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Reinvent Yourself: How To Completely Change Your Life Before 2024 | Cal Newport


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0:0 How to re-build your life
3:1 Discipline
5:0 Values
9:48 Calm
12:0 Plan

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00:00:00.000 | How do I rebuild my life into something deeper?
00:00:05.000 | All right, so I'm gonna load up on the screen here,
00:00:09.660 | my notes, I'm gonna draw.
00:00:11.980 | So caveat emptor, Cal Newport's gonna try drawing.
00:00:14.720 | This never ends up being that beautiful.
00:00:16.800 | Be ready for it.
00:00:18.360 | If you're listening and you wanna watch
00:00:19.880 | what I'm drawing on the screen, this is episode 252.
00:00:23.400 | So go to youtube.com/calnewportmedia
00:00:26.440 | and look for episode 252,
00:00:28.760 | or go to thedeeplife.com and look for episode 252.
00:00:31.520 | I'll also do my best to narrate what I'm drawing
00:00:33.540 | for those who are just listening.
00:00:35.980 | All right, so what you'll see on the screen here
00:00:38.300 | is what I call the deep life stack.
00:00:42.520 | Right now I have it empty.
00:00:43.620 | We're gonna fill in the details as we go along.
00:00:46.900 | The stack has four different levels to it.
00:00:49.160 | I'll highlight those.
00:00:50.240 | You got level one, two, three, four.
00:00:52.600 | The way I'm conceptualizing the deep life stack
00:00:56.440 | is sequential.
00:00:58.020 | You start with developing the bottom layer of the stack.
00:01:01.720 | Then you move up to the second layer,
00:01:03.580 | then the third, then the fourth,
00:01:04.760 | and then we're gonna iterate,
00:01:05.680 | and we'll get into that soon.
00:01:07.480 | All right, so what happens on the first layer
00:01:09.280 | of the deep life stack?
00:01:11.300 | This is the first big change or breakthrough,
00:01:15.600 | I would say, I've had when thinking
00:01:17.080 | about the deep life more recently.
00:01:18.680 | What I'm gonna put at this bottom layer
00:01:20.640 | is gonna be discipline.
00:01:22.680 | That's gonna mean two things.
00:01:27.480 | But let me say what my goal is here.
00:01:31.020 | I'm realizing when it comes to cultivating
00:01:33.540 | a different type of life, any type of transformation,
00:01:36.000 | you have to first change your self-identification
00:01:39.500 | to be the type of person who is able
00:01:42.780 | to persist with things that are difficult
00:01:46.620 | in the moment in pursuit of a greater good down the line.
00:01:51.620 | And I think it's very easy for people like me
00:01:53.980 | who give advice for a living,
00:01:55.580 | who've been doing this for a long time,
00:01:56.980 | to take for granted that that's what we do already.
00:01:59.240 | But this is actually for most people,
00:02:01.080 | maybe the most critical step is transitioning
00:02:03.220 | from someone who says, "Look, this is not me.
00:02:05.760 | "I don't have discipline.
00:02:07.160 | "I'm not really able to pursue goals
00:02:09.240 | "unless I feel really excited about it in the moment."
00:02:11.520 | How do we shift that self-identity?
00:02:13.540 | And as longtime listeners of the show know,
00:02:16.280 | I really do see discipline as an identity.
00:02:19.500 | It is not something you do, it is an identity.
00:02:23.180 | You see yourself as someone who is disciplined
00:02:26.600 | or you don't, that requires some cultivation.
00:02:29.620 | So at the very bottom of the deep life stack,
00:02:32.200 | and this is why I've highlighted this,
00:02:33.940 | you would get started by putting some elements
00:02:37.440 | into your life that require discipline to accomplish.
00:02:41.400 | And it doesn't really matter
00:02:43.620 | when we're first beginning here what these are.
00:02:48.140 | You just wanna push them to be past what's trivial
00:02:52.400 | but still south of intractable.
00:02:55.600 | So where you're starting from might depend
00:02:57.760 | where how ambitious these initial bits of discipline are.
00:03:02.360 | So this is where you might say,
00:03:03.280 | "Look, I'm gonna train for a 5K.
00:03:06.760 | "I am going to read five books a month."
00:03:09.520 | You're trying to find something
00:03:10.920 | that's gonna require some discipline.
