Everyday Educator - Memory Master: Tips, Tricks, Fun!
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00:00:02.580 | - Welcome friends to this episode
00:00:06.400 | of the "Everyday Educator" podcast.
00:00:09.320 | I'm your host, Lisa Bailey,
00:00:11.040 | and I'm excited to spend some time with you today
00:00:14.040 | as we encourage one another, learn together,
00:00:17.720 | and ponder the delights and challenges
00:00:20.920 | that make homeschooling the adventure of a lifetime.
00:00:24.320 | Whether you're just considering
00:00:26.540 | this homeschooling possibility or deep into
00:00:30.200 | the daily delight of family learning,
00:00:33.160 | I believe you'll enjoy thinking along with us.
00:00:36.960 | But don't forget, although this online community is awesome,
00:00:41.480 | you'll find even closer support in a local CC community.
00:00:46.480 | So go to classicalconversations.com
00:00:51.160 | and find a community near you today.
00:00:55.540 | Well, listeners, welcome and happy new year.
00:00:58.560 | Happy January.
00:01:00.060 | It is cold at my house right now.
00:01:02.800 | I am actually looking forward to some snow
00:01:06.960 | and maybe you guys are too, wherever you are,
00:01:10.120 | wherever you're listening to this podcast.
00:01:12.440 | Snowy days are great times to hunker down
00:01:17.200 | and be inside with your family
00:01:19.280 | and have some great conversations
00:01:21.120 | and some hot chocolate and some read along.
00:01:23.460 | And, hey, maybe even play some memory games.
00:01:28.080 | I've noticed on our Facebook page
00:01:31.160 | over the last couple of weeks
00:01:33.040 | that there have been lots of families
00:01:35.000 | who have started thinking about Memory Master.
00:01:39.160 | As our foundation's year draws to a close,
00:01:43.040 | a lot of families are thinking,
00:01:44.640 | hey, maybe my child really could be a Memory Master
00:01:48.920 | or what are some ways for us to practice
00:01:51.680 | all this memory work we've spent all these hours pursuing
00:01:56.000 | and filing away this year?
00:01:58.240 | So I grabbed my good friend, Kelly Wilt,
00:02:01.520 | and we want to talk to you today
00:02:04.320 | about Memory Master tips, tricks, and fun.
00:02:08.440 | Kelly, you are just the girl for this.
00:02:11.000 | - Oh, Lisa, you know I can talk about Memory Master anytime.
00:02:14.880 | And for anyone who's listening at home,
00:02:17.880 | maybe your family has made a new year's resolution
00:02:20.760 | to really emphasize practicing memory work at home together,
00:02:25.720 | making it fun with the goal of Memory Master this cycle.
00:02:30.640 | And I will say, it is not too late for you to do that.
00:02:34.040 | - Absolutely not.
00:02:35.120 | - So this is a well-timed podcast
00:02:37.920 | and hopefully it will encourage some friends
00:02:39.820 | who are contemplating whether or not
00:02:41.320 | this is doable for 2025.
00:02:43.760 | - That's really good.
00:02:44.600 | But you know what?
00:02:45.440 | One thing that you said at the beginning,
00:02:47.600 | I really kind of want to emphasize,
00:02:50.240 | even if your family is brand new to CC
00:02:54.800 | and you just kind of dipped your toe into it this year
00:02:57.280 | and you're just kind of taking a let's sit back
00:02:59.720 | and see how it goes.
00:03:00.680 | And Memory Master is not something
00:03:02.840 | that tricked your trigger, tripped your trigger,
00:03:05.320 | and you don't really want to do that.
00:03:07.120 | This is still a great podcast for you
00:03:09.480 | because we're going to be talking about
00:03:12.280 | how you and your family can practice memory work together
00:03:17.760 | and the benefits that you will get may have nothing to do
00:03:22.760 | with becoming a Memory Master in community.
00:03:25.660 | - It's so true.
00:03:28.160 | There is so much more to the Memory Master process
00:03:31.720 | and becoming a Memory Master
00:03:33.560 | than solely committing facts to memory and reciting them.
00:03:36.760 | - Yeah, and it's not about a competition.
00:03:39.520 | Okay, in fact, let's just, if somebody, Kelly,
00:03:42.840 | if somebody came up to you and asked you just off the cuff
00:03:46.120 | to explain Memory Master, what would you say?
00:03:50.800 | What is it that you think is the most important aspect
00:03:54.360 | to convey to somebody who's curious?
00:03:58.520 | - That's a really good question, Lisa,
00:04:00.240 | because as homeschooling families,
00:04:02.320 | a lot of times we love to talk about
00:04:03.680 | the things that we're doing
00:04:05.040 | and the things that we're involved in.
00:04:06.440 | And if you're speaking to someone
00:04:08.360 | who doesn't have intimate knowledge
00:04:10.160 | of classical conversations,
00:04:11.960 | they might wonder, what is a Memory Master?
00:04:14.260 | Why is it a big deal?
00:04:15.680 | So a Memory Master, the title Memory Master
00:04:19.520 | is an honor that's given to our foundation students
00:04:21.800 | who mastered all of the memory work subjects
00:04:25.320 | for the current cycle of that academic year.
00:04:28.120 | And of course, that includes all the memory work
00:04:30.600 | for history and geography and English grammar
00:04:34.000 | and Latin and math and science.
00:04:36.000 | And of course, our beloved timeline.
00:04:38.400 | - Yes.
00:04:39.680 | - They're able to recite all of that to their parents
00:04:43.340 | and then to another adult
00:04:48.260 | and then to their foundations tutor
00:04:49.840 | and finally to their director.
00:04:52.640 | And I think one of the things that is difficult
00:04:55.520 | for people outside of CC to comprehend
00:04:58.240 | is the vast amount of information
00:05:01.240 | that our foundation students master
00:05:03.880 | over the course of a cycle.
00:05:05.700 | And for some families coming into CC,
00:05:07.800 | that can feel a little intimidating at first.
00:05:11.680 | I remember here, when I first heard
00:05:14.080 | about classical conversations,
00:05:15.960 | and I mean, I was so green.
00:05:18.080 | I didn't know what a cycle was.
00:05:19.920 | I didn't know what a Memory Master was.
00:05:21.480 | I didn't know what a strand was.
00:05:23.160 | And so when you're talking about for a cycle,
00:05:26.320 | that's the material for one community year.
00:05:31.160 | So the time that your family has spent
00:05:34.280 | with this community this year, that's a cycle.
00:05:39.080 | So all of that memory work.
00:05:40.600 | And when I looked at how many pieces it was,
00:05:44.000 | my girls were little.
