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00:00:00.000 | In front of many of us, many of us were so encouraged by witnessing his love for the
00:00:09.960 | word and his seriousness that he takes the call of elder to shepherd and to oversee this
00:00:18.280 | church.
00:00:19.280 | And so this is a part of what he does.
00:00:21.400 | He will do that also by feeding the sheep and helping us and training us and equipping
00:00:26.040 | us so that we might be able to go and do the work of ministry.
00:00:30.200 | And so if you don't know Elder James, you at the very least know very well his wife,
00:00:35.000 | Diane Hong.
00:00:37.440 | She has been married to him for how long?
00:00:39.360 | How long have you guys been married?
00:00:40.600 | Five years?
00:00:41.600 | They've been married for five years.
00:00:43.980 | So they have been here at Berean, especially Elder James has been here for a very long
00:00:49.720 | time.
00:00:50.720 | And Diane, did you guys get married and then you came out, Diane?
00:00:56.280 | Right before?
00:00:57.280 | Okay.
00:00:58.280 | So it's not that you were coming out to Berean and then, okay.
00:01:00.360 | So I don't know what came first, if she loves Berean more or her husband more.
00:01:04.760 | So they are a great example of faith and even just the heart that they have, they pour their
00:01:11.880 | lives out for this church.
00:01:13.840 | And they have been a constant source of encouragement to me, both of them.
00:01:17.720 | And so with that said, we're going to actually just be inviting Elder James to come up and
00:01:21.520 | he's going to be teaching.
00:01:23.380 | And then after a little break, we're going to be having a Q&A after that he as well will
00:01:27.760 | be answering.
00:01:28.760 | So let's give him a round of applause as he comes on up.
00:01:31.960 | Is this on?
00:01:36.160 | Okay, sweet.
00:01:39.600 | So to answer that question, Diane definitely loves Berean more, but that's okay.
00:01:46.360 | So as we begin this seminar, I want you to know that this is a very dense topic.
00:01:54.760 | I'm going to do my best to break this down into elements.
00:01:58.800 | I'm going to make it as elemental as possible so that it's easily digestible.
00:02:03.840 | But I got to tell you, I can only do so much.
00:02:07.640 | You are going to have to listen carefully and absorb what I'm telling you, digest it,
00:02:14.680 | and then at that point, you'll glean from it.
00:02:18.520 | But this is not something that will be understood unless you put your thinking cap on.
00:02:28.560 | It's just the way it is and you'll see why.
00:02:31.800 | So based on that, I'm going to pray and I'm going to give you a little introduction.
00:02:36.560 | Father God, as we tackle this subject, Lord, we know that this is foundational, Lord, to
00:02:45.840 | how we view you and how we view the Word.
00:02:49.780 | My prayer, Lord God, is that for every brother and sister here who hears your voice, that
00:02:54.520 | it will be clear that they would have conviction in your Word, that there will be an internal
00:03:02.840 | renewing, Lord God, and reworking of their worldview if it is contradictory to one that
00:03:09.680 | is of the Bible.
00:03:11.480 | And so as we begin this morning, may you speak to your sheep.
00:03:15.960 | We pray these things in the name of your Son.
00:03:18.480 | Amen.
00:03:19.480 | So when I was in college, right, and I was once in college, a long time ago, I was a
00:03:25.600 | freshman in 1999.
00:03:27.760 | The ARC had just opened.
00:03:31.560 | We had gotten T1 cable, but no Wi-Fi, so I carried a cable around.
00:03:38.200 | So it was a long time ago.
00:03:40.400 | But that's when I began to take my faith seriously.
00:03:44.520 | And one thing that I thought to myself was, "How do I know the Bible is true?
00:03:49.320 | How do I know?
00:03:51.320 | Why are there certain books in the Bible and not other books?
00:03:53.720 | Who got to decide?"
00:03:57.360 | Was someone just there and said, "That's Bible, that's not?"
00:03:59.960 | How did this work?
00:04:01.880 | And I'm sure many of you guys had that same question too.
00:04:06.320 | And this is the thing.
00:04:08.400 | As we go through this material, if you have questions, I want you to write them down and
00:04:12.860 | ask me at the end.
00:04:14.960 | Not in the middle, because I might answer some of your questions as I'm going through
00:04:18.040 | this.
00:04:19.500 | But I want your questions to be answered because I want your faith to be something that is
00:04:25.000 | internally held.
00:04:28.320 | Not because you're here and you have friends here and it's just something that we do.
00:04:33.320 | I want your faith to be genuine.
00:04:36.120 | And God is not afraid to answer your questions.
00:04:40.480 | So because God is not afraid to answer your questions, you should feel free to ask questions.
00:04:46.480 | At the same time, like I said before, it's going to take some mental effort.
00:04:53.300 | This is not an easy subject.
00:04:55.200 | It's not two plus two equals four.
00:04:57.200 | It's a little bit more like calculus.
00:04:58.840 | You can't just do calculus, maybe derivation.
00:05:03.160 | You can't do integration just lying on your bed.
00:05:05.160 | You got to sit up in your seat and you got to, wait, what comes second?
00:05:09.600 | Whatever.
00:05:10.600 | BC, Calc BC.
00:05:12.120 | Second semester.
00:05:13.120 | You have to sit there and you have to do the problem.
00:05:16.160 | This is kind of like that.
00:05:19.360 | The other thing I want you guys to think about is this.
00:05:23.400 | Truth.
00:05:24.400 | Truth.
00:05:25.400 | All truth.
00:05:26.400 | All truth.
00:05:27.400 | By nature, an inherent quality of truth is that it withstands the test of scrutiny.
00:05:37.600 | You guys know what the word scrutiny means, right?
00:05:41.000 | Everything that is true can withstand the test of scrutiny.
00:05:46.800 | Let me give you an easy, now if you're taking BCC, you've heard me give this example before,
00:05:51.120 | but I'll give it again.
00:05:52.640 | Two plus two is four.
00:05:54.040 | Very easy.
00:05:55.840 | No matter how much you scrutinize it, it will always be four.
00:06:00.040 | And it's universal.
00:06:02.360 | Laws of logic are universal.
00:06:04.120 | It doesn't matter whether you're here or in Cambodia or in Senegal or in, what's another
00:06:10.400 | part of the world?
00:06:11.400 | Or in Australia, right?
00:06:13.400 | It doesn't, Antarctica, it doesn't matter where you are in the world.
00:06:18.320 | Laws of logic are universal.
00:06:20.580 | In the same way, truth can withstand the test of scrutiny.
00:06:26.820 | And God's word is true.
00:06:28.940 | And because God's word is true, it can withstand the test of scrutiny.
00:06:34.100 | If something can withstand the test of scrutiny, you're more likely to believe it internally.
00:06:40.660 | You're more likely to believe it internally, right?
00:06:43.640 | If something is not true, you might derive some other benefit from it and you might act
00:06:48.660 | like you believe it, but you don't actually believe it.
00:06:54.820 | But God's word is true and it withstands the test of scrutiny.
00:07:00.980 | The canon of scripture.
00:07:02.940 | An overview of BCC Lesson 4.
00:07:04.900 | In BCC Lesson 4, I'm contrasting this with BCC Lesson 4.
