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Today on Radical Personal Finance, I'm going to sell you a disability insurance policy. 00:00:06.840 |
You don't have to hold on to your checkbook too tightly. 00:00:09.760 |
Unfortunately for me, I dumped my insurance license so I can't actually collect the 00:00:13.500 |
commissions on it or on the many policies that I would sell if I actually were still 00:00:19.160 |
But I'm going to do my best to actually enforce the concept today because I'm pretty 00:00:23.800 |
hardcore passionate about disability insurance. 00:00:27.440 |
I believe it's the most important insurance that you could own. 00:00:32.920 |
And I promise I'll defend that claim in today's show. 00:00:36.080 |
And I just think it's something that any intelligent thinking person who works should 00:00:44.880 |
Welcome to the Radical Personal Finance podcast. 00:01:06.200 |
This is the show where we work hard to provide you with the knowledge, skills, insight, and 00:01:10.560 |
encouragement you need to live a rich and meaningful life now while also building a 00:01:14.920 |
plan for financial freedom in 10 years or less. 00:01:18.680 |
That plan is predicated usually upon your ability to work. 00:01:22.720 |
So today, a little bit of knowledge about what to do if you can't work. 00:01:28.160 |
I received an email from a listener a few weeks ago and they said, "Joshua, I've 00:01:35.640 |
heard you make this statement several times on different shows that you really think disability 00:01:40.520 |
In fact, you think it's the most important insurance that I could own. 00:01:45.040 |
So I went to your website and I was looking through the archives for a show on disability 00:01:48.000 |
insurance and I didn't see a show on disability insurance. 00:02:01.280 |
So here we are about 350 episodes in and it's time to create this show on disability insurance. 00:02:06.720 |
And this show will be a series of shows, especially this week and more in the future. 00:02:10.880 |
I've been remiss in not getting it done sooner, but I'm happy to bring it to you. 00:02:14.480 |
And today, we're going to kick it off with the sales job. 00:02:21.400 |
I don't know why more people don't think about stuff that could happen and go out seeking 00:02:27.880 |
But the whole concept of insurance, many people have a grudge against insurance. 00:02:31.800 |
They don't like spending the money on the premiums. 00:02:33.640 |
They love to collect the checks when they come in, but they don't love buying the policies. 00:02:39.500 |
Most of us, if we had our way, we'd probably skip all insurance and we'd probably skip 00:02:44.040 |
most of the insurance that we have now if we didn't – hadn't been sold it. 00:02:52.880 |
I don't love insurance in the sense that I don't love writing those premium checks. 00:02:56.440 |
But when the policies pay out, they're useful to have and it's one of those things that 00:03:03.840 |
So because we got to start with a sale, I first got to do my job of motivating you to 00:03:11.520 |
Because if I don't do a job of motivating you to want disability insurance, it doesn't 00:03:15.800 |
matter any of the technical specifications that we're going to go through. 00:03:20.720 |
We'll go through long-term disability versus short-term disability. 00:03:23.360 |
We'll go through employer-paid – excuse me, group disability at your job versus personal 00:03:28.880 |
We'll go through whether or not you should pick up the money for the premiums in your 00:03:34.200 |
We'll go through own occupation and any occupation. 00:03:36.800 |
We'll go through the different terms of disability. 00:03:39.840 |
We'll go through the different timing of the policies, how long they last. 00:03:43.240 |
We'll go through a bunch of those things to try to give you a good understanding of 00:03:51.160 |
But today, I just want to sell you on the concept and I want to talk to you about why 00:03:57.800 |
I really do believe that disability insurance is the most important insurance policy that 00:04:07.680 |
I believe it's the most important insurance policy that you can buy. 00:04:11.760 |
To prove that point, I want to start by talking to you about which of your assets are most 00:04:21.680 |
I'm going to give you a question and you're going to think of the answer. 00:04:24.640 |
Unfortunately, I can't hear the answer but I'm going to give you time to come up with 00:04:31.040 |
If you're driving in the car, you can keep driving. 00:04:34.280 |
But just think for a moment about all the different assets on your balance sheet. 00:04:38.480 |
Most of you have listened to the show for a while. 00:04:40.160 |
Hopefully, you've gone and created a balance sheet so you could pull it up on your phone 00:04:45.480 |
So think about all of the different assets that are on your balance sheet. 00:04:49.160 |
Think of that list of assets on your balance sheet and tell me which of those assets is 00:05:03.240 |
I could also ask you the question and say, "Okay, of those assets on your balance sheet, 00:05:10.880 |
Because when we start to think about protecting an asset with insurance, we want to think 00:05:16.960 |
about it in the context of protecting the most important assets first. 00:05:23.040 |
For example, your balance sheet most likely doesn't have something like a cell phone 00:05:30.520 |
The majority of you who are listening to the sound of my voice right now are gaining that 00:05:34.200 |
