back to indexWhat Does It Feel Like to See the Beauty of Christ?
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Well, John Piper is a big advocate for seeing glimpses of the peculiar glory of Christ in Scripture. 00:00:09.000 |
And those moments of discovery in his Bible are far more than mere intellectual discoveries. 00:00:14.000 |
They are affectional. They feed within him his delight in God. 00:00:18.000 |
So the question then becomes, well, John Piper, what does it feel like to see the beauty of Christ? 00:00:24.000 |
And this bold question comes from a listener named Josephine. 00:00:28.000 |
Hello, Pastor John. I love to read my Bible every day and get to know God better. 00:00:31.000 |
And I have heard you talk about the importance of not just reading the Bible, 00:00:34.000 |
but reading in such a way as to see the peculiar glory of Christ shining from the pages into our eyes to stir our hearts. 00:00:42.000 |
It's a very unique type of reading, requiring genuine faith, regeneration, and of course the power of the Spirit. 00:00:49.000 |
But I don't really know if or how or when this happens in my life. 00:00:52.000 |
Sometimes I make discoveries in the text that really stir my heart. Sometimes I don't. 00:00:57.000 |
Can you bring us into your own Bible reading and articulate for me the difference between simply reading the Bible 00:01:04.000 |
and those precious times in which you are met with the glory of Christ shining in the pages of Scripture? 00:01:10.000 |
I presume this does not always happen, but what's it like for you when it does? 00:01:15.000 |
Okay, as risky as it is, I'll try to give you a glimpse into this morning's meeting with God in Scripture. 00:01:27.000 |
And I say it's risky because our fallen heart, our sinful heart, John Piper's sinful heart, 00:01:36.000 |
is so primed for pride that to speak of our own experiences almost inevitably passes over into boasting. 00:01:50.000 |
As contradictory and insane as that is, such is the nature of our remaining corruption. 00:01:59.000 |
But perhaps, since you asked, the good may outweigh the risk in this case. 00:02:08.000 |
One of the reasons we don't meet God profoundly in his Word as often as we would like 00:02:16.000 |
is because our hearts are so unprepared and out of sync with spiritual reality when we come. 00:02:26.000 |
Wesley Duell, in his book Let God Guide You Daily, page 77, said, 00:02:33.000 |
"I have at times read as many as 50 chapters from God's Word before I was completely alone with God." 00:02:48.000 |
Here we have a nice, neat daily prescription for how to get alone with God, namely, 00:02:56.000 |
read 50 chapters of the Bible, then you'll be in tune. 00:03:00.000 |
We all know that's unrealistic, but I mention it for two reasons. 00:03:06.000 |
One is to point out the fact that we may be that out of sync spiritually and emotionally and psychologically 00:03:16.000 |
with the Bible, so that when we read, our frame of mind and the disposition of our heart 00:03:23.000 |
and the spiritual receptivity of our heart are so out of step with the spirit of the passage 00:03:33.000 |
that we're reading that nothing happens. It can't happen. 00:03:37.000 |
And the other reason is to say that even though reading 50 chapters of the Bible every day is unrealistic, 00:03:45.000 |
reading 50 chapters on a two-day retreat in solitude in a motel that your spouse gave you as a gift 00:03:53.000 |
is not unrealistic. Have you ever pursued it? Have you ever asked for it? 00:04:01.000 |
So many people complain about God not meeting them. 00:04:05.000 |
They've never even conceived of what Wesley Duell regularly does to find God in his Word. 00:04:13.000 |
One of the ways that I seek to have my heart prepared for Scripture is to sometimes spend 15 or 20 minutes 00:04:23.000 |
reading a book by someone who I have learned over the years has seen more glory in the Scriptures than I have, 00:04:39.000 |
Their sight and their experience prepares me for my sight and my experience. 00:04:51.000 |
So this morning I read this on page 159 of Volume 1 of the works of John Owen, these words. 00:05:03.000 |
"I'm sitting in my chair in complete solitude and quietness," and here's what Owen wrote. 00:05:11.000 |
"There is more glory under the eye of God," and I think what he means by that is there's more glory in the sight of God 00:05:22.000 |
"There's more glory under the eye of God in the sighs, groans, and mournings of poor souls 00:05:30.000 |
filled with the love of Christ, pursuing after the enjoyment of him according to his promises. 00:05:36.000 |
He sees more glory in their fervent prayers for his manifestation of himself unto them, 00:05:44.000 |
in the refreshments and unspeakable joys which they have in his gracious visits and embraces of his love, 00:05:52.000 |
than in the thrones and diadems of all the monarchs on the earth. 00:05:59.000 |
Nor will the poor, sighing, groaning, seeking souls part with the ineffable satisfactions 00:06:08.000 |
which they have in these things for all that is in the world or that the world can do for them or unto them." 00:06:18.000 |
When I read that this morning, there rose up in my heart a strong yes. 00:06:25.000 |
Yes, Lord. Yes. I am sighing. I am groaning. I am mourning. 00:06:34.000 |
I am longing for these enjoyments, for these refreshments, for these unspeakable pleasures, 00:06:42.000 |
for these visits and embraces of the love of Christ. I want them more than I want all the world or what it can do for me. 00:06:53.000 |
And in the very longing and crying out, I tasted the love of Christ for me, the visit of Christ. 00:07:06.000 |
