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Hello, and welcome to another episode of All The Hacks, a show about upgrading 00:01:43.280 |
your life, money, and travel all while spending less and saving more. 00:01:47.440 |
I'm your host, Chris Hutchins, and I am excited to have you on my journey. 00:01:51.000 |
Today, I'm talking to Jaspreet Singh, who I just met last month at a conference 00:01:56.080 |
called FinCon, where he was one of the keynote speakers. 00:01:59.320 |
He's a first-generation American, a licensed attorney, and he's been an 00:02:04.000 |
But in 2015, he decided he wanted to help others avoid the business and financial 00:02:09.360 |
So with zero subscribers, he posted his first video on YouTube about what he 00:02:15.600 |
Well, it resonated deeply, and he's since turned the minority mindset into a full-on 00:02:20.720 |
financial media company and YouTube channel with over a million subscribers. 00:02:24.480 |
In our conversation, we'll talk about what a minority mindset is and how you 00:02:29.440 |
We'll hear some of the mistakes and learnings Jaspreet's had and his advice 00:02:33.800 |
for getting through the tough early days of any entrepreneurial project. 00:02:37.000 |
And finally, some of his favorite financial tips and hacks. 00:02:40.640 |
So I hope you enjoy this interview with Jaspreet Singh. 00:02:45.720 |
All opinions expressed by Chris and his guests are solely their own opinions and 00:02:51.720 |
This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon for 00:02:59.480 |
Chris, that was an amazing introduction, man. 00:03:04.280 |
So I'm just going to jump in and ask, how do you define the minority mindset? 00:03:10.040 |
The minority mindset is, is literally just a mindset. 00:03:14.360 |
It is the mindset of thinking differently than the majority of people. 00:03:18.040 |
It has nothing to do with the way you look, your ethnicity or your skin color. 00:03:21.320 |
And so for us now talking about that, we focus in on the financial side of the 00:03:27.000 |
I mean, it's thinking differently than the majority of people when it comes to 00:03:30.400 |
Can you talk a little bit about what led you to start thinking this way and build 00:03:36.960 |
Was it your background or how did you come to this? 00:03:39.520 |
Yeah, I mean, I grew up in a very traditional Indian house where 00:03:45.080 |
entrepreneurship, financial education, investing were all topics that I never 00:03:52.080 |
Not only did I not grow up learning about them, but they were actively 00:03:55.760 |
discouraged in my house because, you know, like you said, my parents are 00:03:59.720 |
immigrants and my dad came to this country with less than a hundred bucks. 00:04:06.440 |
And for him, when he wanted me and my brother to become successful, the way 00:04:10.920 |
that they did that in their mind was by having us become doctors. 00:04:15.560 |
So since I was a kid, I was always told that I needed to study hard in school so 00:04:18.480 |
I can become a doctor and anything that wasn't going to help me on my path of 00:04:25.520 |
So even sports weren't that much encouraged when I was a kid, because why 00:04:30.080 |
would you go out and play football when you could be studying to become a doctor 00:04:33.800 |
and doing anything that wasn't really directly correlated with becoming a 00:04:40.120 |
And so I always had this entrepreneurial bug. 00:04:46.840 |
When I was a kid, I was mowing my neighbor's lawns. 00:04:48.760 |
I was delivering newspapers for my neighbors. 00:04:51.920 |
And then when I got into middle school, early high school, I started playing a 00:04:56.480 |
drum called the dhol, an Indian drum at weddings. 00:04:59.240 |
And I was also working on Auntie Anne's pretzels. 00:05:03.240 |
I was making like $5.85 an hour when I worked at Auntie Anne's pretzels, 00:05:08.920 |
because I was under 18, so they could play me below minimum wage. 00:05:11.800 |
And then when I started playing this drum at weddings, at first I was 00:05:15.440 |
charging like $50, $60 an hour, but then I got a little bit better because I 00:05:20.480 |
sucked when I first started, and then I would charge somewhere between $200 to 00:05:24.000 |
$300 an hour, and now I'm like, wait, I got to work for two weeks at the pretzel 00:05:29.200 |
shop to make $200 to $300, but I can make the same money in an hour at a wedding. 00:05:35.600 |
And so that's when I really started to think differently than the majority of 00:05:38.600 |
people and my junior and senior year in high school, I started hosting teen 00:05:44.320 |
parties for kids in my school because I knew a lot of the DJs, then the real 00:05:49.720 |
shift happened when I went to college, because, you know, I didn't really have 00:05:54.960 |
any guidance on what college was like in America and what to expect in college. 00:05:59.960 |
I thought that everybody went to college to study and become super successful, 00:06:04.680 |
because if you study hard in college, you are guaranteed to become successful. 00:06:08.760 |
Well, I go to college and everybody around me is partying. 00:06:13.560 |
I thought you spent your Friday nights in the chemistry lab doing reactions. 00:06:17.760 |
And I got there and I could not believe that people were partying. 00:06:21.560 |
First off, none of you have any money because all y'all are here, the student 00:06:25.760 |
loans, so you're blowing your student loans at these parties. 00:06:32.720 |
I never got into the party scene, like myself partying, but I was like, instead 00:06:36.240 |
of me being like the majority of people and going to all these parties, how 00:06:41.120 |
I was knocking on every club and bar and restaurant at my college, asking 00:06:46.880 |
And I don't have, you know, money to go and buy a venue or rent out a venue. 00:06:51.080 |
So I would ask them to see if we could work something creative out where 00:06:55.920 |
