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Welcome to Radical Personal Finance, a show dedicated to providing you with the knowledge, 00:00:34.440 |
skills, insight, and encouragement you need to live a rich and meaningful life now while 00:00:38.860 |
building a plan for financial freedom in 10 years or less. My name is Josh Rasheeds. I'm 00:00:43.000 |
your host. Today, I'm going to talk to you about how to get a hopefully high-quality 00:00:48.380 |
used car fast and cheap. I'm going to share with you something I have learned. I'm not 00:00:55.940 |
a professional, but I have bought and sold quite a few cars now. I haven't totaled up 00:01:00.360 |
the number, but it's certainly at least 12, 15, probably closer to 20, I don't know, just 00:01:06.520 |
for my own personal use. I've had some winners, had some losers, but along the way, I've gained 00:01:10.920 |
some experience. I want to share that with you because you might use this knowledge in 00:01:16.220 |
a variety of different circumstances. You might need it now to get a deal on a good 00:01:22.100 |
quality used car for yourself and for your family. You might use it in the future when 00:01:27.460 |
you need to just buy a car all of a sudden, or you might do what I'm doing, which was 00:01:31.400 |
show up in Portugal and try to buy a low-priced but high-quality used car fast. I'm going 00:01:38.020 |
to tell you how I have done it. I don't yet know if the car that I bought is high-quality. 00:01:45.200 |
I believe that it is, but if it turns out not to be, I'll let you know. It's always 00:01:48.380 |
a risk, but I'll tell you how I did it fast and how I go about the process of doing it. 00:01:54.580 |
In the next show in this series, I'll tell you why I came to Portugal. Put quite simply, 00:02:00.220 |
I wanted to buy a car in Europe, and Portugal was the first country that I figured out would 00:02:06.220 |
allow me to buy a car, register it, and insure it on the European continent. I figured, "Hey, 00:02:12.580 |
once I get the car, I can drive wherever I want, anywhere from literally Europe, Asia, 00:02:16.660 |
and Africa," but I didn't want to deal with trying to ship a car from the United States 00:02:20.600 |
or some other place to another country or another continent. That's tricky. I've done 00:02:26.020 |
it, but it's tricky. Let's talk about the process. To begin with, one of the things 00:02:33.320 |
that you want to make sure that you understand is what your minimum requirements are for 00:02:39.100 |
a vehicle. Your minimum requirements can be whatever you decide that they are, but you 00:02:44.100 |
want to get a sense of, "What do I absolutely want and need in a vehicle?" These things 00:02:49.140 |
will change over time. Your minimum requirements might be, "That vehicle needs to be able 00:02:55.580 |
to take me from point A to point B." Fine. If you need to take one person from point 00:03:01.300 |
A to point B, that's something that can be done very quickly. In my case, my minimum 00:03:06.340 |
requirements have more to do with seating and cargo capacity. I need six belted seats, 00:03:13.540 |
at least, and I need, at the moment, some cargo capacity. It doesn't need to be huge, 00:03:18.820 |
but I need some cargo capacity. Then I specified a basic level of comfort. I was looking for 00:03:26.320 |
something that would have a basic level of comfort. I need air conditioning, functional 00:03:30.700 |
air conditioning throughout the whole car. The biggest thing there is we do a lot of, 00:03:36.780 |
when you're traveling, like we're traveling, you wind up doing quite a few long days on 00:03:40.340 |
the road. Long days on the road with the windows open, with a car full of people, are very, 00:03:47.140 |
very tiring. I remember the first time I rode a motorcycle, I rode a Harley from West Palm 00:03:52.820 |
Beach to Key West. Then we were headed back from Key West to West Palm Beach. It's about, 00:03:57.660 |
I don't know, four and a half, five hour road. I remember so vividly, it took us all day 00:04:02.380 |
riding, a few stops here and there, but it was hot, it was sunny. I remember so vividly 00:04:07.560 |
getting off the motorcycles, 10 o'clock at night, got to our destination in West Palm 00:04:11.380 |
Beach, got off the motorcycle, and I looked at my riding partner, and I just said, "I 00:04:15.780 |
am wiped out. I was exhausted." You say, "Why are you exhausted from sitting on the motorcycle?" 00:04:24.340 |
You're not working, but the sun, the wind, the heat, everything exhausts you. It just 00:04:29.980 |
made me so grateful to live when we live versus years ago of being a Pony Express rider or 00:04:36.700 |
a cowboy, somebody going across the plains in a stagecoach where it's hot and it's loud. 00:04:45.060 |
It's exhausting. That is exhausting. The same thing happens with car travel. While I enjoy 00:04:51.220 |
rolling my windows down and taking a short trip, if you're actually on the road all day 00:04:58.580 |
with your windows down because you don't have functional air conditioning, it's exhausting. 00:05:02.660 |
One time, my wife and I, we had a few young children, and we were in Orlando. While we 00:05:08.220 |
were in Orlando, the air conditioning in our minivan stopped working. We just had to do 00:05:15.540 |
a fairly short and easy drive. It's about two hours from Orlando back to West Palm Beach 00:05:19.780 |
where we were living at the time. We had either two or three babies in the car. I can't remember. 00:05:25.980 |
I was genuinely concerned about them potentially suffering heat stroke to the point where we 00:05:32.580 |
stopped several times to stop and get cool drinks, go in the air conditioning in the 00:05:36.300 |
service plazas. While we're going down the road, I'm literally pouring water on them 00:05:42.460 |
so that there would be some evaporative cooling for them and also on myself where I'm getting 00:05:48.460 |
my clothes wet and the children's clothes wet so they would be able to enjoy some evaporative 00:05:52.020 |
cooling. With little ones especially, heat is a major concern. One of my minimum requirements 00:05:58.020 |
was air conditioning. Yours might be heat. You may need a functional heater. Think through 00:06:02.820 |
what your minimum requirements are. You might have certain minimum requirements with regard 00:06:07.220 |
to things like safety. I think this is a reasonable thing to consider. You might say, "I don't 00:06:12.780 |
want a vehicle that is poorly rated in crash safety ratings. I need to make sure that I 00:06:19.580 |
have a certain thing there." You might have a requirement for a certain kind of fuel. 00:06:23.980 |
I want a gasoline vehicle. I want a diesel vehicle. You might have a requirement for 00:06:27.860 |
an automatic transmission or a requirement for a manual transmission. You might have 00:06:32.860 |
a requirement for a certain age of car. Some jobs will give you a stipend for a car, but 00:06:39.220 |
each car has to be newer than a certain age. Or you might want a car that has a certain 00:06:45.460 |
appeal, a certain sense of flash. I think while it used to be I would have said, "It 00:06:50.500 |
doesn't matter what kind of car you drive." When I was younger and I was hyper frugal 00:06:54.620 |
and just be like, "Drive whatever you want." I no longer believe that. People are going 00:06:58.240 |
to judge you based upon your car. It doesn't matter whether they should judge you or they 00:07:03.140 |
shouldn't judge you. The fact that they are going to judge you means that you need to 00:07:07.740 |
take it into consideration. You're free to be the kind of person who says, "They're 00:07:11.220 |
going to judge me by my car and they're going to judge me wrong." But you have to understand 00:07:14.900 |
that you're going to have certain results that come from what you choose to do and the 00:07:21.580 |
