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Hello everybody, it's Sam from Financial Samurai and happy 2021. 00:00:07.860 |
That's not something we should take for granted given all that has happened. 00:00:12.060 |
But I'm still here and hopefully most of you are still here as well. 00:00:16.040 |
We had a really good 2020 in terms of our investments, but in terms of lifestyle, not 00:00:22.340 |
So in this episode, I want to talk about my 2021 forecast for stocks, bonds, the 10 year 00:00:30.520 |
I'm assuming stocks, bonds and real estate makes up a majority of your net worth. 00:00:39.000 |
So let's get started because 2020 was a great year. 00:00:41.800 |
The S&P 500 was up 16% and the Nasdaq was up about 42%. 00:00:47.560 |
I mean, it is crazy how much wealth has been built, at least here in the San Francisco 00:00:52.760 |
I talked to my friends who play softball and a preschool friend of mine is up like a couple 00:00:57.320 |
of hundred thousand dollars because of his Tesla investment. 00:01:00.200 |
And I can't imagine how much people who actually work in tech have made. 00:01:09.600 |
They raised money at an $18 billion valuation at the bottom of 2020. 00:01:14.120 |
And then it IPO at $50 billion and then it doubled to $100 billion. 00:01:18.600 |
And that firm employs several thousand people. 00:01:21.520 |
So it really feels like there's a big dichotomy between the investor class and the non-investor 00:01:27.640 |
And I hope all of you guys listening and reading Financial Samurai are part of the investment 00:01:32.920 |
And if you weren't in the investment class in 2020, that you strategically and confidently 00:01:38.680 |
leg into the market and try to build your wealth through investments. 00:01:45.360 |
I'm doing my best to try to forecast things because I'm putting real money to work, guys. 00:01:50.780 |
Real money to work because it's really meaningful to support my family. 00:01:54.640 |
Now, I'm not just talking jibber jabber and just pontificating for the fun of it. 00:02:02.360 |
I am putting in real money that I have saved, that I've worked hard to create so that I 00:02:08.600 |
can provide a better life for my family and stay free. 00:02:12.120 |
And here's an inside tip for those of you who want to continue listening to this podcast 00:02:20.880 |
At the end of the day, I like to protect my private life. 00:02:24.220 |
So I talk about maybe 25, 30% of the things that I think about and I like to do. 00:02:28.640 |
And the rest, I just respect my family's privacy. 00:02:32.160 |
However, a lot of the things that I do write about are things that are on my mind. 00:02:38.200 |
They are things that I'm actually probably going to do. 00:02:41.120 |
I won't say that I'm doing it exactly, but just know that, let's say, if I'm thinking 00:02:46.080 |
about writing about real estate in 2021, and if I'm bullish, I'm probably going to be buying 00:02:57.860 |
I try to say and write what I believe in and then take action accordingly. 00:03:04.600 |
The 10-year bond yield is the risk-free rate of return. 00:03:07.600 |
And everything, I believe, starts with the 10-year bond yield. 00:03:10.960 |
Once you've made a proper forecast of the 10-year bond yield, you can then proceed to 00:03:15.720 |
So if you've been reading or listening to Financial Samurai since 2009, you know that 00:03:20.640 |
I've consistently believed the 10-year bond yield would stay low or keep going lower. 00:03:26.480 |
America has contained inflation for the most part. 00:03:30.000 |
We've learned from many previous economic cycles. 00:03:33.000 |
We have globalization where inflation or deflation is imported. 00:03:41.440 |
And the Federal Reserve boards around the world are all globally coordinated. 00:03:46.360 |
So with this in mind, I do believe the 10-year bond yield will increase in 2021 back up to 00:04:07.360 |
So I'm talking about going from 0.91% to about 1.25%. 00:04:11.200 |
I don't believe the 10-year bond yield will breach 1.5%. 00:04:17.160 |
Once we take a step function down in rates, it's really hard to move back up due to expectations. 00:04:24.640 |
Once you start lowering taxes, the population expects taxes to be low. 00:04:29.480 |
The smart, smart population will put aside reserves for future tax hikes. 00:04:34.280 |
But it's just one of those things where once you start, it's hard to go back. 00:04:38.720 |
I also believe the aggregate bond market will have a flat year. 00:04:42.240 |
You can see a situation where the aggregate bond market index will be flat by principal 00:04:48.160 |
