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Today on Radical Personal Finance, a 22-year-old new college graduate writes in asking for 00:00:05.940 |
advice on how she can set up a plan for financial independence. 00:00:10.780 |
Keelan writes in and says, "I'm a 22-year-old recent college graduate. 00:00:13.940 |
I've since landed a job and have been working for about four months now. 00:00:21.980 |
I am extremely fortunate to have no debt from college. 00:00:26.340 |
I work a full-time job and save virtually all of that money. 00:00:30.540 |
I work a part-time job and use that money as my spending money. 00:00:34.700 |
Essentially, I am blessed to have a blank slate coming out of college. 00:00:38.460 |
The downside of my equation is that my full-time job does not pay particularly well, perhaps 00:00:42.940 |
about $31,000 a year, and I live in an area with a high cost of living, northern Virginia. 00:00:49.020 |
Do you have any advice for someone like me who is just getting started in the real world 00:00:53.620 |
and wants to begin a path to financial independence?" 00:00:56.980 |
I do realize that a huge step would be to find a better paying job. 00:01:01.820 |
However, what would you suggest that I do in the meantime to add additional income and 00:01:08.660 |
My goal is not to make this all about making more money, but rather to position myself 00:01:13.460 |
in such a way that I can live the life the way that I want. 00:01:17.300 |
Also, I want to be in a position where I can easily provide advice and assistance to those 00:01:24.980 |
Thanks in advance for any advice that you can provide. 00:01:28.060 |
Well, Keelan, let's start with the fact that you are in a position already to provide advice 00:01:33.460 |
and assistance to those who are less well-off, which is probably about 98, 95 plus percent 00:01:41.340 |
And I want you to approach your life recognizing that. 00:01:44.180 |
You are in a remarkable situation and you've done a remarkable job of establishing yourself 00:01:53.500 |
So let's talk about some ideas and suggestions that I think will help you. 00:01:58.100 |
First we need to begin with financial independence. 00:02:00.300 |
I'll give you some ideas about how to integrate goals for financial independence with other 00:02:05.580 |
And then I'll give you some at the end of the show, some specific suggestions for steps 00:02:11.260 |
that you can take to move you toward financial independence. 00:02:14.060 |
First, why do you want to be financially independent? 00:02:18.620 |
It's a big question and many people jump into it without actually thinking about it. 00:02:26.620 |
Why do you want to be financially independent? 00:02:32.500 |
What is it about the concept of financial independence that you find attractive? 00:02:38.660 |
Why do you want to be financially independent? 00:02:42.580 |
You say right here, my goal is not to make this all about making more money. 00:02:45.900 |
Well, if the goal is not about making more money, that's pretty much what financial independence 00:02:52.500 |
So if it's not all about making and accumulating more money, then why do you want to be financially 00:03:00.900 |
My guess is if you spend some time thinking about this, there will be a few things that 00:03:09.380 |
One reason would be a sense of control, a sense of autonomy, a sense of personal direction 00:03:18.900 |
Another aspect would be the meaning of your day-to-day existence, the ability to do things 00:03:24.440 |
that you think are important because you think they're important. 00:03:29.180 |
These are the common themes of why people want to be financially independent. 00:03:33.220 |
So it's important to recognize that financial independence is not going to make you happy. 00:03:40.300 |
Financial independence is not really going to do much to change your life unless you're 00:03:45.940 |
doing something before financial independence that you don't want to be doing and you're 00:03:51.960 |
trying to work towards something after financial independence that you do. 00:03:55.240 |
In which case, why wait for financial independence to do that? 00:04:01.500 |
How is financial independence and the quality of your life, how do these things work together? 00:04:11.320 |
So first let's talk about what you can do that's outside of financial independence and 00:04:17.420 |
then I'll give you some specific steps that will move you toward financial independence. 00:04:24.100 |
But let's put this in the right order because you don't need to be financially independent 00:04:28.900 |
You don't need to have a million dollars in the bank to be able to do what you want. 00:04:32.840 |
In fact, there are some very simple steps that you can make that will start to build 00:04:39.100 |
a life that will give you these things while you also work on higher pay, saving money, 00:04:49.700 |