image that you choose to portray in the world about the kind of car that you drive. You 00:07:25.900 |
might want to think through what those requirements are. Make, to the extent possible, a list 00:07:31.260 |
of what requirements you have. Since I'm going to give advice in the context of what I've 00:07:36.780 |
done recently, my personal requirements are very simple. I needed a car that was big enough, 00:07:42.700 |
which means six seats minimum, six belted seats, comfortable enough, meaning air conditioning 00:07:50.560 |
function and able to at least be comfortable, have enough space that the children are going 00:07:55.100 |
to be okay. I needed it to have enough space for baggage. It didn't need to be too big. 00:07:59.420 |
We don't have a ton of baggage, but enough space to be baggage. The kind of car that 00:08:03.020 |
I will be content to own for a few months to travel around Europe. That was basically 00:08:08.740 |
the vision. Then, to the degree possible, try to get a sense of what your price range 00:08:15.900 |
would be before you ever start looking at cars. In my case, the price range that I decided 00:08:23.060 |
I wanted to spend was somewhere between three to six thousand dollars. In Euros, somewhere 00:08:31.860 |
three to five thousand Euros. Somewhere in that range. Let me explain how I got there 00:08:37.820 |
for me personally. I certainly could buy a more expensive car. In the course of my lifetime, 00:08:45.960 |
I have purchased many high quality serviceable cars in the five thousand dollar range in 00:08:52.700 |
the United States. I think you can get a high quality, very functional vehicle in that three, 00:08:57.900 |
four, five thousand dollar range in the United States, where the used car market is quite 00:09:03.640 |
flush with vehicles. I would probably do that again, although at this point in time, I'm 00:09:11.020 |
not as broke as I once was. The purchase of a car doesn't make much of a difference in 00:09:16.140 |
my financial life. It makes a lot more sense for me just to have something that is a little 00:09:21.700 |
bit nicer, a little bit newer, because it's nice to have those little technical things 00:09:25.780 |
that you like, the technological things that I enjoy more and more, the active safety features. 00:09:31.100 |
You don't get those on the three to five thousand dollar cars at this point. You get those on 00:09:35.540 |
twelve to twenty thousand dollar cars. I like the active safety features. Some of them, 00:09:40.300 |
I think, are well worth having and I appreciate investing in the safety. But my thinking here 00:09:46.260 |
in Europe was I want to have a throwaway car. I didn't know if I'd be able to buy a car 00:09:52.060 |
and I didn't know if I'd be able to buy a car and actually succeed in registering it. 00:09:57.860 |
My research indicated to me that I could, but I wasn't sure about it. Number two, I 00:10:02.820 |
don't know how long I'm going to use it might be for two months and then my visa runs out 00:10:08.740 |
and I have to leave. It might be for two years. And so my idea was I want a car that is a 00:10:17.660 |
low enough amount of money that I basically mentally can walk away from it. I want to 00:10:24.020 |
mentally have the ability to say even if this car's terminal value is zero, it breaks down 00:10:30.940 |
on me. I leave it on the side of the road. I call a taxi and take a taxi to the airport 00:10:35.740 |
and fly out of the country and I don't even bother disposing of it properly. I'm okay 00:10:40.500 |
doing that. That was my goal. Now, how did I arrive at the number then? I looked at the 00:10:45.020 |
rental costs and the comparable rental costs on a vehicle varied. If I rent a minivan or 00:10:53.260 |
seven seat SUV from a mainstream rental program like Hertz or Avis or any of the other more 00:11:01.120 |
European brands, that price range would basically run me somewhere in the range of about $800 00:11:07.420 |
a week. That's kind of the number, the working number that I have in my head, $800 a week. 00:11:11.840 |
So at $800 a week, four weeks a month, we're quickly in the range of $3,000 a month. Interestingly, 00:11:18.980 |
when you start researching this subject, there are a number of European manufacturers that 00:11:26.420 |
have some interesting leasing programs for people to buy cars and use them in Europe. 00:11:33.940 |
Because of the difficulty of buying and registering and insuring your own vehicle in Europe, some 00:11:38.280 |
of the auto manufacturers have a policy. So for example, Renault or Citroen have policies 00:11:43.520 |
where you can basically drive a brand new vehicle of theirs and it's basically a three-month 00:11:49.100 |
lease. Although I don't remember the exact numbers at the moment, when I first researched 00:11:53.700 |
those, I came out with a price range of a couple thousand dollars a month, which is 00:11:57.580 |
cheaper than the weekly or week-to-week rentals, but it's still not throwaway money. And so 00:12:03.020 |
I thought, well, if I could spend something like, I'll use euros, three to 5,000 euros 00:12:08.420 |
on a car, then in a worst case scenario, I walk away from the money completely. Let's 00:12:15.060 |
say I'm into it for 5,000 euros. Well, if I kept the car for a few months, at least 00:12:18.780 |
I'm a little bit ahead there financially. It's unlikely, very unlikely that I would 00:12:24.380 |
throw a car away that I spent 5,000 euros on. Very unlikely. What is more likely is 00:12:31.660 |
I would decide to end my trip and I would need to sell the car in one week. And so how 00:12:38.980 |
to, what kind of car would I have to have and what kind of price would I need to put 00:12:42.900 |
on it in order for me to sell it quickly? The fire sale price. And I think this is helpful 00:12:48.460 |
when you purchase any kind of physical asset is you should have what you might consider 00:12:53.800 |
the true market value. If I shine this thing up, list it, advertise it in all the right 00:12:59.220 |
places and really get a good response, here's how much I could sell it for. And then there's 00:13:03.980 |
the fire sale price, the price that I put this on the market and it's gone by tomorrow 00:13:07.500 |
morning because the first buyer comes along, sees the value in it, boom, goes on his way. 00:13:11.700 |
So this is the, this is the, the, the way I calculate the numbers. So I figure, all 00:13:16.780 |
right, if I buy a car for 5,000 euros, maybe the fire sale price is 3,000 euros. I'm out 00:13:22.380 |
to that two grand, uh, two grand. If that's amortized out over two months, now I'm at 00:13:28.460 |
a thousand bucks a month. Okay. I can take that. Uh, maybe I'm out over four months. 00:13:32.660 |
I'm at now I'm at four, $500 a month makes even better. And so even if I did suffer that 00:13:38.660 |
loss, then I'm good to go. And so I tried to consider what the price range would be 00:13:46.020 |
and how much I would be willing to lose. That was how I picked it. And so now we get to 00:13:49.700 |
shopping. So the first thing to remember is that shopping is free and we are living in 00:13:55.100 |
a golden age of shopping. You'll notice I use this phrase quite a lot because I am convinced 00:14:00.380 |
it's true on almost any factor I look at. I used to be a sentimentalist for previous 00:14:08.540 |
eras. I no longer am. I'm glad to live in the year that I live in. There's no year I 00:14:12.700 |
would rather live in than where, when we're living right now. Uh, and I genuinely believe 00:14:17.500 |
that, uh, fully and completely. And so we live in a golden age of shopping and it's 00:14:22.340 |
free to shop. And what I believe is the most useful tool for a consumer to use when it 00:14:29.900 |
comes to shopping for a car is Facebook marketplace. Facebook marketplace has the benefit of being 00:14:39.320 |
