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and it sounds a lot like that outside right now. 00:00:19.640 | 
And Matt, a podcast listener, writes in to ask this, 00:00:24.760 | 
"we are to live as strangers, exiles, aliens, 00:00:29.860 | 
"Is there an appropriate place in the Christian life 00:00:42.320 | 
Beloved, I urge you as sojourners and exiles, 00:01:03.920 | 
And that's owing to the fact that this world is fallen, 00:01:11.440 | 
We're gonna spend eternity in a created world, 00:01:15.160 | 
but Satan won't be the god of that world anymore. 00:01:38.480 | 
I don't mean that the earth is a place we despise, 00:01:41.800 | 
I mean that the structures we find ourselves in 00:01:45.680 | 
are so permeated with sin, we want something new. 00:01:49.440 | 
However, God means for us to be enmeshed in this world. 00:01:57.040 | 
We are not of the world, but we are in the world 00:02:06.560 | 
and we're in a country and we're in a continent. 00:02:10.520 | 
And if I ask, now what is patriotism in this enmeshment? 00:02:15.520 | 
My answer is that patriotism is a special love 00:02:31.040 | 
And that love is different from the general love 00:02:34.960 | 
that Christians have for everybody or for the whole earth. 00:02:49.840 | 
is that the Bible seems to point in that direction 00:02:57.060 | 
Paul in Galatians 6 said, "As you have opportunity, 00:03:11.460 | 
and there's a kind of affection for them that is different. 00:03:18.980 | 
"If anyone does not provide for his relatives 00:03:22.380 | 
"and especially for the members of his household, 00:03:27.420 | 
So it seems like it's right not just to have this 00:03:33.900 | 
and everybody has exactly the same affections from us, 00:03:44.140 | 
if he could, he'd be accursed and cut off from Christ 00:03:59.260 | 
or a cultural way with a group that makes us love them 00:04:11.580 | 
because Lewis wrote this book, "The Four Loves," 00:04:24.640 | 
And the one that I think is relevant here is storge. 00:04:35.440 | 
that your wife thinks you should have thrown away 00:04:42.120 | 
Or an old raggedy doll that a kid wants to keep 00:04:45.920 | 
even though it's just no good for anything except that kid. 00:04:49.340 | 
Or a sweater with holes in it that you've worn to read 00:04:54.400 | 
Or an old tree where you carved your initials 00:04:57.680 | 
as a young couple and you just love to go back to that tree. 00:05:05.400 | 
Or the lagoon where Noelle and I were engaged 00:05:11.160 | 
So there's a kind of affection for a tree and for a city 00:05:23.180 | 
When you leave it, get on a plane, go to another country, 00:05:27.100 | 
there can be excitement and challenge and stimulation. 00:05:30.380 | 
You may even find those other cultures superior 00:05:35.720 | 
But when you come home, it fits like the slippers fit. 00:05:40.720 | 
It's just full of good associations like that tree 00:05:52.180 | 
and the goodness is implied in those especialties 00:05:57.240 | 
God created us to be in skin and in languages 00:06:10.120 | 
but to be at home in them and to feel good about them. 00:06:19.540 | 
Romans 13 surely implies some kind of patronism 00:06:24.540 | 
because Romans 13, when it says submit to those in authority 00:06:29.160 | 
implies that a government, a country, a state 00:06:34.000 | 
has the right to use the sword to maintain order 00:06:45.160 | 
And if it has a right to be and to preserve what it is, 00:06:48.660 | 
then the people who live there give approval to that. 00:06:51.960 | 
They say, we like that, we're glad that we are 00:06:58.280 | 
And they can say that without putting down other cultures. 00:07:04.520 | 
because you're pro-America in the sense of loving 00:07:08.320 | 
some of the distinctives that God has made in this place. 00:07:12.640 | 
So I think I would probably wrap it up by saying 00:07:19.720 | 
let it be with a deep sense that we are more closely bound 00:07:24.720 | 
to brothers in Christ in other countries and other cultures 00:07:30.120 | 
than we are to our closest unbelieving compatriot 00:07:41.240 | 
But under that banner, it is right to be thankful 00:07:49.120 | 
thankful that people paid a high price to preserve it 00:07:56.980 | 
- Thank you for that Independence Day reminder, Pastor John. 00:08:02.240 | 
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next week we will welcome a guest to the podcast, 00:08:28.660 | 
Michael Reeves, who is a theologian in the UK. 00:08:34.240 | 
what we can learn from the Puritans and from John Calvin. 00:08:37.400 | 
I'll ask him how the tradition of praying to Mary