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All right, well I'm refreshed Jesse, so let's do some questions. What do you think? 00:00:03.520 |
Should we start with a call? Is that what we're doing here? Yeah, let's start with a 00:00:05.880 |
call. We got a call from Erica and she's gonna talk about anxiety and time block 00:00:12.440 |
planning. Hello, my name is Erica. I am a return caller and general asker of 00:00:23.120 |
questions. Today my question is regarding anxiety and time block planning. So one 00:00:31.480 |
side of me loves to have my schedule set so I don't have to think about it, but 00:00:36.680 |
when I get to the day where I have something planned at a certain time, I 00:00:41.080 |
get anxiety because there's this other side of me that loves flexibility. I do 00:00:47.240 |
like schedule throughout my day some unstructured time, but and once I start 00:00:53.480 |
an activity I'm usually happy with doing the activity, but I just get a lot of 00:00:58.480 |
inertial pre-event anxiety and just you know a feeling of not wanting to do a 00:01:05.600 |
certain thing at the time I have it. So I'll give a good example, like I schedule 00:01:11.680 |
a reservation at a restaurant you know like a month in advance or something and 00:01:16.840 |
that I'm really excited for, but when the day comes I just don't like feeling 00:01:22.200 |
boxed in and having to be at the restaurant at a certain time, but then I 00:01:27.240 |
get there and I love it. So do you have any like tips or thoughts on how I might 00:01:35.640 |
be able to just get over this I don't know I don't know I don't know the right 00:01:40.960 |
term for it I guess pre-inertial anxiety towards a structured schedule event. 00:01:47.880 |
All right thank you very much take care bye. Well I mean Erika this is similar to 00:01:54.000 |
what we were chatting about at the top of the show about the the resistance I 00:01:59.000 |
feel to restarting my full-time block planning system at the beginning of the 00:02:04.000 |
fall. You're feeling this but basically on the scale of individual scheduled 00:02:08.360 |
events or blocks same underlying mechanisms and is quite normal. Our brain 00:02:14.640 |
does not understand by understand I mean has not been evolved over deep history 00:02:22.120 |
time to last two to three hundred thousand years where modern homo sapiens 00:02:25.560 |
have walked the earth. It has not evolved to work with scheduled events it's not 00:02:32.080 |
evolved to work with I am now going to start doing this task because it's drawn 00:02:38.680 |
up in a box on a piece of paper. I am now going to head over to a restaurant to 00:02:43.880 |
eat because it's in my planner that that's what happens next. That is not how 00:02:49.840 |
our motivational loops are evolved to actually function. They're functioning 00:02:53.800 |
they're meant to function on much more immediate and clear stimuli. We need more 00:02:59.600 |
food we're going for a hunt. This person who's in front of me who I can see so 00:03:05.920 |
all of the social networks that take up so much of my neuron neuronal space in 00:03:10.480 |
my brain are all fired up and looking at this person in front of me who's a part 00:03:13.800 |
of my tribe who's asking for my help. Oh yeah we're gonna go help that person. We 00:03:17.520 |
expect these more acute stimuli. The brain does not understand a small box 00:03:22.440 |
written one of these or a little green glowing screen box on your screen your 00:03:27.760 |
Google calendar for an appointment. It doesn't understand that. So we have some 00:03:32.080 |
trouble literally getting the motivational system to put the right 00:03:36.480 |
chemicals into our system that gets us up and actually moving. There's something 00:03:40.320 |
called the ventral striatum that's involved in this. The neuroscience gets 00:03:43.120 |
complicated. Details don't matter. We can we'll get Andrew Huberman on the line if 00:03:47.800 |
we really want to get into this but let's just rest assured this is what our 00:03:51.680 |
brain does. Different people Erica have different reactions to this mismatch. 00:03:56.960 |
Right so some people it's yeah whatever. Yeah you have to just kind of bull rush 00:04:03.920 |
into the task then you get going. It's minor. Other people like you Erica the 00:04:08.480 |
mismatch triggers anxiety which again chemicals. Anxiety is a physical feeling. 00:04:14.000 |
There's a constriction in the chest. There's a difficulty in the breathing. 00:04:18.200 |
You can you can do some self scanning and say this is just physical hormonal 00:04:23.600 |
chemical driven reaction. The autonomic immune system or nervous system rather 00:04:27.400 |
is involved in this. And so for you and a lot of other people this mismatch can 00:04:33.080 |
create literal anxiety. The thing we have to do about this put bluntly is sort of 00:04:41.120 |
ignore. I mean we can recognize my brain does this just like my knee hurts when a 00:04:48.920 |
storm is coming. But beyond recognizing it we still go forward. We still go 00:04:55.000 |
forward because let me tell you let's say you get rid of your time block 00:04:58.120 |
planning during the day like let's just rock and roll so I don't have to have 00:05:01.240 |
the anxiety of having something scheduled. You're opening yourself up to a 00:05:04.160 |
