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Today we continue our financial goals that everybody should set series with goal five, 00:00:47.520 |
which is simply this, set a goal to get as much of the highest quality education that 00:01:00.360 |
Set a goal to get as much of the highest quality education that you possibly can as soon as 00:01:06.860 |
I'm going to expand this concept very carefully in today's podcast, explain to you why it 00:01:12.700 |
But a quick review of this series so far, goal one, I encourage you to get a job because 00:01:21.120 |
And as soon as you have income, you start to be able to make important decisions. 00:01:25.140 |
Number two, I encourage you to spend half your income and save half your income. 00:01:29.960 |
The goal being to accumulate investment capital, extra money that you can use for even things 00:01:37.400 |
Goal three, I encourage you to give away 10% of your income, to do it systematically in 00:01:42.060 |
order to strengthen your giving muscles, to increase your own happiness and self-confidence 00:01:46.560 |
in life by recognizing that indeed you are quite well off, and to prepare you to make 00:01:51.800 |
a difference in the world by helping you to hone in on the things that are most important 00:01:56.000 |
to you where you want to make the biggest difference. 00:01:58.960 |
Then goal four was I encourage you to begin a job or a career that has the long-term potential 00:02:09.280 |
Encourage you not just to take some random job, at the beginning, first one was, okay, 00:02:16.000 |
But then I want you to think about where your job might lead. 00:02:19.800 |
If you don't see the potential for your current job or your current career track to take you 00:02:24.960 |
to be a top 20% income earner, then I want you to reconsider that career track and try 00:02:29.940 |
to find a job or a career track where that is a reasonable possibility in the fullness 00:02:36.280 |
Now today, goal five, get as much of the highest quality education that you possibly can as 00:02:40.440 |
soon as you can is probably going to be your pathway to accomplishing goal four. 00:02:46.780 |
Even if it's not directly related, this goal still needs to stand strong. 00:02:52.720 |
There are a couple of reasons that education is the foundational thing that we look at 00:02:59.000 |
in order to think about long-term financial impact. 00:03:02.520 |
The first reason is that education allows you to move into fields that have a much bigger 00:03:13.360 |
Think back to earlier in the series where I talked about the basic value of human labor 00:03:19.280 |
and I talked about how when you're beginning, if you're not highly educated, you don't have 00:03:23.000 |
any particular skills, basically what you're selling is your physical ability. 00:03:31.560 |
All around the world, we don't see this much in the United States anymore, but all around 00:03:34.960 |
the world, I run into people who are quite literally just selling their physical daily 00:03:41.080 |
You'll run across an old man or an old woman that's passing down the street with a broom 00:03:45.240 |
in his hand, picking up garbage, sweeping the streets, things like that. 00:03:49.640 |
These are the most poorly paid jobs in the world and without education, there's not really 00:04:00.360 |
We should honor those who do them because they're doing something that we need done 00:04:05.000 |
and that may be the limit of this person's capability or the limit of this person's ambition. 00:04:12.860 |
There's nothing dishonorable about it because it's honest labor that contributes to the 00:04:16.320 |
good of society, but it's very hard to build a long-term financial plan on that. 00:04:25.400 |
I remember one of the earliest jobs that I had that was similar to this was when I was 00:04:30.480 |
I worked for a friend of mine who was a tile contractor and I worked as a helper on a tile 00:04:37.240 |
And this job is working as a helper laying tile is basically the same thing as is just 00:04:49.720 |
All you're doing is using your physical strength. 00:04:52.780 |
And so I remember day one of that job, I was put to work with a chipping hammer, chipping 00:04:56.320 |
up a floor, lobby of a big condo building that we were retiling. 00:05:00.560 |
And so basically all you need to do is hold the chipping hammer and use it to chip up 00:05:04.640 |
the floor, swing the sledgehammer to chip up the floor and it's basic labor. 00:05:08.820 |
Then from there, you move on to something where you get a little – well, the next 00:05:15.100 |
So I carried many boxes of tile from by the street where the truck dropped them off to 00:05:19.440 |
the job site and positioned them in the bathroom. 00:05:22.100 |
Carried many buckets of thinset and mud depending on whether we're laying tile or marble. 00:05:28.280 |
Carried many buckets of those kinds of things, just basic raw labor. 00:05:37.800 |
But there's no opportunity for it until you start being educated. 00:05:42.160 |
So education begins with something like here's how you mix up a bucket of thinset. 00:05:47.100 |
And if you're a helper, then somebody gives you a lesson. 00:05:53.520 |
Mix it up and carry buckets of thinset or buckets of mud to the tile setter who's actually 00:05:58.320 |
So now you start to have a little bit of skill. 00:06:00.440 |
And skill grows over time and by the end of the summer, I was grouting floors. 00:06:05.520 |
I was doing some polishing work and refinishing work, various things where you start to build 00:06:11.680 |
But in order to build skill, you have to get educated. 00:06:18.040 |
Now my advancement over the course of that summer job was very slow and all of the education 00:06:24.160 |
It was all based upon the instructions, just the daily instructions from the tile mechanic 00:06:33.400 |
And you could advance in that regularly little by little. 00:06:36.800 |
But now I want you to imagine that I actually engaged in some process of education. 00:06:42.480 |
I myself was not smart enough to do this at the time. 00:06:45.260 |
But imagine that I had gone to the library and checked out a couple of books on laying 00:06:51.280 |
Imagine that in today's world, I had gone to YouTube and I had found some various tutorials 00:06:55.960 |
on YouTube and I had started to take some lessons and some classes on different aspects 00:07:02.760 |
And then imagine at some point my boss gave me a chance to do something that was a little 00:07:06.080 |
bit complicated and I did it well because of the education that I had taken, the knowledge 00:07:12.200 |
