back to indexIs Enjoying God the Same as Glorifying God?
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Are those different things or are they the same thing? 00:00:10.000 |
It's a really good question for you today, Pastor John, who joins us remotely over Skype today. 00:00:15.000 |
Here's the question as it comes in to us from a listener named Roland. 00:00:19.000 |
"Hello, Pastor John. I have a question about enjoying Jesus versus glorifying Jesus. 00:00:24.000 |
It seems like enjoying Jesus Christ would look like fellowship and communion with Him, 00:00:30.000 |
a relatively private matter between Jesus and me, 00:00:34.000 |
but glorifying Jesus Christ sounds more like observable works and words that show the watching world His worth. 00:00:42.000 |
These two things seem to feed one another rather than being the same thing. 00:00:47.000 |
But I've listened to APJ long enough to suspect that you'd reach a different conclusion, 00:00:52.000 |
but I can't seem to piece this all together. Can you help me understand their relationship?" 00:00:59.000 |
Well, not an entirely different conclusion. (laughter) 00:01:03.000 |
Let's start with a quick clarification about everything else that follows, just to preempt a misunderstanding. 00:01:10.000 |
When I speak of enjoying Jesus or glorifying Jesus, 00:01:15.000 |
I mean in both cases enjoying Him for who He really is and glorifying Him for who He really is. 00:01:26.000 |
I don't have in mind an enjoyment or a glorification of some popular notion of Jesus that is not who He really is. 00:01:38.000 |
So there, that's the beginning clarification. 00:01:41.000 |
Now, with that set up clarification behind us, let's begin with a hearty affirmation of Roland's thoughtfulness here. 00:01:52.000 |
Roland is right that glorifying Jesus and enjoying Jesus are not identical. 00:02:01.000 |
He's also right that enjoying Jesus is in its essence a private experience of the heart 00:02:09.000 |
and glorifying Jesus in its essence is the offering of evidence to others that Jesus is glorious. 00:02:19.000 |
Now, given those two definitions, there is nevertheless at least one situation in which 00:02:27.000 |
enjoying Jesus and glorifying Jesus become one thing, 00:02:32.000 |
namely in the situation where my heart can be seen by someone else, even though my body is totally inactive. 00:02:43.000 |
For example, I might be a paraplegic with no muscles working at all, not even my facial muscles. 00:02:53.000 |
If someone could see my heart in that situation and see my heart experiencing joy in Jesus, 00:03:03.000 |
that joy at that moment would be an instance of glorifying Jesus, 00:03:09.000 |
because my definition of glorifying Jesus was offering evidence to others that Jesus is glorious, 00:03:18.000 |
and they'd be seeing that, and it would be evidence to them. 00:03:21.000 |
My goodness, there's joy in there, and he can't move a muscle. 00:03:27.000 |
And there are at least three others, three other persons who can always see my heart, 00:03:37.000 |
namely God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. 00:03:44.000 |
So, if my heart is enjoying Jesus, at least three other persons see evidence that Jesus is glorious, 00:03:56.000 |
and glorious to me, because enjoying Jesus for who he really is, 00:04:02.000 |
especially in times of suffering, is real evidence that Jesus is glorious, 00:04:09.000 |
if someone can see it, and someone can always see it. 00:04:15.000 |
There's another reason why enjoying Jesus and glorifying Jesus need to be distinguished. 00:04:23.000 |
That is not treated as identical, and it's because there are ways that God is glorified, 00:04:34.000 |
or Jesus is glorified by a person's existence, even when the heart of that person is not enjoying him. 00:04:43.000 |
For example, Pharaoh was raised up by God to glorify God's power, which he did, 00:04:52.000 |
but not by enjoying that power, but by simply being the object of God's powerful and righteous wrath. 00:04:59.000 |
So, Exodus 9, 16, God says, "For this purpose I have raised you up, 00:05:07.000 |
to show in you my power, so that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth." 00:05:15.000 |
So, Pharaoh glorified God's power and name, but not because he enjoyed either of them, 00:05:24.000 |
but because his destruction became the evidence of God's glorious power. 00:05:32.000 |
So, when I say God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in him, 00:05:41.000 |
I'm not saying that God is glorified by a person's existence only when that person is satisfied in him. 00:05:52.000 |
God was glorified by Pharaoh's existence. His life was an evidence to others that God is powerful. 00:06:00.000 |
But Pharaoh was not satisfied in God or his power. 00:06:05.000 |
So, the words "in us" are very important when I say God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in him. 00:06:18.000 |
And I realize, every time somebody asks me a question, I get more clarity about this. 00:06:23.000 |
