years. 00:29:29.840 |
I'm going to explain to you how I would do this. 00:29:33.040 |
First let's pretend that I get this diagnosis and I'm in a very difficult financial situation. 00:29:38.920 |
If you know someone in this situation, I want you to learn this information so that you 00:29:42.520 |
can go and help them and teach them, possibly refer them to this show so they can at least 00:29:46.520 |
improve their circumstance the best way possible. 00:29:49.800 |
Let's pretend that I am very financially unhealthy. 00:29:53.240 |
I have a lot of debt, I'm having income problems, we have some assets but not a lot. 00:29:59.960 |
This is common because by the time somebody gets a diagnosis, they frequently are already 00:30:06.280 |
They frequently are accumulating credit card debt to pay for living expenses while they 00:30:10.080 |
try to figure out what's wrong with their health situation. 00:30:13.500 |
They're frequently accumulating credit card debt and draining down assets to pay for additional 00:30:18.080 |
medical costs, co-pays, medications that aren't covered under health insurance, etc. 00:30:22.780 |
And so frequently by the time somebody gets a terminal diagnosis, they are in a deep place 00:30:31.600 |
So let me describe what I would do if I were in a situation. 00:30:35.920 |
The first thing that I would try to do is I would try to figure out how I could minimize 00:30:40.720 |
the burden on my wife, who I would expect to survive me by a long period of time. 00:30:46.800 |
And I would use every trick that I know to try to make sure that she is not liable for 00:30:53.400 |
any debts, if at all possible, and to make sure that she has as much money as possible 00:31:02.200 |
Now you need to be careful in some of these circumstances because you face the risk, if 00:31:06.920 |
you are structuring your transactions, you face the risk of a court coming back and undoing 00:31:19.680 |
I know I'm going to die next week, and so the last thing I do is go and take a cash 00:31:26.360 |
Let's say I have a $50,000 limit and I take out a $40,000 cash advance for my credit card. 00:31:31.760 |
I take that money and I give it to my brother, thinking that when I die, that at least he'll 00:31:39.400 |
have the money and that debt, well, they're never going to collect it. 00:31:44.520 |
That's a pretty significant potential problem. 00:31:47.520 |
And I think there would be a good case for the credit card company to sue your estate 00:31:51.360 |
and try to claw back that money from your brother. 00:31:54.840 |
That's a serious and significant...that would be...I think they would have a good legal 00:32:01.320 |
I'm not aware of any case history, but I think they would have in that circumstance a good 00:32:08.400 |
However, you can use the same approach yourself in perhaps a more practical way. 00:32:14.760 |
The basic thing I would first look at is I would look at all of our assets and I would 00:32:18.480 |
try to say, "What is the ownership of our assets? 00:32:37.040 |
How are our accounts structured, our bank accounts, etc.? 00:32:40.320 |
If all of those things are joint accounts, I would do my best to start a process of transferring 00:32:47.120 |
assets from joint ownership into my wife's ownership exclusively. 00:32:52.160 |
Again, in my scenario, I'm pretending that I'm going to die. 00:32:54.600 |
I've got a few years of a diagnosis and my wife is going to survive me. 00:32:58.960 |
I would try to transfer all of my assets out of my name and into my wife's name. 00:33:04.880 |
As best we can, I would try to make a clear legal distinction in the ownership of assets 00:33:14.280 |
I want to do this early, as early as I possibly can, so that we don't run the risk of right 00:33:21.480 |
at the end trying to make some kind of transfer and then somebody sues us as a fraudulent 00:33:28.180 |
There is no reason in the world why I can't give my wife everything I own. 00:33:32.640 |
It's not a fraudulent transaction, but in the way that I do it, I should be wise and 00:33:38.480 |
circumspect in the actual approach that I use. 00:33:45.320 |
I would go so far as to say, if I own something and it's already jointly owned, can I make 00:33:51.060 |
an intelligent trade so that my wife will wind up owning whatever the next thing is? 00:33:59.080 |
In a moment I'll talk about making sure that the house would be financially sustainable 00:34:04.440 |
But if we own a house together and I can't just quit claiming and get that out of my 00:34:09.320 |
name, which would be hard because of the way that at least most houses would be owned, 00:34:14.760 |
I would consider selling the house and I would say, can we downsize into a small house, but 00:34:19.400 |
when we buy the next one, can I make sure that my wife is the one who owns it fully? 00:34:28.800 |
The second thing I would try to do is I would try to transfer all of the debt in the house 00:34:34.720 |
Oh, anything possible, I would transfer liabilities into my name. 00:34:39.040 |
When you die, your estate has to stand good and pay your debts. 00:34:48.640 |
But just because that is true doesn't mean you have to have a big, healthy estate of 00:34:56.920 |
So I want to disconnect, as much as we can figure out how to do, I want to disconnect 00:35:04.040 |
our asset ownership and move everything that we own into her name and then refinance and 00:35:12.440 |
If we have joint credit cards that have balances, I'm going to apply for new credit cards in 00:35:17.660 |
my name and I'm going to use those new credit cards to pay off the balance of the old credit 00:35:24.340 |
The goal is that my name is on all the debt and her name is on all the assets. 00:35:29.180 |
