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I am James Hong and welcome to the Surpassing Value Podcast. 00:00:15.620 |
The fuel and desire for this podcast was born out of a compulsion to flesh out what's 00:00:19.740 |
been going on in the midst of an ocean of megaphones that may not actually withstand 00:00:26.620 |
As a signpost theologian, I will do my best to filter out the impurities and point people 00:00:39.940 |
In episode 5, I explored the topic of social justice and entitled that episode Social Justice 00:00:49.340 |
At the time I put the working draft together for that episode, I didn't think I'd have 00:00:55.440 |
At around the time I finished recording chapter 1, I felt convinced that there was much left 00:01:04.500 |
Although that sentiment is arguably true for every topic I've addressed so far, it would 00:01:10.940 |
only be true if we were thinking about it in a very strict sense, but I'm not talking 00:01:17.020 |
about it in a strict sense, rather I'm thinking about it in a very podcast-y sense. 00:01:24.700 |
So that's how this episode was birthed, and also the reason why in the beginning of this 00:01:29.560 |
episode I want to recommend some resources as any competent signpost theologian would 00:01:35.480 |
do, and as you know, I am aspiring to be a competent signpost theologian. 00:01:41.540 |
None of the topics I cover do I cover exhaustively, so if you want further follow-up for this 00:01:53.820 |
Professor Vodie Bauckham's sermons/lectures on these issues are a must. 00:02:02.300 |
I've alluded to them before, but if you were to input his name into any search engine and 00:02:08.260 |
include the words "ethnic Gnosticism", "racial reconciliation", or "cultural Marxism", they 00:02:15.940 |
are very helpful, Vodie is spelled V-O-D-D-I-E, last name is Bauckham, B-A-U-C-H-A-M, just 00:02:24.460 |
input his name and "ethnic Gnosticism" or "racial reconciliation" or "cultural Marxism" 00:02:30.460 |
and you'll see his one-hour sermons/lectures. 00:02:34.540 |
Neil Shenvey, N-E-I-L Shenvey, S-H-E-N-V-E-Y, I've already endorsed him, but he has written 00:02:43.060 |
extensively about critical race theory and I heard today actually that he is going to 00:02:48.660 |
be coming out with a book scheduled for 2022 concerning apologetics. 00:02:54.940 |
If you go to his website, Neil Shenvey Apologetics, you will find a treasure trove of resources 00:03:01.880 |
as it relates to critical race theory, social justice, and other topics. 00:03:07.540 |
I've mentioned repeatedly the Just Thinking Podcast and I will do so again with Daryl 00:03:15.060 |
The Bar Podcast Network, Just Thinking is a part of the Bar Podcast Network and that 00:03:24.980 |
The Center for Biblical Unity has been doing great work in this area. 00:03:29.420 |
They are headed up by Monique Dusson and Krista Bontrager. 00:03:35.020 |
Edwin Ramirez over at the Proverbial Life Podcast is another notable one along with 00:03:43.960 |
I really also like Ali Beth Stuckey over at Relatable. 00:03:48.580 |
If you are more of a blog person, there is a ton, but I think Samuel Tse, S-E-Y, Samuel 00:03:55.060 |
Tse, he has done some really extensive good work on cultural race issues, pro-life issues. 00:04:07.800 |
He speaks with clarity, with candor, and with conviction. 00:04:14.180 |
He is interesting because he is actually a Ghanaian-Canadian, he is not an American dude, 00:04:20.260 |
He immigrated over from Ghana, he is currently out in Toronto, and he writes from a very 00:04:33.340 |
witty perspective, almost GK Chesterton-like, and what I mean by that is he is able to take 00:04:39.880 |
vast avenues of thought, shrink them, and still hold their meaning. 00:04:47.860 |
So that is a very high compliment to say he is very GK Chesterton-like, I don't say that 00:04:54.680 |
I have a lot more, that's already a lot right there, but I have much more that I can point 00:05:02.600 |
Feel free to reach out to me at thesurpassingvalue@gmail.com. 00:05:13.280 |
Initially for this episode, I was going to amalgamate two books. 00:05:20.080 |
That was going to be the structure of this episode. 00:05:23.960 |
Those two books were Confronting Injustice Without Compromising Truth by Thaddeus Williams, 00:05:31.000 |
and the other book was By What Standard, and that has contributing authors, Tom Askell, 00:05:37.200 |
Vodie Bauckham, Mark Koppinger, Jared Longshore, Tom Nettles, and Chad Vegas. 00:05:43.720 |