I realize that with the words "in us," I have created a confusion, at least for Roland, 00:06:31.000 |
namely that glorifying God might be something totally private in us, 00:06:39.000 |
without giving any evidence to anyone outside of us that God is glorious. 00:06:45.000 |
And I'm trying to clarify, that's not the case. That's not what I mean. 00:06:51.000 |
I want to say glorifying God or glorifying Jesus always involves giving some evidence to other persons 00:07:01.000 |
that God is glorious, beautiful, valuable, great, satisfying. 00:07:07.000 |
Now let me make one more clarification, or take our clarification one step further. 00:07:15.000 |
I said earlier that enjoying God and glorifying God are not identical. 00:07:20.000 |
Yet, the whole burden of my theology, Christian hedonism, 00:07:26.000 |
is that any attempt to glorify God that is godly or spirit-guided or gracious or faith-rooted or pleasing to God, 00:07:39.000 |
any attempt to glorify God must come from a heart that is at least in possession of a mustard seed of being genuinely satisfied in God. 00:07:51.000 |
If our hearts are totally devoid of enjoying God, our hearts cannot attempt to glorify God in a way that pleases Him and makes Him look beautiful. 00:08:05.000 |
And the more fully our hearts are satisfied in God, the more fully God will be glorified in our outward behavior. 00:08:16.000 |
Now when I say that, I'm thinking of Matthew 5.16 by way of illustration. 00:08:23.000 |
Jesus said, "Let your light so shine before others so that they may see your good works and glorify your Father who is in heaven." 00:08:35.000 |
Now that fits perfectly with Raymond's comment that glorifying God sounds more like observable works and words 00:08:45.000 |
than a private inner experience. And that's what Jesus is saying here. 00:08:50.000 |
People will see your good works and glorify God. Your good works will give visible evidence that God is glorious. 00:09:01.000 |
Now what Christian hedonism points out, relentlessly points out, 00:09:06.000 |
is that good works done from a heart with no satisfaction in Jesus are not God glorifying good works. 00:09:17.000 |
They are not putting God's glory and God's worth on display. 00:09:22.000 |
Because the heart that is doing them feels no glory, feels no worth in God. 00:09:29.000 |
Thousands of unbelievers do that kind of good works, the kind that Paul described in 1 Corinthians 13. 00:09:36.000 |
"If I give away all that I have and deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing." 00:09:42.000 |
Jesus did not admire these kinds of good works. 00:09:46.000 |
"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, you clean the outside of the cup." 00:09:53.000 |
That means you do lots of good things. They look really good, squeaky clean good things. 00:09:58.000 |
And the plate is clean on the outside, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 00:10:05.000 |
So this outside veneer of good works is not coming from the enjoyment of God, 00:10:15.000 |
And right here in Matthew 5, there is evidence that the good works which glorify God in verse 16, 00:10:26.000 |
Remember, Jesus had just said, what, four verses earlier, 00:10:30.000 |
"Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account." 00:10:37.000 |
And then he says this absolutely crazy and glorious thing. 00:10:40.000 |
"Rejoice and be glad, for great is your reward in heaven." 00:10:45.000 |
So, your heart can rejoice in hardship, in persecution, because of the promise of heaven. 00:10:52.000 |
You will be with God and you will be overwhelmingly rewarded and satisfied. 00:10:58.000 |
And then he says, "You're the salt of the earth. You're the light of the world." 00:11:04.000 |
Which I think means the world desperately needs the flavor and the brightness of people so satisfied in God, 00:11:11.000 |
they can rejoice in suffering. That's a weird and glorious, beautiful kind of human being. 00:11:16.000 |
And then he says, "Let that salt be tasted. Let that light shine in your good deeds." 00:11:23.000 |
That is, let the taste and the brightness of your God-satisfied heart be seen in your... 00:11:31.000 |
Then your good deeds will have the flavor that really makes God look valuable. 00:11:38.000 |
So, God is most glorified in you when you are most satisfied in him means, 00:11:45.000 |
both that the heart itself, when satisfied in God, is good evidence to God, 00:11:54.000 |
who sees the heart, that he is glorious in your eyes. 00:11:58.000 |
And it means that the heart satisfied in God will produce a public brightness 00:12:08.000 |
and a taste in the way it responds to suffering and in the way it does good deeds. 00:12:15.000 |
Thank you, Pastor John, for breaking that down for us. 00:12:18.000 |
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by looking at the power of singing in the physical battle of 2 Chronicles 20. 00:12:48.000 |
This is a really important point Pastor John draws out of the text, 00:12:56.000 |
I'm Tony Reinke. We'll see you back here on Wednesday. Thanks for listening.