And as soon as I had an opportunity to practice those skills, I practiced those skills, then 00:07:16.140 |
now I could make much faster progress in my career. 00:07:20.240 |
So this is a very simple example of the importance of education. 00:07:24.240 |
If you will go and become educated in the thing that you're doing and you'll get as 00:07:28.240 |
much of the highest quality education that you possibly can as soon as you can, you will 00:07:37.060 |
Imagine if I weren't simply a middle schooler with a random summer job, but instead I were 00:07:43.260 |
say a young guy who had just graduated from high school. 00:07:46.320 |
And I had actually gone and instead of just signing up as a helper, I had gone and taken 00:07:50.760 |
some classes from some kind of tile setting institute or coursework. 00:07:54.980 |
And I had practiced and I was trained in some way in order to be an effective tile setter. 00:08:00.540 |
Well now I would have gone into the career world and I would have been able to be hired 00:08:04.280 |
as some form of actual tile mechanic rather than just a random helper who had to work 00:08:10.260 |
And that jump in pay from being educated as a craftsman would have made a big difference 00:08:15.960 |
to my financial results as say a 20-year-old, assuming I started at 18, instead of just 00:08:20.820 |
simply starting as a helper and working my way up. 00:08:23.220 |
I would be years ahead of the 18-year-old who just started off as a basic helper if 00:08:30.940 |
Incidentally, I think in the United States, this is something that we don't generally 00:08:33.920 |
do well in training people systematically with coursework for the skilled trades. 00:08:39.180 |
I'm a great admirer of the European system in Switzerland and Germany and other nations 00:08:44.340 |
where being a craftsman or a builder is actually a skilled trade. 00:08:48.880 |
And there are many high quality schools that go through and systematically teach the skills 00:08:54.100 |
to young apprentices so that they can enter into their field at an earlier age with actual 00:09:00.620 |
skills that have been proven in a classroom environment. 00:09:03.340 |
We'd like to see more of that happen in the United States because the informal method 00:09:06.780 |
of instruction where you're just relying on your boss to teach you something and show 00:09:11.140 |
you something suffers from a whole host of problems in terms of an actual method. 00:09:17.360 |
It certainly has worked throughout history, but in order for it to work well, you need 00:09:20.820 |
a very educationally focused master, meaning a leader, the mechanic, the person that you're 00:09:27.540 |
working under, and that person needs to have the skills and the ability to actually train 00:09:33.180 |
And there aren't many, I didn't ever experience that there were all that many people who are 00:09:38.840 |
There were some and when you find those people as a young guy and somebody who's actually 00:09:42.900 |
willing to take the time and explain to you what's happening, it's incredibly rewarding. 00:09:46.940 |
But having to pick everything up the hard way doesn't really, really work. 00:09:50.880 |
So I use this as a practical example just to say that if you get as much of the highest 00:09:55.460 |
quality education that you possibly can as soon as you can, you will be able to make 00:10:05.140 |
Because of your higher levels of education, you'll probably make faster progress and be 00:10:09.700 |
more productive than many other people, which allows your financial income to grow faster. 00:10:15.340 |
And all of this, especially if you're saving half your income, all of this will compound 00:10:23.160 |
Getting more education also puts you into a different direction in terms of potential 00:10:29.920 |
The person who has the most education is usually going to be being steered relatively automatically 00:10:39.120 |
towards the highest income careers because of the cost of getting that education. 00:10:44.580 |
As we think about various professions and you go down just industry level professions 00:10:49.860 |
and you rank them based upon their current earnings, the standard earnings for that profession, 00:10:56.620 |
they rank pretty neatly in terms of the actual amount of education needed as compared to 00:11:04.340 |
the average income of the participants in that career field. 00:11:09.620 |
The more education required or the more schooling required in order to function in this career, 00:11:20.500 |
And if you look at the total lifetime earnings of various careers, you can see that the payoff 00:11:31.180 |
Education puts you on the fast track in everything. 00:11:35.260 |
And the most highly educated person in a job or in a career or in a career area is going 00:11:43.900 |
to have the basic tools and equipment to go the fastest towards the long-term goal, towards 00:11:51.980 |
Now you notice about 40 seconds ago I stuck in a word that I hadn't used until the about 00:11:59.020 |
I inserted the word schooling alongside the word education. 00:12:04.900 |
I want you to note that the word education has a different connotation for you than the 00:12:12.540 |
You should not necessarily conflate education with schooling. 00:12:19.260 |
School is normally an extremely valuable source of education, but it is certainly not the 00:12:26.380 |
only source of education, and it is not the only source of education that matters. 00:12:35.300 |
When I refer to education, I am referring to learning, to your gaining knowledge, to 00:12:41.940 |
your building skills, to your enhancing your abilities through active, focused learning. 00:12:49.740 |
Generally speaking, I like the idea that education is something that you must get for yourself. 00:12:55.940 |
It's something that you must do for yourself, that education basically should be thought 00:13:07.860 |
That's not necessarily the same thing for school. 00:13:10.700 |
You can go through school and you can be poorly educated because you chose not to learn anything. 00:13:17.540 |
Alternatively, you can go through school and you can become highly educated because you 00:13:22.940 |
were determined to educate yourself through school. 00:13:27.020 |
Schooling can be forced, education can't be forced. 00:13:30.620 |
So in the context of this podcast, I'm referring to education from any source, but that doesn't 00:13:37.900 |
indicate that you should be opposed to schooling. 00:13:42.140 |
On the contrary, the standard option that you should choose is as much schooling as 00:13:51.500 |
