back to indexScience-Based Tools for Increasing Happiness | Huberman Lab Podcast #98
Chapters
0:0 Happiness
6:27 Tool: Light Exposure Timing & Brightness Timing
14:14 Thesis, InsideTracker, Helix Sleep
17:51 Imprecise Language for Happiness
20:26 Happiness: Neuromodulators & Neurotransmitters
26:32 Harvard Happiness Project
29:22 Income & Happiness; Social Interactions & Peer Group
37:20 Work, Sense of Meaning & Happiness
40:13 Toolkit for General Wellbeing
43:6 Happiness Across the Lifespan, Does Having Children Make Us Happier?
47:33 AG1 (Athletic Greens)
50:20 Birthdays & Evaluated Happiness
52:45 Smoking, Alcohol & Happiness
54:23 Trauma & Happiness, Lottery Winner vs. Paraplegic Accident
65:5 Synthesizing Happiness
69:18 Natural Happiness & Synthetic Happiness; Music
73:45 Tool: Synthesizing Happiness: Effort, Environment & Gratitude
84:50 Tool: Pro-Social Spending/Effort, Happiness
91:55 Tool: Focus, Wandering Mind & Meditation
99:40 Tool: Quality Social Connection
101:28 Brief Social Connection, Facial Recognition & Predictability
106:33 Deep Social Connection, Presence & Eye Contact
114:0 Physical Contact & Social Connection, Allogrooming, Pets
123:0 Freedom & Choice; Synthetic Happiness
131:57 Happiness Toolkit
142:0 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Neural Network Newsletter, Social Media
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where we discuss science and science-based tools 00:00:10.080 |
and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology 00:00:17.480 |
We are going to discuss the science of happiness 00:00:19.640 |
because indeed there are excellent laboratories 00:00:22.720 |
that have worked for many decades to try and understand 00:00:27.600 |
and what brings us happiness in the short and long term. 00:00:31.640 |
In fact, we could probably point to happiness 00:00:36.500 |
or commodities or emotions, whatever you want to call it. 00:00:53.400 |
we can try and describe our states of mind and body, 00:00:56.440 |
but most people recognize the feeling when we have it. 00:00:59.880 |
And we certainly recognize the feeling of not being happy, 00:01:03.400 |
whether or not that means simply not being happy 00:01:05.720 |
as the absence of happiness or all out depression. 00:01:09.560 |
One of the key problems in trying to understand happiness 00:01:12.760 |
and indeed the science and psychology of happiness 00:01:15.720 |
is that it does indeed involve other similar things, 00:01:23.400 |
And indeed, many scientists and psychologists 00:01:34.620 |
Operational definitions are basically agreed upon terms 00:01:41.680 |
that will define something such as happiness, 00:01:46.000 |
probably come up with an operational definition of milk, 00:01:48.680 |
but of course, milk can be cow's milk, it can be oat milk, 00:01:54.100 |
So too, something like happiness can be micro divided 00:01:56.820 |
and sliced and diced into as many things as we decide. 00:02:00.700 |
Today, we are really going to focus on three main things. 00:02:03.700 |
First, we are going to define happiness as a brain state 00:02:09.400 |
We're going to take a look at what the science says 00:02:12.080 |
Second, we are going to talk about tools and practices 00:02:15.140 |
for placing ourselves into states of happiness. 00:02:18.600 |
And while for most of us, we think of happiness as something 00:02:21.580 |
that only arrives through the acquisition of some goal 00:02:25.020 |
or some thing external to us, and of course that is true, 00:02:29.520 |
there is also something called synthetic happiness 00:02:32.180 |
or synthesized happiness, which turns out to be 00:02:34.380 |
at least as powerful and perhaps even more powerful. 00:02:38.020 |
I'll just say right off the bat that I'm not going to tell 00:02:39.900 |
you that all you have to do is sit in a chair 00:02:41.860 |
and imagine being happy in order to feel happy. 00:02:46.140 |
some very concrete steps that have been defined 00:02:50.580 |
So we're going to talk about synthesized happiness 00:02:53.860 |
as it relates to what you can do to obtain happy states 00:02:59.260 |
And then third, we're going to talk about some 00:03:05.700 |
And what I mean by that is most of you have probably heard 00:03:09.180 |
about the general conditions for obtaining happiness. 00:03:13.720 |
of the same basic features of get great sleep, 00:03:17.700 |
have great social connection, pursue meaning, 00:03:20.660 |
don't focus to any overextend on things like pursuing money 00:03:25.660 |
because there are indeed these studies that show 00:03:29.860 |
does not necessarily scale directly with happiness. 00:03:36.540 |
And while all of that literature is very powerful 00:03:39.260 |
and informative, there is what I see as a contradiction, 00:03:51.020 |
there were times in which pursuing and being involved 00:03:54.740 |
in work and pursuing degrees and finding meaning 00:03:57.620 |
in my vocation actually separated me from the opportunity 00:04:03.920 |
or quite as much sleep or quite as much exercise 00:04:06.420 |
or even quite as much sunshine for that matter. 00:04:09.460 |
So all of the things that we're told that we need 00:04:11.640 |
in order to access happiness on a regular basis, 00:04:23.460 |
in order to have things like quality social connection 00:04:26.980 |
and the time and opportunity to get regular exercise 00:04:32.720 |
So again, while this isn't necessarily a complaint 00:04:35.220 |
with any of the research out of the fields of psychology 00:04:38.020 |
on happiness, it is important that we acknowledge 00:05:00.740 |
to the research from psychology, but also the neuroscience. 00:05:04.580 |
And my goal today is really to try and place that all 00:05:07.340 |
into a structured framework so that you can know 00:05:10.620 |
where you are in your journey or the landscape 00:05:13.720 |
around happiness and your pursuit of happiness. 00:05:16.400 |
And what I won't tell you is that you need to abandon 00:05:19.340 |
all goals in terms of pursuing money, career, et cetera, 00:05:28.480 |
an excellent social bond or even an excellent conversation. 00:05:31.760 |
There's excellent research that points to the fact 00:05:41.460 |
on a regular basis, not even requiring close bonds 00:05:48.340 |
that can deliver a tremendous amount of feeling 00:05:55.400 |
So today, again, is really about understanding 00:06:01.780 |
what we call happiness, and providing you a framework 00:06:04.840 |
by which you can pursue and achieve happiness, 00:06:11.360 |
of little micro exercises of gratitude, et cetera, 00:06:21.760 |
what I would call the algorithms that enable us 00:06:24.460 |
or open the opportunity to experience happiness. 00:06:31.840 |
that applies, yes, to our pursuit of happiness, 00:06:36.320 |
including quality sleep and ongoing motivation, et cetera. 00:06:40.200 |
I've talked many, many times before on this podcast 00:06:44.880 |
about the critical value of getting regular bright light, 00:06:52.480 |
or if the sun isn't out when you wake up in the morning, 00:07:03.920 |
Absolutely outsized effects on mood and focus during the day 00:07:15.760 |
and that's to avoid bright artificial light exposure 00:07:18.520 |
to your eyes between the hours of about 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. 00:07:23.600 |
and we have an entire episode devoted to shift work, 00:07:25.760 |
most people are asleep at night and awake during the day, 00:07:28.640 |
and you would be wise to avoid exposure of your eyes 00:07:31.540 |
to bright artificial light between the hours of 10 p.m. 00:07:35.680 |
If you're going to use screens or artificial lights, 00:07:39.820 |
Now, there are several studies that point to the fact 00:07:49.980 |
on the so-called dopaminergic or dopamine circuits 00:07:52.260 |
of the brain and body, which can enhance depression, 00:07:55.540 |
that is, lead to ongoing lower mood and affect. 00:08:00.500 |
or avoid bright lights between 10 p.m. and 4 a.m. 00:08:07.380 |
sometimes even between the hours of 10 p.m. and midnight, 00:08:11.820 |
depending on what's going on in my life or your life, 00:08:17.220 |
Now, it turns out that there are powerful ways to offset 00:08:20.260 |
some, not all, but some of the negative effects 00:08:35.360 |
So one of the issues nowadays that we're really facing 00:08:38.400 |
is that people are simply not getting enough bright light 00:08:44.260 |
and they're getting far too much bright light in their eyes, 00:08:53.060 |
but also in the evening hours from 6 to 10 p.m. 00:08:59.100 |
that's supported by peer-reviewed research in humans 00:09:08.580 |
Now, if you can achieve that through direct sunlight, 00:09:11.240 |
If you can get outside a lot during the daytime, terrific, 00:09:15.340 |
But most people do have some windows in their environment. 00:09:21.380 |
most people are using rather dim artificial lighting indoors 00:09:26.420 |
during the day, and then very bright artificial lighting 00:09:36.980 |
So it's been shown that if you simply increase the amount 00:09:40.000 |
of bright artificial light that you were exposed to 00:09:42.060 |
during the day, and remember, this is not an excuse 00:09:48.740 |
to make your indoor artificial lights very bright, bright, 00:09:53.680 |
and then much dimmer from the hours of 6 PM until bedtime. 00:09:58.240 |
Or if you can't do that, then maybe as soon as you get home 00:10:00.620 |
from about 8 PM until bedtime and then dim them way, 00:10:04.520 |
way down between 10 PM and 4 AM or off entirely, 00:10:10.080 |
for your sleep-wake cycles, focus, mood, et cetera. 00:10:13.040 |
Then what most people do, which is to have a few windows 00:10:15.920 |
in their indoor working environment during the day 00:10:17.880 |
and keep the indoor lights rather dim at a time 00:10:21.440 |
when they need more photons, more light energy, 00:10:31.280 |
which is to get some bright sunlight in your eyes 00:10:38.760 |
It could be in the late afternoon and evening, 00:10:41.700 |
but it's been shown now in studies on humans, 00:10:43.720 |
and I'll provide a link to at least one of those studies, 00:10:46.000 |
that by getting some bright light in your eyes, 00:10:48.560 |
ideally from sunlight in the late afternoon and evening, 00:11:04.480 |
for anywhere from five to 10 minutes or even less, 00:11:09.400 |
can adjust the sensitivity of neurons in your retina 00:11:12.840 |
that communicate light information to the brain 00:11:18.320 |
they aren't going to have as much of a detrimental effect 00:11:21.380 |
on your dopamine system and for impairing your sleep. 00:11:27.080 |
ideally from sunlight, but also from artificial sources 00:11:29.360 |
from the time you wake up in the morning until the evening, 00:11:33.880 |
maybe in the summer months, a little bit later, 00:11:35.480 |
and then really try and get as little bright light 00:11:38.640 |
in your eyes as you can in the evening and nighttime hours. 00:11:43.080 |
And ideally you would also get some sunlight exposure 00:11:47.500 |
right around the time of sunset or in the late afternoon. 00:12:01.440 |
And that will adjust the sensitivity of your retina 00:12:14.560 |
in the middle of the night, try and keep the lights dim. 00:12:17.100 |
Many people have asked whether or not, for instance, 00:12:19.240 |
a nightlight or a flashlight is going to have 00:12:25.000 |
If you think about it, if you shine a light at something, 00:12:34.480 |
But if you were to shine that light in your eyes, 00:12:37.280 |
So yes, of course, if you get up in the middle of the night 00:12:43.040 |
so that you can safely go to where you need to go 00:12:46.200 |
that's going to be far better than turning on the lights 00:12:48.620 |
or, of course, shining light in your eyes, right? 00:13:03.280 |
that will allow you to adjust your retinal sensitivity 00:13:07.660 |
in terms of allowing some nighttime light exposure 00:13:12.000 |
Now, I realize today's episode is about happiness. 00:13:17.580 |