They would get to keep all the revenue from the bar and then they would take 00:07:04.680 |
I started diving into more of real estate investing. 00:07:08.240 |
When I was 19, I bought my first rental property. 00:07:10.360 |
It was funny because it was the day after I took my MCAT, which is the 00:07:16.000 |
And the whole time that I was studying, anytime I took a break, I would go 00:07:20.240 |
onto Yahoo finance and every article talked about how the real estate market 00:07:28.640 |
And I knew nothing about real estate investing. 00:07:31.520 |
The books that I read said that every wealthy person invests in real estate. 00:07:34.600 |
And I knew I wanted to invest in real estate, but I had no one to ask how it 00:07:41.080 |
So like in my breaks of studying for the medical college admission test, I would 00:07:49.160 |
And I took my MCAT on August 22nd and August 23rd, I closed on my first property. 00:07:54.360 |
It was a 1000 square foot condo that the owners had originally bought for like 00:07:59.800 |
$120,000 to $150,000, somewhere in that range, the crash happened. 00:08:05.240 |
Now the bank was selling this property for eight grand. 00:08:12.400 |
And that's where the whole shift really started. 00:08:16.360 |
And at this point you said you were still taking your MCAT. 00:08:19.120 |
Did you still think at this time you were going to be a doctor? 00:08:28.800 |
I was, I knew that I wanted to be an entrepreneur. 00:08:31.960 |
I learned the word entrepreneurship when I was in college. 00:08:34.440 |
And I, and I really related with that, but I'd never thought that I could not be a 00:08:40.440 |
doctor because I felt like I was too deep into it. 00:08:43.200 |
And it's funny saying that now, because I was only 18, 19 years old, but I was like, 00:08:47.560 |
you know, I did all these volunteering hours in high school. 00:08:50.000 |
I did all this job shadowing where I shadowed a whole bunch of doctors. 00:08:56.920 |
I took all the pre-med classes, did the prereqs all the way into pre-med. 00:09:03.480 |
So I didn't know that I had other opportunities or options. 00:09:08.800 |
And it wasn't until after I got this property really taken care of and started 00:09:13.520 |
to rent out that I was like, you know, I like this. 00:09:17.920 |
I like the whole idea of financial education and entrepreneurship. 00:09:23.240 |
And then I also had this dilemma in my mind, because if you become a doctor, the 00:09:30.360 |
And if I'm trying to just maximize the dollars that I can earn, I'm trying to see 00:09:38.920 |
Like if you want to be a doctor, you should be a doctor because you love medicine. 00:09:42.600 |
But I felt like I was going down it for the wrong reasons because I felt like I was 00:09:45.720 |
becoming a doctor because I wanted to make money and I could not be okay with that. 00:09:50.800 |
So that was when I made the decision that I don't want to be a doctor because I was 00:09:55.920 |
So, so even though you might've had that minority mindset on your personal kind of 00:10:02.080 |
college experience, starting parties and that kind of stuff, it was still there on 00:10:06.800 |
the doctor until you crossed that threshold, which I think is something I thought about 00:10:11.280 |
when I was preparing for this was it's easy to say, I want to think differently. 00:10:17.600 |
How do you hold yourself accountable to that? 00:10:19.960 |
Well, it really just goes down to what is your reason for doing whatever it is that 00:10:25.040 |
And for me, my purpose was really giving myself, my parents, my family, the things 00:10:33.040 |
My grandparents were refugees in India, the state of Punjab where we're from was 00:10:39.560 |
When that happened, my grandparents were kicked out of their homes, lost their 00:10:43.360 |
homes, their family members, their friends, they lost everything. 00:10:47.440 |
All they had was the clothes on their back and a sword in their hands. 00:10:51.000 |
And they had to literally now migrate to the new East side of India. 00:10:55.240 |
And if you did not, you were going to be killed. 00:10:57.160 |
And my grandfather saw his uncle get killed in front of them because they got 00:11:01.880 |
attacked by a mob, came to a new country and had to hustle to make it work. 00:11:06.000 |
Then my parents came to this country with next to nothing. 00:11:09.920 |
And my grandparents came here and they helped raise me. 00:11:12.760 |
So I was instilled with these cultural values of understanding the struggle that 00:11:16.960 |
my grandparents went through, seeing the struggle that my parents went through. 00:11:20.160 |
So I wanted to make sure that I could take care of them. 00:11:23.640 |
I always had that instilled in me, which was why I felt like I worked really hard 00:11:27.320 |
in school. I wasn't always the best student, but I always wanted to do the 00:11:31.440 |
right thing because I wanted to give back to my parents and my family. 00:11:34.840 |
And then the next thing was when I decided to be an entrepreneur, I lost all 00:11:41.080 |
support. Everyone thought I was like lost my mind. 00:11:46.680 |
I had family members, uncles and aunts calling me saying, oh, are you sure you 00:11:50.920 |
want to do this? You're throwing away the opportunity to become successful. 00:11:54.200 |
We have these community centers called Gurdwaras, our version of a temple. 00:11:59.600 |
I would go there and the people would be making fun of me like, oh, so you were 00:12:04.280 |
going to be a doctor, but now you're doing these little businesses and stuff. 00:12:07.960 |
And it's like, you know, they were like just like poke jabs at you. 00:12:10.280 |
So that was like the next thing where I was like, you know what, screw you. 00:12:13.520 |
I'm going to prove everybody wrong because I want to be successful, not only 00:12:18.040 |
to take care of my family, but now to show the world that, hey, that you can do 00:12:21.120 |
what you love and be successful doing it if you understand how money works and if 00:12:27.080 |