However, as I was putting this episode together, there was no way I could amalgamate those 00:05:51.280 |
two books because this episode would have been way too long. 00:05:54.640 |
I would have had to have done two separate episodes, maybe even a chapter three, which 00:06:04.480 |
So for the remainder of this episode, what I'm going to do is essentially do a book review 00:06:12.080 |
on Confronting Injustice Without Compromising Truth, which is a book that's due out December 00:06:19.320 |
By the time this episode hits, it might already be out. 00:06:30.040 |
Now, By What Standard, by those contributing authors, in my opinion, acts as a very nice 00:06:36.960 |
complement to Confronting Injustice Without Compromising Truth. 00:06:41.760 |
I think you can read those two books together, and there isn't too much that's qualitatively 00:06:52.360 |
You would benefit tremendously from those two books. 00:06:56.440 |
If you could only read two books on this ginormous issue, those would be the two books that I 00:07:07.200 |
To a lesser degree, I would recommend Why Social Justice Is Not Biblical Justice by 00:07:14.520 |
I don't mean to cast a negative shadow on the book at all. 00:07:18.480 |
I'm only saying that because I understand that we all have a limited amount of time, 00:07:23.280 |
and realistically, we do need to triage what we read. 00:07:28.160 |
Another book I would recommend is Political Visions and Illusions by David Koizis. 00:07:37.760 |
That's another good one if you want to understand in a very non-partisan way the worldviews 00:07:45.160 |
behind socialism, capitalism, conservatism, liberalism, and other worldviews. 00:07:55.800 |
This book gives a fair treatment into the ideas behind various political philosophies, 00:08:01.860 |
as opposed to just virtue signaling and anti-intellectualism, veiled insulting, and cherry-picking that 00:08:11.240 |
is very prevalent on social media and amongst other self-professing Christians. 00:08:19.000 |
I think this is a good spot to emphasize a reminder because I am proffering all these 00:08:25.560 |
So, as I proffer all these resources, I wanted to emphasize a reminder to the listener, and 00:08:37.680 |
Ecclesiastes 12, 11-14 says this, "The words of the wise are like goats, and masters of 00:08:49.100 |
these collections are like driven nails; they are given by one shepherd. 00:08:54.520 |
But beyond this, my son, be warned, the writing of many books is endless, and excessive study 00:09:04.760 |
The conclusion, when everything has been heard, is fear God and keep His commandments, because 00:09:13.160 |
For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is 00:09:22.920 |
Emphasizing verse 12 here, "But beyond this, my son, be warned, the writing of many books 00:09:28.640 |
is endless, and excessive study is wearying to the body." 00:09:36.280 |
Verse 13, "The conclusion," after he says this, "The conclusion, when everything has 00:09:42.120 |
been heard, is fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person." 00:09:51.920 |
In your own personal life, there is only one book that will actually feed your soul. 00:10:02.800 |
There is only one book that you prioritize as the crown jewel that dictates how you view 00:10:21.120 |
This includes even the writings of other hallowed and sacred theologians. 00:10:27.080 |
There is only one book that is all you need for life and godliness. 00:10:37.240 |
This ties in with the doctrine of the sufficiency of scripture, which I do plan on covering 00:10:43.760 |
But for now, I want to remind you that I'm giving you these resources not because I feel 00:10:51.780 |
that it is necessary for your life per se that you read up on them. 00:10:58.720 |
I'm giving them to you because if you are interested in the topic and you want the falsehood 00:11:06.360 |
to be unveiled, then those resources are available for you. 00:11:13.080 |
At the same time, I am hoping that you are able to philosophically and theologically 00:11:20.560 |
triage in your own personal life what is necessary versus what is important versus what is frivolous. 00:11:34.080 |
Do not sacrifice the necessary or the important for the frivolous. 00:11:43.560 |
If anything is going to be taken out, take out the frivolous and then you can have the 00:11:48.840 |
important but you never sacrifice what is necessary. 00:11:56.920 |
For the rest of the episode, I'm going to be conducting a book review for confronting 00:12:06.080 |