00:05:45.240 | They were like second grade and fifth grade.
00:05:47.320 | And I thought, that seems like a little bit
00:05:50.740 | of craziness that you're talking to me right there.
00:05:55.000 | Now, I quickly, I will, disclaimer,
00:05:57.160 | I quickly discovered that it was only craziness for mama
00:06:01.320 | and that those little brains,
00:06:02.960 | those little plastic brains absorbed that stuff really well.
00:06:07.080 | But you're right.
00:06:08.480 | It can seem intimidating when you say it out loud.
00:06:12.640 | So how many pieces of memory work are we talking, friend?
00:06:16.720 | - Oh, Lisa, I wish I could give you an exact number.
00:06:19.840 | I do know that our geographic locations alone,
00:06:23.320 | number 120, individual locations.
00:06:27.000 | - And that's one subject strand.
00:06:29.120 | That's just geography.
00:06:31.800 | - Exactly.
00:06:32.640 | But you know what?
00:06:33.460 | You were so right.
00:06:34.300 | Little brains can do great big things.
00:06:36.720 | And it's natural.
00:06:38.360 | - We teach them lots of songs and finger plays.
00:06:42.080 | There are lots of good memory tricks
00:06:45.280 | that we use that allow our children
00:06:49.360 | to fold all of that material into their little brains.
00:06:53.120 | Man.
00:06:53.960 | - So true.
00:06:54.780 | So true because they're curious about this memory work.
00:06:58.360 | And when we present it to them in a way that is playful,
00:07:01.900 | it attaches to their memory
00:07:03.320 | and it becomes a part of who they are.
00:07:04.800 | And it's a wonderful thing
00:07:06.520 | to be walking down the aisle in the grocery store
00:07:08.920 | and suddenly your children burst into the president's song.
00:07:11.920 | Or they see those connections from their memory work
00:07:17.200 | in the world all around them.
00:07:18.720 | And how rewarding is that?
00:07:20.920 | Once those conversations start, what a blessing.
00:07:24.160 | - Yeah, I love it.
00:07:25.200 | That is really cool.
00:07:26.360 | So it is about memorizing facts
00:07:31.360 | that our children have been presented with
00:07:34.760 | all throughout the community year together
00:07:38.360 | in a bunch of different subjects.
00:07:40.040 | So that's what Memory Master is.
00:07:41.840 | So why is it?
00:07:42.980 | 'Cause I can tell that you love Memory Master.
00:07:45.080 | And I know, I've always known
00:07:47.120 | that you were a Memory Master lover.
00:07:49.480 | Why is it a great endeavor
00:07:53.720 | even if some of our listeners are kind of pulling back
00:07:57.880 | saying, you know, our family's not competitive
00:08:01.480 | or we don't want to be competitive with our learning.
00:08:06.240 | Why is Memory Master still a great thing to be involved in?
00:08:11.240 | - Yeah, you know, I think one thing to be mindful of
00:08:16.440 | as a parent is to understand that becoming a Memory Master
00:08:20.120 | is not an on-off switch, that it really is a journey.
00:08:24.320 | And it's a delightful journey
00:08:26.600 | because we take it one step at a time
00:08:30.400 | and we look at our children as individuals.
00:08:32.500 | And Lisa, you know, when you said the word competitive
00:08:35.280 | it made me think about all of the C words
00:08:38.480 | that we have associated with classical conversations.
00:08:41.920 | So, you know, as we're preparing for Memory Master
00:08:45.120 | there are some C words
00:08:46.560 | that I would encourage parents to pursue
00:08:49.240 | and to cultivate in their children.
00:08:51.440 | And there are some C words that I would tell them to avoid.
00:08:53.640 | - Okay, okay, okay.
00:08:55.360 | Let's hear that 'cause that might help
00:08:57.080 | some of our on-the-fence parents
00:08:59.120 | see what this could be for them.
00:09:02.640 | So what are the Cs that we should strive for
00:09:07.640 | or that we should embrace?
00:09:10.660 | - Okay, so the first C word
00:09:12.360 | that I think you should strive for,
00:09:14.280 | if you decide in 2025 to commit to practicing memory work
00:09:19.280 | is to be consistent.
00:09:21.840 | And so, you know, and that truly is something
00:09:23.800 | that we want our children to be as well.
00:09:26.680 | You know, as they're working through, you know,
00:09:29.200 | their studies, we want them to be able to do hard things
00:09:33.540 | with consistency and to do them well.
00:09:35.680 | So as parents, we have to be consistent
00:09:38.240 | in practicing the memory work with our children.
00:09:42.440 | And I know, you know, we have snow potentially coming.
00:09:47.080 | Tonight, I will tell you,
00:09:48.340 | I have adult children still living in our home.
00:09:50.880 | We will put our pajamas on inside out
00:09:53.080 | and flush ice cubes as a tradition.
00:09:55.320 | (both laughing)
00:09:57.120 | But snow days, those types of things
00:10:00.880 | are unique opportunities for you to be consistent
00:10:05.360 | in a wonderful way with your family.
00:10:08.040 | So the first C word that I would say to strive for
00:10:10.640 | is to be consistent.
00:10:12.200 | You know, just do it, just consistently.
00:10:16.760 | The second C word that I would say you need to strive for
00:10:20.960 | in practicing memory work is to be creative.
00:10:24.600 | I mean, you know, we are dealing with children here
00:10:27.920 | and children, just like we adults,
00:10:31.440 | don't want to simply sit in a chair
00:10:34.080 | and do everything in a monotone voice,
00:10:37.120 | unless that's part of fun.
00:10:38.440 | - Right, right, right.
00:10:39.800 | Unless you're doing the robot version of memory work, yes.
00:10:44.320 | - That's right, which does happen.
00:10:45.800 | - It does.
00:10:46.880 | - You know, we want to look for unique ways
00:10:50.760 | to plant those seeds of memory in our children's minds.
00:10:54.280 | And sometimes we can do that by being goofy.
00:10:57.480 | We can do that by moving our bodies,
00:11:00.800 | by helping our children associate things
00:11:03.480 | with other things that they've already memorized or mastered.
00:11:07.440 | There are so many ways that we can be creative
00:11:10.760 | to find the currency that our children need
00:11:14.600 | in order to commit these things to memory.
00:11:16.680 | And, you know, for my own children,
00:11:18.760 | I know I had two, at one point, two boys
00:11:23.000 | who have now grown up into young men,
00:11:25.280 | who, you know, what would make it stick
00:11:27.400 | was different for each of them.
00:11:28.520 | - Oh, absolutely, yeah.