Number one, the biggest thing that will determine your level of happiness is the quality of 00:04:59.500 |
These are also at a young age some of the most important decisions that you'll make. 00:05:05.460 |
The first obvious example is the relationship with your immediate family, you're living 00:05:09.940 |
The quality of that relationship will have a big impact on the quality of your life. 00:05:20.720 |
The biggest relationship that will chart the course for the happiness that you experience 00:05:25.380 |
in life and for your freedom and for your independence is who you choose to marry, your 00:05:33.460 |
The person that you choose to marry will make a bigger impact on your happiness than almost 00:05:45.420 |
So before you start thinking about money, you should spend a significant amount of time 00:05:51.500 |
thinking about how will you meet and marry the husband of your dreams. 00:05:58.780 |
Married people are richer than non-married people and married people are happier than 00:06:04.860 |
So you should be spending time thinking about how to become happily married. 00:06:12.420 |
There are two things that you have to consider in order to be able to do this. 00:06:15.920 |
The first most important thing is to become the kind of person that would attract the 00:06:26.380 |
That's the fundamental way that you'll be able to attract to yourself an appropriate 00:06:36.160 |
You have to become the kind of person that will attract the type of man that you want 00:06:39.720 |
to marry and then you have to be in the types of places that that man would be so that you 00:06:47.200 |
Now most people don't start giving financial advice by giving marriage advice and that's 00:06:50.400 |
where I think most of financial advice is pretty wrong headed. 00:06:54.980 |
If you have done like I did and you've worked in the context of financial planning, you'll 00:06:59.360 |
quickly realize that money is often not at the core of many problems. 00:07:08.120 |
Relationship problems are often at the core of life problems. 00:07:12.660 |
And so don't start with focusing on money, start by focusing on quality relationships. 00:07:20.120 |
If you want to set out a plan for financial independence, make sure that you don't run 00:07:25.960 |
past the importance of relationships too quickly. 00:07:30.600 |
One thing that should be obvious for you is if you are going to become the kind of person 00:07:34.960 |
that would attract the type of man that you would want to marry, if you're going to do 00:07:39.120 |
it, you have to be able to identify the type of man that you would want to marry. 00:07:45.780 |
And so you should spend time thinking about that now. 00:07:49.320 |
You should spend time making a list of the character qualities and the attributes of 00:08:01.480 |
Unfortunately the way that most people, especially most 22-year-olds, approach this problem is 00:08:10.320 |
They approach their life and say, "Well, I'll just fall in love at some point in time." 00:08:15.920 |
What they do is they experience an intense feeling of emotional attraction to another 00:08:21.720 |
person, but there's no underlying substance to the relationship. 00:08:29.280 |
And yes, in every sociological study I've ever seen, married people are happier than 00:08:35.220 |
unmarried people, but common life experience would indicate that there are a lot of people 00:08:43.320 |
And so the way that you avoid being unhappily married is, one way, is by being very clear 00:08:50.240 |
on the type of person that you would like to be married to. 00:08:55.320 |
That will then drive you to say, "What type of person do I need to be in order to be attractive 00:09:02.520 |
to the type of person that I want to be married to?" 00:09:07.320 |
Much more important than saving money, much more important than putting money in a Roth 00:09:10.520 |
IRA, and much more valuable to your financial independence. 00:09:16.320 |
Should I do this now or should I do this later?" 00:09:22.920 |
Don't get married too soon, but when you find the person that you want to marry, marry right 00:09:31.800 |
You definitely don't want to run into a relationship that will affect the rest of your life very 00:09:37.160 |
quickly, without forethought, without planning, without consideration. 00:09:41.680 |
But on the flip side, there's no reason to defer for many years down the road. 00:09:47.800 |
Especially there's no financial reason to defer for many years down the road. 00:09:51.560 |
Married people are much better off financially for many reasons. 00:09:55.680 |
They earn more money and they have more money, but just the simplest obvious reason is they 00:10:00.040 |
can pool their talents and their resources and their incomes and their expenses can go 00:10:07.240 |
It's not double to put two people together in a household. 00:10:11.200 |