– are accessing my audio file through the use of a mobile device of some sort. 00:05:39.400 |
Now most of you probably paid a couple hundred bucks for that mobile device depending on 00:05:49.060 |
And some of you have insurance on that asset. 00:05:57.860 |
But the way that we would figure that out is largely based upon how much we paid for 00:06:08.200 |
I have an iPhone 6S Plus with the way overpriced Apple memory that they give you, the high 00:06:16.400 |
Well, that $1,000 phone, if that thing broke or became inoperable, I'd be hurting a little 00:06:24.000 |
I don't like to throw $1,000 around and waste it. 00:06:30.560 |
Well, we could make a much higher argument for the benefit of putting insurance on it 00:06:35.880 |
if I paid $1,000 for it than if I paid $100 for a phone. 00:06:46.120 |
The point here is just simply to point out that bigger assets require insurance policies 00:06:52.840 |
or at least lead to considering more seriously getting an insurance policy. 00:07:00.480 |
Well, most of you, your house would probably be the largest dollar value asset on your 00:07:10.720 |
So many of you would put your house as number one. 00:07:19.640 |
I've been watching over the last few weeks these fires that have been happening in Alberta, 00:07:24.880 |
in Fort McMurray, Alberta, Canada, and it's pretty devastating to see thousands of people 00:07:35.680 |
Maybe you rent a house and you say you don't have that on your balance sheet but you have 00:07:46.680 |
You have savings accounts and investment accounts. 00:07:49.920 |
Perhaps even those accounts are much bigger than your house. 00:07:53.840 |
So perhaps those are the most important assets. 00:07:57.760 |
But there are a couple of assets that usually most people don't think to put onto this list. 00:08:04.240 |
If I were sitting in front of you in a sales situation which I were actually selling you 00:08:07.520 |
a disability insurance policy, I would have put these assets on the list and I would have 00:08:10.960 |
asked you to order these assets in order of most important to least important. 00:08:15.680 |
I would have written down your house, your car, your savings, and your investments and 00:08:19.920 |
would have added these two assets, your health and your income. 00:08:26.160 |
Now obviously these aren't exactly the same and we don't generally write down your health 00:08:33.200 |
Usually you wouldn't accurately at least following normal rules of accounting, you wouldn't actually 00:08:37.640 |
list the value of your income on a balance sheet. 00:08:40.780 |
So it's a little bit unfair of me to phrase the question I did. 00:08:46.380 |
But are these not assets that should be on a mental balance sheet? 00:08:50.560 |
I've done this little exercise thousands – not thousands, hundreds of times. 00:08:56.160 |
I've done this exercise hundreds of times and with many different people from many walks 00:09:01.920 |
of life and usually when I put this list of five or six assets in front of people and 00:09:06.080 |
I give them a pen and I ask them to order and rank the assets in order of most important, 00:09:11.180 |
most people start off with their house just like I did in my example. 00:09:18.440 |
And then they get down to that health and that income one and the way I used to do this 00:09:21.620 |
in a sales presentation was I wouldn't try to – it's not a leading question. 00:09:26.540 |
I would just say, "What's the most important? 00:09:32.860 |
And I would force people to go through the whole list. 00:09:36.260 |
After going through the whole list down by the time they reach their health and income, 00:09:40.340 |
they always stop and they say, "Well, wait a second. 00:09:43.580 |
And almost without exception, people would come out and realize and recognize that their 00:09:49.140 |
health is their number one most important asset followed quickly by their income. 00:09:56.500 |
The reason is because of what your health and your income contribute to those other 00:10:06.040 |
Your health is what enables you to earn an income. 00:10:11.660 |
Your health is what gives you the ability to go to work, to go to your job or to run 00:10:20.940 |
Without that health, it's hard to keep a job down. 00:10:24.460 |
So your health allows you to create an income and then the income is what actually pays 00:10:31.860 |
Because most of those assets that we list on our balance sheet are actually – if we 00:10:38.260 |
were to follow Robert Kiyosaki's ideas from Rich Dad, Poor Dad, they're actually liabilities 00:10:43.140 |
in the sense that they pull money from our budget. 00:10:46.320 |
The only exception to that would be savings and investments. 00:10:48.540 |
But our houses, most of them for most of us, they pull income from our budget. 00:10:53.660 |
They require upkeep and maintenance and mortgage payments and tax payments. 00:11:01.380 |
So those assets are actually dependent upon our income for us to keep them going. 00:11:09.180 |
Now, health is definitely number one for most of us. 00:11:16.220 |
Health is something that we often take for granted. 00:11:19.260 |
I'd like to challenge that for a moment and encourage you to constantly consider it. 00:11:29.780 |
If you can't earn income, then you will quickly lose the rest of your things. 00:11:37.060 |
Question, would you rather have tons of money and no health or would you rather have great 00:11:48.540 |
I magically transport you into a million-dollar mansion on the water and you are financially 00:11:57.300 |