Let me restate the basic thesis of this show and let's see if this holds true. 00:13:56.900 |
Your goal should be to get as much of the highest quality schooling as you possibly 00:14:06.860 |
I don't think it's as true as it is when I stated it in the term of education, but I 00:14:11.900 |
think it is generally true because schooling is mostly the most direct pathway to education. 00:14:20.620 |
It allows you to learn very efficiently because for most fields, most jobs, the person who 00:14:30.820 |
teaches you your school classes is a person who has been carefully focused on how to teach 00:14:41.500 |
The difficulty here comes from the fact that the one type of schooling that we all have 00:14:47.260 |
some experience in to some degree or some knowledge of is usually government K-12 compulsory 00:14:55.900 |
That statement that I said probably doesn't hold true for all of our schooling experiences. 00:15:01.340 |
Most of us have had some really great teachers who put enormous amounts of thought into helping 00:15:06.500 |
their students to learn as much as possible, inspired learning. 00:15:10.020 |
Most of us have also had some pretty subpar teachers who really didn't accomplish those 00:15:13.940 |
goals and that's probably inevitable in that kind of schooling. 00:15:17.500 |
Once you get out of K-12 though, depending on the school that you go to, things can change 00:15:23.660 |
I remember one school experience that I had was when I went through my insurance school, 00:15:29.700 |
when I first got a life health and annuity insurance license in the state of Florida. 00:15:35.100 |
It's a 40-hour school requirement in order to get your basic license and the teacher 00:15:41.980 |
who taught that class was a wizard at teaching. 00:15:48.980 |
He had had a long career as a life insurance agent. 00:15:51.300 |
He'd retired from that and he'd taught this class for years. 00:15:54.700 |
His entire 40-hour class was perfectly scripted to hit every time mark. 00:16:02.260 |
He had carefully crafted his message to teach important lessons from the industry, to teach 00:16:10.020 |
important tools and sets of knowledge as well as to pass the exam. 00:16:15.260 |
And when I finished his school, his 40 hours worth of class, his 40-hour school, I felt 00:16:20.060 |
like it was one of the most productive experiences of my life. 00:16:23.340 |
I came away from that school basically saying, "Every adult should take a 40-hour life health 00:16:32.180 |
And it was vastly more efficient for me to go through his class than for me to go out 00:16:36.860 |
and try to put together a big stack of books. 00:16:39.340 |
I've routinely found this to be a differentiator. 00:16:41.820 |
If you talk to just simply an average life insurance agent versus an average personal 00:16:47.220 |
finance enthusiast, I think that the average life insurance agent, by virtue of having 00:16:53.220 |
gone through the basics of an insurance school, has a better broad-based understanding of 00:17:01.620 |
the world of financial products and rules and laws and things like that than does the 00:17:09.580 |
That's not to say that the finance enthusiast may not also have areas of strong specialization. 00:17:15.740 |
But usually what happens when you're purely self-educated is that you tend to gravitate, 00:17:21.380 |
you tend to orient your education towards the things that interest you the most, and 00:17:25.860 |
you tend to neglect the things that don't interest you, which means that you often have 00:17:30.580 |
holes in your knowledge base that you wouldn't have if you went through some form of mandatory 00:17:39.140 |
And having exposure to that allows you to ask better questions. 00:17:44.140 |
And so the ideal thing is to bring these two things together, is to have the exposure to 00:17:52.700 |
what is taught in a school of some kind, where you're basically forced to learn everything, 00:17:58.380 |
and then supplement that with your own real focus on the things that interest you the 00:18:03.700 |
Similarly, and just you staying in the life insurance space, I went through various schools 00:18:07.860 |
for preparing for a certified financial planner exam. 00:18:10.980 |
I went through schools for preparing to take all the various securities exams for securities 00:18:17.140 |
And time and again, I found those schools to be enormously productive experiences, to 00:18:23.940 |
And every time I went through one, I came away really impressed with the experience. 00:18:28.900 |
Every industry and every career has some version of these schools. 00:18:33.140 |
And because when you sit down to teach a class, you generally automatically make a comprehensive 00:18:38.940 |
– the person who does it usually knows the field very well and sits down to try to say, 00:18:44.100 |
"I need to make this class serve everybody with all of the mandatory minimum levels of 00:18:50.940 |
And the experience you have going through schools is very productive. 00:18:56.060 |
Even though in today's world, we love to dump on the value of a college education, 00:19:02.420 |
I think it still holds even for a standard high school model. 00:19:06.100 |
As my children are headed towards high school, I've been spending a lot of time looking 00:19:09.620 |
at my state's various requirements of what they need to know, what they need to study. 00:19:15.100 |
And at its core, when you look at it, you say, "This is a pretty good base level of 00:19:19.820 |
knowledge that most people would be well-served if they knew this." 00:19:25.040 |
If you have a college degree in a certain subject, the degree-granting institution is 00:19:29.180 |
going to make sure that you have gone through and learned all the different fields that 00:19:35.420 |
And that is one of the reasons why this traditional school model that we all live in still has 00:19:43.060 |
And so I think it is fair to say that you should get as much of the highest quality 00:19:47.500 |
schooling as you possibly can as soon as you can. 00:19:53.820 |
Very specifically, let's note this back to the normal trend of decisions that especially 00:20:07.260 |
You need a credential of some kind to indicate finishing. 00:20:10.700 |
High school is one of those funny things where we know that it's significantly important, 00:20:15.060 |
but it's hard to defend all of the applications of its importance. 00:20:20.940 |
When you go on from high school, the high school credential basically becomes irrelevant. 00:20:26.160 |
I don't think I have ever shown anybody my high school diploma. 00:20:30.820 |
