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Welcome to Radical Personal Finance, a show dedicated to providing you with the knowledge, 00:00:33.000 |
skills, insight, and encouragement you need to live a rich and meaningful life now while 00:00:38.000 |
building a plan for financial freedom in 10 years or less. My name is Joshua Sheets. I'm 00:00:42.000 |
your host, and today I'm here with Enrique Ramirez Corona. Did I get it right? 00:00:48.000 |
That is correct, Joshua. Thank you very much. 00:00:50.000 |
Welcome, welcome. So we're here today to talk about immigration to Mexico. On Radical Personal 00:00:57.000 |
Finance, I talk quite a lot about internationalization, about the idea of moving to different places, 00:01:04.000 |
going to different places to build the things that are best for you. And I wanted to invite 00:01:08.000 |
you on to talk with me about the topic of immigrating into Mexico. I'm U.S. American. 00:01:14.000 |
Many of my audience is from the United States of America and also from Canada, and I personally 00:01:19.000 |
think that Mexico has a very bright future, especially in the coming decades, and I think 00:01:23.000 |
a lot of people are going to be interested in moving to Mexico. So I'd like to talk with 00:01:27.000 |
you about the process and just get some clarification on what to do, how to do it, how different 00:01:33.000 |
people can move to Mexico and what that process is like. So how long have you been practicing 00:01:39.000 |
Well, I have been practicing immigration law since 2004. I started working for a law firm 00:01:46.000 |
here in San Miguel de Allende. I live in San Miguel de Allende, and there is where my 00:01:51.000 |
law firm has its base. The name of my law firm is San Miguel Legal, and so I started 00:02:00.000 |
Right. And there are lots of expats. San Miguel de Allende is a very popular destination for 00:02:09.000 |
That's right. I mean, we have a very big foreign community, most of them American and 00:02:15.000 |
Canadian people, but for many other countries worldwide. So we have a bunch or a lot of 00:02:22.000 |
people for other countries living and residing in San Miguel de Allende. 00:02:27.000 |
Okay. So I have studied the immigration programs that a lot of countries have, and in my opinion, 00:02:33.000 |
Mexico has an extremely open and simple immigration program. Mexico is very welcoming to immigrants. 00:02:41.000 |
I think that is right, and I think that the Mexican government has been improving the 00:02:45.000 |
law in order to try to make it easier for the foreign people to come to Mexico. They 00:02:51.000 |
are especially one, obviously, that the people that is thinking to retire in Mexico, that 00:02:58.000 |
is thinking to invest in Mexico. And from the past years, and I would say probably since 00:03:06.000 |
2012, Mexican government has been trying to make it easier and faster for people to become 00:03:14.000 |
either temporary or permanent residents of Mexico. 00:03:18.000 |
Okay. So let's pretend that I come to you and I say, "Enrique, I would like to move 00:03:23.000 |
to Mexico. Tell me about the different ways that I, being a U.S. American, could actually 00:03:31.000 |
Okay. First, as you probably already know, as an American, you have the chance to come 00:03:36.000 |
to Mexico initially if you want just as a tourist. There is not any, let's say, previous 00:03:42.000 |
application that you need to do in order to get this tourist visa. You just need, when 00:03:47.000 |
you cross the border, when you arrive to the airport, you will receive a tourist visa valid 00:03:52.000 |
for up to 180 days. That's, let's say, the first option. However, if you want to become 00:03:59.000 |
a temporary or a permanent resident, we have, let's say, several options. To become a 00:04:07.000 |
temporary resident, you will need to start the process normally, and I will explain what 00:04:13.000 |
I'm saying normally, out of Mexico, before a Mexican consulate, meaning that you will 00:04:21.000 |
need to request an appointment with the Mexican consulate that is close to the place where 00:04:27.000 |
you are living, out of Mexico. In order to become a temporary resident, you will need, 00:04:36.000 |
you have some options. One is to prove that you receive Social Security or pension in 00:04:55.000 |
If you have fixed income, a monthly pension, or a fixed payment of at least $1,500, the 00:05:04.000 |
That would be sufficient, and for that purposes, the Mexican consulate will require you to 00:05:09.000 |
prove that you are having this income at least for the past six months. 00:05:15.000 |
So, you will be required to bring your last six bank statements proving or showing that 00:05:20.000 |
you have this income of $1,000 per Social Security or pension of $1,500. 00:05:27.000 |
Now, is earned income sufficient, or does it need to be pension income? 00:05:35.000 |
Okay? We have another option in that regard, that is, if you have a monthly, an account, 00:05:44.000 |
or an investment account where you are holding an average of around $32,000 per month, then 00:05:53.000 |
the Mexican government will consider and will give you a temporary residency. 00:05:57.000 |
In this case, you will need to show that you have had this average investment balance of 00:06:09.000 |
So, if I have an investment account or a bank account that for the last 12 months has had 00:06:15.000 |
more than about $32,000, I can come and say to the Mexican government, "Look, I have enough 00:06:24.000 |
I don't necessarily have any pension income, but I have enough money. 00:06:27.000 |
I'm not going to be a burden on the Mexican government," and they'll give me a temporary 00:06:36.000 |
And what if I'm married and a married couple? 00:06:38.000 |
If you are married and the name of your wife appears also in your bank statements, they 00:06:48.000 |
