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And in this episode, I want to wish all of you a happy Independence Day, 4th of July. 00:00:09.540 |
And I also want to talk about 10 years of fake retirement later, the most important 00:00:15.280 |
takeaways that I want to share with all of you. 00:00:18.600 |
So back in February 2012, I decided to negotiate a severance to break free from corporate life. 00:00:24.920 |
I had been working in investment banking for 13 years, and at one firm, my last firm for 00:00:30.760 |
11 years, and frankly, I was getting sick of it. 00:00:34.640 |
And by mid June 2012, I was able to negotiate a severance package and collect the last of 00:00:44.840 |
Don't confuse Warn Act pay with getting a severance check. 00:00:49.000 |
Warn Act pay is mandatory pay by the company. 00:00:57.720 |
However, I'm also sad I'll never be able to get those past 10 years back. 00:01:03.000 |
The greater your appreciation of time, the less you will want to waste it. 00:01:07.840 |
So for those of you who want to permanently leave your day job, maybe it's not permanent 00:01:16.160 |
So first of all, why do I use the term fake retirement? 00:01:21.880 |
I consider myself a fake retiree because consistently publishing three to four times a week for 00:01:31.440 |
Even though I enjoy writing, I'm still spending about 14, 15, 16 hours a week creating instead 00:01:37.960 |
Then I spend another four or five, six hours a week responding to comments and emails and 00:01:47.820 |
And the larger your platform grows, the more inbound requests you'll receive. 00:01:53.120 |
Also, since retiring from a day job in 2012, I did some consulting work part time at several 00:02:01.160 |
These startups range from series seed to series C. And I just wanted to experience startup 00:02:06.680 |
internet culture here in San Francisco, because I came here in 2001. 00:02:11.280 |
And I thought it would be a crying shame if I didn't experience any of that. 00:02:15.220 |
So I got to experience what it was like to work in a small group, and to try to do a 00:02:19.760 |
lot of marketing and online acquisitions and so forth. 00:02:24.580 |
But after three years, I said, Okay, I know what I need to know, I've scratched the itch. 00:02:31.400 |
It's only it was only 15 to 20 hours a week, but it'll still work. 00:02:35.240 |
And the final reason why I use fake retirement is that since 2017, I've been a stay at home 00:02:42.260 |
Despite working in banking for 13 years, 60 plus hours a week, every single week, I think 00:02:48.140 |
being a stay at home parent to two young children is at least 100% harder. 00:02:53.300 |
You've got to always be on otherwise something bad might happen, something really bad might 00:02:58.060 |
happen, they could just like fall off an edge, hurt themselves real bad or worse. 00:03:02.980 |
So it's really, it's really stressful being a stay at home parent. 00:03:06.340 |
I've had many of those heart jumps, those mini heart attacks, because just looking, looking 00:03:13.740 |
And you're like, Oh my gosh, where'd they go? 00:03:16.260 |
And you find them in some precarious situation. 00:03:19.260 |
So it's not easy being a stay at home parent. 00:03:21.220 |
So if you have a stay at home spouse, or you see someone, you know, staying at home for 00:03:25.900 |
three to six months to take care of their baby. 00:03:28.620 |
It's not a vacation, it really isn't a vacation. 00:03:32.780 |
Compared to work, the ability to work from home, I think, you know, working from home 00:03:37.180 |
is kind of a vacation compared to being a stay at home parent now. 00:03:41.420 |
And there's one other reason why I use fake retirement. 00:03:45.660 |
Since the beginning of 2020, I've been writing a new personal finance book, right? 00:03:50.240 |
Buy this, not that, how to spend your way to wealth and freedom. 00:03:54.240 |
It was also something really difficult to create. 00:04:01.580 |
But it's also because you need to collaborate with many, many minds, from the content editors 00:04:09.500 |
There are many people trying to create a book and edit a book. 00:04:14.500 |
It's kind of like some say birthing a book baby. 00:04:18.780 |
So fake retiree I am and I'm going to embrace that term in all its glory because the earlier 00:04:25.580 |
you retire, the sooner you're going to find something you're really passionate about doing 00:04:30.660 |
and you're going to enjoy doing it because you have the ability to do so. 00:04:35.220 |
So let's talk about the lessons learned after 10 years of fake retirement. 00:04:38.700 |
I've been writing about achieving financial independence since July 2009, when I launched 00:04:44.740 |
And since then, the fire movement has become more mainstream. 00:04:49.020 |
Terms such as coast fire, lean fire, barista fire, slow fire, all these different types 00:04:55.420 |
of flavors of financial independence have popped up to help those still far away from 00:05:00.400 |
financial independence feel better about their progress. 00:05:04.500 |