00:11:30.120 | - But there was one commonality that drew them together,
00:11:32.720 | and that was their love of the Nerf gun.
00:11:34.360 | - I was gonna say, it's gotta be a sword or a Nerf gun.
00:11:37.800 | Yeah, I can picture it.
00:11:39.920 | - Absolutely, so if I could find a way to involve a Nerf gun
00:11:43.400 | in the review of memory work, then it was going to stick.
00:11:46.200 | So parents, you know, that's the wonderful thing
00:11:48.240 | about our children.
00:11:49.320 | We can find those things that speak to them.
00:11:52.520 | You know, maybe you have a ballet-loving daughter
00:11:55.320 | who wants to turn pirouettes as she skip counts.
00:11:58.280 | - Oh my, that'd be awesome.
00:11:59.760 | - Or you have a young man who is all about dinosaurs,
00:12:04.520 | and you ask him to put the dinosaurs on the geography map
00:12:08.160 | and label, where's the Stegosaurus?
00:12:09.880 | Or, you know, where's the Brachiosaurus?
00:12:12.040 | - Yes.
00:12:12.880 | - Think outside the box and be creative with your children.
00:12:17.880 | And the third one, I think, could possibly be
00:12:21.040 | the most important C, and that is to be celebratory.
00:12:25.440 | So Lisa, you've already alluded to this a little bit.
00:12:28.000 | You know, when you look at,
00:12:29.840 | when you come into Classical Conversations
00:12:31.600 | within the Foundations program,
00:12:33.920 | you may look at this amount of information
00:12:35.960 | as being a little overwhelming your first year,
00:12:38.160 | and that is totally understandable,
00:12:40.760 | particularly if you do have a younger student
00:12:44.720 | who's participating, and you know,
00:12:46.080 | you wanna get your feet underneath you
00:12:47.600 | and really develop a fuller understanding
00:12:49.960 | of what is Foundations, why is this important?
00:12:53.640 | Why do we want to do this as a family?
00:12:56.040 | But you know what?
00:12:56.880 | Even if you look at your child and you know,
00:12:59.760 | this may not be the year to be a memory master,
00:13:01.960 | your child can still be a subject star.
00:13:05.280 | - That's a good idea, yeah.
00:13:07.640 | - Maybe there's one subject, or two or three,
00:13:10.520 | depending on how, you know,
00:13:11.760 | what your child takes an interest in.
00:13:14.800 | Maybe there are some subjects
00:13:17.120 | that you know they can commit to memory.
00:13:19.440 | Maybe they sing the timeline song in the bathtub
00:13:22.320 | and you can hear them through the door.
00:13:24.040 | You know, maybe they really enjoy the history sentences,
00:13:29.000 | and that is the thing that has captured their imagination.
00:13:32.240 | Celebrate where you are and keep striving,
00:13:36.720 | keep moving forward to your family goal.
00:13:41.320 | And so celebrate whether or not your child
00:13:44.360 | is a subject star, or if your child is a memory master,
00:13:49.160 | or anything in between,
00:13:51.160 | because memory master itself is a fantastic goal
00:13:55.880 | for your foundation student.
00:13:57.400 | Now, I also said, there are some C's we need to avoid.
00:14:00.560 | - Before you tell us the avoiding things,
00:14:02.840 | I want to say what I really love
00:14:06.000 | about what you've already told us,
00:14:08.280 | is that none of this requires us to be competitive.
00:14:13.280 | None of this requires us to be me against you,
00:14:17.440 | or us against them.
00:14:18.800 | What I love about all the things that you've told us
00:14:22.040 | is that it is a way to draw your family closer together.
00:14:27.040 | - Yes.
00:14:28.040 | - It's something that you can do with all of your kids,
00:14:31.920 | and you and your spouse, everybody can do this together.
00:14:34.760 | It's a great way to spend time together,
00:14:37.200 | talking about things and playing together,
00:14:41.000 | having great conversations and common experiences.
00:14:44.360 | So that, right there to me, that's worth it.
00:14:47.800 | If there's anything that can draw your family
00:14:50.880 | into having fun together, we should pursue it.
00:14:53.840 | So thank you for that.
00:14:55.000 | - Absolutely.
00:14:55.840 | - Now, tell us the C's we want to avoid
00:14:59.080 | so we don't put our foot in it.
00:15:00.640 | - Okay, well, the first C that you definitely need to avoid
00:15:06.040 | is almost the mirror opposite our first C to strive for.
00:15:11.040 | We said we wanted to be consistent,
00:15:14.680 | so we're gonna avoid being complacent.
00:15:18.160 | And, oh, I'm telling you as a homeschooler,
00:15:21.360 | I've homeschooled my children altogether
00:15:23.720 | for more than 20 years now, which is an incredible thing,
00:15:26.240 | but I'm telling you, there is something
00:15:28.280 | about the month of January into February
00:15:31.920 | that can sometimes be the slump for us,
00:15:35.920 | and we wanna avoid that.
00:15:38.000 | As we're working on Memory Master,
00:15:39.920 | avoid complacency at all costs.
00:15:44.520 | So you're gonna have to look at this process
00:15:47.920 | and practicing for Memory Master in new and different ways,
00:15:52.160 | and you're gonna have to sit in,
00:15:54.040 | I hesitate to say sit in the chair,
00:15:56.440 | but you're gonna have to commit to that way
00:15:59.480 | with your family and be consistent with what you do.
00:16:04.320 | The second C to avoid is the opposite
00:16:09.080 | of our second C we want to strive for.
00:16:11.720 | You know, we said we wanna be creative,
00:16:14.040 | so the opposite of that would be
00:16:15.640 | to avoid being constrictive.
00:16:18.480 | And so, you know, when we talk about being creative,
00:16:21.320 | we're thinking outside the box.
00:16:23.480 | You know, being constrictive,
00:16:25.760 | don't feel as if you always have to review memory work
00:16:30.000 | the same way, you know, look for different ways,
00:16:33.640 | because perhaps the first way
00:16:35.760 | that you try to commit it to memory doesn't stick.
00:16:38.680 | And, you know, after several rounds of that,
00:16:40.720 | and you've been consistent, and you've repeated,
00:16:43.560 | and it's just not there,
00:16:44.440 | it might be time to consider something different.
00:16:47.680 | So don't constrict yourself
00:16:49.800 | to mastering the memory work the way that you began
00:16:52.440 | if it's not working for your family,
00:16:54.240 | because you have the flexibility to change that,
00:16:58.560 | like we said, according to the currency
00:17:01.000 | that allows it to be mastered by your child at home.