That will help to make sure that when I die, she's not stuck owing a lot of money. 00:35:38.200 |
Additionally what I would do is I would try to make sure that our assets that we do own 00:35:47.880 |
The most important types of accounts here are retirement accounts. 00:35:52.540 |
This sometimes cannot be workable because of the high expenses. 00:35:56.520 |
If you have high expenses to keep yourself going, it may not work. 00:36:00.900 |
But I would try to make sure that any money that we have is moved into retirement accounts. 00:36:07.900 |
So if, for example, we have $100,000 in the bank and we have $0 in a 401(k), I'm going 00:36:16.780 |
to divert as much of our income into that 401(k) account as possible and minimize the 00:36:27.260 |
This helps me to move assets from insecure places, as in the bank, into more secured 00:36:33.620 |
places, into my 401(k) accounts, which are protected from the claims of creditors. 00:36:38.260 |
This will help to protect my wife, especially if I have a significant account balance. 00:36:46.740 |
That account is secure from the claims of creditors. 00:36:49.400 |
And even if she owed money, let's say that I weren't able to get all the debt into 00:36:55.340 |
my name so that it would die with me, even if she owed money, at least the money that's 00:37:00.840 |
in the 401(k) would be secure from the claims of her creditors. 00:37:04.060 |
And that would help to assure her future retirement. 00:37:07.540 |
She may need to declare bankruptcy after I'm dead. 00:37:12.700 |
At least the money that's in those accounts is protected. 00:37:15.700 |
A 401(k) account, an IRA account, hopefully in your state, it has that same level of protection. 00:37:31.780 |
It's not quite as strong as a 401(k), but it's going to do the job. 00:37:36.220 |
And fund these accounts and move the assets as much as you can out beyond the reach of 00:37:45.280 |
In addition, make sure that you minimize the ownership of money that's in accounts. 00:37:52.540 |
So move money out of the bank, move it into cash. 00:37:55.220 |
Move money out of the bank, move it into hard assets. 00:37:58.860 |
Assets that can be owned by your wife and are not as easily traced as money that's sitting 00:38:10.960 |
Your number one goal in this situation should be to care for your loved ones. 00:38:14.960 |
Long-time listeners of Radical Personal Finance know I very much want you to always stand 00:38:26.160 |
But I want people who are in a difficult situation to be equipped with knowledge. 00:38:32.260 |
I despise hearing about families who are facing cancer and their credit card companies are 00:38:40.200 |
calling and they start cashing money out of the 401(k) in order to pay the credit cards. 00:38:52.480 |
You'll pay them when you can, but while you're dealing with it, keep your protection in place 00:38:57.960 |
So big picture, transfer liabilities into the estate of the sick spouse, transfer assets 00:39:09.680 |
Hopefully you've avoided debt in the first place. 00:39:12.780 |
If you're in a strong financial position, don't go out and just start racking up debts. 00:39:17.260 |
That's not a good plan and you put yourself in legal jeopardy, especially if you've done 00:39:20.760 |
it intentionally with an intent to defraud the insurance company or the financing company. 00:39:27.720 |
But if you're already in a difficult situation, try to protect yourself as much as possible. 00:39:32.040 |
Second, try to move your debt from any kind of secured debt to unsecured debt. 00:39:38.960 |
If my wife and I own a car and I know that I'm going to die and we owe $10,000 on the 00:39:43.960 |
car, I'm going to try to move $10,000 of car debt off of the car onto a credit card, which 00:39:52.020 |
is an unsecured debt, so that at least my wife will have the car and not worry about 00:40:00.120 |
If it were feasible with a mortgage, example in the state of Florida, where I live, in 00:40:05.680 |
the state of Florida, all of your homestead is protected from the claims of creditors. 00:40:12.460 |
So if I had a $40,000 mortgage balance remaining on my home and if I had $40,000 of credit 00:40:18.400 |
line available on my credit cards, I would do a cash advance and I would take the money 00:40:23.760 |
from my credit cards and use it to pay off my home. 00:40:27.600 |
You need to be careful there because of course that comes with massive difference of fees 00:40:34.200 |
But conceptually, if it's possible to do that, conceptually I want to pay off secured debt. 00:40:41.480 |
My goal is when I die, I want my wife to own as many assets as possible. 00:40:47.360 |
Next, plan your assets so that the debt is sealed off as much as possible. 00:40:54.440 |
Pretend my particular client has a portfolio of rental properties. 00:40:58.920 |
Let's say that you have five houses, six houses, and on your six houses, each of your house 00:41:09.040 |
So you have 50% of the value of the house is mortgaged on each of the properties and 00:41:16.760 |
If I were in the situation, I would try to renegotiate and refinance the houses so I 00:41:23.240 |
could move the debt from each of the houses onto half the portfolio. 00:41:29.360 |
I would rather have three houses owned without mortgages and three houses owned with mortgages 00:41:39.440 |
That way, hopefully my wife will be able to continue paying everything. 00:41:43.480 |
We can pay the mortgages off, she'll continue to own those rentals, et cetera. 00:41:46.760 |
But if we get into trouble and we can't pay them, maybe our finances are drained because 00:41:50.920 |
of our medical condition, if we can't pay those mortgages, I want to make sure that 00:41:55.640 |
if at all possible, we don't lose all the houses. 00:42:00.520 |