And knowing you're making progress is really important when you're trying to achieve financial 00:05:08.100 |
freedom because you can easily get distracted. 00:05:12.460 |
You can see some shiny object that you want to spend on debt. 00:05:16.960 |
You can see something else that someone else is doing and you want to follow them on their 00:05:20.900 |
travels and lose discipline in your saving and investing quest to build passive income. 00:05:27.940 |
Achieving financial independence is a long journey. 00:05:30.540 |
Therefore, if you can use these terms to help fit your situation, I think that's great. 00:05:36.380 |
It'll help motivate you to keep on going, to keep on trying. 00:05:40.380 |
When you achieve financial independence or when your investments can generate enough 00:05:46.280 |
passive investment income to cover at least your basic living expenses, you're going to 00:05:50.540 |
feel great and you're going to have a tremendous amount of freedom. 00:05:54.540 |
So this brings me to the first lesson I've learned after 10 years of fake retirement. 00:05:58.900 |
And that is only you will know whether you are truly financially independent or not. 00:06:05.380 |
We can come up with these terms to make ourselves feel better about our progress. 00:06:09.700 |
However, deep down, only you know whether you are financially independent or just faking 00:06:19.700 |
But faking it ultimately doesn't work when it comes to living the life you want. 00:06:24.620 |
So really look deep down, crunch the numbers and see whether your finances really are enough 00:06:33.720 |
Because at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter what anybody else thinks about your 00:06:39.300 |
All that matters is whether you are able to do what you want or not because you are financially 00:06:45.700 |
The second point, and this is the second point out of 11 points. 00:06:49.620 |
Your financial needs and desires will change over time. 00:06:53.380 |
It's really important not to think this is what you're going to need in terms of passive 00:06:57.980 |
income or net worth because your life will change. 00:07:02.180 |
You will experience all these unexpected things, good and bad unfortunately, that will make 00:07:07.860 |
you feel different about how much money you need. 00:07:10.780 |
When I left in 2012, I thought $80,000 in passive income, good enough. 00:07:15.580 |
It wasn't an extravagant lifestyle but I could survive in expensive San Francisco. 00:07:20.500 |
And my next goal was to generate $150,000 in passive income by the time my wife left 00:07:25.340 |
her day job as well at the age of 34 in 2015. 00:07:33.700 |
But then in 2017, we had our son and we thought, well, better try to make more money. 00:07:39.180 |
Healthcare costs, the premiums per month were about $2,000. 00:07:43.380 |
And then we looked up the preschool costs were $2,000 to $3,000 a month. 00:07:52.820 |
And then at the end of 2019, we were blessed with a daughter. 00:07:56.900 |
So we thought, well, another $50,000 it is then. 00:08:04.060 |
It just keeps on going up and you really need to be flexible in how much you need and how 00:08:11.160 |
Because these are good things that have happened to us. 00:08:13.300 |
And I know eventually, there are going to be bad things that happen to us, accidents, 00:08:17.780 |
sicknesses, taking care of our parents and our relatives and our friends and so forth. 00:08:22.660 |
So just because you think you'll need X amount of passive income to retire early, doesn't 00:08:29.820 |
And so I highly encourage everyone to start generating supplemental retirement income 00:08:37.420 |
All right, three, you will adopt a dynamic safe withdrawal rate and be more flexible 00:08:45.200 |
Because your financial needs and desires will change over time. 00:08:48.480 |
You should also be flexible with your safe withdrawal rate. 00:08:51.480 |
The best safe withdrawal rate is a dynamic one. 00:08:54.300 |
And that dynamic one I think is based off my formula, the Financial Samurai safe withdrawal 00:08:59.320 |
rate formula of 80% times the 10 year bond yield. 00:09:04.900 |
Contrary to what academics might say, there is no one fixed safe withdrawal rate to go 00:09:11.100 |
I'm a practitioner of early retirement who let go of a day job security in 2012. 00:09:23.140 |
I really need to go through and live this life and figure things out. 00:09:27.460 |
And I'm telling you, folks, you've got to be dynamic in your withdrawal rate and in 00:09:33.720 |
And one of the reasons why I think the 10 year bond yield is a fantastic barometer because 00:09:38.180 |
it shows us it tells us what the expectations are for inflation, for economic growth, for 00:09:48.980 |
So these are all really important things we need to be aware about while we're trying 00:09:53.380 |
to build more wealth and while we're trying to decumulate our wealth in retirement. 00:09:59.100 |
Every single economic situation is different. 00:10:02.060 |
Therefore, you need to be dynamic and flexible. 00:10:05.580 |
Four, you will eventually take your freedom for granted. 00:10:12.860 |