So for me, it was knowing my purpose or, you know, they say don't do something out 00:12:35.000 |
I wanted to prove everybody wrong because I was just so angry at how I got no 00:12:42.240 |
I mean, it just it angered me so much that when I started learning about 00:12:45.960 |
financial education and money that I had gone through so much schooling, but I 00:12:53.480 |
And how were you feeling during this kind of family is, you know, on top of you? 00:13:00.800 |
I mean, in terms of feelings, I've had a lot of anxiety at that time, and I'm not 00:13:05.160 |
going to lie, because there was that feeling where I was not putting that much 00:13:12.960 |
I went to law school when my parents found out that I wasn't going to be a 00:13:15.760 |
They're like, you have to at least become an attorney. 00:13:19.120 |
I was like, that's okay, because at least with law school, I can go part time and I 00:13:26.920 |
And when I knew that I wasn't putting in my time into school to get a traditional 00:13:33.520 |
job, I knew that I have to be able to support myself and that risk of me 00:13:39.040 |
potentially failing used to keep me up at night, because I'm like, you know, what 00:13:48.840 |
And I used to have a lot of anxiety, but to kind of counterbalance that I worked as 00:13:55.840 |
I mean, I worked my butt off when I was like in college, I was sleeping very, very 00:14:01.080 |
I used to joke that if I got four hours of sleep, that was a good night. 00:14:06.640 |
But it was just the only option that I had because I did my business in secret. 00:14:12.320 |
Then I would run my business in the evenings and early mornings. 00:14:15.080 |
And then I have to host parties Thursday nights, Friday nights and be at the club or 00:14:19.280 |
And then I got to sit there and make sure everything is good. 00:14:24.320 |
until three, three thirty, get home by four, then start everything back up the next 00:14:31.920 |
How do you kind of balance that you work your butt off? 00:14:35.480 |
Wow, yeah, we've all been there, starting companies, doing projects. 00:14:40.680 |
What advice do you have for someone who feels like they're stuck in that kind of 00:14:45.400 |
traditional rat race where they're like, gosh, I've always assumed that I have to 00:14:49.960 |
take this job and get this house and have this family and have these kids? 00:14:53.080 |
And is there any tactics for just jump starting or kicking off the thinking, as 00:15:04.800 |
And then you have the financial aspect on the mindset side of things. 00:15:08.080 |
Once you decide that, hey, I don't want to live like this anymore. 00:15:11.360 |
You've got to figure out whatever it is that you want. 00:15:17.800 |
Or what is it that you want to do that is going to change your life? 00:15:20.520 |
And you have to understand that, you know, you have to make that decision for 00:15:23.360 |
yourself, that you want to change your life financially and you have to believe 00:15:27.120 |
that it's possible for you and you have to be willing to do whatever it takes. 00:15:32.800 |
Now you have so much education on YouTube or podcasts or wherever. 00:15:36.760 |
You can just start learning from people that have done what it is that you want 00:15:39.600 |
to do and really start shifting your mindset to understand that this is possible. 00:15:43.600 |
The next thing is the financial side, because the reason why so many people are 00:15:48.840 |
scared to make a change is because it's fear. 00:15:52.680 |
What happens if I start this business and it fails and now I lose my job and I can't 00:16:03.680 |
But you're worried about the risk of you starting something new or doing 00:16:09.680 |
But what about the risk if you don't start something new, then you're going to 00:16:14.400 |
be stuck in that same position for the rest of your life. 00:16:23.920 |
And so you got to understand that everything you do has risk. 00:16:26.920 |
But now, if you want to mitigate that risk of doing something different, whether 00:16:30.680 |
it's investing or starting something of your own, the way you mitigate that risk 00:16:34.920 |
is just building yourself a financial cushion. 00:16:37.480 |
And so that means cut out the crap when it comes to spending, build a savings 00:16:43.640 |
cushion, build some extra reserves so that way now if things go wrong, you have 00:16:48.960 |
some money to fall back on, buy some assets, build investments. 00:16:54.840 |
Like I had a conversation with a buddy of mine. 00:16:56.440 |
He was like, OK, you know, if I have $50,000 right now, what do I do with it? 00:17:00.400 |
And it's not such an easy question to answer because you have to 00:17:08.680 |
Or are you young and you can take as much risk as possible? 00:17:11.440 |
Because if you're young, you're 22 years old, you don't have any 00:17:13.920 |
responsibilities, do the riskiest things possible that, you know, you believe 00:17:19.080 |
in, that you think could have future returns, but you know, you can take a 00:17:21.920 |
whole lot more risk when you're 22 than you can when you're 45. 00:17:25.480 |
And so it's understanding where you are in life and then taking action to 00:17:32.040 |
Two things that come to mind when I think about this. 00:17:34.400 |
One, when you start a company or start a project or like you did start a site on 00:17:39.160 |
YouTube, you don't have to quit your job to do that, right? 00:17:42.080 |
There's a lot of ways to get started on the side. 00:17:44.680 |
I know you've talked a lot about how people should start stacking income 00:17:51.080 |
And the other was, I was talking to someone who worked at one of these cushy 00:17:55.440 |
six figure tech jobs and had an entrepreneurial bug and felt like they 00:18:01.680 |
But I pointed out that if they weren't giving up their six figure job for their 00:18:05.240 |
whole life, it doesn't take 10 years to find out if a business is going to be on 00:18:10.520 |