00:03:12.000 | I'm gonna overhaul my nutrition.
00:03:13.360 | I'm gonna do something new.
00:03:14.680 | I'm gonna do this workout routine,
00:03:15.820 | try to hit a streak on Peloton, whatever it is.
00:03:18.600 | You're calibrating it to where you are.
00:03:20.360 | And I don't really care at first the content
00:03:23.120 | of these things you're pursuing with discipline.
00:03:25.560 | This is identity formation.
00:03:27.600 | And that's where we get started.
00:03:28.560 | You take a couple of things in your life.
00:03:30.960 | You say, "How can I make progress on this every day?"
00:03:33.280 | And if it's too hard, you find something easier
00:03:35.120 | until you can move up to something harder
00:03:36.600 | but you're establishing discipline.
00:03:38.280 | The second piece here is you're going to establish
00:03:43.040 | your route for everything we're about to do.
00:03:45.680 | A directory, a folder, a drawer in a desk
00:03:49.120 | where it's gonna be the one place where you keep track
00:03:51.460 | of everything that you've committed to do in your life,
00:03:53.620 | your rules, your systems, your goals.
00:03:55.400 | So that you're going to initialize this route
00:03:57.880 | to your ultimate life planning processes
00:04:00.640 | with these initial discipline projects.
00:04:02.240 | So at the beginning, you could just have a folder
00:04:04.400 | on your desktop, you could have a drawer
00:04:06.000 | where you're just writing down, here's my disciplines.
00:04:08.480 | I'm working on these two things.
00:04:09.720 | Here's what I do every day towards them.
00:04:12.080 | This is going to grow as we move through the deep life stack
00:04:14.640 | but you're establishing here in the discipline step.
00:04:17.080 | Here's where I keep track of what I commit to.
00:04:19.480 | And you're starting to practice having commitments
00:04:21.220 | that are about long-term value,
00:04:22.640 | not what you wanna do in the short term.
00:04:25.640 | So already we're a little bit different
00:04:27.640 | than standard thinking about lifestyle designs
00:04:30.200 | because we're not starting with the decisions.
00:04:32.480 | We're not starting with the let's quit my job.
00:04:36.040 | I wanna move to the country.
00:04:38.020 | We're recognizing that there is some effacement
00:04:41.280 | that has to happen first.
00:04:42.720 | There's some preparation that has to happen first.
00:04:44.700 | We don't wanna jump into the decisions
00:04:47.280 | till we've developed the self first.
00:04:50.480 | So that's the first layer of the stack.
00:04:51.640 | All right, so once that's going,
00:04:53.320 | I have a couple of things and I've impressed myself.
00:04:56.240 | I'm doing these, I didn't think I could.
00:04:58.040 | I am capable of discipline
00:04:59.640 | and I have a centralized place now
00:05:01.360 | to keep track of what I'm doing.
00:05:03.200 | We move on to the next layer.
00:05:05.840 | I'll write this in here.
00:05:07.040 | We'll call this values.
00:05:11.700 | All right, so yet we're not yet the choosing
00:05:14.760 | to quit your job.
00:05:15.600 | We're not yet the moving.
00:05:16.800 | Values is where you are going to establish
00:05:21.120 | what it is that is important to you.
00:05:23.360 | What are the truths that exist
00:05:25.240 | rooted outside of just your own preferences
00:05:27.720 | around which you were going to structure your life?
00:05:31.880 | This is committing to what is important to you.
00:05:34.140 | There's three pieces to figuring out
00:05:35.880 | what your values are gonna be.
00:05:37.400 | I'll write them all three down and then we'll talk about it.
00:05:41.200 | Code, rituals, routines.
00:05:49.360 | So code is actually figuring out,
00:05:50.960 | this is my code that I live by.
00:05:54.240 | I strive to do this.
00:05:55.520 | I will never do this.
00:05:56.960 | I have integrity.
00:05:58.100 | I am honest.
00:05:59.040 | I will prioritize the protection of others, whatever it is.
00:06:03.100 | This is where you make that clear.
00:06:04.720 | I have a code by which I live
00:06:06.720 | and all of my decisions are gonna come back
00:06:09.020 | and make sure that they satisfy this code.
