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EV Training Class #5


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00:00:00.000 | Okay, what Steve Lawson likes to say, this is where you go from taking someone to the
00:00:05.680 | terminal and instructing them to get onto the airplane.
00:00:08.760 | So it's either you're here, the airplane's about to take off, or you're there.
00:00:11.960 | You gotta be in one place or the other.
00:00:14.040 | He said don't leave them in between thinking that the plane is still there when it's not.
00:00:20.420 | So in the introduction, Roman numeral one, don't feel bad for asking comprehension questions.
00:00:25.920 | Ask the unbeliever following questions.
00:00:27.520 | So remember, you don't want to sit there and use them as a wall that you're just talking
00:00:32.320 | to.
00:00:34.080 | You want to know truly if they understand what you're saying, and you want to be able
00:00:39.720 | to do that with good questions.
00:00:42.780 | So if you use, we said this in the past, but try not to use the yes or no questions.
00:00:47.520 | Ask them questions that will force them to display or expose their heart a little bit.
00:00:53.600 | So you can ask, do you understand that, and then repeat what you said.
00:00:58.760 | So let's say you said you were talking about a topic for one minute, and at the end of
00:01:02.600 | it, even though they were nodding along, if you asked, hey, do you have questions about
00:01:06.840 | this, or do you understand what I was saying, you'd be surprised.
00:01:10.880 | They might have been nodding the whole time, and at the end they'd be like, I have no idea
00:01:14.400 | what you're talking about.
00:01:16.460 | So it helps.
00:01:17.460 | Oh, what about it did you not understand?
00:01:19.240 | And they'll start saying, oh, you know, when you said this, how does this work?
00:01:23.200 | And then what happens is you begin to see where they actually are, rather than just
00:01:27.600 | assuming.
00:01:28.600 | So A, B, and C were the first three points of the Gospel.
00:01:35.840 | God is creator and owner.
00:01:37.220 | He is sinless and requires perfect obedience.
00:01:39.000 | So you stop there.
00:01:41.240 | Somewhere down the line, and you ask, do you understand this?
00:01:44.840 | Do you have any objection to the fact that God created you?
00:01:49.000 | Do you believe that?
00:01:50.000 | Do you agree?
00:01:51.000 | Or is there something about that that you don't agree?
00:01:55.720 | So you kind of go down these lists of questions.
00:01:59.000 | Let it be you're sinful, unable to save yourself, and you'll pay the penalty for your sin.
00:02:03.000 | Ask them questions again.
00:02:06.960 | And as you go through, you'll see that even though they conceded to some things, all of
00:02:12.200 | a sudden you find them back, like three steps back.
00:02:15.480 | And you're like, hey, but didn't you say this?
00:02:18.600 | And then they're going to have to say, oh yeah, I did say that.
00:02:21.440 | And so you bring them back to the line.
00:02:23.800 | So what you're doing is you're trying to put the line here, and you're trying to move them
00:02:28.360 | towards the line.
00:02:29.360 | And when they get to the line, you're trying to move them forward and get them to that
00:02:32.120 | line.
00:02:33.440 | So when you get to that line, reemphasize that line.
00:02:38.900 | So that if they drew back a few steps, then you say, hey, but didn't you say this?
00:02:42.880 | We agreed to this.
00:02:43.880 | And you bring them right back.
00:02:44.880 | And you say, OK, now we can move forward again.
00:02:48.880 | Letter C, Christ, the sinless Son of God, paid sin's penalty for all who repent.
00:02:54.920 | Christ, the sinless Son of God, paid sin's penalty for all who repent.
00:02:57.920 | That's what we talked about last time.
00:02:59.400 | Letter D, and here it is.
00:03:00.840 | Do you understand that simply knowing these facts cannot save you?
00:03:04.880 | Obviously, this is really tough to get to in what we did yesterday.
00:03:11.680 | Again, the evangelizing that's with the strangers, and you don't know how much time you have.
00:03:17.240 | It's hard to display this whole message.
00:03:20.280 | This whole thing is actually most beneficial for what I would think to be relational evangelism.
00:03:26.680 | But here, you can actually get to those points, though, with people.
00:03:30.400 | You can leave and leave them, even though maybe even the entire gospel might not have
00:03:35.200 | been fully displayed, and you feel uncomfortable about that.
00:03:38.200 | You can still leave them in crossroad questions.
00:03:42.080 | Do you understand that simply knowing these facts cannot save you?
00:03:45.000 | Do you understand that if you do not believe this, what the Bible says is that you are
00:03:49.360 | a hellbound person?
00:03:51.440 | And you have to say that very carefully and very gently and with care.
00:03:57.600 | But if you do, this is where you ought to leave them.
00:04:01.720 | If this is what you want, because people are nice people.
00:04:06.800 | Most people you come across are people fearers, and so you can actually use some of that to
00:04:13.600 | your advantage.
00:04:14.800 | You can bring them to these places.
00:04:16.540 | If this is truly what you want, though, then you need to repent of your sins.
00:04:22.400 | And while you don't want to leave them in that place of people fear, you want to bring
00:04:25.400 | them and draw them to a place where they fear God alone.
00:04:29.120 | It's still, when you think about being wise and shrewd, you want to use shrewdness in
00:04:35.120 | this, too.
00:04:36.120 | Use whatever capability you have, not to manipulate them, but to draw them to the truth.
00:04:44.200 | That's a little bit tricky, what I just said, so be careful with what I just said.
00:04:48.640 | You're not trying to manipulate a person.
00:04:51.280 | But really do your best in that.
00:04:54.120 | I'll field some questions after this section.
00:04:56.920 | Instruct them to repent.
00:04:58.280 | So repentance involves confession of sins.
00:05:03.120 | Repentance involves confession of sins, and then repentance results in forgiveness.
