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Welcome to Radical Personal Finance, a show dedicated to providing you with the knowledge, 00:00:03.760 |
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building a plan for financial freedom in 10 years or less. 00:00:10.560 |
My name is Josh Rasheeds, I'm your host, and today I'm going to explain to you how to buy 00:00:16.880 |
This question will be answered in a series of episodes. 00:00:20.840 |
We'll talk first today about whether you should buy a car. 00:00:23.840 |
We'll talk about ways to think about the kind of car you should buy. 00:00:27.480 |
Then we'll move on to systems of negotiation, how to finance a car or not finance a car, 00:00:33.240 |
how to get a good deal on a new car, how to get a good deal on a used car, how to decide 00:00:38.720 |
whether you should lease a car, buy a car, etc. 00:00:41.720 |
But today we begin with the foundational question in how to buy a car, which is simply ask yourself, 00:00:52.360 |
One of the thinking tools that is best cultivated in our lives is always, is this even necessary? 00:01:00.960 |
For example, in productivity training, one of the first lessons that you learn in productivity 00:01:08.140 |
training is to ask the question, is this necessary? 00:01:13.040 |
Before you set up a system to do something efficiently, ask yourself if it's even necessary 00:01:20.720 |
Many many people confuse efficiency with effectiveness and their personal productivity. 00:01:28.200 |
They go through life doing things with excellence that don't need to be done at all. 00:01:33.920 |
So when you're sitting and looking at a list of tasks, things to do, one of the first things 00:01:37.740 |
you should ask yourself is, which of these can I simply eliminate? 00:01:42.060 |
Before I go through and figure out how to delegate this task to another person, before 00:01:45.960 |
I go through my list and try to create a system for handling this task in a more efficient 00:01:50.560 |
way or with more advanced tools, can I simply eliminate the task? 00:01:55.600 |
What are the consequences for eliminating the task? 00:01:59.280 |
And this level of addressing or thinking about the consequences is important. 00:02:04.480 |
And we're going to talk about the consequences of owning or not owning a car in a moment. 00:02:09.540 |
Many tasks can be eliminated from someone's to-do list with zero negative consequences. 00:02:16.200 |
But we usually eliminate those things fairly automatically. 00:02:24.040 |
There are other tasks that we can eliminate, but there's going to be a cost. 00:02:30.200 |
And one of the skills of personal productivity has to do with learning to understand the 00:02:35.520 |
actual costs of eliminating a task and being willing to accept the cost if it's low enough. 00:02:44.440 |
The question to ask in how to buy a car is, at the very beginning, do I need to buy a 00:02:55.920 |
I want to talk about this from a financial perspective and also from a lifestyle perspective. 00:03:03.080 |
There's no question that for most people, the answer to these questions is automatically 00:03:08.640 |
For example, I both need and want to own a car. 00:03:14.000 |
I have not established my lifestyle in such a way that I live easily without a car. 00:03:23.120 |
When you have children, cars are way better than virtually every other option. 00:03:27.720 |
It's also simply due to the lifestyle that I want to live and the kind of freedom that 00:03:32.360 |
Having ready transportation where I'm not dependent upon a chauffeur, where I'm not 00:03:36.720 |
dependent upon a commercial service of some kind is for me a great advantage. 00:03:42.480 |
I like the lifestyle benefits of having a vehicle and of being able to use a vehicle 00:03:49.880 |
However, there are a lot of lifestyle benefits that could be accrued by someone in a different 00:03:54.420 |
situation than my own where the lifestyle benefits of not owning a car are much more 00:04:02.920 |
Let's begin, of course, on a personal finance podcast with a brief discussion of the financial 00:04:11.400 |
There's no question that cars are a financial hassle. 00:04:18.240 |
Depending on where you are in your wealth-building journey, you will want to consider the car 00:04:23.160 |
and whether it will add to your life and your lifestyle and your finances and your enjoyment 00:04:29.640 |
For many people who are at the beginning stage of their career, who are just starting their 00:04:34.440 |
process of earning money, establishing themselves and their lifestyle and their career, cars 00:04:39.640 |
will be the biggest expense both up front and also the biggest expense on an ongoing 00:04:47.880 |
For the, say, 20-year-old young man or woman who's going out to buy his or her first car 00:04:52.640 |
or 16-year-old or 24-year-old, whatever age you want to use, most likely that first car 00:04:58.080 |
purchase will be the first big expense that that individual will make. 00:05:03.280 |
I remember for me, my first car cost me $2,000 and it was the largest single expense that 00:05:10.800 |
As your lifestyle grows, cars will usually be the biggest regular expense that you'll 00:05:18.200 |
They're really dwarfed only by house purchases. 00:05:20.400 |
But it's not uncommon for someone to go and purchase a $50,000 car, $100,000 car and to 00:05:27.200 |
Unless you're running a business where you regularly have large business expenses or 00:05:30.720 |
unless you're purchasing real estate, for most normal financial households, that will 00:05:36.400 |
be the biggest expense that you make on an ongoing basis. 00:05:41.560 |
You have to put together the cash or put together the credit to make the up front payments necessary 00:05:52.960 |
Usually the biggest expense of a car is its depreciation. 00:05:58.160 |
Depreciation is a word that we use to describe how much something will decline in value due 00:06:06.640 |
And with cars, in normal markets, that number is pretty significant. 00:06:12.200 |
Traditionally, I have to give these caveats because the last few years in the vehicle 00:06:15.920 |
market have not been anything like what we understand to be normal due to the microchip 00:06:20.240 |
shortage and the global supply line disruptions, etc. 00:06:22.720 |
But traditionally we say that cars normally lose about 20% of their value in the first 00:06:28.280 |
year of ownership, assuming that you purchase one new. 00:06:31.440 |
And they also then lose about 15% of their value on an annual basis. 00:06:37.800 |
This has not been true over the last few years. 00:06:40.680 |
I've worked with many people who've gotten offers for their two or three year old car 00:06:44.200 |
where people and businesses have offered to pay them more than they paid for the vehicle 00:06:50.740 |
But I think this is a temporary condition that in most places will diminish and is already 00:07:01.440 |