00:17:06.000 | And then-- - I love it,
00:17:07.680 | 'cause you can become Mary Poppins.
00:17:09.440 | Snap, the job's a game, come on.
00:17:12.400 | Let's just don't be so constrictive.
00:17:14.720 | Yeah, and you know, for type A moms and dads,
00:17:17.760 | it might be really hard.
00:17:19.160 | Maybe one of the ways you're trying to avoid complacency
00:17:23.720 | is by being constrictive and doing it.
00:17:27.040 | We're going to do it at this time
00:17:29.120 | for this amount of time, every day in this way,
00:17:32.840 | but that might kill the joy,
00:17:34.240 | and snap, it will not be a game,
00:17:36.280 | and it will not be fun.
00:17:38.280 | I love that.
00:17:39.120 | Okay, got it.
00:17:39.960 | So what's the third one?
00:17:41.440 | I love that.
00:17:42.360 | Well, and we said that our third C
00:17:44.720 | that we're striving for is celebratory.
00:17:47.040 | And Lisa, you've already alluded to a quote
00:17:50.440 | that is so meaningful to me,
00:17:52.040 | and it's a C.S. Lewis quote that says,
00:17:54.200 | "Comparison is the thief of joy."
00:17:57.840 | And you know, when we're celebrating,
00:17:59.560 | we're joyful, we're exuberant.
00:18:01.840 | We are so excited about what we're able
00:18:04.440 | to accomplish together as families.
00:18:07.720 | And as a mom, sometimes it can be easy
00:18:11.560 | to look at one child and say,
00:18:14.040 | "Well, why can't you do this like your brother?
00:18:17.480 | "Why can't you do this like your sister?"
00:18:19.400 | Or even outside the family, you know,
00:18:22.280 | "Why aren't you doing this like your friend so-and-so?
00:18:25.680 | "You know, they're doing a great job."
00:18:27.920 | There's nothing that kills the joy
00:18:29.640 | of a foundation student more
00:18:32.120 | than being compared to another one.
00:18:33.560 | Especially when you get the short end of that comparison.
00:18:36.880 | - Exactly, exactly.
00:18:39.200 | So we want to maintain a joyful spirit
00:18:43.880 | by not comparing where we are to others.
00:18:46.040 | And that also is a characteristic
00:18:48.840 | that we wanna cultivate in our children.
00:18:51.040 | We want them to see themselves where they are
00:18:54.120 | and to continue on the path that's been laid before them,
00:18:58.280 | not try to hop off their path onto someone else's path
00:19:02.360 | where they may be at a different place.
00:19:04.600 | And we've all been given different giftings from the world.
00:19:08.680 | And so, you know, comparing one child to another
00:19:13.680 | is like comparing a fish that can swim
00:19:15.600 | to a fish that can ride a bicycle.
00:19:17.520 | You know, it doesn't work out so well
00:19:19.080 | for the fish who's trying to pedal with his fins,
00:19:21.080 | but the fish that's in the water does a great job.
00:19:23.320 | So we want to be really careful
00:19:25.320 | that we're being celebratory of each of our children,
00:19:29.240 | where they are and for what they're attempting to accomplish.
00:19:34.240 | - That's really good, that's just really good.
00:19:36.480 | And I think you have shown us a lot of ways
00:19:40.520 | that there are real bonuses for Memory Master,
00:19:45.520 | whether or not your child achieves mastery
00:19:49.200 | in every subject, there are good habits being developed,
00:19:54.200 | there are good family relationships being strengthened.
00:20:00.160 | Any other bonuses of working on Memory Master
00:20:03.680 | that you can think of, Kelly?
00:20:06.200 | - Oh, I think just setting for our children an example
00:20:09.440 | that they can do hard things
00:20:12.080 | and that if they are consistent
00:20:14.800 | and they're thinking creatively
00:20:17.040 | and they're celebrating those steps along the way,
00:20:20.520 | that they can accomplish greater goals by doing that,
00:20:25.200 | I think is such a wonderful skill for any student to have,
00:20:29.000 | particularly before they move into challenge A and B
00:20:32.280 | and beyond, because they're going to encounter
00:20:35.680 | those growing edge opportunities in challenge.
00:20:40.440 | And if they already have built the mental muscle
00:20:44.000 | to accomplish these goals of being a subject star
00:20:48.400 | or a Memory Master, then the mental lifting
00:20:52.960 | and the dedication that's required
00:20:54.840 | to do something consistently and do it well
00:20:57.680 | will seem familiar and will seem much lighter
00:21:02.120 | to their minds and to their hearts.
00:21:04.560 | - Yeah, you know, I'm embarrassed to say
00:21:07.520 | that I never really thought about the fact
00:21:10.560 | that our Memory Masters from foundations
00:21:14.960 | already have had modeled for them
00:21:17.800 | or they've already learned or they've already practiced
00:21:20.680 | ways to take a big job and break it into smaller chunks.
00:21:24.960 | And so you're right, that is a beautiful skill.
00:21:28.600 | They have already discovered
00:21:30.560 | that the best way to eat an elephant
00:21:32.920 | is one bite at a time.
00:21:34.320 | The best way to memorize a bunch of stuff
00:21:37.160 | is to divide it into sections
00:21:39.480 | and work a little bit at a time.
00:21:42.280 | That's the way you build a debate
00:21:44.800 | and that's the way you write an essay
00:21:47.000 | and that's the way you translate a chapter of the Bible.
00:21:51.480 | You start with a word or a sentence and work out.
00:21:55.880 | So that's really good, that is a great skill.
00:21:58.960 | That's a great skill.
00:21:59.800 | - Okay, so help us out here.
00:22:01.880 | We are now all ready.
00:22:03.080 | We are in, we see that it's a good thing for our family.
00:22:06.560 | It's great to stretch our memory muscles
00:22:09.440 | even as old parents can get in on the fun
00:22:13.360 | and that's a great thing.
00:22:14.280 | So what are some of the fun ways
00:22:17.120 | that we can work on memorizing
00:22:19.200 | and mastering all those memories?
00:22:21.360 | And I know review games are great
00:22:23.960 | and our tutors, foundations tutors do an amazing job
00:22:28.320 | of modeling those kinds of games on community day
00:22:32.120 | but what else is there?
00:22:33.960 | I mean, besides throwing the cards
00:22:36.160 | in the middle of the floor and saying,
00:22:37.960 | I'm gonna start the stopwatch and you say help out.
00:22:41.080 | What can we do?
00:22:41.960 | What are some more fun things we can do to review?
00:22:45.960 | - Oh, this is one of my favorite things to talk about.