So try to seal off your debt as much as possible. 00:42:03.960 |
If your family owns three cars and they all have car payments, consider refinancing them 00:42:11.040 |
So at least two of them are owned without debt. 00:42:24.440 |
Managing debt and assets properly, I think will make a big, big difference. 00:42:29.840 |
Now in thinking further about the situation, I think it's important for us to start and 00:42:34.560 |
to think about what would we need life insurance for? 00:42:38.880 |
What would I do if I were diagnosed and someone says, "Joshua, you have five years to live. 00:42:45.000 |
Could be longer, could be shorter, but we think you're going to have five years to live." 00:42:48.320 |
I would think very, very carefully about how do I provide for the family's needs knowing 00:42:58.200 |
By way of inspiration, I remember when I was a young child, my family visited a family 00:43:06.720 |
By my memory, the family was large, they had a large number of children. 00:43:10.440 |
But I was impressed even as a child that although the father had died early with a house full 00:43:14.880 |
of young children, this family was in a good situation. 00:43:20.680 |
Well, they had moved to a rural area with a low cost of living. 00:43:25.040 |
They had built from scratch their own home, a beautiful log home. 00:43:29.380 |
We were visiting a beautiful log home in Montana. 00:43:38.720 |
And when the father died, the family was able to continue on because they had no debt, they 00:43:45.160 |
had low expenses, and they had a family-run business. 00:43:49.520 |
Even at an early age, I appreciated that testimony. 00:43:52.160 |
That was a father who took his responsibility seriously. 00:43:56.600 |
Life insurance is a wonderful invention, but thoughtful people have been planning for the 00:44:02.020 |
well-being of their families since long before life insurance were ever invented. 00:44:08.580 |
And the way you do it is to go back to those fundamentals. 00:44:12.680 |
What are those things that a family would need? 00:44:19.380 |
The first thing would be obvious expenses like burial costs. 00:44:22.600 |
Well, if I knew that I were going to die, I would go ahead and have my plywood casket 00:44:30.600 |
I would build it myself or have a buddy build it so that when I died, my casket were sitting 00:44:35.360 |
My wife didn't have to deal with going and finding that. 00:44:38.440 |
Archives of Radical Personal Finance, we talked about how to get buried inexpensively. 00:44:42.440 |
If I knew I were going to die, I would figure out where is my body going to be buried, and 00:44:48.120 |
If the laws allow us to just plant me under the oak tree out back, then I'll figure out 00:44:54.760 |
"Hey, you two, when I die, you come over and you dig the grave. 00:44:59.160 |
I'll buy the book on how to care for the body and make sure that there are people who have 00:45:05.440 |
been trained and who have learned how are we going to care for my body when I die so 00:45:08.800 |
that my wife doesn't have to be the one to do that." 00:45:11.560 |
If we get to the funeral, I'm going to plan out the funeral, and I'm going to say, "Here's 00:45:16.880 |
We're not having some ridiculous $10,000 funeral. 00:45:20.480 |
Here's where we're going to do the funeral cheap. 00:45:25.560 |
I would work to arrange those circumstances as much as possible. 00:45:29.200 |
I would do everything possible to minimize burial expenses and minimize emotional trauma 00:45:35.360 |
for my grieving wife so that she doesn't have to face those things. 00:45:39.720 |
And here's where good planning will result in a lower outlay. 00:45:44.720 |
By planning in advance what would be necessary for the funeral, by going ahead and getting 00:45:48.800 |
the coffin, if we buy it at Walmart or have it shipped in or build it out of plywood, 00:45:54.840 |
let's get the coffin squared away, let's get the burial squared away, let's get the people 00:45:58.280 |
assigned, let's figure out what's going to be done so that when the number gets filled 00:46:02.320 |
in on the exact day of my death, then it's just a matter of, "Here's the book. 00:46:10.560 |
That's a big deal because frequently a grieving spouse just lost their husband, just lost 00:46:17.660 |
A grieving spouse will look at that and say, "Well, I've got to provide for this funeral," 00:46:21.440 |
and frequently all of a sudden there's $10,000, $15,000, $20,000, $30,000 out of pocket. 00:46:26.320 |
If you want to go a more traditional route, you tackle it head on, go meet with the person, 00:46:30.800 |
make the burial arrangements, buy the plot, whatever the situation is. 00:46:38.840 |
I don't want people spending $1,000 on a coffin that's going to rot in the ground, build it 00:46:43.560 |
out of plywood, ask a couple of buddies of mine to do that. 00:46:48.180 |
The second thing is what about immediate expenses, immediately following my death? 00:46:55.700 |
Not funeral expenses, but immediate expenses. 00:46:57.820 |
Well, that's where I've talked about assets already. 00:47:00.340 |
I want to make sure that assets are transitioned. 00:47:02.860 |
I'm going to make sure that we have no money in the bank. 00:47:06.100 |
All of the money that was in the bank has been turned into cash and hard assets. 00:47:15.220 |
Well, you can solve the eating problem more directly than just saying, "I need $10,000 00:47:28.500 |
I would go ahead and get busy and say, "Here's how we're going to solve the food problem. 00:47:32.420 |
First thing we're going to do, we're going to store food." 00:47:35.900 |
If I've got five years to prepare, I'd feel a whole lot better knowing that our family 00:47:40.500 |
