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a show dedicated to providing you with the knowledge, 00:00:44.380 |
about why you probably shouldn't leave your home country, 00:00:48.580 |
why you should probably stay put where you are. 00:00:54.920 |
I dedicated the last 20 minutes of that podcast 00:00:58.020 |
to simply sharing with you in a rather casual way 00:01:02.820 |
about the United States of America, where I currently am. 00:01:05.520 |
Haven't been back in a while, but here I am right now 00:01:16.400 |
And so if you wanna hear some of those things, 00:01:21.280 |
However, I did hear from a number of listeners 00:01:25.840 |
And I realized in thinking about their responses 00:01:36.260 |
Anybody who's listened to Radical Personal Finance 00:01:42.100 |
about how leaving can often solve problems better 00:01:49.360 |
And this is true on the micro level and on the macro level. 00:01:54.480 |
When I observe the problems that people get themselves into, 00:01:59.480 |
I often see how if somebody would just train themselves 00:02:03.300 |
to walk away, either quite literally or figuratively, 00:02:13.340 |
they can avoid the vast majority of long-term problems 00:02:24.380 |
And for me, while it was difficult when I was younger, 00:02:28.780 |
because I had some of the youthful macho zeal to say, 00:02:34.420 |
I have since realized that there have been many times 00:02:43.200 |
problem situations and I've avoided situations 00:02:50.320 |
that affect many of us, and you think about leaving 00:03:06.220 |
one of the things that you can do is simply leave. 00:03:10.460 |
You can walk away from the pushing and shoving 00:03:16.180 |
You can quit the school, move to another school. 00:03:30.780 |
or something like that, you can always turn around 00:03:32.620 |
and walk away, and if you discipline yourself 00:04:00.700 |
by Wes Denham and, I forget his co-author's name, 00:04:10.660 |
and as I was rereading it, I was just struck again 00:04:19.860 |
talks about altercations, domestic violence altercations, 00:04:24.860 |
and quite literally, he talks about how there are some people 00:04:30.020 |
who often get involved in domestic violence complaints 00:04:33.300 |
and some people who don't, but his advice very clearly 00:04:39.300 |
your loved one is yelling at you, there's raised voices, 00:04:45.780 |
have been called, and you must immediately leave. 00:04:49.460 |
You must terminate contact and you must walk out the door. 00:04:53.740 |
Walk away, go somewhere else, and solve it from a distance. 00:05:02.880 |
when you think about people who get in trouble, right, 00:05:08.660 |
of allegations of violence, if they had simply followed 00:05:11.460 |
that advice to leave, things would have been better, right? 00:05:17.460 |
For example, if I wanna stay faithful to my wife, 00:05:20.700 |
Well, I need to train myself that if I'm ever 00:05:28.900 |
that wouldn't result in my being faithful to my wife, 00:05:46.660 |
Maybe there's something here where, you know, 00:05:48.940 |
this probably isn't gonna work out for the long term. 00:05:51.180 |
Whatever it is, oftentimes you can simply leave. 00:06:03.300 |
Well, the best thing to do is avoid the mistreatment 00:06:18.380 |
Nobody's committing any kind of criminal acts. 00:06:23.840 |
but there's just, there's not a lot of positive things 00:06:27.780 |
Well, one of the best things you can do is simply leave 00:06:50.880 |
that should be recognized and considered seriously 00:06:58.760 |
And if you're accustomed to thinking that way, 00:07:00.120 |
you probably say, well, duh, Josh, well, we know that. 00:07:08.360 |
And often it's those who are in the most difficult 00:07:10.920 |
of circumstances because there are all kinds of reasons 00:07:12.800 |
why they can't leave or why they think they can't leave. 00:07:15.720 |
Meanwhile, you watch your children being around people 00:07:20.600 |
You watch your family being surrounded by circumstances 00:07:26.000 |
And you think, well, I can't leave because, because, because. 00:07:30.480 |
And of course, I've expanded this significantly 00:07:38.320 |
If you don't like the way that you're being treated 00:07:42.360 |