And children, does the number go up if I have children? 00:06:52.000 |
It is not established in the law for that purpose, but what you can do is you can get 00:06:57.000 |
temporary residency for you, for instance, and probably for your wife if she is part 00:07:04.000 |
And when you come to Mexico and you already get your official temporary residency card, 00:07:10.000 |
you will be able to apply also for your children here in Mexico. 00:07:15.000 |
In that case, you can start the process here in Mexico. 00:07:19.000 |
So my audience, the audience for out-of-personal finance, tends to be fairly wealthy. 00:07:25.000 |
Yes, there are people who are retired who are receiving Social Security income, but 00:07:30.000 |
most, the vast majority of the members of my audience could simply bring a bank statement 00:07:35.000 |
to the Mexican consulate and say, "Look, I have $32,000. 00:07:42.000 |
And so it's my understanding that almost anyone, of course, I'm sure that there are 00:07:48.000 |
some regulations, but just talking about normal people, almost anybody could go to the Mexican 00:07:53.000 |
government, could bring bank statements or proof of wealth, and if they have at least, 00:07:58.000 |
you're saying $32,000, something $30,000 to $40,000 or more, then they could be granted 00:08:08.000 |
Well, in this case, you start basically as a temporary residency. 00:08:14.000 |
And so the process is that somebody needs to go to a Mexican consulate. 00:08:19.000 |
The process is normally, well, there are some telephone numbers and also you can try to 00:08:26.000 |
schedule your appointment with the Mexican consulate. 00:08:29.000 |
At this time that we're speaking, it is a little bit complicated, especially in the 00:08:33.000 |
United States because most of the Mexican consulates are closed or have very reduced 00:08:42.000 |
So you can schedule your appointment by a call or you can also send an email and they 00:08:49.000 |
will schedule or they will give you an appointment. 00:08:52.000 |
Basically, in order to get to be able to apply for your Mexican, for your temporary residency, 00:09:03.000 |
They will request to you an additional US ID or Canadian ID. 00:09:09.000 |
They will request that you fulfill a format with your personal information. 00:09:15.000 |
Obviously, that you bring the bank statement that correspond either for pension or for 00:09:29.000 |
With that, you should be able to get your temporary residency visa. 00:09:34.000 |
And normally, the process takes something around an hour. 00:09:39.000 |
So to review, we've talked about the ability for US Americans or Canadians and really, 00:09:50.000 |
The vast majority of my listeners can simply come to Mexico as tourists and spend often 00:10:00.000 |
And then, well, of course, you wouldn't want to do it for many years. 00:10:02.000 |
Many people will come to Mexico, spend 180 days. 00:10:06.000 |
They'll leave somewhere, go somewhere else, come back and potentially be given another 00:10:13.000 |
And some people, especially in the past, have done that for many years as a tourist. 00:10:17.000 |
But if you want to become an official temporary resident of Mexico, and what that would mean 00:10:23.000 |
is that you can stay here in Mexico for the duration of your temporary residence permit, 00:10:36.000 |
Then you can apply for a temporary residence permit. 00:10:38.000 |
To do that, the simplest way for most of my audience will be to get, I think in English 00:10:47.000 |
Which just simply says you go to the consulate in your country and you say, "Look, I have 00:10:55.000 |
More or less, it would change depending on the exchange rate. 00:10:58.000 |
But you go and you say, "Look, I have $40,000 in a bank account or in an investment account." 00:11:04.000 |
And they say, "Yes, we'll be happy to have you." 00:11:07.000 |
They'll schedule an appointment with the local embassy through the official Mexican website. 00:11:13.000 |
They'll bring their birth certificates, their bank records, marriage certificates sometimes, 00:11:22.000 |
They'll go pay a $39 fee to the local Mexican consulate, and they'll be given a visa to 00:11:31.000 |
What they are going to get is basically a visa stamped in their passport. 00:11:37.000 |
This visa allows you to come to Mexico once within the next 180 days that you got that 00:11:46.000 |
It is very important that people understand that once that they come into Mexico, this 00:11:51.000 |
is valid for one entry, as I mentioned, but once that they come into Mexico, they need 00:11:57.000 |
to complete the process here before the local immigration authority. 00:12:01.000 |
And they just have 30 days, starting from the day that they enter to Mexico, to start 00:12:08.000 |
The process is basically to request to the local immigration office to change the visa 00:12:16.000 |
stamped in your passport for your official temporary residency card. 00:12:22.000 |
Now, generally speaking, so that process is called the canje, right? 00:12:28.000 |
So then the individual could expect to receive a temporary resident card. 00:12:35.500 |
Yeah, the first time is going to be valid for one year. 00:12:39.000 |
After that one year, you are going to be able to renew it for three more years. 00:12:50.000 |
So, the temporary resident visa simply means that when the visa expires, when the physical 00:12:57.000 |
date that's printed on the card expires, if you don't renew it, you will lose your ability 00:13:04.000 |
But, you can live in Mexico with that temporary visa. 00:13:09.000 |
Even if, it's a little bit complex, but even if your card expired, but you are out of the 00:13:16.000 |
country when it expired, you still have 60 days from the expiration date to come to Mexico 00:13:22.000 |
legally with the same card and renew the card for the other three years. 00:13:28.000 |