00:06:11.100 | All my big decisions, all my short-term actions
00:06:14.480 | will live by this code.
00:06:16.040 | The code should be something that forces you
00:06:18.360 | on occasion to do things that are hard or scary
00:06:20.600 | in the moment, to move away
00:06:21.640 | what might be in your best interest,
00:06:23.240 | but you have a code written down.
00:06:26.340 | Then you have rituals recorded,
00:06:28.680 | some sort of rituals that you commit to
00:06:32.320 | that help just reinforce in your life
00:06:34.200 | what it is that you value and take seriously.
00:06:38.280 | Finally, you're gonna have routines,
00:06:39.760 | things you do on a regular basis
00:06:42.240 | that ensure that you are supporting these values
00:06:45.440 | that are encoded in your code
00:06:46.760 | that make sure that you are pursuing them,
00:06:49.720 | reflecting the things you value in your everyday life.
00:06:54.320 | Now, of course, the most obvious pre-packaged answer
00:06:57.800 | to these three things would be a traditional religion.
00:07:00.360 | So if you are already religious,
00:07:02.040 | that's gonna make it very easy for you to figure out code
00:07:04.200 | or rituals and routines.
00:07:05.340 | For if you're religious, the ritual is gonna involve,
00:07:07.400 | for example, let's say you're a Muslim,
00:07:10.320 | it might involve daily prayer ritual
00:07:12.800 | as a way of reinforcing and reminding yourself
00:07:15.840 | of your relationship to God.
00:07:18.080 | Routines might involve things
00:07:19.880 | that your religion asks you to do,
00:07:22.040 | such as some sort of charitable giving on a regular basis
00:07:25.960 | to go out and serve others in the community,
00:07:29.080 | but you don't have to have a religion
00:07:31.120 | to fill in code rituals and routines.
00:07:33.000 | You can do so on your own.
00:07:34.840 | The thing I wanna emphasize here
00:07:36.320 | is don't worry so much about getting this exactly right,
00:07:39.020 | because when we're done with this stack,
00:07:41.360 | we're gonna add one final piece, which is iterate.
00:07:44.580 | So you come to the stack where you are
00:07:46.200 | in your life right now,
00:07:47.560 | and you can expect that might change and evolve
00:07:49.960 | as time goes on.
00:07:52.160 | Now, everything you're gonna figure out here for values
00:07:54.960 | gets recorded in that system you set up
00:07:58.280 | during the first level of the stack, during discipline.
00:08:00.740 | That's why I'm drawing an arrow back down there.
00:08:03.420 | That's where you record, here's my code,
00:08:05.040 | the things I value, things I don't,
00:08:07.080 | how I plan to live my life.
00:08:08.580 | That's where you record your rituals.
00:08:11.120 | I meditate every morning.
00:08:12.460 | I read a book of philosophy,
00:08:13.900 | one book per month.
00:08:15.520 | I observe Shabbat as a time to reflect, whatever it is.
00:08:19.560 | It's where the routines go in.
00:08:23.160 | I volunteer every month.
00:08:25.840 | I, whatever it is actually gonna be,
00:08:28.840 | and I go to services, whatever it is,
00:08:31.560 | this is all written down,
00:08:32.760 | and you have a central place for it
00:08:34.240 | because you set that up in discipline.
00:08:37.000 | These two things, these first two layers of the stack,
00:08:39.680 | discipline and values,
00:08:41.100 | this now becomes our safety net foundation.
00:08:44.480 | Before we go up, the things that are gonna follow
00:08:46.320 | are gonna be a little bit more complicated and ambitious,
00:08:48.980 | but if everything else falls apart in your life,
00:08:51.460 | your professional system goes apart,
00:08:53.520 | there's health or sickness issues,
00:08:55.420 | your life takes a turn, there's some sort of disaster,
00:08:59.160 | the two levels that will always be there
00:09:01.080 | for you to fall down on will be discipline plus values.
00:09:04.360 | So this is very important.
00:09:05.640 | The idea that I can do things that are hard
00:09:08.580 | when it's in my long-term interest
00:09:10.120 | or the interest of my values, even if I don't want to,
00:09:11.960 | I'm capable of doing this, and I know what I'm all about,
00:09:14.960 | what is my code, and I'm able to build my life around it,
00:09:18.000 | that is your insurance for disaster.