00:05:10.120 | Okay, Marsha, can you read for us 1 John 1.9?
00:05:26.720 | So we see that great promise there.
00:05:29.280 | It's kind of an if-then statement.
00:05:31.260 | If we confess, then He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from
00:05:35.240 | all unrighteousness.
00:05:38.160 | Many people we come across will concede to some type of brokenness.
00:05:42.760 | And if you can draw them to an understanding of sin, you can say, you can actually repent
00:05:47.240 | and confess right now.
00:05:49.760 | That's possible.
00:05:52.220 | And many times we feel afraid to get to that point, but that simple offer, people will
00:05:56.760 | take it.
00:05:58.360 | Because people are guilty people.
00:06:01.080 | Every person is walking around with guilt.
00:06:03.080 | And so if you give them an opportunity, it could kind of come out in a favorable response.
00:06:11.240 | Acts 8.22.
00:06:12.240 | Is it important that it's a confession of sin, not sins, but sinful?
00:06:23.240 | Oh, I see what you're saying.
00:06:26.240 | So going back to point 2 of the Gospel in humanity, biblical anthropology would state,
00:06:53.520 | at this point, this is all assuming the previous points.
00:06:57.280 | Just remember that.
00:06:58.280 | So this does not stand alone.
00:07:01.120 | This would be terrible alone.
00:07:03.720 | So with the understanding of trying to get people, everyone feels like they're sinful
00:07:09.640 | most of the time.
00:07:11.560 | And so trying to get them to understand, hey, it's not that you lie, it's that you are a
00:07:15.720 | liar.
00:07:16.720 | It's not that you sin, you're a sinner.
00:07:19.720 | So getting them to that point will have already required you to have presented God's holy
00:07:24.280 | standard.
00:07:25.280 | It will already have required for you to show them you're so much worse than you actually
00:07:31.240 | thought you were.
00:07:39.600 | I think so.
00:07:41.640 | That's why this is really difficult in a cold evangelism setting.
00:07:46.940 | So you have to make the call about whether in a cold evangelism setting you would still
00:07:53.080 | say this is enough to give them opportunity to repent of something.
00:08:00.080 | Because in a perfect world, you want them to have complete understanding before you
00:08:03.400 | get to repentance.
00:08:06.200 | But sometimes I will go to the repentance portion, and then as they're laying down their
00:08:12.480 | guard and saying I want to repent and confess over my sin, I'll take them back to a previous
00:08:17.680 | point.
00:08:19.080 | I don't know how to explain it other than as you do this more and more, I think you
00:08:23.240 | begin to see more and more things.
00:08:26.240 | I mean, you guys probably evangelized way more than I did, I think.
00:08:32.360 | I mean, I'm 15 years into Christianity, which is more than I realize.
00:08:38.480 | When I say it out loud, I'm like, "Oh, that's longer than I thought."
00:08:40.960 | I still feel like, in some ways, I still feel like a young Christian.
00:08:46.480 | But yeah, you just have to kind of, it's case by case.
00:08:55.040 | That's why evangelism class is a little strange.
00:08:59.760 | You're taking someone linearly through this thing that's nowhere near linear.
00:09:04.440 | This is such a process.
00:09:07.640 | It's like trying to think how you would raise a kid.
00:09:11.620 | It's never linear.
00:09:13.120 | That's a great question, though.
00:09:16.820 | C.G., can you read for us Acts 8.22, and then we'll go back to Carmen for the next one?
00:09:25.520 | You know, that passage in John?
00:09:54.120 | This is a passage that I went back and forth in a lot in my previous years.
00:10:01.520 | Because I got this, like, "Man, I grew up in such a nominal Christian setting that I
00:10:11.560 | felt like the requirement for Christianity, you know, the count the cost portion, was
00:10:16.280 | so astronomical that I really got that feeling of who then could be saved.
00:10:23.040 | There's a good part of that.
00:10:24.400 | But then, in the midst of that, I think I really did forget the simplicity of it.
00:10:30.840 | Look at that passage.
00:10:31.840 | "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes Him, and believes Him
00:10:39.200 | who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed on in death
00:10:43.000 | into life."
00:10:46.880 | You don't want to make people run through hoops that you have created for them.
00:10:52.560 | And because of my faithlessness to a kind of a degree, we might look and say, like,
00:11:00.200 | be very skeptical constantly.
00:11:02.680 | But honestly, we have to kind of recheck it sometimes and really think, "Hey, is this
00:11:08.480 | an opportunity where I could just say this passage?"
00:11:11.800 | You know?
00:11:12.800 | "Hey, if you're in some kind of brokenness here, but it says here, if you hear His word,
00:11:18.080 | and if you believe in Him, then judgment is gone."
00:11:23.120 | You can become a saved person for all of eternity, like in two minutes.
00:11:30.160 | It's hard.
00:11:31.160 | Remember, we're not doing easy believism.
00:11:33.280 | That's not what we're going to do.
00:11:35.320 | But I think we swing enough on the cautious side for me to be able to say confidently
00:11:42.040 | to you guys, "Don't forget the simplicity of the Gospel."
00:11:47.800 | Let's see here.
00:11:50.120 | "Turn your heart from all that dishonors God.
00:11:53.720 | Literally, repent means to think after.
00:11:56.640 | The Greek word metanoia is to turn."
00:12:00.920 | To repent is not to say sorry.
00:12:04.880 | Although that is very, very much involved in it.
00:12:07.920 | Actually, I like using the word sorry for people because repentants, they're like, "What's
00:12:14.840 | that?"
00:12:15.840 | They say, "Have you ever been sorry about something you did?"
00:12:22.680 | And explain to me what that sorrow looked like.