Let's assume that you go and today you purchase a fairly ordinary new car. 00:07:06.000 |
Could be a new middle of the road minivan, new pickup truck, new car. 00:07:12.800 |
This number would be applicable for most cars except kind of an entry level economy car. 00:07:18.680 |
Well, in the first year that you spend $40,000, you can expect that car to decline in value 00:07:29.440 |
It would decline in value from $40,000 to $32,000 and you would have $8,000 of depreciation. 00:07:37.640 |
Well, most people who are going to buy a $32,000 car could go out and buy a $40,000 car if 00:07:45.920 |
And so they're not willing to pay you as much for your car that they can go and get the 00:07:53.560 |
Why would somebody pay you $38,000 for your one year old car when they could go pay a 00:07:59.880 |
dealer $40,000 for a brand new car and get all of the goods and guarantees that go with 00:08:06.880 |
Everything from perfect warranty coverage, knowing the full service history of the vehicle, 00:08:10.600 |
having the dealer protection plans and all of the special sales packages that you can 00:08:16.360 |
Everything to even the new car smell and the thrill of having a shiny new car that you 00:08:21.960 |
So a used car is in most people's lives much less valuable than a new car. 00:08:31.160 |
The reason this has changed over the last couple of years is that there was a wide shortage 00:08:35.240 |
of new cars and there was a wide shortage of new cars with the features and options 00:08:39.720 |
that people wanted, especially due to the microchip shortage. 00:08:43.040 |
And so they wanted a car with certain features and the only way to get that car was to go 00:08:48.600 |
But again, this is not a permanent condition. 00:08:52.640 |
So in the first year of your $40,000 car purchase, you'll have $8,000 of depreciation. 00:08:58.080 |
I want you to imagine the kind of person who will often go out and purchase a $40,000 car. 00:09:05.160 |
Frequently that will be somebody who is just getting established in his lifestyle, somebody 00:09:13.720 |
$8,000 of depreciation can be a pretty heavy cost for someone who doesn't have a lot of 00:09:20.580 |
After all, there are many households where the people involved struggled to even fill 00:09:27.840 |
Well $8,000 is more than an annual contribution to a Roth IRA. 00:09:32.560 |
And so if you recognize that some people are scrimping and saving to go and put $6,000 00:09:39.120 |
in a Roth IRA, but you're having $6,000 in depreciation on your car, you're basically 00:09:43.680 |
not actually making any forward financial progress. 00:09:46.840 |
For every payment into your Roth IRA, you then have the exact same amount fly out the 00:09:53.480 |
This immaterial expense that we can't really see but is actually there. 00:10:00.120 |
So now if we depreciate our $32,000 car by 15%, that would be a cost of depreciation 00:10:11.760 |
Once again, we might be scrimping and saving to put $5,000 in our Roth IRA and here goes 00:10:27.040 |
There are of course other expenses to be accounted for. 00:10:30.880 |
On your purchase expenses, you have taxes in addition to the purchase price, taxes, 00:10:36.040 |
On an annual basis, you have fees of insurance. 00:10:39.640 |
You have fees not only, you have costs not only of depreciation but also of direct mechanical 00:10:44.280 |
repairs, insurance expenses, fuel to fund the thing, to make the thing go down the road, 00:10:51.120 |
and then just all of the other ancillary things, accessories, ways that you want to get your 00:10:54.560 |
car just how you want it, accessories to make it more useful to you, to make it appropriate, 00:11:07.800 |
For me, I don't worry too much about the money that a car costs, but I often get annoyed 00:11:18.680 |
Time to go and take it to the mechanic when it needs to be fixed. 00:11:22.500 |
Time to have it washed and wash it yourself or time to have it washed and vacuumed, et 00:11:28.480 |
I often find myself annoyed with the time required to maintain a vehicle. 00:11:32.600 |
Now certainly those are pretty ordinary things. 00:11:35.640 |
It's not that big a deal, but there are some downsides. 00:11:39.400 |
In addition, owning a car can be a significant source of personal liability. 00:11:44.520 |
There can be first of all a sense of liability of worrying about the thing. 00:11:49.480 |
If you have a thing that is big and expensive, then if it represents an overly large amount 00:11:55.720 |
of your budget or an overly large amount of your finances, the actual ownership can come 00:12:03.520 |
Somebody who scrimps and saves and buys a car that's outside of his financial resources, 00:12:09.520 |
it gets very worried when a new scratch appears or gets very worried when there's a shopping 00:12:17.160 |
It's also consideration even from the perspective of liability, personal liability. 00:12:21.360 |
It's interesting as somebody who practices a little bit of coaching and planning with 00:12:27.680 |
regard to asset protection planning, I frequently speak to people about asset protection planning 00:12:33.880 |
and the first thing I ask them is, "What is the source of liability that you face?" 00:12:38.760 |
Many people dramatically overestimate the actual liabilities that exist in their life 00:12:46.760 |
When we talk through it, if you're somebody who works at a job, goes to work every day, 00:12:52.240 |
comes home, isn't managing a company, doesn't have employees, doesn't have trucks driving 00:12:56.080 |
all around town with your name on the side of them, generally the only liabilities you 00:13:01.740 |
face are liabilities for either personal actions such as wronging someone, harassing someone, 00:13:08.160 |
etc. or something related to your car or your home. 00:13:16.160 |
Your home of course has less liability where you can protect it quite a bit. 00:13:22.200 |
People talk about, "Oh, there's a slip and fall on my front sidewalk," but that's one 00:13:27.400 |
It's another thing to actually have somebody bring a successful lawsuit against you, at 00:13:31.360 |
least if your sidewalk is in proper working condition. 00:13:34.140 |
But your car on the other hand is frequently the biggest source of personal liability. 00:13:38.880 |
Your car because you can't often control the circumstances that you're in. 00:13:43.080 |
You can't control the roads, you can't control what people do or don't do, how other drivers 00:13:48.840 |
You can't control all of those aspects of it and frequently you might even commit a 00:13:55.340 |
wrong in being negligent for a moment, sending a text message in your car while you're driving 00:14:02.480 |
So that automobile itself is often a source of significant personal liability. 00:14:07.240 |
Now you can handle that with a quality liability policy as part of your car insurance and then 00:14:12.920 |