We have some other cases where if you are here in Mexico and the card expired, you still 00:13:36.000 |
But, the problem is that you will need to bring to the immigration office, just in this 00:13:42.000 |
case, all the documents to prove that you have, that you're receiving pension or social 00:13:48.000 |
security for the amount that we already mentioned, or that you have this balance in your accounts. 00:13:55.000 |
Which is, which make it a little bit complicated. 00:14:00.000 |
So, a temporary resident visa gives you the right to live in Mexico without having to 00:14:09.000 |
So, you can spend all of your time in Mexico. 00:14:10.000 |
But, it doesn't give you the right to get a job in Mexico, right? 00:14:14.000 |
It doesn't give you the right to get a job in Mexico, but you have the chance to apply 00:14:22.000 |
Meaning, once that you have your temporary residency visa, you can request authorization 00:14:28.000 |
to the local immigration office to work in something here in Mexico. 00:14:33.000 |
So, if you found a job with a local person, if I were in San Miguel de Allende and Enrique 00:14:40.000 |
says, "Joshua, I really need you to work for me," I could take a petition to the local 00:14:48.000 |
In this case, this is another way that you can get your temporary residency. 00:14:51.000 |
Let's say that a company in Mexico wants to retain your services. 00:14:55.000 |
So, this company needs to be recorded before the immigration authority, and they are going 00:15:01.000 |
to be, they are going to make an offer to work for you. 00:15:05.000 |
They can submit this offer here before the local immigration authority, and they are 00:15:14.000 |
With that authorization, they will send that authorization to you basically by email, and 00:15:19.000 |
with that document, you can also ask for an appointment with the Mexican consulate and 00:15:26.000 |
prove that you have been already authorized to work in Mexico. 00:15:30.000 |
And as consequence, you can receive a temporary residency with permit to work directly. 00:15:38.000 |
But let's say that you got it because you're balancing your account or because your social 00:15:45.000 |
security or pension, you can also apply for that permit when you are in Mexico already 00:15:53.000 |
So, the first temporary resident visa is issued for 12 months. 00:15:57.000 |
And then you go and you apply for a renewal, and they will probably renew it for three 00:16:04.000 |
Based on the current criteria that they have, yes, they will renew it for three more years. 00:16:10.000 |
Then, you have the ability to continue living in Mexico for those three years. 00:16:18.000 |
At this point in time, when that three-year visa is set to expire, you can go to the immigration 00:16:24.000 |
office and you can ask to be given permanent residency status. 00:16:30.000 |
By law, once you complete these four years as temporary residency, you will pass automatically 00:16:41.000 |
But yes, you will need to, at the expiration of the four year, you will need to go to the 00:16:48.000 |
immigration office and request the change from temporary to permanent. 00:16:53.000 |
So, you don't need to prove anything else other than you have been holding a temporary 00:17:03.000 |
Once you're issued the permanent resident visa, now you don't have to renew it. 00:17:09.000 |
You are a permanent resident, and you can live in Mexico for as long as you want. 00:17:15.000 |
Another advantage that you will have with the permanent residency visa is that, as you 00:17:20.000 |
go to the immigration, you will not need to renew anymore. 00:17:23.000 |
However, if you, for instance, change your address that you notified to the immigration 00:17:29.000 |
office, you will need to inform to them that you changed your address or that you changed 00:17:36.000 |
Those are the kind of things that you will need to notify. 00:17:38.000 |
Also, as a permanent resident, you have the authorization to work in Mexico already. 00:17:46.000 |
You don't need to request a permit to the immigration office. 00:17:49.000 |
You just notify that you are doing or working in this or that. 00:17:54.000 |
So, the important thing about Mexico that we haven't said yet is that, under Mexican 00:18:00.000 |
law, there is not, in order to maintain a residency, there is not a specific physical 00:18:07.000 |
presence requirement that somebody has to be in Mexico in order to maintain their residency, 00:18:13.000 |
either a temporary residence or a permanent residence. 00:18:18.000 |
The Mexican law does not establish any specific time that you need to spend in Mexico in order 00:18:24.000 |
to continue having your temporary or permanent residency. 00:18:28.000 |
So, you can spend a week, one month, or 12 months in Mexico, and you will have the same 00:18:39.000 |
So, if somebody has the idea that, "I think I might want to move to Mexico full-time," 00:18:46.000 |
they can start the process whenever they're ready. 00:18:49.000 |
They can go ahead, they can get their first visa, they can come to Mexico, be issued their 00:18:57.000 |
They don't have to be in Mexico for the next 12 months. 00:19:00.000 |
They could come for a couple of weeks and then leave. 00:19:03.000 |
They can come back one year later, renew for the three-year period. 00:19:08.000 |
They don't have to be in Mexico for three years. 00:19:13.000 |
And then once they have the permanent residency card, they don't have to stay in Mexico in 00:19:23.000 |
And under current law, that permanent residency is good for life, for the life of the person, 00:19:28.000 |
although some states want you to come in every decade or so to take a new picture, right? 00:19:35.000 |
This is why, for most U.S. Americans, I recommend Mexico so highly. 00:19:39.000 |
I think that virtually every U.S. American who thinks they might want to live outside 00:19:44.000 |
the United States should start by getting a residency permit in Mexico. 00:19:49.000 |