00:12:26.120 | And so they'll say, "Oh yeah, there's this time I did this, and then, oh man, I felt
00:12:30.360 | so bad."
00:12:31.360 | I was like, "That's repentance."
00:12:32.360 | I was like, "What happened?
00:12:35.480 | Let me show you what repentance is.
00:12:36.960 | What happened after that?"
00:12:37.960 | They're like, "Oh, I felt so bad.
00:12:40.720 | I'm like, dude, I told the person I'll never do this again.
00:12:45.080 | I got scarred by it.
00:12:46.440 | It was deep in my mind.
00:12:48.000 | It changed the way I live."
00:12:51.320 | Things will come out.
00:12:53.320 | So again, help them.
00:12:54.640 | Ask good questions to help them draw understanding.
00:12:58.440 | Isaiah 55.6.
00:12:59.440 | "Seek the Lord while he may be found.
00:13:25.000 | In good inductive study, what you want to do is ask the negative.
00:13:30.960 | Why would he be saying this?
00:13:32.680 | What would happen if this weren't the case?
00:13:36.520 | What would happen if you don't heed this?"
00:13:38.040 | Kind of that negative part.
00:13:39.040 | It's like, "Seek the Lord while he may be found."
00:13:41.080 | That kind of gives us an air of like, "Oh, it's on me to go and seek him.
00:13:45.800 | I have some time here."
00:13:47.000 | But actually what he's trying to say is like, "He won't be found for long."
00:13:49.800 | So you can say that to them.
00:13:56.240 | Luke 9.23.
00:13:57.240 | "If anyone wishes to come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and
00:14:04.240 | follow me."
00:14:05.240 | Right.
00:14:06.240 | Man, we all know that one.
00:14:08.080 | Luke 15.17, "The prodigal son."
00:14:11.280 | These are all opportunities to display the free gift of the gospel.
00:14:18.320 | Because it says in Romans 6.23, "For the wicked sin is death, but the free gift of God is
00:14:21.960 | eternal life."
00:14:25.040 | As much as we're saying, "Count the cost, deny yourself, take up your cross."
00:14:29.520 | I would say, always emphasize the "follow me" portion more than the "deny yourself and
00:14:34.160 | take up your cross" portion.
00:14:35.840 | The "follow me" portion is going to cause the "deny yourself, take up the cross" portion.
00:14:40.960 | If we say, "You've got to give up everything and then here's Jesus."
00:14:44.480 | No, you want to lead with, "Here's Christ.
00:14:47.520 | Here's what you have in Him."
00:14:50.800 | And so when they look to their lives, all of a sudden, Philippians 3.7-11 happens, right?
00:14:55.840 | They say, "Man, I count all things rubbish compared to the surpassing worth of knowing
00:14:59.880 | Christ."
00:15:00.880 | All of a sudden, it's someone who says, "I found the pearl of great price."
00:15:04.320 | Which is a story of the entrance into the kingdom, right?
00:15:08.760 | That's the story of a new believer.
00:15:10.640 | The person who is able to see something of such great value that they would sell everything
00:15:15.120 | that they have.
00:15:16.120 | If we're preaching, sell everything that you have.
00:15:19.440 | Because there's like this thing here.
00:15:21.280 | That would be incorrect and improper.
00:15:23.840 | And we would have to say, "Man, what kind of Christianity do I live if I'm presenting
00:15:27.920 | it like that?
00:15:28.920 | Do I even value it?"
00:15:29.920 | This is a hard check.
00:15:32.880 | But this "count the cost" portion is very important.
00:15:35.360 | Anthony, did you already read?
00:15:38.840 | Okay.
00:15:39.840 | Nicole, can you read for us Luke 14?
00:15:42.840 | [Luke 14, "Now great ministers, you're going along with them and you say that thanks to
00:15:48.560 | me, if anyone comes to me and does not believe in his Father and Mother and lies to him,
00:15:53.560 | he shall be his disclaimer.
00:15:54.560 | But whoever does not believe in Christ, he cannot be my disclaimer.
00:15:58.560 | Whoever does not believe in his own past and comes after me, he shall not be my disclaimer.
00:16:06.560 | And if one of you then wants to build a tower, but not in this system, and calculates the
00:16:13.560 | cost, his condition has not been improved."]
00:16:14.560 | Okay.
00:16:15.560 | With all this, this "count the cost" is so important.
00:16:18.560 | If you display that to them, you have to remind them that as they go, that there is a great
00:16:25.560 | cost.
00:16:26.560 | And fleshing out the cost, there's so many facets to it.
00:16:31.240 | You will have to display the church.
00:16:32.560 | You will have to display a God-centered living and all of that.
00:16:36.560 | Next one, "Believe in Christ, follow him as Lord and Savior.
00:16:40.560 | Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen."
00:16:46.560 | That's in Hebrews 11.
00:16:47.560 | "It is taking God at his word and obeying him."
00:16:50.560 | Repentant faith is not merely a decision to trust Christ for eternal life, but a wholesale
00:16:56.560 | forsaking everything else we trust and a turning to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
00:17:01.560 | "Faith is not a simple recognizing certain facts or exercising mere mental assent.
00:17:06.560 | This is more than just understanding the facts and assenting to the truth.
00:17:10.560 | Demons do that."
00:17:11.560 | In James 2.19.
00:17:13.560 | MacArthur says that in his book.
00:17:15.560 | So, you want to be able to kind of take them through this.
00:17:20.560 | "It is a conviction of the truth that responds in or manifests itself in obedience."
00:17:26.560 | So, Jesus Christ is Savior.
00:17:38.560 | That's the trust portion.
00:17:40.560 | And Jesus Christ is Lord.
00:17:42.560 | That's the obey portion.
00:17:45.560 | Trust and obey.