And yet, as we'll talk about more in just a moment, 00:13:23.320 |
and if you are using or being exposed to light, rather, 00:13:32.160 |
for the other sorts of practices that relate to happiness 00:13:36.720 |
So the backdrop, or I would say the kind of landscape 00:13:39.800 |
of your chemicals and your hormones is powerfully controlled 00:13:47.680 |
In particular, your exposure to light to your eyes 00:13:50.440 |
is something that you have a lot of control over. 00:13:56.300 |
And it's been proven that even these small steps, 00:14:04.660 |
can allow you to greatly adjust your neurochemistry 00:14:08.200 |
and your hormones in the direction of better mood, 00:14:17.500 |
from my teaching and research roles at Stanford. 00:14:28.120 |
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Now, I want to start by quoting a previous guest 00:18:09.100 |
at Stanford School of Medicine, Dr. Carl Deisseroth, 00:18:15.660 |
That is, he's a psychiatrist who spends a lot of his time 00:18:19.220 |
both running a laboratory and seeing patients, 00:18:23.980 |
And I once was at a meeting where I heard Carl say 00:18:38.320 |
several different things about the way that the brain works 00:18:51.300 |
things like the word happiness or joy or meaning 00:18:56.040 |
or pleasure or delight are actually not very precise 00:19:00.420 |
when it comes to describing our brain and body states. 00:19:03.380 |
So for instance, if I tell you I'm feeling pretty happy, 00:19:07.340 |
I know what that means for me, at least in this moment, 00:19:13.260 |
it means the same thing as what pretty happy means for you. 00:19:16.980 |
If I say I'm extremely happy and I have a big grin, 00:19:23.220 |
well, then you might get a sense of how much happier I am 00:19:33.060 |
And the same is true for you and for everybody else. 00:19:35.580 |
And it's important for us to acknowledge this 00:19:37.540 |
because at this point in human history, 2022, 00:19:41.860 |
we don't really have a measurement like body temperature 00:19:51.360 |
in the brain and body that give us anything better 00:19:54.300 |
than a crude correlate or an estimate at best 00:20:06.140 |
a strong data-driven conversation about happiness 00:20:34.180 |
things like glutamate and GABA, for instance, 00:20:55.960 |
are always present in a cocktail in our brain and body. 00:21:00.060 |
That is, they are present in different ratios 00:21:03.640 |
So we need to completely discard with the idea 00:21:05.940 |
that any one neurotransmitter or any one neuromodulator 00:21:10.440 |
is solely responsible for a state of happiness 00:21:13.980 |
or for a lack of state of happiness for that matter. 00:21:23.740 |
of, for instance, dopamine, their levels of happiness, 00:21:27.840 |
or we should say their self-reported levels of happiness 00:21:32.840 |
that have greatly elevated baseline levels of dopamine. 00:21:36.500 |
Now, this can be best appreciated at the extremes 00:21:40.080 |
where, for instance, in conditions like Parkinson's disease 00:21:43.720 |
or other conditions where people's levels of dopamine 00:21:48.700 |
Mind you, we also see this in drug addicted individuals 00:21:56.720 |
that normally stimulates release of dopamine. 00:21:58.420 |
Think the cocaine addict who can't get cocaine 00:22:05.880 |
or the Parkinson's patient who has fewer dopamine neurons 00:22:11.760 |
Those individuals do tend to be more depressed. 00:22:17.440 |
At least that's how they report themselves to be emotionally. 00:22:20.720 |
And that's what we observe when we look at them behaviorally 00:22:30.140 |
and while still focusing on the kind of pathology 00:22:33.140 |
of neurotransmitter and neuromodulator systems, 00:22:35.640 |
an individual who is in a manic phase of bipolar 00:22:40.040 |
will tend to have very elevated levels of dopamine. 00:22:46.280 |
And at least to them, every idea is an exciting idea 00:22:50.480 |
We did an entire episode about bipolar depression, 00:23:00.560 |
of course you can find at Hubermanlab.com in all formats. 00:23:08.780 |
are correlated with certain states of, for instance, 00:23:15.720 |
We could even call it depression in some cases, 00:23:25.260 |
or sometimes called bipolar mania or bipolar disorder. 00:23:34.780 |
And most people fortunately reside somewhere in that range. 00:23:40.380 |
And I think it's safe to say that levels of dopamine 00:23:43.020 |
probably do correlate with levels of happiness, 00:23:45.420 |
but there is no one single chemical nor chemical signature 00:23:50.380 |
that is no specific recipe of two parts dopamine 00:23:55.380 |
to one part serotonin to one part acetylcholine 00:24:11.180 |
or maybe doesn't even correlate with depression at all. 00:24:24.920 |
their levels of serotonin can sometimes be normal. 00:24:33.560 |
that increase levels of serotonin in depressed people 00:24:40.700 |
And I should mention that many of the selective serotonin 00:24:49.940 |
for conditions like OCD and so on and so forth. 00:24:52.960 |
But what I'm trying to do is make two important points. 00:24:55.420 |
First of all, that language is not a great indicator 00:25:00.420 |
of internal state, especially when trying to understand 00:25:05.060 |
and that is especially true for things like happiness, 00:25:08.380 |
and that there is no one chemical signature of happiness. 00:25:15.180 |
or combinations of neuromodulators that we can say 00:25:26.300 |
tend to be chronically low for an individual, 00:25:34.460 |
and have lower mood and less episodes of happiness 00:25:37.260 |
per day, per week, per month, per year, et cetera. 00:25:40.440 |
Conversely, when an individual has elevations 00:25:48.660 |
which include epinephrine and norepinephrine, 00:25:56.500 |
they all lead to states of elevated motivation, 00:26:02.020 |
When those chemicals are elevated above baseline, 00:26:04.860 |
people do tend to have elevated sense of mood and wellbeing, 00:26:23.540 |
and in particular about the controlled experiments 00:26:26.940 |
that have been done in excellent laboratories 00:26:33.540 |
There have been some excellent studies on happiness, 00:26:49.620 |
and the papers are submitted and published and discussed. 00:26:53.560 |
The other form is a so-called longitudinal study 00:26:58.140 |
and they are studied over a very long period of time 00:27:01.020 |
ranging from months to years and sometimes even decades. 00:27:06.020 |
And then the variables of age, life circumstances, 00:27:12.060 |
and other factors can be incorporated into the data. 00:27:19.020 |
there's data published throughout the longitudinal study, 00:27:28.580 |
and perhaps the longest running longitudinal study 00:27:33.240 |
This is a study that was initiated or conceived in 1938 00:28:02.700 |
or for whatever reason are no longer participating 00:28:06.180 |
there are very few of these individuals left. 00:28:08.220 |
And yet there's tremendous power to a study like this. 00:28:11.780 |
And we're all so grateful that laboratories at Harvard 00:28:19.700 |
perhaps the study that has allowed us to understand 00:28:23.060 |
happiness in our species over a very long period of time. 00:28:32.560 |
or matching by vocation or matching by income and background. 00:28:35.740 |
And back then there was also a lot less discussion 00:28:40.420 |
as well as positive episodes in people's lives. 00:28:42.980 |
Nonetheless, there's a lot of power in a study like this. 00:29:03.980 |
are able to think back on not just their previous year 00:29:07.540 |
or week, but 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 50 years ago, 00:29:15.900 |
A number of things have emerged from that conversation. 00:29:18.340 |
So I just want to discuss some of the highlight points. 00:29:23.900 |
First of all, it's been discussed many, many times 00:29:37.380 |
does not seem to directly relate to their level of happiness. 00:29:47.780 |
Other people hear that point and think to themselves, 00:29:51.540 |
yeah, right, easy to say if you have a lot of money. 00:29:54.620 |
We'll talk about the interpretation of those data 00:30:00.900 |
because I agree that while money or total resources itself 00:30:05.900 |
does not predict happiness in any kind of direct way, 00:30:13.320 |
having very few resources will make you happier, of course. 00:30:18.580 |
But it also tends to overlook an important point, 00:30:22.060 |
which is something that I certainly have learned 00:30:27.620 |
when I was a student and postdoc, which is the following. 00:30:33.500 |
and we'll talk about the buy aspect of that in a moment. 00:30:44.260 |
once people get past a certain level of income 00:30:48.860 |
the amount of happiness does not scale with that income. 00:30:52.580 |
That is for every additional $1,000 or $10,000 that they earn, 00:30:56.640 |
they don't report being that much happier on a daily basis. 00:31:12.700 |
in the form of the ability to purchase or pay for 00:31:16.900 |
goods and services, and in particular services. 00:31:19.580 |
You're not going to tell me that having children 00:31:24.300 |
doesn't involve some increase in the demands on your life, 00:31:37.680 |
or even night nurses if you're having trouble sleeping 00:31:44.700 |
often give excellent care, one hopes excellent care, 00:31:54.140 |
but I certainly experienced this during graduate school. 00:31:57.200 |
In fact, I experienced both sides of the equation here. 00:31:59.820 |
I made very little money as a graduate student. 00:32:02.340 |
I had essentially no savings when I started graduate school 00:32:08.220 |
but I could just barely afford rent and my food, 00:32:26.820 |
but at the same time I was in laboratory all the time 00:32:31.460 |
And so my level of stress was actually pretty low 00:32:34.020 |
because I was investing all my time and energy 00:32:35.960 |
into the very thing that I knew would eventually 00:32:40.680 |
When I moved from being a graduate student to a postdoc, 00:33:03.920 |
but because of where I moved and because of the times, 00:33:14.680 |
It was my absolute income relative to my cost of living. 00:33:20.400 |
when considering income versus cost of living 00:33:25.980 |
And we're going to talk more about social bonds 00:33:30.280 |
from being a graduate student to a postdoc was 00:33:38.360 |
to participate in most, if not all, of the social gatherings 00:33:43.240 |
People tended to aggregate at the farmer's market on Saturday. 00:33:51.360 |
People would sometimes play pickup games of soccer 00:33:57.700 |
Sometimes people would go out to eat that evening, 00:34:03.860 |
and social connections and peer group interactions 00:34:12.400 |
When I transitioned to being a postdoc, I made more money, 00:34:24.940 |
that people in that larger city were engaged in. 00:34:28.380 |
So peer group has a tremendously powerful influence 00:34:31.260 |
on whether or not we gauge the amount of money that we have 00:34:37.620 |
And that really speaks to the critical importance 00:34:41.220 |
and certain kinds of social interactions in particular. 00:34:46.780 |
it's not just about being able to pay your rent. 00:34:51.380 |
the kinds of social interactions that you deem 00:34:54.300 |
are quote unquote correct for you at that stage of life 00:34:58.900 |
and in the place where you happen to be living. 00:35:00.920 |
Because if you can meet all the demands of costs of rent 00:35:04.820 |
and paying your power bill and food, et cetera, 00:35:07.660 |
but you are socially isolated because your peer group 00:35:11.420 |
or those around you that you want to engage with 00:35:15.340 |
that you either don't have time for literally 00:35:20.100 |
or that you don't have the financial resources for, 00:35:31.900 |
because I think that most of us have heard the outcome 00:35:43.520 |
from Dan Gilbert's laboratory and other laboratories 00:35:47.560 |
And I certainly don't want to take anything away 00:35:57.820 |
In fact, it tends not to past a certain level. 00:36:04.180 |
