Everyday Educator - Bonus Time: What to Do When Community Days Are Done
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00:00:03.120 | - Welcome friends to this episode
00:00:05.460 | of the "Everyday Educator" podcast.
00:00:08.160 | I'm your host, Lisa Bailey,
00:00:10.020 | and I'm excited to spend some time with you today
00:00:13.240 | as we encourage one another, learn together,
00:00:16.680 | and ponder the delights and challenges
00:00:19.460 | that make homeschooling the adventure of a lifetime.
00:00:22.880 | Whether you're just considering
00:00:24.980 | this homeschooling possibility
00:00:27.040 | or deep into the daily delight of family learning,
00:00:31.020 | I believe you'll enjoy thinking along with us.
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00:00:40.120 | you'll find even closer support in a local CC community.
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00:00:54.860 | Well, listeners, I know that we are cruising
00:00:59.480 | toward the end of the academic year.
00:01:01.760 | For many of you,
00:01:03.120 | you may be in your last week or two
00:01:06.740 | of Foundations and Essentials.
00:01:09.300 | And I have heard lots of families thinking out loud lately
00:01:14.300 | about what to do when community ends.
00:01:18.940 | I mean, it seems too early to a lot of us
00:01:22.360 | to be done with school.
00:01:25.240 | And for another thing,
00:01:26.580 | what are we gonna do with all that extra time?
00:01:29.020 | We're used to having one full day in community
00:01:32.880 | and lots of activities that we do with our students,
00:01:36.600 | with our children together to get ready for community day.
00:01:40.740 | So now what are we gonna do?
00:01:42.520 | Now listen, I'm specifically talking about
00:01:45.580 | that sliver of time between the end of community
00:01:50.960 | and full out summer break, okay?
00:01:53.280 | I know that we all have lots of things
00:01:56.940 | we're looking forward to doing on summer break.
00:02:00.280 | But if you are thinking,
00:02:03.080 | I don't know if I'm done with school yet,
00:02:06.040 | should I be done with school?
00:02:07.500 | Could I be done with school?
00:02:09.120 | What should school look like with my children
00:02:14.120 | after community days are done?
00:02:18.760 | So we're gonna talk about it today.
00:02:20.200 | And I have one of my favorite friends with me
00:02:22.840 | who never fails to offer wisdom that you can use.
00:02:27.840 | Amy Jones is here with me today.
00:02:30.040 | Amy, I'm so excited to talk to you about this.
00:02:33.200 | - Oh, thank you, Lisa.
00:02:34.640 | This was a great theme to ponder.
00:02:38.880 | It brought back a lot of memories for me.
00:02:41.880 | So yeah, I'm delighted to be here
00:02:43.920 | and rehearse some of those wisdom bits
00:02:49.340 | that God taught me.
00:02:50.840 | - Yes, well, I wondered as I was thinking
00:02:53.960 | about who would like to talk to me about this,
00:02:57.080 | I figured that you and I had similar stories.
00:02:59.760 | And I can remember thinking, we're done?
00:03:04.760 | Are we really done?
00:03:06.600 | And I had some girlfriends who were afraid to be done.
00:03:10.760 | They were afraid to let their kids
00:03:13.640 | look like they were done with school
00:03:15.380 | for fear they would be judged as homeschoolers
00:03:18.800 | for not doing enough.
00:03:21.000 | And listen, listeners, we beat ourselves up all the time
00:03:25.000 | about not doing enough.
00:03:27.880 | What even is that?
00:03:29.920 | If the Lord has called you to homeschool,
00:03:32.840 | He's called you to do all manner of things
00:03:35.600 | with your children and not just academic things.
00:03:38.720 | So stop, let's all make a pact to stop worrying
00:03:42.680 | if we have done enough and ponder some ways
00:03:46.900 | to use this time between the end of community
00:03:51.000 | and full out summer break to draw closer to our families,
00:03:55.800 | to draw our families closer to the Lord
00:03:58.160 | and just enjoy one another.
00:04:00.080 | That's what Amy and I wanna talk about today.
00:04:02.840 | Amy, do you remember how you felt
00:04:05.560 | about the end of the homeschooling year?
00:04:07.960 | Like when community was over, were you glad or sad?
00:04:13.720 | Were you relieved or disappointed?
00:04:17.340 | - Well, a little bit of each one of those, actually.
00:04:21.040 | That transition was always a bit of a bump
00:04:27.420 | and which is so funny.
00:04:31.140 | It was a surprise every year until I realized May
00:04:36.140 | and it was May for us, the month of May.
00:04:40.300 | May is really like a December.
00:04:43.720 | I realized that we have, you develop a family culture
00:04:48.720 | in your homeschooling family
00:04:54.120 | and that culture has its own rhythms
00:04:57.520 | and that may be really different
00:04:59.520 | than your neighbor's rhythms
00:05:03.640 | who have maybe public school kids or private school kids
00:05:06.880 | or just other homeschool families.
00:05:08.880 | They may have a different rhythm
00:05:10.940 | and we found that to develop sort of this idea
00:05:15.180 | of a family culture,
00:05:16.440 | what's that May becomes a celebration
00:05:20.020 | and a remembering month.
00:05:24.100 | - Ah, I love that.
00:05:24.940 | - So we set that.
00:05:26.580 | I just finally, after kicking against the goats for a year,
00:05:31.580 | demanding that we keep schooling until the end of May,
00:05:35.960 | that I just recognized that there are so many things
00:05:39.980 | going on.
00:05:40.820 | Usually there's an end of the year celebration
00:05:43.380 | in your DC community that you wanna be really a part of
00:05:46.860 | and pause to celebrate.
00:05:49.580 | We always had some kind of recital or play
00:05:53.500 | or sports banquet or something at the end of, in May
00:05:58.500 | that was coming up.
00:05:59.380 | Weddings come up, other homeschool graduations come up.
00:06:03.380 | There are all these moments of culmination and celebration.
00:06:08.380 | And I think just anticipating that
00:06:12.560 | as you look at your calendar to recognize,
00:06:17.240 | hey, these are moments that are really special
00:06:21.200 | in our family and I'm gonna set aside time
00:06:24.880 | to allow ourselves to really celebrate
00:06:29.080 | instead of regret.
00:06:31.180 | I just found that frequently I would regret.
00:06:34.080 | Like I'd look at the stack of books we did not get through
00:06:36.900 | or the lessons we did not do.