00:17:50.560 | I love that hymn.
00:17:51.560 | "For there's no other way to be happy in Jesus than to trust and obey."
00:17:54.560 | Really, if you simplify the Christian life, I think it is trust and obey.
00:17:59.560 | Some people will say love and obey.
00:18:01.560 | It's all the same thing.
00:18:03.560 | So, Romans 10.9-10.
00:18:05.560 | Whoever's next.
00:18:07.560 | "If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus is the reason in your heart that God has raised
00:18:11.560 | you from the dead to be with you today, so with your heart confess with your mouth the
00:18:15.560 | Lord Jesus is the reason in your heart that God has raised you from the dead to be with
00:18:18.560 | you today, so with your heart confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus is the reason in
00:18:20.560 | your heart that God has raised you from the dead to be with you today, so with your heart
00:18:21.560 | confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus is the reason in your heart that God has raised
00:18:22.560 | you from the dead to be with you today, so with your heart confess with your mouth the
00:18:23.560 | Okay, great. Oh, Ephesians 2. Let's finish that up.
00:18:32.720 | Oops, sorry. I hate doing that with Bible passages. Sorry about that.
00:18:44.000 | Okay, so that belief is as simple as these things say, you know. Obviously it
00:18:51.240 | requires a lot of thought, but man, it's pretty incredible how, you know,
00:18:58.960 | John 3:16 when it says, "For God so loved the world that whoever believes in Him,"
00:19:03.480 | like we get confused by our theology sometimes and we say like, "How does
00:19:07.640 | election and God, you know, His effectual calling like affect this?" You know, but the
00:19:14.520 | Bible is, passage right there, it's clear, "Whoever believes in Him," you know. You
00:19:19.280 | don't have to present like, "If you are elect, then you know, like the
00:19:24.680 | opportunity is before you today." In our mind we might be thinking, "But if they're
00:19:29.160 | not a regenerate person, then can they really accept?" Like honestly, you can't see
00:19:33.800 | that. And that's not, those passages aren't meant to cause us hesitance.
00:19:39.480 | Actually, many of the passages on election is meant to be the believers
00:19:43.560 | comfort. So when we go evangelize and we have those theologies kind of
00:19:48.720 | creating questions where they ought not to be, you know, maybe you should be more
00:19:54.200 | familiar with these passages that tell you, "Hey, this is a free gift of
00:19:58.920 | salvation. Hey, whoever believes in Christ will come to be saved." That
00:20:04.160 | gives you the wings and the freedom. You're not an Arminian at that point, okay?
00:20:07.760 | Like at that point, like it's, you're a Christian, you're a child of God,
00:20:12.400 | you're a believer who is obedient to God's call to go and present a gospel
00:20:15.800 | that says, "Come all you who are weary." Right? Anyone who wants to buy this milk
00:20:20.680 | and this wine, come, it's free for you. Like that's our message. That's
00:20:25.880 | why our feet are beautiful, you know, even though they're torn up. Okay, so
00:20:32.680 | appealing to the unbelievers will directly. This is, okay, this is important.
00:20:37.200 | So this is what you want to do. You want to go directly to the unbelievers will
00:20:41.400 | and appeal to it. So don't appeal to their desired perception of
00:20:47.640 | themselves. Don't appeal to how they've been presenting themselves. Like try to
00:20:53.040 | go and dig in and now at this point you've heard so much about this person,
00:20:57.240 | right? You know a lot more about what makes them tick. You want to go directly
00:21:02.280 | to their will. So if you look at this, if you look at the, "Who is God? He is
00:21:06.240 | Creator and owns everything. He is perfectly holy. He requires perfect
00:21:09.000 | obedience. Humanity is guilty. Everyone has broken God's law. The penalty for
00:21:13.560 | sin is eternal death and separation. Good works or intentions cannot save you." And
00:21:17.600 | then, "Christ the Savior. Jesus came to earth as both God and sinless man. He
00:21:22.280 | came to show God's love by dying on the cross to pay the penalty for sin. Jesus
00:21:26.600 | rose from the grave and is alive today." If you sit there and you say, "Do you
00:21:30.480 | believe this?" And they go, "Yeah." They're not a Christian, right? You actually have to
00:21:35.520 | take them through the repentance, the considering, and then the belief, right? So
00:21:41.040 | you must repent and believe. A) You can say this. Like if they say that they want
00:21:45.160 | to do it, don't get the false assurance of like, "Oh sweet, there's their believer."
00:21:51.320 | You know? You have to say like, you have to turn away from all that dishonors God.
00:21:56.320 | Like will you do that? If they say no, then you're like, then like you haven't
00:22:01.440 | seen it. You haven't seen the full picture of all these things. Now they can
00:22:07.880 | say like, "Oh but like so I can't ever sin again? I can't like ever struggle again?"
00:22:11.760 | Like no, that's not what we're saying. But right now, are you ready to
00:22:15.960 | surrender everything and turn away from everything that you used to live for?
00:22:19.200 | Because that's what's required to follow Christ, right? So it's, I don't know, you
00:22:26.360 | know, it's kind of like when you get married and what is that thing? If you
00:22:29.680 | get divorced and you have the thing where that tells you where money goes
00:22:35.480 | and stuff? Prenup. It's like a prenup. It's like, wait, like so do you or do you
00:22:42.680 | not want to give your life to God? Right now though, don't worry about the
00:22:47.920 | future. Like where are you? And let's go from there, you know? So from there you
00:22:54.840 | can kind of begin to describe what the Christian walk would actually look like
00:22:57.680 | and entail. In the letter B, believe in Christ as Lord and Savior. And you can
00:23:04.640 | ask that. Do you believe? You've understood now what Lord is and you've
00:23:09.720 | understood now what Savior is. Do you believe that He is indeed that? Do you
00:23:15.040 | believe that He is actually Lord? You cannot make Him Lord, but right now what
00:23:20.200 | we're asking is for you to surrender before the Lord. Do you get all that?