00:07:10.540 | In BCC Lesson 4, we tell you the word of God is true because of its textual reliability,
00:07:15.260 | the number of existing manuscripts, the span of time between the original and the copy,
00:07:19.140 | the internal consistency among existing copies.
00:07:22.360 | Because of its extra-biblical witness, because of its archaeological confirmation, fulfilled
00:07:27.180 | prophecies, consistent witness, and because it says so.
00:07:30.780 | I'm not going to expand upon that because that's BCC Lesson 4, okay?
00:07:35.140 | So if you ever want to know, like if you ever want to refresh your course, just come to
00:07:38.460 | BCC Lesson 4.
00:07:40.100 | But we tell you that, that this is the outline, this is the skeletal outline of BCC Lesson
00:07:44.700 | 4, okay?
00:07:45.700 | The canon of scripture is something a little different, okay?
00:07:49.780 | Canon is not canon, okay?
00:07:53.220 | C-A-N-O-N goes boom, okay?
00:07:57.820 | C-A-N-O-N does not go boom, okay?
00:08:01.460 | Canon comes from the Greek word kanon, which means rule or rod.
00:08:05.420 | This was specifically used in races where runners were supposed to stay in their lanes.
00:08:09.860 | So in the Greek Olympics, right, the canon is the line separating the other runners.
00:08:16.820 | So it's kind of like the rule.
00:08:18.680 | Canon is the rule, okay?
00:08:20.260 | The rule that judges everything else.
00:08:22.420 | So the canon of scripture refers to the books that are the authoritative word of God.
00:08:29.860 | Which books are the authoritative word of God, and that's what it's referring to, okay?
00:08:36.180 | Now this is easier if we go by Old Testament, and then we go by New Testament.
00:08:41.540 | Old Testament.
00:08:42.940 | Why is the Old Testament canon the canon?
00:08:46.040 | Why are the books that we have right now part of the Old Testament canon?
00:08:50.660 | Why are the books that we have right now in the Old Testament the authoritative word of
00:08:54.140 | God?
00:08:55.140 | Because there are other books that were left out.
00:08:56.540 | Why is that the case?
00:08:57.980 | Well, Christ confirms the Old Testament canon.
00:09:02.480 | He confirms the Old Testament canon, right?
00:09:05.160 | He says, "If he called them gods to whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot
00:09:09.500 | be broken," he didn't say, "If he called them gods to whom the word of God came, and the
00:09:14.820 | scripture cannot be broken," except for this one book you have here.
00:09:17.580 | This is wrong.
00:09:18.620 | You shouldn't have inserted this book into the Old Testament.
00:09:20.780 | He doesn't say that.
00:09:22.140 | All he says is, "And the scripture cannot be broken," right?
00:09:25.860 | He also says, "Now he said to them, 'These are my words which I spoke to you while I
00:09:29.580 | was still with you, that all the prophets which are written about me in the law of Moses,
00:09:34.340 | prophets, and the Psalms must be fulfilled.'"
00:09:37.180 | Moses, prophets, and the Psalms.
00:09:40.300 | Again, he's not saying, "Hey, you know the books that you consider the Old Testament?
00:09:45.740 | They're right except for this book."
00:09:48.380 | Or he didn't say, "The law of Moses, the prophets, and the Psalms, but you forgot this other
00:09:53.540 | book.
00:09:54.540 | This is actually also the word of God, and you forgot to include it."
00:09:56.620 | He didn't do that, okay?
00:09:58.860 | And he would have done that if that was the case.
00:10:01.060 | I don't think he's going around healing people, being the Messiah, and there's a book that
00:10:06.100 | actually should have been included that he doesn't tell us about.
00:10:10.340 | That's not how it ... He doesn't do that.
00:10:12.540 | In actuality, he confirms the Old Testament canon, okay?
00:10:17.360 | Another example, "But Jesus answered and said to them, 'You are mistaken, not understanding
00:10:22.140 | the scriptures nor the power of God.'"
00:10:24.860 | He's again confirming the books that are part of the Old Testament canon.
00:10:30.540 | Matthew 5, 18, 26, 53, 256, John 53, John 5, 39 to 47 say the same thing.
00:10:40.700 | Christ confirmed Old Testament events and authors, right?
00:10:43.540 | Here, he says Abel was real, talked about Noah and the flood, Daniel and Isaiah, that
00:10:48.780 | Moses wrote the Pentateuch, Isaiah wrote Isaiah, Jonah wrote Jonah, Daniel wrote Daniel.
00:10:53.660 | I mean, you get the picture, right?
00:10:56.080 | He didn't say, "Oh, that story about Noah and the flood?
00:10:59.280 | All a myth.
00:11:00.740 | Just kidding about that."
00:11:01.740 | He didn't say, "Well, his name wasn't Abel.
00:11:03.900 | It was actually James," or ... He doesn't say that, right?
00:11:08.780 | He confirms all these events of the Old Testament.
00:11:11.980 | If they were not real, guess what he would have done?
00:11:15.020 | He would have told us, right?
00:11:16.760 | But he doesn't do that.
00:11:18.060 | Instead, he calls it the very Word of God.
00:11:23.260 | Bible discoveries confirm the Old Testament canon.
00:11:27.380 | The Masoretic text, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Nash Papyrus,
00:11:32.700 | the Silver Amulets, and the Septuagint.
00:11:35.220 | I want to highlight two.
00:11:36.920 | There's more, but I want to highlight two.
00:11:38.580 | The Masoretic text, okay?
00:11:41.020 | The Masoretes were known to faithfully preserve the Old Testament.
00:11:45.700 | That's who they were.
00:11:46.700 | They were kind of like a tribal clan that were devoted to making sure the scriptures
00:11:55.180 | were accurate.
00:11:56.720 | That is what they were known for, okay?
00:11:59.260 | For a long period of time, the entire Old Testament canon was derived from the Masoretes.
00:12:07.060 | Faithful Jews would use the Masoretic text.
00:12:11.100 | The Masoretic text, though, dated back to about 1000 AD.
00:12:15.340 | 900 to 1000 AD, around there, okay?
00:12:18.580 | So kind of like instinctually you think, okay, it doesn't seem like it now.
00:12:25.220 | There's no reason to not have faith in that for all the reasons that I will get into.
00:12:29.740 | But it spans about a thousand years from the time of Christ.
00:12:35.620 | The Dead Sea Scrolls.
00:12:37.420 | The Dead Sea Scrolls.
00:12:39.700 | Now in 1947, there's this farmer dude, okay?
00:12:42.660 | And this farmer dude went in some caves.
00:12:46.140 | And in caves, he found a treasure trove of scrolls dating back to the Qumran community
00:12:52.380 | of the Essenes, okay?
00:12:53.860 | What's great about that is, what's great about that is, these manuscripts that go back to
00:12:58.060 | the Qumran community, they date to before the time of Christ to right around the time
00:13:02.740 | of Christ, okay?
00:13:04.660 | Which was, and that's great, because remember, Christ confirms the Old Testament canon, right?
00:13:11.620 | So if Christ confirms the Old Testament canon, we just need to know, what was he looking
00:13:17.380 | at at the time?
00:13:18.380 | I hope everyone's following me with that, okay?