much more existential anxiety because you're gonna just ping-pong back and 00:05:08.000 |
forth randomly putting out fires not making progress on things are important 00:05:12.040 |
forgetting about things having to scramble at the last minute to get 00:05:15.000 |
things done. This is not from a physiological perspective or a 00:05:18.680 |
psychological perspective a better subjective experience. It's a deeper 00:05:24.640 |
existential anxiety you're gonna feel. So you're trading one for the other. Same 00:05:28.760 |
thing if you know you don't go to the restaurant. You don't go to the party. 00:05:34.600 |
You're not gonna feel better. You'll get like relief in the moment because you're 00:05:38.520 |
resolving the mismatch but you're not around friends. You're not doing 00:05:40.720 |
interesting things. And you know I get that too Erica. I don't get I don't get 00:05:44.760 |
anxiety around blocks if it's just work I've put aside. I just get normal 00:05:50.160 |
resistance. When you throw a there's different aspects sometimes there's 00:05:54.400 |
social aspects so this might be what you have there might be like a social aspect 00:05:57.720 |
in there where there's a little bit of social anxiety so that could exaggerate 00:06:00.560 |
it. I don't have that so much but I have as I talked about on the show these 00:06:04.640 |
weird deep-rooted issues with surrounding sleep and so I'll sometimes 00:06:10.200 |
get this around events if they're at night. Like you know it's I don't know 00:06:14.560 |
how late it's gonna go and what my sleep and and you know what I've learned to do 00:06:18.040 |
is say okay thank you brain. Welcome anxiety. I'm glad you're here. 00:06:22.040 |
Chemicals. You'll pass soon and I'm gonna go on and keep doing this thing. So 00:06:26.840 |
that's what I say Erica. It's natural. It's not that you shouldn't find it that 00:06:31.280 |
interesting in the sense of like it here this comes it'll go and you make the 00:06:35.280 |
plans that are good. You execute the plans and find pride in your action and 00:06:39.440 |
not give so much attention to the physiological. It's gonna do its thing 00:06:43.480 |
and then Erica you're gonna do your thing. Because more often than not it's 00:06:47.720 |
gonna be like an enjoyable experience to like going to the party or going to the 00:06:51.080 |
gym or yeah and that's what game or that's what I'm trying to separate here 00:06:54.400 |
is like how much how much we're dealing with the the planning mismatch with 00:06:58.680 |
Erica which is a real thing. I mean people sometimes anxiety a lot of times 00:07:02.280 |
just procrastination. It's like really hard for people to get started on things 00:07:06.280 |
that are just that are planned in some sort of abstract or arbitrary system and 00:07:09.440 |
there's also social anxiety and she's mentioned both in the call so I'm 00:07:15.200 |
assuming they're kind of all mixed together. Yeah I mean social anxiety is 00:07:19.200 |
its own its own thing which again is completely natural because our brain is 00:07:22.400 |
so attuned to the sociality that you know a lot of what you know 20th first 00:07:27.760 |
century like social life is not exactly what our brain expects. It expects like 00:07:31.800 |
this is my tribe that I am around all day. Yeah I'm with them all day. It's why 00:07:36.760 |
I'm miserable when I'm alone but if it's strangers and some people I don't know 00:07:41.120 |
and it's in like a bar I haven't been to the brain is like I don't know about 00:07:45.640 |
this. Mm-hmm. Some people care more than others. You have negative social anxiety 00:07:50.240 |
as far as I can tell. You love people and you love doing things. Well I'm around a 00:07:54.480 |
lot of people a lot like in various my other jobs and stuff. Yeah. And yeah I do 00:08:00.520 |
a lot of things too I guess. That's a spectrum. See like probably for you the 00:08:05.440 |
way that wiring is set up is you see the the potential opportunity in a novel 00:08:11.680 |
social environment. Like oh something cool could happen I could meet someone 00:08:14.680 |
interesting maybe I'll see something interesting. Yeah. And for other people it 00:08:17.800 |
will be but what happens if I get there and like I can't find the I can't find 00:08:23.160 |
the person or like as I as I walk into the as I walk into the room like I'm 00:08:28.040 |
immediately you know caught catch on fire or whatever it is. The waiter spills 00:08:32.720 |
water on me. Yeah. Really. I had a friend we used to joke about that when be 00:08:37.880 |
anxious about like going to a bar we'd never been at before and we try to one 00:08:41.440 |
up each other on our predictions for what was going to happen and it would 00:08:45.600 |
usually end up with like as the door open just three or four people already 00:08:50.360 |
at a full sprint are just charging you to take you down and to beat you with 00:08:55.240 |
some sort of like bats or blackjack so that we'd see like how how how 00:08:59.360 |
exaggerated we could make the story that would you know explain some social 00:09:03.960 |
anxiety like as soon as you're in the door it's just going to be like fire boys 00:09:06.920 |
and like immediately or someone with a flamethrower and you know you over the