you can link that with an umbrella liability policy in your home and you can handle the 00:14:19.480 |
But pointing out that cars do have downsides. 00:14:23.280 |
The longer you own a car, the more those downsides increase. 00:14:26.560 |
It seems that no matter what you do on the front end, the longer you own a car, the more 00:14:31.180 |
you have to go and change out the tires, the more you have to take to the mechanic, the 00:14:35.360 |
more you have to go and do inspections and registrations, etc. and the time and the money 00:14:45.720 |
But if these negatives are significant, you know I didn't even talk about other hassles 00:14:51.120 |
because I don't live in the city and I don't think much about this. 00:14:53.040 |
First of all, if you live in the city also, think about things like parking expense or 00:14:57.080 |
think about things like the hassle of even keeping the car safely parked and keeping 00:15:01.080 |
the car moved so that you don't get excessive tickets. 00:15:06.600 |
That's to say nothing of even the lifestyle impact of designing cities around cars. 00:15:12.360 |
I'm a fan of the designs of cities that don't involve cars because I think they make for 00:15:16.600 |
more pleasant housing for people, more pleasant towns. 00:15:20.480 |
And when we design most of our modern cities around car ownership, they make very unpleasant 00:15:25.720 |
And so there are environmental impacts that people can consider. 00:15:30.860 |
There are many other reasons that you can fill in. 00:15:32.920 |
So could you avoid owning a car in the first place? 00:15:39.360 |
And in the future, more and more people will be able to avoid owning a car. 00:15:44.400 |
Let's begin with the old-fashioned ways of handling this problem. 00:15:48.800 |
First, people who have little need to commute can generally avoid owning a car. 00:15:56.080 |
If you work from home, either in the modern sense of being a knowledge worker who works 00:16:00.900 |
from your home office, in a traditional sense of being a homemaker, your need for a vehicle 00:16:09.200 |
If you are at home and if you're living in a home where you like to be, and if you're 00:16:13.440 |
living in a home where you can access the things around you that are nice for you and 00:16:18.800 |
for your family, then there's little reason for you to need a car on a regular basis other 00:16:28.000 |
And so if you can build a lifestyle for yourself that doesn't revolve around car ownership, 00:16:37.360 |
Years ago, my wife and I, after we've been married a little bit, we bought a house. 00:16:40.640 |
And one of the things that I prioritized in the purchase of that house was to purchase 00:16:44.320 |
a house that was less dependent on needing a car. 00:16:49.320 |
We didn't go car-free, but we went car-light at the time, dropping from two cars to one 00:16:55.120 |
And it was not only a savings of finances, it was not only a savings of hassle, but it 00:17:01.200 |
was genuinely a significant lifestyle improvement. 00:17:04.960 |
I purchased a house that was about a third of a mile from my office. 00:17:09.480 |
I did work in an office and I needed to go to an office, but I would simply walk or ride 00:17:16.240 |
When you think about the lifestyle benefits of not having to rely on a vehicle, not having 00:17:20.100 |
to sit in traffic, not having to sit on the road, not having to deal with the time suck 00:17:24.440 |
of commuting, it's a major, major benefit to be within walking or bicycling distance 00:17:32.660 |
But more importantly, we bought a house that had good access to a lot of the things that 00:17:39.880 |
We were similarly about a quarter of a mile from a grocery store. 00:17:43.320 |
A good, excellent grocery store where we could go, we would take our bikes and our bike trailer 00:17:47.440 |
and do our grocery shopping and bring our groceries home in our bicycle trailer. 00:17:50.860 |
We were slightly more, a quarter, half a mile from a library. 00:17:55.640 |
So we would do regular library outings and that was the primary focus of outings with 00:18:00.200 |
the children, go for library story time, go and get books, et cetera. 00:18:05.440 |
We were close to several parks, several municipal parks, so we could easily walk and ride bicycles 00:18:11.120 |
So most of the things that we needed on a daily or weekly basis were within striking 00:18:15.960 |
distance of our home, easily achievable with a pleasant walk and/or a pleasant bicycle 00:18:22.600 |
That was not, again, that was a lifestyle improvement. 00:18:25.960 |
And so if you have little need to commute because you can arrange that kind of lifestyle 00:18:30.480 |
with telework, that's kind of an old-fashioned term, with just modern working from home, 00:18:36.240 |
that's a phenomenal improvement in lifestyle to not have to deal with the hassle of a car. 00:18:42.040 |
Now of course, another way to accomplish this is by living somewhere where there's a strong 00:18:48.520 |
And if you live in a place where public transportation is convenient, where it's reasonably priced, 00:18:53.480 |
where it's useful to you, then obviously this becomes much more achievable. 00:18:57.880 |
Many of the biggest cities in the world have great public transport systems, and having 00:19:02.840 |
a car is just—or sorry, not having a car is considered the normal affair. 00:19:07.080 |
If you live in the suburbs or you live in an American city that's sprawled out all over 00:19:11.760 |
the place, then the public transportation system is probably so inconvenient that once 00:19:16.160 |
you scrape together a few shekels, you're ready to go ahead and get a car for the convenience 00:19:20.760 |
But you can make an intentional decision to live in a place where there is a strong public 00:19:26.500 |
And you can even do this by thinking about, for example, living on a hub, somewhere where 00:19:31.840 |
you're conveniently located to the transportation system. 00:19:35.580 |
You might be a little bit out of the city, but you live near a train terminal or near 00:19:40.220 |
a bus stop or near some form of transportation system that makes it convenient enough for 00:19:44.720 |
you to go, get on the train, put that time to productive use so you don't have to spend 00:19:51.700 |
Living on a hub or a spur like that makes life better. 00:19:55.980 |
One of the—then of course the classic solution has been to simply take taxis or arrange for 00:20:02.620 |
There's been a dramatic improvement over the last decade in the convenience of these services, 00:20:07.900 |
where now that you can order a car with any number of excellent apps on your phone, and 00:20:13.420 |
you can pre-schedule the car to be there at a certain time and to take you where you want 00:20:17.060 |
to go, you can have those fees easily billed to your card. 00:20:24.020 |