00:06:38.820 | And I felt bad about that because I felt like
00:06:42.180 | that sometimes set a tone for my own children
00:06:44.780 | that I was somehow disappointed.
00:06:46.420 | And that's not true.
00:06:49.360 | That's a burden that's not theirs.
00:06:52.780 | And I just really, I would just encourage moms to resist
00:06:58.580 | that since I not for myself, I say, even in gratitude,
00:07:03.580 | not recognizing all that God has done.
00:07:07.900 | And like you said, not just academic,
00:07:10.460 | but just seeing, oh, my kindergartner couldn't tie their shoe
00:07:15.020 | and now they can tie their shoe or they can get tall
00:07:18.920 | or they understand how to maybe make their bed.
00:07:23.100 | - Yes, yes.
00:07:24.700 | - Lovely and to recognize that.
00:07:27.280 | And, you know, my favorite verse that I clung to
00:07:31.900 | was in Proverbs 3, 5 verse where it's trust in the Lord,
00:07:36.900 | not me, not my curriculum and with all my heart.
00:07:40.700 | And this is my favorite part.
00:07:42.980 | And lean not on my own understanding.
00:07:46.420 | - Yes.
00:07:47.540 | - Acknowledge Him in all my ways
00:07:51.160 | and that He will make the path straight.
00:07:53.540 | So that was, I tell you that those truths were tried
00:07:58.540 | and true in my own family as I recognized.
00:08:02.340 | He just has a much richer understanding
00:08:06.860 | of my children and my family.
00:08:08.380 | And I can trust that even if my boxes weren't ticked,
00:08:12.940 | that His were, He was accomplishing His purposes
00:08:16.780 | and to really rest in that truth.
00:08:18.900 | - Amy, that is so beautiful.
00:08:20.680 | I hope, listeners, I hope that you,
00:08:23.220 | that your shoulders have relaxed two full inches
00:08:27.580 | as you listened to Amy.
00:08:29.900 | You know, Amy, I have to share this with you.
00:08:33.340 | Something that the Lord brought to me
00:08:37.740 | in the last several weeks,
00:08:39.300 | I was reading a book called
00:08:41.900 | "The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry."
00:08:46.240 | And in the book, the author was considering
00:08:50.540 | the verses in Matthew that talk about Jesus's yoke
00:08:54.380 | and take my yoke upon you,
00:08:58.760 | that my yoke is easy and my burden is light.
00:09:03.140 | And, okay, I have to fully admit this
00:09:08.020 | to everybody within listening distance.
00:09:10.960 | I've been a Christian for a really long time.
00:09:14.500 | I have studied the Word for a really long time.
00:09:17.380 | I know the Lord, I love the Lord.
00:09:19.340 | He speaks to me and I respond.
00:09:21.680 | I never thought about this part of that verse.
00:09:26.780 | I mean, I get that the Lord is not giving me
00:09:31.100 | the burdensome load that I am putting on my back.
00:09:35.360 | But you know what a yoke is?
00:09:38.840 | A yoke is not something that's made for one.
00:09:42.900 | A yoke is made for two.
00:09:45.780 | And what Jesus is saying to me in that verse
00:09:49.820 | is that you are yoked with me.
00:09:54.740 | It's not that I'm giving you a lighter load,
00:09:58.620 | it's that I'm carrying the load with you.
00:10:02.580 | And so your load is light
00:10:05.500 | because I, your God, am carrying it with you.
00:10:10.500 | And I tell you what, when that dawned on me,
00:10:15.580 | I felt like the weight of 100 chains had fallen off of me.
00:10:20.580 | God is calling us to do a great and amazing thing
00:10:28.260 | and we are doing it in His power,
00:10:33.300 | in His strength, and with His leading.
00:10:38.720 | And so get to the end of the year and think,
00:10:42.580 | what has God helped us to do?
00:10:44.720 | Look what the Lord has enabled us to do
00:10:48.660 | and be so glad about that.
00:10:52.940 | I love what you said, Amy.
00:10:54.540 | I love it.
00:10:55.380 | - Yeah, it's such a truth.
00:10:58.060 | And I feel like part of the homeschooling,
00:11:02.220 | and we were talking about this earlier,
00:11:03.820 | the homeschooling process,
00:11:06.020 | frequently we just look, we've been trained
00:11:08.940 | and to look at the outcome, you know,
00:11:12.020 | what did we accomplish?
00:11:13.700 | And that's in very naturalistic terms,
00:11:16.580 | you know, a test score or a check mark on an essay,
00:11:21.580 | that sort of thing.
00:11:23.380 | And I think God is really calling us to something
00:11:26.860 | so much more satisfying.
00:11:29.100 | And that means the process of doing a lesson,
00:11:34.100 | the process of reading a book,
00:11:36.420 | the process of creating a piece of art or poetry
00:11:40.020 | or doing a great, you know, penalty kick in a soccer game,
00:11:43.860 | that all of those things are meant to always draw us
00:11:48.780 | into truth about the character and the goodness of God.
00:11:53.780 | And so, and you've seen this
00:11:56.340 | as you've probably taught your daughters,
00:11:58.940 | if they wanted to learn how to bake a cake,
00:12:01.220 | that frequently it becomes much more
00:12:03.880 | than just getting that cake baked.
00:12:05.780 | It's a conversation, it's encouragement
00:12:08.460 | when things don't go well,
00:12:10.220 | it's helping them and they see your love for them,
00:12:13.900 | they can see how you enjoy the time,
00:12:17.020 | spending the time with them,
00:12:19.260 | maybe how you can gently correct or admonish,
00:12:23.180 | you know, all of those are, that's all wrapped up in that.
00:12:26.900 | And that frequently, I think God uses that kind of process,
00:12:31.900 | that time with us as we're working through something
00:12:37.540 | that's hard and homeschooling is doable,
00:12:40.740 | we never say it's easy, it's doable.
00:12:44.100 | But part of the journey that he has for us
00:12:47.020 | is to learn from him because his burden is light
00:12:51.580 | and his yoke is easy.
00:12:53.740 | And I think that's a check for me
00:12:56.820 | when I am feeling that heavy burden
00:12:59.700 | and feel frantic and irritable
00:13:01.660 | and I'm laying it on other people
00:13:04.500 | and blaming situations or circumstances,
00:13:07.100 | that's a check to go, "Wait, wait a minute."