I think actually it would be inappropriate for me to say 00:36:06.360 |
that the amount of income that one makes is not important 00:36:09.900 |
because if the amount of money that you happen to have 00:36:13.420 |
or are making does not allow you to meet your basic needs 00:36:23.760 |
the kind of social interactions that can renew and reset, 00:36:30.540 |
the kind of neurotransmitter systems and hormones 00:36:32.960 |
that lead us to feel that we are happy in our life 00:36:40.360 |
And this brings me back to the statement I made earlier, 00:37:22.180 |
of the Harvard longitudinal study on happiness 00:37:44.880 |
as one that we need to parse a bit more carefully 00:37:47.920 |
because work, last time I checked and certainly for me, 00:37:52.340 |
is the way typically that people earn an income. 00:37:57.520 |
income is often a way that people have access 00:38:03.740 |
to things like recreation that opens up the opportunity 00:38:11.420 |
with how we interpret these blanket statements 00:38:22.540 |
that if you earn more money from working more 00:38:28.760 |
that bring more opportunities for social connection 00:38:31.440 |
or for buffering stress in other areas of your life, 00:38:33.840 |
including healthcare, care for your children, 00:38:36.800 |
care for yourself, recreation, other things that you enjoy, 00:38:43.020 |
to assume that work itself is somehow counter to happiness, 00:38:50.080 |
And it especially isn't if we combine that feature of work 00:38:54.660 |
with another important feature of the human psyche, 00:39:00.440 |
we will do an episode of this podcast on meaning 00:39:03.400 |
and what constitutes meaning in a given endeavor, 00:39:07.280 |
But much of the psychology of the last century 00:39:11.360 |
and still today focuses on this feature of meaning 00:39:14.380 |
as a critical one in terms of what makes us happy 00:39:21.480 |
And I can certainly say for myself that learning 00:39:23.840 |
and teaching and doing research in my laboratory 00:39:26.360 |
brings me tremendous feeling of meaning and happiness. 00:39:48.240 |
or that work is not as important as we deem it to be, 00:39:55.560 |
And again, by no means am I trying to undermine the data 00:39:59.460 |
both the longitudinal and short-term studies, 00:40:06.360 |
because the internet is replete with conversations 00:40:10.000 |
about the big factors that determine happiness. 00:40:13.920 |
It's going to be social connection, not income. 00:40:19.100 |
that you are able to have open thinking and creativity, 00:40:23.080 |
which I think is an essential feature of happiness, 00:40:25.940 |
Physical health, in particular one's ability to stay mobile 00:40:30.940 |
and to be able to access the kind of daily activities 00:40:36.420 |
is a strong correlate of happiness and so on and so on. 00:40:40.220 |
And of course there are the basic physiology factors, 00:40:44.080 |
the things that feed back onto our overall feelings 00:40:51.680 |
You can think of this as a toolkit of things that you 00:40:54.560 |
and everyone really should be constantly trying to access, 00:40:59.660 |
because they raise the tide or what I would call 00:41:05.760 |
And that would be getting sufficient deep sleep 00:41:12.600 |
you're not getting deep sleep or as much of it 00:41:17.400 |
Quality nutrition, quality social interactions, 00:41:22.720 |
In fact, we will define that in a lot of detail 00:41:24.520 |
later in this episode and actually how to get better 00:41:35.160 |
we have social interactions, we have purposeful work, 00:41:38.160 |
whether or not it's paid work or non-paid work. 00:41:43.960 |
and maybe relationships to pets and things of that sort. 00:41:49.040 |
All of those are known to increase your overall state 00:41:54.300 |
to access more meaning and happiness, et cetera. 00:41:57.000 |
But for most people, I think it's fair to say 00:41:59.620 |
that earning a living and earning a living by working 00:42:03.840 |
is the typical way in which we spend most of our time. 00:42:10.540 |
And it's something we'll return to a little bit later 00:42:12.600 |
in terms of trying to understand how periods of life 00:42:15.400 |
in which there are big or extensive work demands 00:42:19.160 |
or extensive family demands on us are indeed compatible 00:42:22.880 |
with states of happiness or frequent states of happiness 00:42:30.300 |
or the amount of time at work really isn't important. 00:42:33.280 |
That's not what people are going to pay attention to. 00:42:35.100 |
In fact, I don't know how I will feel on my deathbed. 00:42:39.200 |
Human beings are pretty good about understanding 00:42:43.000 |
If not describing it, they are pretty good at feeling it. 00:42:52.460 |
We're pretty good about describing our past feelings, 00:42:57.160 |
at least in broad contour, but we are not very good 00:43:00.700 |
at projecting how we will feel in the future. 00:43:02.760 |
And in fact, that's a theme that's going to come up 00:43:09.600 |
of really solid data are that certain aspects 00:43:13.920 |
of our wellbeing tend to change across our lifespan. 00:43:17.180 |
Now, lifespan is something that we need to consider 00:43:20.780 |
from also a bit of nuance because humans are indeed 00:43:27.820 |
across the lifespan dated maybe 30 or 40 years back 00:43:32.120 |
or even 20 years ago, it is consistently described 00:43:35.740 |
in that literature as a so-called U-shaped function 00:43:38.760 |
where people in their 20s report being very, very happy. 00:43:43.580 |
But as time goes on and they acquire more responsibility, 00:43:49.080 |
so typically getting married and having children 00:43:51.640 |
in their mid to late 20s and 30s and into their 40s, 00:44:07.440 |
and they tended to retire and their work demands 00:44:09.700 |
were shed from them and they were able to enjoy 00:44:11.740 |
the small things of life, despite the fact that in general, 00:44:18.200 |
is not as vigorous when they're 70 as it is when they're 20. 00:44:23.480 |
And of course you can adjust the rate of cognitive 00:44:27.120 |
But in general, people in their 20s feel more physically 00:44:38.240 |
but of course there've been some major shifts 00:44:46.000 |
For instance, many people are getting married much later. 00:44:52.140 |
on whether or not people have children or not 00:45:06.820 |
and raising kids while hard is a wonderful experience. 00:45:23.280 |
as lower than that of people who opt not to have children. 00:45:28.200 |
Now, there are a lot of ways to interpret those findings 00:45:45.520 |
to things more focused on themselves or their partner 00:45:50.500 |
We don't know if that's the underlying reason. 00:46:06.560 |
what the underlying reasons are for this finding, 00:46:08.840 |
but it does seem that despite most every parent 00:46:12.480 |
reporting that their kids are their greatest source of joy 00:46:19.140 |
are at least as happy or report being at least as happy 00:46:22.560 |
or even happier than those that opt to have children. 00:46:32.260 |
about whether or not people should have children or not. 00:46:34.140 |
I happen to find children and animals delightful, 00:46:37.300 |
and I'm always happy when people opt to have children, 00:46:40.780 |
provided they are taking good care of their children 00:46:53.440 |
about whether or not the population of the earth 00:46:58.740 |
Indeed, many areas of the world birth rates are going down. 00:47:08.740 |
but logical perspective of whether or not child diapers 00:47:13.740 |
are selling at the same rate as they were some years ago, 00:47:16.580 |
and whether or not adult diapers for the elderly 00:47:26.980 |
people are living longer and/or opting to have children. 00:47:35.300 |
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that is the rising of the U again in their later years, 00:49:05.100 |
and repeated in a way that takes into account 00:49:13.620 |
that people are tending to get married later. 00:49:22.060 |
should have a bump down at the bottom of the U 00:49:26.080 |
because the argument was made in the discussion 00:49:28.600 |
of those papers that the reason why happiness is lower 00:49:35.600 |
to raising their children and devoting more time to work. 00:49:43.560 |
And many people, even if they do enjoy their work 00:49:46.080 |
and they find meaning in it, still find it stressful, 00:49:48.960 |
which certainly can run counter to happiness. 00:49:55.280 |
because a number of people are opting perhaps to work less 00:50:00.520 |
where they find tremendous meaning from their work, 00:50:02.240 |
that there would be a bump at the bottom of that U 00:50:04.440 |
among those that decided to simply not take on 00:50:12.160 |
of whether or not the total load of responsibility 00:50:16.160 |
is really what's correlating with reported happiness or not. 00:50:25.720 |
It's a little bit of a pop psychology finding, 00:50:27.440 |
but I think it points to something interesting 00:50:38.800 |
And the argument for why this is is the following, 00:50:46.920 |
not comparing ourselves to our peers terribly much. 00:50:52.380 |
when we're in elementary school, high school, et cetera, 00:50:54.540 |
when we're sort of age match, maybe even college as well. 00:50:57.040 |
But an evaluation of ourselves to our age match peers 00:51:00.360 |
is not typically something that we do on a daily basis. 00:51:05.320 |
we get a snapshot of where we are in the arc of time, 00:51:10.640 |
And many people report feeling rather low on their birthday 00:51:14.280 |
because they use that as a benchmark or a window 00:51:17.900 |
into the things that they have not accomplished, 00:51:26.800 |
because of what it really points to is two things. 00:51:28.780 |
One, the extent to which much of our feelings of happiness 00:51:32.140 |
are relative, in particular relative to our peers. 00:51:49.540 |
but that most of us are not very good at reflecting 00:51:58.940 |
I mean, very few people live past the age of 100. 00:52:11.140 |
But in general, people report that on their birthdays, 00:52:14.380 |
and I should say these are for birthdays aged 25 or later, 00:52:19.220 |
at least in the studies I was able to access, right? 00:52:23.560 |
sit around comparing themselves to other three-year-olds 00:52:27.780 |
You can imagine some people might do that at 18, et cetera. 00:52:32.500 |
that people start evaluating themselves to their peers 00:52:35.000 |
in terms of life progression and so-called milestones. 00:52:38.160 |
It's been argued that that's one of the reasons 00:52:43.480 |
something that's a little bit counterintuitive. 00:52:48.940 |
I'd be remiss if I didn't mention a few of these. 00:52:52.860 |
The Harvard Happiness Project has reported, for instance, 00:52:56.640 |
that people that are chronic smokers of nicotine 00:53:05.560 |
or what's sometimes called alcohol use disorder, 00:53:08.620 |
that is strongly anti-correlated with happiness. 00:53:11.220 |
And I should also mention that the family members 00:53:13.340 |
and in particular, the romantic partners of people 00:53:15.700 |
who are chronic smokers and the partners of people 00:53:24.740 |
especially if they themselves are not chronic smokers 00:53:31.380 |
So we've done episodes on nicotine in particular, 00:53:41.700 |
Again, you can find those at hubermanlab.com. 00:53:43.960 |
This study from the Harvard Happiness Project 00:53:50.080 |
that avoiding being a nicotine smoker, right? 00:53:52.780 |
There are positive health effects of nicotine 00:53:54.900 |
that are discussed in the episode on nicotine, 00:53:56.660 |
but smoking nicotine in particular is counterproductive 00:54:01.020 |
for people's at least self-reported happiness 00:54:06.900 |
that smoking increases cancers of different kinds 00:54:16.420 |
two drinks being the typical volume of a beer, 00:54:21.060 |
is detrimental for various aspects of health. 00:54:23.600 |
And of course, there are other things that you could imagine 00:54:28.100 |