It's so convenient to order your transportation in that way that it makes a lot of sense for 00:20:30.220 |
people to do that instead of owning or using a car on a regular basis. 00:20:34.740 |
A couple of stories to drive this point home. 00:20:38.420 |
Number one, for people who are elderly or for people who are poor, I think that this 00:20:48.820 |
As a standard part of Joshua's speech to elderly people or people who are approaching 00:20:53.660 |
elderliness, I routinely encourage them to be technically competent and experienced enough 00:21:00.700 |
where they can learn how to use transportation apps. 00:21:03.940 |
Because one of the classic problems of growing older has been the loss of independence. 00:21:09.780 |
That traditionally as you've gotten older and it became unsafe for you to drive or you 00:21:13.380 |
didn't want to drive anymore, then you became completely dependent on your friends, your 00:21:17.300 |
loved ones, your family for taking you around. 00:21:20.140 |
But with the modern ride sharing applications that are available, it no longer has to be 00:21:26.380 |
And so one of the things that I try to do is encourage older people to become comfortable 00:21:34.660 |
Because it makes it so that instead of sitting around and waiting for your daughter or your 00:21:39.300 |
son or somebody who's busy to come and take you once a week or once every two weeks on 00:21:43.500 |
grocery outings, you can reliably and independently get yourself transported to where you want 00:21:50.100 |
to go for your other two or three outings a week that will help you to really enjoy 00:21:55.720 |
So I encourage you, if you're interacting with elderly people who may not be able to 00:21:59.380 |
maintain a car, then go ahead and talk to them about that and see if you can help them 00:22:06.100 |
to learn how to be comfortable using ride sharing apps so that they can be independent. 00:22:11.020 |
In addition, for people who are poor, owning a car can be a significant expense, even if 00:22:18.700 |
There was a friend of mine that I worked with for a number of years trying to help, and 00:22:22.980 |
he was living on a very modest social security income. 00:22:30.940 |
He lived in a location that was quite convenient and where he could have easily walked to most 00:22:36.060 |
of the things that he needed to do, such as grocery shopping, etc. 00:22:42.940 |
His financial situation no longer permitted him to keep his car in as good a situation 00:22:50.260 |
And when I sat down and did the numbers, the amount of money that he was spending on his 00:22:53.260 |
car was literally hundreds of dollars per month of maintenance for an old car. 00:22:56.620 |
And he didn't have the capital necessary to purchase a new car. 00:23:00.340 |
And I urged him to sell the car, get rid of the car, and simply use a ride-sharing app. 00:23:06.660 |
Because he had enough resources of friends that he could borrow a car from on occasion. 00:23:11.560 |
If a ride-sharing app was unavailable, enough friends and people to rely on, that it would 00:23:18.300 |
In his situation, he couldn't conceive of it because culturally it didn't fit. 00:23:26.160 |
But even though he wasn't in a downtown environment, the financial benefit of just paying for the 00:23:31.860 |
ride that you need, instead of paying for this ongoing maintenance and expenses of maintaining 00:23:36.460 |
a car that was increasingly unreliable and showed no signs of reducing its monthly outflows 00:23:42.860 |
(or I guess the car's monthly inflows, how much was necessary to support it), it would 00:23:49.820 |
It was just this block in his mind about the lifestyle perspective and the freedom perspective. 00:23:54.900 |
Then finally, we get to the concept of at a higher end, just simply using ride-sharing 00:24:03.460 |
Years ago when I was a financial planner, I would go see a lot of people in their offices. 00:24:09.500 |
I sat down and I realized I was driving so much and I thought this time really could 00:24:17.060 |
At the time, I seriously considered hiring a driver to drive me around. 00:24:22.380 |
It was something that wealthier, more productive financial advisors, a few of them did, and 00:24:28.620 |
they used their car time much more productively if they had a driver. 00:24:38.660 |
Today though, number one, I solved a lot of that by simply stopping going to seeing people 00:24:42.980 |
and sitting in my office having people come to me instead. 00:24:46.380 |
And then of course this was prior to the widespread acceptance of Zoom meetings, etc. 00:24:50.260 |
Today with Zoom, you could get by even better. 00:24:53.380 |
But then today, by simply using a ride-sharing service regularly, you can get very close 00:25:00.920 |
to what was formerly kind of a rich man's lifestyle choice to have a full-time driver. 00:25:06.560 |
You can get there pretty well, pretty close to that at a fraction of the cost simply using 00:25:13.440 |
I have a friend of mine who had his driver's license suspended, and yet this guy had a 00:25:20.680 |
job where he needed to go all over town for meetings, and so he had no option but to use 00:25:25.000 |
And when we sat down and looked at the amount he was spending, his ride-sharing services, 00:25:30.520 |
even for regular meetings all around town, come out to about $1,000 a month. 00:25:35.520 |
And $1,000 a month for having a driver take you where you want to go whenever you want 00:25:39.880 |
to, while there is in some cases a decrease in convenience, that's a pretty reasonable 00:25:45.320 |
cost to have what formerly you could really only have with a full-time chauffeur and all 00:25:52.240 |
So if you're somebody who spends a couple thousand dollars a month on vehicle expenses, 00:25:59.720 |
and if you would like to have that time to yourself where you just get into the car and 00:26:07.520 |
The biggest problem is if you're doing business in a place where you can't get rides quickly 00:26:11.320 |
and conveniently, but if you're in a place where the ride-sharing services come quickly, 00:26:15.160 |
you can schedule them when you want to, and you have enough flexibility that that could 00:26:24.440 |
And then we get to the alternatives that involve you transporting yourself instead of being 00:26:33.000 |
You can establish a lifestyle for yourself where you have an alternative to either walk 00:26:37.960 |
or bicycle to the places that you want to go. 00:26:41.240 |
And if you'll think carefully about the choices that you make, you can do this in comfort 00:26:46.720 |
with excellence, and it doesn't have to be a sense of deprivation. 00:26:53.800 |
There are cities that are very unpleasant to be in without a car, and there are cities 00:26:59.180 |
that are very pleasant to be in without a car. 00:27:04.320 |
And you can choose intentionally to live in one of the cities that is pleasant to be in. 00:27:10.360 |