00:13:09.420 | Because I also love in that verse where he says,
00:13:11.900 | "Come to me who are weary and heavy laden."
00:13:15.260 | He has identified who we are.
00:13:17.220 | He knows that we are better than I do.
00:13:20.180 | And that is such a comfort.
00:13:22.020 | And so it is, you're right, Lisa,
00:13:24.940 | that was a beautiful testimony
00:13:26.660 | because that's where I think we can trust starting.
00:13:30.660 | It's a trust because our world does not allow rest
00:13:36.740 | or a hurried life.
00:13:38.340 | So it's something we're placing in God.
00:13:40.420 | - Yes, I love that.
00:13:42.100 | And listeners, parents, if you find yourself weary
00:13:47.100 | and weary and weary and anxious and anxious,
00:13:50.620 | know that that is not what God has for you.
00:13:54.820 | That's not what he's handing you.
00:13:57.660 | And he doesn't want you to hand that
00:13:59.220 | to your children either.
00:14:01.540 | So stop and take a breath and look instead
00:14:05.980 | for what is God offering me?
00:14:09.620 | What is God showing me?
00:14:11.180 | What can I offer my children and what can I offer them?
00:14:15.300 | I think it probably has a lot more to do
00:14:17.700 | with what Amy was talking about,
00:14:19.820 | reflecting and celebrating and relationship
00:14:24.820 | and process, not outcome and what was finished
00:14:31.220 | and what we excelled in.
00:14:35.220 | So this is an awesome time, in other words,
00:14:39.740 | when community days are done for you all to sit back
00:14:44.740 | and think about what the Lord has done
00:14:47.660 | and take a deep breath and rest.
00:14:50.660 | Now, here is the truth.
00:14:52.420 | It is true that just because our CC community
00:14:56.780 | is over for the year doesn't mean
00:14:59.620 | that our homeschooling is done necessarily for most of us.
00:15:04.500 | Did you usually have some things that you did want
00:15:08.420 | to finish up after foundations and essentials were done
00:15:11.740 | or even with challenge with older students,
00:15:15.060 | were there things at the end that you thought,
00:15:18.860 | well, now we might have time to really do justice to this?
00:15:23.060 | Or to look at it again?
00:15:24.700 | - Yes, oh yes.
00:15:26.820 | There was always something that I recognized
00:15:31.540 | during the weeks of the program,
00:15:34.660 | either foundations, essentials or a challenge
00:15:37.220 | that it would peak my attention.
00:15:39.940 | We need to either revisit this
00:15:43.260 | because we didn't quite get it,
00:15:45.500 | or pique their interest.
00:15:49.260 | Something they've really wanted to talk about
00:15:53.820 | like a history sentence.
00:15:55.660 | I know my boys love building pyramids.
00:15:58.980 | We had Legos and just things that,
00:16:02.740 | just ask the Lord to bring to mind those moments
00:16:06.500 | like science experiments that maybe they just love doing
00:16:10.420 | or art, something they did in community
00:16:13.300 | that you recognized brought some excitement or attention.
00:16:17.900 | And then also we do have,
00:16:21.140 | there are places at the end of the year that you go,
00:16:23.700 | we really need to work on more on spelling.
00:16:25.940 | - Right.
00:16:27.540 | - And so I think balancing both those things,
00:16:30.420 | incorporating, going back through and pulling those,
00:16:34.100 | especially those experiments and art projects
00:16:36.500 | that they really love doing.
00:16:38.100 | That egg drop thing is so cool.
00:16:39.980 | - Oh my gosh, yes.
00:16:42.140 | - And do it at home.
00:16:43.300 | You know, there's nothing wrong with doing something twice
00:16:46.660 | or three times. - Oh my gosh.
00:16:48.900 | - Kids are much, yes, they are much less easily bored
00:16:53.740 | than we think they are.
00:16:55.180 | - Yes.
00:16:56.020 | - You know, I have discovered with my grandson
00:16:58.340 | who's not quite two yet, he delights.
00:17:01.980 | I will sing him a silly little song,
00:17:03.940 | sometimes a song that I made up or read him a book.
00:17:07.340 | And 90% of the time what he does is look at me and say,
00:17:11.620 | "Lolly, again, again."
00:17:15.580 | I mean, they love to do things again.
00:17:18.020 | And the beauty of doing things like the egg drop
00:17:21.340 | is that every time you do it,
00:17:23.580 | you get a little bit of a different result.
00:17:26.380 | And they are amazed and amused
00:17:30.620 | to see how differently things can go.
00:17:33.420 | - Yeah, and it's a great way to incorporate.
00:17:36.980 | You know, we always got a little lonely.
00:17:39.300 | That was the thing that my children miss the most.
00:17:43.700 | - Yep.
00:17:44.540 | - And so we just would gather friends, you know,
00:17:48.300 | and in a very informal settings,
00:17:51.020 | we didn't have to make a big deal.
00:17:52.940 | And we'd do something like,
00:17:54.900 | let's have a, you know, kind of a sinner day
00:17:58.700 | where you just rotated through different things
00:18:00.940 | and hey, make a bridge out of straws
00:18:03.460 | or paint an upside down painting.
00:18:06.380 | And especially if you were with other foundations families,
00:18:11.340 | they knew exactly what you were up to.
00:18:13.940 | - Yeah.
00:18:14.780 | - And it was a lot of fun.
00:18:16.340 | So, yeah, I think just recognizing
00:18:20.060 | and the delights that they had
00:18:23.340 | and allowing them time to explore that more.
00:18:27.820 | And especially as you're challenged students,
00:18:30.340 | sometimes they're just so tired, Lisa,
00:18:32.620 | you know, two bucks
00:18:33.820 | and they don't wanna think about another thing.
00:18:36.900 | But that's when you can hone,
00:18:38.900 | I know their own interest.
00:18:42.540 | We had students, a couple of friends,
00:18:45.700 | they were really into drama.
00:18:47.140 | Now, I am not a drama person.
00:18:48.900 | (laughing)
00:18:50.020 | We were like, okay, you come up with an idea
00:18:53.420 | and we will make this happen for you.
00:18:56.580 | And so she came up with like this workshop day
00:18:59.500 | where everybody, moms, including all the kids were involved
00:19:04.380 | and we helped her find a location, we brought snacks.
00:19:07.340 | We spent the whole day doing these drama exercises.
00:19:11.580 | (laughing)
00:19:13.060 | - Okay.
00:19:13.900 | - You know, it was so fun.