Confronting Injustice Without Compromising Truth by Thaddeus Williams. 00:12:10.740 |
I was very fortunate to be part of the launch team prior to the book being available to 00:12:17.240 |
the public and I have to say that this book exceeded my expectations. 00:12:25.240 |
Professor Williams states in the preface that it took him four years to write the book and 00:12:31.360 |
I could easily see why it took him four years to write the book. 00:12:36.520 |
The book is not only well written but it is easily digestible, it is heartfelt, it is 00:12:41.660 |
charitable without skipping on intellectual rigor. 00:12:47.000 |
The other exceedingly high compliment I would give it is that I came out of reading this 00:12:52.520 |
book thinking that the author completed this gargantuan task of tackling social justice 00:13:01.280 |
in the angle of the thoroughness of covering that subject. 00:13:12.600 |
As a disclaimer, as I conduct this book review for the rest of the episode, I'm going to 00:13:22.480 |
I'm not going to be saying quote each time because I will be saying it way too many times. 00:13:35.040 |
For the rest of this episode, I'm not going to be doing that because I will be doing that 00:13:47.680 |
I'm bringing it to you because this is a book review. 00:13:58.120 |
The foreword of this book is written by a former civil rights activist named John Perkins. 00:14:05.000 |
John Perkins is one of the few living civil rights activists who was active during the 00:14:17.360 |
So if you don't know who he is, insert him into a search engine and you'll quickly find 00:14:23.600 |
John Perkins writes in the foreword, "I was born on a Mississippi cotton plantation in 00:14:31.400 |
My mother died of nutrition deficiency when I was just 7 months old. 00:14:35.440 |
My big brother, a WWII veteran, was gunned down by a town marshal when I was 17 years 00:14:41.760 |
As a civil rights activist, I was jailed and beaten nearly to death by police. 00:14:47.120 |
They tortured me without mercy, stuck a fork up my nose and down my throat, then made me 00:14:55.600 |
It would have been the easiest thing in the world for me to answer hate with hate." 00:15:01.200 |
He goes on later in the foreword, "We are in the midst of a great upheaval. 00:15:06.200 |
There is much confusion, much anger, much injustice. 00:15:09.880 |
Sadly, many Christian brothers and sisters are trying to fight this fight with man-made 00:15:15.920 |
These solutions promise justice but deliver division and idolatry. 00:15:23.520 |
Thankfully, in these trying times, new conversations are happening and the right questions are 00:15:32.600 |
Professor Thaddeus Williams then begins the book by asking the question, "What is social 00:15:44.480 |
Every age of church history has its controversies and now the society and the church has our 00:15:49.880 |
He writes that in this century, you could learn about social justice auditing a college 00:15:53.720 |
course, joining an activist chapter in our coffee shops, ads for soda, shoes in the Super 00:15:59.000 |
Bowl, movies, Twitter feeds, national media, and our pulpits. 00:16:03.480 |
It is absolutely ubiquitous and it's everywhere. 00:16:07.760 |
While pinning today's situation, the author goes on to note that justice isn't optional 00:16:15.760 |
Indeed, the author rightly states that to seek justice is a clarion call of scripture 00:16:22.480 |
and those who plug their ears to that call are simply not living by the standard of scripture. 00:16:29.840 |
The Bible's call to seek justice, though, is not a call to superficial, knee-jerk activism. 00:16:36.680 |
We are not to seek justice but to truly seek justice, presupposing that there are untrue 00:16:44.760 |
We are to hold fast to what is good and test everything. 00:16:48.360 |
To aid in how the reader should think about the term social justice, the author, Professor 00:16:52.640 |
Thaddeus Williams, proposes to frame the dialectic, we know that word by now, into two positions 00:16:59.280 |
he calls social justice A and social justice B. Social justice A would encapsulate efforts 00:17:08.000 |
to abolish human trafficking, work with the inner city poor, invest in microloans to help 00:17:14.000 |
the destitute in the developing world, build hospitals, upend racism, protect the unborn. 00:17:20.560 |
Social justice B would be defined as a sort of thing that has taken an extremely charged 00:17:25.080 |