You can usually get a good sense in six months, nine months, sometimes even two 00:18:16.120 |
So I always tell people don't think about the cost of starting a business as not 00:18:22.840 |
It's the cost of not having your salary for maybe six months, maybe nine months, 00:18:26.920 |
which for many people is really hard, which is why I really suggest starting 00:18:32.400 |
But don't think about it as a forever thing, because it's an experiment that 00:18:38.000 |
Yeah, started on the side and started with as little expenses as possible. 00:18:42.400 |
I mean, you talk about YouTube, it kills me when I hear people telling me that 00:18:46.600 |
they're going to start a YouTube channel, and they just invested $5,000 in 00:18:50.720 |
equipment, cameras, lighting, microphones, and you haven't even made a single 00:18:58.760 |
Before you do that, start, hustle, be creative. 00:19:04.200 |
I mean, this, this is the trait that every successful entrepreneur has. 00:19:08.680 |
Because if you have too much money, then what do you do? 00:19:11.200 |
You're going to spend it on dumb things before you realize where that money 00:19:20.120 |
It doesn't have to be a YouTube channel or a content creation business. 00:19:23.280 |
You know, I've created products, I built a water resistant sock company. 00:19:28.080 |
And I spent very little money starting it because I don't have that much money. 00:19:33.840 |
I had to work with textile engineers and manufacturers. 00:19:38.160 |
And how do you do that when you don't have a lot of money to create products 00:19:43.600 |
Well, you get on the phone and you call a lot of people and you see how many of 00:19:46.920 |
them are willing to work out creative deals, where they're willing to get paid 00:19:50.000 |
after you start selling your product, or they're willing to do it in exchange for 00:19:53.320 |
some sort of revenue share of your product, or they're willing to do 00:19:55.640 |
something creative, where you don't have to front all the cash. 00:19:58.560 |
And it's that creativity, which really separates the successful entrepreneur 00:20:02.800 |
from a wantrepreneur who's like, I need $100,000 to start a business because 00:20:09.680 |
You got to be able to find a way to make things happen. 00:20:13.280 |
And it's all about being creative, asking different questions and putting in the 00:20:16.840 |
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And I'll go back to your YouTube example, because there's something I 00:23:29.920 |
heard you say at FinCon was when you posted your first video, there weren't 00:23:33.840 |
a lot of views, and I think that continued for your second, third, fourth 00:23:38.600 |
I even heard you say that a lot of the views in your early days were just you 00:23:43.760 |
I used to hit the refresh button a hundred times on all of my early videos 00:23:47.480 |
because I used to post a video and nobody would watch it, so I was like, 00:23:51.120 |
well, I don't want to have a video with six views on it, so I used to go there, 00:23:54.800 |
watch the video, and hit refresh a hundred times on each video, that way it 00:23:57.720 |
at least looks like I got three digits worth of views, a hundred views. 00:24:01.160 |
And so I know there's a lot of people listening who have some topic that 00:24:06.000 |
It's the thing that, you know, people light up at the dinner table when 00:24:09.040 |
they're talking about, and whether the medium is YouTube or Instagram or 00:24:13.000 |
TikTok or anything, there's so many options, starting a blog. 00:24:16.200 |
When you get started, and I remember this myself, nobody's really listening 00:24:22.280 |
What did you say to yourself, or how did you commit to yourself to keep going, 00:24:27.920 |
knowing that that early part is so hard and feels like there's no traction, but 00:24:33.080 |
clearly, you know, the message you had when you started and were getting no 00:24:37.200 |
views, that message was about the minority mindset, and that's your brand 00:24:43.880 |
How did you push through that hard part where nobody was watching, but you 00:24:48.800 |
thought what you were saying was interesting? 00:24:50.560 |
I mean, this is where you have to be a little bit crazy. 00:24:53.080 |
This is why they say all entrepreneurs are a little bit crazy, because you have 00:24:57.080 |
to do it for more than just financial reward. 00:25:00.400 |
I did not start a YouTube channel to make money. 00:25:03.120 |
I started it because I wanted to spread this education on first how to launch a 00:25:06.880 |
business without getting screwed over, which eventually transitioned into the 00:25:10.440 |
financial education I wish I would have learned when I was getting started. 00:25:13.800 |
And so for me, it was more about the message of getting this information out 00:25:18.440 |
there than it was about how much money can I make? 00:25:21.160 |
Because we'll focus on YouTube, but this goes across any business idea. 00:25:25.400 |
If you start a YouTube channel for the purposes of making money and getting 00:25:30.400 |
Like it is so hard to build any sort of business, brand, channel for the 00:25:38.280 |
But if you're doing it with the passion and with purpose, because you love what 00:25:42.760 |
you do, people are going to see that and they're going to believe you more. 00:25:46.720 |
And they're going to listen to you because they're going to feel it. 00:25:48.960 |
The thing that makes YouTube so cool is it is controlled and watched by people 00:25:52.840 |
because people can watch you and they'll say, this guy's not talking about good 00:25:57.960 |
I don't like this or, you know, I don't, whatever. 00:26:00.480 |
And they can leave because they feel like you just, you're just trying to make 00:26:04.280 |
But if they feel you're passionate, they love what you're saying, that they will 00:26:07.240 |
And so it has to go down to what is it that you're doing it for? 00:26:10.560 |
