back to indexDoes Technique Beat Talent?
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0:0 Cal's intro
0:13 Cal reads a question about talent compared to working smarter
1:0 Talent involves a lot of training
1:36 Cal gives an example
3:56 Let's forget about talent
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All right, we got a question here from Thiego. He says, Does working smarter beat talent? 00:00:13.360 |
I'm a data scientist and researcher, so I know the value of good work. But you really think an 00:00:20.160 |
average person who follows this path can achieve a PhD from MIT and make breakthroughs in science? 00:00:27.520 |
Yeah, it's a complicated question, Thiego. It's a complicated question in part because talent is 00:00:33.920 |
very vague exactly what that means. But I do think, yeah, it's realistic to say, no, not every 00:00:41.200 |
professional objective, ambitious professional objective you have is necessarily achievable. 00:00:48.480 |
Right? And this might be because of talent. My personal view is that talent is a complicated 00:00:55.920 |
picture because it involves a lot of training. And it involves the circumstances for training. 00:01:03.760 |
It might involve maybe your personality is well-suited to stick with certain types of training. 00:01:09.120 |
I'm not a big believer in this, just you have this talent that makes it doing really complicated, 00:01:14.720 |
high-level work easy for you. High-level complicated work requires a lot of training. 00:01:19.040 |
But some people end up, now you're 20 years old, and for whatever reason, you've been exposed to 00:01:24.240 |
and have done a lot of that training. And someone who hasn't, you're in two different places. So I 00:01:27.600 |
find talent to be a vague issue. So I don't typically use that term. But I do think it's true. 00:01:32.560 |
Yeah, not every objective is open to everyone. So for example, I'm going to first be, 00:01:40.160 |
what would you call it, sort of braggadocious. And then I'm going to humble myself. Right? I'll 00:01:46.160 |
use myself as an example. Because you mentioned PhD from MIT. All right. So when I was in college, 00:01:53.120 |
for whatever reason, I found the computer science work, especially the mathematical 00:01:57.760 |
or theoretical computer science work, pretty easy. Right? And I always used to think, well, 00:02:05.120 |
that must be because I had good study habits. I managed my time well, or this or that. But I 00:02:10.000 |
received an email like a year or two ago from the fellow student who I used to work with on my theory 00:02:17.280 |
and algorithms problem sets. And this was the student I like to work with because he was very 00:02:21.520 |
sharp and we would be very efficient together. And I guess he saw one of my articles or something. 00:02:26.480 |
And he sent me a message and said, oh, it was cool to see whatever some article he saw of mine. 00:02:30.640 |
And he said, my memory from Dartmouth was working with you on some of these problem sets or whatever 00:02:39.280 |
we'd working on was, oh, I can't do that. I know now I'm not going to be a professor, this or that. 00:02:48.160 |
I guess that's what it looks like when someone has a really strong aptitude for something. So 00:02:53.760 |
that was his memory, is that it caught his attention and tempered his ambition, seeing 00:02:59.680 |
me working on these problem sets. So I guess there was some sort of thing there that made 00:03:04.720 |
me good at that. But then I go to MIT and it became clear after a while of, oh, the top people 00:03:10.800 |
here, the people who are going to be at the top of the theoretical computer science field, 00:03:14.720 |
I'm never going to be that. So there's things you can do, things you can't do. So for whatever 00:03:22.080 |
reason, I was pretty good at this stuff, but also not the best in the world. And I'm not sure if I 00:03:27.840 |
would have been able to get to the best of the world. So I don't know, I'm sort of wandering 00:03:31.280 |
here, which is my way of saying of like, yeah, there are some limits to what you can do. It's 00:03:34.640 |
more obvious with physical stuff. I'm not going to play professional sports. I'm still holding 00:03:38.880 |
out hope I'm going to play professional baseball, but I think that window is closing pretty rapidly 00:03:43.600 |
here. So it's more obvious there than with intellectual stuff. I think people have more 00:03:49.040 |
gives and they realize, but some of this stuff gets baked in over a decade of training. It's 00:03:53.520 |
really hard to say, but all right, let's put that all aside then and say, so what do we do about it? 00:03:57.280 |
I say, let's forget about that. Let's forget about talent. Let's forget about, can I do anything I 00:04:03.120 |
want to do? And ask the better question. What is the real advantage you get from working smarter 00:04:10.400 |
and deeper? So being really intentional about how you work and what you work on and how you organize 00:04:14.800 |
your life. The goal there is not to enable the accomplishment of arbitrarily elite professional 00:04:21.920 |
accomplishment. The goal is to give yourself the best shot of living a deep life. If you're 00:04:29.440 |
intentional, if you're deep, if you're organized, you're making the most of your current circumstances, 00:04:35.760 |
that is the leverage you need to shape your life into something you can control. That's the leverage 00:04:40.800 |
you need that when you do lifestyle centered career planning, you can push your life towards 00:04:44.080 |
the lifestyle that resonates and away from the things that don't. That's what you need to feel 00:04:48.560 |
engaged and meaningful and competent and efficacious. That is more important than I think 00:04:54.160 |
hitting some arbitrary professional goal. I'm not going to be a MacArthur Genius Grant winning 00:05:01.840 |
top in the world theoretician, but it doesn't mean that I can't use the skills I do have that I am 00:05:06.400 |
carefully developing to try to build a really cool life. And that friend of mine, who's was very, 00:05:12.160 |
very smart, he might be saying, okay, I guess I wasn't going to be a professional academic to do 00:05:16.400 |
theoretical computer science, but I'm sure he's doing something really cool and interesting with 00:05:19.680 |
his life because he was very sharp and focused and was working with what he wanted to do. And so 00:05:23.760 |
that's what I would say, Thiego, who cares about this debate? About how much is, are you born with? 00:05:30.560 |
How much is it life circumstances that trains you? How much of it can you just change now through 00:05:35.280 |
deliberate practice? I don't know. Possible to answer. So why don't we just focus on what we 00:05:40.320 |
can control and try to build the deepest, most interesting life possible, each one that's going