globally ubiquitous. It's not the most popular website in every country. Every country has 00:14:48.660 |
its own brand that is more popular. It might be, um, you know, well, the Canadians Kijiji, 00:14:57.900 |
right? Um, or Craigslist in some places for certain kinds of things. It might be, um, 00:15:05.500 |
you know, every country has its own, its own local site and you can work in the local site 00:15:10.820 |
if you want to. But, uh, and that's fine. That's good. But what Facebook is nice for 00:15:16.420 |
is Facebook gives you one global brand where there's increasing amounts of inventory of 00:15:21.820 |
whatever you would want to buy that you can search and have an a centralized communication 00:15:26.700 |
place that's pretty good and pretty safe. And so what I'll do on Facebook is I'll go 00:15:32.300 |
to a certain place. This is what I did in Europe. I was looking at campers. I thought 00:15:36.260 |
about buying an RV in campers. So I go to Germany, uh, and I set a 500 kilometer radius 00:15:41.980 |
around, um, you know, Munich. And then I figure out, okay, what is the, I try to figure out 00:15:47.820 |
what's the word that is, what's the German word for camper. And I searched for that, 00:15:53.300 |
uh, or, or I, you know, I repeat this process. And so when I figured out, okay, I think I 00:15:59.180 |
might be able to buy a car in Portugal. Then I quickly said, let me go to Portugal and 00:16:05.220 |
on Facebook and figure out what kind of inventory is available and see is my goal of spending 00:16:10.740 |
three or $4,000 on a car. Can I get something for that? Or our car is more expensive or 00:16:15.880 |
less expensive than that. And so I'd go to the, I would use Facebook marketplace, navigate 00:16:20.840 |
to my target geography. I'd usually use Lisbon, put in a reason, you know, a hundred kilometers 00:16:26.740 |
around Lisbon, something like that, and start looking for vehicles and start sorting for 00:16:31.780 |
vehicles. And the key here is you want to train your Facebook algorithm to deliver to 00:16:37.660 |
you the kind of vehicles that you're looking for. And so in my case, I started by searching 00:16:43.340 |
for a van and I found a model of van. Cause of course, some models of van, uh, would be 00:16:49.860 |
makes and models that I'm familiar with. And some are not, there's a whole different set 00:16:52.980 |
of vehicles available in Europe versus North America versus every country. And so I figure 00:16:58.940 |
out a model, I look at it and then I start searching for that model. Uh, so I don't know 00:17:05.100 |
what the first one was, but it was probably something like a Renault Espace, right? Renault 00:17:09.540 |
Espace is a seven seat, um, MPV, a people carrier. And so it's the kind of thing that's 00:17:16.340 |
big enough that would be good. Minivans as far as the minivan brands are not pop that 00:17:22.500 |
I'm most accustomed to in North America, not popular here in Europe. I have yet to see 00:17:26.220 |
a single Kia Sedona or a single Honda Odyssey or a single, uh, Toyota Sienna on the road. 00:17:34.140 |
These are not, these minivans not popular, but they do have a whole different set of 00:17:38.220 |
people movers or MPVs that they use here. And so you try to figure out, okay, what's 00:17:42.620 |
the brand that I'm targeting? And then you start saving, uh, certain listings. And then 00:17:47.780 |
as you're saving and looking at those listings, look at what's recommended. And so the Facebook 00:17:53.340 |
algorithm will start serving up cars to you that are similar to what you start saving. 00:17:58.240 |
And so it starts giving you more brands, right? I quickly learned just from Facebook that, 00:18:02.060 |
oh, Volkswagen has a car called, I think it's a Sharam, uh, I'm blanking on it at the moment 00:18:07.860 |
as I record this, but I think it was a Volkswagen Sharan. It's a seven seat minivan basically. 00:18:12.740 |
And oh, look, here's this other brand. There's also the Citroen, uh, C4 is another seven 00:18:18.900 |
seat vehicle that could work. And, and little by little, your, your, your thing starts to 00:18:24.420 |
be trained. Then I would also search by seat. So I know that the seating configurations, 00:18:30.220 |
a lot of times are nine seats. I figured out, uh, what, what are the, you look at the ads 00:18:35.020 |
and you figure out what are the words that are written in the ads. So in Portuguese, 00:18:38.420 |
um, then they would put, you know, seven seats, say to me, how to say it in Portuguese, say 00:18:43.300 |
to Lugares. And so they put seven seats and you say, okay, there's a seven seat. So you 00:18:47.260 |
search for that and it gives you a whole listing of pages. So you click save, click, save, 00:18:51.780 |
click, save, read the, read, read the descriptions, get a sense, look at the pictures, get a sense 00:18:55.560 |
of what's available. Or you search for nine seats and okay, here are all the nine seats, 00:19:00.340 |
right? The Renault traffic or the, the Mercedes Vito. Uh, and I didn't know any of these vehicles 00:19:06.500 |
before I started doing this, but I learned quickly learned the makes and the models that 00:19:09.940 |
work and you figure out what's available in that place. Now, ideally you want to do this 00:19:15.120 |
when you have time. And so I started this process a couple of months ago, just browsing 00:19:18.680 |
around different parts of Europe, looking at all the different things that are available 00:19:22.040 |
on Facebook, shopping, getting a sense of what my money will buy. And so that can figure 00:19:26.680 |
out if my budgets are accurate. Can I afford this thing that I want to do? Uh, what could 00:19:30.920 |
I get for my money? What are the sense of prices? And then when you go to Facebook marketplace 00:19:36.840 |
every day, the algorithm will serve you up your recommended listings. And so basically 00:19:41.680 |
after a few days of training it every day, you'll see new, new vehicles that you're interested 00:19:46.400 |
in. You click on those, get a sense of what's available and kind of move on. So that was 00:19:51.140 |
how I did most of my shopping is with simply with Facebook marketplace. I did not contact 00:19:57.360 |
anybody yet. I have found that to be kind of a really silly use of time, uh, until I'm 00:20:03.160 |
ready to actually buy. I didn't contact anybody. I just simply saved listings and I knew that 00:20:09.760 |
there is an abundant inventory of the kind of vehicle that I'm looking for available 00:20:16.320 |
in the price range that I am willing to spend. And that's your key is to get a sense of what's 00:20:21.460 |
available. What's difficult. You can get some information from ads. You can start to see, 00:20:27.240 |
Oh look, this vehicle looks nicer. That vehicle doesn't look so nice. You can get a sense 00:20:31.280 |
of here. This one's priced at this. If you're a really good shopper, you can look at previous 00:20:36.720 |
auctions and say, Oh, this one sold at this price. I don't, I didn't choose to allocate 00:20:42.200 |
the time to that. I didn't see that. That's a useful thing to know. I don't need with 00:20:45.960 |
a three to $5,000 decision. I don't need to spend hours and hours and hours on it. I just 00:20:51.520 |
need to get a sense that something is available and I need to train the algorithm. So then 00:20:56.320 |
the final phase, what I did was you decide I'm ready to buy. And so ideally you need 00:21:00.600 |
to have of course money in a transactions like this. You, in my opinion, always deal 00:21:06.080 |
in cash, a little tricky in Europe, right? There's anti-cash laws in many parts of Europe 00:21:11.040 |
where there's limits and the Europeans are pretty opposed to cash at this point. It's 00:21:16.720 |
very different than, than, I mean, every country has kind of its own culture around cash, but 00:21:21.360 |