I find the Mexican culture very personally pleasing. 00:19:56.000 |
There's a lot of cultural compatibility between Mexicans and U.S. Americans, especially if 00:20:02.000 |
you have any kind of Latino heritage or have friends who are Latinos. 00:20:09.000 |
It's very easy to get to, and Mexico really offers virtually everything. 00:20:15.000 |
In some corner of the country, if you want the big city, you can live in Mexico City 00:20:22.000 |
If you want a small town by the beach, that's there. 00:20:24.000 |
If you want a resort town, it's really wonderful. 00:20:27.000 |
But the opportunity for someone to have this as a place that they can go to live, that 00:20:32.000 |
they can retire, and not to have to maintain those physical presence requirements is really 00:20:37.000 |
powerful, and especially once someone gets to that permanent residence. 00:20:42.000 |
For example, Canada, if you become a permanent resident in Canada, you have to physically 00:20:47.000 |
be present in Canada for two years out of every five in order to maintain your residency 00:20:55.000 |
For somebody who lives full-time in Canada, that's wonderful. 00:20:59.000 |
For somebody who goes to Canada regularly and wants to maintain their residency, that 00:21:03.000 |
can be difficult if they're maintaining a job somewhere else. 00:21:06.000 |
But the Mexican system is much more generous, and I think it's a wonderful system. 00:21:10.000 |
- Yes, I think that, well, since Mexican law does not require to be present in Mexico to 00:21:16.000 |
continue having or enjoying your temporary or permanent residency, it allows you or allows 00:21:22.000 |
the people that they can start this process early, and then they can determine if they 00:21:27.000 |
really want to move to Mexico or not, or how many time they want to spend in each country. 00:21:33.000 |
My only comment in that regard is as far as I understand for Canadian people is that 00:21:38.000 |
normally my clients that are Canadian, they don't want to become permanent because I 00:21:43.000 |
understand that if they become permanent, they will lose the health benefits that the 00:21:50.000 |
So in that case, when they complete or they get or arrive to the fourth year, what they 00:21:57.000 |
do is they're released about the temporary residency, and they need to start the process 00:22:06.000 |
Yeah, with immigration planning, you always need to think about the country that you're 00:22:10.000 |
going to and the country that you're coming from. 00:22:13.000 |
- And there is planning with regard to the country you're going to, and there is planning 00:22:16.000 |
with regard to the country you're going from, and that will be unique for each particular 00:22:22.000 |
Now, is there a way that a U.S. American or a Canadian or a German citizen can become 00:22:34.000 |
When you start your process and you get your temporary residency, as we mentioned, after 00:22:39.000 |
four years, you are going to become permanent resident. 00:22:43.000 |
At that moment and after two years as permanent resident, you have the chance to apply to 00:22:53.000 |
In that case, the only, let's say, in this case, the law already established in that 00:22:59.000 |
regard that if you want to become Mexican, you cannot be out of Mexico for more than 00:23:05.000 |
six months in the last two years before you applied for the Mexican citizenship. 00:23:15.000 |
Meaning, if today you become permanent, 2021, on May 23, you are going to be eligible to 00:23:26.000 |
But in these two years, you should not be out of Mexico more than six months. 00:23:31.000 |
- So, you don't have to have physical presence in Mexico to maintain your permanent residence 00:23:40.000 |
But when and if you go to apply for Mexican citizenship, then during the two years before 00:23:48.000 |
that application, you must have been physically present in Mexico for more than six months 00:23:58.000 |
Well, you cannot be out of Mexico more than six months in both years. 00:24:05.000 |
Meaning, you need to stay in Mexico at least 18 months in those two years. 00:24:17.000 |
What's the distinction between what you're saying and what I'm saying? 00:24:20.000 |
- Yeah, I think the distinction is that in the previous two years before you applied 00:24:25.000 |
to become Mexican, you cannot stay out of Mexico more than six months. 00:24:37.000 |
So, if on January 1, I enter Mexico, and then we go through the full 12 months, and then 00:24:43.000 |
the next 12 months to December 31, I need to have been inside Mexico for at least 18 00:24:55.000 |
Then, if that is satisfied, I can go to the Mexican government, and I can apply for Mexican 00:25:09.000 |
But, yes, normally, there is a language test. 00:25:12.000 |
So, they want to verify that you at least can have a conversation in Spanish. 00:25:17.000 |
It is not that you are 100% bilingual, but that you can... 00:25:21.000 |
- So, maybe a B1 level of language, something like that. 00:25:25.000 |
- There is going to be a test for history of Mexico, and the rest is going to be paperwork 00:25:32.000 |
- That we will need to produce and submit in order to be able to start your process. 00:25:36.000 |
- Is there a criminal background check, an FBI report? 00:25:39.000 |
- Among others, you will need, for instance, obviously, your passport, your birth certificate 00:25:44.000 |
with an apostille, your permanent residency card. 00:25:50.000 |
We will need to show through a report that the immigration office is going to provide 00:25:55.000 |
us that you have not been out of Mexico in the past two years for more than six months. 00:26:02.000 |
There is a local criminal record, okay, saying, obviously, that you don't have any criminal 00:26:11.000 |
- Meaning, local from the state where you are living or you are going to apply for the 00:26:17.000 |
