back to index401k_Balances_by_Generation
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And in this episode, we want to talk about why 00:00:15.260 |
So, Fidelity recently came out with its average 00:00:35.640 |
But the millennials, the millennials generation, 00:00:39.240 |
many of which are now 40 and over, early 40s, 00:00:54.760 |
which I am technically a Gen Xer, born in 1977. 00:01:14.740 |
So, these numbers, millennials, Gen X, boomers, 00:01:22.860 |
because how on earth are you gonna be able to retire 00:01:45.740 |
You don't hear a retirement crisis in America 00:01:48.560 |
where our elders are getting thrown out of their houses 00:01:54.540 |
I mean, I don't see any kind of articles like that. 00:02:04.160 |
given how low the average and median balances are. 00:02:07.000 |
Really, we need to look at the median numbers 00:02:10.240 |
because several rich folks bring up the averages. 00:02:17.180 |
And one of the reasons why is because our older generation, 00:02:26.500 |
of American working population has a pension. 00:02:29.860 |
So, if you have a pension, consider yourself very lucky. 00:02:37.760 |
could be worth in the millions and millions of dollars. 00:02:41.900 |
about how to calculate the value of your pension, 00:02:45.460 |
which you should check out in the show notes. 00:02:55.900 |
- Well, one thing that you talked about in your post 00:03:03.180 |
they roll over their 401(k) into a rollover IRA. 00:03:11.460 |
So, Fidelity is just focusing on the accounts that they hold 00:03:16.540 |
So, there's other types of retirement accounts 00:03:22.340 |
like Vanguard and Principal and many, many other ones. 00:03:26.020 |
So, if you just look at the Fidelity numbers, 00:03:31.160 |
but Fidelity doesn't account for the entire 401(k) market. 00:03:36.580 |
When I left my job in 2012, I rolled it over into an IRA. 00:03:44.340 |
so therefore I couldn't roll it over to another 401(k) plan 00:03:52.940 |
I wrote a new post on the 60-day rollover rule, 00:03:58.540 |
to roll over your 401(k) or IRA to another plan, 00:04:12.100 |
so long as you put that money back within 60 days. 00:04:22.980 |
and you wanna tap your tax-advantaged accounts, 00:04:39.060 |
I had maximum flexibility to invest in whatever I wanted, 00:04:51.900 |
And so, overall, that has turned out pretty well 00:04:58.700 |
and that is something that people need to be aware of. 00:05:27.780 |
for what I think people should have in their 401(k)s 00:05:30.380 |
if they continuously max them out at the age of 46, 00:05:38.240 |
for my generation of 44,000 for Gen X is quite high. 00:06:02.840 |
and I have a SEP IRA and I have a solo 401(k), 00:06:07.340 |
combined, these tax advantage counts is over a million. 00:06:21.580 |
- So, I actually don't have any 401(k)s anymore. 00:06:32.880 |
So, I have three different types of retirement accounts. 00:06:35.560 |
And I am not counting on Social Security for my retirement, 00:06:39.800 |
although I'm gonna treat it as a bonus if I do get it. 00:06:47.640 |
So, I'm also investing in my after-tax investment account 00:06:57.160 |
For those who wanna achieve financial freedom 00:07:01.680 |
you really need to beef up your taxable portfolio, 00:07:11.440 |
are what's gonna spit out that tappable passive income 00:07:16.320 |
that you can use to live your life until 59 1/2, 00:07:20.400 |
when you can touch your 401(k) and IRA money penalty-free, 00:07:28.120 |
when you are eligible to withdraw from Social Security. 00:07:32.800 |
I think the maximum Social Security benefit amount 00:07:45.140 |
because the FICA tax limit is something like 122,600, 00:07:50.140 |
where the FICA tax and Social Security and Medicaid tax, 00:07:56.480 |
So, we've been able to make that for a long time now. 00:08:00.440 |
if we do get Social Security payments in 15 years, 00:08:04.300 |