And for me, I mean, everything that I say, I can tell you this, I speak from my 00:26:14.400 |
heart, everything I say I'm passionate about, the reason why I'm so passionate 00:26:17.360 |
is because, you know, I'm confident about what I say, because I've lived through 00:26:21.160 |
this, and I love what I do and what I talk about. 00:26:25.800 |
I mean, everything is coming straight from my heart, because this is important 00:26:34.480 |
So money, financial, everything that's important to you. 00:26:37.800 |
And and it's something I really want to dive into, because it's a topic I'm also 00:26:42.400 |
So as long as we're two money nerds, as I've seen you call yourself, and I know I 00:26:46.080 |
call myself, how do you manage your own finances? 00:26:48.560 |
What do you do that that is in the minority in terms of how you manage 00:26:53.680 |
Well, I, I don't work in minority mindset to make money, I work to buy 00:27:03.000 |
And so the way that our income works, my income, if you want to look more on the 00:27:06.640 |
business side is I follow what I call an 8020 rule, where if I make $10,000, me 00:27:13.680 |
personally, for minority mindset, whether it's through ads or sponsors or 00:27:16.440 |
whatever, 80% of that goes right back into the company. 00:27:19.800 |
And that will be used to now build software or, or expand on our website or 00:27:26.760 |
hire more team members, we have an amazing team here of people that are way 00:27:30.160 |
smarter than I am, people who run our newsletter, our blog, our academy. 00:27:34.400 |
So you know, we have an amazing team of people that I'm now investing in there. 00:27:39.840 |
And then the other 20% that comes to me, most of that is now being invested into 00:27:45.360 |
other assets, things like real estate, things like stocks, things like 00:27:52.560 |
So, you know, I'm investing in a lot of different places. 00:27:56.200 |
And so that's the way I look at it is, you know, I'm not working for money, I'm 00:28:02.120 |
And so for me, I save cash, because you know, you have to have cash for 00:28:06.880 |
But I also I want to own assets, I want to I want to own real estate, because 00:28:13.600 |
I love real estate, because I can revitalize properties. 00:28:16.000 |
I'm an entrepreneur, I love buying distressed properties. 00:28:18.960 |
Because I want to be able to fix it up, I can make neighborhoods more lively, make 00:28:26.600 |
Plus, you can create that predictable cash flow, and you get tax breaks, real 00:28:30.720 |
estate has some of the best legal tax breaks that our tax code has to offer. 00:28:35.200 |
Second, I invest in the stock market, because I believe in the American 00:28:39.960 |
Like I said, we know we have the strongest economy in the world. 00:28:42.360 |
So the stock market is a way for you to get exposure to the American economy. 00:28:46.160 |
Third, I invest in startups, because I'm an entrepreneur. 00:28:52.720 |
And I want to support entrepreneurs in as many ways that I can. 00:28:56.360 |
Then I invest in cryptocurrency, because people are trying to take control over 00:29:02.480 |
This this this is a new movement literally being created by people from the bottom 00:29:09.360 |
Because in case I'm wrong about the economy, I invest in stocks because I 00:29:25.880 |
And so you know, you it's that diversification for me, because I can't 00:29:34.520 |
But I can I can allocate my resources accordingly. 00:29:38.960 |
Yeah, I'm a fan of a similar diversification strategy. 00:29:43.680 |
But one interesting thing I've heard you say, which is a little bit more minority 00:29:47.680 |
mindset is that you don't think one job will be enough for most people. 00:29:51.480 |
And that you know, I read that as you don't just need to diversify where you put 00:29:54.960 |
your money, but you need to diversify where you get your money. 00:29:57.360 |
So I'm curious to hear why you think people will need, you know, multiple 00:30:01.800 |
streams of income beyond just their job and what you think some of the best ways 00:30:06.040 |
for people to get started to stack their income beyond their job. 00:30:08.920 |
So if we look a few decades ago, we used to live in an economy where households 00:30:20.960 |
And in most cases, the woman of the house did not go to work. 00:30:28.160 |
And in that one income household case, that one income was able to support 00:30:34.640 |
buying a home, buying a car and putting kids through school and vacations and 00:30:43.640 |
Now we're in a generation where we have two income households. 00:30:48.440 |
I mean, it's dumb that we didn't have equality before, but you know, it's 00:30:54.520 |
But now you would assume that if we have two people working in a house, 00:30:58.520 |
households should be twice as wealthy, right? 00:31:04.760 |
We have two income households, yet people are broker than ever. 00:31:11.800 |
Because one goes back to everything that we just talked about. 00:31:14.480 |
The cost of living has been skyrocketing relative to wages. 00:31:19.920 |
Part of that has to do with the fact that our dollar values have been 00:31:27.040 |
And wages have gone up, but not relative to our cost of living. 00:31:33.080 |
In addition to that, we also have a higher standard of living. 00:31:35.920 |
You know, back in the day, you didn't have an iPhone and a MacBook and smart 00:31:41.480 |
watches and all these other fancy things that we have now that everybody wants 00:31:46.840 |
Couple that with the growth of technology, which allows you to buy now, pay later. 00:31:50.880 |
And so this is the change in our spending culture, where prices of things are 00:31:57.440 |
higher, we want more things, and we're financing our things. 00:32:01.680 |
And now you have two incomes that are struggling to support this. 00:32:05.280 |
Plus you have student loans, which are, interestingly, the biggest liability for 00:32:11.200 |
young people, millennials, but it's also the biggest asset for the United States 00:32:17.440 |