values going down, but being made up by bond yields. 00:04:52.080 |
It's not going to be an exciting year for bonds, I don't think. 00:04:55.760 |
So therefore, you may want to be trimming your bond positions or just not expecting 00:05:00.840 |
bonds to do much at all for you and for your net worth. 00:05:04.360 |
Now let's move on to my S&P 500 outlook for 2021. 00:05:08.640 |
I believe it's going to go up, but I just don't believe it's going to go up as much 00:05:21.200 |
I said about 23, 2400 on the S&P 500 is going to be the bottom, and that's what happened. 00:05:28.400 |
And so we bought, hopefully you bought, and you held on and you didn't panic too much. 00:05:33.640 |
Now it's obviously easy to panic when things are going down 30% in one month, but hopefully 00:05:38.480 |
that helped give you some kind of confidence. 00:05:41.560 |
On the negative side, I certainly did not expect the rebound to be as quick or as much. 00:05:47.480 |
So as a result, I did not buy enough on the way up. 00:05:50.320 |
For 2021, I expect the S&P 500 to increase by about 8%. 00:05:53.840 |
So that's half the rate of return of 2020 with a year end target price of 4,088, lucky 00:06:02.320 |
If the S&P 500 generates an EPS of $165 a share, that puts valuations at about 25X. 00:06:09.520 |
And 25X is at the historical high over the past about 20 years. 00:06:18.200 |
However, it's about the valuation and about the expected earnings rebound in 2021. 00:06:24.400 |
So 2020, the earnings EPS is going to be about $131 per share. 00:06:30.520 |
We don't know what fourth quarter is yet, but that's the estimate. 00:06:33.140 |
So if you estimate 165 plus earnings per share in 2021, we're talking about 25% plus earnings 00:06:41.860 |
Now, depending on where your estimate is for 2021, it could be as much as a 35% to 40% 00:06:50.720 |
So on a relative basis, 25X with at least 25% earnings growth puts it at a one times 00:06:58.240 |
price to earnings growth ratio, which is somewhat reasonable if the earnings happens. 00:07:04.320 |
It's really interesting and worth noting that about 90% of the S&P 500's market capitalization 00:07:10.360 |
is now based on intangible assets such as research and development, IP and software. 00:07:16.520 |
Therefore you can make an argument that valuation should go up over time because these type 00:07:22.680 |
of businesses have higher operating profit margins and are scalable and are more defensible. 00:07:29.680 |
We all have seen the dichotomy between businesses that were forced to shut down in 2020 and 00:07:35.160 |
businesses that were able to keep on operating in 2020. 00:07:38.680 |
I'm looking at, for example, blog valuations. 00:07:44.560 |
And valuations alone for blogs are up 20% to 50% in 2020. 00:07:50.640 |
Again, because good cash flow, high operating profit margins, and they cannot be shut down. 00:07:56.800 |
So let's put my target price of $4,088 for the S&P 500 in 2021 in perspective. 00:08:03.480 |
Let's look at a couple of Wall Street firms that I know do a pretty good job over time, 00:08:10.040 |
Goldman Sachs has a year end target price of $4,300 and JP Morgan has a year end target 00:08:17.400 |
Specifically JP Morgan's 2021 EPS estimate is for $178 per share. 00:08:29.960 |
I think these guys are forecasting way too high because of three things. 00:08:35.400 |
One, there's a risk of virus mutations that lower the current efficacy rates of existing 00:08:43.000 |
Let's all pray that there's not a new coronavirus that makes our current vaccines impotent. 00:08:48.440 |
Two, the other big risk is that there's a slower than expected vaccine rollout. 00:08:55.520 |
And this will have big consequences on the economic recovery. 00:08:58.960 |
It's probably going to delay the economic recovery from the end of 2021 to 2022 or later. 00:09:04.660 |
At the current rate of the vaccine rollout, it's going to take five to 10 years until 00:09:10.640 |
And a lot of us, including myself, are hoping we reach herd immunity by the end of 2021. 00:09:17.080 |
And the final risk, and it's out there but not certain, is that the Senate goes blue. 00:09:25.320 |
We've seen that one of the Senate seats has turned blue. 00:09:29.040 |
Maybe the other one will, which will create a 50/50 split in the upper house, and which 00:09:33.520 |
means that Kamala Harris, if she becomes vice president, will be the deciding vote. 00:09:38.600 |
So on the negative side for investors, there could be higher regulation, more regulation. 00:09:44.280 |