I still think that in most circumstances, cash is the best for this, this price range. 00:21:27.560 |
If you were searching for a $15,000 car, I think the Europeans would be pretty nervous. 00:21:32.040 |
A $30,000 car certainly that, you know, they'd want to deal in, in bank transfers and such, 00:21:36.920 |
but at this price range, you can easily deal in cash. And so you have your money ready 00:21:41.360 |
and in used car buying cash is the way to go, especially in a North American audience. 00:21:48.760 |
You want to make sure you deal in cash because cash will allow you many times to simply get 00:21:55.240 |
a better deal. When somebody has had their car for sale for a few weeks and they got 00:22:00.200 |
a guy that shows up, comes and looks at it and the auction was, or the listing was for 00:22:05.320 |
$5,000 and he says, listen, you know, you could probably sell this for 5,000 to someone 00:22:12.520 |
else, but I'd be happy to give you 4,000 for it. And I got the cash right here. That speaks 00:22:18.800 |
when somebody wants cash. Now there's lots of people who don't have any need to sell. 00:22:22.240 |
And I said, no, thanks. I'll just hold out for my thousand dollars, but you can get 20% 00:22:26.840 |
discount there, right there. And I think that in just about any city you could plop, I don't 00:22:31.320 |
know, I feel like pretty confident that if you put a video camera on me, you could pop 00:22:34.400 |
me down in any, any city and I could get a 20% discount on a car when you're dealing 00:22:39.200 |
just in cash and in the used market like that, it just simply works. And cash is so fungible 00:22:45.640 |
that people love it. So back to my story of how I looked for it. The key here is using 00:22:51.040 |
Facebook marketplace as a tool and training the algorithm. That's the benefit that what 00:22:56.400 |
fell at fate. That's the benefit of what Facebook has that many of the other listing sites don't 00:23:01.360 |
have. Craigslist requires you to go to the site and search each day for the specific 00:23:09.400 |
term that you want to search for. The benefit of that is it's not that difficult to eventually 00:23:14.800 |
find the complete inventory of what's listed on Craigslist. And the same thing with, you 00:23:20.120 |
know, in Quentra 24 or, you know, whatever local site you find, Kijiji or, you know, 00:23:28.120 |
whatever it is that you find that's available to you, then you have to search them. But 00:23:32.880 |
what Facebook does and also offer up what these sites do is they train the algorithm. 00:23:37.640 |
So you got to do is pop it open and there is a bunch of new fresh listings that the 00:23:42.280 |
algorithm thinks will be of interest to you. And they're usually right. They're usually 00:23:45.760 |
pretty good. So I flew into Portugal on Sunday and that was when I started making calls. 00:23:53.620 |
Because the other thing about Facebook communication is and in any of this kind of communication, 00:23:58.760 |
you can't schedule things in advance. At this point in time, maybe there are still cultures, 00:24:04.920 |
meaning whole countries of people who are good at keeping calendars. But in my experience, 00:24:11.400 |
there's in this kind of marketplace, you've got shifty people who can't keep an appointment 00:24:16.360 |
to save their life. You're just going to have to wing it. And so I arrived in Portugal on 00:24:21.480 |
Sunday around noon and then got my family all settled in, grabbed a phone at Sunday 00:24:26.120 |
at three o'clock. And that was when I started sending messages. And so what I did was I 00:24:30.120 |
did some fresh searches. I didn't actually even bother looking at my saved searches. 00:24:34.560 |
I just went through fresh searches for the terms that I had found. And I made a list 00:24:39.760 |
of the different vehicles that I had wanted to see. The key here is you, especially at 00:24:45.080 |
least with my criteria, sometimes you got it. You got to see the vehicle to know what 00:24:49.880 |
it's like, you know what it's actually available. And you want to see a few different options. 00:24:55.040 |
If you're shopping for a new car, you go to the dealerships, you look at the car, shopping 00:24:59.680 |
in a used car, you got to go see some of that model to see, OK, will this actually work? 00:25:05.000 |
What does that how did the seats fold? Is there space for for us? Would we physically 00:25:09.120 |
fit into the vehicle? What's it like? What's available in it? And so I just started sending 00:25:15.480 |
messages in this case, doing everything in Portuguese. I don't speak Portuguese. And 00:25:20.520 |
so I use the automated system of in Facebook. It has an automated system. Hey, is this car 00:25:26.640 |
available? So I just send one of those messages and then I followed it up with can I come 00:25:31.000 |
see this today or can I come see this tomorrow? Use Google Translate, translate it into Portuguese, 00:25:36.440 |
copy paste, copy paste, copy paste. And so I just started sending dozens and dozens of 00:25:40.760 |
messages to all the cars that I was interested in that were in my price range that were available. 00:25:46.480 |
And I said, you know, when when is it available? And I had to indicate interest. And then the 00:25:52.840 |
first people to get back to me, I immediately scheduled a time to go and see it, trying 00:25:57.760 |
to do it for the soonest possible. I looked at my first car on Sunday night and it was 00:26:03.320 |
a cheap car that the guys that I can show it to you as an inexpensive car. It was a 00:26:08.120 |
Volkswagen Sharam and a seven seat minivan. It was in it was well used. It was in rough 00:26:15.880 |
shape. But I went I looked at it, got a sense. OK, this one's twenty four ninety five. I 00:26:20.160 |
think it was. Here's what's available. Here's how many kilometers you drive it. Yeah. AC 00:26:24.480 |
doesn't work. It's pretty dirty, pretty clunky. This is not quite going to work for me. And 00:26:29.800 |
then the next day I looked at cars all day long, looked at, I don't know, seven or eight 00:26:34.120 |
cars. I had rented I rented a car so that I would make sure that I had something to 00:26:37.120 |
easily go back and forth across town. But the idea is look at as many cars as possible. 00:26:42.520 |
And in my case, because of the price range, very few, a few of the cars would have worked 00:26:48.100 |
for me. But a lot of them didn't because they didn't have working AC. And so I quickly learned 00:26:53.960 |
what I need to do is let my fingers do the walking. Once I've seen one Volkswagen Sharam, 00:26:59.080 |
I've seen enough. OK, here's a Renault Espace. Now I understand what that offers and what 00:27:03.480 |
it doesn't. Here's a Citroen C4. Here's what that offers. Here's a Kia Carnival. OK, that's 00:27:09.960 |
what that looks like. Now I get a sense of what's available and and move on. Then it 00:27:15.240 |
was a matter of me kind of homing in on. All right. Do I want a smaller minivan? Do I want 00:27:21.440 |
a smaller big car, something like a Citroen C4, which is not a minivan? It's just a big 00:27:27.520 |
seven seat car. How would that fit us? Do I want something like a minivan or I want 00:27:32.600 |
to go ahead and go up to a bigger van? And so by the midday on my first day Monday, I 00:27:37.960 |
decided what I need to do is I need to see a couple of more vans because most of the 00:27:41.000 |
full size vans were more money than I wanted to spend. But I found a few ads in the six 00:27:46.040 |
thousand euros, eight thousand euros, five thousand euros. And so the idea was I want 00:27:51.440 |
to go and get a sense of what five thousand euros or six thousand euros would buy me in 00:27:55.800 |
a full size van. So I emailed or Facebook messaged a couple of those and went to go 00:28:02.240 |
