back to indexDo We Have Free Will to Choose Christ?
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Pastor John, here's a big question we get frequently from listeners, and it comes in various forms, 00:00:09.000 |
but essentially the question is this, "Is there such a thing as free will?" 00:00:16.000 |
Let me pose the question really specifically so that it's not maybe quite that broad, 00:00:22.000 |
but I think we'll go right to the heart of the matter. 00:00:24.000 |
Do we have free will in choosing Christ as our Lord and Savior and treasure? 00:00:31.000 |
I think that's what the center of the debate is about, and then people can generalize beyond that about, 00:00:38.000 |
But I'm just talking about, do we have free will to choose Christ as our Savior, our Lord, our treasure? 00:00:50.000 |
And, of course, that depends on the definition of free will. 00:00:53.000 |
So let's start with one, and I think this is a definition that those in the debate would agree with. 00:01:00.000 |
I know that in my debates with Greg Boyd, for example, he would use this for what he's defending people having, 00:01:08.000 |
and I think people don't have in this regard. 00:01:11.000 |
So here, you have a free will—this is the definition—you have a free will when you have ultimate self-determination. 00:01:19.000 |
With this definition, you have free will in choosing Christ if the ultimate cause of the choice is your own self-determination. 00:01:34.000 |
There may be a lot of factors that share in determining your choice of Christ, 00:01:42.000 |
but only one of those factors is ultimate or final. 00:01:47.000 |
Free will, on this definition, demands that you be that factor, not anything else, including God. 00:01:56.000 |
God's not the final, ultimate factor in the choice. 00:02:01.000 |
You are—or here's another way to say it—you have free will when your will is the decisive cause of your choosing Christ. 00:02:13.000 |
And the word "decisive" here has the same function as "ultimate." 00:02:18.000 |
There may be many causes that influence your choosing Christ, but for you to be free, in this definition, 00:02:27.000 |
the decisive cause, the one that finally decides your choice, must be your will, not anyone else's will, including God. 00:02:42.000 |
When you get to heaven, if God asks you, "What's the deepest, decisive reason you believed on my Son?" 00:02:54.000 |
Will you say, "The decisive reason for my choice was your grace," 00:03:03.000 |
or will you say, "The decisive reason for my choice was me?" 00:03:08.000 |
Now, be sure to notice carefully, the question is not, "Did we make a choice?" 00:03:14.000 |
The question was not, "Was our will active and necessary?" 00:03:21.000 |
The answer to all those questions is, "Yes, you made a choice. 00:03:25.000 |
Your will was active and necessary. Your choice was real." 00:03:31.000 |
The question is, when your will chose, what was decisive in bringing that willing about? 00:03:39.000 |
What was the decisive influence or the decisive cause? 00:03:43.000 |
And the Bible answers, "God's grace," and others say, "Your own power of self-determination." 00:03:49.000 |
So I'm arguing here now that in choosing Christ, we don't have that kind of free will, that is, the power of self-determination. 00:03:59.000 |
And here are three kinds of texts that I would commend for people to think about. 00:04:03.000 |
Number one, we are so morally corrupt, we can't do good. 00:04:10.000 |
Romans 8, 6 and 7, "To set the mind on the flesh," or the mind of the flesh is death, 00:04:15.000 |
but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, "for the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God." 00:04:22.000 |
It does not submit to God's law, and it cannot. 00:04:25.000 |
So the mind of the flesh, apart from Jesus Christ, cannot submit to God. 00:04:29.000 |
We love our self-exaltation and cannot submit. 00:04:33.000 |
Or 1 Corinthians 2, 14, "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit, for they are folly to him, and he's not able." 00:04:42.000 |
He's not able. He cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 00:04:48.000 |
So these texts in the Bible says we cannot perceive and submit to God because we are so corrupt. 00:04:55.000 |
Number two, we can't choose Christ. It's finally a gift of God. 00:05:00.000 |
So 2 Timothy 2, 24, "The Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome, but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. 00:05:17.000 |
So repentance is required, and we can't do it on our own. 00:05:21.000 |
The decisive cause is, "God may grant repentance." 00:05:26.000 |
Or Philippians 1, 29, "For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him, but suffer for his sake." 00:05:35.000 |
So believing in Christ is a gift. It's granted to you because you can't produce it on your own. 00:05:42.000 |
And Paul says, "So then it depends not on the one who wills or the one who runs, but on God who has mercy." 00:05:48.000 |
And the third text type is, "What is this experience like then when we choose by another's power?" 00:05:58.000 |
1 Corinthians 15, 10, "By the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace toward me was not in vain. 00:06:05.000 |
But on the contrary, I worked harder than any of them, though it was not I, but the grace of God that was with me." 00:06:12.000 |
So there's a picture of, "I do choose, I do work, I am laboring, but no, it is God at work in me." 00:06:20.000 |
He's the decisive underneath cause bringing it about. 00:06:24.000 |
Same thing in Philippians 2, 12, "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for God is the one who's in you working and in you willing. 00:06:31.000 |
So your willing is caused by his willing, and your working is caused by his working." 00:06:38.000 |
If we are left to our free will, that is our power of ultimate self-determination, we will, all of us, use it to reject Christ. 00:06:49.000 |
We are so spiritually dead and numb and blind and rebellious against Christ. 00:06:54.000 |
We love the darkness so much that we don't have the moral ability to see and prize and choose Christ over this world. 00:07:03.000 |
The sovereign grace of God breaks in on our lives, overcomes our rebellion, overcomes our blindness and our deadness, 00:07:11.000 |
and makes us able to see Christ as compelling and beautiful so that we freely choose Christ. 00:07:18.000 |
Which, of course, I know leaves unanswered the question of, "Well, then how in the world are we accountable or responsible?" 00:07:26.000 |
But on this APJ, I just wanted to say, "No, we don't have free will in choosing Christ if you define free will as ultimate self-determination." 00:07:41.000 |
Yes, so are we responsible or accountable then? 00:07:44.000 |
We'll be back tomorrow to address that question. 00:07:46.000 |
Until then, I'm your host Tony Reinke. Thanks for listening.