Maybe I think we should certainly expect to see higher taxes, not only personal income 00:09:51.800 |
Joe Biden said on his campaign trail that that's what he's going to do. 00:09:54.680 |
So if he has power in the Senate or alignment in the Senate, then that's what's going to 00:10:00.560 |
We're going to see more regulation and more taxes. 00:10:02.560 |
On the positive side for investors, we could see more stimulus, right? 00:10:06.760 |
We could see $2,000 stimulus checks to families who make under $150,000 or individuals who 00:10:14.800 |
And we see another round of stimulus checks if needed in the summer of 2021. 00:10:19.800 |
It could be just a hip parade of stimulus checks that someone's going to have to pay 00:10:27.880 |
So whatever happens with the Senate, I think what you're going to see is investors maybe 00:10:35.080 |
They just want the results to be done, just like the presidential election. 00:10:39.760 |
Regardless of who won the presidential election in November 2020, the market just had a relief 00:10:45.400 |
rally because they found out, "Okay, looks like Joe Biden won, so let's just get on with 00:10:51.960 |
It's one of those, "Let's just get on with things" kind of moment, because we know that 00:10:54.660 |
politics doesn't really affect the S&P 500 returns. 00:11:02.560 |
The returns are kind of what they are regardless of who is in power. 00:11:07.680 |
But we do know that when there is gridlock, the returns tend to be better. 00:11:13.640 |
These are the three risk factors to very bullish S&P 500 2021 estimates by Wall Street. 00:11:20.820 |
For me, less bullish, much more pragmatic, but that's just the way I am, especially after 00:11:29.400 |
In terms of sectors that will outperform, I think consumer discretionary financials 00:11:37.200 |
These are the sectors that lag the most because they also got hit the most. 00:11:42.680 |
The yield curve should steepen because rates are going up and it makes lending more profitable. 00:11:50.680 |
And I don't think tech investors should expect a similar type of outperformance as the economy 00:11:55.640 |
I am overweight tech, and I'm probably going to underperform. 00:11:59.360 |
I think there's a 65% chance of big tech underperforming as the economy opens up. 00:12:12.520 |
Now, obviously, it could continue going higher if earnings grow faster than expected. 00:12:17.920 |
But I just think there's going to be a sector rotation. 00:12:21.120 |
And unfortunately for me and other tech investors who've ridden the wave in 2020, there's just 00:12:26.000 |
going to be a rotation into the underperforming sectors. 00:12:29.360 |
I will be investing in the stock market whenever there's a 1% to 2% dip. 00:12:33.120 |
We saw the dip the first day of trading in 2021. 00:12:36.320 |
I put some money to work, but I'm not aggressively investing. 00:12:40.180 |
I will be maxing out the 401k, SEP IRA, Roth IRA for my kids, 529 plans, all that stuff. 00:12:48.240 |
But in terms of big money, it's really hard for me to put big money to work. 00:12:56.160 |
And for you guys, it's up to you guys to decide. 00:12:59.200 |
But again, I only think there's going to be about an 8%, maybe 10% return in the S&P 500 00:13:08.240 |
And that opportunity is in the real estate market for me in 2021. 00:13:12.160 |
The median home price in America went up about 8% to 8.5% in 2020. 00:13:16.720 |
So if you put down 20%, that's a 40% gross return on a 20% down payment. 00:13:22.440 |
This level of growth is simply unsustainable. 00:13:26.060 |
So I think for 2021, the national median growth rate will hover more around 5%. 00:13:32.280 |
5% is the level of growth we've seen more aligned to 2015 and 2017 levels. 00:13:39.480 |
Meanwhile, commercial real estate, I think is really, really interesting. 00:13:43.720 |
I think commercial real estate will start catching up as the economy opens up. 00:13:47.880 |
There should be deals to be had in the hospitality and office space. 00:13:52.320 |
If you are a vulture, you should be looking at these spaces for people who own these properties 00:13:57.320 |
that just cannot hold on until the economy opens. 00:14:04.600 |
People who are over leveraged with hospitality and office space, those are probably the opportunities 00:14:13.440 |
Mortgage rates won't increase by more than 25 basis points on average, if my prediction 00:14:20.480 |
So in other words, instead of getting a 2.75% average 30-year fixed rate mortgage, maybe 00:14:30.480 |
I don't think it's going to go much over 3.25% because I don't think the 10-year bond yield 00:14:37.040 |