it should be pretty good, because inflation adjusted, 00:08:10.720 |
Do you think you can live off 4,000 plus a month? 00:08:55.760 |
for those who earn over 200,000 for single filers, 00:09:06.400 |
It's interesting how I haven't been in the workforce 00:09:17.960 |
- No, I wouldn't know exactly off the top of my head. 00:09:20.800 |
122 or 23 or whatever you said did sound a little bit low, 00:09:41.320 |
which specifically is 6.2% Social Security tax, 00:09:58.800 |
So, we're talking double 7.65%, and that is a lot. 00:10:06.720 |
who are self-employed often incorporate as an S-corp, 00:10:16.360 |
in terms of distributions, which don't pay the FICA tax. 00:10:20.680 |
And this is a little bit complicated in the weeds, 00:10:27.880 |
really be much greater than 50% of your total compensation. 00:10:38.320 |
is because I think life just gets in the way. 00:10:41.080 |
Many readers have told me about their situations, 00:10:46.840 |
He's 42 years old, and he makes $120,000 a year 00:10:57.480 |
He said he never considered maxing out his 401(k) 00:11:00.200 |
because he always thought he wouldn't have enough money left 00:11:07.320 |
and decided to stay at home after giving birth. 00:11:29.600 |
So, she pays $500 a month in student loans now 00:11:35.800 |
After seven and a half years of working at a reputable firm, 00:11:46.520 |
And she basically said, look, education is expensive, 00:11:49.960 |
and she had debt, and she lived in a high-cost living area, 00:12:08.520 |
She was burned out and wanted to try something new, 00:12:20.360 |
while she was standing in front of a hot stove 00:12:26.700 |
But that two-year hiatus cost her a lot of contributions. 00:12:31.700 |
And here's another case study by a highly educated couple. 00:12:40.600 |
and incur substantial debt before they start working. 00:12:43.820 |
For example, I am a lawyer that obtained a master's degree 00:12:46.780 |
and then a law degree before starting my career at age 28. 00:12:50.600 |
My wife is a doctor who completed her residency 00:13:16.020 |
What is misleading as to why many people's 401ks 00:13:18.860 |
are half or less than what they should be is one word. 00:13:26.820 |
When I was 37 in 2008, I had $125,000 in my 401k, 00:13:37.860 |
Seven years later, my portfolio recovered to $130,000, 00:13:49.980 |
and many men are paying child support and alimony, 00:13:54.360 |
we now have nothing for years to invest, but I digress. 00:14:02.860 |
whether you're changing jobs, getting a divorce, 00:14:05.820 |
going through a bear market, paying off student loan debt, 00:14:09.500 |
trying to help a loved one with their finances. 00:14:12.700 |
Life gets in the way, which is why there's that old saying, 00:14:16.660 |
pay yourself first before life gets in the way. 00:14:20.060 |
So try to max out your 401k as much as possible. 00:14:25.940 |
going to hurt for that long, because you will adjust 00:14:32.700 |
It's like a tax cut as well as a pay cut for your future self. 00:14:37.820 |
So we've heard about the various median 401k balances 00:14:42.100 |
by generation, and this really dovetails well 00:14:45.700 |
with a previous study from Northwestern Mutual Online, 00:14:52.580 |
the expected amount needed to retire comfortably. 00:15:01.740 |
saved across all age brackets, which was $89,300. 00:15:06.740 |
So there is a huge, huge 1.2 plus million gap 00:15:11.220 |
in terms of the expected amount and the amount currently 00:15:14.900 |
And if we look at, let's say, the expected amount needed 00:15:19.180 |
to retire comfortably for those in their 50s, 00:15:27.980 |
But the actual amount that people in their 50s saved 00:15:35.260 |
And then if you look at the 60s, this is interesting. 00:15:47.100 |
So something happens there where people transition 00:15:49.420 |
from working in their 50s to retiring in their 60s, 00:15:57.460 |
doesn't cost as much to retire as I thought it did. 00:16:06.980 |
