back to indexDoes God Want Me to Be Happy or Holy?
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It's a common question and Josh, a listener, writes in to ask it. 00:00:11.000 |
Pastor John, my pastor who knows and loves the gospel, chose this as his main point of a recent sermon. 00:00:18.000 |
God desires our obedience more than our happiness. 00:00:22.000 |
Now, to me, this feels very much like law and not gospel. 00:00:27.000 |
He did explain this as trusting him and obeying him, even in hardships. 00:00:32.000 |
But doesn't the gospel do more? Doesn't it give us happiness in obeying him? 00:00:39.000 |
I remember 40 years ago when I was teaching at Bethel College, I had two colleagues, Art Lewis and Al Glenn. 00:00:51.000 |
And they had a friendly controversy going on. 00:00:57.000 |
I'd watch this happen several times and laugh. 00:01:00.000 |
They would pass each other in the hall and one, I won't even say which one said which, 00:01:11.000 |
And they really did have a little controversy about where the note should be struck. 00:01:16.000 |
And my guess is that all of us need some correcting from time to time. 00:01:25.000 |
I can get on a roll with a truth that I love and talk about it for weeks and weeks and realize, 00:01:31.000 |
you know, there's some things that are going unsaid that need to be said, 00:01:37.000 |
or what I'm saying is going to get bent out of shape. 00:01:41.000 |
So I would want to be very careful before I pass any judgment on this pastor for the sentence, 00:01:48.000 |
"God desires our obedience more than our happiness." 00:01:54.000 |
My first agenda would be, as people might guess, "What do you mean by happiness?" 00:02:01.000 |
Because my guess is he means something that probably would mean I would agree with him. 00:02:08.000 |
So, for example, suppose he says, "What if he means God desires you to deny yourself that pornography 00:02:20.000 |
more than he desires you to have the pleasure you will get from looking at it?" 00:02:25.000 |
And if that's what he means, I agree with him. 00:02:28.000 |
Or, "What if he means God desires you to stay in that conflicted marriage more than he desires for you 00:02:39.000 |
to enjoy the relief you would feel after you get a divorce?" 00:02:45.000 |
If that's what he means, I would agree with him. 00:02:48.000 |
Or, "What if he means God desires you to get up off the couch and play with your children 00:02:55.000 |
when you are tired more than he desires for you to have the pleasure of resting while you neglect your children?" 00:03:03.000 |
And if that's what he means, when he says, "God desires your obedience more than your happiness," I agree with him. 00:03:10.000 |
So I must be careful, and we must all be careful not to jump to judgment without defining terms. 00:03:19.000 |
But I do totally empathize with Josh's concern if that's the only way his pastor talks about happiness 00:03:31.000 |
I think if he does only talk that way, he's going to create a biblically false picture of the gospel 00:03:42.000 |
Just this morning, I was studying John 17 in my personal devotions, and I read this. 00:03:51.000 |
Jesus said, "These things I speak in the world, that they may have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 00:04:01.000 |
I have given them your word, and the world hated them because they are not of the world." 00:04:09.000 |
So, "I speak to you, and great joy fills you. I speak to you, and great hatred comes against you." 00:04:22.000 |
In other words, Jesus intends for us, in the very acts of obedience that bring down the hatred of the world, 00:04:32.000 |
to be happy, to be fully happy in him, that his joy would rule in our hearts. 00:04:41.000 |
And I know that many people use the word "joy" and "happiness" as different experiences. 00:04:49.000 |
Happiness is superficial and based on circumstances. Joy is deep and based on Jesus. 00:04:56.000 |
And, of course, there is such a thing as superficial happiness, and there is such a thing as deep and unshakable joy, 00:05:04.000 |
but that distinction in the words won't hold up in the Bible. 00:05:09.000 |
The Bible doesn't have a word for superficial happiness and non-superficial joy. 00:05:16.000 |
All the words for joy and happiness and gladness and rejoicing and pleasure and delight, 00:05:24.000 |
They're used superficially, and they're used deeply. 00:05:30.000 |
We must simply make clear at every point, "What does the Bible mean, and what do we mean in our preaching?" 00:05:36.000 |
The main reason I don't like the sentence, "God desires our obedience more than our happiness," 00:05:47.000 |
And, therefore, obedience to that command is happiness and can't be the opposite of happiness. 00:05:54.000 |
It's a category confusion to juxtapose and oppose happiness and obedience when happiness is commanded. 00:06:05.000 |
When happiness is commanded, happiness is obedience. 00:06:08.000 |
So the Bible says, "Delight yourself in the Lord," Psalm 37:4. 00:06:13.000 |
The Bible says, "Be glad in the Lord," Psalm 32:11. 00:06:17.000 |
The Bible says, "Rejoice in the Lord," Philippians 3:1. 00:06:22.000 |
The Bible says, "Rejoice always," 1 Thessalonians 5:16. 00:06:27.000 |
The Bible says, "Do your acts of mercy with cheerfulness," Romans 12:8. 00:06:31.000 |
The Bible says, "Serve the Lord with gladness," Psalm 100, verse 2. 00:06:36.000 |
So it can be very misleading, at best, to say, "God desires your obedience more than your happiness," 00:06:46.000 |
because obedience to these commands is happiness. 00:06:53.000 |
And for more on this connection, see episode number 13, "The Essential Warfare for Holiness," 00:06:59.000 |
which continues this discussion on the connection between happiness and holiness. 00:07:04.000 |
To be perfectly holy would to be fully happy. 00:07:10.000 |
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I'm your host, Tony Reinke. I'll see you on Monday.