So now if you want to be able to afford this life and build wealth, you're going 00:32:24.160 |
And the way I look at it is, you know, saving is important. 00:32:29.440 |
When I say saving, I mean living below your means. 00:32:32.000 |
Living below your means is important where you have extra cash. 00:32:38.800 |
There's only so many expenses that you can cut down. 00:32:41.520 |
And yeah, some people are going to be more aggressive than others. 00:32:44.640 |
But at the end of the day, if you're making $100,000 a year, there's only so 00:32:50.240 |
Even if it's $30,000, there's only so much that you can cut, but there's no 00:32:55.400 |
And so this is the growth mindset of understanding, okay, yes, I need to live 00:33:00.920 |
I need to put some extra money aside for my pay down my credit card debt to start 00:33:06.040 |
investing, to build wealth, to invest in my business, whatever it is. 00:33:08.800 |
But now I need to earn more money that way I can actually accelerate my path to 00:33:13.880 |
And thanks to technology, it is more accessible than ever to be able to earn 00:33:19.480 |
I mean, you can drive for Uber, you can drive for Lyft, you can deliver 00:33:23.480 |
groceries for Amazon Fresh, you can deliver food for Grubhub, you can deliver 00:33:28.640 |
Or if you want to be more involved with physical labor type of stuff, there are 00:33:33.520 |
apps out there that allow you to help people move. 00:33:37.120 |
You can lift heavy things, you can, if you have a truck, you can transport stuff 00:33:41.400 |
in your truck, or you can come on to things like Upwork and Fiverr. 00:33:45.720 |
And now you can offer your services, your thinking, your skills, you can be a 00:33:50.280 |
writer, you can be a graphic designer, you can be a video editor, you can be a 00:33:55.040 |
There's so many things that you can do, where if you have a skill, now you can 00:33:59.840 |
And it has become so much more accessible because now you can go to one of these 00:34:04.240 |
platforms, market your skill, and have somebody else who's looking for your 00:34:11.480 |
And these are things that you can do on your own time on your own schedule. 00:34:15.320 |
Like here at the Minority Mindset, we have our core team in the office. 00:34:18.680 |
And then we have like a couple dozen or so freelancers that work with us. 00:34:23.160 |
A dozen of them are writers, and they write on their own time on their own 00:34:28.680 |
And we send them topics, we give them deadlines, and then they can work their 00:34:34.120 |
own job and write in the evenings or in the mornings or the lunch break or we 00:34:38.000 |
know it doesn't matter to us when you write it as long as you get it to us by 00:34:43.600 |
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We talked about investing, but when I searched your YouTube channel, there were 00:37:46.600 |
a ton of videos about hacks and a lot of them were money hacks and side hustle hacks 00:37:51.400 |
One of the categories that we haven't spent much time on is spending less money. 00:37:56.640 |
What are some of your favorite tips or maybe contrarian minority mindset pieces of 00:38:01.560 |
advice for people to look to save a little bit more money? 00:38:05.320 |
So the interesting thing about this is there has to be a reason for why you are 00:38:11.000 |
saving your money, because I grew up in a traditional Indian house and the Indian 00:38:17.880 |
And I joke around about this, but Indian people make a dollar to spend 20 cents. 00:38:24.400 |
American people earn a dollar to spend two dollars. 00:38:27.680 |
And so Indian people are bred with this save first mentality where they want to 00:38:33.360 |
So the question first is, why are you living below your means? 00:38:36.920 |
Because if it's just to save money, to save it, well, you know, there's better 00:38:42.560 |
So for me, it's really understanding why, because you have this debate in the 00:38:48.160 |
financial industry of people arguing over Starbucks. 00:38:51.600 |
Oh, my God, you spend four dollars on a latte. 00:38:55.640 |
If you compounded that four dollars at seven percent a year, do you know how much 00:38:59.040 |
Now, people are arguing, is Starbucks a good or bad purchase? 00:39:04.120 |
The question is, why are you spending or not spending money at Starbucks? 00:39:08.320 |
Because if you're not spending money at Starbucks just so you can save an extra 00:39:12.760 |
four dollars, what is that going to do for you? 00:39:15.600 |
But if you have a reason for not spending your money, because right now you're 00:39:20.960 |
trying to build your business and you don't have any extra money because you're 00:39:23.480 |
trying to invest every extra penny possible, you're trying to buy your first 00:39:26.080 |
rental property. This is where you can start to ask the question of why am I 00:39:29.640 |
cutting back? For me, I was always big on investing into me and my real estate and 00:39:36.840 |
my business. And the first time I made one hundred thousand dollars a year, I 00:39:40.280 |
was in school and I was a student and I was making good money. 00:39:44.920 |
You know, one hundred grand a year when you're a student is really good. 00:39:47.400 |
And you can show off a lot of nice things when you're in college with that type of 00:39:52.920 |
Where I was paying less than four hundred dollars a month, and that included my 00:39:57.560 |
parking, my cable, my Internet, my heat and my electric, because I slept on the 00:40:05.320 |
living room floor, I kept a mattress in the hallway and every night I would come 00:40:10.200 |
there, drag the mattress into the living room, lay it down, put down my sheets, go 00:40:15.280 |
to sleep, wake up, fold my sheets, put them away, lift up the mattress and put it 00:40:19.040 |
back in the hallway. Now, I was making good money. 00:40:21.280 |
I could have afforded a much nicer apartment. 00:40:23.360 |