00:09:20.320 | That is your insurance against everything else going wrong.
00:09:22.600 | If everything else we're about to talk about unravels,
00:09:25.160 | you will be able to fall back on that,
00:09:27.760 | and that's gonna give you a soft landing,
00:09:29.960 | and it's gonna give you a foundation
00:09:31.040 | in which you will eventually be able to rebuild.
00:09:33.440 | All right, so now we're gonna head towards a layer
00:09:36.960 | where we're getting a little bit more
00:09:38.960 | into the traditional design, life design type waters,
00:09:43.740 | and that's gonna be what I call calm.
00:09:45.780 | So the goal with calm is to gain control over your life
00:09:55.320 | and to leverage that control
00:09:59.260 | to give yourself breathing room.
00:10:00.860 | So it's the calm level of the stack
00:10:03.960 | where you are actually going to start thinking
00:10:06.360 | about organizational productivity systems.
00:10:08.880 | How do I keep track of the different obligations
00:10:11.040 | in my professional life and my personal life?
00:10:13.700 | How do I plan?
00:10:14.760 | How do I manage my time?
00:10:16.160 | This is all about I have control.
00:10:18.200 | I'm not just stumbling reactively through life.
00:10:22.640 | I have some control of what's going on.
00:10:24.240 | Now, once you have control, I'm organizing things,
00:10:26.400 | I can build out smart plans,
00:10:28.360 | I can now see much more clearly the relationship
00:10:31.440 | between my implicit workload,
00:10:34.000 | my tacit obligations and my schedule.
00:10:36.800 | Now you have a really good sense of,
00:10:38.400 | is this reasonable or not?
00:10:39.720 | Or how much can I actually have on my plate
00:10:41.960 | before I begin to get stressed out?
00:10:43.200 | And you can leverage this control
00:10:44.400 | to start doing some minimalism,
00:10:47.160 | to start taking some things off of your plate,
00:10:49.240 | to simplify aspects of your commitments
00:10:51.400 | in your personal life, in your family life,
00:10:53.120 | in your professional life.
00:10:54.320 | The goal here is I have control of my time.
00:10:57.480 | I've pruned my schedule to the degree
00:11:00.720 | that I have some flexibility and breathing room.
00:11:03.480 | And I am now ready to start thinking
00:11:06.300 | about some bigger picture changes.
00:11:08.880 | 'Cause if we get to the final stack,
00:11:10.280 | which is where you do the fun stuff,
00:11:12.400 | where you move to the farm,
00:11:13.760 | if you get to that final stack
00:11:15.880 | and your life is chaotic and you're overwhelmed
00:11:18.400 | and you're busy and exhausted and fatigued,
00:11:21.080 | there's not gonna be room for you to do what you need to do.
00:11:23.240 | There's not gonna be room for you to reflect.
00:11:25.600 | There's not gonna be room for you to pursue the disciplines
00:11:28.000 | and values that lay under it.
00:11:29.560 | And there's not gonna be room
00:11:30.520 | to actually make the big changes.
00:11:32.120 | If you don't control your life,
00:11:33.200 | you also are not gonna be able
00:11:34.600 | to build up the career capital
00:11:37.160 | you'll probably need to execute some of these ideas.
00:11:39.760 | The more you're killing it at work,
00:11:43.080 | because you control your time and your obligations
00:11:46.000 | and you can give things the time they need,
00:11:47.800 | the more options you're gonna have to transform that work.
00:11:49.800 | This is true in a lot of different elements as well.
00:11:51.960 | And so this is again,
00:11:52.800 | something you don't always see
00:11:54.760 | when the discussion of lifestyle design,
00:11:56.120 | but I think it's foundational.
00:11:57.520 | I'm throwing it in there.
00:11:59.080 | Calm, I'm under control.
00:12:01.160 | These three things, if you're starting from scratch,
00:12:04.000 | might take a while, by the way.
00:12:05.960 | This might be the work of six months to a year
00:12:08.360 | to build the first three layers.
00:12:09.960 | But once you have, you get to the final stack here,
00:12:12.920 | the final layer of the stack,
00:12:14.360 | which I call plan.
00:12:17.960 | And this finally is where we get back
00:12:22.960 | to more familiar territory.