And then, there is no criminal records for the country. 00:26:22.000 |
These criminal records for the country, you can just get it in Mexico City, okay? 00:26:27.000 |
And after that, you fulfill some applications, and that's...you make a payment, and that's 00:26:33.000 |
pretty much the documents that you will need to require...you will need to meet in order 00:26:41.000 |
- And I personally think, it's my opinion, that a Mexican citizenship is an extraordinarily 00:26:50.000 |
The Mexican passport as a travel document is a very powerful travel document. 00:26:55.000 |
The only country in the world that the Mexican travel document doesn't work for as easily 00:27:01.000 |
as some other countries is the United States. 00:27:04.000 |
- Which is frustrating for many Mexicans, but that's the only...well, I don't know if 00:27:09.000 |
That's the only country in the world that looks at a Mexican passport and doesn't give 00:27:17.000 |
That is an advantage to, for example, Canadians can come to the United States without a visa. 00:27:23.000 |
A German citizen can come to the United States using the electronic travel authorization 00:27:28.000 |
system, but a Mexican citizen needs to apply for a visa to travel to the United States. 00:27:33.000 |
- But with the exception of the United States, a Mexican passport is a powerful document 00:27:38.000 |
can vis-a-vis travel to so many countries of the world, visa-free access to Europe, 00:27:43.000 |
and it simply doesn't have a lot of the baggage, a lot of the difficult things that, 00:27:48.000 |
example, a U.S. American passport can bring with it. 00:27:52.000 |
I think, in my opinion, Mexico is not generally regarded as...it's a very neutral country. 00:28:01.000 |
I think that Mexican passport is very powerful, and in my experience that I have been working 00:28:06.000 |
with foreign people for many years, a lot of them wants to become a Mexican citizen 00:28:13.000 |
because they...obviously, they feel in love with the country, they feel comfortable living 00:28:18.000 |
here, and they find convenient also for themselves to have a Mexican passport. 00:28:24.000 |
And Mexico does not have mandatory military service for your children, like some countries do. 00:28:30.000 |
Mexico does impose taxes on Mexican residents living here, but if a Mexican citizen were 00:28:37.000 |
to move back to Canada or back to the United States, then they can become non-tax resident 00:28:46.000 |
- Mexico is not...it's not a particularly overbearing country. 00:28:52.000 |
They don't impose a lot of regulations on their citizens abroad. 00:28:55.000 |
It's a really wonderful place, and it's just a wonderful city, wonderful country to live 00:29:03.000 |
Is there any place...are there any things that people who are working with you for immigration, 00:29:09.000 |
are there any questions that people ask that we haven't covered, or any mistakes that people 00:29:14.000 |
- Well, I think that one...I would like to mention another way to get the temporary residency, 00:29:22.000 |
If you're ready...sometimes people cannot...either they don't have the income for pension or 00:29:30.000 |
Social Security required, or they don't have this balance in their account, but they already 00:29:37.000 |
So if you already own a property in Mexico, you can also apply and get a temporary residency 00:29:44.000 |
The only condition in that regard is that your property worth something around $200,000 00:29:53.000 |
If you can have copy of your deed or title of your property to the consulate, and you 00:29:58.000 |
show that your property worth that amount, then they will also grant to you a temporary 00:30:05.000 |
If you are already in Mexico, and let's say that your wife already hold a temporary or 00:30:14.000 |
permanent residency, you are also...you will be entitled to receive her and start your 00:30:22.000 |
For that purpose, you will need to prove that you are married. 00:30:28.000 |
You will need your marriage certificate with the apostille, but that will allow you to 00:30:37.000 |
- And if you have a Mexican child, you can stay here as a tourist, and if your child 00:30:47.000 |
is born in Mexico, then you are allowed to get...you will get in this case, directly 00:30:56.000 |
So I'm glad you brought that up because that was going to be my next comment. 00:31:00.000 |
Mexico is a Jus Sali country, which means that all children who are born in the sovereign 00:31:14.000 |
- So if my wife were pregnant and we gave birth to a child in Mexican territory, that 00:31:20.000 |
child would automatically qualify for Mexican citizenship from birth. 00:31:25.000 |
- Now, in addition, Mexico follows the doctrine of family reunification. 00:31:33.000 |
- So if I have a Mexican child, I can then go to...as the parent of a Mexican child, 00:31:38.000 |
I can go to the Mexican government and I can request a permanent resident visa from the 00:31:43.000 |
Mexican government, and in virtually all circumstances, it should be granted to my wife and to me 00:31:50.000 |
and to our siblings and to our other children, right? 00:31:55.000 |
Now, is there then a pathway to citizenship if I have that permanent residency visa? 00:32:04.000 |
- Once you get your permanent residency, two years, and you can start the process to become 00:32:14.000 |
My family and I, we have done birth tourism, and with my experience doing that, I think 00:32:20.000 |
it's a really tremendous way to open up new opportunities for your children to give them 00:32:26.000 |
access to the Mexican markets as a citizen, legally able to work, go to school in Mexico. 00:32:32.000 |
For example, I have had Mexican doctors in various parts of the world. 00:32:37.000 |
Mexico has a lot of medical schools, and they're paid for by the government. 00:32:42.000 |
And so somebody can go to Mexican medical school and become a doctor for just a cost 00:32:52.000 |