But the reason why I didn't do that was because I wanted to spend every penny 00:40:27.000 |
possible and invest that right back into my business and to buy real estate. 00:40:33.400 |
Now, when it comes to hacks, it's really just that discipline, man. 00:40:37.080 |
Like I used to guest teach in Detroit public schools and Detroit public schools. 00:40:41.800 |
For those of you who don't know, it is a rougher school district where these kids, 00:40:48.240 |
they grow up around a lot of rough things that the teachers have had a rough time 00:40:52.280 |
teaching there. And it's just a rougher area. 00:40:54.440 |
So I wanted to volunteer and kind of help out. 00:40:56.400 |
I was guest speaking here and I would just talk about life, motivation, money 00:41:00.560 |
management, a whole bunch of different things. 00:41:03.320 |
And I was talking to the kids at one of the classes. 00:41:06.480 |
I asked him how many of you all are working a job and a lot of them raised their 00:41:09.520 |
hands. Then I asked him how many guys have a bank account and almost nobody raised 00:41:14.760 |
their hands. So, you know, I got to talk to them. 00:41:17.000 |
I was like, you know, what do you all do with your money? 00:41:18.360 |
So what would happen is these kids, high school kids would work at a job. 00:41:23.680 |
Then they would walk into a liquor store or a convenience store, cash the check 00:41:28.560 |
where they would pay one to 10 percent in fees to cash that check. 00:41:31.960 |
Then they will go out and buy chips, pop, soda, candy. 00:41:35.800 |
And on the way out, they'd only be left with half of their check. 00:41:39.480 |
And so this is where we need to change the way that we're using our money. 00:41:47.080 |
And what that says is if you cannot buy five of them, you cannot afford one of 00:41:53.000 |
them. So now we're talking about liabilities, things that you don't need to 00:41:56.080 |
survive, where there's a big difference between being able to buy something and 00:42:02.280 |
Because when I was talking to these kids, everyone said, you know, if I had a 00:42:05.400 |
hundred dollars in my bank account, I can afford a hundred dollar pair of shoes. 00:42:10.000 |
Just because you can buy a hundred dollar pair of shoes does not mean that you can 00:42:13.200 |
afford it. Nowadays, if you want to buy a hundred dollar pair of shoes, you don't 00:42:18.040 |
All you need is a credit card or or access to these buy and I'll pay later 00:42:21.800 |
platforms. But what you have to understand is there's a huge difference between 00:42:26.080 |
being able to buy something and being able to afford something. 00:42:28.800 |
And now when we talk about using your money the right way, you have to know the 00:42:32.400 |
difference. So I like to follow the rule of five. 00:42:36.360 |
You can't afford one of them. You want a hundred dollar pair of shoes. 00:42:39.480 |
You better be able to buy at least five of them before you can afford one of 00:42:44.160 |
I love it. That's a great rule of thumb that I think I could probably find some 00:42:49.560 |
purchases in my past history that that wouldn't have applied and and now 00:42:54.640 |
You know, we've all been there. We've all been there, though. 00:42:56.880 |
When I was younger, I used to make a lot of dumb purchases. 00:43:02.480 |
When I was younger, I used to spend my money on a whole bunch of dumb things 00:43:09.240 |
When I was in high school and I was making money, I wanted to look rich. 00:43:13.800 |
So the first time I had a gig that I did and I made a thousand dollars, I was 00:43:17.880 |
like, oh, my God, I made a thousand dollars, a lot of money when you're in 00:43:20.200 |
high school. So I went out and I bought a thousand dollar watch, like literally 00:43:26.560 |
And it was like lined up with crystals all around. 00:43:31.240 |
And it was just like super flashy and blingy just because I wanted to look 00:43:35.400 |
rich. I mean, back then, it's like any time I made some extra cash, I upgraded 00:43:39.920 |
my car. I was driving this Toyota and I put tints on my windows. 00:43:45.000 |
I upgraded the rims, put on some custom rims. 00:43:47.480 |
I put in two 12 inch subwoofers in the trunk. 00:43:52.880 |
I mean, I used to watch a lot of pit my ride in case you couldn't tell. 00:43:58.080 |
And I would, you know, quote unquote, invest money into my car to look rich. 00:44:03.240 |
But then when I started learning about money and I started understanding, OK, I 00:44:08.040 |
I like I want to be able to take care of my family. 00:44:10.880 |
So, you know, you mix that that the mindset with the right financial education. 00:44:17.440 |
I stopped spending money on things because I wanted to buy assets. 00:44:22.160 |
And now it's like you want to buy as many assets as you can because you want to 00:44:26.280 |
take care of yourself. You want to be able to live off your assets and then you 00:44:29.840 |
That way you never have to worry about money. 00:44:31.880 |
That way you can live your life and do whatever you want, because wealth 00:44:35.760 |
And everything that we do is, you know, you want to have freedom to live your 00:44:40.320 |
life and do whatever it is that you want, because when you have the freedom, it's 00:44:44.400 |
much easier to to do things that you love and do the things that you want. 00:44:48.120 |
Yeah. Are there any things now that you think you spend money on that people 00:44:57.560 |
When you have more money, it's nice to be able to afford luxury things. 00:45:02.920 |
But it really starts with the small stuff, because I love working out. 00:45:06.120 |
I'm a gym guy and I have a gym bag that I keep with me. 00:45:11.240 |
And before, what I used to do is I used to have, you know, my deodorant, my 00:45:18.120 |
I had one of each of these things and I kept it in my home. 00:45:22.680 |
I take these things from my bathroom, put it in my gym bag, walk over to the gym, 00:45:27.080 |