has a couple of years of food stored up in reserve so that my children aren't going to 00:47:54.100 |
If you get serious about food storage, a couple thousand bucks can buy enough food to keep 00:48:01.460 |
my family going for a few years of just simply stored food. 00:48:06.980 |
You better believe I'm taking my credit card down to Costco. 00:48:16.940 |
I'm going to make sure that my family's need for food is met. 00:48:21.620 |
Now, another context would be food production. 00:48:28.420 |
If I've got small children, how am I going to make sure that my children are going to 00:48:34.620 |
Now, with my family's approach, I would want very much my wife to be able to fulfill the 00:48:41.260 |
vision that we have for our family and not to immediately have to say, "Well, she's just 00:48:47.500 |
got to go and get a 40 or 50 hour a week job." 00:48:51.220 |
I would work really hard to figure out a new living situation that would allow our family 00:48:59.660 |
Children can be very, very helpful in the garden. 00:49:01.580 |
So I get busy and say, "How can we get the garden planted? 00:49:04.020 |
How can we turn our—let's rip out the lawn in the front yard, rip out the lawn in the 00:49:07.300 |
backyard and let's get the garden in so that my family can eat." 00:49:13.560 |
I would change whatever circumstance necessary in order to have shelter. 00:49:18.700 |
If I knew I were probably going to die, let's say that we were living in a fancier house, 00:49:22.340 |
perhaps we have a mortgage, we're living in a fancier house, but we know that there's 00:49:27.980 |
a good chance that that was based upon our higher income with me working and being productive, 00:49:37.020 |
Perhaps we can own that house debt free so that way I can at least know my wife's not 00:49:45.340 |
Now if we don't have money, I'm going to work really diligently to try to figure out what 00:49:48.940 |
relationship capital can we use to make sure that my family's cared for. 00:49:57.280 |
Do my parents have an ability to take us in or to build an addition or put a mobile home 00:50:04.700 |
How are we going to make sure that a shelter is cared for? 00:50:08.180 |
If you look at the problem and you disconnect it from life insurance and you study it in 00:50:12.340 |
the context of shelter, now you have an opportunity to fix it. 00:50:21.380 |
If your problem is shelter and you approach it as shelter saying, "How can I get shelter?" 00:50:26.020 |
then you can start your creative juices going. 00:50:29.100 |
We might just be buying a big fifth wheel trailer and parking it out back of mom and 00:50:32.860 |
dad's house, but at least my wife and children aren't going to be on the street. 00:50:41.220 |
We might be parking a single wide trailer out back somewhere, depending on a friend 00:50:47.120 |
or family member who has some rural acreage, but at least I can plan for shelter. 00:50:58.660 |
One of the major costs that when I do a life insurance analysis that I plan for is education. 00:51:04.180 |
Frequently we sit down with the parents and say, "Well, how much money do you want for 00:51:12.780 |
Do you want to plan for private school, public school, et cetera?" 00:51:15.580 |
And usually there's some amount of money there for education. 00:51:19.020 |
If I don't have the ability to buy life insurance to provide for education, that doesn't automatically 00:51:28.940 |
I've always been inspired by the example of a man named Art Robinson. 00:51:36.740 |
I first found him when I found his website, which is at the, it's called robinsoncurriculum.com. 00:51:44.420 |
It's a really interesting story, but Art Robinson, he and his wife are both research scientists, 00:51:54.940 |
He researches a bunch of things, especially relating to blood and a couple of other things, 00:52:00.060 |
nuclear stuff beyond my scientific knowledge. 00:52:03.620 |
But he and his wife had a large family, six children. 00:52:07.360 |
And when their youngest child was a baby, his wife contracted a very strange illness 00:52:14.900 |
and died within something like 24 or 48 hours, leaving him as a surviving widower with six 00:52:25.340 |
They had been homeschooling their children, and that was very important to them in terms 00:52:29.540 |
of the educational heritage and the family values that they were seeking to instill in 00:52:35.220 |
And so here he is as a research scientist, a busy research scientist, unexpectedly, completely 00:52:41.080 |
out of the blue with no time to transition, facing six small children trying to figure 00:52:50.100 |
Well, one of the things that he did, he was blessed by his wife's foresight and planning 00:52:56.440 |
with regard to their children's homeschool curriculum. 00:53:00.700 |
She had worked for years on developing and planning ahead with homeschool materials. 00:53:05.600 |
So when she died, his wife, her name was Laura Lee, when she died, his wife, Laura Lee, left 00:53:10.640 |
behind multiple filing cabinets with all of the materials, all of the books, all of the 00:53:16.720 |
curriculum prepared for a complete K through 12 education. 00:53:22.720 |
What he did was he moved his desk into his children's schoolroom or moved his children's 00:53:28.000 |
schoolrooms into his research laboratory, and they figured out a way to care for the 00:53:34.560 |
They figured out a schedule where his older children were able to help care for the baby, 00:53:38.920 |
and they continued their educational plan just like they had done from the beginning 00:53:44.640 |
because his wife had worked so hard and had left a legacy in that complete curriculum. 00:53:50.540 |
They later went on, and his children, while they were in their high school years, later 00:53:54.160 |