And that's a powerful option and well-respected in many parts of the world, the Mexican doctors 00:32:58.000 |
And so it's a powerful option, and it also can be a good benefit for me as the parent 00:33:04.000 |
of a Mexican child to have the option now to live in Mexico, to have that permanent 00:33:11.000 |
And back to kind of those options, there are many people who will go and do birth tourism 00:33:15.000 |
in countries like Canada or the United States. 00:33:18.000 |
And no question, there can be benefits to that, right? 00:33:20.000 |
There are many people who want their children to be Canadian or U.S. American. 00:33:24.000 |
But if you are already Canadian or U.S. American, there's very little benefit to your child 00:33:30.000 |
being born inside of Canada or the United States, and there could be a lot of benefit 00:33:36.000 |
And again, with the physical proximity, the fact that a Canadian or U.S. American can 00:33:40.000 |
drive to Mexico, that makes things a lot easier. 00:33:45.000 |
And then even just in terms of the high quality of medical care at a low cost, it's a really 00:33:49.000 |
great option because, you know, I've known people who have gone to Mexico because they 00:33:53.000 |
didn't have insurance, health insurance, and they had a C-section. 00:33:57.000 |
And if you have a C-section delivery of a child in Mexico, the cost may be something 00:34:02.000 |
like a few thousand U.S. dollars, 3,000 U.S. dollars, instead of 15,000 or 30,000 U.S. 00:34:08.000 |
dollars like it is sometimes in the United States. 00:34:11.000 |
And so it can really be a good option that I think people should consider. 00:34:15.000 |
I've recommended to many people if they're having a baby, you should think about having 00:34:19.000 |
- Yeah, well, I think that we have a great health services here in Mexico. 00:34:25.000 |
We cannot complain about the quality of the hospitals and medicals and doctors. 00:34:30.000 |
And the amount that you are going to pay compared with the United States or Canada is going 00:34:39.000 |
So for sure, it's a great advantage for them. 00:34:42.000 |
And in addition, as you explained very well, they are going to have the chance to become 00:34:47.000 |
permanent since their child is going to be born in Mexico. 00:34:52.000 |
Now, the last thing is, from my observation, Mexico seems to be very open to people who 00:34:57.000 |
are fleeing persecution, who are seeking asylum. 00:35:02.000 |
And in the airport itself, right, as you're coming through immigration, the Mexican Immigration 00:35:07.000 |
Department puts a big sign that says, "If you're in danger in your home country, you 00:35:17.000 |
And the Mexican government promises to hear your case. 00:35:20.000 |
They promise that you can come to them and ask for help regardless of your immigration 00:35:24.000 |
status, regardless of whether you're here on a visa or if your visa has lapsed. 00:35:30.000 |
And they even promise free legal aid for people who are coming and applying for a status. 00:35:35.000 |
So for somebody who is facing some kind of persecution, I think Mexico should also be 00:35:45.000 |
As Mexicans, we understand that it's very important to take care of all the people that 00:35:49.000 |
is coming from other countries since even where the Mexican people normally tries to 00:35:56.000 |
come to the United States, many times as illegals. 00:36:00.000 |
So we understand very well that part, and that's why the Mexican government create a 00:36:04.000 |
special authority and a special place where all these people can come and start this process. 00:36:15.000 |
It could take between one year and one year and a half. 00:36:20.000 |
But as soon as they submit this or they start this process in Mexico, they are going to 00:36:29.000 |
And with this visa, they will be considered legally... 00:36:33.000 |
They are going to be legal in Mexico, and they are going to have the chance to even 00:36:38.000 |
get the authorization to work in Mexico while they start the final ruling from this authority 00:36:48.000 |
So I think that this is also a big advantage for people that consider or needs this kind 00:36:55.000 |
And the last question I have is Latin American bureaucracy is legendary. 00:37:03.000 |
One of the challenges of doing business in Latin America is that the law will often say 00:37:12.000 |
this is what's expected, but the reality is often very different. 00:37:16.000 |
It's the same in the United States of America. 00:37:18.000 |
I have friends who have followed every law of immigration law in the United States and 00:37:26.000 |
have been waiting for five, six years in some cases just for an answer from the government 00:37:36.000 |
When you say these timelines, the biggest question is, are these actually realistic? 00:37:41.000 |
So if you say, yes, you can come and do this, are these timelines realistic that you can 00:37:47.000 |
actually get answers quickly from the U.S. government? 00:37:50.000 |
Sorry, from the Mexican government, or you can get business done quickly, or do we have 00:37:55.000 |
to deal with delays of weeks and weeks and months and months and months to get an answer 00:38:01.000 |
I mean, as I mentioned before to you, the immigration authority, the federal government 00:38:05.000 |
has tried to make it as simple as possible for all foreign people. 00:38:10.000 |
What they are trying to do is that people come and invest in Mexico, that you come and 00:38:15.000 |
live in Mexico, because obviously that way you are going to spend also money in Mexico. 00:38:22.000 |
I can tell you that I cannot speak for all the immigration offices in Mexico, but at 00:38:29.000 |
least the ones that we work here in the state of Guanajuato, Querétaro, for instance, that 00:38:35.000 |
If we start your process for the canje that you mentioned to change your visa and your 00:38:40.000 |