I obviously must have submitted it to the college that I attended initially, but since 00:20:36.400 |
then I've never seen or gotten a high school transcript or showed my high school diploma 00:20:44.460 |
And I think that there are many people who don't have any form of high school diploma 00:20:47.780 |
that can generally go through life pretty well. 00:20:50.980 |
But what happens is if you don't have some form of completion certificate for high school, 00:20:57.860 |
you reach a certain point where you want to take a certain job and they say, "High school 00:21:01.100 |
diploma required," and all of a sudden you can't do it. 00:21:03.980 |
And yet, if you just focus on it, it's not that hard to finish it when you are younger. 00:21:09.780 |
You've always known just how smart she is, from her early aptitude for science to her 00:21:18.700 |
And now that graduation is right around the corner, she can continue to excel. 00:21:23.220 |
America's Navy offers her the chance to get hands-on training and experience for the career 00:21:28.660 |
From chemistry to computer science, aviation mechanics, or ship propulsion, it's the smart 00:21:39.540 |
I can't think, other than significant disability of some kind, in which case you could still 00:21:45.060 |
get a diploma of some kind, I can't think of a scenario in which I don't think a teenager 00:21:51.020 |
should finish a course of study for high school. 00:21:54.020 |
The course of study doesn't have to be huge and comprehensive, it doesn't have to be nothing 00:22:03.140 |
For the non-Americans, that's basically a, I think it's grade equivalent diploma, I don't 00:22:07.660 |
remember what it stands for, but it's basically a quiz or a test for certifying that you have 00:22:13.620 |
learned what is expected for an average high school student. 00:22:21.420 |
And so if I'm working with a student, and let's say that I'm coaching a 14-year-old 00:22:25.120 |
who says, "I think high school is going to be an enormous waste of time," well, my answer 00:22:28.540 |
is, "Okay, let's do your GED, pass your GED, and be done with it." 00:22:32.720 |
But you need to have something that indicates your academic ability, unless you have some 00:22:37.020 |
significant level of disability that needs to be dealt with. 00:22:42.220 |
So you should finish high school, and we know that, in general, the average person is going 00:22:50.600 |
to earn significantly more with a high school degree than without a high school degree. 00:22:55.560 |
We're always tempted, and I especially have this temptation, we're always tempted to go 00:22:59.660 |
to the extreme example, the brilliantly smart person who became a multi-gazillionaire without 00:23:05.020 |
ever finishing high school, and say, "Well, this proves the rule." 00:23:09.320 |
I'm sorry, "This proves that the advice of finishing high school is not good." 00:23:17.600 |
In order to succeed without a high school degree, you've got to be super, super brilliant 00:23:21.640 |
and super, super competitive and have all kinds of other benefits, whereas if you just 00:23:25.540 |
finish high school, you can be perfectly normal and average and do well in life. 00:23:35.520 |
My answer is, for most people, most probably. 00:23:38.180 |
If you're asking the question, then you probably should go. 00:23:41.200 |
And I think that you're generally not going to regret having a college degree in the fullness 00:23:49.000 |
Even though I have regrets about how I went about it, I do not regret not—excuse me, 00:23:55.640 |
I'm all twisted up—I don't regret going to college. 00:24:03.260 |
But if you're the kind of person who's asking the question of, "Should I go to college?" 00:24:11.160 |
Now that we've arrived at basically undergraduate degree, let's talk for a minute about why 00:24:15.560 |
I think this is pretty obviously sound advice. 00:24:20.760 |
There are options available that will fit almost any kind of person, with almost any 00:24:25.560 |
kind of interest, of almost any kind of budget. 00:24:29.020 |
If the only option was, "Should I go to college at this very difficult school to get into 00:24:36.880 |
I couldn't be so casual in saying that everybody should go to college. 00:24:42.280 |
But since there are many options, including very low-cost options, including much less 00:24:48.720 |
difficult options, including degrees that emphasize all kinds of different skills, some 00:24:53.840 |
of them emphasizing liberal arts skills, some of them emphasizing practical skills, with 00:24:58.660 |
all kinds of degrees, there is something that you can find that will fit your basic skill 00:25:06.080 |
And once again, if you have a college degree, you will find that life is a lot easier for 00:25:14.720 |
You'll find access to more jobs, more careers than you otherwise would find, and there are 00:25:18.640 |
plenty of more options available to you, which in the fullness of time will lead to your 00:25:23.360 |
earning more money and make it more straightforward for you to get that top 20% income, job or 00:25:31.320 |
business or career that you want to look for. 00:25:34.720 |
If I'm coaching somebody who has a college degree, I can with confidence put them on 00:25:39.680 |
track to that top 20% job, top 20% of income level job. 00:25:47.140 |
If I'm coaching somebody who doesn't have a college degree, I don't have the same level 00:25:52.920 |
I believe it's still possible, but I don't have the same level of confidence. 00:25:59.280 |
You should get as much of the highest quality education that you possibly can. 00:26:04.200 |
Now let's take that apart here for a moment and talk about highest quality. 00:26:10.920 |
Highest quality is a subjective term, but a meaningful one. 00:26:15.520 |
There are many careers that don't need any kind of four-year bachelor's degree. 00:26:23.160 |
For example, let's say that you wanted to go and work as a paramedic. 00:26:26.480 |
Well, you don't necessarily need a four-year bachelor's degree to do that, but you do need 00:26:33.720 |
And so you should go and get as much of the highest quality paramedic schooling and training 00:26:45.840 |
The highest quality education is usually going to be some of the more expensive options. 00:26:52.160 |
The free market tends to shake out demand based upon pricing. 00:27:00.580 |
So if you go out and you're looking at different schools, let's say you want to become a 00:27:03.640 |
pilot and you've never flown anything, if you go out and you're looking at the cost 00:27:07.320 |
for different flight schools, the highest quality flight schools are probably going 00:27:13.000 |