00:13:22.220 | Christ confirms the Old Testament canon.
00:13:24.620 | So if he confirms the Old Testament canon, what did he have at the time with respect
00:13:30.060 | to the Old Testament?
00:13:32.020 | We go to the Dead Sea Scrolls, there's about a thousand manuscripts belonging to the Qumran
00:13:35.660 | community, it validates the Masoretic Text.
00:13:39.420 | It just completely validates the Masoretic Text.
00:13:42.220 | So the Masoretic Text was accurate, okay?
00:13:45.260 | We already knew that, but the Dead Sea Scrolls, going back to the time of Christ, confirms
00:13:51.340 | the Masoretic Text, okay?
00:13:54.180 | Now fundamentally, I want you guys to understand this, okay?
00:13:57.700 | I don't want to take this for granted, okay?
00:14:00.900 | Whatever Christ said was true.
00:14:04.200 | Whatever Christ said was true.
00:14:06.740 | That is foundational.
00:14:09.140 | And Christ himself says, "If you don't believe me, at least believe because of the works."
00:14:15.580 | He gave a very logical argument.
00:14:17.380 | You don't believe I'm the son of God?
00:14:20.020 | Then what am I doing, right?
00:14:22.460 | What am I doing?
00:14:24.240 | This guy couldn't hear, and now he could hear.
00:14:27.660 | This guy couldn't see, and now he could see.
00:14:30.440 | My friend Lazarus over there, the guy you know, Lazarus, he was dead, but I raised him
00:14:34.880 | from the dead.
00:14:36.360 | So if he has shown you, okay, by this arsenal of works, then you can believe him.
00:14:44.320 | Let me give you another example, okay?
00:14:46.660 | Let me give you one that correlates to us, okay?
00:14:50.460 | Common day, like modern day reality, okay?
00:14:53.240 | If I told you that I could fly, if I told you I can fly, nobody would believe me.
00:15:00.080 | You wouldn't believe me?
00:15:01.140 | Or you would think maybe he has a Jetman Dubai pack or something, right?
00:15:04.960 | The Iron Man dude, right?
00:15:07.000 | That's what you would think.
00:15:08.000 | And I say, "No, no, no, no.
00:15:09.060 | I could fly inherently.
00:15:10.480 | I could just intrinsically fly.
00:15:12.280 | Nobody would believe me."
00:15:13.740 | The first best thing would be to show you, would just fly, right?
00:15:18.920 | Then you might be like, "Oh, you can actually fly."
00:15:21.220 | But you know what else I can do that might make you believe me?
00:15:24.800 | I'll go out there, and I'll lift a car with one hand.
00:15:28.840 | I'll lift a car with one hand.
00:15:30.000 | Now, that's not directly related to flying, but you'll be like, "Oh, this guy can lift
00:15:34.120 | a car with one hand.
00:15:35.640 | Maybe he can fly.
00:15:37.640 | Maybe he can fly."
00:15:38.640 | Things would start, like, loosening up to you, right?
00:15:42.420 | So my point is this, right?
00:15:44.780 | In a similar way, in a similar way, when Jesus says, "I am the Son of God, and if you don't
00:15:50.120 | believe me, at least believe because of the works," his situation was even more precise
00:15:55.200 | because the Messiah was predicted to do what Jesus did.
00:15:59.960 | The Messiah would come, and he would what?
00:16:03.100 | He would heal people.
00:16:04.200 | He would physically heal people.
00:16:06.400 | And it's not like miracles are happening every day in the Middle East.
00:16:10.920 | Just every year, there's a miracle.
00:16:12.240 | No, miracles never happen.
00:16:13.680 | Just like us today, they never happened.
00:16:16.740 | And so the validator, one of the validators of the Messiah was not only the fact that
00:16:21.720 | he was going to be born here, he was going to be of this tribe, and he was going to be
00:16:27.360 | some odd years after Cyrus.
00:16:29.880 | Those are all validators.
00:16:31.540 | But the other validator of the power of the Messiah was he was going to make the mute
00:16:37.440 | speak, make the dumb hear, make the blind see, and raise the dead.
00:16:43.540 | And who does that?
00:16:45.200 | Christ does that.
00:16:46.600 | So when Christ does that, he's exhibiting his power.
00:16:50.420 | So he's making a very logical argument to the Jews of the day, "You don't believe I'm
00:16:54.620 | the Son of God."
00:16:55.620 | Okay, you don't believe I'm the Son of God.
00:16:57.720 | Then how am I doing all these works?
00:16:59.920 | Because as you know, the Messiah was going to do all these works.
00:17:03.320 | And that is the same thing, the same question that he posits to every unbeliever here today.
00:17:11.540 | Everyone in the world, maybe even in this room.
00:17:14.860 | If you don't think that he has the power to do that, then what do you make of every single
00:17:20.400 | miracle that he's ever, ever done?
00:17:23.520 | And you might say, "Well, there's a problem, Mr. James.
00:17:25.960 | The problem is I wasn't around at the time."
00:17:31.040 | But a lot of people that saw the risen Christ perform these miracles recorded them.
00:17:37.020 | Even those who were antagonistic to Christ the Messiah recorded that he did these miracles
00:17:43.680 | because it was undeniable.
00:17:45.840 | People who saw the risen Christ perform these miracles were put to death because they couldn't
00:17:51.400 | deny that truth.
00:17:52.400 | Okay?
00:17:53.400 | So I don't want to take anything for granted, but when I say Christ confirms the Old Testament
00:17:57.160 | canon, there's a huge underpinning, there's a huge foundational understanding of why that's
00:18:03.080 | important.
00:18:05.040 | That's important because of who he is.
00:18:07.700 | And therefore, knowing who he is, if he confirms the Old Testament canon, then all we need
00:18:13.000 | to do is find out what was the Old Testament at the time.
00:18:17.560 | This tells us, the Masoretic text and the finding of the dead sea scrolls, it tells
00:18:22.800 | us the Masoretic text at the time, excuse me, the Old Testament canon at the time is
00:18:27.400 | the Old Testament that we have today.
00:18:28.960 | It is the same Old Testament the Jews use today.
00:18:32.680 | Okay?
00:18:33.720 | So that's a little dense, okay?
00:18:35.800 | But I wanted to do that so that I take nothing for granted, okay?
00:18:39.000 | That's the Old Testament canon, and I'm done with the Old Testament canon.
00:18:42.280 | Let's move to the New Testament canon.
00:18:44.560 | And the reason the Old Testament canon is a lot easier is this, okay?
00:18:50.160 | The Old Testament canon is confirmed by Christ very explicitly, just like I told you, right?
00:18:55.680 | But Christ dies, resurrects, and then the New Testament is written.
00:19:01.080 | So the analysis is a little bit different, right?
00:19:04.240 | He doesn't resurrect, go to heaven, come back and say, "The New Testament that you have,
00:19:10.120 | it's legit."
00:19:11.120 | He doesn't do that, right?
00:19:12.680 | With the Old Testament, he said, "It's legit."
00:19:15.960 | But he doesn't do that with the New Testament.
00:19:17.760 | So our analysis is a little bit different in relation to the canon from the Old Testament
00:19:22.320 | and the New Testament, okay?