passport for your official card, I can tell you that it's going to take a couple of days 00:38:48.000 |
So obviously, provided that we submit all the necessary paperwork and documents. 00:38:54.000 |
So a couple of days and you are going to have your card. 00:38:58.000 |
Obviously, if your card expired and we need to bring additional documents, it's going 00:39:05.000 |
But in general terms, I will say that you can consider between three and five business 00:39:13.000 |
days to get your card and have everything ready. 00:39:18.000 |
So I would just give, you don't have to listen to my kind of closing charge, but I would 00:39:26.000 |
I honestly believe that for virtually, especially any US American and probably Canadian, Mexico 00:39:37.000 |
If not, the number one option should be very high on your list in terms of places to go 00:39:43.000 |
to have a second residency to start that process going. 00:39:48.000 |
Mexico often does not get the press that some other residency programs get. 00:39:52.000 |
For example, Panama gets far more press for their program, their friendly nations visa 00:39:58.000 |
But when I compare the two, Mexico is far better than Panama and Mexico has far more 00:40:05.000 |
I like Panama City, but basically if you want to live in Panama, you have the choice of 00:40:14.000 |
There's a retiree town that's a little bit higher, Boquete, Panama, or you have these 00:40:20.000 |
It doesn't have the size or the diversity that a place like Mexico has. 00:40:27.000 |
It's a huge country with 31 states, I think, here in Mexico. 00:40:32.000 |
31 states here in Mexico with tremendous diversity, biodiversity, economic diversity. 00:40:38.000 |
And yet Mexico has this incredibly generous program that costs virtually nothing to get 00:40:45.000 |
A $39 visa plus some attorney fees, which we'll talk about in a moment if you work with 00:40:55.000 |
Like Panama, if we compare it, for example, to the Panama Friendly Nations Visa, Panama 00:41:05.000 |
You have to start a Panamanian company that you may or may not use. 00:41:08.000 |
You have to put money in the bank that you may or may not want in a Panamanian bank. 00:41:12.000 |
Mexico doesn't have any of these requirements. 00:41:15.000 |
And the Panamanian attorney fees, especially for English-speaking attorneys, are often 00:41:27.000 |
You can drive there from the United States barely, but you've got to go through six borders 00:41:33.000 |
And so I just don't understand, having spent a lot of time thinking and researching and 00:41:38.000 |
working through these options, I understand why U.S. Americans go to Canada. 00:41:42.000 |
I've had Canadian immigration consultants on the show, and I think there's a lot of 00:41:45.000 |
benefits there to go in the direction of Canadian immigration. 00:41:49.000 |
But Canada has some unique benefits and some unique drawbacks. 00:41:52.000 |
And Mexico has a lot more benefits and far fewer drawbacks. 00:42:01.000 |
You're not going to go to Mexico and save tons of money on your income taxes like you 00:42:07.000 |
So that's something you do want to take into account. 00:42:09.000 |
But depending on your earnings and depending on how your affairs are structured, with good 00:42:13.000 |
tax planning, Mexico has just a lot to offer. 00:42:19.000 |
I think that Mexico, as I mentioned several times now, is doing all that we can in order 00:42:26.000 |
to try to welcome any foreign people that is coming to Mexico and that want to live 00:42:34.000 |
The Mexican government tries to give all kinds of facilities so you can spend time in Mexico, 00:42:39.000 |
so you invest in Mexico, so you live in Mexico. 00:42:43.000 |
So as you mentioned, you can drive from the United States to Mexico pretty easy. 00:42:49.000 |
In that regard, and that's important that you know, as a temporary, you have the chance 00:42:55.000 |
to drive completely legal and keep for all the time that you are a temporary residency 00:43:02.000 |
Once that you become permanent resident, you are not allowed to drive a car with U.S. 00:43:08.000 |
You will need to either return your car or sell it. 00:43:11.000 |
So that's, let's say, one advantage also that you can bring your car without any problem 00:43:16.000 |
and it's going to be legal as far as you are legal in the country. 00:43:20.000 |
Additionally, also you have this chance to bring your personal belongings if you want. 00:43:25.000 |
You are going to be free of any taxes if you can prove that this is yours, your personal, 00:43:30.000 |
this is my personal belongings that I used to have in my house in the United States or 00:43:35.000 |
in Canada, I want to bring to Mexico or to ship to Mexico and all those personal belongings 00:43:45.000 |
I think it's a wonderful program and my encouragement is don't wait. 00:43:51.000 |
In the world of immigration law, things change. 00:43:54.000 |
I honestly, personally, I think that the Mexican lack of physical presence requirements is 00:44:01.000 |
I think they'll probably change that law myself just because I think that as more and more 00:44:06.000 |
people, especially many US Americans, are looking to have other options, I think in 00:44:10.000 |
time the Mexican government may face pressure to change that. 00:44:13.000 |
I hope they don't but if you're interested in other residency programs, you should not 00:44:22.000 |
But in terms of the future of a country, I personally believe that one of the metrics 00:44:27.000 |
that you can use to judge the future of a country is based upon how easy is that country 00:44:33.000 |
to get into, whether that's to come in as a tourist or whether it's to come in as a 00:44:42.000 |
I think that you can tell a lot about a country by the way that they treat people that want 00:44:49.000 |
Countries that have stringent border guards where they say, ask lots of questions, are 00:44:54.000 |