00:23:25.560 | So clarifying questions. Letter C. And then, hey, will you repent and believe in
00:23:31.280 | Christ? So if they feel like they're kind of rolling, keep it rolling. Like sometimes
00:23:42.640 | there might be times where it's beneficial to say like, hey, let's
00:23:46.880 | talk again next week after you think about certain things. But sometimes it's
00:23:50.480 | like just help them. Help them go, you know? It will make it easier in
00:23:58.280 | the beginning. Ask, beg, command, persuade. Oh, so if it feels like they're
00:24:08.440 | walking with you in this, like so they say like, oh yeah, yeah, like I think I
00:24:15.040 | understand who God is. I think I understand that I'm a sinner before Him
00:24:19.240 | and that, oh, Jesus came to die on the cross. And I think sometimes our
00:24:25.680 | hesitance and saying like, do you really get it? You know, that'll like cause us to
00:24:31.800 | stop. But keep trying to push them across those lines, right? So you
00:24:36.160 | turn and like say, hey, like today then, if you're saying you believe that,
00:24:41.080 | I don't believe that you believe, don't say this out loud, right? But in my mind I'm
00:24:45.320 | thinking, I don't believe that you believe that until there's a response. If
00:24:49.640 | there's no response to it, then there is no actual belief in it, right? And so I'll
00:24:54.360 | ask the question, are you ready then to, if you say you believe these things, to
00:24:57.600 | turn from your sin and to abandon everything for it? And you're like, I'm
00:25:02.680 | not ready. Then I say, then you don't understand it, you know? You're not, you're
00:25:07.560 | not, your belief is not real. Because belief is not an understanding of
00:25:12.600 | conceptual facts that I've kind of pointed out. And you feel even some layer
00:25:16.200 | of remorse inside of you, that's not belief. You know, belief will cause you,
00:25:21.120 | like if you, if you're presented with something of such great enormous
00:25:25.600 | magnitude and it's offered to you as a free gift, like there is nobody that
00:25:30.880 | would not accept it. So there is some kind of obstacle here that's stopping
00:25:36.320 | you from taking it, right? And so like these, these, like walking them down
00:25:42.880 | these things, will you turn from your sin? Honestly at that point they should be,
00:25:48.840 | like they should be able to, you know? So, you know, it was really cool. Yesterday one
00:25:56.040 | of our college staff messaged the college, college staff group and they're
00:26:00.320 | like, oh man, one of our students just like repented over their sin and they
00:26:04.600 | became a believer, you know? Lord and Savior for the first time. And we're all
00:26:08.280 | like, like crying. I'm so happy. And so, you know, like, like I know that she had
00:26:16.800 | been kind of taking the student down for a while and some of our other students
00:26:20.040 | and staffers have been taking this student for a while. It's Beverly by the
00:26:23.680 | way. But, and you know, she, she understood, you know? And it took so long. But
00:26:31.840 | constant crossroads was presented to her. Like we're making it very clear where you
00:26:35.840 | stand. You are not a believer, you know? And like even in her little group, they
00:26:42.040 | would all treat her as that, you know? Like not very nicely, you know? But it was
00:26:46.720 | constantly that was presented that you got to turn from your sin. Like, like no,
00:26:50.280 | you're not one of us. And then she considered, considered, thought through it
00:26:55.600 | all and then, you know, she was asked like, are you ready to believe again? And
00:27:01.280 | she did, you know, on Thursday. So it's cool. Like you're trying to move them
00:27:07.160 | across this line, you know? So does that make sense?
00:27:12.400 | To this, to confession, repentance, receive God's forgiveness, receive His
00:27:27.880 | grace. I think, I think a lot of Christian churches nowadays are so good at
00:27:37.640 | presenting points one, two, and three without helping people into an actual
00:27:43.160 | thing. And so that's why it has caused the church to create many nominal
00:27:47.800 | Christians. That's why baptism has been a very watered-down and diluted principle
00:27:53.480 | or ordinance. And then I also think that's why people resort to quick fixes,
00:27:58.800 | altar calls, raise your hand, come up, pray the prayer, because it gives some kind of
00:28:05.400 | weird confidence. But really to help someone see like this is what it's going
00:28:09.240 | to look like, like you have to receive it. That's why I like when we say then this
00:28:14.160 | next part of ask, beg, command, persuade, you're doing everything possible for
00:28:19.840 | them to receive this gospel message, like truly. That's, that's, that's, this is
00:28:24.360 | our end goal here. Like we want to really get people, like here, we've been talking
00:28:29.200 | about all these things, but until you get to this fourth principle, like you
00:28:35.080 | leave them like on that fence, right? And so you have churches, you have pews filled
00:28:41.800 | with people in the middle ground, like getting convicted. I'm not sure if I'm a
00:28:46.480 | believer, but just because they're like playing the game, it fools them into
00:28:50.680 | thinking, but maybe I'm okay. We need to be very clear like where this line is.
00:28:55.560 | And you have to, until you help them across this line, like you have to be
00:29:00.480 | very clear about that. You are not yet a believer. You have to, you have to turn
00:29:04.600 | from your sin, you know. Okay, you can read these next three passages on your own.