political meaning and has become a waving banner over movements like Antifa, the waving 00:17:31.160 |
banner of a disproportionate ratio of professors and universities around the nation where the 00:17:36.840 |
oppressor vs. oppressed narrative of deconstructionism is taken as objective. 00:17:43.200 |
Movements with the stated mission where they are trying to disrupt a western prescribed 00:17:48.980 |
nuclear family structure, and movements on college campuses that have resorted to violence 00:17:56.680 |
Using social justice A and social justice B, he calls upon Christians to not look down 00:18:05.400 |
on those who call for biblical discernment but rather to not be naive to the meanings 00:18:12.360 |
that have been baked into many minds with the word combination of social and justice. 00:18:21.600 |
The author goes on to state that the problem is not necessarily the quest for social justice 00:18:26.360 |
but what happens when that quest is undertaken from a framework that is not compatible with 00:18:35.760 |
Many Christians accept conclusions that are generated from worldviews that are wired with 00:18:40.560 |
very different presuppositions about reality than those we find in scripture. 00:18:47.400 |
We shirk God's commands and hurt his image bearers when we unwittingly allow unbiblical 00:18:53.280 |
worldview assumptions to shape our approach to justice. 00:18:59.240 |
Before beginning the book, he lists four disclaimers and they are the following. 00:19:04.280 |
Number one, social justice A, the kind of justice that flows from scripture, is not 00:19:10.560 |
synonymous with the republican party or its policies. 00:19:14.540 |
Number two, he is not building a straw man of social justice B, and his portrayal is 00:19:20.780 |
indeed representative of social justice B. Number three, this book should not be used 00:19:28.080 |
as a billy club to bash brothers or sisters that we disagree with. 00:19:33.160 |
Number four, the book takes aim at ideas and not people and it takes aim at those ideas 00:19:41.360 |
because they hurt people we are called to love. 00:19:49.600 |
After reading this portion of the book, my appetite to finish the rest of the book was 00:20:04.240 |
You can tell he's not only hitting the right points, but he understands the knee-jerk reaction 00:20:18.360 |
to reject what Christians might believe to be merely republicanism or merely competing 00:20:32.800 |
Here are the 12 questions that he asks in the book. 00:20:38.520 |
He divides it into four parts, and so each of the four parts has kind of a grouping to 00:20:49.480 |
Part one is this, Jehovah or Jezebel, three questions about social justice and worship. 00:20:56.920 |
Part one, Jehovah or Jezebel, three questions about social justice and worship. 00:21:04.240 |
Does our vision of social justice take seriously the Godhood of God? 00:21:11.360 |
Does our vision of social justice take seriously the Godhood of God? 00:21:18.260 |
Does our vision of social justice acknowledge the image of God in everyone, regardless of 00:21:32.180 |
Does our vision of social justice make a false God out of the self, the state, or social 00:21:42.040 |
Number two, unity or uproar, three questions about social justice and community. 00:21:52.480 |
Does our vision of social justice take any group identity more seriously than our identities 00:22:04.540 |
Does our vision of social justice embrace divisive propaganda? 00:22:12.280 |
Does our vision of social justice replace love, peace, and patience with suspicion, 00:22:21.560 |
Part three, sinners or systems, three questions about social justice and salvation. 00:22:32.080 |
Does our vision of social justice prefer damning stories to undamning facts? 00:22:41.400 |
Does our vision of social justice promote racial strife? 00:22:51.400 |
Does our vision of social justice distort the best news in history? 00:22:57.560 |
Last part, part four, truth or tribes thinking, three questions about social justice and salvation. 00:23:05.960 |
Truth or tribes thinking, three questions about social justice and knowledge. 00:23:15.500 |
Does our vision of social justice make one way of seeing something the only way of seeing 00:23:22.740 |
Does our vision of social justice make one way of seeing something the only way of seeing 00:23:31.120 |
Does our vision of social justice turn the lived experience of hurting people into more 00:23:37.940 |