You have income that shows up, pays all of your bills and you're lying there flat on 00:12:01.980 |
your back in that mansion with a bald head because you're going through chemotherapy 00:12:06.860 |
and radiation for cancer treatments and you don't have the energy to get out of bed by 00:12:12.740 |
But you're in a million-dollar mansion and all your bills are paid. 00:12:16.780 |
So you lie there in your bed and you look out at the water. 00:12:20.100 |
Would you rather be in that situation or would you rather be fit, healthy, filled with energy, 00:12:30.580 |
active, vibrant, flexible, strong and just not have any money to your name? 00:12:38.380 |
I often go down to the beaches here in the area and I always notice there's some people 00:12:44.500 |
hanging out at the beaches that seem to be there every day. 00:12:47.580 |
And you can go down and you can hang out as a poor person and walk on the same beach that 00:12:55.180 |
If you're active and you're healthy, you can go and jump in on a volleyball game and if 00:12:59.260 |
you're active and you're healthy, you can bum a little food off of people and if you're 00:13:02.740 |
an interesting conversationalist, they'll be happy to invite you in and you don't even 00:13:10.420 |
If I'm active and healthy, I can enjoy the day and the simple pleasures of the day to 00:13:22.540 |
Now I'm not saying that you have to choose between poverty and health. 00:13:28.900 |
If you have health, you can actually earn money. 00:13:32.700 |
And think about how many incredible ways there are to earn money if you're healthy. 00:13:37.060 |
From time to time in the past, I'd go out and rent a drift boat, go out on a fishing 00:13:45.980 |
I got a few friends that are commercial fishermen. 00:13:49.740 |
I think about commercial fishing because on these drift boats where you're basically for 00:13:53.740 |
tourists and people who want to go out for a day, there are always a couple of deckhands. 00:13:59.140 |
And it's their job to bait the hooks and help people take the fish off their hooks and just 00:14:04.900 |
basically be deckhands to help the tourists and the non-fishing natives with their fishing 00:14:16.460 |
That's a really satisfying job to some degree. 00:14:29.180 |
You got to scrub the boat down at the end of the day. 00:14:32.540 |
If you're out on a lot of friends' boats and they're out enjoying their expensive boat 00:14:38.940 |
because they have very lucrative careers and they have a beautiful sport fishing boat, 00:14:47.780 |
You got to throw a hook in the water and you got to clean up the deck when you're on your 00:14:52.820 |
So does it really matter whether you're doing it on your own boat that you worked and saved 00:14:56.980 |
for years or whether you're doing it as a deckhand at a relatively lowly paid job on 00:15:05.900 |
The person who's in good health can enjoy both of those things. 00:15:11.580 |
So not only is health generally – does that not lead to a better life and a better lifestyle 00:15:25.340 |
Better to be healthy and poor than rich and sick. 00:15:31.180 |
That's also what allows you to earn money and there are so many great ways to earn money. 00:15:37.100 |
See, health allows you to create income and income allows you to build wealth. 00:15:43.660 |
But if you lose your health, people will happily spend every dollar they have to try to get 00:15:50.220 |
You ask a sick person what they want most, it's to get their health back. 00:15:55.820 |
So there's a little encouragement for all of us to focus on our health and to make that 00:16:06.460 |
Now is our health entirely under our control? 00:16:15.900 |
We can make certain choices and decisions that will help but it's not under our control. 00:16:22.700 |
Man is so incompetent and impotent that he can't even keep himself alive or healthy 00:16:28.140 |
Again, you can do your best but you don't necessarily have that choice all the time. 00:16:33.900 |
There are things that happen that result in our not having health. 00:16:38.780 |
Well what's worse than being healthy and broke? 00:16:48.380 |
So what happens if you lose your health and you can no longer earn money? 00:16:50.780 |
Well, that's where disability insurance comes in. 00:16:53.220 |
That's the job that disability insurance is designed to do. 00:16:57.180 |
It's designed to help provide income to pay your bills if you lose your health. 00:17:05.580 |
So back to that list of assets, how important is this list? 00:17:08.700 |
Well let's say I own a house and pretend it's a $250,000 house. 00:17:12.420 |
Probably have a mortgage on it, have a pretty healthy balance if I were reflective of most 00:17:23.740 |
Maybe I have $50,000 in my savings and investment accounts. 00:17:29.100 |
People often neglect to calculate the value of their potential income. 00:17:35.980 |
Let's pretend you're 35 years old and let's pretend that you intend to work till 65. 00:17:45.140 |
Assume you're earning $60,000 per year and that you anticipate a 3% increase each year 00:17:56.140 |
Do you know what the actual value is of that income? 00:18:11.620 |
Almost everybody listening to this show has a potential income of perhaps $2 million. 00:18:20.260 |
Some of you it's a million, some of you it's two, some of you it's 10 or some of you it's 00:18:24.880 |
But just about everybody has a potential income of at least a couple million. 00:18:29.660 |