you should consider leaving and moving to a different town. 00:07:45.440 |
If you don't like the way that your state is treating you, 00:07:48.040 |
you should consider leaving and moving to a different state. 00:07:51.400 |
Why sit there in a place that's mistreating you 00:07:56.320 |
and be abused when you have the choice to lawfully, 00:08:01.320 |
peacefully, voluntarily pick up and go somewhere else? 00:08:08.200 |
I'm gonna fight, I'm gonna make it better, right? 00:08:19.840 |
with the legal victory, there are dozens of people 00:08:23.200 |
who just simply had their lives slowly destroyed 00:08:34.400 |
You should be very thoughtful about what you actually do 00:08:50.000 |
And this is one of those things that you can continually do. 00:08:53.120 |
Again, better job, better town, better house, better country. 00:08:58.120 |
There are lots and lots of countries around the world 00:09:16.240 |
Let's say that you need 24-hour nursing care. 00:09:18.840 |
Well, if you live in a place with high cost of nursing care, 00:09:33.360 |
Well, if you leave and you go to another country 00:09:35.880 |
where you can hire qualified nurses for less, 00:09:39.200 |
you may be able to get a better quality of care 00:09:51.160 |
I could go on for 20 minutes with good examples, 00:10:03.280 |
in many circumstances, measurably improve your life, 00:10:11.160 |
Anytime you leave and go from one place to another place, 00:10:25.320 |
might be able to end the current round of bullying 00:10:28.560 |
by leaving one place and going somewhere else. 00:10:32.840 |
But they'll have to learn a whole new school, 00:10:37.760 |
a whole new social system, a whole new set of rules, 00:11:03.840 |
and it's another thing to simply be prepared to leave. 00:11:08.200 |
I frequently find myself consulting with people, 00:11:12.680 |
and in my courses that I teach on some of these subjects, 00:11:17.280 |
if you will simply prepare yourself to leave, 00:11:33.880 |
I did not have the personal infrastructure in place 00:11:40.200 |
I didn't have another country I could move to. 00:11:42.920 |
I didn't have another country I could go and work in. 00:11:48.200 |
to where I could get at it in another country. 00:12:00.480 |
Now, there are worse places in the world to be stuck, 00:12:04.880 |
And I was stuck, quite literally, in the United States. 00:12:09.400 |
to put in place an appropriate infrastructure 00:12:11.680 |
to where as now I can choose from a handful of places 00:12:15.280 |
all around the world where I can go and I can live, 00:12:27.120 |
I now look at the United States with a different attitude, 00:12:36.320 |
the things that are good about the United States, 00:12:47.120 |
in small town Indiana and lives in Miami, Florida now. 00:12:51.440 |
And he is very much looking forward to going back 00:12:54.680 |
to his small town in Indiana for the 4th of July. 00:13:02.640 |
And now he really appreciates it for what it is. 00:13:05.760 |
Because he's not stuck in that small town in Indiana, 00:13:09.640 |
he can appreciate the small town for what it is 00:13:19.400 |
so that you know you can leave at any point in time, 00:13:23.200 |
and if you'll even make it so that you have good options 00:13:29.600 |
listen, do you have a home in another country? 00:13:37.480 |
Do you have a residence permit or a citizenship? 00:13:42.640 |
Do you have a home that you could go to that you know, 00:13:46.200 |
a place that you're familiar with and you're accustomed to 00:13:48.680 |
and you can get around, you know how to live there. 00:13:51.280 |
If you have those things and you maintain those things, 00:13:54.080 |
then you may or may not actually have to do it, 00:14:12.000 |
and committing to it can set you back significantly in life. 00:14:18.560 |
And the older that you get, the bigger the cost is. 00:14:23.560 |
The cost for, you know, a young man or woman, a teenager, 00:14:29.600 |
the cost for that person to leave and go somewhere new 00:14:35.400 |
Especially if they don't have a developed family network 00:14:40.400 |
or friend network or something that they can tap into, 00:14:44.840 |
But for someone who's 30 years old, 40 years old, 00:14:47.760 |
