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Hello everybody, it's Sam from Financial Samurai. 00:00:03.000 |
And in this episode, I want to talk about whether this is as good as it gets. 00:00:09.360 |
We've got the S&P 500 up about 20% year to date. 00:00:13.180 |
We get to borrow at a negative real interest rate. 00:00:17.400 |
So in other words, when inflation is higher than the interest cost, you saw November CPI 00:00:25.020 |
If you take out a 3% mortgage, your negative real interest rate is 3.8%. 00:00:30.840 |
And that's just like getting paid to borrow money while your asset goes up. 00:00:36.060 |
And then finally, we've got IBON returns guaranteed by the government at 7.14% through April 22, 00:00:45.940 |
And then it just changes based on whatever the index is after that. 00:00:50.720 |
So 7.14% is a positive real return and it's also guaranteed. 00:00:57.120 |
So on the one hand, you got guaranteed positive real returns and you can borrow at negative 00:01:04.260 |
That is a tremendous combination that everybody needs to take advantage of. 00:01:08.760 |
You can only buy $10,000 worth of IBONs per person. 00:01:12.700 |
And if you have a business, you can buy $10,000 as well. 00:01:15.740 |
So theoretically, if it was you two, a couple, and you both each had businesses, you could 00:01:21.360 |
buy $40,000 worth of IBONs in December of one year and another $40,000 in January of 00:01:30.240 |
That's $80,000 where you can get a 7.14% return. 00:01:33.840 |
That's like getting $5,600 of guaranteed money. 00:01:38.220 |
So let me talk a little bit further about what negative real mortgage rates means. 00:01:43.700 |
That means to me, at least over the next 6 months, probably 12 months, that there's going 00:01:49.360 |
to be a tremendous tailwind in the real estate market. 00:01:52.780 |
If you're getting paid to borrow money, you're going to borrow more money. 00:01:57.000 |
And if you already have a lot of debt or any debt, the rational thing to do is to hold 00:02:02.180 |
on to that debt as long as possible instead of paying down extra principal. 00:02:08.040 |
I think paying down debt over time is a good thing. 00:02:10.940 |
We should all strive to be debt free by the time we are maybe 60, no longer want to work 00:02:17.680 |
However, debt enables you to live a better life than you could have otherwise because 00:02:22.760 |
it allows you to buy things beyond what your cash can afford. 00:02:29.240 |
I think it was in 2015 on a mortgage I took out in 2003. 00:02:34.080 |
And I don't regret paying it off at all, even though I could have made more money in the 00:02:37.560 |
stock market, real estate market and other alternative assets. 00:02:44.280 |
However, if you want to try to optimize as much of your cash as possible, you should 00:02:49.440 |
think about the debt interest rate relative to returns and relative to the inflation rate. 00:02:56.720 |
So unless you have a lot of cash just lying around, I wouldn't pay down extra debt right 00:03:04.120 |
But if you do have a lot of cash, well, just know that it is also getting pounded by inflation 00:03:12.640 |
If you had $100,000 in cash, it basically buys about 6.8% less today than what it could 00:03:21.240 |
And given our finances are always fluid and the market is always fluid, I do recommend 00:03:28.880 |
FSDAIR framework that talks about how much to invest and how much to pay down debt if 00:03:37.160 |
And so for example, if you've got debt interest rate at 2%, I would use 20% of your free cash 00:03:44.360 |
flow to pay down debt and 80% to invest or hold on. 00:03:48.940 |
I don't think negative real interest rates or negative real mortgage rates are going 00:03:56.860 |
And I say two years because I think in 2022, the inflation rate normalizes from about 6.8% 00:04:05.760 |
And then in 2023, it normalizes down to about 3% or 2%. 00:04:10.840 |
So as the inflation rate comes down, and maybe mortgage rates go up, maybe because mortgage 00:04:16.320 |
rates have not really gone up over the past several months, then you'll see a normalizing 00:04:24.080 |
However, based on my forecast, that still means the vast majority of debtors or mortgage 00:04:30.800 |
borrowers are going to have negative real mortgage rates for the next 24 months. 00:04:36.260 |
So in such a scenario, it still provides a positive tailwind for any asset class which 00:04:45.260 |
Therefore, I still remain very positive on real estate. 00:04:57.460 |
But either way, it's probably going to be somewhere similar, right? 00:04:59.860 |
I don't think this supply chain issue and inflation is going to change that quickly, 00:05:05.360 |
So another way to look about a 7.14% IBON return is that your investments need to earn 00:05:18.340 |
Why even be an active manager or manage your money? 00:05:26.940 |
So the way to also think about it is, well, maybe risk assets will definitely return more 00:05:32.740 |
than 7.14% in 2022 or at least through April 2022, because investors are all in cahoots. 00:05:41.120 |
Everything is relative to the risk-free rate. 00:05:43.060 |
Now the true risk-free rate is more like the 10-year bond yield because you can purchase 00:05:49.820 |
However, looking at the IBON return of 7.14% is a fair risk-free rate as well, at least 00:05:58.020 |
So all this is to say that we should probably stay long mostly in risk assets in 2022, even 00:06:04.420 |
though the Fed is tightening and valuations are high. 00:06:08.500 |
Now let's not be naive and expect no correction of 10%, 20% over the next 12 months. 00:06:16.420 |
When you see individual stocks get slaughtered, like in the S&P 500 and the Nasdaq, a lot 00:06:22.580 |
of stocks are down 30%, 40%, 50% while the index is trading off only maybe about 5% from 00:06:30.600 |
So just be careful regarding investing in richly valued assets in 2022. 00:06:37.780 |
Instead of going for triples and home runs, I think we all need to be disciplined to try 00:06:42.260 |
to preserve the capital we have gained, especially since 2020, and we should try to look for 00:06:51.020 |
Singles where if you're at the top of the lineup, you hit the singles so someone can 00:06:54.860 |
clean you up, or singles to just advance the runner and just keep the line moving and keep 00:07:01.740 |
One of the worst things that could happen is if you round trip your investments. 00:07:06.140 |
So round trip means it goes up and then it goes all the way back down to where you bought 00:07:09.680 |
it for during this pandemic, because for most people, the pandemic has negatively affected 00:07:18.900 |
There's, you know, my kids have to wear masks at school. 00:07:25.740 |
But the one positive has been that we've been able to make money or investors have been 00:07:31.500 |
So if you go through a negative in life because of the pandemic, and then you end up round 00:07:35.940 |
tripping your investments and losing those gains, then you're going to be really, really 00:07:44.900 |
Focus on risk control and focus on appropriate asset allocations going forward. 00:07:51.700 |
If you enjoyed this episode and it has made you think about being a better investor, I'd