Even if you were to go to work at 45 or 50 years old and work for a decade or two, you 00:18:36.460 |
still are looking at a million or $2 of income. 00:18:44.620 |
So if we actually write that on the income, on the list of assets, when you write down 00:18:49.180 |
$3 million, for most of us, that totally dwarfs everything else. 00:18:55.020 |
When I used to do this face-to-face with prospective clients, I would first love to point out the 00:19:00.080 |
fact that – because I always created the balance sheet and then I would point out the 00:19:04.180 |
I would say, "Listen, you are going to earn $3 million over the course of your lifetime. 00:19:10.260 |
Now you're looking over here and you got $10,000 of credit card debt and you got $14,000 00:19:15.540 |
that you owe on your car and you got $22,000 of student loans and $142,000 mortgage. 00:19:21.220 |
And you're feeling really upset and frustrated about that. 00:19:24.620 |
But look, you've got $3 million over here that I expect you to earn over the next 30 00:19:36.800 |
Now do you think that it's possible that you could put some of this $3 million and 00:19:42.020 |
clear the credit card debt, clear the car payment, clear the student loans, pay off 00:19:45.660 |
the mortgage and possibly save a few hundred thousand or a million or two bucks? 00:20:00.060 |
Well, behavior, which is the most challenging thing for all of us to control, behavior. 00:20:06.580 |
Because in order for me to actually do that, to pay off the car, I have to not go and immediately 00:20:12.760 |
In order to do that and pay off the credit cards, I have to not immediately go and put 00:20:19.860 |
But when you look at it in the big picture and compare the $3 million to the things that 00:20:23.940 |
stress us out today, that should give most people some hope. 00:20:29.960 |
Think about the amount of money that you pay to insure these things. 00:20:34.620 |
The way I used to do this with clients and I invite you to picture it in your head was 00:20:38.140 |
I would draw a little picture of your car on the left-hand side of a paper right in 00:20:44.340 |
Draw a little picture of your car and I would know by this time in the discussion, I would 00:20:52.540 |
Ask you how much you're paying for car insurance. 00:20:55.460 |
So I would write $20,000 over the car and I would write $1,200 underneath it, $1,200 00:21:04.940 |
Then I would draw a picture of your house and by this time in the conversation, I know 00:21:10.660 |
So I'd write down $250,000 and ask how much you're paying for homeowner's insurance, 00:21:20.140 |
Then I would keep both of those pictures pretty small. 00:21:23.020 |
Then I would draw this huge box, this big, big box and I would write in there and I would 00:21:29.380 |
do the math for them, $60,000 times 30 years, 3% to 5% increase in annual pay and I would 00:21:40.380 |
I'd do my best to make it comparative, to show you how huge your income is compared 00:21:47.340 |
Then I'd draw a little line under it and I'd ask my good sales question, "How much is that 00:21:54.980 |
I invite you to consider it because you pay $1,200 a year to insure a car and you do that 00:22:13.100 |
But the car is worth $20,000 and you pay $3,000 a year to put insurance on your house. 00:22:19.660 |
You do that because the mortgage company makes you do it. 00:22:24.140 |
But yet you've got a $3 million asset that you don't have insurance on? 00:22:37.900 |
Now that should, I hope, set the stage for you to consider the value of disability income 00:22:48.300 |
There are lots of other statistics and things that you could go to. 00:22:52.220 |
When I was a new insurance agent, I memorized all these numbers about the rates of morbidity 00:22:58.380 |
Morbidity means getting sick and how likely you were to get sick and hurt at any specific 00:23:05.780 |
Finally, I threw all that stuff away and just drew pictures for people. 00:23:09.780 |
I hope that I've drawn a mental picture for you to simply demonstrate that it's really 00:23:29.780 |
Because you're spending your money trying to get your health back, well how are you 00:23:35.660 |
That's why I personally believe that if I could only choose to have one type of insurance, 00:23:43.260 |
I would choose long-term disability income insurance over any other type of insurance. 00:23:50.660 |
Because that's the one that will make the biggest difference in my life if I face a 00:24:05.860 |
I've had for a long time, I've had an outline here of doing a show. 00:24:11.100 |
I haven't done it but basically it was inspired by a listener who about a year ago wrote to 00:24:15.940 |
me and said, "Joshua, I had heard you talk about getting disability insurance. 00:24:23.980 |
We corresponded a little bit and he told me all the details of his life. 00:24:27.100 |
I've been intending to do a show, what do you do when you get diagnosed with cancer? 00:24:36.500 |
Cancer seems to be in remission, just finished up the final stage of his treatment. 00:24:46.780 |
Let's say that I all of a sudden found out that I were diagnosed with cancer. 00:24:53.340 |
I have a house and I have homeowner's insurance on it. 00:24:57.020 |
Well, if I'm going through cancer, how am I going to pay the homeowner's insurance if 00:25:07.300 |
Even if I have homeowner's insurance, I can't even keep it because I'm not going to be able 00:25:09.740 |
to make the payment if I don't have income and don't have savings. 00:25:13.820 |