For instance, a major trauma, physical or emotional trauma. 00:54:32.460 |
That could include the loss of a major relationship, 00:54:36.980 |
being the victim of a violent crime and things of that sort. 00:54:40.300 |
And yet it's been argued, in fact strongly argued, 00:54:44.220 |
that when you look at people's levels of happiness 00:54:47.980 |
after a trauma, that if you wait about a year or so, 00:54:52.980 |
sometimes even as short as three months after a trauma, 00:54:57.700 |
that people's self-reported levels of happiness 00:55:04.520 |
Now, I very much want to highlight, underline, 00:55:10.980 |
as one that we really need to explore carefully 00:55:15.480 |
that strongly point to the fact that major life traumas 00:55:18.840 |
can severely disrupt one's sense of happiness and wellbeing. 00:55:22.320 |
And I think as long as we're going to have this discussion, 00:55:24.200 |
we should point to a useful definition of trauma. 00:55:35.480 |
who's a psychiatrist who's written a book called "Trauma." 00:55:38.640 |
I personally think it's the best book on trauma 00:55:43.440 |
It's incredibly thorough, easy to read, and well-informed. 00:55:56.600 |
in a way that makes other aspects of living more challenging. 00:56:00.620 |
Again, an event, either emotional or physical or both, 00:56:03.940 |
that fundamentally changes the way that our brain 00:56:06.620 |
and/or body, our nervous system and other organs function 00:56:11.620 |
in a way that prevents us from enjoying daily activities. 00:56:15.880 |
And that could even be ongoing distraction, right? 00:56:24.100 |
Again, check out that episode with Dr. Paul Conte 00:56:31.980 |
by a number of researchers in the field of happiness 00:56:37.080 |
people aren't reporting that they are feeling 00:56:43.220 |
So I went into this literature a bit more deeply. 00:56:46.240 |
One of the basis of that general line of thinking 00:56:49.640 |
is what I consider now classic and very important 00:56:55.640 |
by Professor Dan Gilbert on the science of happiness. 00:57:01.680 |
I say a classic one because it was done some years ago. 00:57:06.700 |
And one of the points that he makes in that talk, 00:57:18.780 |
Would you rather be someone who wins the lottery? 00:57:21.520 |
And he shows a picture of somebody who just won, 00:57:23.260 |
I think it was several hundreds of millions of dollars 00:57:24.960 |
in the lottery, or was recently made paraplegic, 00:57:39.940 |
is that their self-reported levels of happiness 00:57:42.800 |
are the same, which I think is incredibly surprising. 00:57:46.620 |
Now, I heard this and I immediately thought of an experience 00:57:53.760 |
at Stanford School of Medicine on neural regeneration. 00:57:57.180 |
And it's actually a course that I attended some years ago 00:58:13.480 |
and he had become paraplegic fairly late in life 00:58:28.140 |
doing volunteer work with people who have become paraplegic 00:58:31.560 |
and have become paraplegic at different ages. 00:58:33.560 |
And what he described to me was that the overall outcomes 00:58:40.120 |
in terms of their mental health and their physical wellbeing 00:58:43.820 |
and their sort of management of general life skills 00:58:50.400 |
and how long they had the use of their limbs. 00:58:54.020 |
When I heard this result described by Dr. Dan Gilbert 00:59:00.220 |
that winning the lottery and becoming paraplegic 00:59:02.440 |
basically don't impact your levels of happiness 00:59:17.080 |
indeed there are people who are rendered paraplegic 00:59:25.160 |
But for other people, it can be severely disrupting 00:59:28.400 |
to their sense of wellbeing and so on and so forth. 00:59:43.720 |
I think 2019 is a specific date in which it was recorded, 00:59:48.920 |
And indeed he corrects himself in that podcast. 00:59:53.180 |
What he says is that he misspoke in that earlier talk 00:59:57.160 |
that the difference in self-reported levels of happiness 01:00:24.000 |
especially given the tremendous amount of money. 01:00:26.360 |
And again, the fact that money can't buy happiness, 01:00:29.480 |
but that money does indeed enable the ability 01:00:36.080 |
and just didn't blow it or spend it all right away, 01:00:42.800 |
but also the ability to hire help that would free up time, 01:00:45.800 |
that would allow them to do anything from travel 01:00:48.460 |
that they couldn't access before to meditate, 01:00:50.380 |
if that was something that they didn't have time to do before 01:00:56.600 |
that winners of the lottery and recent paraplegics 01:00:59.640 |
have the same levels of happiness is actually not true, 01:01:02.280 |
at least according to the author of the original study. 01:01:09.440 |
but he did point to the direction of the result 01:01:11.320 |
and the fact that people who are rendered paraplegic, 01:01:13.380 |
in fact, are reporting themselves as less happy 01:01:22.220 |
are lower than those that simply won the lottery, 01:01:37.220 |
And indeed, Dan Gilbert is an excellent scientist 01:01:40.480 |
and was quite good about trying to correct the narrative. 01:01:44.360 |
I myself as a podcaster who puts information on the internet 01:01:47.720 |
know that the challenges of correcting narratives, 01:01:50.160 |
especially of things that came out some time ago, 01:02:00.180 |
So my hope is that Dr. Gilbert will interpret 01:02:07.200 |
but rather as an attempt to praise his willingness 01:02:09.440 |
to try and correct the narrative to be more accurate. 01:02:12.040 |
So to be very clear about what this study did 01:02:14.160 |
and didn't show, and here I'm going to combine these results 01:02:26.940 |
but traumas of a different sort, emotional traumas. 01:02:32.760 |
at least my read is that when people win the lottery 01:02:39.480 |
some form of wealth acquisition that is sudden 01:02:42.200 |
and that wasn't preceded by a specific effort 01:02:45.840 |
Buying a lottery ticket is a pretty quick thing. 01:02:51.040 |
by virtue of who you are, not necessarily by effort. 01:02:54.440 |
Well, that led to increases in self-reported happiness 01:02:59.440 |
compared to prior to the inheritance of the lottery win, 01:03:02.460 |
but it wasn't as substantial as you might imagine 01:03:05.920 |
if you're approaching the notion of happiness 01:03:08.880 |
simply from, well, more money equals more happiness. 01:03:22.400 |
are and, frankly, are remarkably resilient in many cases, 01:03:28.140 |
they can still manage to go about life and work 01:03:33.840 |
there is a visible decrease in overall levels 01:03:42.800 |
renders their nervous system different in a way 01:03:51.800 |
And that's certainly true one year out from the trauma. 01:03:54.800 |
So the point is that we do need to reframe this idea 01:03:59.120 |
or become paraplegic or suffer some major trauma, 01:04:01.560 |
your levels of happiness are going to be the same 01:04:09.480 |
that that's not accurate even in that initial study. 01:04:22.600 |
combined with the idea that we are happy earlier in life, 01:04:29.400 |
we become less happy and then we become happy again. 01:04:36.340 |
and people in their early 20s are pretty unhappy 01:04:52.280 |
that we've heard over and over while they have merit 01:04:54.340 |
and they certainly stand up in some of the more powerful 01:05:02.600 |
that are causing us to revise those understandings. 01:05:14.600 |
and that we owe them a great debt of gratitude for 01:05:21.380 |
over our levels of happiness than we might think. 01:05:24.240 |
And many of the things that reside at that level of control, 01:05:29.200 |
that is the things that we can do and think and say 01:05:32.080 |
and access don't come from external things, right? 01:05:44.360 |
that can allow us to so-called synthesize happiness. 01:05:50.080 |
of modern psychology is that Dan Gilbert and others, 01:05:54.200 |
the Harvard Happiness Project work at Yale and elsewhere, 01:05:57.440 |
right, there are excellent labs working on happiness 01:05:59.560 |
all over the US and all over the world, frankly. 01:06:03.600 |
One of the great gifts that they've supplied us 01:06:05.520 |
in the form of data is that there really are things 01:06:11.160 |
to allow ourselves to so-called synthesize happiness. 01:06:17.140 |
or synthetic happiness as it's sometimes called 01:06:22.200 |
because people immediately flip to the idea that, 01:06:26.240 |
oh, you're just going to tell me to be grateful 01:06:32.960 |
But that's really not what synthetic happiness 01:06:52.240 |
things like the hedonic set point, for instance, 01:06:55.120 |
or the dopamine system of anticipation of rewards 01:07:02.600 |
our anticipation of something positive oftentimes leads 01:07:06.940 |
to greater increases in the sorts of neurochemicals 01:07:09.600 |
that support a state of happiness and wellbeing 01:07:17.040 |
And this goes back to a theme I've discussed a few times 01:07:22.720 |
at Stanford School of Medicine, Dr. Anna Lemke, 01:07:24.600 |
who wrote the fabulous book "Dopamine Nation." 01:07:26.880 |
If you're interested in dopamine and addiction in particular, 01:07:29.800 |
that's a wonderful, clear, and extremely informative read. 01:07:34.800 |
And if you're interested in dopamine more generally, 01:07:39.480 |
but in everyday life and in pursuit and motivation, 01:07:42.480 |
"The Molecule of More" is an excellent book related to that. 01:07:46.600 |
we have this episode on dopamine motivation and drive. 01:07:49.680 |
The notion of synthetic happiness is not simply 01:07:54.680 |
about imagining happiness or thinking about happiness 01:08:00.280 |
but it relates to a number of other important themes, 01:08:09.140 |
And I'll talk about some of that neurobiology 01:08:33.400 |
and perhaps the more potent form of happiness 01:08:37.120 |
And this is where themes related to our control 01:08:42.720 |
really become not only valid, but very powerful. 01:08:53.800 |
that is freedom, can and can't lead to states of happiness. 01:08:57.740 |
And the results of those studies are very solid 01:09:05.860 |
I think you will immediately see areas of your own life 01:09:11.180 |
Again, genuine happiness simply by framing certain choices 01:09:15.360 |
in a particular way and maybe even by eliminating choices. 01:09:18.740 |
Now I'd like to focus on the research aimed at understanding 01:09:27.680 |
The first theme is so-called natural happiness. 01:09:34.800 |
So the kind of happiness that we expect to have 01:09:42.520 |
and interesting to us, but a degree nonetheless, 01:09:47.620 |
hopefully a mate that we enjoy spending time with, 01:09:52.120 |
or finding work that we enjoy on a regular basis. 01:10:06.520 |
and those presents are going to be focused on knowledge 01:10:11.400 |
So if you're a little kid and you like trucks 01:10:17.160 |
will bring you some level of joy or happiness. 01:10:24.960 |
is of course one that persists into adolescence, 01:10:31.640 |
And we quite understandably come to associate 01:10:37.120 |
with the receiving of things or the acquisition of things, 01:10:45.540 |
And yet, as I mentioned a little bit earlier, 01:10:48.560 |
there's also this notion of synthetic happiness. 01:10:51.400 |
And some of the more interesting and exciting research 01:10:53.760 |
in the fields of psychology and in fact neuroscience 01:10:59.800 |
as at least as powerful a source of happiness 01:11:05.460 |
Again, at least as powerful and perhaps even more powerful. 01:11:09.420 |
And of course, one has to take a slightly different view 01:11:11.980 |
of what happiness is in order to accept this idea 01:11:20.200 |
of synthetic happiness is merely a passive one 01:11:22.700 |
where all we do is sit back and imagine being happy 01:11:28.880 |
and our neurochemistry simply don't work that way. 01:11:32.180 |
In fact, synthetic happiness has almost always 01:11:34.560 |
been understood as something that we have to put 01:11:39.000 |