00:22:48.320 | I'm so glad you asked this question.
00:22:50.840 | So I would say primarily before we discuss fun ideas,
00:22:55.720 | I would say this.
00:22:56.560 | Parents, you are the first foundation student
00:22:58.720 | in your family.
00:22:59.800 | So you need, and that is a hot take,
00:23:03.200 | but you need commit yourself to mastering
00:23:08.200 | as much as you can.
00:23:09.440 | And I know you may be listening and you may say,
00:23:11.760 | Kelly, that is a pipe dream.
00:23:13.640 | And I am telling you, you can do it.
00:23:16.960 | And lots of foundations parents do this on a yearly basis.
00:23:21.720 | They will actually ask the director for permission to prove.
00:23:24.400 | - That is so fun, I need to see this happening.
00:23:28.640 | - It is, and you know what?
00:23:29.800 | I applaud those parents because not only are they setting
00:23:33.400 | an example for their children,
00:23:35.560 | that they too can do hard things.
00:23:38.360 | - Right.
00:23:39.200 | - But they are also committing that information
00:23:42.640 | to their memories so that those lovely organic conversations
00:23:47.640 | can happen while you're quote unquote in the wild
00:23:51.360 | with your family living life.
00:23:54.040 | And having experiences together.
00:23:56.200 | So parents, I'm telling you, you can do it.
00:24:00.600 | Some fun ways to work on memorizing and mastering
00:24:03.760 | all of this information can be found in your very own home.
00:24:07.560 | So I know a lot of times, you know, we look online
00:24:09.840 | and we think, oh, I have to print all these things,
00:24:12.160 | or I have to make this game with the spinner
00:24:15.000 | and I have to do all this stuff.
00:24:16.400 | Yeah, and so there's some crafty moms that are like,
00:24:19.200 | or non crafty moms that are like,
00:24:21.320 | yeah, I'm not doing anything cute.
00:24:22.920 | What else you got?
00:24:24.080 | - Yes, yes, exactly.
00:24:26.040 | And I love going online and seeing how incredibly creative
00:24:30.560 | our foundation parents are because they found
00:24:33.960 | that that currency works for their particular child
00:24:36.880 | and they just want to share the yummy goodness
00:24:38.840 | that they have created with everyone else.
00:24:41.320 | But I will say this, you don't have to print and laminate
00:24:45.160 | a lot of things in order to be successful
00:24:47.760 | in reviewing memory work at home.
00:24:49.160 | So I will give you a few just inexpensive examples
00:24:53.520 | of things that you already have at home.
00:24:55.880 | So here's one of them, you know,
00:24:57.440 | I've already mentioned the Nerf gun
00:24:58.920 | and families, more than likely, if you have a son,
00:25:02.400 | you have a Nerf gun.
00:25:03.240 | - Yeah, that's true.
00:25:04.080 | - And I know there are a lot of Nerf gun loving girls
00:25:07.200 | out there as well.
00:25:08.200 | - Friends, I have to tell you this,
00:25:09.800 | I have a Nerf gun beside my desk.
00:25:13.000 | And so does my husband because when our girls were home,
00:25:17.480 | we had, one of the things that we did together for fun
00:25:20.360 | was surprise each other.
00:25:21.960 | And so they would come around the corner while I was working
00:25:24.800 | or while I was doing something
00:25:26.640 | and shoot me with the Nerf gun.
00:25:28.120 | And so I now have one on the shelf right beside my desk
00:25:32.480 | and I could just grab it and you would never even know
00:25:35.080 | I was reaching for it.
00:25:36.320 | - I love that, okay.
00:25:39.520 | So Lisa, if you commit yourself to being a memory master,
00:25:42.400 | here's a trick for you.
00:25:43.240 | - I have my gun, okay.
00:25:45.440 | - I love it.
00:25:46.320 | So one of the things that I would do
00:25:48.000 | is I would take a dry erase marker
00:25:50.360 | and I would pull up the blinds
00:25:52.200 | and expose the glass in the window.
00:25:54.360 | And I would draw a circle
00:25:56.280 | and divide it into pie sections with my marker
00:25:59.920 | and write one of the subjects of memory work
00:26:03.240 | in each of the pie slices.
00:26:05.120 | And I would have the boys stand back
00:26:06.800 | and I would be primed and ready
00:26:08.480 | with my foundation's curriculum.
00:26:10.320 | And they would take their Nerf gun
00:26:11.760 | and they would draw aim and shoot it at that circle.
00:26:14.640 | And whatever subject the dart landed in,
00:26:17.520 | I would pull a question or something to review with them
00:26:22.400 | from that subject.
00:26:23.960 | And it was just enough to be fun.
00:26:27.440 | You know, it was something different to do together.
00:26:31.040 | Now we would also utilize those Nerf guns
00:26:33.520 | because I loved having maps
00:26:36.160 | of our foundation's geography memory work on the wall
00:26:39.240 | for my guys and for my daughter.
00:26:42.200 | And so, you know, we would pull those source four files
00:26:46.120 | that are so wonderfully available to our families
00:26:49.080 | and print them up.
00:26:50.280 | And we would also fire the Nerf guns at the map
00:26:53.640 | and they would name for me the location
00:26:56.480 | where the dart landed.
00:26:57.840 | And that was so much fun for them to do.
00:27:01.840 | And you know, you can take just about anything in your home
00:27:05.920 | and make it into a game if you're creative.
00:27:08.840 | Another thing that if you have a deck of cards
00:27:11.800 | and a hat or a pot,
00:27:14.240 | what you can do is have your child stand in front of that
00:27:19.040 | and throw a card at the hat or at the pot.
00:27:22.280 | If the card lands in the hat,
00:27:24.800 | then you ask them a memory work question.
00:27:26.760 | If the card lands on the floor,
00:27:28.880 | then they get a pass until they get one in the hat.
00:27:31.720 | So they're shooting for the hat.
00:27:33.040 | Now don't let them get away
00:27:34.160 | with throwing cards all over the room.
00:27:36.000 | - Yes, I can see that devolving,
00:27:38.800 | but you know, it might be worth it.
00:27:41.200 | - That's right.
00:27:42.040 | You may need to switch your strategy there
00:27:43.480 | based on what your child is able to do.
00:27:45.760 | Doing things like that, rolling dice,
00:27:49.960 | you know, and saying, okay, if you roll a one,
00:27:51.880 | I'm gonna ask you a question from week one.
00:27:54.080 | If you roll a two, week two,
00:27:56.200 | and utilizing those small types of things
00:27:58.920 | that are probably lurking in your home
00:28:01.040 | is a great way to make it fun.