Unfortunately, the hedonic treadmill is the main reason why achieving financial independence 00:10:21.300 |
It does feel amazing to be able to do what you want whenever you want, but it just it 00:10:28.540 |
I mean, maybe that great feeling might last for about three to six months. 00:10:33.780 |
But after that, you just kind of revert back to your mean. 00:10:37.620 |
For example, while you were working, you might have felt giddy leaving work at 3 p.m. to 00:10:42.180 |
have a drink with a colleague, thinking to yourself, "Oh, you are getting paid to drink. 00:10:48.940 |
But then once you have total independence, you might actually start getting annoyed meeting 00:10:53.900 |
You'd be like, "Can we just have, you know, happy hour at like one o'clock or 12 while 00:11:00.420 |
It'd be so much more efficient that way instead of three o'clock. 00:11:04.500 |
Once you leave your day job, you will naturally create your own routine. 00:11:09.140 |
And this routine is just going to replace your old routine. 00:11:12.260 |
And if you have to make commitments outside your normal new routine, you might feel agitated. 00:11:19.340 |
All right, fifth point, fifth takeaway, you will likely have a recurring desire to return 00:11:25.480 |
This is a really interesting phenomenon because the longer you do something, the more you're 00:11:32.580 |
Once you leave your day job, you know, you're going to start second guessing your fake retirement 00:11:36.980 |
decision, especially if you leave very early on. 00:11:40.820 |
If you don't retire to something purposeful, something you would really enjoy doing, the 00:11:45.220 |
greater your desire to return to work will be. 00:11:48.900 |
For me, I've battled the urge to return to work at least three times. 00:11:55.580 |
I was like, "Oh, is this the right thing to do to give up this multiple six-figure potential 00:12:02.500 |
Hmm, man, I better interview with other competing firms just to make sure I wasn't making a 00:12:09.780 |
Second time I wanted to return to work, 2018, a year after my son was born. 00:12:15.060 |
I felt I needed to start earning again to better take care of my family. 00:12:19.460 |
Just seemed like that was the responsible thing to do as the father of the household. 00:12:24.300 |
And then after spending so much time taking care of my son at home, I started fantasizing 00:12:29.540 |
going back to work because I felt maybe it would be like a nice vacation. 00:12:33.580 |
You know, you just commute for 15 to 25 minutes, you go to the water cooler and talk to your 00:12:39.860 |
friends and then you have lunch and then you have happy hour. 00:12:43.700 |
And of course, you do some work in the office, right? 00:12:47.480 |
But that sounded pretty nice to hang out with a lot of adults again. 00:12:51.140 |
And then the final time I wanted to go back to work, not truly wanted to, but I was thinking 00:12:56.540 |
about it, was a year after the pandemic began because so many people I knew started working 00:13:03.780 |
If you didn't have to commute, that was like my number one PITA for going to work was the 00:13:09.500 |
If you didn't have to commute, that was pretty good. 00:13:14.220 |
I had so many friends who were able to work from home who were asking me to play tennis 00:13:21.860 |
So I figured, hey, if you can make good money not having to work or not having to work really 00:13:30.020 |
So for those of you who have worked from home jobs, definitely appreciate that flexibility 00:13:35.380 |
because I think it's just wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. 00:13:39.140 |
Maybe it is a grass is greener syndrome because I do have friends who work from home and they 00:13:44.060 |
say they can't even go to the bathroom or they're scheduling a bathroom break because 00:13:54.780 |
All right, six, you appreciate time more, not less. 00:13:59.180 |
You would think having more time would make you become less appreciative of time. 00:14:03.940 |
After all, increased supply generally leads to a decline in prices, a decline in appreciation. 00:14:13.220 |
Because when you can do whatever you want, you're no longer forced to do things you absolutely 00:14:19.260 |
Therefore, every minute that is wasted has a greater opportunity cost. 00:14:24.820 |
For example, when I was working, clients would show up late all the time to meetings. 00:14:30.220 |
But I didn't really care because they were the client and I had nowhere else to go. 00:14:36.740 |
But if someone shows up 30 minutes late today, I'm going to be really, really agitated because 00:14:43.060 |
I could have spent that time playing with my daughter, writing on Financial Samurai, 00:14:48.220 |
playing tennis or my favorite activity in the afternoon, napping. 00:14:53.460 |
When you're able to optimize your time by only doing what you want, spending your time 00:15:02.420 |
All right, seven, you realize how strange it is to take instruction from other adults 00:15:10.420 |