50 years old, the cost of leaving and going to another place 00:15:07.440 |
The obvious human cost that I think most people 00:15:11.520 |
are tuned into would simply be the cost on your social life, 00:15:31.840 |
just because of a certain geographical feature. 00:15:40.000 |
You can have great surf in many places all around the world. 00:15:46.500 |
Those factors alone are not enough of a reason 00:15:59.300 |
I've never actually met someone who lives in a ski town 00:16:13.560 |
The same can be applied to almost any activity. 00:16:16.080 |
And so, while I think you should consider those things, 00:16:19.600 |
realistically, you can do those things in many places 00:16:22.960 |
or you can fit them into your life in many ways. 00:16:32.840 |
I wanna, I don't know, shoot my rifle off my back porch. 00:16:35.960 |
Okay, well, how much are you actually gonna do that? 00:16:38.600 |
There are things that are very important to people, right? 00:16:47.720 |
And each of us will have our own set of criteria. 00:16:58.720 |
I want a certain kind of nightlife available to me 00:17:01.280 |
at walking distance from my apartment front door. 00:17:05.420 |
it's the people that are going to most significantly 00:17:20.960 |
And if you wanna be close to your mom and dad, 00:17:28.360 |
I need to get a little farther away from mom and dad. 00:17:31.800 |
Siblings, friends, the people that we like to be with 00:17:43.040 |
that you have to be near these specific people 00:17:48.040 |
in order for you to have a fulfilling social life. 00:17:52.500 |
You can build a fulfilling social life afresh 00:17:56.680 |
But there's something about those long-term relationships 00:18:08.960 |
that you can truly, genuinely be yourself around, 00:18:12.080 |
when you can truly, genuinely feel comfortable, 00:18:27.480 |
it's also potentially valuable to your children. 00:18:38.560 |
can make a tremendous difference in their life 00:18:41.040 |
and in their sense of stability and sense of security. 00:18:48.860 |
I always thought that it would be really fun to be homeless. 00:18:57.040 |
I think about what it would be like to be homeless, 00:18:58.880 |
and I read books and stories about homeless people, 00:19:10.200 |
there's a big difference between the interest of it 00:19:13.640 |
While it's fun to think about sleeping on the street, 00:19:16.280 |
the actual experience of sleeping on the street 00:19:35.120 |
to be someone who didn't know literally dozens of people 00:19:39.440 |
where you could feel totally comfortable and safe 00:19:43.400 |
showing up unannounced, knocking on their door, 00:19:52.920 |
That's powerful in terms of a psychological profile 00:20:04.100 |
Now, unfortunately, there are many people in the world 00:20:07.800 |
But if you have that, and then you just have this knowing, 00:20:12.760 |
this knowledge that you never had to go out and acquire, 00:20:20.880 |
my dad's friend blah, blah, blah lives over there, 00:20:23.960 |
so-and-so that I knew from high school lives there, 00:20:33.080 |
And this is my second category, is this network. 00:20:37.940 |
families, friends, but the network that you have in a place 00:20:48.320 |
You're arrested by the police, you're in prison. 00:20:59.100 |
the appropriate processes working to get you out? 00:21:06.760 |
that person says, oh, I need to call so-and-so 00:21:11.160 |
they'll give me advice on who I need to call. 00:21:13.360 |
We don't have any money, but I know so-and-so has money, 00:21:31.660 |
about not having a job, because if I needed money, 00:21:36.220 |
I can pull out my phone and I can call quite literally 00:21:42.900 |
would take my call, and would make phone calls for me 00:21:48.740 |
They would say, well, Joshua, I don't have work 00:21:51.980 |
for you right now, but let me call a few of my friends 00:21:56.600 |
Again, that's a powerful benefit of having stability, 00:22:06.980 |
where the network is how you get things done. 00:22:17.020 |
in which the network makes the difference for you. 00:22:20.520 |
The good old boys' network is pivotal to long-term success. 00:22:25.580 |
You have to know how to tap into the appropriate network. 00:22:34.360 |
If you don't know that, you're gonna be out of luck. 00:22:38.800 |