But, and this is an important thing to point out, 01:11:42.360 |
synthetic happiness also requires that certain situational 01:11:52.100 |
by Jillian Mandich, or I should say Dr. Jillian Mandich, 01:11:55.720 |
who's done some interesting work on the conditions 01:12:03.400 |
And she's been involved in a number of different studies, 01:12:06.220 |
but one of the ones that I found particularly interesting 01:12:08.840 |
is one in which they explored different types of music 01:12:37.120 |
If you recall, for those of you that have seen "Jaws," 01:12:41.960 |
Anytime the shark might be present in the water 01:12:45.640 |
or in a given scene, that essentially goes... 01:12:52.960 |
and things that are understood from the mathematics 01:12:55.400 |
and the musical side, and from the neuroscience side 01:12:58.560 |
are known to create a neural state of anticipation. 01:13:07.040 |
And indeed, there are other patterns of music 01:13:12.640 |
Think some of the music that's typically been used 01:13:20.580 |
Indeed, there's a whole literature of psychological 01:13:23.220 |
and now even a smaller but still interesting literature 01:13:26.800 |
on the neuroscience of how certain patterns of music 01:13:34.200 |
A lot of those patterns of music are incorporated 01:13:36.840 |
into so-called happy cartoons and Disney movies 01:13:41.240 |
In any case, Dr. Mandich and others have explored 01:13:47.720 |
of the environment can or cannot induce states of happiness. 01:13:53.220 |
is that while having a certain environmental sound, 01:13:58.220 |
musical tone or visual feature to a given space, a room, 01:14:09.720 |
What is required is that individuals not only be placed 01:14:14.100 |
into an environment that contains music or visual items 01:14:25.660 |
but that they also are given some sort of instruction 01:14:29.600 |
or instruction manual as to how to synthesize happiness 01:14:37.920 |
is that our ability to create states of happiness 01:14:50.400 |
so it could be social deprivation or financial deprivation, 01:14:53.400 |
or even for people that are very sensitive to weather, 01:14:58.520 |
about 30% of people who report feeling very, very low 01:15:05.360 |
especially if it's been overcast for a number of days, 01:15:17.340 |
and if they can't get sunlight, artificial light 01:15:21.520 |
But in any case, there are a number of people 01:15:28.520 |
by the lack of positive visual and auditory cues 01:15:42.200 |
but the research indicates that we also need to make 01:15:47.540 |
Now, effort toward being happy is a very vague term, 01:15:55.640 |
this took the form of doing so-called happiness 01:15:59.960 |
That can be focusing on things that one is grateful for, 01:16:05.900 |
This is somewhat of a gratitude type practice, 01:16:11.180 |
that are more focused on the things that bring you meaning 01:16:33.960 |
that I had as a postdoc and in my own laboratory 01:16:38.280 |
when I first started my lab was I love aquaria, 01:16:52.240 |
but freshwater tanks with discus fish, for instance, 01:17:05.120 |
but having either silence, if you love silence, 01:17:14.520 |
or I particularly like listening to Glenn Gould 01:17:21.620 |
because it doesn't have any structure that I can follow. 01:17:25.860 |
but it fills the space in a way that I find pleasant, 01:17:30.820 |
into making my laboratory spaces and my office spaces, 01:17:39.120 |
from Dr. Mandich and others at the time when I did that, 01:17:44.160 |
I was challenged in maintaining a kind of elevated mood 01:17:49.440 |
not because I didn't thoroughly enjoy the work. 01:17:56.360 |
as a graduate student and postdoc, there were no windows, 01:18:07.800 |
to create an environment both at work and at home 01:18:15.020 |
and I realize people have varying levels of control 01:18:19.780 |
Certainly the auditory environment can be controlled 01:18:24.980 |
So for instance, using music or using background sound 01:18:30.280 |
combined with a concerted effort on your part 01:18:37.300 |
by hopefully doing work that's meaningful to you, 01:18:39.640 |
or at least is leading to meaningful outcomes, 01:18:44.340 |
but these happiness inventories also turn out 01:18:52.740 |
that one can create elevated levels of synthetic happiness. 01:18:57.140 |
probably draws up connotations of false happiness 01:19:01.740 |
I wish instead of calling it synthetic happiness, 01:19:03.860 |
they had called it self-created or self-directed happiness 01:19:15.620 |
identical neurochemical and psychological states of happiness 01:19:19.080 |
and might even be more persistent than natural happiness. 01:19:26.420 |
and self-directed work at being happy are both important, 01:19:35.180 |
synthesizing happiness through any of the methods 01:19:42.420 |
It could very well be that the environment that you're in, 01:19:47.580 |
is simply not conducive to synthesizing happiness. 01:19:51.140 |
And for that reason, I think the work of Gillian Mandich 01:20:03.300 |
I think many of us have heard of the incredible stories 01:20:06.800 |
of people like Viktor Frankl or Nelson Mandela, 01:20:18.380 |
that allowed them to still access forms of happiness. 01:20:21.340 |
Those are highly unique situations, of course, 01:20:23.580 |
and they speak to the power of the human psyche 01:20:30.500 |
that there might be a future and to live into that future, 01:20:43.180 |
I know people that are perfectly happy with blank walls, 01:20:46.580 |
Other people benefit tremendously from having photos 01:20:51.680 |
You really have to determine what's needed for you 01:20:54.100 |
and do your best to try and place those things 01:20:59.060 |
that is conducive to you synthesizing your happiness. 01:21:02.340 |
In fact, the powerful interaction between our environment 01:21:05.640 |
and our own ability to generate certain kinds of emotions 01:21:13.040 |
So for instance, there's a classic study from AIMS, A-M-E-S, 01:21:20.540 |
And we've had an episode on gratitude before. 01:21:35.140 |
associated with so-called pro-social behaviors 01:21:37.180 |
and feelings of wellbeing, including happiness, 01:21:40.440 |
but also observing stories in the form of movies or books 01:21:44.820 |
or other narratives of other people receiving help 01:21:47.100 |
is also a very powerful stimulus for gratitude. 01:22:02.060 |
is that gratitude as a state of mind and as an emotion 01:22:12.640 |
just writing down all the things you're grateful for 01:22:18.820 |
or observing gratitude is far more potent, right? 01:22:22.460 |
Bigger increases in happiness and feelings of wellbeing 01:22:25.500 |
and indeed neurochemicals and activation of brain areas 01:22:31.980 |
when the person receiving understands something 01:22:36.660 |
and understands that the person is giving genuinely, 01:22:42.040 |
it's receiving from somebody that you know genuinely 01:22:55.080 |
money, food, assistance in some form or another, 01:23:01.020 |
when the giver has knowledge that the person receiving it 01:23:03.960 |
genuinely needed the thing that they are receiving. 01:23:06.080 |
So the important finding within the research again and again 01:23:24.300 |
physical environment and social environment and so on. 01:23:27.100 |
Likewise, gratitude is something that we can create 01:23:36.200 |
of evoking neurochemical changes associated with gratitude 01:23:53.340 |
is going to benefit tremendously from receiving it. 01:23:56.220 |
So I'm highlighting this because I think that 01:24:01.620 |
there's a kind of automatic erasing of context 01:24:06.780 |
And in fact, if you were to peruse the various videos 01:24:13.580 |
around happiness and synthetic happiness in particular, 01:24:20.020 |
that we're supposed to snap our fingers and access, 01:24:22.340 |
or perhaps do very specific things in access. 01:24:24.940 |
But while that is true, context really matters. 01:24:30.420 |
much in the same way that the point needs to be made 01:24:36.260 |
money can buffer stress and certainly offer opportunities 01:24:39.340 |
that can provide opportunities for more happiness. 01:24:42.100 |
So I think we are starting to arrive at a general theme here 01:24:54.700 |
in the realm of what sorts of mindsets and behaviors 01:25:00.080 |
And this is a paper that was published in 2008. 01:25:03.020 |
And even though that might seem like a while ago, 01:25:04.540 |
it forms the basis for a large amount of literature 01:25:09.300 |
This is work from Elizabeth Dunn and colleagues 01:25:14.920 |
which again is one of the sort of three apex journals, 01:25:17.580 |
Nature Science, Cell, I always say is sort of the Super Bowl 01:25:21.660 |
NBA Championships and Stanley Cup of Scientific Publishing. 01:25:24.060 |
Very, very stringent in terms of the number of papers 01:25:29.140 |
And the title of this paper makes fairly obvious 01:25:33.200 |
The title of the paper is "Spending Money on Others 01:25:37.640 |
And I know a number of you probably hear that title 01:25:41.340 |
He's going to tell us that giving away all our money 01:25:43.940 |
is going to make us happier than receiving money. 01:25:46.600 |
And I promise you that is not what I'm going to tell you. 01:25:48.960 |
But nonetheless, this is a very interesting study. 01:25:54.440 |
Because what the study is based on is the fact that income, 01:25:59.660 |
provided one's income meets a certain level of basic needs, 01:26:03.600 |
indeed has been shown to have only a weak effect 01:26:09.240 |
So quoting from the paper in the first paragraph, 01:26:13.400 |
"Income has a reliable but surprisingly weak effect 01:26:32.300 |
Certainly there are people who have a lot of money 01:26:35.180 |
Certainly there are people who have very little money 01:26:39.680 |
There are plenty of people who don't have very much money 01:26:43.020 |
And in fact, there are people who have a lot of money 01:26:49.880 |
often leaps those with less money to kind of roll their eyes 01:27:13.820 |
In the meantime, let's talk a little bit more 01:27:17.420 |
This paper is interesting because what it did 01:27:20.180 |
is it explored something called prosocial spending. 01:27:23.640 |
Prosocial spending is a phenomenon where people 01:27:32.120 |
often for causes or for things that they think 01:27:38.800 |
That could be a hungry individual having access to food 01:27:47.280 |
It could be for any number of different things. 01:27:52.240 |
or giving somebody money and not having any, excuse me, 01:27:56.020 |
understanding or expectation of what they're going to do 01:27:59.280 |
Again, one of the central themes around gratitude 01:28:06.720 |
giving is also great in terms of increasing sense 01:28:10.760 |
And one of the more important features to that 01:28:20.240 |
knowledge that the person receiving benefits from that 01:28:24.640 |
in some real way greatly increases the chance 01:28:28.640 |
that there's an increase in happiness for the giver 01:28:34.640 |
but not an insignificant one as it relates to this study. 01:28:37.540 |
So what this study found was that higher pro-social spending 01:28:40.960 |
was associated with significantly greater happiness. 01:28:43.320 |
This was a very statistically significant effect. 01:28:55.880 |
I'll explain what that means for those of you 01:28:57.640 |
that might be confused by that statement in just a moment. 01:29:00.840 |
Whereas "personal spending remained unrelated to happiness." 01:29:07.080 |
if people are allotted a certain amount of money 01:29:11.160 |
to give away and want to adjust for overall income, right? 01:29:16.160 |
And this is important because you can imagine 01:29:27.680 |
it might represent a tiny fraction of their income. 01:29:34.800 |
what you find is that people who gave away money 01:29:44.480 |
In fact, "employees who devoted more of their bonuses 01:29:47.840 |
to pro-social spending," that is giving away more money, 01:29:50.080 |
"experienced greater happiness after receiving the bonus 01:29:53.200 |
and the manner in which they spent that bonus 01:29:55.280 |