and see some of those. And so quickly I had figured out a couple of models that I thought 00:28:08.040 |
would work, a couple of models that I thought wouldn't work. I'd seen a couple of different 00:28:12.060 |
versions of it and I'd seen some bigger vans. The idea here is you need to train your brain 00:28:16.640 |
to recognize quality when you find it and lack of quality when you find it. So an example, 00:28:22.600 |
I went and looked at a Renault Espace. It was my first car that I looked at on Monday 00:28:26.640 |
morning, looked at it, drove it, considered it, said a little small, wouldn't quite be 00:28:33.240 |
super comfortable with the luggage that we needed, but it would work. And so I drove 00:28:38.520 |
one that was at a dealership. It's great. It was OK. But then later that morning, I 00:28:43.240 |
went and looked at another one being sold by a private party. And you could just feel 00:28:47.560 |
because you would just come from the previous one. You could see and feel that this second 00:28:52.160 |
one was much better cared for. It was a much better shape. Everything was better about 00:28:56.840 |
it, even though both were physically clean. By immediately having gone to see another 00:29:00.960 |
one, you recognize this is a this is the better deal. And so it's worth it to look at a couple 00:29:05.340 |
of models of a couple of versions of the model that you're interested in. In my case, I narrowed 00:29:11.960 |
in by the end of Monday. I narrowed in onto the idea that I knew the model that I wanted. 00:29:17.940 |
I decided that I didn't want to go with a big car. I didn't want to go with the Citroen 00:29:23.440 |
C4 or the Renault Espace. I didn't want to go with the big van. I just didn't I don't 00:29:29.520 |
have I don't need it. I looked at a couple of cool options. I looked at a four wheel 00:29:32.680 |
drive Mitsubishi van. That was cool. It was really neat. Old diesel four wheel drive van. 00:29:38.840 |
I loved it, but no AC. And I decided, you know what, I'm not doing an off road expedition, 00:29:44.640 |
you know, from the from London to Cape Town at the moment. I don't need four wheel drive. 00:29:50.660 |
I do need AC. And this one doesn't have it. And that seemed to be the standout one. Of 00:29:56.160 |
course, in a mild climate here like Portugal, the AC is not as important as it is in some 00:30:01.920 |
hotter places. But I don't want to be stuck not having air conditioning. So I quickly 00:30:05.580 |
learned that that was a thing that that so many cars I was interested in didn't work. 00:30:10.800 |
And then so by the end of Monday, I'd pretty much narrowed narrowed in on the fact that 00:30:14.080 |
I didn't want a big van. I didn't want a smaller car wanted a minivan. And of the minivan options 00:30:20.160 |
that are available, there was the Ford Galaxy, there's the Volkswagen Chiron. But a lot of 00:30:25.280 |
them that but what I've honed in on is the Kia Carnival is like I like this Kia Carnival. 00:30:30.260 |
It's an older van. It's not really sale for sale in Europe right now, which is a potentially 00:30:35.320 |
a problem with parts. But of course it is the Carnival brand is the Kia Sedona is the 00:30:41.000 |
same car market under different branding. And Kia Sedona is quite useful. I like the 00:30:45.880 |
new minivans I rented when I was in Mexico. I rented a Kia brand new Kia Sedona really 00:30:50.620 |
enjoyed it. It was great. So I'd like to buy one of these older Kia Sedona. It's a small 00:30:56.280 |
car. It's a small, small van has enough space, it would probably work the price ranges right, 00:31:01.200 |
etc. And so then I had a focus for the end of the day on Monday. I had I looked through 00:31:07.040 |
all the ads, I had one car that I thought was probably the best it was the most expensive 00:31:11.280 |
car listed on Facebook on that of that of that type. It did think at 40 kilometers around 00:31:17.800 |
Lisbon, and it was the most expensive one, but it clearly looked like the nicest the 00:31:22.100 |
pictures were well done. Everything I looked and I thought this is going to be the nicest. 00:31:27.400 |
But the guy wasn't available to show it to me. Until Tuesday night, I tried by Monday, 00:31:33.560 |
I tried to get him to do it on Monday night, couldn't do it. I tried to get him to show 00:31:36.520 |
it to me on Tuesday morning, couldn't do it. And I was pretty well convinced in my mind, 00:31:40.160 |
by the end of Monday of one day of looking that this this car that I see this ad is probably 00:31:46.560 |
going to be the one that I wind up buying because it just looks nicer. And I'm not one 00:31:51.520 |
for appearances. To me too much. I take my children to the beach and we get in the car 00:31:57.640 |
and we're sandy and we're wet. I don't worry too much about it. But I do think that there's 00:32:02.760 |
a lot of truth in the aphorism that how you do anything is how you do everything. And 00:32:06.880 |
a car that's well cared for physically in terms of appearance has a higher probability 00:32:12.520 |
of being well cared for mechanically than I think a car that has been beaten up physically. 00:32:17.800 |
And so I decided that that was probably going to be the one but it wasn't available until 00:32:22.160 |
Tuesday night. So I spent good part of the day Tuesday working but I did look at a couple 00:32:27.160 |
more. The final last car I thought very seriously about going and buy going ahead and buying 00:32:32.600 |
a Toyota Hiace, which I found a phenomenal deal on one that was well a couple and so 00:32:42.680 |
Tuesday morning I looked at two of those back to back one with 300,000 kilometers another 00:32:47.760 |
would have been owned by a sports team or actually a pair that were being sold for 75,000 00:32:51.600 |
kilometers. Problem was it was going to be 13,000 euros to buy it and I just thought 00:32:55.720 |
I can't unload a 13,000 euro car in a day or two if I want to like that 13,000 euro 00:33:02.200 |
car is going to take a couple weeks to unload probably unless I dump the price really really 00:33:08.440 |
big and so I just can't unload it. So I decided to stick to the plan of the original price 00:33:13.880 |
range that I set. But by then I knew okay I've looked at enough. So then on Tuesday 00:33:19.120 |
afternoon I arranged very quickly two more Kia Carnival to look at because I had honed 00:33:26.280 |
in on that model being the best fit for me and I looked at them all back to back and 00:33:30.520 |
so by the time Tuesday night at five o'clock I arrived at the final viewing that I had 00:33:35.120 |
arranged of the one that I thought was nicer. I had literally just come from from a different 00:33:40.840 |
one that I just driven and I could see how I could sense how it how it was and I arrived 00:33:47.840 |
to find that yes indeed this Kia Carnival is as nice as I thought and it was a lot more 00:33:53.440 |
expensive than the other one. You know the one that I had just driven previously was 00:33:58.480 |
2400 euros and the one that I was test driving started off at 4250. So it was more expensive 00:34:08.000 |
but let me pause for a quick monologue on price of used vehicles and how to how to think 00:34:15.320 |
about it. With a used vehicle your single biggest risk is that the vehicle that there's 00:34:27.440 |
something wrong with it. With a new vehicle there's generally nothing wrong with a brand 00:34:32.600 |
new vehicle. In theory it's possible to get a lemon. Yes that does happen but it infrequently 00:34:38.680 |
happens you can check reliability data etc. across a brand and model pretty easily. In 00:34:47.200 |
theory you can get a lemon but it's unlikely and so when you buy a new vehicle you know 00:34:51.960 |
what you're getting. When you buy a used vehicle you have no idea what you're getting. I don't 00:34:56.960 |
think this is as big of a deal as a lot of people say it is. I believe personally that 00:35:03.280 |