to be those that are in the top quartile of cost. 00:27:17.920 |
Maybe not the most expensive, and maybe there's one out of let's say the top 10 best flight 00:27:23.320 |
schools that really is not all that great and they're just trying to puff up their cost 00:27:30.400 |
But in general, what things cost pretty much relates to the basic value of them. 00:27:35.680 |
Those of us who sell services or products, we try to make a reasonable and informed decision 00:27:42.400 |
of the costs to charge for things based upon their value. 00:27:49.080 |
And there are usually a whole host of benefits associated with the higher cost options that 00:27:56.840 |
might not be visible to you till the backside. 00:28:00.180 |
So for example, people who go to a prestigious school in a particular field probably have 00:28:07.680 |
an easier time getting hired and getting a job afterwards. 00:28:11.100 |
It's not that the other guy can't get hired, that he can't get a job, it's just that he 00:28:15.400 |
probably has a harder time if he doesn't go to a prestigious school. 00:28:20.760 |
All of the other benefits, the kinds of people that you're involved with, these basically 00:28:28.880 |
So in general, you should get the highest quality schooling and education that you can 00:28:33.080 |
afford based upon the amount of money that you have saved. 00:28:36.160 |
And this is why I encourage you to restrict your spending to, say, 50% of your income, 00:28:41.440 |
to free up money for yourself so that you can get onto the fast track. 00:28:45.160 |
You should focus on getting the schooling and it's better to go to a bad school that 00:28:50.220 |
you can afford than an expensive school that you don't have the money for, sure. 00:28:54.480 |
But by being conservative with your spending, that should free up the money for you to go 00:28:58.800 |
to the highest quality institution that you can find that's going to serve the particular 00:29:02.740 |
career that you are targeting or that you are interested in. 00:29:07.560 |
So the general default answer for questions like, "Should I go to college?" or "Should 00:29:13.520 |
I go to the school or just start in the business?" 00:29:15.800 |
Generally speaking, the answer from a financial perspective is, yes, you should go. 00:29:20.460 |
If you're capable of going, if you're capable of getting in, and if you're capable of finishing, 00:29:26.280 |
I acknowledge that many people are not capable of going. 00:29:28.920 |
They're not capable of getting in and not capable of finishing. 00:29:31.560 |
And so I'm intentionally trying to be very subjective here. 00:29:35.760 |
Notice I said you should get as much education, get as much of the highest quality education 00:29:45.840 |
Your skills and your abilities will be different than mine and different from every other person. 00:29:49.840 |
But you should get as much of the highest quality education that you possibly can as 00:29:57.900 |
You should go to the best college that you have access to and that fits your overall 00:30:05.000 |
You're not going to be a failure if you don't go to an Ivy League university. 00:30:09.580 |
But if you do go to an Ivy League university, you probably aren't going to regret the credentials 00:30:15.280 |
that you are granted at the end of your time there. 00:30:19.840 |
And so if you want something other than what an Ivy League university can offer you, pursue 00:30:26.120 |
But the Ivy League university pathway still offers enormous benefits. 00:30:31.120 |
So if you can work it out, you should go to the best quality school that you can. 00:30:36.320 |
Now long-time listeners of Radical Personal Finance would probably be expecting me to 00:30:41.120 |
start inserting more caveats and more disclaimers and more justification and things like that 00:30:50.720 |
My general inclination is to go into things like, well, you should calculate the value 00:30:56.200 |
of the cost of the degree and how much money you have and all of that stuff. 00:31:00.800 |
But I've decided not to put that in here and it's for one basic reason. 00:31:06.320 |
I've realized that it's enormously valuable to simply set the goal and then let people 00:31:18.720 |
And I didn't say that everybody should go to an Ivy League university as my goal. 00:31:24.200 |
I did say get as much of the highest quality education that you possibly can as soon as 00:31:30.200 |
And my reason for doing that is simply that you will establish the actual meaning of that 00:31:40.680 |
And whatever you consider to be the highest level of education, I'm using Ivy League 00:31:45.000 |
university as a kind of a stand-in for something that has a lot of cultural panache and cachet. 00:31:52.040 |
But if you set the goal of going to an Ivy League university, you're probably capable 00:32:00.240 |
of going there and you're probably also perfectly capable of going there and paying for it, 00:32:05.520 |
having it paid for without ever borrowing money, without ever doing anything. 00:32:09.040 |
And you're probably also perfectly capable of going there and choosing a degree that 00:32:13.160 |
that Ivy League university is really valuable in rather than a degree that it's not valuable 00:32:19.760 |
And you're probably perfectly capable of going there and maintaining your soul in the process 00:32:23.640 |
and really being a valuable part of your life. 00:32:28.480 |
So sometimes I've realized that I spend so much time caveating everything that it can 00:32:34.980 |
discourage somebody who's capable of going there. 00:32:38.120 |
This leads me conveniently enough to the next thing that I want to move to, which is partly 00:32:46.800 |
So I talked about should you finish high school, go to college, go to a fancy college. 00:32:51.480 |
Question now is should you go to things like graduate school? 00:32:58.120 |
You should get as much of the highest quality education that you possibly can as soon as 00:33:04.640 |
And that includes, if you're in the standard academic world, graduate school, master's 00:33:12.720 |
If that includes some other field that you're in, it means advanced specialty schools, advanced 00:33:16.680 |
training institutes, whatever is appropriate to your career and interest. 00:33:21.360 |
You should go as far as you can as fast as you can. 00:33:29.360 |
The reason is you don't have to do one or the other. 00:33:34.080 |
When I think back on all of the arguments that people made to me, I was discouraged 00:33:39.520 |
I can't remember who, but generally I was discouraged from going and getting a master's 00:33:45.720 |