00:19:15.460 | We did "Panamime" and that was hilarious.
00:19:18.420 | And then she just divided us into groups
00:19:21.380 | where we read scripts of different plays
00:19:24.700 | and we performed it in the evening together.
00:19:27.660 | - Oh my goodness, how fun.
00:19:29.500 | - And that was so fun.
00:19:30.820 | It was something that she was passionate about,
00:19:33.260 | not the rest of us.
00:19:34.420 | I have three sons that were rolling their eyes,
00:19:36.620 | but you know, by the end of the day,
00:19:38.740 | they had a great time.
00:19:40.340 | It was great exposure.
00:19:42.060 | It wasn't something that was quote in the transcript,
00:19:45.620 | so to speak, but it combined a lot of things.
00:19:49.700 | We read Shakespeare, we were exposed to other artists
00:19:54.100 | and we are other venues.
00:19:56.300 | So it's just the idea.
00:19:58.380 | And even we've given our older students
00:20:03.180 | some opportunities to make plans.
00:20:05.220 | Like we had a scripture memory, little mini conference.
00:20:09.020 | We were like, all right, girls, get to it.
00:20:10.980 | You tell us what you need, but you're going to put it on.
00:20:13.460 | And so for challenge kids,
00:20:16.260 | just giving them opportunity to gather
00:20:20.820 | and do things that they find really interesting.
00:20:24.100 | If, whether it's, you know, attending something
00:20:27.300 | or coming up with your own idea
00:20:30.740 | and hosting it, doing it.
00:20:33.580 | And I think for moms, instead of me going,
00:20:36.020 | I am so tired, I don't want to do another thing,
00:20:38.860 | to really say, hey, I think communicating,
00:20:41.740 | I am on board with this.
00:20:43.060 | I'm all over it.
00:20:44.140 | You just tell me what you need.
00:20:45.660 | And I think that is, you know, our kids really love us.
00:20:49.700 | They don't want to put more burdens on us either.
00:20:51.620 | But I think having the attitude of,
00:20:53.980 | we can make that happen.
00:20:55.780 | And I think that energy is kind of sends them on their way
00:21:00.780 | and you start drawing people in
00:21:03.820 | that maybe you haven't spent time with before,
00:21:07.540 | but friendship that just butted in that,
00:21:11.860 | or you got to see your mom
00:21:13.060 | do something outrageously ridiculous.
00:21:14.980 | (all laughing)
00:21:16.380 | - Yeah, my girls always loved that,
00:21:18.220 | seeing mom do outrageously ridiculous things.
00:21:20.980 | - Yes.
00:21:21.820 | - But you know what, I was sitting here thinking
00:21:23.940 | as you were talking about that,
00:21:25.900 | those are huge opportunities for our teenagers
00:21:30.740 | to learn life skills of planning and inviting
00:21:35.660 | and hosting and strategizing and advertising
00:21:40.140 | and setting a schedule and managing resources
00:21:44.140 | in a really low key way.
00:21:47.420 | But that is what they're doing.
00:21:49.620 | Those are the skills that they're learning.
00:21:52.500 | And if you said, I want to give you a mini course
00:21:55.460 | on how to be a productive worker or a great manager,
00:21:59.580 | that would sound like a terrible thing to them.
00:22:03.660 | But if you put it in the guise of creating something
00:22:08.660 | that they are eager to participate in,
00:22:12.060 | they're usually all in.
00:22:13.700 | - Yes, yes, yes.
00:22:15.300 | It was some of those were probably the most memorable
00:22:18.700 | because the kids were so invested in it.
00:22:22.620 | And also just reckoning with when things don't go
00:22:26.780 | exactly like the plan.
00:22:28.260 | I mean, that's a really good life.
00:22:30.980 | We had some great-
00:22:31.820 | - Great life lesson.
00:22:33.220 | - Yep, so I think for the challenge students,
00:22:37.580 | listening for some of their passions,
00:22:41.540 | but also are there opportunities
00:22:43.780 | like as you look forward to their next year,
00:22:47.500 | are there ways that you can sort of gently,
00:22:50.580 | like, is there a play, for example?
00:22:52.820 | If you're doing Shakespeare, is there a Shakespeare play?
00:22:56.860 | Usually there is somewhere in the summer.
00:22:59.700 | Attend one, just to kind of give them
00:23:01.780 | a general kind of intro,
00:23:04.140 | or like, especially for government,
00:23:06.340 | one of the things, go to a city council meeting,
00:23:09.420 | go to a board meeting over the summer.
00:23:11.780 | They welcome students generally.
00:23:14.300 | And it's a great way to just gently introduce government,
00:23:19.300 | how government, and you're just providing opportunities
00:23:22.420 | for conversations.
00:23:23.980 | And so I would say, yeah, I'll keep,
00:23:27.460 | you have that list of field trips that you think,
00:23:30.380 | oh, we never got to that, or go do it again.
00:23:33.940 | I mean, you know, go see some other,
00:23:37.620 | go watch like, okay, we're going,
00:23:39.740 | we used to have an, we have an aquarium here.
00:23:42.140 | It's huge, it takes too long to go through in one day.
00:23:45.020 | So we would just say,
00:23:46.340 | we're only gonna go to this exhibit.
00:23:49.140 | - Uh-huh, uh-huh.
00:23:49.980 | - And that's what we're gonna spend an hour,
00:23:52.140 | and we're gonna leave.
00:23:53.060 | We're not gonna get over it.
00:23:53.900 | - Right, you don't get too much of a good thing.
00:23:57.140 | - Yeah, which just ends up being too much, yeah.
00:24:00.460 | Absolutely, I like that.
00:24:03.020 | I liked it that you also earlier talked about,
00:24:06.900 | there really might be work,
00:24:11.780 | work that you found left over
00:24:14.660 | when community ended for the year.
00:24:17.420 | I know there were times, you know, if the family gets sick,
00:24:21.780 | sometimes somebody, everybody in the family will get sick,
00:24:24.820 | but they don't do it all in the same week.
00:24:26.340 | So I had, there were times when it's like,
00:24:28.340 | somebody is sick in the family every week for three weeks.
00:24:31.380 | - Yes.
00:24:32.220 | - You know, you, maybe you miss a whole IEW,
00:24:37.220 | you miss a whole writing section.
00:24:39.820 | Or for the challenge kids, it really,
00:24:42.780 | if you are sick for a week in challenge,
00:24:45.100 | it's like missing a week of college.