00:28:03.280 | And you know, the thing I love about this
00:28:05.760 | is all these things are already in your home.
00:28:08.840 | Also look for opportunities that are free.
00:28:11.920 | I know it's brisk outside here in North Carolina
00:28:15.480 | where I live right now,
00:28:16.840 | but going on a walk and just reviewing memory work
00:28:20.440 | and saying, okay, at the stop sign,
00:28:22.080 | we're gonna recite our skip counting.
00:28:24.560 | You know, around the corner
00:28:25.640 | when we get to our neighbor's house,
00:28:27.480 | we're gonna recite our history sentence.
00:28:29.520 | Doing that and going on walks keeps you active,
00:28:33.120 | but it also commits the information to memory
00:28:35.760 | because then you can say,
00:28:36.920 | do you remember what we said
00:28:38.320 | when we were in front of the stop sign?
00:28:40.000 | - Kind of like a memory palace, yeah.
00:28:42.160 | - Yeah, exactly, exactly.
00:28:44.360 | And in the winter months,
00:28:45.280 | sometimes we just need to get up and get moving as we can.
00:28:48.920 | Now for listeners who are perhaps living in areas
00:28:51.800 | where there may be snowfall,
00:28:53.440 | that may look a little different for you.
00:28:55.000 | That may look like, you know,
00:28:56.200 | a brisk march throughout the house instead.
00:28:59.000 | - Or up and down the stairs
00:29:00.160 | if you have any steps in your house.
00:29:01.960 | - Exactly, exactly.
00:29:03.720 | And one of the things that I love
00:29:05.840 | is hearing each year tips and tricks
00:29:08.520 | from our National Memory Master families
00:29:10.600 | who participate in the National Memory Master competition.
00:29:14.360 | And one thing that goes without fail,
00:29:17.080 | every year I will have a family
00:29:18.800 | that will talk about the timeline cards
00:29:21.920 | and memorizing the timeline
00:29:23.800 | and how they do that in unique ways.
00:29:26.080 | - I love it.
00:29:26.920 | - So like what you just described before,
00:29:28.160 | you know, putting the cards on the floor
00:29:29.440 | and saying, okay, you've got 30 seconds.
00:29:31.720 | You know, do what you can.
00:29:33.840 | A lot of our families will place the timeline cards
00:29:37.560 | either going up a staircase or down a hallway
00:29:42.320 | and that student will walk down the hall
00:29:44.800 | or go up the stairs and they will tap each card
00:29:48.560 | and recite the timeline event.
00:29:51.040 | And so it gets the child moving, you know,
00:29:53.800 | but they're also remembering the order, the sequence,
00:29:57.760 | which is so important for timeline particularly
00:30:01.040 | for those cards.
00:30:01.880 | So you can do that anywhere.
00:30:02.760 | You can put them around your kitchen.
00:30:04.080 | You can put them in your dining room.
00:30:06.160 | You know, just make sure you,
00:30:07.400 | if you put them in your kitchen and adhere them to the wall
00:30:09.360 | so they don't fall into a pot of spaghetti sauce.
00:30:11.560 | - Yes.
00:30:12.400 | - Or something like that.
00:30:13.240 | - It's not important to a parent, yeah.
00:30:15.280 | - That's right, that's right.
00:30:16.560 | But utilize what you have
00:30:18.640 | and really challenge yourself to think about
00:30:21.440 | the tools that you have in your home
00:30:23.400 | and using them in different ways.
00:30:25.720 | Have your daughter, if she loves baby dolls,
00:30:28.440 | have her be the tutor
00:30:30.520 | and, you know, recite her memory work for her baby dolls.
00:30:33.920 | Or, you know, there are different things like that
00:30:36.560 | that you can do that are fun,
00:30:38.760 | particularly if the parent pretends they're one of the dolls
00:30:41.840 | and they also are reciting the memory work.
00:30:44.120 | - Yes, I can remember reciting memory work
00:30:47.520 | and we would do different voices.
00:30:49.680 | We would do different accents.
00:30:51.240 | Like the British accent.
00:30:52.840 | - I love it.
00:30:54.120 | - You know, we would have,
00:30:55.000 | we would try for a Jamaica accent
00:30:57.640 | or we would try for an Italian accent
00:30:59.680 | or a down in the country accent.
00:31:02.400 | You know, all kinds of stuff.
00:31:03.920 | And it just made, it made it fun, okay?
00:31:07.040 | It gave us something to laugh about.
00:31:10.240 | - Yes.
00:31:11.120 | You know, memory work sometimes, you know,
00:31:13.320 | when people first hear what we do
00:31:15.800 | and they don't understand our why,
00:31:17.800 | they don't understand the goals of memory master.
00:31:21.960 | They can sometimes think that,
00:31:24.320 | oh, how boring, how sad.
00:31:26.960 | They're just sitting in a chair and reciting things
00:31:30.040 | they've memorized.
00:31:31.080 | Oh, and what I'm going to tell you is,
00:31:33.640 | friends, we, that is not how we commit things to memory.
00:31:38.280 | You know, we move our bodies
00:31:40.240 | and we connect the motion of our bodies to our mind.
00:31:43.200 | - Especially kids.
00:31:45.000 | - Yes, exactly.
00:31:46.360 | So take opportunities to let your children move,
00:31:50.040 | to do, think of things in fun, new, creative ways
00:31:54.240 | because then you'll never get tired of it.
00:31:55.880 | You'll always be thinking together
00:31:58.800 | of something fun and new
00:32:00.760 | to do together as a family to have fun.
00:32:03.280 | So this is just some of the ways
00:32:04.800 | that I can think of off the top of my head.
00:32:06.880 | But, you know, I would be curious to see, you know,
00:32:09.400 | if families think of fun, unique ways
00:32:12.680 | that they want to practice the memory work.
00:32:14.840 | I mean, please write our National Memory Master Team.
00:32:19.080 | The email address is nmm@classicalconversations.com
00:32:23.760 | because we would love to hear the way
00:32:25.280 | that you are practicing memory work at home.
00:32:28.040 | - That would be so, that'd be really fun
00:32:30.040 | to have a big across the United States
00:32:33.840 | or even there may be listeners around the world
00:32:36.680 | that want to tell us some of their memorizing tips.
00:32:39.480 | We'll take it from everybody.
00:32:41.280 | I wonder, Kelly, is there any,
00:32:44.920 | and I think I know the answer to this,
00:32:49.080 | but is there any, you know,
00:32:52.120 | is there any guideline about,
00:32:55.400 | well, in order to successfully create,
00:32:58.360 | to complete memory master,
00:33:00.480 | your child needs to memorize this many math facts
00:33:03.360 | and this many geography facts
00:33:05.200 | and this many history sentences every 10 days
00:33:08.640 | in order to get, is there anything strident like that?