Same thing with car insurance and those types of property insurances. 00:25:18.620 |
If I don't have income and I have cancer and I can't work, and this listener of mine was 00:25:26.620 |
I'll cover the objections, people, reasons people don't get disability insurance in a 00:25:37.820 |
So it's kind of pointless to have property insurance when I can't even keep the property 00:25:41.540 |
insurance in force and I probably can't even keep the property if I don't have any income. 00:25:48.300 |
So car insurance and homeowner's insurance are pretty easy. 00:25:57.900 |
Would I rather choose to have life insurance or disability insurance? 00:26:02.460 |
Frankly, if I could only choose one, I'd rather have disability insurance. 00:26:09.860 |
If I get sick or hurt and I die, is that going to be tough on my family? 00:26:23.740 |
If I have no savings and no insurance, it will be very, very difficult. 00:26:31.440 |
If I have a wife and young kids, it would be tough. 00:26:40.060 |
Well, there's people who face this all throughout history, who face it all the time. 00:26:48.980 |
There are hundreds of thousands of single moms supporting single-handedly, either because 00:26:53.860 |
they were abandoned by their children's father or because their child's father's children's 00:26:59.180 |
There are hundreds of thousands of single moms working and supporting children. 00:27:04.520 |
There are social support structures that would step in and help out. 00:27:08.420 |
There would be a social security widow and orphan payment for my children, guaranteed. 00:27:14.540 |
So they would have some minimum level of income. 00:27:17.240 |
Because I'm dead and gone, my family can work out whatever living arrangements need to be 00:27:22.000 |
worked out in order for them to be able to make it financially. 00:27:27.440 |
They could sell the house if we owned a house. 00:27:32.120 |
If my wife had to move in with her parents or my parents or a family member of some kind, 00:27:42.000 |
Because I'm dead and I'm gone, she's free to step in and take over the work, take over 00:27:53.080 |
And because I'm dead and gone, my expenses have stopped. 00:28:00.400 |
She doesn't have to have an extra car for me. 00:28:06.440 |
Let's say that instead of me being dead, I'm just simply pretty sick. 00:28:20.920 |
She could find someone else and marry somebody else who would be able to help support her 00:28:35.160 |
My wife and I kind of made an agreement that until death do us part, so she's stuck with 00:28:40.080 |
We said in sickness and in health, so she's stuck with me. 00:28:47.160 |
Well, it's kind of hard to sell the house when you're dealing with a sick husband. 00:28:51.840 |
Kind of hard to move apartments when you've got to figure out how do we take care of this 00:29:01.560 |
Is it possible to get social security disability? 00:29:04.760 |
I highly recommend you never, ever plan on getting it. 00:29:09.360 |
You've got to be really, really disabled to get it. 00:29:13.160 |
You've got to be disabled for a while and there's got to be almost no chance of you're 00:29:20.040 |
I have worked with some people in social security disability claims, people who are without 00:29:25.120 |
question utterly entitled to those benefits the way the law is written. 00:29:36.000 |
When you get it, it ain't much, especially if you're young. 00:29:39.240 |
A friend of mine that tries to live on about $600 a month to support herself because she 00:29:45.080 |
got social security disability, fought it for years to finally get it. 00:29:55.400 |
So let's just assume there's no social security disability payments. 00:29:57.920 |
I could get into the technical reasons of why if those of you who want to nitpick me 00:30:05.880 |
You've got to be totally disabled, unable to do any gainful employment for an expected 00:30:16.120 |
If we have no income, how is she going to – she's got to go to work? 00:30:22.760 |
Well, family can step in and that's always what happens. 00:30:25.560 |
But the point is it's far easier on her if I'm dead and gone than if I'm simply 00:30:33.120 |
Disability is much more difficult on her because now she goes and gets a job. 00:30:39.880 |
She's got to go take a job and then when she comes home, she's got to take care of 00:30:46.280 |
So instead of two kids and a husband to help her with, now she's got two kids and a third 00:30:49.960 |
kid, meaning me, who's more work than any of the kids. 00:30:55.840 |
So I'd rather have disability insurance than life insurance if I could only choose 00:31:08.200 |
And if you have great health insurance, it's possible that that could entitle you to great 00:31:14.760 |
If you're broke, we've got a whole system of Medicaid that's designed to pay for that. 00:31:20.200 |
Is it going to be the best care that you could possibly get? 00:31:24.360 |
It's always been a hard question for me to answer. 00:31:26.680 |
My experience has been you're going to get care no matter how broke and bankrupt you 00:31:31.800 |
And we've decided this is an important program. 00:31:36.360 |
So you're going to get Medicaid even if you don't have any money. 00:31:40.360 |
You're going to get medical care if you don't have any health insurance. 00:31:44.840 |
Let's say you just pile up a million dollars of medical bills. 00:31:48.080 |
There's bankruptcy courts to help you get out of those debts. 00:31:54.800 |
Or after you get better, you can work with the creditors. 00:31:57.480 |