The longer I'm away from work, the more peculiar I think it is that over a billion people voluntarily 00:15:15.740 |
listen to other adults for 40 plus hours a week. 00:15:18.640 |
And then once the work hours are done, we're all equal outside of work. 00:15:23.500 |
And maybe this is confidence speaking, because, you know, we're spending a lot of hours, at 00:15:30.060 |
least before in the office, you know, kowtowing to our superiors and our seniors. 00:15:37.720 |
But you know, when you don't have to do that anymore, you realize everybody is equal, whether 00:15:43.300 |
you see them at the supermarket, shopping for lettuce and tomatoes or at a concert, 00:15:50.420 |
or at the movies, you know, your boss, even if she's a billionaire, doesn't have more 00:15:59.420 |
And that's the way it should be, I think, in the work environment, where we're treated 00:16:08.020 |
So the questions that I have to ask you all are, what would you do if you were already 00:16:19.120 |
And which truths have you suppressed, so you don't jeopardize your status? 00:16:24.640 |
One of the biggest benefits of FIRE is being able to be who you are, without as much fear 00:16:33.360 |
Eight, you will lose and then regain your identity. 00:16:37.560 |
Given our work is a big part of who we are, once you leave your job, you will lose a part 00:16:43.640 |
And the longer you work, the harder the transition to retirement or fake retirement will be. 00:16:48.760 |
It's definitely one of the negatives of early retirement I've talked about before. 00:16:53.600 |
And if you are truly retired, you might start feeling useless to society. 00:16:58.920 |
Many of you start feeling useless, the chances of feeling constantly sad or depressed or 00:17:08.440 |
Because at the end of the day, we all want to feel like we're contributing something 00:17:13.440 |
It's one of the reasons why I write and I respond. 00:17:16.640 |
I spend these hours every single week for so long. 00:17:22.560 |
Therefore, nobody really retires early and does nothing. 00:17:26.120 |
Instead, early retirees eventually find something they would do for free because they enjoy 00:17:32.680 |
So in my case, it's writing and connecting with people online. 00:17:35.920 |
I'm writing about my experiences, other people's experiences and stories. 00:17:40.600 |
I'm not pumping out endless search engine optimization affiliate content because that 00:17:47.160 |
And I know it's a business and you can make money. 00:17:49.160 |
Yeah, I'll do some sponsor posts every once in a while, especially for those corporates 00:17:59.680 |
But that's not the main reason why I want to write. 00:18:06.000 |
And you will find a new identity that will replace your old one due to gaining a new 00:18:14.080 |
But you might have to lose that identity and figure things out for a while. 00:18:19.920 |
You start thinking more about what type of legacy you want to leave. 00:18:24.200 |
And you really don't think about legacy in your 20s or 30s. 00:18:27.760 |
You start thinking about your legacy, I think, in your 40s. 00:18:30.480 |
And also after you have children, because you know, or you hope, you know, God bless 00:18:34.760 |
them, God bless your family, that they will outlive you. 00:18:38.200 |
I mean, I don't want to outlive anybody in my family. 00:18:42.920 |
So along with wanting a sense of purpose during fake retirement, you will also want to accomplish 00:18:49.920 |
In other words, you will want to leave behind something positive others will benefit from 00:18:56.240 |
For me, that's Financial Samurai because the internet lasts forever. 00:19:00.680 |
And also my soon to be released book, Buy This, Not That on July 19. 00:19:05.960 |
It has the potential to help a new segment of the book reading public. 00:19:09.680 |
I'm confident the book will change the reader's life for the better. 00:19:13.760 |
I can also die easier knowing I did everything possible to try and help others with their 00:19:19.720 |
Whether it's writing on financialsamurai.com, recording these podcasts, or writing this 00:19:26.960 |
I don't think I could have worked more to try to help others gain financial independence. 00:19:33.200 |
Because trust me on this one, financial independence is worth fighting for. 00:19:37.040 |
Those hours that you put in early on or even now, will pay dividends in the future. 00:19:42.480 |
That time you spend learning about money, learning about investing, learning about new 00:19:46.680 |
methodologies, just surrounding yourself with people who are on the same quest. 00:19:55.360 |
Because once you get to about $300,000 in investable assets, you'll start getting that 00:20:00.360 |
feeling like, "Hey, this could be what financial independence feels like." 00:20:05.520 |
Because if you return 10% on $300,000, that's $30,000 and most people can probably live 00:20:13.700 |
And then as you start building momentum, it just becomes so fun, so encouraging, and it 00:20:19.780 |
is something that you want to share with others because it feels so liberating. 00:20:23.980 |
When you look back on your life, you want to have some defining moments you'll always 00:20:30.740 |