So mortgage rates are going to continue to stay low, which is going to continue to be 00:14:44.800 |
I think what's also going to happen is that people who've had huge stock gains will shift 00:14:51.800 |
And I think there's going to be an increase in appetite for cash-flowing rental properties 00:14:55.440 |
given the value of income has gone way up because interest rates have gone way down. 00:15:00.580 |
And this is a constant theme going forward for me. 00:15:03.720 |
It takes a lot more capital to generate the same amount of risk-adjusted income. 00:15:09.280 |
But you're seeing rental properties, they haven't grown nearly as much as the increase 00:15:17.800 |
Once you've made huge principal gains, especially gains that you didn't expect, I think most 00:15:21.700 |
of us did not expect these type of stock gains, equity gains in 2020, you want to convert 00:15:27.400 |
some of these gains into a steady income stream or into real assets. 00:15:31.520 |
If you follow the strategy, I think you're going to build a lot of wealth going forward 00:15:37.320 |
and you're going to be able to protect a lot of that wealth going forward. 00:15:41.240 |
So again, the opportunity in real estate lies in buying hospitality, office, and also multifamily 00:15:49.880 |
You really want to gain that cash flow because imagine earning a rental increase and a principal 00:15:59.200 |
And I think that's what's going to happen as the market gets better, stronger, and everything 00:16:04.320 |
Further, strategically, I like buying real estate where there is the biggest difference 00:16:08.360 |
in company share price performance and local real estate price performance. 00:16:13.260 |
For example, the NASDAQ closed up 42% in 2020. 00:16:16.640 |
Therefore, you want to buy real estate in places like the San Francisco Bay Area and 00:16:20.640 |
Seattle where many of the NASDAQ companies are located. 00:16:24.200 |
The returns on Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet, Facebook, which account for about 25% of the 00:16:31.840 |
S&P 500 now, were so massive and they employ hundreds of thousands of people. 00:16:38.840 |
You just talk to the people who live in these areas. 00:16:41.040 |
They're like, "Yeah, we're looking at buying a bigger house. 00:16:44.880 |
We're going to get a second house, yada, yada, yada." 00:16:50.480 |
I talked to my softball friends, my friends from tennis. 00:16:54.720 |
People are putting their money to work and they're thinking to themselves, "I just had 00:17:02.720 |
And that's why we're expecting 25% plus earnings rebounds in 2021 and beyond, because people 00:17:09.200 |
have pent up savings and huge windfalls to spend. 00:17:13.200 |
I also believe big city real estate will make a nice comeback in the second half of 2021 00:17:19.440 |
Therefore, you want to strategically buy before the comeback is really evident. 00:17:23.480 |
One of the great things about being in San Francisco since 2001 is that I've seen the 00:17:29.120 |
herd come back by 2003 after the first 2000.com crash and by 2012 after the 2008 and 2009 00:17:39.680 |
The herd always waits for the green light, always, at least in these previous cycles. 00:17:49.760 |
We want to see things go up 50%, 100% first before we start putting our money to work. 00:17:56.160 |
But the savvy investor, the one who's willing to take a little bit more risk or at least 00:18:00.960 |
strategically leg in before there's a green light, tends to make the most amount of money 00:18:07.420 |
At the same time, I continue to believe in investing in the heartland of America. 00:18:12.080 |
Not only is there a fanning out within cities to save on living costs, I saved 40% on my 00:18:17.800 |
living costs by just moving three miles west in 2014 in San Francisco. 00:18:23.100 |
There's also a fanning out across the country thanks to technology and the permanent acceptance 00:18:32.100 |
So you want to look at obviously the 18-hour cities. 00:18:35.940 |
Austin is getting all the publicity, but then there's Miami, right, getting a lot of the 00:18:42.320 |
It's kind of nuts, but this is just the herd looking at where else things are going. 00:18:48.440 |
Remember, we've been talking about that since 2014 and 2017 here on Financial Samurai, and 00:18:56.160 |
So if you're a listener and you're a reader, it's about practicing, predicting the future, 00:19:02.680 |
You're obviously not going to get it right all the time, but just think about where things 00:19:07.800 |
And I think heartland of America real estate is obviously going to be a beneficiary of 00:19:15.320 |