was a more important predictor of their happiness 01:30:04.300 |
I'm going to read that again just to make sure it hits home 01:30:09.020 |
"Employees who devoted a greater fraction of their bonus 01:30:14.120 |
to pro-social spending," that is giving away money to others, 01:30:18.460 |
"experienced greater happiness after receiving the bonus 01:30:21.860 |
and the manner in which they spent that bonus 01:30:23.900 |
was a more important predictor of their happiness 01:30:27.900 |
So the actual bonus, the receiving of the money, 01:30:30.880 |
led to greater increases in happiness if they gave it away. 01:30:45.720 |
So the takeaway from this study and studies like it, 01:30:48.700 |
I think it's pretty obvious that to the extent that we can, 01:30:51.640 |
and again, when I say to the extent that we can, 01:30:53.980 |
this means whatever percentage of our own income 01:31:02.960 |
I mean, this was about money, but it's also about effort. 01:31:17.480 |
or assist a neighbor who is physically less able 01:31:20.600 |
to retrieve their paper, et cetera, et cetera. 01:31:32.160 |
is immensely beneficial for synthesizing our own happiness, 01:31:40.320 |
But the degree of an increase in our own happiness 01:31:49.480 |
actually needed that help and registers that help. 01:31:55.320 |
that another potent way to synthesize happiness, 01:31:58.480 |
that is to create genuine states of happiness in ourselves, 01:32:07.120 |
to de-emphasize the tendency of our minds to wander. 01:32:15.340 |
I talked a little bit about it in the episode on meditation, 01:32:21.640 |
I just want to briefly touch on a few aspects of the paper. 01:32:25.340 |
And in particular, a few aspects of the paper 01:32:34.680 |
And that is "A Wandering Mind is an Unhappy Mind" 01:32:40.600 |
This paper was published in "Science" in 2010, 01:32:46.600 |
This paper involved several thousand subjects, 01:32:55.380 |
while they were going about living their daily lives 01:33:01.760 |
There were some additional questions that they asked them, 01:33:05.960 |
whether or not people were watching television 01:33:08.520 |
or doing housework or working on a home computer 01:33:19.360 |
to what extent those people were happy or unhappy or neutral 01:33:30.560 |
And they assessed whether or not those individuals 01:33:36.560 |
from whatever activity they were engaging in. 01:33:49.240 |
people were engaging in activities that they enjoyed or not, 01:33:53.340 |
the tendency for their mind to wander from an activity 01:34:12.960 |
or reading something that they weren't enjoying, 01:34:15.580 |
if they were focused on what they were doing, 01:34:23.620 |
Now, this also points to the idea that perhaps 01:34:34.620 |
"to wander to pleasant topics than to unpleasant topics," 01:34:38.780 |
and there the difference is pretty significant. 01:34:40.640 |
People's minds tended to wander to pleasant topics 01:34:44.160 |
about 43% of the time as opposed to unpleasant topics 01:34:50.000 |
or to neutral topics in the remaining 31% of the samples. 01:34:54.040 |
"People were no happier when thinking about pleasant topics 01:35:03.580 |
"about pleasant things than their current activity. 01:35:06.000 |
"In fact, the mere focus on what they were doing 01:35:12.900 |
"even if they didn't enjoy what they were doing." 01:35:16.760 |
"Although negative moods are known to cause mind wandering, 01:35:19.940 |
"analysis strongly suggested that mind wandering 01:35:24.900 |
"and not merely the consequence of unhappiness." 01:35:28.140 |
And so there are a lot of aspects of this study 01:35:33.460 |
or the one that perhaps we should all be most concerned with 01:35:36.220 |
is that when we are not focused on what we are doing, 01:35:41.200 |
than when we are focused on what we were doing, 01:35:44.340 |
is something that we don't deem very pleasant. 01:35:48.220 |
that we consider very pleasant and we are very focused on, 01:35:50.820 |
well, then our levels of happiness are the highest. 01:35:56.220 |
is the tremendous power of building our ability 01:36:05.120 |
is one that itself is a little bit complicated. 01:36:08.740 |
I talked a little bit about whether or not it's beneficial 01:36:25.320 |
or whether or not we should focus on being present 01:36:29.300 |
both our versions of being "present," as you can imagine. 01:36:33.140 |
But in the one case, we're focused internally, 01:36:41.760 |
is that any practice that can powerfully impact our ability 01:36:45.800 |
to remain present in the activity we are engaged in, 01:36:53.060 |
could be social media for that matter, right? 01:36:54.940 |
We're not placing judgment on the activity here. 01:37:06.060 |
And the practice that's known to be beneficial 01:37:08.200 |
for increasing our ability to focus is, among other things, 01:37:15.220 |
In fact, work from Wendy Suzuki's lab at NYU. 01:37:18.180 |
Again, Wendy has been a guest on this podcast. 01:37:20.180 |
Her laboratory has shown that even a very brief meditation 01:37:31.100 |
even a very brief meditation of just 13 minutes or so 01:37:38.240 |
but you have to imagine that even if you skip a day, 01:37:48.140 |
that sort of brief meditation could also greatly enhance 01:37:50.980 |
mood and sleep and various aspects of cognitive performance 01:37:57.860 |
with Dr. David Spiegel at Stanford Department of Psychiatry 01:38:12.380 |
because they really are focusing and more accurately, 01:38:18.180 |
When you do that sort of activity of closing your eyes 01:38:27.340 |
or if you choose, you could deliberately focus 01:38:30.660 |
your perception on some external object or sound 01:38:42.620 |
and increase their ability for you to achieve focus. 01:38:49.180 |
many of us think about meditation as a mindfulness exercise, 01:38:59.500 |
that I just described as perceptual or focus-based training, 01:39:06.460 |
Notions around consciousness and states of mind 01:39:09.980 |
but it's very clear that even a five minutes a day, 01:39:13.100 |
or ideally an up to a 13 minute a day meditation 01:39:23.540 |
also make it very clear that the ability to refocus again 01:39:27.780 |
and again and again on what we're doing throughout our day, 01:39:31.180 |
regardless of what we're doing can have a very dramatic, 01:39:34.900 |
in fact, a statistically significant increase 01:39:40.220 |
So what else does the research tell us we can do 01:39:45.440 |
Well, it's very clear based on the longitudinal study 01:39:48.620 |
from Harvard, as well as the Yale Happiness Project 01:39:52.500 |
and the work of numerous laboratories in the US and elsewhere 01:39:56.660 |
that quality social connection is extremely powerful 01:40:01.300 |
in terms of its ability to increase our levels of happiness. 01:40:11.760 |
This can be romantic connection, this can be friendship, 01:40:16.500 |
or just daily superficial interaction type connections. 01:40:23.780 |
quality social connection and they think deep conversation, 01:40:29.600 |
that oftentimes our conversations with people 01:40:32.980 |
that we are closest to are actually quite shallow. 01:40:36.420 |
If you think about it, if you've been in a romantic 01:40:38.220 |
relationship or a friendship for a long period of time, 01:40:44.060 |
much of what you talk about is fairly superficial 01:40:51.340 |
of the trivial day-to-day things between two people 01:40:54.540 |
or through groups of people that leads to the feeling 01:40:58.260 |
that people are really connected to one another, 01:41:00.380 |
in particular, if it's involving shared experiences 01:41:05.440 |
So there's an extensive literature on social connection 01:41:10.000 |
This certainly should be the topic of a full episode 01:41:12.340 |
of this podcast in the not too distant future, 01:41:17.020 |
such a powerful impact on our states of happiness 01:41:21.760 |
I want to emphasize a few features of social connection 01:41:25.100 |
that I think most people might not appreciate. 01:41:27.440 |
Once again, when we hear quality social connection, 01:41:31.980 |
deep, meaningful conversation or long walks on the beach 01:41:35.280 |
or camping trips together or travel together. 01:41:39.560 |
as wonderful opportunities for social connection, 01:41:45.500 |
are certainly not limited to those kinds of interactions. 01:41:48.400 |
In fact, I can recall times in my graduate career, 01:41:52.080 |
so this would be times when I was living in the laboratory, 01:41:54.940 |
'cause that was a significant portion of my graduate years. 01:41:57.940 |
And one of the more important social connections for me 01:42:06.880 |
So one of the more regular social connections I had 01:42:09.620 |
is I would brush my teeth in the hallway bathroom 01:42:12.400 |
and there was no one else really around at that time, 01:42:23.760 |
And the fact that I would see them on a regular basis 01:42:25.840 |
and maybe exchange a few words about their work 01:42:29.280 |
actually for me, it became very meaningful in part 01:42:33.760 |
were really limited to only social connections 01:42:38.520 |
Now, some people might look at my schedule at that time 01:42:49.880 |
and I know this because I journaled at the time, 01:42:52.160 |
I was exceedingly happy, at least for that stage of my life. 01:42:56.120 |
I wanted to be focused primarily on doing experiments 01:42:59.520 |
and immersing myself in my scientific training. 01:43:04.080 |
And for me, the even seemingly insignificant interactions 01:43:10.960 |
or some of the other regular staff was not insignificant. 01:43:15.640 |
And over the holidays, when their hours were reduced, 01:43:25.960 |
which is there's a quite extensive literature 01:43:31.760 |
especially faces in the morning and in the late afternoon, 01:43:36.760 |
there is a positive impact on the emotional circuitry, 01:43:46.360 |
We as old world primates, much like other primates, 01:43:50.240 |
are very dependent on faces and facial expressions 01:43:53.860 |
in terms of registering our own place in life 01:44:03.400 |
It's actually called the fusiform face gyrus. 01:44:05.560 |
This is an area of the brain that was largely discovered 01:44:11.680 |
And the Kanwisher lab has done extensive work 01:44:29.720 |
That's actually work from another laboratory, 01:44:31.680 |
Doris Sal's laboratory at Caltech now at UC Berkeley, 01:44:34.180 |
has shown that this face processing area in the brain 01:44:50.000 |
So it comes as no surprise that when we see faces, 01:44:54.040 |
even if we have just brief interactions with those faces, 01:45:03.760 |
And I raise this again because I think a lot of people 01:45:05.840 |
think that social connection always has to come in the form 01:45:08.840 |
of close friendships, which of course are wonderful, 01:45:13.980 |
or close family relationships, which of course are wonderful. 01:45:16.740 |
But as we'll soon discuss in our model of happiness 01:45:24.000 |
in a few minutes, social connection can and should come 01:45:38.080 |
All of those are relevant to our states of happiness. 01:45:40.500 |
And there's research to support that daily interactions 01:45:43.820 |
with somebody at a cafe or just a brief hello or a smile, 01:45:51.840 |
to those interactions, however brief they are, 01:45:54.280 |
can have a positive effect on people's overall wellbeing, 01:45:57.160 |
and not just in that moment, but consistently. 01:46:02.040 |
that when I look back on those years of working long hours 01:46:05.260 |
in the laboratory and essentially restricting myself 01:46:08.280 |
either to exercising, sleeping, eating, or working, 01:46:12.640 |
again, that's what I wanted at that stage of my life, 01:46:16.500 |
but that's what I wanted at that stage of my life, 01:46:19.060 |
that even those seemingly insignificant social interactions 01:46:25.900 |
on increasing my level of happiness, and frankly, still do. 01:46:39.820 |
whether or not that is with siblings or with parents 01:46:45.980 |