went on and developed the Robinson curriculum. 00:53:58.260 |
They took all of the materials that their mother had put together. 00:54:01.920 |
They scanned them, collected them, and sold them and created a business out of selling 00:54:08.220 |
those materials to any other homeschool family that was interested, and they sold them as 00:54:17.600 |
For $200, you can purchase from them all in, $200, you can purchase a complete K through 00:54:24.200 |
12 educational curriculum for $200 total, one time, no matter how many children you 00:54:33.240 |
You can buy it, and you print out the materials. 00:54:36.520 |
Some of that curriculum is dated, but you could start, and I would have no fear whatsoever 00:54:42.000 |
if I were dying of saying to my wife, "We're going to buy this curriculum," and the secret 00:54:51.080 |
Now, at least we have the necessary school materials." 00:54:54.160 |
His children, of their six children, had some very impressive educational outcomes. 00:55:01.120 |
All of them are extremely competent with regard to their learning. 00:55:05.160 |
He has continued on to do his scientific research, and they let a lot of things go. 00:55:10.160 |
If you listen to him lecture on it, and he tells a story, it wasn't the most, shall 00:55:16.920 |
They certainly weren't able to do everything the way that he would have been as a couple 00:55:22.280 |
if his wife had survived, but as a single widower with six small children, they were 00:55:27.560 |
able to come out with a loving family, stayed together. 00:55:33.800 |
All of his children were educational stars, and they continued to maintain the family 00:55:41.800 |
If you break it down into education, instead of funding it vaguely with life insurance, 00:55:52.040 |
Now, perhaps homeschooling is your thing, and you would do something like I've described 00:55:56.800 |
Perhaps, if I were in that situation, I would say, "We're going to take our money, and 00:55:59.480 |
we're going to turn it," since if we had debt, and hopefully, again, hopefully we don't 00:56:02.600 |
have debt, but I'm trying to make this show accessible to a listener who is in a tough 00:56:08.360 |
situation, I would say, "How can we make sure that we assemble homeschool materials?" 00:56:12.400 |
At the very least, everyone in the world has 200 bucks to buy the Robinson curriculum, 00:56:17.480 |
a printer, and a stack of paper to print out the materials. 00:56:25.880 |
Or you might go with more than that, but assemble the materials for your children's education. 00:56:30.040 |
Or perhaps another consideration, in a moment, I'm going to talk about income, but another 00:56:34.200 |
consideration would be, you might say, "Well, we can't afford, we don't want to homeschool, 00:56:39.680 |
or homeschooling is just not going to work based upon the capacity of our family. 00:56:43.480 |
But we do need income, but education is serious." 00:56:47.080 |
So I would look at that and say, "How can we get my wife a job at a private school?" 00:56:51.920 |
If I could help my wife to get a job at a private school, then now as a component of 00:56:56.680 |
that overall education, we could now send our children to the private school with a 00:57:06.880 |
Frequently, many private schools will provide for their employees the benefit, instead of 00:57:12.280 |
paying out a higher salary, they'll provide a benefit that a certain number of their children 00:57:15.920 |
can attend that private school without paying or by paying a reduced rate. 00:57:24.480 |
There is a mother that I've known for many years who was left as a single mom, and one 00:57:30.400 |
of the things that I deeply honor her for, her husband left her, divorced her, she was 00:57:36.480 |
left as a single mom with four young girls to care for. 00:57:40.680 |
One of the things that she did is she always worked at a local private school, and she 00:57:47.680 |
She drove school buses, and she worked in the cafeteria. 00:57:53.080 |
She didn't have the intellectual or background to be a high-income earner, but by working 00:58:02.520 |
for the local private school, she was able to earn enough to keep a roof over her girl's 00:58:07.560 |
head, to keep food on the table, and to provide for a very strong private school education 00:58:17.480 |
That would be a way of saying, "How do we solve the education problem without additional 00:58:23.800 |
A similar type of thing can be done with college costs. 00:58:29.040 |
By researching and helping our children prepare to pay for their own cost of college, we can 00:58:40.320 |
The other aspect of life insurance planning is income. 00:58:48.920 |
Usually when doing a life insurance analysis, you simply sit down and say, "Well, we want 00:58:53.040 |
to have $4,000 a month into the family for 20 years, or for the rest of my wife's life," 00:59:00.560 |
"Well, if I can't get life insurance, I've got a problem. 00:59:03.480 |
So I need to figure out what can we do to provide income when I'm gone?" 00:59:10.920 |
This is where we get back to ideas like a family business. 00:59:14.140 |
One of the things I most appreciated about that particular family that we visited when 00:59:21.720 |
I was a child was they had done the hard work of developing a family business where the 00:59:28.720 |
This allowed the surviving wife, the widow, to be able to still be involved with the children 00:59:35.400 |
and for them to keep their family together in a very difficult time. 00:59:41.080 |
So if I'm facing a five-year diagnosis, I'm going to look very diligently to say, "What 00:59:56.080 |
How can we establish a family business that will be enough to provide an income for the 01:00:02.160 |