I heard things from people who said things like, for example, that, "You know what? 00:33:50.880 |
If you're going to go to get a master's degree, you should probably have a few years of work 00:34:00.480 |
I'm not denying that work experience can be useful, but the goal still should be get as 00:34:05.520 |
much work experience as is useful and then go and get the graduate degree. 00:34:09.960 |
Similarly, I am a proponent of things like gap years for graduating high school students. 00:34:16.140 |
All of the research that I have seen on the concept of a gap year indicates that a gap 00:34:21.000 |
year is a really good and healthy thing for young people to have, that for the college-bound, 00:34:26.480 |
for those who go to college after the gap year, they outperform the non-gap year students 00:34:37.240 |
I don't know how many students go on gap year who choose not to go to college, nor do I 00:34:43.320 |
particularly worry about it, because if that's what they learned by going to gap year, they 00:34:47.040 |
probably found that that was a better choice for them. 00:34:49.840 |
Inserting a little bit of time, a year or so, to think about something else, pursue 00:34:56.480 |
What happens is that when you go as far as you can, as fast as you can, you are probably 00:35:06.120 |
What I've discovered whenever I have made my life easier is that usually I just started 00:35:15.000 |
One of the biggest financial mistakes I made when I was younger, as an example, I was a 00:35:18.680 |
young financial advisor and everyone says, "You need to hire staff. 00:35:22.640 |
You need to hire someone to work with you, work for you so that you do less administrative 00:35:26.280 |
work so that you can earn a higher hourly rate." 00:35:32.480 |
Problem is, I didn't go and do more of the high return work. 00:35:37.280 |
On the contrary, I just went and spent more time hanging out and doing nothing. 00:35:41.320 |
And so the staff didn't wind up increasing my productivity, it wound up decreasing it. 00:35:47.720 |
No, it absolutely did not have to be that way. 00:35:52.040 |
I paid for it dearly and I regret it to this day. 00:35:59.160 |
So let's say that you're young and you're thinking about, "Should I go to graduate school 00:36:04.780 |
Well, if you don't go to graduate school, there's a good chance that you're not going 00:36:08.880 |
to fill in all of that extra time with this rigorous self-education program. 00:36:17.020 |
And if you will, then you're satisfying what I've done. 00:36:19.560 |
Maybe you'll be the guy who does the DIY master's degree in computer science and takes all the 00:36:24.400 |
MIT courses and publicly blogs your way through them and posts all your projects on the internet. 00:36:29.280 |
That'd be amazing if you did it and I'd be a big supporter of you. 00:36:32.840 |
But there's a good chance you're probably not going to do it. 00:36:35.800 |
So there's a good chance that going and signing up for the master's degree in computer science 00:36:42.880 |
Because what will happen is, instead of you just sitting around and playing video games 00:36:46.080 |
all day, "Well, now I've signed up and I've got to go ahead and finish this thing." 00:36:50.320 |
And then you probably might as well go ahead and sign up for the PhD program or the advanced 00:36:54.440 |
certification program or whatever it is for your industry because you're just going to 00:36:58.360 |
be trading out consumption time for achievement time. 00:37:02.400 |
And if you've maxed out all of those things, and let's say you're 30 years old and you've 00:37:07.760 |
gotten all that done, I don't think you're ever going to regret that. 00:37:13.640 |
There are clearly some people, I guess, who do, but in general, going as far as you can, 00:37:18.080 |
as fast as you can, as early as you can in the fullness of time makes a lot of sense. 00:37:24.800 |
Just from my own personal experience, I have something like, I don't know, seven or eight 00:37:28.240 |
different financial certifications and designations, certified financial planner and charter life 00:37:33.760 |
underwriter and a bunch of other stuff like that. 00:37:36.060 |
At the time, I thought I was working really hard to do that stuff. 00:37:40.040 |
There would be times many mornings I would get up and I was newly married, I would get 00:37:44.280 |
up and I'd go to leave my wife at home in bed and I'd get up and go to Denny's at four 00:37:48.960 |
o'clock in the morning and study for a couple of hours in the morning. 00:37:52.240 |
That was what I found out worked for me and then go home, have breakfast and then go to 00:38:03.640 |
And all I did was just swap out some wasted time for doing more academics. 00:38:17.440 |
And I could have done it, I just never set the goal, no one ever really encouraged me 00:38:22.520 |
So don't worry, I'm not complaining or whining, I can still go and do it. 00:38:26.120 |
But it is more difficult to do at certain points in time. 00:38:30.400 |
And in hindsight, if I had gone ahead and just signed up for it, there would have been 00:38:36.200 |
I would have had to work at it, but it would put me in a very different place today that 00:38:43.120 |
When I first started radical personal finance, actually, I had just finished my master's 00:38:47.520 |
degree in financial planning at the American College. 00:38:51.640 |
And one of the professors there, when I was there doing my capstone work, pulled me aside 00:38:56.640 |
And because I didn't have this automatic idea that I'm now trying to convey to you of get 00:39:02.320 |
as much of the highest quality education as you possibly can as soon as you can, I just 00:39:06.200 |
said, "No, no, I'm going to go work on my business. 00:39:09.280 |
After all, I'm starting this new business, I'm going to go work on my business." 00:39:14.080 |
I have the capacity where I could have done both and I don't think I would have been any 00:39:18.560 |
less effective at either one of them by doing both. 00:39:26.520 |
We're not God, we don't have middle knowledge. 00:39:32.440 |
And so for basically all people, you should get as much of the highest quality education 00:39:43.640 |
And if at some point in time you realize, "You know what? 00:39:45.840 |
I've gone farther than I should," you can stop. 00:39:49.920 |
If you start a PhD program and you decide, "No, this is really hurting me," you can stop. 00:39:54.640 |
You can stop for a year or two and then come back or you can just stop. 00:39:57.460 |
And you'll know that that was where I should have stopped. 00:40:00.160 |