For that reason, I wanted to emphasize a little bit 01:46:52.360 |
There are basically two forms of social connection 01:46:54.520 |
that have been studied, and I'll review both, 01:46:57.180 |
as it relates to increasing our levels of happiness. 01:46:59.620 |
And the first one is presence and eye contact, 01:47:06.780 |
there's been a lot of studies about whether or not 01:47:09.340 |
people exchange direct eye contact during conversation 01:47:12.780 |
or not, dictating whether or not each individual 01:47:16.860 |
in that interaction feels as if they had a connection. 01:47:21.060 |
Now, again, keep in mind that while we think of connection 01:47:24.220 |
as relating to some deep or meaningful conversation, 01:47:26.820 |
and oftentimes that can be the case, think, for instance, 01:47:35.140 |
or an excellent friendship where you really feel heard 01:47:38.580 |
and understood, or at least to the extent that people 01:47:41.240 |
are willing to explore certain topics with you. 01:47:43.120 |
You're willing to hear them and listen really carefully 01:47:45.500 |
for what they're saying, and they're willing to hear 01:47:47.300 |
and listen to what you're saying in an attempt to understand. 01:47:50.660 |
That certainly can enhance the sense of social connection 01:47:53.020 |
leading to what people would call social bonds 01:47:57.560 |
But eye contact is also known to be an important feature. 01:48:00.860 |
The thing about eye contact is that most people assume 01:48:04.820 |
that a lot of eye contact, and in fact, ongoing eye contact, 01:48:13.220 |
There's a recent paper that I find really interesting 01:48:16.760 |
that was published in "Proceedings of the National Academy 01:48:18.660 |
"of Sciences" in 2021, and the title of this paper 01:48:26.880 |
I find this paper interesting for a number of reasons. 01:48:28.780 |
First of all, my laboratory works on internal states 01:48:31.740 |
and vision, so it relates directly to the work 01:48:33.940 |
that my laboratory does, but also that it violates 01:48:37.300 |
what I thought was a general rule of social connection, 01:48:40.220 |
which is this idea that two people need to be focused 01:48:42.580 |
on one another, that is, looking at one another 01:48:45.340 |
directly and fairly consistently throughout a conversation 01:48:48.740 |
in order for the feeling of connection to emerge. 01:48:55.220 |
and then I'll flesh it out a little bit with some data, 01:48:58.580 |
eye contact, or I should say mutual eye contact, 01:49:05.920 |
You're looking at me, and I'm looking at you. 01:49:08.980 |
then perhaps we are actually doing this at that moment. 01:49:12.380 |
And if you're listening, just know that I'm looking 01:49:13.980 |
directly into the camera as I'm saying this at this moment. 01:49:16.540 |
If we were to be looking directly at one another, 01:49:28.420 |
And that turns out to be a way in which we set 01:49:31.420 |
and reset attention continually during conversation. 01:49:36.460 |
because of the high fidelity, the high temporal precision, 01:49:40.500 |
that is the precision over time at which they looked 01:49:49.420 |
And they did this by looking at things like pupil size, 01:49:54.880 |
The basic takeaway of this study was the following, 01:50:03.740 |
in and out of shared states accompanied by eye contact." 01:50:14.740 |
but the word intimate should not be misconstrued 01:50:21.660 |
just a conversation in which both people feel present 01:50:25.260 |
to the conversation and focused on that conversation 01:50:31.040 |
The tendency is for people to take turns talking, 01:50:34.000 |
although sometimes depending on the individuals, 01:50:37.600 |
Again, interrupting can be a sign of interest. 01:50:40.400 |
It doesn't always have to be rude by the way, 01:50:45.280 |
hopefully about a common topic or set of topics. 01:50:48.600 |
They will at some moment look at one another, 01:50:52.560 |
and that after briefly gazing directly at one another, 01:51:01.800 |
And then the conversation consists of a series 01:51:04.780 |
of focusing back on one another with their eyes 01:51:08.500 |
and then focusing off, focusing on and focusing off. 01:51:19.340 |
ramping of attention and breaking of attention. 01:51:22.920 |
because they violate the stereotype or assumption 01:51:25.900 |
that deep social connection of the sort leading to happiness 01:51:30.620 |
always involves ongoing eye contact or ongoing focus. 01:51:35.240 |
Just as with meditation, just as with any activity, frankly, 01:51:47.200 |
It ramps up, it breaks, and then it re-engages. 01:51:56.560 |
in creating social connection in any context, 01:52:01.220 |
and in particular, for the sake of increasing happiness, 01:52:03.980 |
because it's very clear that social connections, 01:52:06.780 |
even if they are fairly superficial social connections, 01:52:11.420 |
Seeing faces is important, ideally faces in person, 01:52:16.780 |
or over other screen type medium would be a close second. 01:52:21.620 |
But the point is that if you want to increase happiness, 01:52:27.600 |
And if you want to have quality social connections, 01:52:32.200 |
And that requires a viewing of each other's faces, ideally, 01:52:37.200 |
which is not to say that a phone call or text exchange 01:52:41.180 |
but that faces are really the most powerful way 01:52:45.980 |
And that eye contact, not consistent eye contact, 01:52:49.500 |
but eye contact of the sort that builds up and then breaks 01:52:52.020 |
and builds up and breaks across the interaction 01:52:54.160 |
is going to be the best way that we are aware of 01:53:01.440 |
This should also remove any pressure that you might feel 01:53:07.360 |
staring at them without blinking or diverting your attention 01:53:11.940 |
This also frankly is an opportunity where if somebody says, 01:53:16.400 |
"Hey, you're not paying attention because you look away," 01:53:21.300 |
in what is the more typical form of healthy connection. 01:53:23.860 |
I talked about this long ago on an episode about focus. 01:53:26.880 |
It turns out when we are listening very intently to somebody 01:53:29.680 |
and trying to remember the information they're telling us, 01:53:37.100 |
because we have so much of our brain devoted to vision. 01:53:44.740 |
we can actually devote more attentional resources 01:53:47.220 |
to remembering the specifics of what people are telling us. 01:53:50.280 |
But again, please don't go through conversations 01:53:54.240 |
I think that would certainly not be conducive 01:53:58.220 |
So we know that faces are important for social connection 01:54:04.300 |
And we know that eye contact is really important 01:54:08.280 |
Physical contact is also important for social connection 01:54:13.460 |
and not just romantic or sexual type connection. 01:54:16.940 |
In fact, there's a form of physical connection 01:54:22.860 |
In fact, it's present as far as we know in all mammals 01:54:26.060 |
and is also very much a feature of the human nervous system. 01:54:37.620 |
is that it stems from a fairly extensive literature 01:54:49.480 |
there is a paper out of Yale University on this topic 01:54:54.740 |
"The Influence of Interactions with Dogs on Affect," 01:54:58.120 |
AKA emotion, "Anxiety and Arousal in Children." 01:55:03.780 |
And the basic takeaway is that the so-called AAAs, 01:55:09.200 |
represent a really potent way to increase people, 01:55:18.620 |
is that dogs themselves don't really have to do much 01:55:35.500 |
"Brief unstructured interactions with an unfamiliar dog," 01:55:41.980 |
showed higher positive affect relevant participants 01:55:48.360 |
So just even seeing a dog for a brief amount of time 01:55:52.340 |
has been shown to reduce stress and improve happiness, 01:55:56.240 |
or I should say, increase feelings of happiness overall. 01:56:03.400 |
which was at least for me a little bit counterintuitive, 01:56:06.980 |
a soothing object would have been the more powerful stimulus. 01:56:10.780 |
But in fact, it wasn't, at least not in this study. 01:56:13.480 |
The real question I think we should be asking ourselves 01:56:18.460 |
and with other animals that could potentially have 01:56:27.440 |
I think many people are interested in either owning 01:56:33.340 |
as a way to improve their feelings of wellbeing. 01:56:35.140 |
And I say having interactions with, because I myself, 01:56:43.180 |
So when I was a graduate student in a postdoc, 01:56:48.100 |
In fact, there was a rule in my family at some point 01:56:50.140 |
that I wasn't allowed to talk about dogs anymore 01:56:52.800 |
because I was talking about all the breeds of dogs, 01:56:54.840 |
going to dog breeders, examining different breeds, 01:57:00.280 |
The point was that I was obsessed with getting a dog, 01:57:03.380 |
but I knew I wasn't in a good position to own a dog yet. 01:57:06.840 |
I didn't have the correct living situation and so on. 01:57:16.960 |
and they needed dog walkers and I would walk their dog. 01:57:27.060 |
And in fact, I put an ad at that time on Craigslist 01:57:43.760 |
And frankly, it was a great opportunity for me 01:57:54.720 |
I actually got to be a pretty good dog walker. 01:57:57.880 |
and it turns out no matter how good a dog walker you are, 01:58:01.780 |
In fact, if you've ever walked up to a bulldog 01:58:04.120 |
and you've offered to scratch or pet that dog, 01:58:08.440 |
And I would argue, having been a bulldog owner, 01:58:11.740 |
that they like it because it's an opportunity 01:58:17.740 |
which is this principle of so-called allogrooming. 01:58:25.380 |
but very strongly in non-human primates and primates, 01:58:30.040 |
where individuals within a species touch one another, 01:58:38.000 |
So this would be someone brushing somebody else's hair 01:58:43.600 |
or even using a lint roller on them, for instance, 01:58:51.560 |
an established relationship with this person. 01:58:53.520 |
So it could be a professional-type relationship 01:58:55.400 |
where this is a barber cutting somebody's hair 01:58:57.600 |
or a hairdresser cutting or styling somebody's hair. 01:59:01.780 |
It could be somebody giving someone a manicure or a pedicure. 01:59:04.480 |
It could be somebody doing skincare or massage 01:59:16.920 |
This can even, believe it or not, there's literature on this, 01:59:19.380 |
this can even extend into the realm of people 01:59:22.900 |
sort of cleaning and picking off other people. 01:59:33.880 |
If you look them up, you can just look up allogrooming 01:59:36.080 |
and you'll see a vast number of pictures of, for instance, 01:59:38.820 |
baboons picking little things out of each other's hair, 01:59:49.720 |
or like little bits of plants or something like that 01:59:52.760 |
Allogrooming is known to stimulate a certain category 01:59:59.520 |
These are a particular category of so-called sensory neurons 02:00:03.760 |
So these are literally like little endings of neurons, 02:00:19.400 |
but it's known to increase levels of oxytocin, 02:00:23.320 |
a kind of hormone slash neurotransmitter, it's both really, 02:00:31.080 |
or of feeling bonded to somebody or something. 02:00:36.560 |
and we think about the bond between parent and child, 02:00:45.660 |
But if you look at the literature on allogrooming, 02:00:47.680 |
what you find is that when humans groom one another, 02:00:50.960 |
the increases in oxytocin that are experienced 02:00:57.820 |
more often more dramatic in response to allogrooming 02:01:07.620 |
is a pro-social behavior that tends to associate with 02:01:11.680 |
and promote feelings of wellbeing and happiness. 02:01:23.120 |
of bonding between individuals that's completely nonverbal. 02:01:26.560 |
In fact, most often it doesn't involve eye contact. 02:01:28.840 |
I suppose two people could be looking at one another, 02:01:30.940 |
grooming one another, but typically this is done 02:01:38.880 |
Well, it turns out that when humans stroke dogs 02:01:48.040 |
that is a form of human to animal allogrooming. 02:01:50.800 |