Does our vision of social justice turn the lived experience of hurting people into more 00:23:44.360 |
The last question, number 12, the standpoint question. 00:23:48.640 |
Does our vision of social justice turn the quest for truth into an identity game? 00:23:56.280 |
Does our vision of social justice turn the quest for truth into an identity game? 00:24:02.640 |
The book also lists a pretty robust appendix section that tackles various questions that 00:24:10.960 |
are intriguing and relevant to many, such as abortion and the right to life, capitalism 00:24:18.160 |
and socialism, defining sexuality, fragility and anti-fragility, and an appendix entitled 00:24:24.640 |
— a portion of the appendix entitled Good News to the Poor. 00:24:28.200 |
At the end of each chapter for the 12 questions, he includes a short, often personal story 00:24:39.800 |
There are 12 chapters, so there are 12 other contributing authors. 00:24:44.680 |
This group is eclectic in nature, and they include people who came out of the woke movement 00:24:51.240 |
or are otherwise related to the topic of social justice. 00:24:56.920 |
I've already recommended a couple of them to you, Jamal Bandy, Samuel Tse, Monique Dusson 00:25:02.880 |
They're active on social media, they're also active in the celestial blogosphere. 00:25:09.360 |
So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to pose some of the questions, six of the 12, 00:25:17.840 |
and I'll give you a little snippet from the book of how we answered it. 00:25:27.160 |
Does our vision of social justice take seriously the Godhood of God? 00:25:33.520 |
Does our vision of social justice take seriously the Godhood of God? 00:25:39.840 |
Professor Thaddeus Williams, the author, states, "Paul knows that the human tree is so hopelessly 00:25:46.920 |
sick that whatever soil you plant in it, toxic fruit will form. 00:25:52.080 |
No amount of political revolution, social engineering, or policy tweaking will stop 00:25:57.320 |
envy, strife, deceit, and maliciousness from sprouting out of our sick hearts. 00:26:03.320 |
Why were all the utopias of the modern era doomed to fail? 00:26:06.480 |
Because the evil did not originate in politics, society, or the economy. 00:26:11.000 |
It is expressed there, but evil originates in human hearts that exchange the glory of 00:26:17.000 |
the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things, 00:26:23.280 |
and the sun and water and gold and sex and power." 00:26:30.760 |
Does our vision of social justice acknowledge the image of God in everyone, regardless 00:26:42.120 |
The author states, "There is a tendency today to reduce people not to bodies but to 00:26:48.200 |
We don't see a human being so much as we see social justice sylphics to our left and neo-Nazis 00:26:54.000 |
to our right, or we see and treat people on the basis of their skin color or gender or 00:27:01.280 |
That is why giving God his due is so important to real justice." 00:27:10.000 |
Does our vision of social justice make a false God out of the self, the state, or social 00:27:16.800 |
The author states in part, "The question is, who has the right, the trustworthiness, 00:27:22.120 |
the goodness, and the authority to render their verdict about who we really are?" 00:27:29.480 |
Herein lies one of the deepest problems with idolizing the self as sovereign. 00:27:33.320 |
The omnipotence-demanding task of constructing an entire person's nature is forced onto 00:27:42.000 |
Tragically, we buckle under the impossible weight. 00:27:48.880 |
Now I'm going to tackle question number six from the book. 00:27:56.500 |
Does our vision of social justice replace love, peace, and patience with suspicion, 00:28:05.320 |
Does our vision of social justice replace love, peace, and patience with suspicion, 00:28:10.880 |
The author states, "The kingdoms of the world play the self-defeating game of tribalizing, 00:28:17.240 |
retaliation, and escalation, running up body counts in the name of justice. 00:28:22.040 |
The kingdom Jesus invites us into does not play by those rules." 00:28:25.640 |
Corrie ten Boom showed her citizenship in Jesus' kingdom rather than the world's kingdoms 00:28:35.040 |
The kingdoms of the world play the self-defeating game of tribalizing, retaliation, and escalation, 00:28:40.200 |
running up body counts in the name of justice. 00:28:42.360 |
The kingdom Jesus invites us into does not play by those rules. 00:28:45.640 |