But the bad thing is the actual amount people in their 60s 00:16:22.180 |
So once again, there seems to be a disconnect with how much 00:16:25.780 |
we think we need to retire and live comfortably 00:16:31.260 |
And I can explain the one thing that I realized 00:16:39.700 |
realize I no longer needed to save for retirement. 00:16:43.620 |
Because if I was truly retired and happy with the net worth 00:16:46.580 |
and the investments that I had, I no longer had to save. 00:16:49.860 |
So I was saving 50%, 60%, 70%, 75%, maybe 80% 00:16:54.940 |
of my after-tax income over the last 10 years before I retired. 00:17:19.940 |
And when I did leave in 2012, I had about $80,000 00:17:24.980 |
in passive and semi-passive investment income. 00:17:28.380 |
So suddenly, I didn't have to save 70% anymore. 00:17:32.180 |
And I was living off $80,000, which after-tax, let's say, 00:17:51.140 |
because I had been saving so aggressively for so long. 00:17:54.540 |
So that is an inside scoop that I felt firsthand. 00:17:58.540 |
And hopefully, this gives people a little bit better calibration 00:18:03.220 |
You probably don't need as much as you think. 00:18:05.820 |
We talk a lot about the 4% rule, the rate of withdrawal, 00:18:11.500 |
We talk about the financial samurai safe rate 00:18:14.180 |
of withdrawal, which is 80% of the 10-year bond yield, which 00:18:22.660 |
equal to 10 to 20 times your average gross income. 00:18:28.300 |
I think using a multiple of gross income is more honest. 00:18:33.620 |
It's better, because you can't cheat your way 00:18:36.620 |
to early retirement or financial independence 00:18:43.620 |
What are your thoughts about where we are, where you are? 00:18:47.740 |
How do you feel about going into the later part of your years 00:18:53.620 |
And how do you think about retirement in general? 00:18:58.460 |
I don't have a traditional 9 to 5 job anymore. 00:19:08.820 |
that I have saved if I combine all of my retirement accounts 00:19:15.620 |
And also, just with the way we live our lives, 00:19:19.380 |
I think we have a lot of frugal ways in our day-to-day living. 00:19:31.740 |
without having two jobs with retirement benefits 00:19:40.660 |
to supplement the lack of having those traditional retirement 00:19:59.380 |
The median amount people have saved overall, so low. 00:20:06.020 |
Life continues to go on in general pretty solidly, 00:20:12.500 |
So it seems to me that we have enough safety nets, 00:20:16.140 |
whether it's through the pension, social security, 00:20:18.820 |
401(k), IRA, SEP IRA, 403(b), and also side jobs and hustles, 00:20:25.540 |
where things will probably be OK, hopefully, for most people. 00:20:30.260 |
And also, there's this huge inheritance windfall 00:20:34.700 |
And it's supposedly tens of trillions of dollars 00:20:37.300 |
as the boomer generation passes away and leaves it 00:20:42.420 |
And given that the boomers have been investing and saving 00:20:44.820 |
for the longest, during the biggest and longest bull 00:20:48.660 |
market in history, there's a lot of wealth transfer to be had. 00:20:53.540 |
Yeah, we've been hearing about that for many years 00:21:02.740 |
getting any secret inheritance from our own parents. 00:21:06.860 |
But I think there are a lot of adults our age out there 00:21:20.460 |
live at home with their parents in their 20s and 30s 00:21:29.420 |
And they just end up living in their parents' homes. 00:21:32.340 |
And so the easiest and most common wealth transfer, 00:21:42.060 |
So instead of giving money, give the gift of education. 00:21:48.020 |
although community college is looking more and more 00:22:10.420 |
If you still want to pick up a copy of our book, 00:22:12.380 |
"By This, Not That," go to financialsamurai.com/bythisnotthat. 00:22:21.580 |
of a job you dislike, definitely try to negotiate a severance