And so you have measurably better economic potential as a married couple than you do 00:10:19.180 |
So you want to make sure that you're prepared for that. 00:10:23.080 |
So ask yourself how you can build and develop and maintain quality relationships, starting 00:10:28.960 |
first with your family members that are nearby already, and then also thinking very carefully 00:10:35.000 |
about how you will meet and marry the husband of your dreams. 00:10:39.640 |
Number two, you should carefully and intentionally choose your geography. 00:10:47.040 |
Before you think about saving money, choose where you're going to live. 00:10:51.560 |
Before you think about becoming financially independent, choose where you want to be. 00:10:56.600 |
Because your decisions surrounding geography will drive the lifestyle that you live. 00:11:07.680 |
If you want to be in a big city, go to a big city now. 00:11:11.980 |
If you want to be in a country, in the country, consider going to the country now. 00:11:15.040 |
If you want to be in the mountains, go to the mountains now. 00:11:17.720 |
If you want to go to the ocean, go to the ocean now. 00:11:21.120 |
This is the time in which it will be cheaper and easier and simpler for you to establish 00:11:26.700 |
yourself in a geographic location than ever it will be in the future. 00:11:34.840 |
This will have to do with your career, which we'll talk about in a moment. 00:11:37.480 |
It'll also have to do with simple things like the tax system under which you live, the economic 00:11:44.960 |
And it will relate heavily to thing number one, who are you going to marry and how are 00:11:50.980 |
If you marry and meet and marry somebody in the town that you're in now and you want to 00:11:53.920 |
be in a different town, that could very quickly bring in a source of stress. 00:11:59.480 |
If you want to live in a different town, you might consider going to a different town before 00:12:08.240 |
Choose the geography that you're going to live in and design it around the lifestyle 00:12:15.320 |
If you know anything that's important to you in the lifestyle that you desire to live, 00:12:22.540 |
choose it now and move there because the place that you live will make a big impact on your 00:12:39.580 |
First career choice, your careful choosing, selection and design of an appropriate career 00:12:48.420 |
will make a huge impact on your level of happiness. 00:12:53.500 |
I don't know which of these three things is more important than another. 00:12:56.980 |
I don't know if your career makes a bigger difference in your level of happiness and 00:13:03.100 |
your level of satisfaction than does the person that you're married to. 00:13:06.420 |
I don't know if your geography makes a bigger difference than your career. 00:13:11.100 |
I just know that all three of these are very important factors. 00:13:14.800 |
If I were to rank them, I would say that probably the number one most important thing is the 00:13:19.520 |
quality of your relationship, especially your marriage relationship. 00:13:24.020 |
Number two is the appropriateness of your career for yourself and number three would 00:13:33.140 |
But I think that you should choose geography in some ways before you choose career because 00:13:37.540 |
there are many careers that you can do in certain types of geography that are related. 00:13:44.180 |
But if you choose a career first and then you try to choose geography, that career may 00:13:52.540 |
Here you should spend time very carefully reviewing your skills, your talents. 00:14:00.260 |
Consider if that is something that you want to continue working in. 00:14:05.860 |
Do some personality profiles, etc. and carefully design a career choice that you think will 00:14:12.380 |
be helpful for you, that will be appropriate to you in the long term based upon the lifestyle 00:14:20.900 |
Now when you're doing this, think about a few things. 00:14:23.380 |
Think about the economic future of the geography that you've chosen. 00:14:30.340 |
It doesn't mean you can't live a great life there. 00:14:32.700 |
It just means that you might not choose a local place, a local career, a career that 00:14:39.900 |
I personally would be very happy to live in a place that had a declining economy because 00:14:44.460 |
my income can be earned from a place that doesn't have a declining economy. 00:14:49.020 |
And so I could get a very great value on my money by earning money from a place where 00:14:54.020 |
there's lots of people to send it to me and spending it in a place where my dollars go 00:14:57.100 |
farther I can set up a really nice arbitrage situation for myself. 00:15:02.700 |
On the flip side, if you're in a location that has a growing economy, look at the local 00:15:07.820 |
economic trends and try to understand how those will impact your potential career choices. 00:15:12.480 |