00:19:24.080 | So the New Testament canon, let's talk about criterion, okay?
00:19:27.440 | An evaluation of the canon must have established criteria.
00:19:30.240 | It must.
00:19:32.600 | But because the criteria is necessarily, in a sense, greater than what is being judged,
00:19:38.000 | the model for the canon must be self-authenticating, okay?
00:19:41.160 | All right.
00:19:42.160 | I want to take some time to break this down, okay?
00:19:46.960 | When you have a criteria, that criteria is usually greater than the thing being judged.
00:19:53.280 | Let me give you another example, okay?
00:19:56.420 | When you have a show like American Idol or whatever, Masked Singer or whatever these
00:19:59.840 | shows, right?
00:20:00.840 | The people that are judging these singers are usually professional singers, right?
00:20:05.320 | And they're usually good professional singers, right?
00:20:07.880 | It would be weird if you had someone who never sang a tune, who knew nothing about singing,
00:20:14.440 | judging these other singers.
00:20:16.160 | That wouldn't make any sense.
00:20:17.640 | So what do you do?
00:20:18.640 | You take a judge who is experienced, because that person can be a faithful judge of what
00:20:24.360 | good singing actually is.
00:20:26.560 | Now, all this is not new to you, right?
00:20:29.440 | But I'm trying to paint the picture.
00:20:30.960 | When I say this, when I make this statement, the criteria is, in a sense, greater than
00:20:36.520 | what is being judged, we all agree on that.
00:20:39.280 | You might not cognizantly understand it, but we all kind of subtly understand it to ourselves
00:20:44.400 | internally, okay?
00:20:45.920 | So because that's the case, because that is the case, the model has to be self-authenticating,
00:20:53.280 | because what is greater than the Word of God?
00:20:55.760 | What is greater?
00:20:56.760 | There's nothing that's greater than the Word of God, okay?
00:20:59.800 | Now in the past, a canon was validated using the following components.
00:21:03.160 | First, first-perception, historical origins, okay?
00:21:06.600 | What I mean by that is, traditionally, when we looked at the study of the canon, right,
00:21:12.680 | we typically looked at the early church, what did they receive, and/or historically, what
00:21:19.200 | book came first in time.
00:21:20.720 | Now, that's not necessarily wrong, but the problem is, the early church is not greater
00:21:25.560 | than the Word of God.
00:21:27.880 | Coming first in time does not make you greater than the Word of God.
00:21:33.160 | I mean, if heresy sprouted up before the book of Revelation, that doesn't make, the heresy
00:21:37.960 | is not greater than the book of Revelation, right?
00:21:40.880 | So in of itself, that's not how you judge the canon, that shouldn't be how you judge
00:21:45.140 | the canon, because that's not greater than the canon, okay?
00:21:49.480 | The following components seem to emerge, okay?
00:21:53.480 | Divine qualities, apostolic origins, and corporate reception.
00:21:57.200 | I'm gonna go over all this, okay?
00:21:58.800 | So when we are doing a faithful investigation of the canon of Scripture, these are the three
00:22:05.400 | things that you wanna look at.
00:22:06.600 | I'm gonna explain each of them to you, and as I explain them to you, you're going to
00:22:11.600 | understand why, okay?
00:22:13.320 | But I wanna give you a heads up.
00:22:15.680 | Divine qualities, apostolic origins, and corporate reception.
00:22:20.560 | Before I move on to the next slide, okay?
00:22:23.600 | Because something is self-authenticating does not mean it is unfair or cheap.
00:22:31.600 | Does not mean that.
00:22:32.600 | You think, "Oh, something is something because it says so."
00:22:36.640 | That doesn't make something cheap, okay?
00:22:38.040 | Let me give you an example, alright?
00:22:41.560 | If you were, okay, to judge whether or not this phone is actually real, your sensory
00:22:47.040 | perception, you wanna judge whether your sensory perception is actually real.
00:22:52.240 | What would you do?
00:22:54.320 | You would rely on your sensory perception.
00:22:56.360 | You would touch this phone.
00:22:57.660 | You would ask someone else, "Do you see that phone?"
00:23:00.380 | You would employ your senses because everything that is foundational is self-authenticating.
00:23:09.400 | Everything that is foundational is self-authenticating, okay?
00:23:14.400 | You can't get more basic than elements.
00:23:17.280 | Elements are what you start out with, okay?
00:23:19.800 | So not only with respect to the canon of scripture, anything that is true, any element that is
00:23:27.000 | true will be self-authenticating, okay?
00:23:32.400 | Prove that the number, prove that two is two.
00:23:35.400 | You can't do that.
00:23:36.400 | Two is just two.
00:23:37.800 | It is a foundational requirement that two is two, right?
00:23:41.600 | If you're an artist in here, primary colors, right?
00:23:45.700 | You can mix other colors, but there are primary colors that are what they are.
00:23:50.740 | You can't get more basic than the primary colors.
00:23:53.380 | The other colors that come after the primary colors are based on the foundational colors,
00:23:58.580 | right?
00:23:59.620 | In life, things that are foundational, not just the canon of scripture, anything in life
00:24:04.400 | that is foundational is self-authenticating, okay?
00:24:08.940 | That doesn't make it any less true, okay?
00:24:13.020 | You'll see why in a second.
00:24:14.980 | Okay, so let's go to divine qualities, okay?
00:24:17.980 | When I say divine qualities, when I say divine qualities, right?
00:24:21.260 | When I say divine, okay?
00:24:22.740 | I don't mean good, I don't mean great, right?
00:24:25.860 | I don't mean like a dessert you eat, oh my gosh, it's so divine, right?
00:24:29.300 | No.
00:24:30.300 | When I say divine, I mean the word divine in its just pure intellectual sense, godlike,
00:24:38.220 | of God.
00:24:39.660 | So when you look at which scriptures are the authoritative word of God, they must exhibit
00:24:46.740 | a godlike nature to them, okay?
00:24:49.800 | That's what I mean when I say divine qualities.
00:24:51.600 | So when you look at scripture, right?
00:24:53.780 | Psalm 19, 1.
00:24:55.420 | The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.
00:25:00.580 | So that the natural attests to God, were not the scriptures, okay?
00:25:04.700 | Romans 1, 20.
00:25:05.700 | Since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes, his eternal power, and divine
00:25:09.860 | nature would have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so
00:25:13.100 | that they are without excuse.
00:25:14.860 | If general revelation speaks of God, how much more would special revelation?
00:25:19.820 | If nature speaks of God, how much more his word, his explicit word, okay?
00:25:26.620 | Scripture brings wisdom.
00:25:27.620 | Psalm 1, 19, 98.
00:25:29.680 | It provides light to dark paths.
00:25:31.380 | Psalm 1, 19, 105.
00:25:33.100 | It gives joy to the heart.
00:25:34.580 | It gives understanding to the mind.
00:25:36.180 | It gives peace and comfort.
00:25:37.540 | It exposes sin and guilt.
00:25:39.100 | It leads to prosperity and blessing, okay?
00:25:42.260 | Again, when you look at scripture, it does these things.
00:25:46.780 | There is no other work that does these things, okay?
00:25:51.580 | Now the early church fathers agreed on the divinity of scriptures.