00:24:46.940 | You have missed an entire book or an entire paper.
00:24:51.260 | And so you might look back
00:24:54.460 | when you get to the end of community days and think,
00:24:57.700 | "Oh yeah, that's the book we didn't read."
00:25:01.020 | So let me say to you, if you really think,
00:25:05.420 | and I really wanted my student to read that book
00:25:08.900 | because I wanted us to talk about these, those ideas,
00:25:12.420 | or I wanted to shape their moral imagination
00:25:16.580 | by letting them wrestle with this thing
00:25:18.620 | that will probably never happen to them,
00:25:21.380 | but I'd like for them to think about it.
00:25:23.180 | So you could read the book,
00:25:24.780 | you could do it as a read aloud,
00:25:27.260 | or you could go find a movie adaptation of it.
00:25:31.540 | Or like you said, Amy, a play of it.
00:25:34.900 | Just because you missed something
00:25:37.220 | during the community year,
00:25:40.300 | doesn't mean you have to miss it forever.
00:25:42.540 | You can pick it up and do it on your own.
00:25:46.060 | If you missed that science experiment
00:25:48.460 | that they were looking forward to,
00:25:50.860 | you know, how terrible to miss the egg drop
00:25:53.260 | off the building day.
00:25:55.220 | You can always, you don't have to wait
00:25:57.060 | until that cycle comes back to foundations.
00:26:00.140 | Do it yourself.
00:26:00.980 | If you missed one of the art projects,
00:26:03.540 | oh, my children hated to miss the art projects.
00:26:07.060 | So do it at home, or like you said, do it again.
00:26:11.620 | There sometimes is work left over
00:26:14.820 | that you can do or do in a fun or funny way.
00:26:20.740 | And still get some of the benefit from.
00:26:23.700 | - Oh, absolutely.
00:26:24.620 | And sometimes, Lisa,
00:26:26.580 | you probably have some kind of expert in your backyard
00:26:31.580 | that would love to talk about chemistry
00:26:35.980 | or would love, we had two older gentlemen
00:26:39.300 | in our neighborhood that were veterans of the Korean War.
00:26:42.540 | So just to go take some cookies
00:26:46.180 | and use the afternoon of just talking to them,
00:26:49.860 | interviewing, yeah, look around.
00:26:52.620 | Sometimes if you've missed a part,
00:26:54.580 | like a book, maybe a, you know, like "The Scarlet Letter,"
00:26:59.540 | there's usually someone around that,
00:27:02.740 | ask the Lord, someone that will be around
00:27:05.300 | that you can say, "Hey, can we do a day
00:27:08.540 | where we just do kind of an intensive
00:27:10.660 | about this particular book or writing
00:27:13.380 | or this particular history event?"
00:27:15.100 | It doesn't have to be a big deal.
00:27:17.220 | Gather people more than likely.
00:27:19.340 | Again, we can, if you've done it once,
00:27:22.500 | nobody knows everything about the Korean War.
00:27:25.220 | - Right, exactly.
00:27:26.700 | - Gather your friends.
00:27:27.980 | Usually moms are just as desperate as you are.
00:27:30.380 | And have someone come in and talk, you know,
00:27:33.540 | host someone that's an expert
00:27:35.500 | that might show you something about that part of history
00:27:40.100 | that you didn't know.
00:27:41.500 | I found that it's pretty,
00:27:44.300 | people are eager to share what they're passionate about.
00:27:49.060 | - People like telling their own story.
00:27:51.540 | - Yes, yes, yes.
00:27:53.340 | So it's not, or do something,
00:27:56.620 | I know, crazy, like meet at the park.
00:27:59.060 | We had, we didn't get to finish up our dissections.
00:28:04.060 | That was a great story.
00:28:05.780 | - Oh, yeah.
00:28:06.900 | - One of our local, the supervision of the Lord,
00:28:10.980 | a woman that we know well,
00:28:13.340 | she had her degree in biology.
00:28:14.700 | She had a strong creationist background.
00:28:17.420 | And so she was so eager.
00:28:19.180 | I'm like, "If we get the pigs, will you help us?"
00:28:21.660 | And we all gathered around in a pavilion.
00:28:25.460 | I mean, it was kind of an odd place to do dissections.
00:28:27.820 | - Well, you know, you were--
00:28:29.540 | - And it worked.
00:28:30.380 | - Absolutely.
00:28:31.220 | - And I just loved it.
00:28:32.100 | And she was so,
00:28:34.420 | she was so good at explaining things
00:28:37.620 | and just acknowledging the wonder of God.
00:28:39.980 | And that was a complete gift from the Lord.
00:28:43.460 | And so you just, I think we,
00:28:47.340 | I think for me, I just don't anticipate.
00:28:50.860 | I get very tunnel visioned
00:28:55.020 | instead of just recognizing what God has provided
00:29:00.020 | and using those opportunities
00:29:03.340 | to really kind of showcase his design and his creation.
00:29:09.020 | He's eager to show us.
00:29:10.380 | I mean, he does it all the time, every day.
00:29:12.260 | So giving me an imagination that I can go,
00:29:15.820 | "Hey, I need to call so-and-so.
00:29:17.300 | "I bet they can come over and tell us about Japan."
00:29:22.300 | - See, that is so good.
00:29:23.700 | We get so busy thinking that we,
00:29:26.900 | as the homeschooling parent, have to provide all of this.
00:29:29.820 | And frankly, by the end of the year,
00:29:31.460 | you might be tired of producing the circus every week.
00:29:36.420 | And so we just sit back and think,
00:29:38.460 | "Yeah, I should be doing something.
00:29:39.940 | "I don't know what it is I should be doing.
00:29:41.540 | "And I don't have the energy to do it."
00:29:44.020 | So your ideas are awesome, Amy.
00:29:46.580 | Sit and ask the Lord who in my community
00:29:51.020 | would be blessed by having something to do.
00:29:56.020 | A lot of times, like you said,
00:29:58.780 | those people are itching to share their passion
00:30:02.380 | or their story with somebody else.
00:30:05.620 | What is it that you think,
00:30:06.980 | you mentioned one thing that I suspect most of us miss a lot
00:30:11.540 | when community days are over.
00:30:12.900 | What is it that families miss the most
00:30:15.700 | when CC is done until the fall?
00:30:18.980 | - Oh, it's their friends.