00:12:24.040 | This is where we get back
00:12:24.880 | towards the deep life buckets territory.
00:12:28.040 | This is where you divide your life
00:12:29.440 | into the major areas that are important to you
00:12:32.200 | and start to think through,
00:12:34.720 | what does my life look like in each of these areas?
00:12:37.200 | What changes do I want to make?
00:12:39.200 | And you don't have to overhaul everything at the same time,
00:12:41.640 | but maybe you look at community,
00:12:44.560 | so your relationship with your family and friends,
00:12:46.640 | those who are important to you and say,
00:12:48.000 | "Okay, let's start overhauling this.
00:12:50.800 | "What do I want this aspect of my life to look like?
00:12:52.720 | "Where does it fall short?
00:12:53.680 | "What type of changes would I need to make
00:12:56.120 | "to better fulfill my values here?"
00:12:58.760 | And this is where you might make the bigger change.
00:13:00.680 | You move to be closer to family.
00:13:02.360 | You commit the community organizations.
00:13:05.040 | Maybe craft, of course, would be a big one here.
00:13:07.000 | Your job, "Okay, let me really think about my job.
00:13:08.920 | "What's going on here?
00:13:09.760 | "Is it overwhelming me?
00:13:10.960 | "Is it compatible with the other things I care about?
00:13:13.880 | "Maybe I want to hatch a plan to transform this job
00:13:17.320 | "into something that's gonna better support
00:13:18.560 | "my vision for my life."
00:13:20.040 | All of this happens here.
00:13:21.080 | The buckets, lifestyle, center, career planning,
00:13:23.000 | all of this is squeezed into the top layer out of four
00:13:26.840 | in the deep life stack.
00:13:28.800 | And this really is the big innovation
00:13:31.240 | between the way we used to talk about it
00:13:33.160 | and the way we're talking about it now.
00:13:36.800 | If discipline, values, and calm is foundational,
00:13:41.360 | and if we ignore that, whatever we do up in plan
00:13:44.400 | is gonna be haphazard and be very likely to fizzle.
00:13:49.040 | We try to make some big change,
00:13:50.520 | but if we don't have anything else nailed down,
00:13:52.680 | we're building this big change,
00:13:54.080 | this new conceptual structure for our life on top of sand.
00:13:56.400 | That foundation is not strong enough.
00:13:59.160 | I'm gonna add a couple more arrows here
00:14:00.480 | because again, throughout each of these stacks,
00:14:04.240 | where do your decisions go?
00:14:05.680 | Back into that central repository you set up
00:14:09.080 | during the discipline level.
00:14:11.240 | These are my organizational systems for calm.
00:14:14.280 | This is what I'm working on right now.
00:14:16.240 | I'm working on my craft bucket, and here's my vision.
00:14:19.280 | So in that discipline step, that all got set up.
00:14:21.960 | Now the number of disciplines,
00:14:23.360 | the things that you are pursuing regularly
00:14:25.400 | that you're committed to,
00:14:26.240 | that also increases as you move up the stack.
00:14:28.800 | Values adds rituals and routines
00:14:30.760 | to your list of disciplines.
00:14:31.840 | Calm adds organizational systems
00:14:33.440 | to your list of disciplines.
00:14:34.680 | Plan might add bucket specific keystone habits
00:14:37.760 | to your list of disciplines.
00:14:39.160 | So everything down there grows.
00:14:40.760 | The description of your systems,
00:14:41.880 | the descriptions of your discipline commitments,
00:14:43.400 | that all grows as you move up the stack.
00:14:47.480 | So I have these arrows pointing back down.
00:14:50.360 | And then finally, once you've made it
00:14:52.800 | through the whole stack,
00:14:54.480 | I'm gonna draw one last arrow here,
00:14:57.000 | you are going to iterate.
00:14:59.120 | Which means you return back towards the bottom
00:15:02.440 | and refactor, focusing on what needs the most work.
00:15:07.800 | So you've made it through the whole stack,
00:15:11.200 | enjoy that for a while.
00:15:12.680 | Then you're gonna iterate back down again.
00:15:13.920 | Okay, let's go back down the discipline.
00:15:15.200 | How is this going?
00:15:16.240 | If I cleaned up my description on my systems
00:15:19.120 | and my disciplines,
00:15:19.960 | are there stuff hanging around here I don't do anymore?