00:25:55.380 | Now I know this might seem to have a little bit less weight, okay?
00:25:59.580 | But the reason why it shouldn't is because when you look at that the early church fathers
00:26:04.240 | are a fancy word for saying, you know, there's the apostles and there are the people who
00:26:09.220 | are discipled by the apostles directly, okay?
00:26:12.380 | And then there are people who are discipled directly by the people right underneath them
00:26:16.540 | and so on, okay?
00:26:17.540 | And you get to a point in time and it cuts off, but generally speaking, those are the
00:26:21.940 | early church fathers, okay?
00:26:23.660 | So for example, if you were an apostle Peter's small group, okay?
00:26:26.940 | You would have been an early church, well, and you met the criterion for being elder,
00:26:31.660 | at the very least you would need to do that and you could theoretically be an early church
00:26:34.560 | father.
00:26:35.560 | Not that there was like a ad in the paper, that's not what I'm saying, but they're disciples,
00:26:40.680 | okay?
00:26:41.680 | These are their disciples, okay?
00:26:43.840 | So understanding the nature of scripture, right?
00:26:47.600 | And being exposed, being the first one, so to speak, to be exposed to it are some of
00:26:51.520 | these people.
00:26:52.520 | So Jerome stated that Philemon was a document which has in it so much of the beauty of the
00:26:56.040 | gospel.
00:26:57.040 | Clement stated that no one will be so impressed by the exhortations of any of the saints as
00:27:01.360 | he is by the words of the Lord himself.
00:27:04.040 | Origen defends Hebrews on the grounds that the ideas of the epistle are magnificent and
00:27:07.920 | say that the gospels are accompanied with divine power.
00:27:10.400 | Irenaeus said the gospels are always breathing out immortality on every side and vivifying
00:27:14.700 | men afresh.
00:27:17.360 | If you have spent time in the scriptures, then you know what I'm talking about.
00:27:24.960 | There is no other document, there is no other work of antiquity that speaks to your soul
00:27:31.320 | like the scriptures.
00:27:33.320 | If you haven't, then this is just like, well, some men said so to you, okay?
00:27:37.080 | I mean, I can't do much about that, but if you have experienced the power of God through
00:27:42.680 | the scriptures, if they have brought salvation to you, if they have exposed you, right?
00:27:48.840 | Exposed your sin, exposed your guilt, and at the same time healing you, you should understand
00:27:54.560 | that no other document does that.
00:27:56.800 | No man or woman could have written you a letter and have the same effect on you, okay?
00:28:02.800 | Moreover, if you look at the doctrinal unity of scripture, the precise doctrinal unity
00:28:09.040 | it gets right and is consistent with the nature of God, the nature of man, the nature of sin,
00:28:14.840 | the authority of scripture, the nature of the church, the person of Christ, the work
00:28:17.680 | of Christ, the holiness, redemption.
00:28:20.960 | These are topics that are not just broad in scope, but that are easy to be inconsistent
00:28:28.280 | with, because they are so broad in scope.
00:28:32.200 | And not only are they so broad in scope, but man over the course of history, especially
00:28:39.040 | in different time periods and different cultures, would not have doctrinal unity, okay?
00:28:46.120 | What we thought in this culture, even in America, right, now in the 90s is completely different.
00:28:52.520 | And I know, because I was alive at the time, right?
00:28:56.360 | Even if you go back to the 80s, it was completely different, right?
00:29:00.480 | And I don't want to get into politics, like, "Oh, it's more like left," or whatever else,
00:29:03.880 | right?
00:29:04.880 | My only point is, it is what was acceptable today is not necessarily what was acceptable
00:29:09.600 | in the 90s.
00:29:10.880 | And the same would have been true if you lived through the 90s, right?
00:29:14.520 | What was acceptable in the 90s is not necessarily what was acceptable in the 70s, and so forth.
00:29:22.320 | The ideals and values seem to change over time, especially across cultures.
00:29:30.040 | The Bible, right, beginning from Genesis to Revelation, was written over a period of about
00:29:36.920 | 1500 years.
00:29:39.440 | Different men.
00:29:40.960 | Different time periods.
00:29:42.240 | Different languages.
00:29:44.480 | But there is this precise unity with respect to these topics.
00:29:50.960 | And these topics are not, they're not like mathematical equations.
00:29:57.880 | They are abstract concepts, but yet there is precise unity with them.
00:30:03.720 | Okay?
00:30:05.320 | Now, redemptive historical unity.
00:30:08.220 | From Genesis to Revelation, the Bible is telling the same overarching redemptive story of God.
00:30:14.280 | Reconciling himself to mankind.
00:30:16.920 | There's structural unity, okay?
00:30:18.720 | The Gospels seem to correlate with the historical narratives that recount redemption.
00:30:23.440 | The Epistles and the Prophets seem to have similarities in their expansion upon God's
00:30:26.240 | redemptive work.
00:30:27.240 | Revelation and Deuteronomy both speak of blessings and cursings, and the warning against editing.
00:30:31.680 | Okay.
00:30:32.680 | When I say the Gospels seem to correlate with the historical narratives that recount redemption,
00:30:36.040 | right?
00:30:37.040 | I'm going to talk about this more later, right?
00:30:39.680 | But when you see the nation of Israel come out of Egypt, you have redemption, and then
00:30:46.280 | you have the expansion of that work, right?
00:30:50.160 | Via the other books.
00:30:51.560 | Okay?
00:30:52.560 | The Gospels seem to do that.
00:30:53.840 | Okay?
00:30:54.840 | You have the Gospels, and then you have the expansion of that work via the Epistles.
00:31:00.800 | That's my point.
00:31:02.800 | Okay?
00:31:04.880 | Canonical structure.
00:31:05.880 | Moses, Elijah, David, the Law, the Prophets, and the Psalms.
00:31:11.160 | Plus Gospels, the Acts in General Epistles, Pauline Epistles, and Revelation would be
00:31:15.840 | seen as a uniform seven sections.
00:31:18.400 | Okay?
00:31:19.840 | Seven is a number for completeness in the Bible.
00:31:23.120 | Right?
00:31:24.600 | Seven days in a week.
00:31:25.680 | Who created that?
00:31:27.440 | God created that.
00:31:28.440 | Okay?
00:31:29.440 | So when you look at Moses, Elijah, David, right?
00:31:32.280 | Plus the New Testament structure, it adds up to seven, right?
00:31:35.960 | In Genesis, seven plays a key role.
00:31:37.760 | In Revelation, the number seven plays a key role.
00:31:40.320 | Seven is representative of completeness.
00:31:41.920 | Okay?
00:31:42.920 | Let me give you another example of that.
00:31:45.040 | Okay?
00:31:46.040 | In Genesis and Revelation, right?
00:31:47.320 | In Genesis, you have the creation of the earth.
00:31:49.160 | In Revelation, you have the recreation of heaven and earth.
00:31:51.520 | In Genesis, you have paradise and Eden.
00:31:53.360 | In Revelation, you have paradise and heaven.
00:31:55.120 | In Genesis, you have the theme of marriage.
00:31:57.040 | In Revelation, you have the great wedding of the lamb.
00:31:59.160 | In Genesis, you have the serpent's deception.