Remember that cities, states, and countries are all competing for your presence and for 00:27:18.160 |
In order for a city or a state or a country to be effective and successful, it needs population. 00:27:25.660 |
And you can choose to simply pull up roots where you are and go to a place that has the 00:27:33.560 |
And these lifestyle amenities can be a big factor of it. 00:27:38.000 |
Just last week I was talking with a Dutch friend about Amsterdam. 00:27:42.080 |
The Amsterdam bicycle culture is truly incredible. 00:27:44.320 |
If you're not familiar with it, just go on YouTube and grab a few things and let the 00:27:48.420 |
algorithm send you all kinds of videos extolling the virtues of the bicycle culture in the 00:27:55.120 |
But it truly is remarkable that you can choose to live in a city where you can get along 00:28:00.080 |
quite well and very comfortably with a bicycle rather than a car. 00:28:05.440 |
And you can do that in many places all around the world, in many places in your state, your 00:28:15.340 |
So choose to think about where you locate yourself. 00:28:18.560 |
In addition, most cities actually have interesting ways that if you'll sit down and look at a 00:28:23.800 |
map or figure out what's there in the city, you can figure out something that would allow 00:28:28.160 |
you to attend to most of what you need to attend to with a bicycle or with walking. 00:28:34.000 |
I think of course here bicycling is the normal way because walking, maybe you have a distance 00:28:42.000 |
Five miles is traditionally considered walking distance throughout most of the history of 00:28:46.080 |
In the modern world, most of us would not consider that to be walking distance, but 00:28:49.960 |
you certainly can walk comfortably a couple of miles. 00:28:55.400 |
And what I would encourage you is not only consider if there is a suitable bike route 00:28:59.840 |
for you to get from your home to your office or to the kinds of events that you care about, 00:29:04.960 |
but think about if there's something that would be accessible to you with an e-bike. 00:29:09.400 |
One of the technologies that I'm so excited about in the modern world is battery powered 00:29:16.240 |
If you haven't ever ridden an electric bicycle, I would urge you to find what place where 00:29:20.920 |
you can rent one, ride a friend, et cetera, and try it out. 00:29:24.640 |
Because an electric bicycle, as far as I'm concerned, solves all of those kind of lingering 00:29:34.640 |
There are times when riding a bicycle where you're tired, you don't want to pedal, or 00:29:37.960 |
you have to go up hills, or it's hot outside, et cetera. 00:29:41.040 |
But if you get a high powered, good quality electric bicycle, it basically gives you the 00:29:48.600 |
equivalent of a small motorcycle with all of the convenience of a bicycle. 00:29:57.000 |
Motorcycles are certainly one reasonable transportation option in places where you can ride them safely. 00:30:01.960 |
But because of their noise, because of their size, and because of their clear classification 00:30:06.260 |
as a motor vehicle, you have all of the limitations and restrictions of a motor vehicle. 00:30:14.360 |
Motorcycles can generally, in some places, ignore some of the transportation laws. 00:30:20.480 |
You don't feel bad about going up on the sidewalk where appropriate. 00:30:24.280 |
You don't feel bad cutting across a parking lot to shave a corner, et cetera. 00:30:28.960 |
If you pair the bicycle with a good electric motor, it really gives you the best of both 00:30:33.720 |
worlds, where you have the ease and the joy of a motorcycle with a bicycle, with the convenience, 00:30:44.240 |
There are many people, I think that certainly there are people who could easily handle a 00:30:51.320 |
But there are many more people who, if they tried out an electric bicycle, could embrace 00:30:57.040 |
easily a 10 mile commute on an electric bicycle without worrying about being fatigued, without 00:31:02.200 |
worrying about being excessively sweaty, et cetera. 00:31:05.160 |
So if you chose a house, let's say you needed to work in a downtown area, but you chose 00:31:09.120 |
a house that was along a green corridor, or a place where you had great bike paths, or 00:31:12.960 |
just a really beautiful place to ride your bicycle on a daily commute, that could allow 00:31:20.040 |
So these are some of the reasons to avoid buying a car, and here are some of the alternatives. 00:31:25.920 |
And I believe that with appropriate texture for individual situations, these alternatives 00:31:34.000 |
offer enough positive features that make them a genuinely better lifestyle. 00:31:40.840 |
If you live in a town where you could bicycle to the things that matter to you, to your 00:31:47.200 |
work, to your grocery store, to your social engagements, to all the places that you want 00:31:51.060 |
to do, and you could dispense with the car without suffering a lifestyle subtraction, 00:31:59.080 |
that can be a major improvement in lifestyle. 00:32:04.040 |
The finances can be simply the icing on the cake. 00:32:07.560 |
By the way, let me point out, I think here, from a financial perspective, if a move is 00:32:14.120 |
required, for example, let's say you're living in a house in the middle of nowhere, but you 00:32:17.800 |
could move to another house that was closer to town. 00:32:20.680 |
If a move is required, and if the move requires you to spend more money on real estate to 00:32:25.080 |
accomplish it, as your financial planner, I would urge you to consider it. 00:32:30.520 |
Because from a financial perspective, you need to remember that cars go down in value, 00:32:40.680 |
Cars go down in value very quickly, and commuting expenses are not deductible. 00:32:46.280 |
On the other hand, houses generally go up in value, and the expenses associated with 00:32:58.840 |
Looking at that, if you had the choice, and you said, "I've got to move from a $500,000 00:33:03.640 |
house in the suburbs to a $1,000,000 house in that great neighborhood in town, but it's 00:33:08.600 |
going to cause me to come out of pocket another half a million dollars," while that's a significant 00:33:15.360 |
amount that I'm not sure you're going to get rid of with saving on car expenses, it's probably 00:33:23.680 |
As your resources grow, one of the best investments you can make is to purchase increasingly expensive 00:33:29.840 |
personal residences, because those generally go up in value. 00:33:34.160 |
As you move from the suburbs to the better neighborhoods in town, your houses become 00:33:42.060 |
If it's necessary for you to justify that increase in real estate cost by getting rid 00:33:47.760 |
of a car, and going from a two-car family to a one-car family, or going to a zero-car 00:33:56.400 |
If you can get rid of all those non-deductible commuting expenses and convert them into deductible 00:34:02.680 |