00:29:13.240 | Now here's some questions that might be helpful. Earlier you told me your hope of
00:29:17.280 | eternal life was in the good work you do. Hey, are you ready now or do you want to
00:29:21.040 | trust that God, trust God and believe in Christ? Another one, your faith was in
00:29:25.960 | yourself, but the Bible says that for you to be saved, you must place your faith in
00:29:28.800 | Jesus Christ as Lord. Will you repent of that and believe? So you're hearkening
00:29:32.760 | back to something that they've already stated, right? You've said this, so this,
00:29:37.680 | right? Like it's a, it's persuasion at its best. You know, it's like we've
00:29:44.720 | already gotten here, so the next logical conclusion is here. Otherwise this thing,
00:29:49.440 | you haven't even gotten there, you know. That's what Paul does in a lot of his
00:29:53.480 | epistles. He says, here you have all these things, therefore this is how you ought
00:29:57.300 | to look, this is how you ought to live, you know. It's like, oh yeah. So that's what
00:30:01.900 | you're trying to do with people. Do you understand what Jesus has done to save
00:30:05.600 | you? Would you like to repent and follow Jesus? So warning, the sinner's prayer, you
00:30:10.200 | can go ahead and read through this on your own, but let me just point you to a
00:30:15.400 | few things. Oh, what happened here? Understand that the act of prayer does
00:30:25.840 | not save. Understand that the act of prayer does not save. So people are saved
00:30:32.600 | without praying, like the thief on the cross, and people pray and are not saved.
00:30:36.360 | Prayer is not the switch that activates salvation. All people are saved
00:30:41.640 | completely independent of a sinner's prayer. There is no precedent for a
00:30:45.040 | sinner's prayer in the Bible. It is an invention of man. This is not to say
00:30:48.760 | sinners should not pray, but we are not saved by a scripted sinner's prayer. We
00:30:53.060 | must not lead people to believe simply uttering a prayer secure salvation. There
00:30:56.920 | are some who offer the sinner's prayer on a piece of paper and they sign and
00:30:59.920 | date the paper after saying it. It's dangerous, but repentance will, this is
00:31:04.880 | Roman numeral two, express itself in prayer. Huge difference. So people have
00:31:12.440 | taken point two and then created point one as a result of that. They've
00:31:16.200 | created sinner's prayer as a result of some kind of truth, but remember,
00:31:21.720 | B flows out of A. B does not make A. Does that make sense?
00:31:26.360 | Did I just do something weird there? A relationship with Christ has begun, but
00:31:31.520 | salvation occurs the moment someone turns from his or her sin and places
00:31:35.200 | their hope for salvation in Christ. This is based solely upon the empowering work
00:31:38.640 | of the Holy Spirit and it is based upon Christ's finished work. A repentant person
00:31:42.760 | must understand that the basis for salvation is repentant faith in Christ.
00:31:46.800 | Repentant faith will communicate to God in prayer. There's a clear prayer of
00:31:52.560 | repentance. I like, I really like having this one in my mind. I think it shows
00:31:57.120 | such a clear picture. Luke 18 13, "Be merciful to me a sinner." Ultimately
00:32:02.880 | that's what you want to see in someone in a nutshell. Jesus's comment in verse
00:32:08.160 | 14 reveals that he was saved. Total abandonment of any works contrast to the
00:32:13.200 | Pharisee and crying out for God's mercy will bring salvation. Conclusion.
00:32:19.800 | Repent, which is turning from sin to God and have faith in
00:32:26.840 | Jesus Christ. Present the two together. Continual confessing or agony over sin
00:32:33.000 | without faith will lead to sorrow and mere legalistic resolutions. Faith
00:32:37.160 | without confession is unfounded optimism that leads to self-deception. J. I. Packer
00:32:42.640 | says, "Mere credence without trusting and mere remorse without turning do not save."
00:32:47.120 | That would be worldly sorrow and not godly sorrow. Do not be juked. Do not be
00:32:51.740 | fooled by worldly sorrow. It is important to prompt the repentant person to tell
00:32:56.240 | God all they have learned. Let them use their own words. So it's helpful. First
00:33:01.720 | quarter I took someone through like walking down the steps and helping them
00:33:06.960 | like if you believe this like you can we pray together and ask them to pray and
00:33:11.840 | I said can I pray after and then listening to how they pray will even
00:33:16.880 | help you see do they understand it's pretty cool but when you hear it like
00:33:21.840 | you want to sob like when you hear the real prayer you want to man there's
00:33:26.840 | nothing like it those are the times when I personally as a pastor in ministry it
00:33:31.240 | makes everything worth it okay well obviously we're not gonna do this so
00:33:38.040 | we'll give I wanted to do this with everybody so we'll do the activity next
00:33:41.720 | time but we're gonna do a different activity does any does anyone know what
00:33:45.320 | the order salutus is okay so this is called the order of salvation this is in
00:33:53.720 | Latin so I'm going to oh I guess we can't keep recording we have to try to
00:34:01.960 | place this in order okay so what do you guys think comes first in this list
00:34:09.360 | a different kind of quiz you can't get adopted into your call right regeneration
00:34:37.920 | I'll just go through it just see if you're right we'll talk about that okay
00:34:55.960 | so oh all right these are easy right predestined before the before the
00:35:05.080 | creation of the world Ephesians chapter 1 we have election also there that these
00:35:10.120 | happen concurrently when does the calling occur there's two two
00:35:16.840 | possibilities either from the moment you're born or sometime before you
00:35:23.000 | become a believer it doesn't happen before you're you're born though okay
00:35:27.760 | there's no calling okay and then there's regeneration so Karen you asked a really
00:35:33.040 | good question don't you repent and then you're regenerated but can someone repent
00:35:37.480 | without being regenerated can someone see their sin and cry out for God
00:35:42.640 | without regeneration this is like really let's like play with this idea what do
00:35:48.480 | you think about that
00:35:59.920 | this is I don't know so you would think maybe call okay cool yeah so the reason
00:36:26.840 | why this is really hard is because one two three four five this all happens in
00:36:31.240 | an sometimes in an instant so even though we're putting it linearly here