Let's say you are a pilot and you get your private pilot's license and you think, "Well, 00:40:10.440 |
And if you get multi-engine and you get into it and you decide, "I don't want this," then 00:40:15.840 |
And then you say, "Should I go to commercial?" 00:40:21.840 |
Because what will happen is as you press down that path as quickly as possible, generally 00:40:26.120 |
speaking the money that you're spending on the schooling is probably money that you would 00:40:33.360 |
The time that you're spending on the schooling is probably time that you would have just 00:40:38.760 |
And you're probably not going to regret getting as much of that as you can, as much as you 00:40:45.360 |
And when you do all that stuff when you're really young and you really go, go, go, go, 00:40:50.320 |
go, it hugely transforms the rest of your life. 00:40:56.960 |
And education has a huge compounding effect over time. 00:41:15.240 |
Your goal should be to get as much of the highest quality education that you possibly 00:41:21.620 |
Your goal should also be to get as much of the highest quality schooling as you possibly 00:41:29.060 |
But you should also, even when finished with schooling, you should get as much of the highest 00:41:33.380 |
quality education that you possibly can as soon as you can. 00:41:38.360 |
So you should always look for opportunities to become more well-educated. 00:41:42.820 |
And this here is where we just simply apply all of the basic fundamentals of self-education, 00:41:48.700 |
being widely read, being widely lectured to, whether that's through podcasts or videos 00:41:54.920 |
or online classes that you take, being widely experienced by going to conferences, meeting 00:42:03.920 |
And you should continually do as much of that as you can. 00:42:09.320 |
Follow your interests and go down the pathways. 00:42:14.600 |
I appreciate the many nice compliments that many people pay about the things that I know 00:42:20.920 |
I know a little bit about a lot of different topics. 00:42:25.400 |
And it allows me to do what I do for a living, which I find very gratifying and rewarding. 00:42:35.040 |
Basically all I have done is swapped out some time-wasting consumption activities that other 00:42:44.560 |
And I've just substituted my enjoyment for different things. 00:42:49.960 |
The most mystifying question that anyone has ever, ever asks me is things like, "Joshua, 00:42:56.680 |
And this was mystifying to me for many years because I always felt like I should have some 00:43:02.160 |
answer of what to say, like, "Well, I watch football" or something like that. 00:43:07.000 |
But later on, I just realized my hobby is learning. 00:43:12.840 |
And I don't see why a hobby of learning is in any way inferior to any other hobby. 00:43:17.880 |
And I don't find it any less enjoyable than anything else. 00:43:21.120 |
I think I get just as much satisfaction out of learning as some other guy does from throwing 00:43:29.200 |
I can sort of kind of throw a football as long as you don't go too far away, just because 00:43:35.880 |
But in general, you can choose all of these things. 00:43:40.920 |
And when you choose to have hobbies of things like education or schooling, they are just 00:43:48.960 |
I'm not going to go deep down this rabbit trail. 00:43:53.160 |
But some guys make their hobby drinking beer and eating pizza. 00:43:58.480 |
Other guys make their hobby climbing mountains. 00:44:01.660 |
And both of them get together with their buddies and they do the thing that they like to do. 00:44:05.880 |
They're both having a great time doing what they're doing. 00:44:09.320 |
But the guy who chooses the hobby of drinking beer and eating pizza is headed for a lifetime 00:44:15.320 |
He's headed for early diabetes, early heart attack. 00:44:21.960 |
The guy who makes the habit of climbing mountains is headed for, in general, great health, great 00:44:28.040 |
stamina, and a totally different perspective of the world. 00:44:31.600 |
So we need to be really careful about the kinds of things that we generally engage in, 00:44:36.360 |
that we try to focus on, the kinds of hobbies that we enjoy. 00:44:39.860 |
And if you go back and think about the pathway of life of someone who pursues getting as 00:44:45.240 |
much of the highest quality education as he possibly can, if he spends his 20s, his teens 00:44:51.640 |
and his 20s, following that path as far as possible, and he wakes up at 30 years old 00:44:57.060 |
and he finishes out his advanced specialty after medical residency, did he really lose 00:45:05.200 |
something that was so valuable by doing that? 00:45:08.880 |
People are prone to say things like, "Well, he didn't have any fun because he was working 00:45:17.480 |
I've known a lot of very high-achieving academics who have a perfectly satisfying social life, 00:45:30.080 |
You don't have to, it's not as, "Oh, well, you're either a medical student or you have 00:45:37.360 |
But in general, the person who really dedicates himself to his craft and who works hard and 00:45:43.200 |
who becomes very highly educated is going to be a more useful and productive member 00:45:50.960 |
And hard work is one of those things that when you do it, it's its own reward. 00:45:58.560 |
When I reflect back to all the times that I didn't work hard and I thought, "Oh, I'm 00:46:03.080 |
doing too much," I can't today identify any value or any benefit to my life of the times 00:46:12.760 |
But I can identify huge value from all the times that I did. 00:46:20.200 |
Might it be true that some people are genuinely working too hard? 00:46:24.120 |
Might it be true that some people's ambitions are so large that it's putting them into a 00:46:31.720 |
Might it be true that in some cases it's important to lower ambitions? 00:46:42.720 |
But that seems like a fairly obviously easily diagnosable problem as compared to the alternative. 00:46:53.120 |
We can err on the side of being too hardworking and we can err on the side of being too lazy. 00:46:58.760 |
However, one is much more easily diagnosable and recoverable than the other. 00:47:05.380 |
If you, let's say that you're starting young and you find that you've worked far too hard 00:47:10.320 |
through your 20s and in your 30s you have a top 20% career, you have a high income, 00:47:16.320 |
you have a lot of money saved, you're very highly credentialed, you're very highly certified, 00:47:20.680 |
but you're working too much and too hard, it's relatively easy to go ahead and pull 00:47:28.920 |
Start smelling the roses a little bit and enjoying life a little bit more and still 00:47:33.120 |