00:30:20.580 | - Yes, yes, yes.
00:30:23.460 | - I wish I could say it was literature, but it is not.
00:30:27.580 | - Right, right.
00:30:28.820 | - It's their friends.
00:30:30.060 | - You know, sometimes I discovered
00:30:32.100 | that my girls missed talking about
00:30:36.980 | and wrestling with that with their friends.
00:30:39.580 | They enjoyed being with their friends,
00:30:42.820 | but actually they didn't mind talking about literature
00:30:46.140 | or science or government or art
00:30:49.140 | if they just had somebody to talk to that was like them,
00:30:53.580 | you know, not their mom and dad necessarily.
00:30:55.940 | - Yes, yes.
00:30:56.860 | - Yeah, I do think they miss their friends.
00:30:58.580 | I do think some of our children,
00:31:01.500 | especially our young children,
00:31:04.580 | I do think they miss routine.
00:31:07.740 | - Yes, yes.
00:31:08.580 | - You know, I think routine is really important
00:31:13.460 | for little children.
00:31:15.380 | It's comforting to them
00:31:17.340 | and it gives them a rhythm to their day
00:31:21.540 | and they can kind of know what to expect.
00:31:24.380 | And community day was something they knew what to expect.
00:31:28.020 | You know, when we would be together,
00:31:29.580 | when I'll be with my class,
00:31:31.020 | when we will do our memory work,
00:31:33.500 | when we will do a presentation,
00:31:34.980 | when we will have our snack.
00:31:36.500 | And so just as parents,
00:31:39.100 | if we can be sensitive to what our children are missing
00:31:44.100 | and try not necessarily to replicate it,
00:31:47.820 | but try to provide some of that.
00:31:50.340 | So especially in those first weeks when community is over,
00:31:55.020 | maybe you guys do still get up sort of at the same time
00:32:00.020 | and you do have lunch together
00:32:02.260 | and you do some reading time together
00:32:05.220 | and maybe some activity time together
00:32:08.060 | instead of everybody just doing whatever by themselves.
00:32:12.180 | - Yeah, I didn't find that.
00:32:13.820 | I mean, that worked for like the first hour of spring.
00:32:17.740 | - Yes, yes.
00:32:18.580 | - And then we're all at each other's throats, you know,
00:32:20.940 | because we're bored or tired or lonely or confused.
00:32:23.940 | And yeah, we usually kept kind of a family rhythm,
00:32:29.900 | you know, chores, breakfast, devotions.
00:32:33.780 | And then usually at devotions,
00:32:35.660 | and we do this through the school year,
00:32:38.900 | but we kept it going in the summer.
00:32:40.580 | Like, okay, what's the goal for the day?
00:32:42.740 | What do we want to know?
00:32:44.540 | And it helped.
00:32:45.500 | Some of my children are very scheduling people
00:32:47.980 | and others were not.
00:32:49.100 | It did reassure them that we're not just, you know,
00:32:54.100 | floundering around,
00:32:56.580 | that here are some things
00:32:57.780 | that we're gonna try to do this week
00:32:59.620 | or these friends are coming over
00:33:01.980 | or we've got to go here today, whatever.
00:33:06.140 | I think it just reassures everyone
00:33:08.540 | that it's not up to them
00:33:10.820 | to create their own reality in a sense.
00:33:14.740 | And also recognizing our children
00:33:18.380 | and probably everyone's has probably a volunteer opportunity
00:33:22.380 | they want to be a part of or vacation Bible school
00:33:25.820 | or the summer reading program.
00:33:28.180 | There's usually things that you kind of sign people up for
00:33:32.780 | and just coordinating those things.
00:33:34.460 | Remember, we're gonna go do this.
00:33:36.020 | And I think that helped some of mine to be reassured
00:33:39.740 | that things aren't just pounced on them.
00:33:42.900 | - Yes, yes.
00:33:44.460 | - And that we actually had something to look forward to
00:33:47.300 | and that they, of course, were part of that planning.
00:33:51.380 | You know, it wasn't something enforced.
00:33:54.140 | Usually it was something, hey, I'd like to do this
00:33:57.060 | and this is how we can get this done.
00:33:58.900 | So I do, I'm a rhythm person.
00:34:03.260 | So it helped me.
00:34:05.140 | And especially starting the day again,
00:34:07.260 | I think I was trying to be careful
00:34:10.220 | not to ditch our daily devotions
00:34:13.540 | because it was kind of like,
00:34:16.780 | so we would do something different.
00:34:18.540 | We'd read like a mission story.
00:34:20.340 | You know, we try to change,
00:34:23.420 | even change that up a little bit
00:34:24.940 | where we'd read a biography
00:34:27.140 | and there are plenty of those great biographies
00:34:29.580 | and talk about that.
00:34:30.860 | So just to, just,
00:34:34.180 | and I think that touching base first thing in the morning
00:34:36.300 | as a family is always helpful.
00:34:38.620 | We don't splinter off into the world.
00:34:41.620 | - Right, right.
00:34:42.460 | - Yeah, being a rhythm is a great idea.
00:34:44.580 | - Yeah, yeah.
00:34:46.900 | I think I have a lot.
00:34:49.940 | I, in my years talking to young families,
00:34:54.180 | especially at practicum season,
00:34:56.340 | young families, young moms and dads
00:34:59.220 | who are worrying that they haven't done enough
00:35:03.100 | to quit for the year.
00:35:05.100 | You know, there's just something about our culture now,
00:35:09.180 | Amy, is way more run, run, run
00:35:12.420 | and schedule, schedule, schedule
00:35:14.020 | and plan everything to the nth degree.
00:35:17.700 | And there is,
00:35:20.220 | there's almost a sense of shame
00:35:24.540 | about resting.
00:35:26.860 | And I want to combat that with every ounce of my being.
00:35:30.980 | Moms and dads, listen,
00:35:35.300 | it is okay to rest.
00:35:38.700 | It is okay to use the time
00:35:41.500 | between the end of community
00:35:43.900 | and the beginning of full-on summer
00:35:47.180 | to take a restful break,
00:35:49.700 | to take a deep breath.
00:35:52.660 | You know, I wanted to brainstorm with you, Amy,
00:35:56.660 | some things that say rest without guilt to a mama heart.
00:36:01.660 | I mean, what are some restful yet meaningful activities
00:36:06.340 | for family learning time?
00:36:08.180 | You've shared a bunch already.