There's not just one career choice that's appropriate for you. 00:15:15.300 |
Rather, you have skills, talents, and abilities that could be translated and applied to various 00:15:23.340 |
So think carefully and study carefully your career choice. 00:15:27.540 |
Think carefully and study carefully how your career choice will integrate with your future, 00:15:33.980 |
with your future plans, with your future goals, with your future dreams. 00:15:39.260 |
Think carefully about how the work that you've chosen to do will integrate into your future 00:15:45.980 |
Don't spend time building a career that you'll want to leave or change in the future if you 00:15:54.220 |
could take that time building a career that you won't want to leave or change in the future 00:16:07.000 |
Those are some of the most important things that you can do to really build a life that 00:16:15.360 |
will develop a system of independence, that will build a life that will be happy, that 00:16:20.740 |
will build a life that will give you the feelings of financial independence and will cause everything 00:16:26.980 |
If you're in a career that's well-suited for you, it won't be hard for you to be really 00:16:30.020 |
good at it, which means that your income will automatically go up. 00:16:34.140 |
And because your income is automatically going up, you can save a lot more money and become 00:16:41.820 |
If you've chosen your husband very, very carefully and you've figured out what values and attributes 00:16:47.860 |
are important to you and you meet somebody at the local investment club or in the local 00:16:53.180 |
real estate club or in the local business club versus at the local bar or at the local 00:16:59.260 |
place that attracts people who are not forward-thinking, the local, I don't know, video game hangout 00:17:03.900 |
or whatever the version of that is in your local area, you're much more likely to meet 00:17:08.800 |
somebody who will share your financial goals. 00:17:11.740 |
And now when you come together, instead of looking at things and fighting against each 00:17:16.100 |
other, you'll be able to build a future together. 00:17:20.700 |
So do you see how these things are integrated? 00:17:24.620 |
You can't approach financial problems and just say, "What's the one, two, three? 00:17:35.200 |
They're not primary, but those things I laid out for you are primary. 00:17:45.040 |
You are in a phenomenal position of being a college graduate who is debt-free. 00:17:54.760 |
Commit yourself to never borrowing money, any time, for any reason. 00:18:05.720 |
If you commit yourself to never borrowing money at any time for any reason, you will 00:18:11.040 |
be able to have freedom and independence for the rest of your life, no matter the situation 00:18:20.420 |
Is this guaranteed to be the most optimal financial outcome? 00:18:27.520 |
I think you can make a compelling financial case that sometimes borrowing money will lead 00:18:39.880 |
But would this type of commitment lead to your being more financially independent? 00:18:48.400 |
Here I think you can make a very strong case that by making this personal commitment to 00:18:53.720 |
never borrow money, any time, for any reason, you always have your liberty. 00:19:03.680 |
You haven't mortgaged your future to pay for your present. 00:19:07.700 |
And if you're interested in liberty and financial independence, I think this is a personal financial 00:19:17.560 |
Here's another simple commitment that would lead to financial independence. 00:19:26.520 |
Make sure that you never spend more than half your income. 00:19:31.820 |
And maintain that commitment until you are financially independent. 00:19:37.880 |
I think that a good target number for you to shoot for is to always make sure that 50% 00:19:43.160 |
of your income is invested for your financial independence. 00:19:50.800 |
You will have expenditures that you will want to make during this phase of your life. 00:19:55.460 |
And you need to be careful not to try to live too frugally. 00:19:59.640 |
Now, of course, I recognize that and I honor you for working a full-time job, saving all 00:20:06.000 |
that money, working an extra part-time job for your spending. 00:20:09.900 |
But this time of your life is not only something that should be spent on work, work, work all 00:20:19.880 |
These are experiences that will be very valuable for you to accumulate during this time of 00:20:25.520 |
And so how can you figure out how to set a budget towards those things? 00:20:30.600 |
Well, I think it makes a lot of sense to just simply make sure that you never spend more 00:20:36.280 |
If you want to set a different number because you have different goals, if you want to say, 00:20:39.400 |
"I want to spend 30% of my income or 70% of my income," that's fine. 00:20:49.640 |