But there's also a sense in which you don't need 00:22:41.920 |
that stuff to survive, because the United States 00:22:45.240 |
is a very, it's a merit-focused society, a meritocracy, 00:22:56.580 |
If you need to go and get a driver's license, 00:22:58.200 |
you just go to the driver's license DMV and get it done. 00:23:04.800 |
you just go to the website and open the company. 00:23:06.660 |
You don't have to know somebody in government 00:23:12.700 |
And so if you leave the place where you have the network 00:23:20.780 |
you can often find yourself incredibly stymied, 00:23:25.380 |
I wanna open my company, but I need this permission, 00:23:28.520 |
and I've submitted the application four times 00:23:30.580 |
to the government office, and nothing gets done. 00:23:33.340 |
And then all of a sudden, you connect with the right person, 00:23:35.260 |
and they say, oh, well, hold on a second, let me call, 00:23:38.380 |
makes the proper introduction, and all of a sudden, 00:23:40.100 |
your paper gets moved to the front of the line, 00:23:44.560 |
So you wanna be very careful before you give that up. 00:23:50.780 |
I think this is the single biggest cost to leaving a place. 00:24:07.100 |
and you ask them to really think about their life, 00:24:25.180 |
or I know who I can call if I need a trusted plumber. 00:25:02.720 |
You know, here's what I need, reach so-and-so, 00:25:17.200 |
to leaving is a sense of simply knowing how things work, 00:25:28.640 |
On almost every level, in almost every society, 00:25:33.720 |
there is a culture of the way things are done. 00:25:37.720 |
In some places, you have a very direct culture. 00:26:03.880 |
we just expect them to say fine and get to business. 00:26:06.040 |
And so then having spent so much of my life on the phone, 00:26:11.880 |
And so I say, "Howdy, you know, bump and go to business." 00:26:14.920 |
And there's this like awkward thing where I realize 00:26:19.280 |
You know, I'm approaching this with the US American 00:26:27.080 |
but I don't wanna engage in these pleasantries. 00:26:37.080 |
And almost everything from how you greet somebody 00:26:48.160 |
or do you get it from a plastic bag on the shelf? 00:26:50.840 |
How many times do you kiss someone on the cheek 00:26:58.000 |
These little things are just the tip of the iceberg 00:27:00.880 |
in terms of understanding how things are done, 00:27:06.600 |
understanding, well, what level of obsequiousness 00:27:09.840 |
do I need to display to this government agent 00:27:28.960 |
And so you wanna make sure that you have an understanding 00:27:34.240 |
And this is where, if you're young and you're adapt, 00:27:47.800 |
if you're old and successful and established, 00:27:53.560 |
I'm going right back to the beginning, right? 00:27:58.040 |
And that can be quite frustrating to you, so be aware of it. 00:28:01.000 |
Don't expect to easily go from where you know 00:28:04.480 |
how everything's done, you know how it works, 00:28:06.880 |
even if you don't like it, at least you know how it works, 00:28:10.480 |
to a place where you don't and expect that to be easy. 00:28:21.760 |
It's very, in my experience, difficult and time-consuming 00:28:33.800 |
And there is a major, major element of time needed 00:28:45.920 |
For example, if you are from the state of Pennsylvania 00:29:11.520 |
or a big yellow Ryder truck, or maybe a budget truck, right? 00:29:23.040 |
You know that when I move from Pennsylvania to Indiana, 00:29:48.180 |
Then you know I need to change my driver's license. 00:29:50.400 |
I need to change everything on the utilities. 00:29:54.440 |
of administrative work, you can have everything done. 00:30:04.920 |
You don't have to go and deal with a work permit. 00:30:26.240 |
What's the name of the DMV in Mexican Spanish? 00:30:38.420 |
Is it a government company or is it a local company? 00:30:49.040 |
Now you can work it out, right, with the right fixer. 00:30:51.640 |
Maybe you have an attorney who tells you, oh, do this. 00:30:55.600 |
But if you show up and you don't know anybody, 00:31:03.560 |
It can take, I mean, can take quite literally months. 00:31:11.480 |
over the past few years that because of coronavirus 00:31:15.120 |