You can work to negotiate them and you can work to pay them back. 00:32:01.720 |
So if you have giant bills, giant medical bills, you can deal with those things. 00:32:07.880 |
But you know what's really difficult to deal with? 00:32:15.080 |
A mortgage company that's foreclosing on your house while you're also dealing with the medical 00:32:20.160 |
bills because your income is not just for you. 00:32:29.180 |
You might be in the hospital or you might not be in the hospital. 00:32:32.360 |
But if you're not in the hospital, how are you going to pay your rent if you can't work? 00:32:38.520 |
So if I had to choose between health insurance and disability insurance, I'll take the disability 00:32:44.200 |
The health insurance I can deal with at a future time. 00:32:46.280 |
The health bills and all those things, I can deal with those. 00:32:49.240 |
When I'm better or if I'm not better, I can't deal with them. 00:32:52.040 |
And I'll say thank you very much to the creditors. 00:33:02.160 |
But if I have at least $3,000 a month or $2,000 a month or $20,000 a month, whatever the number 00:33:07.760 |
is of disability, then I can possibly keep my mortgage paid and keep from getting foreclosed 00:33:14.600 |
I can possibly have enough money to buy some groceries. 00:33:17.640 |
I could possibly have enough money to keep the car going to be able to maintain some 00:33:22.600 |
And the cool thing about disability payments is legally in most states, they're going to 00:33:28.240 |
So your creditors are not going to be able to come after disability payments in most 00:33:34.720 |
However, practically, it's pretty easy to evade those who would seek to attach that 00:33:43.240 |
If you just have an income, that's a contract between you and the insurance company. 00:33:47.840 |
You can get that income and you can pay your bills the same day, the bills that you need 00:33:51.240 |
to be able to stay in your house and you can be in good shape. 00:34:03.320 |
Disability insurance usually goes away and long-term care insurance kicks in at the end 00:34:10.320 |
So if I need long-term care as a 30-year-old, that's a situation that would pay out under 00:34:17.280 |
the context of a long-term care policy or also under a disability policy. 00:34:21.760 |
So I truly believe that disability insurance is more important than all of the other insurances. 00:34:28.760 |
Now the cool thing about insurance is generally, it's pretty inexpensive. 00:34:33.480 |
Disability insurance costs more than term life insurance, usually not nearly as expensive 00:34:41.280 |
It varies depending on how you compare it to long-term care insurance. 00:34:46.280 |
It's going to come out to be 1%, 2% or 3% of your income depending on what type of policy 00:34:51.400 |
you buy, what policy design constraints you put into it, what type of occupation you have, 00:35:08.440 |
That is probably more important than some of the other insurances that you have. 00:35:15.480 |
Now does everybody need disability insurance? 00:35:22.480 |
People who are financially independent don't need disability insurance. 00:35:29.040 |
If you or your family is not dependent on your income to maintain your lifestyle, you 00:35:40.320 |
I think there's a compelling argument to be made to have it, especially when you get into 00:35:45.280 |
it from the perspective of trying to protect very high incomes. 00:35:49.200 |
People who have invested years of work in their education and years of work in establishing 00:35:54.680 |
their career to build a very high income usually have an appreciation for the value of that 00:36:01.720 |
Usually this comes in with highly compensated physicians, very knowledgeable and very inclined 00:36:10.320 |
to have disability insurance, highly compensated professions like attorneys, things like that. 00:36:16.240 |
These people are usually open and much more interested in having disability insurance. 00:36:22.360 |
For physicians it's generally considered to be mandatory, perhaps because they work with 00:36:30.480 |
But you don't need it if you're financially independent. 00:36:34.020 |
So if you are retired or you could retire without any impact to your lifestyle, you 00:36:49.640 |
Now why don't people get disability insurance? 00:36:53.200 |
First, many people can't get disability insurance. 00:36:58.160 |
They can't get disability insurance because of medical reasons. 00:37:02.320 |
They might have had a previous situation that resulted in them being sick in the past. 00:37:09.400 |
Disability insurance underwriting can be very challenging. 00:37:11.880 |
All kinds of little things can come into play. 00:37:16.920 |
I had many people experience problems in underwriting because they have to be very, very careful. 00:37:23.520 |
You have the possibility – the probability of adverse selection against the insurance 00:37:28.840 |
So people who have been injured in the past are much more motivated to get the insurance 00:37:35.780 |
Same problem they face with health insurance. 00:37:37.860 |
People who have been sick in the past are the first people to sign up and say, "Yeah, 00:37:42.560 |
People who are healthy usually don't want to spend the money. 00:37:46.760 |
It can be difficult for some people to get with a medical history. 00:37:50.280 |
It can also be difficult to get with certain occupations. 00:37:55.080 |
There are many occupations that are simply not insurable for disability insurance, at 00:38:04.320 |