And it's one in which both the pet and the human 02:01:58.720 |
and other related neurochemicals that make us feel bonded. 02:02:01.920 |
I bring this up because the Harvard Longitudinal Study 02:02:06.880 |
if not hundreds of other studies on happiness, 02:02:09.080 |
point to the importance of quality social connection, right? 02:02:17.760 |
talk about the richness of social connections 02:02:23.320 |
I think a lot of people think of social connections 02:02:25.600 |
only in terms of travel with or conversation with others, 02:02:30.600 |
but much of what we perceive as deep social connections 02:02:41.920 |
And it's present both in us and in non-human primates. 02:02:53.260 |
through things like non-sexual tactile touch, 02:02:59.020 |
a number of the different things that one can do 02:03:05.960 |
I'm going to touch back into not just synthetic happiness 02:03:19.020 |
that involve focus on vocation and work and pursuit of goals. 02:03:32.160 |
and the feeling that we can provide for ourselves 02:03:38.040 |
but I think it's also important to talk about this notion 02:03:43.400 |
and whether or not having a lot of freedom to choose 02:03:46.880 |
or limited freedom in choosing what we do and what we get 02:03:58.200 |
Dan Gilbert and others have explored this issue 02:04:01.320 |
of freedom of choice and how it relates to happiness. 02:04:10.800 |
but very, very well supported by all of their data. 02:04:15.180 |
I'm going to summarize a large amount of those studies 02:04:29.600 |
to rate a number of different paintings or pictures 02:04:32.600 |
in ascending or descending order of preference. 02:04:36.880 |
In other words, they're deciding which ones they like most, 02:05:00.420 |
One of the photographs was going to go off to a publication, 02:05:07.580 |
were either that you had to make the decision 02:05:10.760 |
and it was final, that is you could keep one, 02:05:13.480 |
and rate your decision, or you could keep one, 02:05:16.420 |
and then you had the opportunity to swap out that picture 02:05:35.420 |
of happiness and satisfaction with that choice. 02:05:48.500 |
Now that might come as surprising to many of you, 02:05:50.460 |
but I want to be clear about what this means. 02:05:52.460 |
This is not to say that having a lot of choices 02:05:55.420 |
of what you like most leads to lesser happiness, 02:05:59.920 |
and that having fewer choices about things you do 02:06:09.060 |
What this set of experiments really points to 02:06:19.780 |
than if we maintain the option to change our mind. 02:06:27.360 |
in terms of understanding our real life happiness, 02:06:37.540 |
we tend to be less happy than if we have fewer choices. 02:06:44.260 |
and actually correlates with elevated levels of happiness. 02:06:50.580 |
it's clearly the case that killing all other choices 02:06:56.660 |
increases our satisfaction with the choice that we've made. 02:07:00.020 |
Whereas leaving doors open, leaving options open, 02:07:03.540 |
greatly diminishes our sense of satisfaction. 02:07:12.900 |
of making choices about what college to go to 02:07:25.640 |
being either the only one or one of very few other options. 02:07:30.540 |
There are a number of different ways to interpret this. 02:07:38.480 |
the area of the brain that's involved in decision-making 02:07:44.800 |
is an area of the brain that's vital, frankly, 02:07:54.600 |
to evaluate different rule sets, to change rule sets, 02:07:57.760 |
to switch contexts and to create meaning, et cetera, 02:08:10.780 |
This is certainly a topic for a future podcast, 02:08:14.740 |
that if I have you attend very intensely to a given task, 02:08:25.580 |
and then have you switch about halfway through, 02:08:31.580 |
then your ability to suppress impulsive behavior 02:08:38.820 |
immediately after that is actually suppressed, 02:08:49.940 |
So evaluating choices and doing computation of numbers 02:09:00.300 |
And that's a limited resource that can be reset 02:09:08.660 |
to allow your brain to reset its ability to focus. 02:09:14.940 |
is it impacts the reward circuitry of the brain, 02:09:24.940 |
but it essentially divides them such that, for instance, 02:09:32.260 |
or maybe you're buying ourselves an article of clothing, 02:09:34.860 |
not that I want to compare selection of a life partner 02:09:40.940 |
might give us, and here it's arbitrary units, 02:09:51.780 |
and then we emerge from the store or the wedding 02:09:55.180 |
and we are focused on what we purchased for ourselves, 02:09:58.840 |
our choice or our life partner choice, and only that, 02:10:03.380 |
well, then there's a certain amount of neurochemical reward 02:10:06.780 |
associated with that and happiness and wellbeing. 02:10:09.620 |
But it's also very clear that if we leave those choices, 02:10:18.180 |
or a life with somebody for a moment, even just mentally, 02:10:25.660 |
if those are still open to us in reality or in our mind, 02:10:28.920 |
well, then our reward circuitry becomes fractured in a way, 02:10:34.220 |
but less attention is devoted to the reward circuitry 02:10:48.320 |
we might have available to us in our mind or in reality. 02:10:51.240 |
Okay, so instead of, and again, these are arbitrary units, 02:11:20.680 |
and really investing in those choices as good ones 02:11:24.500 |
or great ones, and really trying to limit our thinking 02:11:27.360 |
to the choices that we've made once we've made them 02:11:29.960 |
is perhaps also important to our natural happiness 02:11:41.100 |
And what I mean by that is if we are constantly in a mode 02:11:48.180 |
we are not neurochemically nor psychologically 02:11:55.940 |
So we've talked about a number of different dimensions 02:11:57.640 |
of happiness, both in synthetic and natural happiness 02:12:00.180 |
and some of the more counterintuitive aspects of happiness. 02:12:04.520 |
For instance, that people tend to adjust their levels 02:12:09.760 |
but often in spite of their life circumstances. 02:12:20.920 |
that a major trauma or loss won't impact our happiness. 02:12:25.200 |
In fact, it tends to, and that's why it's important 02:12:33.440 |
And of course, there are the longitudinal studies 02:12:37.500 |
and short-term studies showing that income level 02:12:40.500 |
and material things don't necessarily scale with happiness 02:12:46.200 |
And yet we also acknowledge early in the episode 02:12:53.240 |
And while work doesn't necessarily bring happiness per se, 02:12:57.700 |
work can bring a tremendous feeling of meaning 02:13:00.700 |
and resources, which can then put you into context 02:13:18.600 |
of money doesn't matter, it's all about social connection 02:13:26.620 |
which is why we spent some minutes talking about 02:13:29.040 |
some of the ways to enhance social connection, 02:13:30.700 |
both with other human beings and other animals 02:13:40.400 |
the research on the neuroscience of what happiness 02:13:43.880 |
and gratitude and pro-social connection tells us 02:13:59.440 |
And perhaps even we will do an entire episode 02:14:03.200 |
on social bonds and how to enhance or build social bonds, 02:14:06.760 |
or at least what the science tells us about that. 02:14:09.200 |
If we take a step back and we look at the concept 02:14:12.400 |
of happiness, we can make a couple of absolute statements, 02:14:17.000 |
that is statements that I think very few people, 02:14:24.000 |
but that the chemical milieu of the brain and body 02:14:42.040 |
Happiness, at least the way I'm framing it today, 02:14:51.680 |
do certain types of interactions or behaviors, 02:14:55.420 |
could be work, could be social interactions, et cetera, 02:15:01.460 |
And nested in that is this concept of connection. 02:15:04.000 |
And we talked a bit about tools for enhancing connection. 02:15:06.340 |
Things like eye contact, but not constant eye contact. 02:15:08.880 |
Things like being very present to a conversation 02:15:20.480 |
And we talked about the study also published in Science 02:15:30.140 |
leads to this feeling of pro-social connection 02:15:32.360 |
and happiness in the giver and in the receiver. 02:15:38.500 |
but also the giving of effort and time and attention 02:15:45.800 |
and a number of different ways to access those. 02:15:48.160 |
And then we have this access that I'm referring to 02:15:52.840 |
And I'm talking about performance and resources 02:15:59.520 |
not synthetic happiness, but natural happiness, 02:16:05.280 |
if we were to say that income doesn't matter. 02:16:08.280 |
I think it's fair to say based on the research 02:16:11.280 |
that income matters and income that can cover 02:16:14.680 |
costs of living plus that includes some buffer. 02:16:21.780 |
that circumstances might change is important. 02:16:25.120 |
Now that's going to vary from person to person, 02:16:31.120 |
making $1 more than their absolute cost of living 02:16:38.980 |
Other people will require a more substantial buffer 02:16:50.180 |
And this is why I think most people recommend having, 02:16:53.360 |
if possible, some buffer in their bank account 02:16:56.160 |
that could cover two or three or maybe even six 02:17:20.300 |
and that that buffer to anxiety is going to vary 02:17:45.780 |
if we simply said, oh, any work leading to any outcomes, 02:17:50.780 |
any effort, regardless of whether or not it gets you 02:18:05.560 |
typically in the public sphere around the longitudinal 02:18:12.120 |
the takeaway generally is more focused on social connection 02:18:19.280 |
I don't think anyone that's saying that actually means 02:18:25.800 |
plus some buffer isn't important, but it's often not stated. 02:18:29.200 |
So if we were to come up with a general model of happiness 02:18:36.120 |
I think it's only fair to include both natural 02:18:40.420 |
and to pursue both natural and synthetic happiness. 02:18:52.320 |
Although I definitely want to highlight the fact 02:18:54.320 |
that receiving things that don't require much reward 02:19:05.000 |
The other form of happiness is the form of happiness 02:19:10.100 |
which is for instance, focusing on social connection. 02:19:17.720 |
Again, the language, the name synthetic happiness 02:19:22.520 |
but frankly, genuine social connection is genuine. 02:19:26.080 |
There's nothing artificial about it or synthetic about it. 02:19:28.480 |
It's that you can synthesize it through action, 02:19:32.100 |
Likewise, being focused or encouraging yourself, 02:19:36.540 |
working on being focused on whatever activities 02:19:38.740 |
you happen to be engaged in, positive or negative, 02:19:41.200 |
is known to increase your levels of happiness. 02:19:43.580 |
Again, this is a form of synthetic happiness. 02:19:46.200 |
You're not obtaining anything new or additional 02:19:54.360 |
There isn't more money that arrives with this 02:19:59.480 |
that if you are present to the work you're doing 02:20:05.200 |
it's very likely that you are going to perform better 02:20:08.840 |
So we have natural happiness and synthetic happiness, 02:20:11.560 |
and both of them require our attention and effort. 02:20:25.000 |
that's most likely to lead to the outcomes that we want, 02:20:28.680 |
both externally in terms of receiving monetary rewards 02:20:41.120 |
when in the pursuit of so-called synthetic happiness 02:20:46.320 |
or in the form of really focusing on the choice 02:20:49.160 |
that you've made and making the best of that choice, 02:21:01.260 |
So if an ability to focus and attend to things deeply 02:21:10.860 |
well, then tools like a five-minute daily meditation 02:21:21.060 |
which of course sets the basis for attention during the day. 02:21:25.780 |
then you are very familiar with how hard it is 02:21:43.200 |
that's going to create an outsize effect on all the aspects, 02:21:46.980 |
all the behaviors that we know feed into creating natural 02:21:59.780 |
today we've talked a lot about the various aspects 02:22:05.380 |
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