wound up taking months, months and months and months. 00:31:19.000 |
And I had all of my T's crossed, all my I's dotted, 00:31:24.060 |
And so by the time I had finished the whole deal, right, 00:31:29.160 |
got my residency card, got my driver's license, 00:31:34.960 |
I had a huge amount of time invested into it. 00:31:38.720 |
I went back to the government offices countless times. 00:31:41.480 |
In hindsight, I promised myself, I'm not doing that again. 00:32:07.280 |
in this totally new place trying to set this stuff up. 00:32:20.800 |
Okay, you are going to spend a lot more money 00:32:48.720 |
But you're gonna spend more money on everything 00:32:53.520 |
until you figure out how to go, how to go and do it. 00:32:58.080 |
Well, you're gonna get the gringo pricing on the car. 00:33:04.940 |
You don't have that intuition that you have in other things. 00:33:13.400 |
When you, insurance, well, how do I get quotes on insurance? 00:33:19.240 |
Where do I go to get my kind of groceries that I want? 00:33:29.640 |
Where do I go to get new curtains for the house? 00:33:44.000 |
And so you spend a lot of money figuring that stuff out. 00:33:58.640 |
and then he brings them in with us when he flies in. 00:34:06.840 |
is to not worry about being frugal in the beginning, right? 00:34:22.720 |
Just you're gonna pay a lot more money in the beginning. 00:34:40.400 |
And so I think you gotta give yourself some permission 00:34:42.840 |
to just recognize that that's gonna be the case, 00:34:45.800 |
and then make sure you have some money saved. 00:34:53.480 |
has experienced how expensive it winds up being 00:34:56.120 |
because of all the costs that you didn't factor in. 00:35:01.680 |
and you gotta figure out where your new stores are 00:35:10.340 |
And it is a big, it does make a big difference. 00:35:20.720 |
Now, culture shock is a somewhat ambiguous term. 00:35:25.440 |
I'll tell you how I have experienced culture shock. 00:35:28.000 |
It's not for me a specific sense of being shocked 00:35:36.760 |
I personally am not that surprised by most things. 00:35:40.480 |
Like, okay, here, we don't have sit-on-them toilet seats. 00:35:53.640 |
Here, we put lots of hot sauce and everything is spicy. 00:35:58.600 |
Where how I've experienced a lot of culture shock 00:36:06.480 |
Now, that's interesting because I've generally been 00:36:22.880 |
This is one of the places where, in my opinion, 00:36:30.940 |
The United States is the most welcoming place 00:36:34.660 |
I have ever been to foreigners and to foreign cultures. 00:36:39.660 |
You can assimilate into the American culture so quickly 00:36:46.320 |
and Americans will accept you no matter where you're from. 00:36:51.520 |
And it doesn't mean they'll ignore the fact that, 00:36:59.420 |
There's not a culture, not a country, not an ethnicity, 00:37:02.440 |
not a color of skin that is not easily accepted 00:37:13.960 |
that you'll never find someone saying to you, 00:37:20.600 |
And you'll never find someone who's surprised 00:37:28.160 |
The most accepting, welcoming country I've ever been to. 00:37:38.080 |
where ethnicity, cultural identity reigns supreme. 00:37:49.340 |
and I find that Asia is the most racist region 00:37:59.880 |
Because on the one hand, I'm very rarely mistreated. 00:38:17.160 |
I will never, no matter how perfect my Chinese, 00:38:22.720 |
And this is similar in many countries in the world. 00:38:34.980 |
It's hard to be the guy who will never fit in. 00:38:46.020 |
people have wandered around, they've moved from here, 00:38:48.800 |
moved to there, and they have not fit in, right? 00:38:59.920 |
And I think that you should be just thoughtful about it. 00:39:06.360 |
that if you do go somewhere, that you go to a place 00:39:08.900 |
where you feel like, maybe I'll never be perfectly accepted. 00:39:19.480 |
for places that are very foreigner-friendly, right? 00:39:22.440 |
A Dubai, somewhere that's super international 00:39:26.120 |
and virtually nobody is from here, but we're all here, right? 00:39:36.400 |
and everything is a little bit more easygoing. 00:39:55.480 |
I strongly advise against moving outside of your country. 00:40:16.760 |
and drive to Mexico City and try to make it there. 00:40:22.800 |