work out, shower, do all my stuff in the gym, use my toiletries, come home, 00:45:31.560 |
take all this stuff out, put it back in my bathroom. 00:45:39.160 |
I'm going to make my life a little bit easier. 00:45:41.640 |
So then I bought a second deodorant, a second body wash, you know, a second 00:45:47.640 |
And you start buying, you know, it's like it's convenience. 00:45:50.360 |
And now all of a sudden, when I go to the gym, I don't got to take it out of my 00:45:53.120 |
bathroom. I just pick up my gym bag and I go. 00:45:59.040 |
It's like it starts with the little things and you're able to buy more 00:46:04.720 |
money has the ability to buy convenience for you, 00:46:10.560 |
but you got to pick and choose what it is that you want, you know? 00:46:14.320 |
And for some people, it's going to be some things. 00:46:17.120 |
And for others, it's going to be other things. 00:46:19.200 |
I go to India pretty often because my family's in India. 00:46:23.160 |
And when we used to go to India, I sit in an economy class and, oh my God, 00:46:29.000 |
you're going to India in 18 hour flight, sitting in an economy class. 00:46:33.520 |
You're sitting like a sardine. You sit there. You can't move. 00:46:37.560 |
You got someone on your left. You got someone on your right. 00:46:39.360 |
You can't extend your legs. You got someone in front of you. 00:46:41.560 |
You can recline like three inches and you sit there and you wait for the, 00:46:47.960 |
And then you can eat with your elbows to your shoulders and you're stuck. 00:46:51.440 |
And it is so uncomfortable. I mean, it's such a long flight. 00:46:56.800 |
And then when you walk in, it's funny that they do this, 00:47:01.120 |
you're going to walk past the business class seats and these business class 00:47:05.240 |
seats that are huge. And I used to always walk past. I'm like, 00:47:09.280 |
I wonder what these people do. How do you afford these seats? 00:47:12.320 |
Cause it's like three to five times more to sit in business than it does in 00:47:15.440 |
economy. I was like, how do these people afford this? 00:47:17.640 |
Because their seats are like, you get your own cabin, 00:47:20.320 |
you get your own like little compartment and your seat turns into a bed. 00:47:25.600 |
this flight attendant that comes and serves you and talks to you and they call 00:47:29.120 |
you sir and ma'am. And I was like, oh my God, that's so cool. And still, 00:47:33.600 |
you know, in terms of luxuries, the first time I flew business to India, 00:47:37.320 |
oh my God, my life changed. I could not believe it. 00:47:39.440 |
I could not believe what it was like to sit in a seat like that for 18 hours. 00:47:43.480 |
I'm like, man, time flies. Life becomes more convenient. 00:47:47.480 |
That's amazing. Awesome. Well, this has been so fantastic. 00:47:51.320 |
I appreciate you sharing all these things. What are you working on right now? 00:47:57.560 |
we're really just working on helping to spread that financial education. 00:48:03.240 |
Obviously we have our YouTube channel minority mindset. 00:48:05.520 |
We recently launched a new YouTube channel called minority mindset news, 00:48:08.920 |
where we publish daily news updates in the top finance and business 00:48:13.360 |
world. We have all of our socials at minority mindset. 00:48:17.240 |
You can check out our website, the minority mindset.com. 00:48:21.120 |
Everything on our website is free. It's free content, man. Go check it out. 00:48:24.480 |
Yeah. Well, thanks for sharing. I've checked it out. Hopefully people will too. 00:48:30.360 |
I'm a little sad we didn't end up talking about guacamole since I know that's a 00:48:33.560 |
big thing for you. And I also share the passion, but oh man, I dig it. 00:48:38.720 |
I dig it. Yeah, me too. Thanks for being here. Thank you, Chris. 00:48:43.560 |
That was great. If you watch any of Jaspreet's videos, 00:48:48.240 |
you'll see how passionate he is about everything he does. 00:48:52.840 |
I've actually been recording most of the videos of these interviews, 00:48:56.160 |
and I'm going to be putting them all up on YouTube. 00:49:00.600 |
Also, thank you to everyone who's emailed questions, feedback, hacks, 00:49:06.520 |
Please keep them coming for the next Q and A episode and especially keep sharing 00:49:11.760 |
because I'm going to start including them in this soon to be relaunched weekly 00:49:15.560 |
newsletter. Finally, thank you so much for listening. 00:49:18.560 |
You can find me at chris@allthehacks.com and I'll see you next week. 00:49:22.720 |
I want to tell you about another podcast I love that goes deep on all things 00:49:39.440 |
money. That means everything from money hacks to wealth building to early 00:49:42.960 |
retirement. It's called the personal finance podcast, 00:49:45.960 |
and it's much more about building generational wealth and spending your money on 00:49:50.120 |
the things you value than it is about clipping coupons to save a dollar. 00:49:55.560 |
Andrew who truly believes that everyone in this world can build wealth and his 00:49:59.520 |
passion and excitement are what make this show so entertaining. 00:50:03.000 |
I know because I was a guest on the show in December, 2022, 00:50:06.920 |
but recently I listened to an episode where Andrew shared 16 money stats that 00:50:11.640 |
will blow your mind. And it was so crazy to learn things like 35% of millennials 00:50:16.440 |
are not participating in their employer's retirement plan. 00:50:19.240 |
And that's just one of the many fascinating stats he shared. 00:50:22.880 |
The personal finance podcast has something for everyone. 00:50:25.840 |
It's filled with so many tips and tactics and hacks to help you get better with 00:50:29.600 |
your money and grow your wealth. So I highly recommend you check it out. 00:50:33.240 |
Just search for the personal finance podcast on Apple podcasts, Spotify, 00:50:37.440 |
or wherever you listen to podcasts and enjoy.