Now, here's where you would look at the total package. 01:00:04.960 |
Do you look at where somebody is living, what the situation is? 01:00:13.520 |
I use by way of example, let's say that we decided, "Okay, we need to move to a slightly 01:00:18.740 |
We could find potentially some rural area that had enough proximity to hospital and 01:00:23.760 |
medical providers for me to continue my oncology treatments. 01:00:27.600 |
But we could then also look at providing for the family. 01:00:32.200 |
We could have a big garden, we could buy a single-wide trailer or a double-wide trailer. 01:00:37.160 |
We could own it debt-free so that my wife wouldn't have the concern of paying a mortgage. 01:00:42.600 |
So now, what business could we develop in this context based upon the skills and the 01:00:49.820 |
That would be one way of providing for income. 01:00:55.480 |
So I would look at my wife's job skills, my children's job skills, and say, "How can we 01:01:04.240 |
Back to that financial planning, one of the things that I would seriously consider doing 01:01:08.640 |
is I would seriously consider turning money into job skills. 01:01:16.720 |
Let's say that my wife would benefit from an additional certification. 01:01:21.460 |
Maybe she needs to get training in a certain area. 01:01:27.720 |
I'm going to work really hard to take our money, use it to buy the training so that 01:01:32.680 |
we can establish her in a high-income earning career so that when I die, she'll have the 01:01:41.880 |
This is especially important many times for if a father or husband is going to die. 01:01:47.520 |
Frequently, a mom who has given up her income earning outside of the home will be left with 01:01:54.800 |
slightly rusty job skills and a little bit out of step with the job market. 01:02:00.480 |
That can make it hard for a new widow to go into the job market and earn at an appropriate 01:02:06.080 |
rate, especially if you have children, to earn at a rate that makes it worth her leaving 01:02:12.860 |
the children who would really benefit from her presence. 01:02:17.000 |
So if necessary, take the money and use it to buy upgraded job skills, certifications, 01:02:22.880 |
specializations, etc., so that she can earn enough money in order to have a high hourly 01:02:30.080 |
productivity so she can still have time with children. 01:02:33.580 |
This is another similar problem that many time newly divorced mothers face, is that 01:02:39.840 |
their job skills have grown rusty as they've cared for their children. 01:02:46.840 |
And so when their husband leaves them, they're faced with, "Well, what do I do?" 01:02:51.920 |
And sometimes their earning ability is only a very small percentage of their capacity. 01:02:57.880 |
And that can be a real problem, because then that newly single mom has to spend many hours 01:03:02.620 |
per day away from the children, and that would be the most valuable place for her would be 01:03:07.840 |
Well, you can't do without income, but perhaps what can be done is upgrade the hourly earning 01:03:12.720 |
ability with whatever appropriate plan would solve that, so that she can earn sufficient 01:03:18.700 |
amounts of money while being away from the children for a minimal amount of time. 01:03:24.220 |
So with income, income can be solved, or at least improved, in ways that don't require 01:03:40.040 |
And here's where we want to structure things in a way that they're going to be in their 01:03:45.800 |
best...they're going to be done well after I'm gone. 01:03:55.640 |
I've already spoken to mutual funds, investments, being held in creditor-protected accounts. 01:04:02.360 |
There's not a lot of skill related to mutual funds. 01:04:07.000 |
But I would work very diligently with my wife to, especially me, I'd work very diligently 01:04:11.800 |
with my wife to make sure that she has the knowledge that she needs to be a successful 01:04:16.320 |
investor, to make sure that she knows the source of trusted advice, etc. 01:04:21.600 |
With other investments, my client that I was working with was a heavy real estate investor, 01:04:26.600 |
and one of the pieces of advice that I gave to him was it's very important that his wife 01:04:31.400 |
is very involved in that real estate business. 01:04:34.760 |
Usually there will be one spouse or another who is involved heavily in a business and 01:04:39.880 |
the other spouse is not so heavily involved in the business. 01:04:43.160 |
That can work okay as long as the spouse who's involved has taken the time to put together 01:04:49.480 |
a manual of how the business operates, some instructions, etc. so that if they died unexpectedly 01:04:55.360 |
that their surviving spouse would be able to continue on. 01:04:58.820 |
But if you know that you're probably going to die in a few years, then you really got 01:05:03.800 |
to roll up your sleeves and make sure that your spouse is fully involved in the investments. 01:05:10.320 |
I would very diligently make sure that my wife was fully involved and actively managing 01:05:16.600 |
our real estate portfolio, actively managing our business, etc. 01:05:21.600 |
You've got to make sure that she is knowledgeable about every aspect of the money and that her 01:05:31.600 |
One of the most vulnerable places that a woman can be in, especially women, is if they're 01:05:40.680 |
And frequently a newly widowed woman is caught unaware and caught with poor planning. 01:05:48.160 |
And because her husband handled everything, she doesn't know where everything is, how 01:05:53.960 |
I think that's a major dereliction of duty for husbands. 01:05:57.820 |
If you are a husband, do not leave your wife in that situation. 01:06:07.560 |