very invasive, I think it reflects the culture and the culture being an anti-immigrant culture 00:45:00.000 |
is a culture that doesn't understand that the value of a country is based upon its people. 00:45:06.000 |
The thing that makes a country work is its people and a country that's welcoming to people 00:45:12.000 |
is a country that I think you can see other signs of growth and opportunity. 00:45:17.000 |
So I personally, that's one of the metrics that I use to judge Mexico and say, I think 00:45:21.000 |
that Mexico has a very bright future because you can see very clearly with simply a huge 00:45:26.000 |
sign in the airport by the Mexican immigration authorities saying, it doesn't matter your 00:45:32.000 |
legal status, you can always seek asylum in Mexico. 00:45:36.000 |
That says a lot about the culture of a country. 00:45:39.000 |
Now there can be problems with assimilation and so cultures always have to deal with, 00:45:44.000 |
okay we're welcoming these immigrants but are they able to assimilate into the country. 00:45:48.000 |
But Mexico is such a big country that I think that they can handle many more immigrants 00:45:56.000 |
And so I think that Mexico is going to have a wonderful next couple of decades, is my opinion. 00:46:03.000 |
We appreciate that words and I'm pretty sure as you mentioned, we receive everything, 00:46:08.000 |
everyone in Mexico, we try to be very polite with everyone in Mexico. 00:46:13.000 |
And I think that's one of the reasons that there are a lot of big foreign communities 00:46:19.000 |
in Mexico just like in San Miguel de Allende, Ajijic, Querétaro or many other places in Mexico. 00:46:26.000 |
You can, Mexico is really big and we have a lot of different states, different areas 00:46:33.000 |
that you can choose whatever you want from living in a small city such as San Miguel 00:46:39.000 |
but with a big infrastructure or living in a big city like Querétaro that was one of the, 00:46:47.000 |
that was the state that grow more in the last year or 2019 in North America Latin 00:46:55.000 |
or you can live in the beach or you can enjoy, you know, any, a lot of places in Mexico. 00:47:04.000 |
Okay, Enrique, your website is sanmiguel-legal.com. 00:47:09.000 |
So sanmiguel-legal.com, I'll make sure to leave that information. 00:47:14.000 |
You will work with people and help facilitate all of the immigration options for them. 00:47:20.000 |
It's not required that somebody who wants to immigrate to Mexico work with a lawyer. 00:47:28.000 |
What I would say is having done immigration processes myself, 00:47:33.000 |
I have promised myself that I won't do it anymore from now on. 00:47:36.000 |
I will simply hire lawyers to do the immigration process myself. 00:47:39.000 |
I've tried to save money and I've tried to do it all myself 00:47:43.000 |
and it's just simply not worth it in my opinion. 00:47:47.000 |
So about how much does your law firm charge to work with people on these types of immigration processes that we've talked about? 00:47:57.000 |
- Okay, it will depend of the application that we are doing, but it normally goes from, 00:48:03.000 |
I'm going to speak in U.S. dollars, it goes from $500 to $750 U.S. dollars. 00:48:12.000 |
- We guide you through the whole process, meaning even if you are just thinking that you want to come to Mexico 00:48:19.000 |
and you want to apply for this temporary or permanent residency, 00:48:25.000 |
We can be in contact either by email, by submitting, so whatever you feel more comfortable. 00:48:31.000 |
We are going to make sure that you understand the process. 00:48:35.000 |
When you come to Mexico, we will have pretty much everything ready just to collect your signatures 00:48:41.000 |
and be able to submit your application to the local immigration office as soon as possible 00:48:47.000 |
and to complete your process within the next couple of days so you can just enjoy Mexico. 00:48:53.000 |
So your email address, and again I'll link it in the show notes, but it's Enrique, 00:49:06.000 |
- People can email you directly and probably somewhere in the range of $500 to $750 per person for your fees. 00:49:13.000 |
The Mexican government simply has a $39 visa fee, and there may be other modest charges here and there, but it's not a lot. 00:49:22.000 |
- Yeah, when you request the canje that we mentioned, meaning the change from your visa for your official card, 00:49:27.000 |
there is an additional payment that you need to make to the local immigration office. 00:49:33.000 |
- For a temporary residency is around at this moment $220, and for permanent residency it is around $350. 00:49:47.000 |
So something around $1,000, more or less, about $1,000 per person, somebody could establish temporary residence in Mexico. 00:49:57.000 |
- Yeah, but you were, as I mentioned, we're going to guide you through the whole process from the beginning 00:50:01.000 |
through the moment that you have your card in your hands. 00:50:03.000 |
- And it can be as simple as somebody just simply comes to San Miguel de Allende, 00:50:07.000 |
they come for a week, week and a half, two weeks, you can handle the process, they can enjoy a vacation, 00:50:13.000 |
go with you and your staff to the government offices, and then they have their documents, everything's in order. 00:50:20.000 |
You will just need to come once to my office to sign the applications and documents, 00:50:25.000 |
and then once to the immigration office, but we will take care of the rest. 00:50:30.000 |
I promise that's the best $1,000 you're going to spend versus doing it yourself. 00:50:34.000 |
Even as a fluent Spanish speaker myself, I don't have any problem doing it, but navigating, 00:50:39.000 |
okay, I go here, then I go this, and okay, what's the tramite here, and where do I go, 00:50:43.000 |
it can be difficult and a lawyer smooths everything.