00:32:01.280 | In Revelation, you have the serpent's destruction.
00:32:03.280 | The curse upon the world, the curse is lifted.
00:32:05.600 | Tree of life, tree of life, God dwells with his people.
00:32:08.840 | God dwells with his people.
00:32:09.840 | You seem to have bookends.
00:32:11.840 | How interesting.
00:32:14.160 | The number seven plays a key role in Genesis.
00:32:16.680 | The number seven plays a key role in Revelation.
00:32:19.800 | There is the beginning with respect to the content of Revelation.
00:32:23.760 | There is the redemption, the fulfillment, the end, whatever you want to call it, contained
00:32:28.960 | within the structure and the content of the book of Revelation.
00:32:32.880 | They seem to be nice bookends to each other.
00:32:36.960 | How did that happen?
00:32:39.080 | How did that happen?
00:32:41.920 | Okay.
00:32:43.760 | Divine qualities.
00:32:44.760 | That was divine qualities, okay?
00:32:47.880 | I'm going on to apostolic origins.
00:32:51.120 | Apostolic origins.
00:32:53.080 | As I continue to speak about points number two and points number three, okay?
00:32:58.560 | What I'm beginning to show you is, right, the word of God is the word of God because
00:33:05.880 | of these three points.
00:33:08.360 | And these three points are self-impressing on us, okay?
00:33:12.760 | They are self-authenticating.
00:33:14.560 | I'm going to wrap that up at the end.
00:33:16.000 | I'm going to wrap that up at the end.
00:33:17.880 | But I want to kind of get you in that mindset, okay?
00:33:21.200 | The word of God, if the word was God, he's going to impress it upon his people, all right?
00:33:29.720 | Okay.
00:33:30.720 | The old covenant was accepted as having been a compilation of documents.
00:33:34.960 | You don't believe me?
00:33:35.960 | It says right here, Exodus 24, the book of the covenant.
00:33:39.400 | Exodus 34, he wrote the words of the covenant.
00:33:41.520 | Deuteronomy 29, the covenant written in this book.
00:33:44.520 | Paul calls the Old Testament the old covenant.
00:33:47.160 | So the old covenant was a compilation of documents.
00:33:52.120 | That's what the old covenant was, right?
00:33:54.600 | So it's not like when we get to the New Testament, it's like this new strange concept.
00:33:59.480 | The skeletal structure for the New Testament canon is already there because in the Old
00:34:04.440 | Testament, they understood it as a compilation of documents.
00:34:08.720 | Second Corinthians 3.14 says this, "But their minds were hardened for until this very day
00:34:12.820 | at the reading of the old covenant, the same veil remains unlifted because it is removed
00:34:17.120 | in Christ."
00:34:18.520 | The Old Testament is the old covenant, and the old covenant was a compilation of documents,
00:34:25.680 | right?
00:34:27.080 | But the apostles were ministers of the new covenant, okay?
00:34:32.080 | So you have the old covenant, it's a compilation of documents, and then you have the old covenant,
00:34:37.320 | and then you have a new covenant, okay?
00:34:39.280 | So if you're a Jew and you know that the Old Testament is a compilation of documents and
00:34:43.220 | you're waiting for this new covenant, it's not gonna be a surprise to you that the New
00:34:47.600 | Testament, right, the new covenant is going to be a compilation of documents, okay?
00:34:52.760 | Jeremiah 31, "Behold, days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant
00:34:57.620 | with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah."
00:34:59.660 | Matthew 26.28, "For this is my blood of the covenant which is poured out for many for
00:35:03.820 | forgiveness of sins."
00:35:04.940 | Second Corinthians 3.6, "Which also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not
00:35:11.820 | of the letter but of the spirit, for the letter kills but the spirit gives life."
00:35:16.240 | The old covenant is a compilation of documents.
00:35:18.640 | When you hear about this new covenant, it's going to also be a compilation of documents,
00:35:23.360 | okay?
00:35:24.440 | Consider the redemption motif in the Old Testament, okay?
00:35:27.520 | Consider this, okay?
00:35:28.520 | I am the Lord your God.
00:35:30.200 | I bring you out of Egypt.
00:35:32.300 | And then what happens?
00:35:34.480 | He gives you books.
00:35:35.740 | He gives you commandments.
00:35:36.960 | He tells you what to do.
00:35:37.960 | Well, that's interesting.
00:35:39.560 | So there's redemption and then there's words that are related to this redemption?
00:35:46.000 | Is that what happened in the Old Testament?
00:35:47.880 | Yes, it did.
00:35:49.180 | He saves you and after he saves you, he gives you instructions.
00:35:54.240 | He expands upon that, right?
00:35:56.820 | That's what happened in the Old Testament.
00:35:59.760 | The promises of blessings and cursings, the copies of the covenant.
00:36:02.520 | Isaiah was directed to write prophecies on scrolls.
00:36:05.080 | The New Testament states that the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God, right?
00:36:09.200 | So there's a pattern here already, right?
00:36:12.420 | Once there's redemption, God tells you about this redemption.
00:36:16.160 | He gives you an identity.
00:36:17.480 | He gives you instructions and the prophets remind them of this when they fall, okay?
00:36:22.080 | So this is not anything new.
00:36:24.560 | When we get to the New Testament, what do we have?
00:36:28.600 | We have redemption, right?
00:36:29.880 | Jesus dies on the cross.
00:36:32.760 | There's forgiveness of sins and then we have instructions.
00:36:36.320 | How do you run a church?
00:36:37.560 | Who am I now in Christ?
00:36:38.980 | What is the power that I have in Christ?
00:36:41.120 | It's the same exact pattern, okay?
00:36:46.080 | How would this message go to the nations, right?
00:36:48.920 | Jesus commissioned his apostles so that they might be with him and he might send them out
00:36:53.200 | to preach and have authority to cast out demons, right?
00:36:57.320 | He also said to the apostles that he was sending out his apostles as Jesus was sent out by
00:37:01.560 | the Father.
00:37:02.680 | Peter stated that the apostles were chosen by God as witnesses.
00:37:06.060 | Why is apostolic origins important?
00:37:09.520 | Why?
00:37:10.920 | Why is it important?
00:37:12.640 | Yes, they were with Christ.
00:37:15.080 | Yes, they were with Christ as he's doing ministry.
00:37:20.400 | But very specifically, Jesus is saying of his apostles that he's commissioning them
00:37:26.520 | and he's giving them his authority that they're gonna be chosen by God as witnesses.
00:37:31.600 | That's very directly what Jesus said about the apostles.
00:37:35.720 | That is why apostolic origins is so important.
00:37:38.760 | He didn't say, he didn't say that about everyone across time.
00:37:43.180 | If he did, then we'd all be writing the New Testament.
00:37:46.440 | And guess what?
00:37:47.640 | We're not doing that, right?
00:37:49.480 | The reason we're not doing that is contained within the parameters of scripture, okay?
00:37:55.760 | I'm gonna go on and I'm gonna show you some more passages, okay?
00:37:59.720 | The apostles were likened to the Old Testament prophets, which means they have the authority
00:38:04.360 | to speak God's word.
00:38:06.080 | Second Peter 3.2.