Make sure that you've helped her and taught her to know what's going on so that if you 01:06:12.340 |
are unexpectedly removed from the scene that she's not left not knowing what to do. 01:06:21.000 |
And here, I think fundamentally when you look at the problem of how to solve these issues, 01:06:30.340 |
I think you have to go back and look at relationships. 01:06:36.260 |
As I thought through this, I realized that I personally would have no fear of being in 01:06:46.340 |
I would have no fear of if I couldn't, didn't have life insurance, I were diagnosed with 01:06:50.460 |
a terminal disease, I would have no fear of my wife and children not being okay. 01:06:57.940 |
Even independent of any of these things I've described. 01:07:02.120 |
And one of the big reasons is because of the strong family, community, and church relationships 01:07:12.300 |
I would have no fear about my wife being put out on the street because I know that I have 01:07:18.540 |
many people in my life who would immediately say, "Come and live with us." 01:07:24.100 |
There are many people in my life who would say, "Come, I'll buy a single wide trailer 01:07:27.780 |
and you can be there so you can have your own place with the children and we'll park 01:07:33.260 |
There are many people in my life who would say, "Come, I'll tell you what, here's an 01:07:37.220 |
I know you can't afford all of that rent, but I'll subsidize it by 50% and I'll do that 01:07:44.420 |
That all comes back to relationships, strong family relationships and strong community 01:07:52.940 |
At its core, when there's a strong community, a strong family of people, these financial 01:08:04.820 |
But with the modern US American society, these financial things are more necessary because 01:08:12.700 |
Let me give two examples to drive this point home. 01:08:17.500 |
I have an interest in understanding the Amish community. 01:08:20.980 |
I've never lived in Amish country and I always thought it'd be fascinating to drive through 01:08:25.540 |
But I've had an interest in studying how the Amish handle finances. 01:08:30.940 |
First I respect and appreciate them, that they were able to get out of the debacle of 01:08:34.360 |
Social Security and unfortunately, Protestant Christians were not, which I have a deep grudge 01:08:41.700 |
against Protestant Christians for not towing the line on that one. 01:08:46.500 |
But the reason that the Amish have been able to stay out of things, Amish not participating 01:08:50.360 |
in financialized insurance programs, not participating in Social Security, even not participating 01:08:55.500 |
in much of the commercial credit markets, is because of the strength of the community. 01:09:04.940 |
I have more confidence in the strength of my local community than I do in any financial 01:09:12.740 |
But that community has to be developed and exercised in advance. 01:09:17.700 |
There are communities in which if you're going to have a house raising or a barn raising, 01:09:22.520 |
you could have dozens and dozens of people there. 01:09:26.520 |
But yet the lives that many of us lead in the modern society would be that if a house 01:09:31.200 |
were needed or a barn were needed, many families couldn't get a single person to show up. 01:09:42.660 |
So you're familiar with the traditional barn raising. 01:09:44.640 |
This was in the old, in the more agrarian society. 01:09:48.160 |
If somebody was going to have a barn, there would be a community event. 01:09:51.920 |
And so the landowner would prepare ahead, they would put together the materials, the 01:09:57.760 |
raw materials, and then they would schedule it and all the community would come together. 01:10:02.200 |
And then they would do the heavy work of raising the rafters, raising the walls. 01:10:06.640 |
All that would be done together because you need a lot of manpower. 01:10:08.480 |
And then traditionally it would be a big party at night, perhaps a dance in the barn or whatever 01:10:19.640 |
I realized that is one of the biggest weaknesses in our modern era. 01:10:26.280 |
If our house burns down, we don't have anyone to call except an insurance company. 01:10:32.840 |
And they might send a check, hopefully, and we might be able to buy those things. 01:10:39.780 |
But there are communities where if the house burns down, everybody comes together. 01:10:45.040 |
Some people load up a truck, bring a bunch of wood. 01:10:47.440 |
People have knowledge, they have skill, everyone gets together and a week later the house is 01:10:54.260 |
If you have the strength of relationships and community, strong families, I say large 01:10:59.920 |
families, strong churches, strong community organizations where people are built together, 01:11:06.600 |
you can have a high degree of confidence in this. 01:11:09.600 |
The story that happened this last year that I was aware of, in my mind it shows the ideal 01:11:18.880 |
There was a man this last year who unexpectedly drowned. 01:11:24.660 |
And this man and his wife, they had adopted, I think it was a total of seven young children. 01:11:31.980 |
So unlike a family that may have by natural birth seven children where the children are 01:11:36.620 |
split out in ages, they had adopted seven young children. 01:11:40.460 |
That's a heavy burden, heavy burden on a mother and father. 01:11:44.140 |
The man unexpectedly drowned while they were at the lake and it was totally out of the 01:11:51.500 |
blue and the family didn't have life insurance for whatever reason. 01:11:55.700 |
And so here you have a young widow, a mother of seven small adopted children who've just 01:12:03.700 |
Take a moment and imagine the trauma on a young adopted child, the potential trauma 01:12:10.980 |