car quality has increased so much over the last few decades that you could probably buy 00:35:10.220 |
most cars sight unseen and be pretty well okay. I think this is true across most brands. 00:35:17.520 |
I think this is true across most cars. People talk about oh you shouldn't buy a rental. 00:35:22.000 |
Well I don't think that that's really the case. Cars are built to be driven and certainly 00:35:28.880 |
there are people who drive the car without oil in it. There are there are problems I'm 00:35:32.220 |
not negating that but most of the time if the car has lower mileage it's going to be 00:35:36.720 |
fine everything's going to work fine with it. How you avoid the single biggest risk 00:35:42.020 |
of a used car is by making sure you buy a car where you know its history. So you can 00:35:46.800 |
check its Carfax report. The best way to do it is to buy a car from somebody that you 00:35:51.760 |
know. Somebody who's had the car for at least a couple years. It doesn't have to be a single 00:35:54.840 |
owner car but you want somebody to have had the car that you know is going to tell you 00:35:57.880 |
the truth about it for the last couple of years. So I have a standing policy that any 00:36:01.600 |
time I know somebody who is who is selling a car that they've owned personally I go and 00:36:09.320 |
look at it and I think is this a vehicle that would fit in a useful intelligent way into 00:36:14.240 |
our family's fleet because I can eliminate the single biggest risk of a used car by simply 00:36:19.440 |
knowing the history. You know I have a friend of mine who has a minivan. He bought it brand 00:36:23.280 |
new it's a Toyota Sienna minivan. I told him I said listen he likes to drive newer cars. 00:36:27.840 |
I said listen if you ever want to sell this call me I'll buy the van from you. I'll give 00:36:32.240 |
you more than the dealer would pay for you and I'll buy immediately because I know at 00:36:35.720 |
some point in time I'm going to need a minivan like that. This is a nice one. He bought it 00:36:40.000 |
new he's had it for a few years and so he's got a standing offer. The day he wants to 00:36:43.760 |
sell is the day Joshua buys it. I'm not him. I don't need to look at it. I trust him. I 00:36:49.000 |
know him. Just tell me what the dealer is going to give you for it and I'll increase 00:36:54.360 |
that I'll give you more than that. It's done. That's all I need to do. So because that eliminates 00:37:00.400 |
my risk and I know it fits what I need to get a good deal on a vehicle that I will find 00:37:05.440 |
useful. In looking at other people's cars though what you're looking for is you're looking 00:37:12.720 |
for condition and you're looking for a story that makes sense. You're looking for someone 00:37:18.040 |
to show you a story where everything clicks. The car the story that the physical vehicle 00:37:23.940 |
is telling is that lines up with the story that the person is telling. And so when I 00:37:29.320 |
saw this ad and I started communicating on on messenger everything was lining up. Everything 00:37:36.240 |
was making sense with a really good quality car. And then when I came from the previous 00:37:43.720 |
vehicle and saw this one you get in you drive it. The clutch and the brake and the accelerator 00:37:50.360 |
pedal everything is there. The steering is pretty tight. The gearbox shifts smoothly 00:37:55.520 |
like just those little things not to be a mechanic just those little things make sense. 00:37:59.400 |
And so a quick inspection of the car look at the seals etc. Talk about that in a moment. 00:38:05.000 |
And I knew hey this is the vehicle that I would like to to have. Now here's what I look 00:38:11.200 |
for when I am buying a car. First of all I'm not a car mechanic. I don't enjoy it. I'm 00:38:19.540 |
not into it. But I can carry a flashlight and I can look under the hood. So even being 00:38:26.040 |
relatively uneducated the first thing I do is just simply pop the hood with engine cold 00:38:32.080 |
if possible. Pop the hood and look at everything. Especially look at belts and hoses. Look at 00:38:37.960 |
a belt see is the belt in good condition. Hoses are there is the rubber good etc. Look 00:38:43.300 |
for oil. I use a flashlight look down on the bottom of the engine look all around on the 00:38:47.440 |
suspension parts is there excessive amounts of oil. Then get down and look under the car 00:38:51.680 |
look at the CV boots. The boots on the CV axles and see is there are these is the rubber 00:38:57.040 |
good is it is it clean are these new or are these falling apart is there is there excessive 00:39:01.800 |
oil under the car somehow. Take a look just at the physical appearance of things. Smell 00:39:08.640 |
for anything weird and then start turn the car on and listen. Look for smoke look for 00:39:14.080 |
noises that you consider and hear and then take it on a drive and see what it feels. 00:39:19.480 |
And that's about as far as you need to go at least with your ability. Now you can have 00:39:23.260 |
a mechanic inspect it and that's always a recommendation. But over time you can I think 00:39:28.900 |
learn to do your own inspections as well. I've had enough mechanics inspect things that 00:39:33.780 |
you kind of get a sense of what they're doing. I remember this when I bought my first RV 00:39:36.600 |
I took the mechanic and I just watched him do his inspection and then I got to the point 00:39:40.920 |
where okay I could repeat that and I can understand what the mechanic did and then I can repeat 00:39:47.040 |
how he did his inspection. I'm not going to be as good as he is but if I I build a little 00:39:51.840 |
bit more skill. So if it's your first time take the car to a mechanic arrange that with 00:39:57.280 |
a seller that I'd like to have my mechanic inspect it have it inspected and just ask 00:40:00.760 |
him what are you looking for when you do the actual inspection and then learn from the 00:40:06.600 |
process. And so I the other thing that I'm looking for is as I said the story. So think 00:40:13.280 |
about all the communication and get a sense of what's the story. I looked at one Kia Carnival 00:40:18.600 |
that I thought was okay but the story wasn't making sense to me. The vehicle was cheap 00:40:25.600 |
in fact it was one of the cheapest ones that I found. It was okay mechanically I didn't 00:40:29.280 |
find any glaring errors with it but the story didn't make sense. The guy said he bought 00:40:33.840 |
it for his wife asked him how long have you had it. Now maybe this was a lost in translation 00:40:37.720 |
problem because he's speaking in Portuguese and I'm speaking in Spanish and you know there's 00:40:42.240 |
some crossover lap but the end of the day you know I could have misunderstood him but 00:40:46.640 |
he told me that he bought the car for his wife a month or two ago but it was too big 00:40:52.060 |
for her and so I said well what did you get in exchange. Well I got her a little itty 00:40:55.760 |
bitty car so why are you selling it. Well I need the money. Like nothing made sense 00:40:59.860 |
it wasn't a story that made sense. Normal people don't go and buy their wives a minivan 00:41:05.080 |
with seven seats and then she decides oh it is indeed too big and then turn around and 00:41:09.520 |
buy her a tiny car a month later. That doesn't make sense. Maybe you go from a full-size 00:41:15.920 |
car to a medium-size car maybe you go from a minivan to a large SUV but you don't go 00:41:20.280 |
from a minivan to a tiny little car without some more explanation. So there were other 00:41:24.800 |
things as well but you just get a sense this doesn't feel right and I walked away. When 00:41:29.920 |
I got to the vehicle that I ended up buying everything made sense. Just ticked all the 00:41:35.160 |