50% is what goes for long-term financial independence. 00:20:53.560 |
You can still save money out of the lower 50%, but that money could be spent on experiences 00:21:03.640 |
22 years old is a great time to set aside money and consider traveling if that's something 00:21:10.360 |
Consider investing into a hobby or skills that are valuable for you. 00:21:15.260 |
You have a huge amount of personal freedom and autonomy at this stage of life. 00:21:22.080 |
And it's important to make sure that you maximize that. 00:21:31.680 |
You don't know if you have tomorrow, so live in today while also recognizing that it's 00:21:40.720 |
There are a lot of things that you can do during this phase of your life that will go 00:21:43.780 |
with you for the rest of your life and you'll be very happy with them. 00:21:51.240 |
Don't make the mistake of putting everything on tomorrow. 00:21:56.840 |
Also don't make the mistake of spending everything today. 00:22:03.420 |
And I think a really great way to approach that is always set aside 50% of your income 00:22:09.220 |
for financial independence until you're financially independent. 00:22:15.340 |
You might choose to save, you might choose to spend. 00:22:18.940 |
But I think that's a really good way to approach it and a really useful balance. 00:22:25.780 |
First, before you participate in anything such as investing in your 401k at work or 00:22:34.620 |
going on any fun trips or anything, I recommend to you that you work really hard to set aside 00:22:41.300 |
$10,000 in savings before you do anything else just as a good round number. 00:22:47.980 |
It's just a good round number that I think buys you a substantial amount of freedom. 00:22:51.860 |
And I would love to see everybody have $10,000 sitting in a savings account before they moved 00:23:01.500 |
Tactically after that, if your employer retirement accounts give you an employer match, go ahead 00:23:07.420 |
and consider signing up for that and at least take advantage of the match. 00:23:11.420 |
And then focus on setting aside something like $100,000 in savings. 00:23:17.260 |
Now how you allocate this money and how you divvy it up, that's up to you. 00:23:24.300 |
Is this all going to go for your long-term financial independence? 00:23:31.640 |
But I think it's really valuable for young people as quickly as possible to get their 00:23:36.900 |
hand on at least several tens of thousands of dollars and $100,000 is a great round number. 00:23:43.520 |
During this phase of your life, it's very possible, very probable that if your life 00:23:48.660 |
will look anything like many of your peers, you will be in a situation to where you'll 00:23:54.320 |
have many expenses that you'd like to make at an early age. 00:23:59.020 |
You might find yourself wanting to buy a reliable car. 00:24:03.120 |
You might find yourself wanting to make sure that you save for have a nice wedding if that's 00:24:12.320 |
Set up a life that will establish you in the type of lifestyle that you want to live in. 00:24:19.520 |
And money is very valuable in these early years. 00:24:23.200 |
Liquid money, not money that gets wasted, not money that gets spent, but liquid money. 00:24:28.420 |
And it will give you, if you can save several tens of thousands of dollars, hopefully as 00:24:31.880 |
much as $100,000 in a non-retirement account, that will give you the ability to follow your 00:24:42.700 |
I have yet to find anybody who can prove me wrong in this or who's brought evidence that's 00:24:49.000 |
When I look at almost every situation where somebody's stuck, when I look at every situation 00:24:54.600 |
when somebody's unhappy and their finances are contributing to that, I can't find a situation 00:25:01.800 |
that would not be solved by keeping $100,000 in the bank. 00:25:12.440 |
And when you recognize that the true benefit that you're trying to get is this sense of 00:25:19.720 |
independence, not the money, it's what the money buys for you. 00:25:29.040 |
Money just helps you get there, it's the cause. 00:25:34.360 |
I think this is well worth considering in terms of some simple financial steps. 00:25:40.840 |
After that point in time, you would need more specifics to figure out your plan. 00:25:46.440 |
You would need to figure out, are you tuned in an entrepreneurial bent? 00:25:51.080 |
Is your career high-powered and worth pursuing further? 00:25:54.500 |
Is there a particular type of investment that's well-suited for you? 00:25:58.440 |
From there, you need to get much more personal. 00:26:00.000 |
I can't answer it in the context of an email like this. 00:26:03.280 |
But if you go through these things, I think that you will have a good foundation for financial 00:26:11.240 |
I hope you see the tension that I'm trying to bring here between life decisions and financial 00:26:24.080 |