Corrie ten Boom showed her citizenship in Jesus' kingdom rather than the world's kingdoms 00:28:53.040 |
If you don't know that story, look up Corrie ten Boom. 00:29:02.360 |
Does our vision of social justice prefer damning stories to undamning facts? 00:29:07.840 |
The author states, "The point is not that there is no such thing as racism or sexism 00:29:11.360 |
or other vicious 'isms' wreaking havoc on earth. 00:29:15.240 |
Sinful 'isms' inflict hurt on some people groups that other people groups never have 00:29:20.480 |
The point is that shouting 'systemic injustice' at every unequal outcome is too easy. 00:29:26.240 |
In a world unlike ours with zero racism or sexism or any other evil 'ism,' there 00:29:31.920 |
would still be vast inequalities based on things as boring and undamning as geography, 00:29:40.600 |
age, birthdays, birth order, shopping, habits, desire to lay bricks, and so much more. 00:29:49.560 |
When we automatically assume damning explanations for unequal outcomes, we not only lock ourselves 00:29:56.400 |
in a prison of never-ending rage, but also dull our sense to the point that we will be 00:30:01.320 |
useless for the sacred task of recognizing and resisting the real racism, real sexism, 00:30:14.480 |
The last question I'll tackle here, the gospel question, that's number 9, the gospel 00:30:19.520 |
Does our vision of social justice distort the best news in history? 00:30:23.880 |
Does our vision of social justice distort the best news in history? 00:30:28.440 |
The Bible also commands that we tell the truth, that we give generously, that we love our 00:30:33.680 |
None of these commands are optional, yet none of these commands is the gospel. 00:30:37.900 |
We should not confuse any of these commands with the first thing. 00:30:41.360 |
If we do, then we will not only lose the gospel, but also find ourselves adhering to these 00:30:46.520 |
commands in a way that obliterates their essence. 00:30:50.160 |
Without the gospel first, we become graceless in our truth-telling, cheerless in our giving, 00:30:56.360 |
and our neighborly love turns into self-righteous showmanship. 00:31:00.720 |
Likewise, when the gospel is not our first thing, social justice becomes something else 00:31:11.200 |
So those are 6 questions out of the 12 in the book, and I've used 6 snippets from the 00:31:20.160 |
book to address those 6 questions that the author asks. 00:31:24.920 |
As you could probably tell from those snippets, the author's insight is astute, insightful, 00:31:34.600 |
and thoroughly grounded in proper theology and reality. 00:31:40.960 |
He really did go into great pains into interpreting reality correctly so that when he did apply 00:31:49.200 |
Biblical truth, we get a corresponding result that is right on the mark. 00:31:56.680 |
Interpreting reality correctly does seem to be a lost art, a lacking skill that very, 00:32:06.520 |
To emphasize its importance, I want to quote to you from 1 Chronicles 12.32. 00:32:12.560 |
1 Chronicles 12.42 says this in part, "From the sons of Issachar, men who understood the 00:32:22.480 |
times with knowledge of what Israel should do." 00:32:28.720 |
Here, when you think about what it takes to build a proper kingdom, society, nation, church, 00:32:42.520 |
you have to have men who understand the times. 00:32:50.680 |
That is another way of saying interpreting reality correctly, because if you don't, it 00:33:02.040 |
When someone is diagnosed with cancer, I'm not going to give them a Band-Aid. 00:33:11.000 |
If someone needs a Band-Aid, we are not going to say, "You should go and get radiation therapy." 00:33:19.600 |
You can see how and why men who understand the times is so very important. 00:33:31.220 |
If you are interested in this subject, I hope this episode whetted your appetite for the 00:33:37.920 |
I took the bulk of this episode to do a book review, because as I said in the beginning, 00:33:47.320 |
I found it remarkable that the author covered this subject in a very thorough manner that 00:34:01.480 |
That was very impressing to me, which is why I'm saying the same thing yet again at the 00:34:09.500 |
Being a self-described signpost theologian, this is one of those moments where I'm absolutely 00:34:14.560 |
pointing those who are interested in that direction. 00:34:22.160 |
I'll continue to try to make the journey worth it. 00:34:26.520 |
To Him be honor, glory, and eternal dominion.