You probably, especially in a time of crisis, 00:40:29.720 |
the ability to, the right, the legal right to work, 00:40:39.060 |
I didn't even talk about language difficulties 00:40:44.360 |
that's a different language than your home language. 00:40:48.560 |
staying in the majority of those circumstances. 00:40:57.720 |
What are the issues that could affect you, right? 00:40:59.640 |
You can have genuinely national level issues. 00:41:02.700 |
You could have a national political crisis, right? 00:41:05.520 |
You could be somebody who is facing persecution. 00:41:11.160 |
In a certain country, it can be political persecution, 00:41:23.640 |
you know, you're accused of committing some crime. 00:41:29.360 |
you're not morally responsible for something, 00:41:30.880 |
but you are in legal trouble, there's warrants out for you. 00:41:35.720 |
is either by dealing with it head on or by leaving. 00:41:45.120 |
thing that just makes life really difficult, right? 00:41:48.120 |
Maybe, I have a friend of mine recently got a DUI, right? 00:41:56.280 |
Well, why are you gonna sit here in the United States 00:42:01.720 |
and pay thousands and thousands of dollars in Uber fees 00:42:04.360 |
when you can hop on an airplane and go to London 00:42:22.080 |
There could be an economic crisis in the currency, right? 00:42:37.040 |
is your simplest and best tool to solve that. 00:42:45.120 |
It can go for a few years, and that'll solve many problems. 00:42:55.640 |
as long as you go in with your eyes open, right? 00:42:58.220 |
I don't know where I'm gonna live in the future. 00:43:01.700 |
I do know that I could move back to the United States now 00:43:07.480 |
much more contentedly than I could have a few years ago. 00:43:13.260 |
I'm aware of the cost to my personal network. 00:43:25.360 |
Will my children have that same sense of security 00:43:28.640 |
if I'm traveling a lot or if I'm not in my hometown? 00:43:32.280 |
Will they have that same sense of security that I had? 00:43:35.560 |
If not, am I setting them up to be unstable people? 00:43:38.540 |
Wish there were a handbook that told you all the answers, 00:43:42.160 |
but unfortunately you find as a parent they're not, right? 00:43:44.260 |
You're trying to judge and just think critically about them. 00:44:02.400 |
and leaving your country is gonna be all good. 00:44:08.460 |
of course, I know, Joshua, it wouldn't be all good. 00:44:11.980 |
But I wanna emphasize, don't let anyone tell you 00:44:16.820 |
Don't let anyone just focus on the rosy picture 00:44:22.620 |
There will be some things that you will be able to enjoy 00:44:34.940 |
But there are also gonna be a whole set of things 00:44:45.340 |
I hope that talking through some of these costs, 00:44:56.900 |
Take advantage of the benefits of wherever you live. 00:45:05.460 |
Wherever you are now, make sure that if you recognize, 00:45:08.020 |
hey, my network is gonna make a big difference 00:45:13.100 |
Am I actively and intentionally cultivating a network? 00:45:18.740 |
over the last couple of years for the very first time 00:45:24.380 |
and saying, can I build a network of friends, 00:45:35.060 |
Can you recognize that this network that I build 00:45:41.240 |
Because leaving is still gonna be a powerful tool, 00:45:43.740 |
especially if you need to get away from something rough. 00:45:46.260 |
Maybe you hung out with the wrong sort of crowd, 00:45:56.140 |
Go to a new town, get in with the right sort of crowd, 00:46:06.520 |
you're gonna be fat and a loser like your friends. 00:46:10.140 |
with some buff chads that you meet at the local park. 00:46:32.900 |
But they looked like spitting images of each other. 00:46:35.760 |
They're all tall, all muscular to some extent, 00:46:39.820 |
obviously differences, but none of them were fat. 00:46:55.040 |
You're gonna do the same kinds of things with your friends. 00:47:04.180 |
You can genuinely live better in another place, right? 00:47:15.420 |
So if you're looking for kind of a halfway measure, 00:47:19.080 |
some people don't do well with halfway measures, 00:47:26.980 |
Takes time to figure out where am I gonna live. 00:47:47.100 |
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