get amazing results and you'll be happy with that move. 00:47:40.040 |
If you spend all your teens and your 20s and your 30s lazing about because you don't want 00:47:44.520 |
to just do too much and you wind up at, say, 40 years old and you're poorly educated, you 00:47:51.240 |
are relatively unqualified for almost anything, that's a pain that goes pretty deep and is 00:47:59.960 |
So if we have to err, it's better to err on the side of doing a little bit too much and 00:48:04.200 |
then pull back when the conditions warrant than the alternative, easier to make corrections 00:48:11.340 |
Now, as I start to wind down this episode, I want to re-emphasize that you should be 00:48:18.120 |
careful, thoughtful, and strategic about the specific delivery mechanisms of the education 00:48:29.860 |
If you are working in an area in which self-education through books and seminars and courses is 00:48:42.540 |
If you are working in an area where formal education with some kind of accredited school 00:48:48.480 |
or college is obviously the best path, then focus on that. 00:48:58.520 |
Every person is at a different place in a career. 00:49:01.360 |
And throughout your life and lifetime and career, there will be different time periods 00:49:08.000 |
in which certain choices are pretty obviously better choices than others. 00:49:13.440 |
What I want you to take home from this episode is simply this. 00:49:18.120 |
Your standard choice, your default option, your basic operating mindset should be, "I 00:49:30.080 |
I must get the highest quality education that is available to me. 00:49:39.200 |
If you have that basic mindset and you repeatedly exercise the specific steps that will emerge 00:49:46.460 |
from that mindset, then in the beginning, your career will seem like it's only going 00:49:54.680 |
But when we zoom back and look at your life over the course of, say, a 40 or 50-year lifespan, 00:50:01.200 |
working career, as you repeatedly dogmatically apply that throughout your life, you will 00:50:08.680 |
be on a very different trajectory and you'll be very happy with your results. 00:50:13.600 |
While you may strategically use periods of inactivity, such as a gap year or such as, 00:50:19.280 |
"I'm going to go and work in this industry for two years and then go back and get a graduate 00:50:23.880 |
degree," that can be a very valuable component of your strategy. 00:50:28.240 |
So while you may employ those strategies, you should not allow that to cause you to 00:50:34.160 |
become complacent, nor should you defer educational and school opportunities to the future thinking, 00:50:45.640 |
You can't always go back, and even if you can do it in the future, there are times in 00:50:54.280 |
Now one final point as to why this is actually very helpful. 00:51:00.360 |
Think back to goal number two, where I talked about spend half and save half. 00:51:06.600 |
And think back to how I said that if you'll defer your high-consumption lifestyle by a 00:51:12.280 |
few years, then you will find yourself to be decades ahead of your peers. 00:51:19.440 |
The time in your life in which it will probably be the easiest for you to live very modestly 00:51:25.680 |
will be during your young adult years, especially your college years. 00:51:31.360 |
Very rarely do we expect a young person who is in college to have a lot of money. 00:51:36.800 |
And so everything about the college lifestyle is oriented towards high-return, high-fun 00:51:49.680 |
And if you're hanging out with college students, generally since most people are broke, it's 00:51:53.880 |
pretty easy to have a lot of fun together, but to have a lot of fun together inexpensively. 00:51:59.680 |
Where that starts to change is when people start to get out of college and get "real 00:52:08.240 |
And now all of a sudden when they have adult wages and they have low expenses because they're 00:52:15.200 |
still usually young and single, then they very quickly adapt to a higher consumption 00:52:20.680 |
There's a really nice natural compliment here that if you stay in school for a little 00:52:26.040 |
longer than most other people, you have kind of an easy excuse for your frugality. 00:52:32.880 |
And remember that just because you're in school doesn't mean you necessarily have 00:52:42.200 |
So this is something you can exercise at any point in your life. 00:52:45.240 |
But I'm certainly acknowledging that a lot of this advice in this series is going to 00:52:50.680 |
be most applicable to young people who are especially thinking about this college strategy. 00:52:56.640 |
So if you're spending your 20s and you're finishing out various graduate degrees and 00:53:02.320 |
terminal degrees in addition to your self-education, and especially if you're working concurrently 00:53:06.700 |
with that, then from a lifestyle perspective, it's fairly low pressure for you just to acknowledge, 00:53:12.320 |
"Hey, I don't have much money to spend so I don't spend much money." 00:53:15.900 |
And in reality, you may be earning very well and you may be saving huge amounts of money. 00:53:21.060 |
So this can be a very reasonable way for you to adapt to a low cost of living lifestyle 00:53:26.580 |
at a time where that really doesn't hurt you very much because your friends are accustomed 00:53:30.140 |
to it and it's very easy to live inexpensively at this period of life. 00:53:35.100 |
We'll cover other savings and investments in future episodes. 00:53:39.300 |
But your overall long-term rate of return on investments in education tends to be the 00:53:48.120 |
If we wanted to put it even more simply than I did in the title of the show, you should 00:53:52.100 |
spend as much money on your education as you possibly can until you just can't spend money 00:53:58.900 |
And when you reach the point where it's just not possible for you to effectively spend 00:54:03.380 |
money on education, then that's when you flip to other kinds of investments. 00:54:08.680 |
Your most powerful wealth-building tool is going to be you and your income. 00:54:13.860 |
And every dollar that you can spend on increasing your income is going to pay off over the long-term 00:54:23.700 |
Goal number five, get as much of the highest quality education that you possibly can as 00:54:31.380 |
That's a goal that every one of us should set. 00:54:36.980 |
Be we at the beginning of a career, be we in the middle of a career, even be we in the 00:54:42.580 |
Every one of us should have a goal of getting as much of the highest quality education as 00:54:52.000 |
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