00:38:07.400 | You should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord
00:38:11.480 | and Savior through your apostles.
00:38:13.040 | Well, that's interesting.
00:38:14.040 | What did he just do here?
00:38:17.720 | Remember the holy prophets.
00:38:18.720 | Who's he referring to?
00:38:20.320 | Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, right?
00:38:23.000 | Haggai, Malachi, Amos, right?
00:38:25.000 | They accepted them as messengers of God, right?
00:38:30.840 | There's no debate there.
00:38:32.360 | There's absolutely no debate.
00:38:34.200 | Those guys were of God.
00:38:36.360 | But what else does Peter say?
00:38:40.480 | And the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles.
00:38:46.340 | He puts the prophets on par with the apostles.
00:38:49.280 | You guys see that?
00:38:51.960 | Right here in this passage, he's putting the prophets on par with the apostles.
00:38:55.960 | He didn't say, "Trust the holy prophets and everyone who has the Holy Spirit that comes
00:39:00.760 | after me."
00:39:01.760 | He doesn't say that, okay?
00:39:03.620 | There's a select group here, a select office here, the holy prophets, which you and I are
00:39:08.920 | not a part of, okay?
00:39:10.440 | That office is done, right?
00:39:12.760 | I'm talking about the Old Testament prophets, okay?
00:39:15.200 | There are no more Old Testament prophets because the Old Testament is done.
00:39:18.200 | That is static, right?
00:39:20.040 | There's Old Testament prophets and they are done, okay?
00:39:23.600 | In the same way, and then he also says apostles.
00:39:27.900 | Apostles are also done.
00:39:29.160 | There is no such thing as I'm an apostle of Christ.
00:39:32.020 | They were a select group of men.
00:39:36.160 | Remember your word through the prophets and through the apostles, okay?
00:39:41.420 | That's why apostolic origins is so important, okay?
00:39:44.440 | The writer of Hebrews likens the Old Testament with the message of the apostles.
00:39:47.760 | In Hebrews 2, 2-3, he talks about the Old Testament and then he talks about the New
00:39:53.440 | Testament being on equal footing.
00:39:57.600 | The apostles say that the message they are conveying is really just a message of Jesus
00:40:01.280 | that is stated in the form of a tradition.
00:40:04.840 | When you and I say the word tradition, you and I mean like I have a tradition.
00:40:08.680 | I go to Krispy Kreme after my finals every single quarter, right?
00:40:13.400 | It's not something that's like sacred.
00:40:14.940 | It's just something that you do.
00:40:16.440 | And then if you don't do it, it's not a big deal, right?
00:40:19.800 | When the apostles refer to something like with respect to a tradition, what they're
00:40:24.160 | saying is I received it from Christ and now I'm giving it to you.
00:40:28.840 | It's not flippant like going to Krispy Kreme, okay?
00:40:31.880 | This is I got the words of Jesus and now I'm giving it to you.
00:40:36.600 | First Corinthians 11-23, "For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you,
00:40:42.000 | that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread."
00:40:44.080 | What is he saying here, right?
00:40:46.000 | I received this from Jesus.
00:40:49.000 | Who wrote First Corinthians 11?
00:40:51.280 | Yeah, he wasn't there.
00:40:54.640 | Apostle Paul wasn't there.
00:40:56.160 | He got saved later.
00:40:59.000 | But he received this from the Lord.
00:41:01.500 | He received this directly from the Lord and now I'm giving it to you.
00:41:05.640 | Second Thessalonians 3-6, "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus
00:41:09.840 | Christ, that you keep away from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according
00:41:14.040 | to the tradition which you received from us."
00:41:16.680 | Keep away from everyone who doesn't abide by the tradition that you received from us.
00:41:20.960 | He's not saying keep away from everyone who doesn't go to Krispy Kreme with us after finals,
00:41:25.600 | right?
00:41:26.600 | What he's saying is keep away from everyone from the tradition you received because that
00:41:29.720 | tradition is the word of God.
00:41:34.160 | That tradition that I'm giving to you, I received it from the Lord Jesus, okay?
00:41:39.400 | Second Corinthians 15, "I deliver it to you as a first importance which I also received."
00:41:44.120 | I delivered it to you and I just received it, right?
00:41:49.360 | The apostles had this kind of office.
00:41:51.560 | We don't, okay?
00:41:54.440 | Luke 1-2, "Just as they were handed down to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses
00:41:59.040 | and servants of the word."
00:42:01.040 | You see this very large importance and I'm understating that, right, when he says large
00:42:05.920 | importance.
00:42:08.480 | This heavy responsibility that the apostles were privileged with having with respect to
00:42:15.400 | the word of God.
00:42:16.400 | They were receiving direct revelation from Christ and they were giving it to us, okay?
00:42:24.280 | Jesus said that that would happen, alright?
00:42:26.360 | Let me keep going, okay?
00:42:28.480 | "The church was built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself
00:42:33.240 | being the cornerstone."
00:42:34.240 | Right?
00:42:35.240 | That's Ephesians 2-20.
00:42:36.800 | "Therefore, the apostles were to safeguard and vault the faith that was once for all
00:42:41.200 | delivered to the saints."
00:42:42.720 | Jude 3.
00:42:43.720 | Jude only has one chapter, so verse 3, right?
00:42:46.600 | In Jude verse 3, chapter 1 verse 3, Jude says, "The faith that was once for all delivered
00:42:53.760 | to the saints."
00:42:54.760 | Jude didn't say, "The faith that is ongoing and we're going to keep writing scripture."
00:42:58.680 | No, no, no, no.
00:43:00.120 | The faith, it was once for all delivered to the saints.
00:43:04.320 | So this faith, it's done, okay?
00:43:08.280 | This is the faith, okay?
00:43:10.640 | Everyone else that comes after us preserves the faith that we have.
00:43:16.000 | You don't write like, "Oh, I got a revelation from God.
00:43:19.160 | You know, my name is Joseph Smith and I saw God."
00:43:21.200 | No, no, no, no, no, okay?
00:43:23.880 | It is once for all delivered to the saints.
00:43:28.080 | There is no Mohammed, there is no Buddha, there is no one else.
00:43:31.200 | There is no guru, there is no one else.
00:43:33.560 | This faith is once for all delivered to the saints.
00:43:36.880 | The saints that come afterwards safeguard, they vault, they preserve, they get it right.
00:43:46.720 | So given that the apostles were cognizant of writing the Old Testament, writing the
00:43:50.920 | New Testament, they made corollary claims.
00:43:53.360 | What am I saying here?
00:43:55.600 | The apostles knew that they were writing the New Testament.
00:43:57.880 | It wasn't like, you know, they were like walking, right?
00:44:01.120 | And then Peter goes, "I need to use the bathroom."
00:44:03.240 | And then Paul goes, "That's scripture."
00:44:04.840 | "Oh, did I just speak scripture?"
00:44:08.040 | That's not how it happened, okay?
00:44:09.960 | They knew that they were speaking scripture.
00:44:14.000 | How do I know this?
00:44:15.000 | Okay, 1 Timothy 5.18, "For the scripture says, 'You shall not muzzle the ox while it is threshing,
00:44:20.680 | and the laborer is worthy of his wages.'"