Don't you think that C.S. Lewis is absolutely right in what he says over and over again, 00:07:16.000 |
namely, that the perfect fullness of the enjoyment of Christ reserved for the future, 00:07:23.000 |
when we meet him face to face and all our sin and all the hindrances to joy are removed, 00:07:30.000 |
as it says in 1 John 3, that perfect fullness of the enjoyment of Christ's presence is experienced really, 00:07:40.000 |
substantively, authentically, spiritually in the very longings for it. 00:07:48.000 |
It's an artificial thing to separate our deepest yearnings and achings and longings and cryings for Christ 00:07:57.000 |
from his presence and his sweetness and the tastes of his visits and his love. 00:08:05.000 |
That's an artificial distinction. The longings are themselves a sweet taste of the bread of heaven. 00:08:14.000 |
The yearnings are themselves a sweet detection of the aroma of paradise. 00:08:22.000 |
The inconsolable desires of your soul for Christ are themselves a divine work of the Holy Spirit 00:08:32.000 |
communicating to you in advance some measure of the sweetness of Christ himself in heaven. 00:08:40.000 |
Then, having spent about 20 minutes reading John Owen, I turned to the next reading appointed in my pilgrimage through the Bible. 00:08:51.000 |
So I'm using the Discipleship Journal reading plan that gets me through the Bible in a year. 00:08:57.000 |
And the next text appointed for me was Romans chapter 9. 00:09:04.000 |
And I will tell you straight up that there are three other places appointed for me to read today—Deuteronomy, Psalms, Matthew— 00:09:11.000 |
and I did not read them this morning. I will do that this evening. 00:09:16.000 |
God met me in Romans 9 in such a way that I felt that to walk away from Romans 9 to Deuteronomy or Matthew or Psalms 00:09:27.000 |
would be to walk away from God's work in my life. 00:09:32.000 |
Now, this is a very familiar chapter to me. I have read Romans 9 a hundred times, 00:09:39.000 |
and I wrote a big book on the first 23 verses of this chapter. 00:09:46.000 |
And it is the curse of fallen man that familiarity breeds contempt, or at least indifference. 00:09:54.000 |
And I am not immune to being callous to Scripture because I know it so well. 00:10:00.000 |
But God had prepared me through his servant, John Owen. 00:10:05.000 |
And there it was in a frame, a disposition, a tenderness, a susceptibility, a readiness. 00:10:12.000 |
And for some reason, and I do not know why, when I got to verse 14, 15, and 16, God showed up in an unusual way. 00:10:24.000 |
And you're right. This does not happen every time I read my Bible. 00:10:30.000 |
But now this next sentence I'm going to say really matters because so many people say, 00:10:38.000 |
No! When he does, it's worth a year's reading for. 00:10:45.000 |
I mean, if he showed up once a year, it would be worth reading every day, wouldn't it? 00:10:58.000 |
So I read this. "What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? 00:11:05.000 |
By no means. For he says to Moses, 'I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.' 00:11:14.000 |
So then it depends not on the one who wills or runs, but on God who has mercy." 00:11:23.000 |
Now Paul is raising the issue of God's justice here because of his choosing Isaac over Ishmael, Jacob over Esau, 00:11:31.000 |
because—or before—they were born or had done anything good or evil. 00:11:37.000 |
And Paul's answer is no, no. God is not unjust in his choice of one over the other. 00:11:43.000 |
Why? Because "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy." 00:11:52.000 |
"I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." 00:11:59.000 |
This is God talking. In other words, because I do what I do in freedom, 00:12:07.000 |
my doings, my choosings are not governed by forces outside of me, John Piper. 00:12:15.000 |
I am God. This is part of my glory as God. And it is always just to uphold God and to act as God in his glory. 00:12:29.000 |
And then he interprets what he means when he says that in Exodus and says, 00:12:34.000 |
"My doings, my choices are not owing to man's willing or running." 00:12:41.000 |
Not man's choices, not man's deeds, but are owing to God who has mercy. 00:12:48.000 |
And all I know to say is, for the next half hour or so, my mind moved back and forth, 00:12:59.000 |
back and forth through Romans chapter 9 as the absolute freedom and righteousness of God washed over me, 00:13:13.000 |
subdued me, broke my presumptions, shut my mouth, filled me with thankfulness, 00:13:26.000 |
caused me to weep for lost people very, very close to me, gave me sweet assurance 00:13:35.000 |
that God can do anything he please in this world in absolute freedom and sovereignty, 00:13:43.000 |
and therefore, there is hope. So much more happened, but time is up, 00:13:50.000 |
and I hope that gives you a little glimpse into what you were asking about. 00:13:56.000 |
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Well, speaking of great questions, none other than C.S. Lewis himself seemed to see that God's glory and our joy were interlinked. 00:14:36.000 |
But he also seemed to say that the penny will drop on this connection for most Christians on the other side of eternity, not in this life. 00:14:45.000 |
In other words, most Christians will not grasp Christian hedonism in this life. 00:14:50.000 |
So would C.S. Lewis say that our labors at DG is aiming at goals that are premature? 00:14:57.000 |
Wow. I am so glad I get to ask the questions. I'm your host, Tony Reinke. We'll see you back here on Friday.