00:33:12.360 | Is there a, is there a,
00:33:14.560 | some kind of schedule that people should be following
00:33:18.400 | or do we just do this for the love
00:33:21.000 | of knowledge and fellowship?
00:33:23.920 | - Lisa, this is a tricky question
00:33:27.160 | because there are some people who are going to say,
00:33:29.920 | absolutely, there's a schedule
00:33:31.520 | and you review week one when you get to week seven
00:33:34.440 | and you review week two when you get to week eight.
00:33:37.360 | And you know what?
00:33:38.200 | I would say the best answer I could give
00:33:41.120 | is that as parents, we have a tremendous liberty
00:33:45.080 | to do what works for our children.
00:33:46.280 | - Yay, the liberty answer.
00:33:47.560 | - You know, if working on a schedule,
00:33:51.760 | if you are a busy, busy mama
00:33:53.840 | and that guideline in your head of,
00:33:56.400 | okay, when we get to the second six weeks,
00:33:59.080 | we're gonna learn the new work,
00:34:00.560 | but we're gonna also review from that week
00:34:03.520 | in the first six weeks,
00:34:04.680 | you know, whatever guideline helps you to be consistent
00:34:08.000 | and creative and celebratory, go for it.
00:34:11.280 | - Yes, if you can have a schedule
00:34:13.560 | that doesn't feel constrictive, you know,
00:34:17.160 | and that doesn't, and it helps you to avoid complacency,
00:34:21.600 | then I think that's a great thing.
00:34:22.920 | And if you can have a schedule that you put up
00:34:25.520 | and you follow in a way
00:34:27.800 | that your children are excited about it.
00:34:30.000 | For instance, if you make a giant racetrack
00:34:34.040 | that goes all the way across your kitchen
00:34:36.080 | and your dining area, and you just move,
00:34:39.000 | your children move their race car as they practice material,
00:34:43.280 | that's a schedule, but that's fun to them.
00:34:45.880 | And so I love what you said.
00:34:48.240 | I think that that's the key, the liberty.
00:34:50.560 | You know the nature of your own children
00:34:54.040 | and parents, you know your own nature.
00:34:55.880 | What do you need to keep you helping your children
00:35:00.880 | to stay consistent so that they're not disappointed
00:35:06.640 | that their goal passed without them noticing it
00:35:09.840 | because of inconsistency or lack of plan.
00:35:13.720 | - Absolutely.
00:35:14.560 | - I think that's kind of fun.
00:35:15.400 | - Absolutely, I completely agree.
00:35:18.080 | - Completely agree.
00:35:18.920 | And I would say this, you know, the level of,
00:35:22.200 | I guess the amount of "scheduling" that you need to do
00:35:27.200 | may change as your child progresses through foundations.
00:35:30.040 | - Well true, and it might change
00:35:31.280 | with what your child gets eager to do.
00:35:34.720 | I mean, a five-year-old is gonna have
00:35:36.760 | a different kind of interest in all of this
00:35:39.320 | than a fifth grader.
00:35:41.080 | - Yes, absolutely.
00:35:42.800 | And the wonderful thing is some of our subject matter
00:35:46.320 | is repeated for each cycle.
00:35:49.000 | So once your child masters math facts,
00:35:53.240 | not only skip counting, but the facts themselves,
00:35:55.600 | the multiplication facts,
00:35:57.160 | and they've memorized the timeline,
00:35:59.360 | those are two subjects that repeat from cycle to cycle.
00:36:01.880 | So it will just be a review.
00:36:04.080 | Yeah, exactly.
00:36:04.960 | It will just be a review for them,
00:36:07.320 | whereas they'll be taking in new information
00:36:09.200 | for some of the other subjects for that particular cycle.
00:36:12.520 | So it's a great thing because it teaches them that,
00:36:15.320 | you know, we're always learning new information.
00:36:17.560 | - And we're practicing our old information.
00:36:20.080 | Yeah, I love that, I love that.
00:36:22.680 | Okay, last question here.
00:36:25.160 | I remember when my girls, when we got involved with CC,
00:36:30.160 | and they were, you know,
00:36:31.200 | they were a little older than some kids are.
00:36:32.920 | Like I said, they were second grade and fifth grade.
00:36:34.920 | And when they went for Memory Master the first time,
00:36:38.720 | I can remember having girlfriends who said,
00:36:41.760 | "Oh, we would go somewhere."
00:36:43.920 | And they would say,
00:36:45.120 | "Let your kids show that thing that they do,
00:36:47.280 | "that memorizing thing."
00:36:48.920 | And it was just like they were a circus act or something.
00:36:52.880 | It was sort of like my friend's favorite parlor trick
00:36:56.120 | to trot my kids out and show all these things
00:36:58.480 | that they could memorize.
00:37:00.640 | But Memory Master and Memorize,
00:37:03.880 | even Memory Master or Subject Memory Master
00:37:07.680 | is really more than just a parlor trick.
00:37:10.200 | 'Cause I remember thinking,
00:37:12.960 | I don't really want them to see that,
00:37:15.760 | I don't want them to think that learning is just a trick
00:37:19.360 | or something to be admired.
00:37:20.960 | There needs to be something
00:37:22.680 | that they're getting out of this.
00:37:24.360 | And of course, I realized that they were,
00:37:27.480 | that there were things and they did learn things.
00:37:30.520 | And we've touched on it a little bit,
00:37:32.120 | but Kelly tells what skills are being built
00:37:36.440 | as we pursue Memory Master
00:37:38.480 | and what long-term benefits are our families accruing?
00:37:43.480 | - Oh, that's a fantastic question
00:37:47.320 | because why are we doing this?
00:37:49.280 | We're not doing this because we want our children
00:37:51.440 | to be on a late night talk show doing human tricks.
00:37:54.440 | Although I will say our eldest majored in pre-law
00:37:57.920 | and in one of his government classes,
00:38:00.840 | the professor asked, "Does anyone here know the presidents?"
00:38:05.160 | Well, he raised his hand and recited the presidents
00:38:07.440 | in his college class, so it does not go away.
00:38:10.000 | And the wonderful thing is based on the path
00:38:14.040 | that he's chosen for his life,
00:38:16.040 | he began to attach knowledge
00:38:18.560 | to the administrations of each president.
00:38:21.480 | So it was really helpful for him.
00:38:24.160 | But to answer this question,
00:38:26.640 | what are the skills and what are the long-term benefits?