00:36:36.720 | it's just it happens but regeneration would still probably precede faith and
00:36:41.800 | repentance the reason for that is because this idea of effectual calling
00:36:45.480 | that's that right there effectual calling when God calls he needs to he
00:36:51.120 | needs he's calling someone but that person needs to have ears to hear and
00:36:56.720 | eyes to see before they can do anything right so in Ephesians 2 when it's an
00:37:02.400 | Ephesians 2 chapter 1 when it says you were dead in your trespasses and sins
00:37:05.840 | that you want once you once walked you know you were you were living in
00:37:09.400 | accordance to not all the world only but under its influence under its power
00:37:14.280 | under everything right and so then is there any ability for you to choose God
00:37:20.200 | there is it there is there any ability for you to to even cry out for a savior
00:37:25.000 | there is it right there might be something that echoes it or shadows it
00:37:29.800 | or is a shell of it but what we're doing that's what we're doing as an unbeliever
00:37:33.840 | every day of our lives we're looking for a savior somewhere you know and so when
00:37:38.960 | God calls then he needs to actually bring you alive in order to receive him
00:37:43.400 | you know it's a it's very interesting it actually is important without it being
00:37:49.880 | very it doesn't change much about how we live though
00:38:16.560 | right we have we have we're saying we're trying to get them here because we can't
00:38:21.520 | do anything about there right so actually we can't do any of that so
00:38:26.840 | we're we're hoping that God is using his words through us to call right that's
00:38:32.200 | that's our hope now this right here the reason why I bring it in today is
00:38:35.880 | because when we go out to evangelize this isn't the the our this isn't our
00:38:43.520 | anchoring truth this is our what do you call it it's not the truth that's going
00:38:50.440 | to cause us to move it's the truth that is going to cause us to persevere that's
00:38:55.000 | the way I'd like to say it okay so what I mean by that is like we're not gonna
00:38:58.320 | constantly think like ooh but you know like like how effective is our
00:39:09.320 | evangelism like what's what is the efficacy in this if if we're not if we
00:39:15.360 | can't see certain things right but for us we're saying that all we're trying to
00:39:20.760 | do is we're trying to be in the process and being used by God to to do this and
00:39:25.640 | then when we're trying to think about are they actually a believer we want to
00:39:29.240 | see like do we see some of these things happening in them I don't know if that
00:39:35.680 | was clear so let's use the word salvation and say this is salvation this
00:40:00.080 | whole thing like you a lot of people might even think here up to here at
00:40:03.280 | least right and this is like you know a promise but actually the whole thing is
00:40:07.960 | on that's why you know when we think of justification sanctification
00:40:10.920 | glorification many times we think of it very linearly God doesn't see it as such
00:40:15.320 | how God sees it all what's the passage but he says you have been sanctified
00:40:20.520 | right and that like throws you for a loop you're like what I'm being
00:40:25.560 | sanctified right he says you have been sanctified it is a complete done deal
00:40:30.440 | sometimes he'll say you have been glorified Ephesians chapter 2 is weird
00:40:34.760 | right because it says you were Daniel trespasses but God being rich in mercy
00:40:38.320 | because and he says you have been raised with him right and you have been seated
00:40:43.520 | with him up like you're like isn't that past tense that's a past perfect so it
00:40:52.000 | happened but I'm here and Jesus is up there you know it's kind of weird but
00:40:57.920 | it's because of the way God sees things versus the way we see things so we're
00:41:02.600 | trying to linearly put something into into play to see how kind of it works
00:41:07.120 | logically speaking but what we're saying is God when he looks at it he it's
00:41:13.000 | because of the gravity of the truthfulness of this character okay so
00:41:17.000 | when he says I will save you he sees everything instantaneously as if it was
00:41:21.840 | like done now right because it's that like it's as good as done that's a word
00:41:26.040 | that's a phrase we use right like even though like it's as good as yours even
00:41:31.120 | though I still have it I'm saying I'll give it to you later but you just
00:41:34.120 | consider it yours because like that's how good my word is here like for God
00:41:37.880 | it's all of that right so so the questions are really good but this is
00:41:47.960 | where I don't want us to be so so what I'm saying is like the reason why I
00:41:53.360 | point this out is because it is important but it doesn't we shouldn't be
00:41:57.400 | trying to think of this in the evangelistic sense but what with the
00:42:02.000 | reason I bring this up is because we this is what we're trying to hit I we
00:42:05.920 | want to see regeneration in them okay but we do have this past Friday we had a
00:42:10.120 | meeting after Bible study and what I was saying was hey there are people who like
00:42:14.160 | we're trying to get them to have faith and to repent right like we want to see
00:42:18.080 | that we can't tell them to regenerate though right but we can say like hey can
00:42:22.080 | you repent of your sin we can say that and so when you look at this it's it's
00:42:29.040 | really cool because I think there is a kind of sorry just five more minutes
00:42:35.680 | guys if you need to leave you can leave but I think there is a really secure
00:42:42.160 | comforting type of thought when you realize that maybe they are in the
00:42:48.120 | process of regeneration sometimes you get confused right you want to draw the
00:42:52.120 | line so clear that you're standing here and you're saying until they have faith
00:42:56.600 | and repent that they are not a believer but I think there's a lot of comfort to
00:43:00.360 | be had when you see someone changing and even though you're not sure and you
00:43:04.560 | shouldn't say they're a believer you can take take like man are they I might see
00:43:08.680 | regeneration right now I think that's appropriate to maybe like at least think
00:43:13.400 | about it sometimes that's what gives me that final like when you're exhausted
00:43:17.680 | in ministry you know we're all exhausted in ministry when you're exhausted
00:43:21.600 | hopefully when we're exhausted in ministry that's like that final push