expenses for real estate taxes and mortgage interest, et cetera, that will generally be 00:34:09.680 |
Better for you to own a $1,000,000 house in the middle of the city in a highly desirable, 00:34:13.280 |
walkable, bike-sickable neighborhood, and be without a car, and without the financial 00:34:18.040 |
albatross that that thing can be hanging around your neck, than for you to be in your $500,000 00:34:22.760 |
house out on the periphery, spending $20,000 to $30,000 a year maintaining your car. 00:34:28.800 |
Better to put the $20,000 to $30,000 a year into mortgage payments that are reducing your 00:34:32.600 |
principal and allowing you to own a more expensive, more attractive house, and live a better lifestyle, 00:34:43.320 |
Now let's assume that you've considered that, and you're like, "Well, I think I do want 00:34:46.760 |
to own a car, and I think I need to own a car, or I want to own a car." 00:34:51.160 |
So what are the reasons why you would need or want to own a car? 00:34:56.320 |
By the way, I don't think you need to justify it as need or want. 00:34:59.960 |
So I'm going to use these terms synonymously. 00:35:01.520 |
At the end of the day, remember, it's always your money. 00:35:05.280 |
And if you go into a spending decision with your eyes wide open, and you choose what you 00:35:08.600 |
value personally, and you spend your money on that, go for it. 00:35:11.440 |
But the first obvious reason to own a car is that, especially from a financial planning 00:35:17.920 |
perspective, is if that car allows you to earn money. 00:35:23.040 |
If a car allows you to earn money, then you can easily justify its expense. 00:35:29.640 |
If you live 25 miles away from your job, and you couldn't go and have the job without being 00:35:35.280 |
able to get there back and forth every day, then your obvious thing you need is a car 00:35:42.480 |
And this is one thing that if you study the very poor, one of the best lifestyle and financial 00:35:47.840 |
investments that those who are very poor can make, especially if they're living in communities 00:35:51.320 |
with poor public transportation, is to get a car. 00:35:55.660 |
Because then that allows them to reliably get to work, to get jobs they ordinarily wouldn't 00:35:59.960 |
be able to get because they were depending on public transportation, and to be better, 00:36:05.720 |
And so the same thing can apply whether you're 18 or whether you're 58. 00:36:08.880 |
If the car allows you to get to work, then it can be a wonderful solution. 00:36:13.760 |
Say all you want about complaining about sitting in traffic, but it's one thing to be making 00:36:19.640 |
$300,000 a year and then be annoyed with sitting in traffic for an hour each way. 00:36:25.000 |
That's very different than making $30,000 a year and looking around trying to figure 00:36:29.360 |
out how to improve your situation in life and realizing that there's no possibility 00:36:33.120 |
for me to make more living where I'm living, working in this area where I'm working. 00:36:36.580 |
The car can allow you to access a different market. 00:36:38.840 |
The car can allow you to access a different job. 00:36:41.220 |
And so a car can in many ways be a really important tool that allows you to go and earn 00:36:50.560 |
Related to that, the car can be, even if it's not strictly a transportation necessity, the 00:36:55.880 |
car can be part of your overall presentation, part of your professional image, and thus 00:37:01.680 |
an important thing for you to spend money on, even if you don't technically need it. 00:37:06.720 |
When I was younger, I underestimated the importance of this. 00:37:10.220 |
When I was a financial advisor and I was riding my bicycle to work, I was feeling quite smug 00:37:15.040 |
and self-satisfied about myself because I was making smart decisions of riding my bicycle. 00:37:19.800 |
Today I look back and I realize a little bit more detachment that it was a foolish thing 00:37:23.800 |
for me to do because while me being the weirdo who rides a bicycle to work works very well 00:37:29.200 |
in the world of a podcast where I can call a podcast radical personal finance, in the 00:37:33.200 |
normal everyday kind of systems of life, it marked me as being excessively weird and excessively 00:37:41.980 |
And people don't generally like hanging out with people or even doing business with people 00:37:46.040 |
who are excessively weird and excessively strange. 00:37:48.740 |
So if you work in a place where it's totally normal for people to ride bicycles, great, 00:37:53.040 |
But if you work in an office where it's totally normal for everyone to drive BMWs, then almost 00:37:58.080 |
certainly you should be getting a BMW because it's part of your overall image, it's part 00:38:04.440 |
And you will make your co-workers much more comfortable with you if you fit in to their 00:38:10.880 |
preconceived ideas, to their stereotypes, and to their biases. 00:38:18.920 |
You'll get farther in the world if you recognize that the person that you're signaling yourself 00:38:29.200 |
And to use another example, we'll talk about this quite a lot in the episode coming up 00:38:36.680 |
So I'm going to just short circuit it here, but you need to be very conscious of signaling 00:38:41.280 |
You need to be very conscious of the kind of person that you're signaling yourself to 00:38:45.320 |
Again, I can talk freely here on a podcast called radical personal finance about being 00:38:50.240 |
the weirdo who would ride his bicycle to work. 00:38:53.160 |
And that's fine in this context because it's part of a congruent image of my signaling 00:38:59.680 |
myself to be a radical free thinker to a certain measure. 00:39:04.520 |
And while there are many listeners who will listen and say, "I would never do that," they 00:39:08.920 |
kind of chuckle and say, "Well, that's just Joshua. 00:39:11.960 |
But if I'm working in an attorney office or a financial planning office, it's just a totally 00:39:19.160 |
And so in hindsight, I see that I was too immature and I didn't perceive that I was 00:39:24.040 |
causing people to feel uncomfortable with my eccentricity. 00:39:29.120 |
And it would have been better if I had simply gone out, purchased a BMW, fit into the mold 00:39:33.600 |
that everyone expected of me, and simply signaled that I belonged. 00:39:37.320 |
Now, that's less damaging in a profession like financial planning where you basically 00:39:45.880 |
bring in your own business and all that matters is the business. 00:39:48.720 |
But if you are dependent on coworkers for their approval, that you're an attorney and 00:39:56.200 |
you want to be on a track to make partner or you're working in a professional office, 00:40:00.320 |
then it's very important that while certainly you can have your eccentricities, they need 00:40:05.080 |