of previously being orphaned through whatever circumstances and then being adopted into 01:12:19.600 |
a loving family and now all of a sudden losing one of those adoptive parents. 01:12:26.620 |
Sorry, but that is a situation that is a big, big deal for those seven children. 01:12:34.060 |
And what I was so gratified to hear was in the circumstance Juan, the community, took 01:12:37.540 |
up collections of financial donations, which was of course helpful. 01:12:43.400 |
But there was in that community somebody who went ahead and provided for that lady. 01:12:50.500 |
He had acreage, he had land, and he established on his house, I think they brought in a double 01:12:54.540 |
wide trailer or something like that, and he bought a double wide trailer. 01:12:58.380 |
He put it on his rural property so that that mom would be able to care for those seven 01:13:04.180 |
children and not have to immediately put them into an institution. 01:13:08.980 |
If you want to talk about using your money to make an impact, that's the way to do it. 01:13:13.580 |
If you want to talk about the value of community, that's a pretty good example. 01:13:18.420 |
So make sure if you don't have that in your life, get busy and find it or build it. 01:13:26.100 |
Because at the end of the day, financial institutions are great. 01:13:28.500 |
I've tried to talk about how to use them, but relationships and community, strong families, 01:13:37.940 |
strong communities, strong churches, strong networks, that's ultimately what gets you 01:13:47.340 |
I hope that's encouraging to you, and I hope you are able to use that and to be the catalyst 01:13:57.820 |
I hope that this show serves you and serves somebody who's in this difficult situation. 01:14:04.660 |
If you understand the things that I talked about in the beginning, especially if you 01:14:08.620 |
understand things like ownership, use the financial system to your benefit. 01:14:15.280 |
If you've gotten a diagnosis, like I said, if I got a diagnosis, I would do every one 01:14:21.460 |
I would make sure that we took, in the time that I had that I was alive, I'd make sure 01:14:25.300 |
that we took every bit of money, and I would make sure that I very carefully structured 01:14:33.980 |
And I would take the money and I would use the money to buy those things that will provide 01:14:44.900 |
And even, there may be other circumstances in which you can do it, but just consider 01:14:50.500 |
You can buy educational materials, and if you are in a situation, you're going to leave, 01:14:56.420 |
if I were going to leave my wife and children behind, it's pretty hard for me to imagine, 01:15:03.300 |
let's say that I had started off deeply in debt and I had problems because I wanted this 01:15:10.460 |
It's easy to imagine the creditor coming and hooking up the car out front. 01:15:16.380 |
It's easy to imagine being sued by a credit card company. 01:15:20.440 |
But if you pay off the note on the car, the car will sit there. 01:15:26.220 |
I can't imagine the credit card company sending the police out and searching through our file 01:15:31.580 |
cabinet of educational materials and saying, "We're going to take these educational materials." 01:15:36.900 |
They're not going to go and search through the pantry and say, "We're going to take all 01:15:40.220 |
this food that's going to feed your family for the next few years." 01:15:43.140 |
They're not going to come through the house and find that we bought a commercial, we bought 01:15:50.540 |
some homemade bread from somebody recently who had put this very nice cottage industry 01:15:56.060 |
They're not going to find the commercial quality bread machine that we've built for a family 01:16:01.060 |
business that my wife and our children could do and sell artisan bread in the local community. 01:16:07.260 |
So that's the way that you need to think, is you need to think if you're in a situation 01:16:10.340 |
like this, how do I use the financial system to provide those other things for my family? 01:16:17.420 |
In closing, make sure this doesn't happen to you. 01:16:20.900 |
I repeat, make sure this doesn't happen to you. 01:16:26.140 |
If you're already in this situation, hopefully these ideas will help you or will help you 01:16:33.860 |
One of my missions is I want to equip you so that you can go and help the people who 01:16:39.060 |
are never going to sit and listen to radical personal finance. 01:16:42.740 |
Only a tiny, tiny percentage of people will go and sit and listen to something like this. 01:16:48.860 |
I probably lost with talking about financial products and annuities and single premium 01:16:53.700 |
median annuities and variable subaccounts and annuity units, I lost the vast majority 01:17:01.540 |
But my friend, there are people that are struggling and that are hurting, and you can go and help 01:17:07.940 |
You can take this knowledge and go and sit at their kitchen table and help them. 01:17:12.380 |
There are a lot of people who will never sit down and listen to my show, but you're listening 01:17:19.300 |
to my show, and those same people who would never sit down and listen to my show, they 01:17:26.140 |
So I hope these ideas serve you so that you can go and help somebody who's in a situation 01:17:37.380 |
You've honored me with your time and attention, and I'm grateful for that. 01:17:41.620 |
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and techniques and tools that will help move you towards your goals. 01:17:53.740 |
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others is one of the most effective ways for you to learn and for you to cement your learning. 01:18:44.260 |
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