00:36:11.460 | You know, reading, keeping the daily devotion time,
00:36:15.060 | but maybe expanding it.
00:36:16.380 | You mentioned reading mission biographies.
00:36:19.500 | Find a devotional book.
00:36:23.020 | I know, and I probably have mentioned it before,
00:36:26.740 | my children loved the book,
00:36:30.300 | Heinz Feet on High Places.
00:36:33.740 | And they would beg for extra chapters of that.
00:36:36.700 | And we read Little Pilgrim's Progress,
00:36:40.540 | a children's version of Pilgrim's Progress.
00:36:44.580 | So we read some things that were fiction,
00:36:48.940 | that were maybe allegories.
00:36:51.060 | We read some things like that
00:36:53.700 | as part of our devotion time as time.
00:36:56.220 | And that was restful.
00:36:58.060 | It had a rhythm.
00:36:59.340 | They knew we were gonna do it every day,
00:37:02.380 | but we didn't have to be sitting up in our chairs to do it.
00:37:06.380 | What are some other restful but meaningful activities
00:37:09.500 | that we can give our listeners?
00:37:11.620 | - Well, I think those are great ideas.
00:37:14.020 | Yeah, Lisa, I think, first of all,
00:37:16.060 | it really reassures me that God says,
00:37:18.860 | be still and know that I'm God.
00:37:21.500 | And I think part of it is setting your mind at rest,
00:37:26.500 | being reassured that God is working.
00:37:31.140 | I'd love that.
00:37:32.300 | I used to think, we'd ask,
00:37:34.900 | I'd ask, "Lord, what do you want me to do?"
00:37:37.380 | And I call it my RPI verse,
00:37:40.940 | rejoice always, pray without ceasing,
00:37:44.620 | and in everything give thanks.
00:37:46.060 | That's the will of God in Christ Jesus.
00:37:47.860 | And that's Thessalonians.
00:37:49.420 | And that just centered me.
00:37:52.140 | Like, okay, so can I do those things?
00:37:54.580 | Yes.
00:37:55.420 | And so as I moved into like an activity
00:38:00.420 | to bring that along with me,
00:38:03.940 | that restful, peaceful spirit,
00:38:07.780 | not the frantic,
00:38:09.140 | we've got to justify our existence through busyness.
00:38:12.740 | And that to know and ask the Lord,
00:38:16.340 | "Okay, Lord, how can you guide us today?"
00:38:18.340 | And I think part of it is, you know, go outside.
00:38:21.900 | Take, be together as a family.
00:38:26.300 | Plan something that you're all together
00:38:30.420 | in one space at one time.
00:38:32.500 | And that's why sometimes just getting away
00:38:35.060 | from the house and chores,
00:38:36.660 | whether it's a walk or a park,
00:38:38.980 | you know, go and just be restful outside,
00:38:43.900 | explore the natural world.
00:38:46.260 | That's very restful.
00:38:47.980 | And taking a hike and taking a pair of binoculars
00:38:51.580 | and your field guide,
00:38:52.540 | and just saying, you know, some lunch,
00:38:55.260 | and just going and saying,
00:38:56.580 | "Today, this is what we're going to do."
00:38:59.020 | I think signaling to your children that rest
00:39:03.620 | and changing rhythm into rest,
00:39:07.020 | a Sabbath, so to speak,
00:39:09.100 | during the day is such a,
00:39:12.860 | that is a lifetime lesson.
00:39:16.660 | I wish I had learned that.
00:39:18.420 | And now, you know, instead of inflicting,
00:39:21.740 | like you said, this burden on ourselves.
00:39:24.180 | So I think modeling that,
00:39:26.060 | but that means you really have to release
00:39:29.020 | your sense of, well, I'm not, you know,
00:39:33.140 | I'm not doing what I'm supposed to do.
00:39:34.820 | Like, really release that and trust God with it.
00:39:38.140 | I do think that those kinds of conversations,
00:39:41.260 | having conversations,
00:39:42.740 | allowing space to have a lengthy conversation
00:39:46.340 | around the table, you know,
00:39:47.620 | have everyone bring their favorite quote to the table.
00:39:50.500 | Like, what did you read this year that you love?
00:39:52.900 | Let's talk about it and really linger there
00:39:55.860 | instead of, oh dear, you know,
00:39:58.300 | end of that time, we've got to go do something.
00:40:00.100 | - Right, right.
00:40:01.220 | - So just allowing for that to happen
00:40:03.540 | and don't be disappointed if it doesn't.
00:40:06.220 | You know, frequently we shoot at things
00:40:09.420 | and we give it a shot and we think,
00:40:10.620 | well, it just didn't work.
00:40:11.740 | Well, sometimes those kinds of things
00:40:13.860 | may take a little while, you know,
00:40:15.580 | for people to feel comfortable and know what to expect.
00:40:18.300 | And I think just having, giving space and time
00:40:22.780 | and communicating that we have the space and time.
00:40:26.500 | I think that's really important.
00:40:28.300 | But you know, there's things that you can add
00:40:31.700 | that are restful.
00:40:32.940 | We had, let's see, moms that we not,
00:40:36.940 | and I didn't, I just coordinated it.
00:40:38.740 | I did not participate in it.
00:40:40.300 | Moms that were really good at cooking things.
00:40:42.740 | - Uh-huh, uh-huh.
00:40:43.940 | - So we did, we went to their house
00:40:45.940 | and they showed us how to make pie crust.
00:40:48.220 | And then another one showed us
00:40:49.700 | how to make their favorite, you know, meringue,
00:40:52.100 | which is so much fun.
00:40:54.300 | But, you know, it was restful.
00:40:57.220 | It was, and it was like,
00:40:59.860 | this is the way we get to know this godly person,
00:41:02.340 | this, we are learning a skill, but we're together,
00:41:06.900 | you know, and I think it's just mainly that,
00:41:11.460 | that for me is trusting that God
00:41:14.660 | just has a much bigger curriculum for us.
00:41:17.860 | - Yes, I love that.
00:41:19.540 | I love that when the year has ended
00:41:22.740 | and we're done with our curriculum,
00:41:26.380 | realizing that God has a much bigger curriculum,
00:41:30.340 | that He wants us to learn about His Word
00:41:33.620 | and about His world.
00:41:35.180 | And that really, it's so exciting to me to think,
00:41:39.220 | oh my gosh, this is a space of time
00:41:41.740 | when we can enjoy and appreciate all of this
00:41:46.540 | in relationship to one another.