to be fairly muted if you desire for your career advancement to flow along smoothly. 00:40:11.120 |
And so this has to do with how you dress, the car that you drive, the way that you speak, 00:40:16.200 |
You want to make it as easy as possible for people to accept you as part of the group. 00:40:21.800 |
And unless there is a personal career advantage to your being a free thinker of some kind, 00:40:32.520 |
And so this applies to, again, to all those factors. 00:40:37.040 |
It applies to your car, it applies to the way your hair cut, it applies to everything. 00:40:42.360 |
You want to make it easy for people to accept you so that they don't feel like it's a big 00:40:47.040 |
risk to promote you, to pass you on, et cetera. 00:40:51.040 |
There's an old cliche that no one ever got fired for choosing IBM. 00:40:55.320 |
But that cliche portrays a truth, meaning in people's careers, they're generally looking 00:41:06.160 |
So when you're choosing someone to promote, you want to choose the person who is the least 00:41:14.840 |
When you're choosing someone to support politically, you're generally choosing someone that's the 00:41:22.160 |
And in companies and things like that, if you just say, "Oh, I'm the guy who comes in 00:41:26.160 |
and rides a bicycle," then it paints you as an iconoclast, somebody who might be kind 00:41:34.880 |
And so that's something that you should be very, very careful and thoughtful about doing. 00:41:39.580 |
So reason number one to get a car is clearly if you need a car to earn money. 00:41:46.000 |
Reason number two to get a car is if you want a car or need a car to enhance your lifestyle. 00:41:52.440 |
Cars can be powerful, powerful lifestyle tools in so many ways. 00:41:59.160 |
So I mentioned at the beginning of the show, why don't I live car-free? 00:42:04.840 |
And with children, my lifestyle is so much better having a car than not having a car. 00:42:12.200 |
Maybe if I lived in downtown Amsterdam, we'd all do bicycles, right? 00:42:15.440 |
I'd have a back-feet bicycle and I'd trundle all my children around, maybe. 00:42:19.360 |
But I don't live in downtown Amsterdam and I don't want to do that. 00:42:23.720 |
So having the ability to come and go as I like, to take trips, to stop when I want to, 00:42:28.860 |
to be able to load up my children and go and get groceries and things like that, a car 00:42:32.920 |
is a really, really important and valuable lifestyle tool. 00:42:36.720 |
If I were single, I would avoid, generally, with one more caveat coming, I would avoid 00:42:43.480 |
But in the modern world, with having children, having a car is a great lifestyle tool. 00:42:48.400 |
A car can also enhance your lifestyle in many, many other ways. 00:42:52.920 |
So you can say all you want about saying, "I'm going to live in downtown New York City 00:42:57.320 |
and I'm just going to rent a car when I want to go out of the city," or, "I'm going to 00:43:02.600 |
You can rent a car whenever you want to go out of the city. 00:43:05.080 |
In my experience, having tried that, you wind up renting the car less frequently because 00:43:12.000 |
And you wind up saying no to some of the trips that you would take if it were your own car. 00:43:16.000 |
So having a car might mean that you travel more frequently, that you go up to the ski 00:43:20.600 |
Yeah, you can rent a car, but often even the times that you want to rent a car are the 00:43:24.240 |
times that everyone else wants to rent a car. 00:43:25.960 |
The selection is lower, the prices are higher, et cetera. 00:43:30.440 |
And so just having your own wheels and transportation is really, really valuable. 00:43:35.200 |
In addition, there are many lifestyle things that you can enjoy with a car that you wouldn't 00:43:41.380 |
So whether it's going to the grocery store, which I have done, especially in global travels 00:43:47.620 |
I've gone many times, taken all my children, we've ridden the bus from our rental house 00:43:52.020 |
to the grocery store, and then get all the groceries and come back. 00:43:54.480 |
And usually it turns a grocery store trip into something that's exhausting. 00:43:58.680 |
Even in places with good public transportation, it's just tiring and annoying compared to 00:44:04.440 |
But then there are many hobbies and things that you could otherwise do with a car, whether 00:44:08.320 |
it's taking your pickup truck with a camper in the back out to the lake, going out and 00:44:12.420 |
overlanding in the woods, going out to your favorite surf spot, just driving out on a 00:44:16.820 |
whim out of the city and going and looking at the stars, doing whatever the things are 00:44:23.240 |
Having the ability, again, take your children to the things that they want to do. 00:44:26.880 |
Having a car can be a tremendous lifestyle enhancement. 00:44:32.080 |
It increases the things that you can do and allows you to do those things and access those 00:44:37.560 |
Then of course there are longer term scenarios, right? 00:44:42.760 |
I was particularly aware of this during the COVID pandemic when being on public transportation 00:44:52.560 |
Many places the public transportation was cut due to the decrease in demand and so you 00:44:59.320 |
Then they reduced capacity and then they imposed all kinds of onerous rules about how close 00:45:05.100 |
you could sit to people, what you had to wear over your face, et cetera, to get on public 00:45:12.320 |
For me, having a car is even just a symbol of personal freedom. 00:45:16.440 |
The classic idea of I can go where I want to go, when I want to go, I can do what I 00:45:19.760 |
want to do is really, really important for personal freedom. 00:45:29.360 |
If I ever need to get out of the town where I live for whatever reason, I want to make 00:45:33.260 |
sure that I have a car, that I'm not trying to go and rent a car last minute to get out 00:45:39.160 |
I can load up my family and I can leave from a place that's unsafe for them and go to a 00:45:48.720 |
Secondly, the secret is simply if you can afford a car and you think it enhances your 00:45:54.480 |
lifestyle, get one, get several, get whatever you want. 00:45:58.720 |
Just make sure that you can easily and comfortably afford the car. 00:46:02.720 |
So most of this discourse is directed at those who are just getting started. 00:46:07.600 |
Whether you're just getting started because you are young, whether you're just getting 00:46:11.880 |
started because you suffered a setback and you're kind of starting all over again. 00:46:16.480 |
Well, if you're just getting started, then the car is a big decision. 00:46:21.760 |
One of your goals should be to quickly get your finances to the point where the car is 00:46:25.560 |
not really a decision, where it just really doesn't matter. 00:46:29.240 |
That as far as I'm concerned is one of the great secrets in life, is make your expenses 00:46:34.220 |