You have to work really hard sometimes to get certain types of coverage. 00:38:08.920 |
Now a knowledgeable insurance broker should be able to shop – if you are looking for 00:38:14.140 |
disability insurance, a knowledgeable insurance broker should be able to shop you around to 00:38:18.920 |
What you will find is that there are different companies who specialize in different occupations. 00:38:23.420 |
There are some companies that will not accept anybody in this occupation. 00:38:27.980 |
But there are other companies that will do a great job in that occupation. 00:38:32.560 |
You would be surprised at where these lines fall. 00:38:35.680 |
For example, when I was with – the company I was with didn't insure chiropractors, 00:38:43.120 |
just flat out refused to accept chiropractors. 00:38:45.560 |
So you get into certain medical specialties and these jobs are simply not insurable. 00:38:51.440 |
So many people have trouble because of their occupation. 00:38:54.680 |
Many people have trouble because of their hobbies, their avocations. 00:38:59.640 |
If you're jumping out of airplanes or flying airplanes, things like that, those can result 00:39:08.560 |
Many people have trouble getting disability insurance because of financial qualifications. 00:39:15.520 |
First, you have to qualify based upon your income and some people have group benefits, 00:39:21.560 |
So they are going to deal with what they have at their group. 00:39:24.400 |
Many entrepreneurs and self-employed people have a very difficult time getting disability 00:39:29.520 |
They can't get disability insurance right now, new business. 00:39:34.000 |
New business has to – you have to show your earnings record. 00:39:38.760 |
One of the challenges that entrepreneurs face and people who are business owners is the 00:39:45.000 |
amount of income that they show on their tax return and the amount of income that they 00:39:48.640 |
actually experience are usually two different numbers. 00:39:53.160 |
The disability insurance underwriter is going to go based upon your profits. 00:39:58.480 |
So when we talk about strategies to show a lower income in order to save on taxes, that's 00:40:04.820 |
But that hurts you when you go to apply for a mortgage and it hurts you when you go to 00:40:12.800 |
But many times, the reasons people just don't buy disability insurance is because they're 00:40:18.320 |
They've already spent and allocated the money to something else. 00:40:21.360 |
It's very challenging to get a normal middle class family to – who's not accustomed 00:40:27.120 |
to buying disability insurance to happily and eagerly fork over $250 or $300 or $350 00:40:38.640 |
Many people, even though they buy everything that I said and they said, "Yeah, I get 00:40:42.160 |
it," and you can look at statistics until you're blue in the face. 00:40:45.320 |
That's why I just don't even bother going to the numbers. 00:40:47.240 |
But you can look at those things until you're blue in the face and it's $300 a month or 00:41:00.320 |
Men are the worst and I get all these stupid excuses. 00:41:08.040 |
In fact, women are much more likely to get – excuse me. 00:41:13.400 |
Women are more likely to get disabled than are men. 00:41:18.080 |
Men die sooner but men are less likely to get disabled than women. 00:41:21.520 |
So for women, your disability insurance actually will cost you more than for men. 00:41:27.680 |
For men, life insurance costs more than for a woman. 00:41:30.520 |
For a woman, disability insurance costs more. 00:41:33.920 |
But for men, the standard two things is, "I'll work even though I'm sick." 00:41:41.940 |
If you're a man and you're listening and you have that consideration, I just ask you, 00:41:45.280 |
have you ever been sick and not felt like going to work? 00:41:58.320 |
You got to acknowledge at least – you would have to at least acknowledge it intellectually, 00:42:05.960 |
But you got to at least acknowledge intellectually that it's possible to get in a position 00:42:09.800 |
where you're still alive and you're still functional to some degree but you can't 00:42:15.400 |
The second thing is usually men will make some motion that involves an imitation of 00:42:21.400 |
a cocked gun pointed to their head and they'll say, "This is my solution." 00:42:25.920 |
I never had any idea that so many people were suicidal until I started working at the disability 00:42:32.440 |
insurance marketplace, which, man, is utterly absurd. 00:42:37.160 |
You're going to take the fact that you're disabled and just the fact that you're disabled 00:42:41.920 |
means that you can't go on living and you somehow expect that you're disabled but 00:42:48.200 |
your wife is going to leave a gun in the drawer next to you? 00:42:58.480 |
So those are just the two objections that always annoyed me that every single man would 00:43:02.640 |
present to me and I – anyway, it just always annoyed me. 00:43:07.080 |
But that's the background on disability insurance. 00:43:15.680 |
I urge you to consider what you have, what you don't have. 00:43:19.000 |
We'll talk more about that in coming episodes. 00:43:21.880 |
But I hope that it's somewhat compelling to you to at least look into it, to at least 00:43:28.480 |
be open to it, and to at least think about it. 00:43:32.400 |
What happens is disability insurance is not sold as aggressively as it should be. 00:43:38.400 |
That's why I don't get into a lot of the debates about – people want to get into 00:43:42.360 |