00:15:21.360 | Let me clean that up,
00:15:22.200 | make sure the way I'm tracking this goes well.
00:15:24.360 | Am I committing discipline to the things I said I am?
00:15:27.520 | If I'm not, do I have too many things in here?
00:15:29.000 | Do I need to clean that up?
00:15:29.880 | Okay, we're good, let's move up the values.
00:15:31.760 | Am I liking my current code?
00:15:33.520 | The rituals I have in place to help reinforce the code,
00:15:35.680 | the routines I have to put that code
00:15:37.160 | into action in the world.
00:15:38.760 | Am I ready to tweak that?
00:15:39.920 | Do I wanna make a major change?
00:15:41.840 | Am I maybe at first earlier in my life,
00:15:43.960 | these were self-imposed and in middle age with a family,
00:15:46.480 | they're gonna be more tied to a formal theology.
00:15:49.480 | So you're going back and checking that out.
00:15:50.920 | You're going up to calm.
00:15:52.520 | How are my systems going for organization?
00:15:54.160 | Oh, maybe they're going well.
00:15:55.280 | What about my load?
00:15:56.120 | You know, I feel overloaded.
00:15:57.440 | Great, so as I revisit that stack,
00:15:59.120 | I'm gonna make some more cuts
00:16:01.280 | on the things that I'm committed to or pursuing.
00:16:03.200 | And you can back up the plan.
00:16:04.240 | You might say, I'm gonna look
00:16:05.080 | at another bucket more carefully.
00:16:06.720 | I looked at craft last time,
00:16:08.000 | but I really wanna now think about celebration,
00:16:11.040 | sort of quality in my life.
00:16:12.560 | That's iteration.
00:16:13.520 | You go back through the whole stack,
00:16:15.120 | checking at each layer,
00:16:16.600 | spending time on the layers that need time
00:16:18.640 | before moving on to the next.
00:16:20.760 | You probably wanna do this once a year.
00:16:22.280 | I recommend using your birthday as the anchor for this.
00:16:25.840 | Different years, you're gonna stop
00:16:27.400 | and spend more time on different layers than others.
00:16:30.000 | Sometimes everything might be rock and rolling,
00:16:31.800 | so you're just tweaking on your way up
00:16:33.120 | and it takes you a couple of weeks, no problem.
00:16:35.520 | Sometimes you're gonna lose the next six months
00:16:37.240 | of your years of really reflectively rethinking your life,
00:16:39.600 | but this structures the way you think about that.
00:16:42.000 | It structures the way you go through trying to refactor
00:16:44.520 | or tighten up what's actually going on
00:16:47.360 | in your day-to-day existence.
00:16:48.840 | So this is what I'm thinking about now.
00:16:52.040 | This is my generalization
00:16:53.480 | of what used to just be the deep life buckets,
00:16:55.160 | the deep life stack.
00:16:58.080 | It's equal parts psychology as it is practical habit,
00:17:03.080 | as it is visionary planning.
00:17:05.760 | All of those things are now mixed together
00:17:08.160 | in a more structured way.
00:17:10.360 | This also reflects more carefully or closely,
00:17:13.000 | I should say, what I actually do in my own life,
00:17:15.520 | the way I think these things through,
00:17:16.760 | the way I order these things.
00:17:18.200 | So I'm interested in your thoughts.
00:17:21.440 | Are we improving or have we overcomplicated?
00:17:24.640 | I still have time to think about this,
00:17:26.440 | so feel free to send it through.
00:17:27.960 | I don't know, Jesse, am I adding too much complication
00:17:30.160 | or are we getting to some levels we actually needed
00:17:34.440 | for thinking about this topic?
00:17:35.960 | - I think it goes in hand with what you've talked about
00:17:40.160 | before in terms of stacks and discipline
00:17:43.960 | and metric tracking.
00:17:45.120 | So like the metric tracking on the time block planner
00:17:47.000 | would be in that level.
00:17:48.320 | - Yeah, it becomes a discipline.
00:17:50.400 | Right, the time block planner
00:17:52.520 | is something you might introduce as calm.
00:17:55.160 | The metric planning is installed in the discipline stack.
00:17:59.240 | - Yeah. - Yeah.