at a level where they don't really matter to you. 00:46:37.560 |
So if you'll do that, your life can be very low stress and a lot of it comes down to some 00:46:44.200 |
of these basic decisions of thinking about what's going to happen. 00:46:50.040 |
I remember when I've tried to imagine, maybe someday I'll give you my 10 of them, but I'll 00:46:54.760 |
just give you a couple now of the milestones that matter to me in my wealth building stage. 00:47:03.440 |
When I was younger, I thought certain numbers mattered. 00:47:05.640 |
Okay, if I can only have $100,000, if I can only have a million dollars, if I can only 00:47:14.800 |
The human brain doesn't grasp these intangible things called numbers. 00:47:19.900 |
So what I've found is I've tried to put those numbers or goals into things that are more 00:47:26.140 |
So there was a point in my life in which I would never order a glass of wine with dinner 00:47:32.040 |
And then I reached a point in time in which I said, "I'm always going to order the glass 00:47:35.600 |
If I want to have a glass of wine, I'm not going to worry about this expense." 00:47:41.160 |
Another tangible one was when I reached the point where I didn't care about the price 00:47:47.480 |
And there was a time in my life in which the price of gas was the single biggest impact 00:47:53.260 |
I remember I would go to the gas station, I put $8 in, $13 in, and I would sweat about 00:47:59.120 |
Then I reached the point in my life where the price of gas didn't matter. 00:48:03.080 |
And part of it didn't matter because I built a lifestyle that didn't depend a lot on gas, 00:48:06.200 |
and then part of it just didn't matter because it's just not a big factor in my overall budget. 00:48:13.600 |
Similar stage of getting to the point where the price of a car is no big deal. 00:48:17.540 |
For one guy, he'll go out and sweat and sweat and sweat when thinking about buying a $30,000 00:48:26.240 |
Another guy would go buy a $130,000 car and it's no big deal. 00:48:34.520 |
I haven't gotten to the point where buying a $130,000 car is no big deal, but I'm working 00:48:39.440 |
And that's the goal, to get to the point where even just the purchase of a car or the ownership 00:48:45.000 |
And then you reach another stage where it's even with houses, where, "Get another house, 00:48:52.480 |
But along the way, you can't really short-circuit the process. 00:48:59.120 |
If you don't pay attention to the glass of wine or you don't pay attention to the cost 00:49:03.720 |
of the car at a certain phase of your life, there's a very good chance that you won't 00:49:07.920 |
be able to get to the point where you don't need to worry about the cost of the car or 00:49:13.480 |
You can't short-circuit the wealth-building process. 00:49:17.080 |
Sometimes you can turbocharge your income so quickly that you can go there, but you 00:49:21.760 |
can make it fast, but you can't short-circuit the wealth-building process. 00:49:25.440 |
You have to get enough money growing for you in order for you to genuinely have compound 00:49:30.560 |
interest and other people working for you and your investments working for you for your 00:49:36.040 |
So recognize that this matters, this subject of how to buy a car, this really does matter, 00:49:40.960 |
but it matters at a certain time in your life. 00:49:44.160 |
You want to focus on figuring out where you are in the process of wealth-building. 00:49:48.440 |
And if you're at the beginning stage of wealth-building, again, either because you're young, because 00:49:53.180 |
you've suffered a setback, et cetera, then the car decision is a very important thing 00:50:01.560 |
Then later, at a later stage, the car will cease to be a factor at all in your budget. 00:50:09.520 |
If you're in the getting started stage, then think seriously, can I avoid the car? 00:50:18.000 |
And then if I have to get a car, we'll talk about how much to spend on a car, et cetera, 00:50:22.800 |
but if I have to get a car, how can I minimize the expense and minimize the hassle of this 00:50:33.400 |
When you're very, very broke or very, very poor, then probably the best solution is not 00:50:41.480 |
Then you reach this middle stage of wealth where undoubtedly the car is probably the 00:50:46.020 |
Then you reach a point in wealth in which probably the best solution is not to have 00:50:51.440 |
I again, I get so annoyed by the time and the hassle associated with buying cars. 00:50:59.280 |
And so you reach a time where I love renting cars. 00:51:06.120 |
I have the gold status with a bunch of the rental car agencies. 00:51:11.240 |
And so if you have a good gold status or platinum status with a rental car agency, you fly in, 00:51:19.400 |
in the airport, you walk over to the rental car place. 00:51:29.200 |
You get in, you start the car, you drive out. 00:51:31.840 |
You drive out, you know the car is in good working condition. 00:51:33.960 |
You know it's clean, it's fresh, it's ready to go. 00:51:38.000 |
Go use it for a week, a month, whatever you want to do. 00:51:41.120 |
Then when you're done with the car, you drive back to the airport, you pull in the spot, 00:51:44.800 |
you leave the keys in it and you go get on your airplane. 00:51:51.880 |
Again, the car rental experience, especially in the United States, it happens internationally, 00:51:59.800 |
but especially in the United States, the car rental experience, if you have a premier level 00:52:03.680 |
of membership in one of the agencies, is just wonderful. 00:52:09.840 |
That's the best way to use a car, in my opinion. 00:52:12.240 |
You get all of the good, someone else takes care of all the bad. 00:52:16.000 |
That's not the most cost efficient way to handle a vehicle on the ongoing basis, but 00:52:25.080 |
You go through this curve when you're beginning and broke. 00:52:29.640 |
You want to minimize those and you especially want to minimize those by eliminating them 00:52:34.040 |
Then you get to the point where the car ownership is no big deal. 00:52:36.920 |
Even though you could drive to work, or sorry, ride your bicycle to work, you do that most 00:52:40.440 |
days, but you keep an extra car just for the rainy days. 00:52:42.840 |
Or you have a car just because you want a car and it allows you to go to the mountains 00:52:47.040 |
Then you reach a point in time where you're really rich and yeah, you'll probably still 00:52:50.160 |
keep some cars around, but it becomes a hassle to keep a car in every house and who's going 00:52:54.600 |
to take it and who's going to keep the stuff done and you wind up just renting the car 00:52:59.320 |
because it's a simpler, easier thing for you to do. 00:53:05.600 |
Consider carefully your decision to buy a car because the decision to buy a car will 00:53:09.680 |
make a big difference for you on a long-term basis. 00:53:13.720 |
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