boxes etc. So the way I do it is ask your questions multiple times multiple ways. So 00:41:41.760 |
if you study interrogation techniques how does an interrogator get somebody to tell 00:41:48.720 |
them that they're lying. Well you usually get it by getting the person to tell you what 00:41:53.240 |
happened and then you talk a little bit and then you get the person to tell you what happened. 00:41:58.640 |
And it's very difficult if somebody is making up a story for all the little details to match 00:42:03.600 |
between those things. And so if you're a sharp listener you can always hear the discrepancies 00:42:10.160 |
and then understand what's happening and you can get a sense as the whole story fit. In 00:42:14.720 |
this case as soon as I got in the car I knew this is a good car and the story fit and now 00:42:19.840 |
it's just a matter of arranging the details. In terms of pricing what I have found to be 00:42:26.920 |
effective in terms of pricing is to recognize I don't always want to have the cheapest car. 00:42:34.440 |
With a used vehicle that's what I tried to say earlier and I got a little sidetracked 00:42:37.720 |
forgive me. With a used vehicle saving $500 on the front end is not nearly as important 00:42:45.240 |
as getting a good car because you'll spend $500 on a single mechanical visit to the mechanic. 00:42:52.040 |
One of the biggest vehicle mistakes I made was a few years ago I bought a van. I bought 00:42:56.600 |
a cheap van. I was tickled pink with my deal. I thought I'd gotten the deal of the century 00:43:01.680 |
and I inspected it. Everything looked great. Everything seemed to make sense but then the 00:43:05.640 |
van wasn't working. And I wound up spending I think I bought the van for like $2,500. 00:43:10.720 |
I wound up spending $3,500 on the mechanic just trying to get the thing going. It never 00:43:14.260 |
could get going. Sold it. Took a loss on it and went on with my life. The point is that 00:43:22.420 |
mechanic bills can add up quickly. That was why I said with my friend who's got the minivan 00:43:27.800 |
why would I'll happily pay you $1,000 more than the dealer will pay you and pay you today 00:43:32.560 |
any day you decide you want to sell the car because that $1,000 for a vehicle that I know 00:43:37.280 |
is taken care of will be far cheaper than just a couple of new parts bolted out in time. 00:43:44.000 |
I've learned to not take the lower end of the market if it can be avoided. I didn't 00:43:48.040 |
mind looking at the most expensive minivan that was listed there because the van had 00:43:52.560 |
enough of the features, the extras that made it justified. It was in good condition and 00:43:57.920 |
somebody who prices their vehicle like that who's not a dealer knows that this is a quality 00:44:03.040 |
vehicle. Whenever I've gone to sell a vehicle private party I always price it where I think 00:44:07.880 |
the market deserves to be. And if I'm confident that my vehicle's a good vehicle I'm going 00:44:13.440 |
to put a decent price on it. So I don't mind buying a more expensive vehicle. The overall 00:44:21.360 |
price is going to be beat down by the market itself. I didn't check Blue Book. I don't 00:44:27.000 |
know if Blue Book, I assume Europe probably has one. I didn't do the research to find 00:44:31.280 |
out. I knew because I looked at several competitors. I knew what these things are going for. I 00:44:35.200 |
knew this one's a little bit more but I looked at it and I said everything about this makes 00:44:38.800 |
sense. This car has the marks of a well taken care of car. The whole story, I'll skip the 00:44:43.040 |
whole back story, but the whole story clicks. Everything makes sense about this. So I then 00:44:48.840 |
asked them, now price negotiation. What can you do in price negotiation? Best thing you 00:44:52.720 |
can do is just ask when someone's selling you something, ask them if they can lower 00:44:56.840 |
the price. You don't need to do any kind of games or anything silly. Just ask them to 00:45:01.600 |
lower the price. And so if someone's asking, in my case $42.50 for a car, then just say 00:45:08.040 |
can you do anything lower than that? Can you do anything better than that? If someone says 00:45:13.520 |
in a real negotiation, you don't be the first one to say the number, just ask, can you do 00:45:17.320 |
any better than that? Not going to hurt you if they can't, you're not offending anyone. 00:45:20.820 |
But most people will come off a price a little bit quickly if you just say, hey, can you 00:45:23.760 |
do any better than that? And then in this case, I decided that my negotiation, I wanted 00:45:30.320 |
to negotiate on terms, not on price. So in a negotiation, there are usually multiple 00:45:35.900 |
things that you can negotiate. Put simply, we can call it price or we can call it terms. 00:45:42.160 |
In the car marketplace, you see dealers do this all the time. They come to you and say, 00:45:46.800 |
well, you know, this car is $19,995 or it's $199 a month. Well, you can negotiate those 00:45:56.040 |
terms. And for one guy, the $19,995 is a better deal than $199 a month. For another guy, the 00:46:03.760 |
$19,999 a month is a vastly better deal because he's got that. He doesn't have the $19,995. 00:46:08.560 |
And so then when you get into the details, you can negotiate on length of term, length 00:46:13.020 |
of payments or interest rate. And you can go through and negotiate all the terms. And 00:46:17.800 |
so I pretty quickly agreed to the seller's price because in my experience, people who 00:46:24.240 |
have a high quality product sometimes don't like too much to be beaten up on price. And 00:46:34.840 |
so my interest with this car was not to get the cheapest deal, saving $200 when I've got 00:46:42.880 |
a rental car sitting there, you know, $70 a day. That's not the most important thing. 00:46:47.520 |
The most important thing is not saving, getting, saying, OK, I saved $200. It's actually to 00:46:52.040 |
get somebody who will help me close the deal quickly. And so I negotiated on terms and 00:46:56.480 |
I said, you know, here's the deal. I'm an American tourist buying the car and I want 00:47:00.720 |
to pay with this method of payment. I want to do the deal in this terms. And here's my 00:47:08.080 |
I need you to work with me to help me get the registration done, help me with language, 00:47:12.280 |
etc. And so we were able to negotiate on terms. And then the other thing is once you've agreed 00:47:19.840 |
to price, if you're going to renegotiate price or negotiate price, let the car negotiate 00:47:24.400 |
the price. Go and do your inspection. And if you find some problems, you come back and 00:47:29.200 |
say, listen, I was going to pay you $4000 for the car, but the inspection found this, 00:47:34.720 |
this, this, this, this. I can't do that. You know, the estimate here is this is going to 00:47:39.840 |
cost me X number of dollars. If I pay this price to you, it's just it's just not fair. 00:47:44.840 |
I can't do it. And so that's a much more worthwhile technique, negotiation technique than than 00:47:53.560 |
the alternate than trying just to beat someone up on the front end of a price. The final 00:47:57.600 |
bit of language that I'll share with you is language that's been useful to me. I believe 00:48:01.360 |
that honesty in all dealings is the best policy. And so language that I have used successfully 00:48:09.280 |
is with a buyer is just simply to say what I told you. I was like, hey, listen, this 00:48:14.640 |
is a really nice car. You know, I like the car a lot. I'd like to buy it. This is a really 00:48:19.120 |
good car. And I don't think your price is unfair. I think that if you wait a little 00:48:25.760 |
bit longer, you'll probably find someone who could come along and pay this price that you're 00:48:29.640 |
asking for the car. But I can't personally pay the price. But what I can pay is this. 00:48:35.520 |