00:43:27.120 | sometimes that makes me like go again and I go again there's like I'm like I
00:43:32.080 | feel like I'm seeing something here you know like and I'll pray God like like is
00:43:38.160 | that is that are you regenerating them and and so I'll go and I like you know
00:43:44.080 | try to try to get them draw them back to the line and see sometimes you'll get to
00:43:49.240 | that line again and they just completely reject it you know like sometimes like
00:43:53.720 | they'll crumble at that line you know and they'll move over and that's really
00:43:59.040 | cool and so and maybe this was a bad idea I didn't want to derail this but
00:44:05.360 | just just to kind of follow through God opens your eyes to see to give you
00:44:10.760 | repentance or a faith right and so you need faith even before you repent that
00:44:16.760 | makes sense right you can't repent unless you have faith if you try to
00:44:21.120 | repent in order to receive faith that's does that make sense no I think 50%
00:44:28.880 | hundred viewers and shake their head okay you need to have faith in order to
00:44:34.200 | repent because think about the words that happen at repentance dear God would
00:44:40.640 | you forgive me of my sin there is nothing good in me I need you doesn't
00:44:46.480 | that sound like faith that sounds like faith right faith actually leads into
00:44:50.800 | repentance and then after repentance justification we always think because of
00:44:57.540 | the Reformation during the time of Martin Luther this became the crown jewel
00:45:01.200 | of the Reformation justification and people say this is this is salvation and
00:45:05.160 | you would say no this is salvation if you say this is salvation man that is a
00:45:11.240 | one-dimensional salvation there's so much it's so much more than that there
00:45:15.680 | are so many more jewels like a diamond that'd be like a one-sided diamond right
00:45:19.360 | you want to see all the facets of it it shines like justification is great but I
00:45:25.560 | personally agree with the Puritans who believe that adoption is the crown jewel
00:45:29.800 | of salvation because if you think about everything you're all now we're we're
00:45:34.440 | not talking about evangelism anymore okay you know what I'm gonna stop I'm
00:45:38.800 | gonna save it so okay
00:45:42.240 | justification is paperwork in heaven and justification is legal it says it
00:45:58.240 | declares your edges and that's that's awesome that's like someone being in the
00:46:03.680 | court and then the judge saying you have to be right here to absolve of your of
00:46:07.640 | your crimes but you'll cry there right especially if like the destination of
00:46:12.880 | punishment was like a great punishment so if you can free from that but but
00:46:17.200 | that's it that's a moment in time where it's been like like in heaven says that
00:46:22.000 | you're declared righteous this is how God sees you know it's been nailed to
00:46:25.720 | the cross is one more but adoption is Wow like adoption you know I love
00:46:32.320 | talking about adoption because this is song that's saved into the kingdom of
00:46:36.320 | God and this is not your daily living this is your identity and no one's
00:46:40.440 | sister and my lives with the identity of just like constantly thinking like I've
00:46:46.840 | been absolved of all my sin and like the paperwork we actually like our daily
00:46:51.240 | living so that criminal was like not freed and becomes like all kinds from
00:46:55.760 | the record the way they live now is different you know and that's more like
00:46:59.800 | adoption and adoption describes is so great because justification will get
00:47:04.760 | into the kingdom of God but adoption gets you into the courtroom of his house
00:47:09.160 | you know it's like man I would love to get in as a beggar like the prodigal
00:47:15.160 | son says right so I just want to be a slave a servant in your household oh
00:47:19.800 | please you know I would beg for that but for him to say like now I call my son
00:47:26.360 | that's that's like tear-jerking you know oh man anyway and then
00:47:33.640 | sanctification obviously is the movement into that adoption says like this is
00:47:38.360 | this is who you are this is your identity sanctification will get to that
00:47:42.080 | no person you know we can't go into all of that so okay so something I did I
00:47:54.520 | used to do last week was to think about someone you're going to be sharing the
00:47:57.240 | gospel so what I'd like to ask you to do on the top of sheet five or evangelism
00:48:03.920 | custom of five that's the today's worksheet and you can you write down the
00:48:09.280 | name of the person and then
00:48:13.600 | somewhere we ran out of time so share with like a person or two who got like
00:48:20.640 | just the name of a person and try to try to get like a green next week a like a
00:48:28.600 | deadline for yourself so I don't normally like to set that
00:48:33.640 | lines on things like this but for the purpose of this class for accountability
00:48:37.720 | to you at least to get yourself out there into a place of an uncomfortable
00:48:42.600 | situation if you can share that deadline with someone so next week we're going to
00:48:50.880 | be moving very quickly please come very much on time I'm just gonna be forthright
00:48:55.520 | with you there is no place next week so just just do all the homework God thank you for
00:49:00.320 | so great a salvation God that the more we study it the more we oh man I just
00:49:09.360 | think you have adoption again thinking of everything you've done from the top
00:49:15.280 | to bottom to monitor just simply safely but there is there is nothing there's
00:49:20.400 | nothing I'm boasting for all of us God there is nothing that we can boast and
00:49:24.640 | you have saved and you alone and father that is our prayer as we go out that
00:49:30.160 | that this salvation has been given to us is something that we cannot retain
00:49:33.760 | inside our own hearts got it it needs to erupt out of our lips it needs to be
00:49:38.880 | something we live all our lives for we don't all need to be pastors and
00:49:42.360 | missionaries but God we do indeed need to pastor and we do indeed need to be
00:49:46.520 | mission and so father I pray for every Christian that we would go out to the
00:49:50.680 | ends of the world to share this gospel and God it will be very close to us as
00:49:55.120 | we talk to people and father that it would cause us to the fallen and needs
00:49:59.040 | to pray for the people that we share the gospel with knowing that you alone can
00:50:04.360 | save Jesus name you pray