All right, so we've talked about stocks, bonds, the 10-year bond yield, and real estate. 00:19:21.980 |
So what we haven't talked about, which is going to be really important, at least starting 00:19:25.440 |
in the second half or the middle of 2021, is inflation. 00:19:30.160 |
The discussion about inflation is really going to pick up steam, especially if the Fed stays 00:19:34.920 |
accommodative and stocks and real estate continue to go up. 00:19:38.960 |
Let's say stocks and real estate are up another 5 plus percent by June 2021. 00:19:44.240 |
Undoubtedly, we're going to talk about inflation. 00:19:47.880 |
And when we talk about inflation, we talk about an eroding purchasing power of the dollar. 00:19:54.160 |
We talk about the K-shaped recovery some more where people are getting left behind. 00:19:59.680 |
We'll talk about the job market, how it's heating up. 00:20:02.920 |
And ultimately, we'll talk about why the Federal Reserve will probably have to raise interest 00:20:08.760 |
Again, this is if everything is going fine and dandy, everything is going up, and so 00:20:14.400 |
So inflation is something that is too powerful of a force to combat. 00:20:17.600 |
You always want to at least get neutral inflation. 00:20:20.800 |
You get neutral inflation by investing in stocks and in real estate. 00:20:25.480 |
So in terms of real estate, you want to at least own your primary residence. 00:20:29.120 |
This way, you can at least ride the inflation wave up and down, up and down. 00:20:34.000 |
You're enjoying, you're appreciating asset, hopefully. 00:20:36.660 |
It's a wonderful combination, which is why I like real estate the most, or at least I 00:20:43.080 |
But in an inflationary environment, what you really need to do is go long real estate by 00:20:49.060 |
This way, you can benefit from capital appreciation and rental appreciation. 00:20:53.880 |
And you can benefit by collecting those rents or selling off your real estate that has appreciation. 00:21:02.520 |
And then if you go and rent, then you become a price taker, not a price dictator. 00:21:10.060 |
I think with a 75% probability, 2021 should be a profitable year for stocks and real estate. 00:21:17.440 |
And if something bad happens, you know something bad is going to happen. 00:21:20.760 |
You know we're going to have 5%, 10% corrections here and there, because valuations are expensive. 00:21:28.320 |
Everybody seems to be really, really optimistic about the future. 00:21:32.100 |
So if something bad happens, you know we can count on Janet Yellen, the Federal Reserve 00:21:39.400 |
There's no way they can't bail us out, since they just got into power. 00:21:43.320 |
And once you get power, you start getting addicted to power. 00:21:47.040 |
And you want to hold on to that power as much as possible. 00:21:50.720 |
So I believe the government is going to look out for us. 00:21:55.320 |
I also think there is a massive amount of savings that is ready to be unleashed. 00:22:02.680 |
Do you have a lot of savings now, more than last year? 00:22:09.040 |
Ask your friends and colleagues whether they've got large cash buffers. 00:22:13.360 |
Chances are high, and they probably do, because the national savings rate has been elevated 00:22:19.160 |
You saw the savings rate go up to like 33% in April 2020. 00:22:23.880 |
I mean, it's been coming down, but it's still much higher than the national average before 00:22:30.640 |
So this unleashing of savings is really going to be instrumental for the 25% plus S&P 500 00:22:37.120 |
corporate earnings rebound, and for real estate going forward. 00:22:40.720 |
I know personally, I have a goal of spending at least one month in Oahu at the end of 2021 00:22:49.080 |
I'm going to spend whatever it is to try to catch up on a life missed in 2020. 00:23:06.760 |
But that also means there's a 25% chance that stocks and real estate have a bad year and 00:23:12.640 |
Therefore, don't over leverage yourself, please. 00:23:16.000 |
Don't go crazy like we've seen in previous bubbles or really bullish times like 1999. 00:23:22.240 |
Please don't go on too much margin and overextend yourself. 00:23:27.560 |
If you enjoyed this podcast, I'd love a positive review, maybe some commentary to keep me motivated. 00:23:33.720 |
I realized that I haven't done one in over a month. 00:23:38.160 |
And it's because there's just other things to do. 00:23:41.080 |
And your feedback, your positive feedback will keep me motivated. 00:23:44.040 |
And I'm gonna try to get my wife on and we're gonna talk about the future, hopefully in