00:18:00.600 | Yeah, I think one of the things I was underestimating,
00:18:04.400 | so in addition to just the psychological preparation,
00:18:08.320 | was I take for granted structure and organization
00:18:10.920 | in my life.
00:18:12.040 | And it's something we hear from listeners a lot,
00:18:14.360 | is if you are not organized and structured
00:18:18.240 | in how you manage just even the minutia of your life,
00:18:20.920 | it's actually really difficult to do anything big.
00:18:23.040 | - Yeah.
00:18:23.880 | - It feels impossible or if you try it,
00:18:26.320 | it's not gonna go well because you're just throwing
00:18:28.480 | a big change in an already chaotic situation.
00:18:31.440 | - Yeah, you've had that in place for a really long time.
00:18:34.040 | - Yeah, and that's why I take it for granted.
00:18:35.760 | - Yeah.
00:18:36.600 | - But I think for a lot of people,
00:18:37.480 | I was thinking, if I'm gonna write a book
00:18:38.440 | about the deep life, I can't jump into,
00:18:41.680 | let's overhaul your job,
00:18:44.200 | when there's someone who has never actually had
00:18:45.920 | any sort of coherent organizational system
00:18:48.600 | to any part of their life.
00:18:49.880 | It's impossible, until you feel that you control
00:18:52.040 | your life in that breathing room,
00:18:53.040 | it's very difficult to imagine making a big change.
00:18:56.280 | And we're gonna see that,
00:18:58.200 | the questions I chose for today's episode
00:18:59.800 | are all deep life related.
00:19:01.240 | So issues and questions about people pursuing the deep life.
00:19:04.640 | And we're gonna see some of that in the questions.
00:19:07.120 | There's at least one I have in mind where someone is,
00:19:10.360 | they're coming to what you would think about
00:19:12.040 | as the plan level of the stack,
00:19:14.320 | with the other levels not in place,
00:19:16.280 | and it just feels impossible to them.
00:19:17.720 | - Yeah, I mean, a lot of that has come down
00:19:19.480 | to your time management system.
00:19:21.320 | - Yeah. - Yeah.
00:19:22.240 | - Yeah, how do you keep track of your time?
00:19:24.040 | Then how do you manage your obligations?
00:19:26.320 | And how do you then prune those obligations, right?
00:19:29.680 | It's very difficult to keep breathing room in your life,
00:19:33.000 | if you can't control the stuff that's taking away the air.
00:19:36.040 | If you don't control it, you're just grabbing.
00:19:38.880 | It's very hard to get at things or organize things
00:19:41.720 | or move things out of the way.
00:19:42.960 | It's very paradoxical, 'cause people say,
00:19:45.520 | "I don't wanna be so, I don't have time
00:19:47.960 | to do all these systems and be so rigid,
00:19:50.400 | and then my whole life will be planning."
00:19:52.040 | But it's exactly the people that make a structure
00:19:56.560 | for the stuff in their life that have the flexibility.
00:19:59.400 | - Yeah. - That have the breathing room,
00:20:00.920 | that have their feet up by the lake and are reading.
00:20:03.560 | It's this misnomer that somehow having organization
00:20:06.480 | will mean your time is more filled.
00:20:08.240 | It's actually the key to actually gain back time,
00:20:12.040 | to find time affluence, to take some flexibility.
00:20:14.680 | - It's your boy, Jaco, discipline equals freedom.
00:20:17.160 | - Yeah, well, that term is, yeah, definitely motivating
00:20:20.840 | or an inspiration here, discipline at the base.
00:20:23.600 | - Provides the freedom to do other things.
00:20:25.360 | - It does. - Read five books a month.
00:20:26.920 | - And that was the other breakthrough I'm thinking,
00:20:28.520 | because I've found this working with people,
00:20:30.600 | just finding that one or two things,
00:20:32.040 | that's the place to start.
00:20:33.680 | I'm doing this thing, I'm working on it every day,
00:20:35.440 | it's hard, it's optional, I don't wanna do it in the moment.
00:20:38.720 | Long-term, I did it, I succeeded.
00:20:41.520 | That psychological switch,
00:20:43.880 | that's so important to everything else.
00:20:45.800 | So we'll see, so I'm working on it,
00:20:48.280 | but it's one idea for how I might structure
00:20:50.240 | my deep life book.