00:41:49.820 | And how much we grow when we share experiences
00:41:54.580 | and how much we learn about each other
00:41:56.500 | when we slow down
00:41:59.100 | and do something new or something old together
00:42:05.100 | and talk about it.
00:42:06.580 | Why did you like it?
00:42:07.740 | Why don't, why do you not like it?
00:42:10.420 | Why did yours turn out well?
00:42:12.180 | And why did mine not turn out well?
00:42:14.420 | And why are you feeling sad today?
00:42:16.980 | And why are you so jittery?
00:42:18.540 | Or why are you so happy?
00:42:20.500 | Just making time and space to be together
00:42:25.500 | and to do life together is very refreshing.
00:42:31.460 | And I have to say, Amy,
00:42:33.660 | I just, I have to bring this up
00:42:35.060 | 'cause you and I are together.
00:42:36.500 | I really, really honestly think
00:42:38.780 | that the Scribblers activities are perfect
00:42:42.220 | for this time of year.
00:42:43.780 | Even if you don't have a four to eight year old
00:42:46.900 | or only four to eight year olds,
00:42:49.060 | those Scribblers activities are so much fun
00:42:52.820 | and they open avenues of conversation
00:42:57.420 | in so many directions.
00:42:59.380 | - Yes, yes.
00:43:00.540 | I was gonna say that.
00:43:01.500 | That is just got so much in there.
00:43:04.980 | And the nice thing about it is that it does span.
00:43:08.740 | You know, you can have a challenge student
00:43:11.300 | sitting at your table
00:43:12.460 | and there's a team policy goofy serial debate
00:43:16.300 | that you can have.
00:43:17.540 | Yeah, and that's a great way
00:43:20.620 | to help all of your children be connected too.
00:43:25.020 | That you can go,
00:43:25.860 | "Okay, well, one day you're gonna do team policy."
00:43:28.340 | You know, and it's just a,
00:43:30.860 | yeah, Scribblers was such a,
00:43:33.420 | what a great vision
00:43:34.500 | because it does incorporate your youngest learner
00:43:38.820 | with you as the adult
00:43:40.980 | and then everyone in between.
00:43:42.500 | And yeah, they're kind of really easy to,
00:43:46.700 | restful, I would say.
00:43:48.140 | - Yeah, I think they are restful.
00:43:49.460 | - Restful activities.
00:43:51.060 | - And the cool thing is
00:43:52.340 | because those activities are about building skills
00:43:56.500 | and not producing a certain outcome
00:43:59.380 | or project or artifact.
00:44:01.540 | I mean, sometimes you do,
00:44:03.340 | but there's not a prescribed one.
00:44:05.100 | And so because they're all about building skills,
00:44:07.580 | everybody participates wherever they are.
00:44:10.940 | - If your skill looks different than your brother's skill
00:44:14.020 | and different than your sister's skill
00:44:15.860 | and different than your dad's skill,
00:44:18.340 | we are all still doing the same activity
00:44:21.020 | and getting results that are expanding our own skills.
00:44:25.540 | - Yeah, it's really like a one-room schoolhouse again.
00:44:29.060 | You know, it's everyone around the table and everyone.
00:44:31.860 | And that's what's nice.
00:44:33.180 | You don't have to be the center
00:44:35.180 | of coordinating the information.
00:44:37.460 | - Yes, I love it.
00:44:38.460 | I love it.
00:44:39.300 | - The information can come from your challenge to student.
00:44:42.060 | Like they can finish this and they're like,
00:44:44.060 | "Well, I just wrote a blue book about this."
00:44:46.060 | - I can talk about that.
00:44:47.900 | I love it.
00:44:49.980 | And you know what?
00:44:50.820 | The best thing that you said is that
00:44:52.020 | it's like the one-room schoolhouse again.
00:44:53.980 | So families, community day is over.
00:44:58.540 | Now, everybody in your house
00:45:01.500 | can do the same thing together.
00:45:04.540 | You can have the one-room schoolhouse experience
00:45:08.420 | in these after community is done,
00:45:10.900 | before the summer starts.
00:45:13.420 | You can really learn together
00:45:16.140 | and have conversations together
00:45:18.180 | and everybody can be part of it.
00:45:20.100 | And this might turn out to be
00:45:23.340 | your favorite part of the year.
00:45:24.860 | Who knows?
00:45:25.700 | Amy, thank you so much for sharing your work
00:45:30.260 | and good ideas and experiences.
00:45:32.620 | I appreciate that.
00:45:34.500 | And listeners, I hope that you have been encouraged.
00:45:38.460 | I know you have gotten some good practical ideas from Amy,
00:45:42.420 | but I hope you have been encouraged
00:45:44.300 | and that maybe really and truly,
00:45:46.820 | this will become one of your favorite times of year.
00:45:51.140 | As you have time to rest and reflect
00:45:55.500 | and look around maybe for things to do in the summer
00:46:00.060 | as summer approaches,
00:46:02.180 | I want to remind you that Classical Conversations
00:46:07.180 | is always trying to build relationships
00:46:09.700 | with like-minded organizations.
00:46:12.260 | Organizations that will really help you to homeschool
00:46:15.940 | and further the mission to know God and make Him known.
00:46:19.580 | And a lot of these organizations that we partner with
00:46:23.020 | offer discounts or benefits,
00:46:25.540 | sometimes even scholarships
00:46:27.540 | to Classical Conversations families.
00:46:29.660 | So as you're thinking about things to do this summer
00:46:33.740 | or things for your students to participate in
00:46:36.940 | in the year or years to come,
00:46:39.300 | you might want to check out our relationships page.
00:46:44.300 | You can go to classicalconversations.com/relationships
00:46:50.300 | and find a wealth of organizations
00:46:57.580 | that we are partnering with.
00:46:59.500 | That include educational support services,
00:47:03.180 | advancement services,
00:47:05.780 | extracurricular support and family culture organizations,
00:47:10.580 | Christian colleges and universities,
00:47:13.220 | and even some mission and gap year opportunities.
00:47:17.380 | So that's classicalconversations.com/relationships/.
00:47:22.380 | Check it out.
00:47:27.020 | I think you'll find something that you'll like there.
00:47:30.340 | Listeners again, thank you so much.
00:47:32.500 | And I will look forward to seeing you next week.
00:47:35.540 | Bye-bye.
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