And I got the money right here. If you'd like to sell it today, I'd be happy to to buy it 00:48:40.840 |
today. And I found that's just a simple, honest, truthful scenario. If you find a nice car 00:48:47.400 |
and you say this car probably is worth this, you're not wrong. You haven't insulted anybody. 00:48:51.480 |
You're being honest, but you're also being honest. I'm not going to pay that price. I'm 00:48:56.080 |
happy to pay this price and I'm happy to close today. I'm happy to hand you the money right 00:48:59.800 |
now. And so that's useful, a little bit of language that I have found to be helpful to 00:49:06.120 |
At the end of the day, then it's just a matter of arranging the details. When and where am 00:49:11.560 |
I going to drive it home? How are we going to arrange the title transfer? In my case, 00:49:15.840 |
with it being Portugal, I needed the seller's help to do all of that. We needed to figure 00:49:20.720 |
out money conversion, currency conversions. We needed to figure out the actual registration 00:49:26.520 |
process. I needed some handholding in that. And so that was another reason why I wasn't 00:49:31.440 |
in this transaction, wasn't too worried about price, not being an expert, not being a local, 00:49:36.080 |
figuring things out. I needed someone who would be willing to do a few extra things 00:49:40.760 |
for me. And I just picture the price as being a little bit of a consulting fee. Don't get 00:49:46.600 |
me wrong. I got some negotiations on the price. I got the price pulled off a decent amount. 00:49:53.520 |
I was happy with to account for a couple of things. But what was more important was I 00:49:58.480 |
got a smooth transaction and I made a friend out of the deal. And I think it's the point 00:50:03.280 |
of a win-win deal is that my goal in any transaction anywhere is to make it a win-win deal. I want 00:50:10.440 |
people to feel like they win from doing business with me and that I win from doing business 00:50:14.360 |
with them. And I want us to part as friends. So that is how I accomplished the purchase 00:50:21.920 |
of a car. I'll let you know if it turns out to be right or wrong. I did miss one thing 00:50:26.880 |
on the vehicle that being fixed quite literally as we speak or as I record anyway. And that 00:50:35.040 |
was my mistake. I missed one small thing, but it's no big deal. I expected to do that. 00:50:39.880 |
And that's the other thing is that when you buy a used car, at least for me, when I buy 00:50:43.800 |
a used car, I'm going to expect to change some things. I knew I had to put new tires 00:50:46.980 |
on it. No big deal. I put new tires on it. A lot of times it's just maintenance items 00:50:51.680 |
that have piled up. So new tires, new wipers, new battery, all that stuff that adds up. 00:50:55.760 |
So just make sure you keep your budget available. And as I've stated in the standalone show, 00:51:01.680 |
always budget for the accessories. If you've got $500 to do something, then spend $300 00:51:06.880 |
on the primary thing and then spend $200 on the accessories that you need in order to 00:51:11.040 |
do the thing that you want to do. Don't max your budget out on the thing itself. Plan 00:51:16.280 |
for the accessories and the service and all that stuff that makes the thing useful. But 00:51:21.200 |
that's how I did it. I think the biggest tool is just use Facebook Marketplace and let the 00:51:26.640 |
algorithm help you. And I think you'll find good success. 00:51:31.640 |
Cars. I've changed the way that I talk about cars. I used to be on the standard personal 00:51:39.560 |
finance bandwagon of cars are so expensive and moderate the amount of money that you 00:51:44.000 |
spend on. That's true. That's true. I've over the years, I've counseled a lot of people 00:51:51.720 |
and their cars are just destroying their net worth. It's true. However, as I have increasingly 00:52:02.320 |
worked with, studied and learned from wealthier people, maybe it's just me that's changing. 00:52:08.880 |
But for a wealthy person, meaning a high income earner or a wealthy person, your car is not 00:52:15.520 |
going to make a meaningful difference in your overall financial plan. So just make sure 00:52:22.120 |
that you buy the kind of car that's not going to make a meaningful difference in your overall 00:52:25.880 |
financial plan. And so I'm less on the car bandwagon than I once was. Hopefully I can 00:52:39.360 |
that I'm expressing that clearly. If you're earning twenty thousand dollars a year working 00:52:43.600 |
as an entry level waiter in a restaurant, don't go out and buy a new car. Nothing meaningful 00:52:51.560 |
is going to come from your career because of the fact that you went out and bought a 00:52:56.040 |
new car, build your career first and figure out how to go from twenty to two hundred thousand 00:52:59.600 |
dollars a year and invest into yourself. Go car free when you're twenty grand. But if 00:53:06.280 |
you're on the trajectory where your your income is growing, then just be thoughtful. Don't 00:53:11.640 |
waste money. But the car doesn't have to be something that you stress about. It doesn't 00:53:16.080 |
have to be a major factor in your overall financial situation. I think that if you're 00:53:22.040 |
worried about the cost of gas, if you're worried about the cost of a car, I don't mean this 00:53:26.340 |
to sound arrogant, but I think you're doing it wrong. Change the choices that you make 00:53:33.160 |
so that you can do business in a in a sense where you don't worry about the cost of the 00:53:38.320 |
car and you don't worry about the cost of the gas. The reason I wanted a budget three 00:53:43.280 |
to five thousand dollars for a vehicle to drive around Europe was because I viewed that 00:53:49.520 |
as throwaway money. Not that I want to throw away three to five thousand dollars, but I'm 00:53:53.120 |
comparing it to the alternative, comparing it to Ubers, I'm comparing it to renting a 00:53:58.600 |
car, etc. And so I'm just saying this is the amount of money that I'm comfortable spending 00:54:03.480 |
as throwaway money. So if it all disappears, I'm OK. And when you do that over time and 00:54:11.000 |
you make choices where you don't stretch your capacity, then you can focus and go back to 00:54:18.280 |
other things. The biggest cost for me, the car has not been the money. The biggest cost 00:54:21.880 |
of the car has been simply the time invested in getting it done. I've lost basically a 00:54:28.800 |
week in getting all the details done. I've gotten some work done, but still I'm sitting 00:54:33.200 |
here on Friday afternoon waiting for the tires to be finished on it. And so that's an expensive 00:54:40.060 |
cost to lose a week of productivity because you're going looking at cars. That's much 00:54:44.540 |
more expensive to me than the money. And more and more, I'm realizing that one of my biggest 00:54:50.560 |
financial mistakes has been and still is choosing time, costly frugality as compared to simply 00:55:01.520 |
spending money in order to reclaim time. And so I've been trying to analyze how I'm using 00:55:08.080 |
my time and realize that frugality that requires time is often not been the best solution. 00:55:17.200 |
Even in this whole thing, I wondered maybe I should have just gone with a brand new Renault 00:55:22.440 |
with a three month lease or whatever. In my case, it didn't seem like the right thing 00:55:28.400 |
to do. But probably next time I'll do things that maximize time more and more. Because 00:55:35.880 |
when you realize how precious time is, then it seems really foolish to squander it. And 00:55:43.040 |
I've squandered too much of it in my life. On that note, thank you for listening. I wish 00:55:48.560 |
you good Friday and I will be back with you very soon. 00:55:53.880 |
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