Such wonderful moments might include graduating from high school or college, getting your 00:20:35.460 |
first job, starting a company, winning an award, and having your first baby. 00:20:41.740 |
Further, the more difficult the environment, the more you will want to create fond memories 00:20:50.260 |
When I look back on the pandemic period, I will happily remember three things. 00:20:54.700 |
One, my wife birthing our daughter at the end of 2019. 00:20:59.380 |
Two, keeping our kids safe and providing them with lots of love, play, and attention. 00:21:06.100 |
And three, publishing a personal finance book that positively impacted everyone who read 00:21:15.460 |
Nobody really cares what you do, so make sure you live for yourself. 00:21:24.060 |
Whether you retire early to go on some huge trip around the world or you retire to start 00:21:31.340 |
a new solopreneur business, do what you want. 00:21:34.600 |
The only people who may criticize your fake retirement are members of the Internet Retirement 00:21:40.020 |
They'll try to arrest you for doing anything that generates income, anything that requires 00:21:48.060 |
Even if you say you are a fake retiree, sometimes, they might still lob grenades at you, especially 00:21:57.980 |
But the reality is, so long as you're not hurting anybody, everyday normal people don't 00:22:06.100 |
Most people are just too busy worrying about their own problems. 00:22:11.500 |
The only people who get bent out of shape about how you describe your situation are 00:22:20.540 |
So accept your fake retirement in all its glory. 00:22:25.620 |
Because really, the main goal is to conserve as much of your life energy as possible to 00:22:34.660 |
At the end of the day, you're only letting yourself down if you don't pursue your dreams. 00:22:41.340 |
I was going to leave you with 10 points, but an 11th point came up. 00:22:45.540 |
And that is, your courage will continue to increase. 00:22:49.660 |
It's one of the biggest takeaways of fake retirement, early retirement. 00:22:54.860 |
The fear in your head is often worse than reality. 00:23:00.580 |
In fact, fear is one of the key ingredients for achieving financial freedom. 00:23:05.300 |
Because without fear, you won't be motivated enough to save aggressively, to invest wisely, 00:23:14.740 |
Fear of failure also makes you try harder to reduce your chances of failure. 00:23:24.540 |
And as your fear dissipates, your courage grows. 00:23:28.420 |
With regards to early retirement, courage first starts with giving up a paycheck and 00:23:35.740 |
You will most likely figure out a way to make things work by trying new things. 00:23:40.380 |
And worst case, you can always go back to work. 00:23:43.340 |
Remember, your financial independence number is not real if you don't change a suboptimal 00:23:50.460 |
So if you think, you know, whatever it is you have, 500 grand, a million, 2 million, 00:23:54.420 |
5 million, whatnot, is financially independent, but you're still in a terrible marriage, you 00:24:01.860 |
still work for a boss you don't like, you still live in a town that disrespects you. 00:24:09.740 |
Whatever the case may be, you've got to change. 00:24:14.020 |
If you're truly financially independent, you better use your money to change and make your 00:24:22.760 |
One of the interesting things I've experienced is I've had a greater courage to be disliked 00:24:31.260 |
I'd much rather be authentic and lose readers than act like a power-hungry politician to 00:24:40.300 |
In fact, it feels amazing not to have to pretend to be someone you are not. 00:24:45.820 |
In competitive sports, I just realized I've played 23 United States Tennis Association 00:24:51.140 |
matches in the first half of 2022 after taking a two-year hiatus thanks to the virus. 00:24:57.460 |
The thing is, it's really tough to compete because your record is online forever and 00:25:04.620 |
people don't want to compete and lose because it's embarrassing. 00:25:13.300 |
Yes, fear of losing and the frustration of losing is still there, but I still want to 00:25:21.420 |
Gaining more courage to be yourself might be the most valuable personal development 00:25:26.820 |
gift of this entire early retirement process. 00:25:31.980 |
I hope you enjoyed the key takeaways after 10 years of fake retirement. 00:25:38.340 |
Ten years have gone by so quickly and let us not waste a single moment of our lives. 00:25:45.940 |
Being able to do what I want thanks to the money that I have is one of the main reasons 00:25:51.300 |
why I wrote Buy This, Not That, How to Spend Your Way to Wealth and Freedom. 00:25:57.120 |
The book will provide you the frameworks necessary to build more wealth quicker in a risk-appropriate 00:26:03.260 |
manner and it will tackle some of life's biggest dilemmas many of us will face. 00:26:10.080 |
So I appreciate your support in picking up a hard copy. 00:26:14.020 |
You'll see the beautiful art by Colleen Kong Savage. 00:26:23.500 |
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