debates about what insurance agents should do and what insurance agents shouldn't do. 00:43:46.640 |
One of the things that people who comment, the biggest debate is term life insurance 00:43:55.280 |
It's like do you understand why life insurance agents sell whole life insurance? 00:44:02.660 |
When you talk about term life insurance and whole life insurance, people want to buy whole 00:44:07.280 |
life insurance because they get their money back. 00:44:10.280 |
Oftentimes, these very intelligent financial people who have run all the numbers and run 00:44:14.760 |
all the math will go through and say, "Why do people – why are the majority of life 00:44:18.320 |
insurance policies sold whole life insurance?" 00:44:21.680 |
They don't want to buy term life insurance with throwing their money away. 00:44:24.600 |
The sad thing is that – well, not a sad thing, but the reality is people buy what 00:44:31.040 |
Insurance agents find it easier to sell into a willing marketplace. 00:44:40.880 |
First, please consider buying disability insurance if you're a consumer. 00:44:44.480 |
If you're a life insurance agent, please work really hard to sell disability insurance. 00:44:51.720 |
One reason I never got that involved in the whole life insurance thing is usually if I 00:44:54.720 |
work with a young family, the first sale I'm going to make is disability insurance. 00:44:59.160 |
I would frankly often keep from talking about life insurance because if I – until the 00:45:04.520 |
disability insurance was either sold or rejected, until the prospective client had made a firm 00:45:12.760 |
I knew that most people at this point are convinced that they're going to buy life 00:45:17.560 |
Most thinking parents, young parents, they know they need to get life insurance. 00:45:21.040 |
They'll go ahead and get some term life insurance. 00:45:23.080 |
But I always worked really, really hard to get disability insurance put in place first 00:45:29.600 |
Usually by the time you use up your budget, you look at the amount of dollars that are 00:45:32.480 |
available and those dollars get sucked up by disability insurance and a term life insurance 00:45:37.960 |
You don't have any time or money to get on to anything different. 00:45:43.760 |
So I urge you, please be open to it if an insurance agent talks to you about it. 00:45:49.720 |
You will find a difficult time finding insurance agents who are experts in this. 00:45:55.720 |
Many insurance agents have gotten beat in the face so many times by people saying, "I 00:46:01.520 |
I'll just grab the 45 in the drawer next to me and I'll take care of things," that they 00:46:06.360 |
give up and they stop pushing through to find out what's right and to push through to what's 00:46:13.320 |
I've met so many financial advisors who primarily specialize in investments. 00:46:23.360 |
So you got to work hard as an insurance agent to do it, to sell disability insurance. 00:46:30.280 |
If you are a listener who's skeptical about disability insurance, go and find an old seasoned 00:46:37.100 |
life insurance agent, somebody who's been in the business for 30 or 40 years and ask 00:46:43.240 |
them the number of their clients who have been disabled and who are out on claim or 00:46:48.280 |
who've been out on claim for disability versus the number of clients that have died and they've 00:46:57.400 |
What you find is that many old life insurance agents have a much higher number of their 00:47:05.520 |
clients out on disability than death at a premature age. 00:47:11.960 |
Now, the numbers on this are hard to parse and I'm specifically avoiding saying them, 00:47:16.560 |
but you have a higher probability of being disabled at an early age than you do of dying 00:47:28.320 |
The reason the data is hard to parse is simply because everybody dies. 00:47:37.000 |
But if you look at even your own personal experience in your own circle of contact and 00:47:42.420 |
ask yourself how many people have been disabled at an early age versus how many people have 00:47:47.840 |
died at an early age, I think you'll find a similar fact pattern emerge. 00:47:52.040 |
That's my sales pitch for you on disability insurance. 00:47:59.960 |
If you agree with me or disagree with me, I'd be welcome to your comments. 00:48:02.960 |
I have had lots of people that disagree with me on which insurance I think is most important. 00:48:09.340 |
But I'm telling you, I'll take it every time. 00:48:13.240 |
I'll take disability insurance every time over any of the rest of them because the rest 00:48:26.080 |
Health insurance protects the hospital and the doctors and to some extent me. 00:48:31.000 |
Disability insurance is income and money in my pocket. 00:48:41.480 |
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Things like this would be a great point of discussion. 00:49:03.680 |
I don't have an insurance license so I won't tell you buy this one or don't buy this one. 00:49:07.360 |
If you want to talk about whether you need it or not, I was on a consulting call on Friday 00:49:12.640 |
and the listener said, "Do I need disability insurance?" 00:49:18.320 |
In that case, I said, "Yes, you need life insurance. 00:49:20.400 |
No, you don't need disability insurance because of some other extenuating circumstances." 00:49:24.240 |
That's a great conversation if you want to get on the phone with me and talk about it. 00:49:28.160 |
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