00:38:29.520 | Our brains are incredible gifts from God.
00:38:35.120 | He's given us the ability to look at the world around us
00:38:38.080 | and to perceive and to commit to a library of the mind,
00:38:42.560 | the things that we experience in this world,
00:38:45.240 | and to be able to see relationships
00:38:47.960 | between all those pieces of information
00:38:50.800 | and make judgments based on what we have perceived
00:38:55.200 | in this world and what we know to be true, capital T,
00:38:58.840 | because he is truth, capital T.
00:39:01.680 | And so I think when I think about Memory Master,
00:39:06.080 | some of the long-term benefits that it brings,
00:39:11.160 | first of all, it provides a fantastic foundation
00:39:14.400 | of learning, a great framework for our students
00:39:18.120 | to move forward in their education with.
00:39:22.080 | And so they're memorizing basic information
00:39:25.120 | about these individual subject areas
00:39:27.840 | that as they, like I said with our son,
00:39:31.120 | as they move forward with their educations
00:39:34.160 | and they begin to read more,
00:39:36.960 | and they begin to discuss more,
00:39:39.120 | and they begin to contemplate,
00:39:40.960 | they're gonna be attaching different pieces of information
00:39:44.440 | to that framework.
00:39:46.640 | And even more so, they're going to be reasoning
00:39:51.240 | and making judgments based on the framework
00:39:55.400 | that they've built, that library of the mind
00:39:58.760 | that they have constructed.
00:40:00.200 | And as parents, what a gift from God
00:40:02.840 | that we are the first librarians,
00:40:06.120 | the first curators of that library of the mind.
00:40:11.120 | And what a wonderful thing to commit to memory,
00:40:14.240 | these foundations facts that will help to provide
00:40:17.840 | that foundational framework for our children
00:40:20.720 | as they move forward.
00:40:22.440 | It's definitely not a parlor trick,
00:40:24.760 | but it is pretty amazing to think
00:40:27.920 | that they're gonna be moving through the reading of novels
00:40:31.280 | with a framework of historical timeline
00:40:34.080 | to know where to place those individual works,
00:40:37.720 | that they're gonna be moving
00:40:39.040 | into deeper mathematical studies,
00:40:41.840 | having mastered multiplication facts and formulas and laws,
00:40:47.360 | that they're going to be writing essays,
00:40:50.720 | having a knowledge of the parts of speech
00:40:53.440 | and definitions of each of those parts of speech
00:40:57.760 | and so on and so on.
00:40:59.400 | There is a wonderful preparation that comes through memory,
00:41:04.400 | because when our children are young,
00:41:06.880 | that is exactly what they delight in.
00:41:09.720 | They delight in the memory and the repetition
00:41:12.480 | and the mastery of these facts
00:41:15.040 | that will eventually become puzzle pieces
00:41:18.080 | that they put together in their minds,
00:41:20.560 | and then present forward to the world
00:41:23.320 | with a goal of knowing God
00:41:25.960 | and being able to make Him known.
00:41:27.320 | And that is our ultimate goal, right?
00:41:29.560 | That they're memorizing these things,
00:41:32.680 | that they are building a framework in their mind
00:41:35.640 | for God's world around them.
00:41:37.680 | So that when they come forth
00:41:39.360 | and they speak about Him in the world,
00:41:42.640 | that there already is such a vast information
00:41:45.160 | of who He is and how they see Him.
00:41:48.240 | Now that is definitely something worth mastering.
00:41:51.520 | - Yes, oh, that's great.
00:41:54.040 | And that is a very heartening message for us as parents.
00:41:58.480 | That gives us the why we should do this.
00:42:01.720 | That's a great, that's a rally cry.
00:42:05.640 | Thank you, Kelly, for that.
00:42:06.960 | And thank you for these good ideas,
00:42:09.600 | these tips, tricks, and ways to have fun
00:42:13.280 | with Memory Master that you have offered us today.
00:42:15.960 | Families, I hope that you have been encouraged.
00:42:19.280 | I would say that this is a fun endeavor for your family
00:42:25.160 | and keep it a fun endeavor for your family.
00:42:30.680 | If it becomes drudgery or tear-inducing,
00:42:34.640 | something's gone awry.
00:42:37.960 | And so keep it a fun family activity.
00:42:42.360 | And if you are interested
00:42:47.600 | in seeing what a Memory Master can become,
00:42:51.960 | Kelly alluded to the National Memory Master Competition.
00:42:56.600 | And in a month or so, we will have another show
00:43:00.720 | specifically about preparing for National Memory Master.
00:43:05.720 | But if you're just curious
00:43:07.120 | and you would like to see the Memory Master Competition,
00:43:11.360 | it is part of the National Commencement Weekend
00:43:16.360 | that is put on by Classical Conversations Foundation.
00:43:22.320 | You can mark your calendar now
00:43:25.280 | for the 2025 National Commencement.
00:43:28.800 | Will be May 16th and 17th of this year
00:43:33.160 | in sunny Southern Pines.
00:43:36.120 | It is a great time for CC families from around the nation
00:43:39.240 | to celebrate together with fellow homeschoolers
00:43:43.720 | who are on this homeschooling journey.
00:43:46.120 | There's a welcome night for grads and their families.
00:43:48.960 | There's a Q&A time.
00:43:50.840 | You can get time with Lee and with Robert,
00:43:54.880 | and you can see the National Memory Master Championship.
00:43:59.000 | So if you are interested
00:44:00.920 | or if you have a student graduating in 2025,
00:44:05.200 | begin now to plan to join us in North Carolina
00:44:09.440 | for that weekend.
00:44:10.800 | Again, those dates are May 16th and 17th of 2025.
00:44:15.800 | Registration is open now.
00:44:18.920 | You can learn more about this
00:44:20.400 | at classicalconversationsfoundation.org.
00:44:25.240 | And we will look forward to seeing your family there,
00:44:28.480 | I hope.
00:44:29.480 | Kelly, again, thank you for sharing your wisdom
00:44:32.960 | and your enthusiasm with us today.
00:44:35.920 | - Absolutely, Lisa.
00:44:38.320 | And if you're listening,
00:44:39.520 | whether your child is a subject star
00:44:42.720 | or a memory master this year,
00:44:44.400 | be consistent, creative,
00:44:46.440 | and celebrate all of the good things
00:44:49.400 | that you and your family are doing together.
00:44:51.520 | And I hope your 2025 is the best year yet in foundations.
00:44:55.480 | - Thank you, Kelly.
00:44:56.600 | Okay, guys, see you next week.
00:44:58.480 | Bye-bye.
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