As I said in review, number one, biggest impact, relationships. 00:26:31.240 |
Good relationships with your family that you live with now and a great relationship with 00:26:38.120 |
Give serious time and consideration to how you're going to arrange those circumstances. 00:26:46.260 |
If you establish those three things well, you almost don't need the money and the money 00:26:53.000 |
Financially, never borrow money at any time for any reason and you'll maintain your independence 00:27:03.000 |
Always save half your income for financial independence until you become financially 00:27:08.160 |
And any kind of spending and saving that you want to do, make it on the other half. 00:27:14.400 |
Consider setting aside cash first, 10 grand in the bank, move on to fund employer retirement 00:27:19.920 |
accounts, etc. with the goal of getting to $100,000 as quickly as possible to buy you 00:27:24.560 |
freedom, no matter the life circumstance that comes at you. 00:27:30.560 |
Don't forget to take care of basic insurance. 00:27:34.120 |
As a young single woman, you should make sure that you have good comprehensive disability 00:27:38.260 |
income insurance to protect your income, which next to your health is your most valuable 00:27:43.780 |
And I would encourage you, continue taking advantage of the situation that you're in 00:27:50.600 |
If you have good family relationships, enjoy the situation, enjoy those years with your 00:27:56.600 |
parents until or unless you decide to move out. 00:28:00.240 |
Take advantage of the financial savings and contribute to their household. 00:28:06.880 |
There is this massive social stigma against living with parents. 00:28:16.900 |
Now young men and women should be responsible. 00:28:20.760 |
And there's a big difference between being a mooch and consuming everything from your 00:28:28.840 |
parents and not contributing to the household versus being a responsible member of the household. 00:28:38.920 |
But your parents' great joy is to contribute to your life and to help you. 00:28:43.160 |
So if that means that staying there, if they allow you to live there rent free, as long 00:28:47.040 |
as you're saving and you're not squandering all of your money, that's good for your character. 00:28:51.560 |
The most important lesson if your parents were writing me an email that I would be telling 00:28:54.500 |
them is to say, "Make sure that your son or daughter is responsible, that they're not 00:29:03.840 |
And so your parents can look at that and recognize that you have the character that's necessary. 00:29:09.040 |
Now take advantage of those family relationships. 00:29:13.200 |
This can be a very special time in your relationship with your parents where you can really build 00:29:26.560 |
I'm convinced people who live with other people, I don't have any sociological data for this 00:29:30.040 |
like I do for other claims, but I'm personally persuaded that people who live with other 00:29:35.340 |
people are generally happier just because most of us get lonely if we live by ourself. 00:29:40.660 |
Who wants to live in an empty apartment by yourself just so that you can impress the 00:29:48.300 |
I'd much rather live with my parents, period. 00:29:52.460 |
As long as I'm not being a mooch and a leech. 00:29:58.380 |
I encourage you, save your money, continue living with them and build those family relationships 00:30:03.940 |
Until or unless there's something compelling that takes you beyond that, I think that's 00:30:10.780 |
And make sure that you use this time period to invest in some of the intellectual pursuits, 00:30:20.240 |
some of the recreational pursuits, some of the deep things that will be more difficult 00:30:31.280 |
If you I don't know what your college degree was in, but I didn't spend as much time in 00:30:35.760 |
college reading the types of books I wish I'd read. 00:30:39.820 |
Take the time now to work on your personal ideology. 00:30:53.740 |
Consider what you believe and why so that you can be well grounded. 00:30:58.420 |
That's another thing that leads to happiness. 00:30:59.980 |
Religious people are happier than non-religious people. 00:31:08.620 |
And those are pursuits that are hard to do at later phases of life. 00:31:13.620 |
But if you really take advantage of this period of time, you can live some amazing adventures 00:31:19.020 |
while also really building up and working toward financial independence. 00:31:24.820 |
Final practical thought, I would be cautious about working an extra job at this point in 00:31:30.060 |
time if that extra job is costing you the time that could be put into something that'll 00:31:39.780 |
You don't need the extra money from an extra job. 00:31:43.580 |
I would work a 40-hour job for someone else, and I would invest the other time into personal 00:31:49.260 |
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