00:44:23.040 | That first portion, "You shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing," comes in Deuteronomy.
00:44:27.880 | "The laborer is worthy of his wages," comes from Luke 10.7.
00:44:34.760 | So in 1 Timothy 5.18, he's quoting Luke 10.7.
00:44:41.080 | They already know from this point early on what is scripture, okay?
00:44:46.360 | Second Peter 3.16, "As also in all his letters, speaking in them of things in which are some
00:44:52.000 | things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the
00:44:58.320 | rest of scriptures to their own destruction."
00:45:01.840 | You see what he did there, Peter?
00:45:05.400 | He just said Paul's letters are scripture.
00:45:07.000 | You see that?
00:45:08.000 | "As they do also the rest of the scriptures."
00:45:13.480 | So they distort all of that.
00:45:15.520 | They distort God's Word, right?
00:45:17.080 | They're just distorting Paul's letters, just like they do the rest of scriptures.
00:45:21.960 | So he's just nonchalantly.
00:45:25.800 | For them at the time, they understood.
00:45:29.240 | For the most part, they understood.
00:45:31.280 | So it's not like he needs to say, "Oh, this is scripture?"
00:45:35.880 | Not at the time, okay?
00:45:37.440 | So because there was an understanding, at least just generally speaking, he's saying
00:45:41.680 | this kind of almost offhand, "As they do the rest of scriptures."
00:45:45.720 | John 21.24, "This is the disciple who was testifying to these things and wrote these
00:45:50.000 | things, and we know that his testimony is true."
00:45:55.240 | He's testifying to these things, and he wrote these things, and we know that his testimony
00:46:01.880 | is true.
00:46:02.880 | 1 Thessalonians 2.13, "For this reason, we also constantly thank God that when you received
00:46:06.840 | the Word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the Word of men, but for
00:46:11.800 | what it really is, the Word of God, which also performs its work in you who believe.
00:46:19.280 | I am glad that when you heard what I told you, you didn't accept it as the Word of men,
00:46:24.520 | but for what it really is, the Word of God."
00:46:29.640 | They were cognizant when they were writing the New Testament that this is God's Word.
00:46:34.440 | Or else how would they know what is God's Word and what is not?
00:46:38.320 | Because again, like I told you before, it's not like they were just walking around and
00:46:41.600 | everything that's like, everything Apostle Paul said is God's Word, right?
00:46:45.640 | That is not true, right?
00:46:50.400 | 2 Thessalonians 2.15, "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which
00:46:54.400 | you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us."
00:47:00.440 | Stand firm and hold to the traditions.
00:47:02.720 | Again, when he says traditions, I just showed you a whole bunch of verses, right?
00:47:07.840 | Which I received from the Lord Jesus, right?
00:47:10.480 | Not a tradition like, again, like you and me, every year we do this, every quarter we
00:47:14.440 | do this.
00:47:15.440 | But a tradition in this context is what did they receive from the Lord Jesus.
00:47:22.040 | So hold on to the traditions because it is the Word of God.
00:47:26.880 | 1 Corinthians 14, "If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize
00:47:31.720 | the things which I write to you are the Lord's commandment.
00:47:34.000 | But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized."
00:47:38.560 | So if you think you're godly, then you should recognize that what I'm saying to you is from
00:47:44.200 | God.
00:47:45.800 | He's saying that right here.
00:47:47.200 | Paul's saying that right here in 1 Corinthians 14, right?
00:47:50.840 | 2 Corinthians 12, "Because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations for this reason,
00:47:56.080 | to keep me from exalting myself, there was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger
00:47:59.200 | of Satan to torment me, to keep me from exalting myself.
00:48:02.400 | Concerning this, I implored the Lord three times that I might leave me.
00:48:05.080 | And he has said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.'"
00:48:11.760 | Very specifically, Paul's saying here, "And he said to me, God said to me, 'My grace is
00:48:18.440 | sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.'"
00:48:22.000 | He knew what Scripture was.
00:48:27.060 | And all these thoughts are building upon that, okay?
00:48:30.960 | 1 John 1-5, "What was from the beginning?
00:48:35.320 | What we heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we looked at and touched with our
00:48:38.840 | hands, concerning the word of life, and the life was manifested, and we have seen and
00:48:42.800 | testify and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested
00:48:46.480 | to us.
00:48:47.480 | What we have seen and heard, we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship
00:48:50.480 | with us.
00:48:51.480 | And indeed, our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ."
00:48:54.880 | These things, these things, we, apostles, we write.
00:49:05.480 | They were very cognizant that they were writing the new covenant.
00:49:10.040 | Paul said, "We are the ministers of the new covenant."
00:49:13.540 | Paul said, "You accepted it not as the word of man, but as the word of God."
00:49:17.340 | Paul said, "You should recognize it that it's the word of God."
00:49:21.160 | Paul said, "This is the tradition which I got from the Lord Jesus."
00:49:24.760 | Paul said, "The Lord said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you.'"
00:49:29.240 | The apostolic office was special and different from us.
00:49:34.960 | We're actually receiving words from God and preserving it, vaulting it, putting it in
00:49:42.320 | a safe.
00:49:46.560 | Revelation 1, 1-3.
00:49:47.560 | "The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his bondservants."
00:49:55.120 | God gave him to show to his bondservants.
00:50:00.120 | Who are his bondservants?
00:50:02.520 | You know his bondservants are.
00:50:06.120 | God gave him to show to his bondservants.
00:50:10.400 | God showed his bondservants.
00:50:14.400 | God didn't show it to you and me, not in this way.
00:50:17.960 | You and I are reading about it.
00:50:19.120 | You and I are obeying it, okay?
00:50:21.840 | But you and I are not apostles.
00:50:24.400 | We come after the fact.
00:50:25.720 | We preserve it.
00:50:26.720 | We fight for it.
00:50:27.720 | But we are not apostles.
00:50:29.600 | Verse 3, "Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy."
00:50:35.560 | How are you going to read something unless it's written down?
00:50:39.640 | How are you going to read something unless it's written down?
00:50:42.200 | Exodus 4, 11-12, okay?
00:50:43.920 | "The Lord said to him, 'Who has made man's mouth?
00:50:49.040 | Or who makes them mute or deaf or seeing or blind?
00:50:51.760 | Is it not I, the Lord?
00:50:53.720 | Now then go and even I will be with your mouth.'"
00:51:02.400 | If God created the world, he created space, he created time, he can move mouths to make
00:51:11.920 | the New Testament.
00:51:14.200 | This is not going to be hard for him.
00:51:16.120 | Right?
00:51:17.120 | Oh, how do we make sure that we got it right?
00:51:19.640 | If God wants to get it right, he will get it right, okay?
00:51:23.360 | Deuteronomy 18-18, 18 verse 18, "I will raise up a prophet from among their countrymen like
00:51:29.240 | you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command
00:51:37.120 | him."
00:51:39.960 | This is a prophecy of Christ.
00:51:43.320 | This is a prophecy of Christ.
00:51:44.320 | If you've never studied Deuteronomy 18, this is referring to Christ.
00:51:47.480 | "I'm going to raise up a prophet from among you.
00:51:50.960 | I'm going to put my words in his mouth."
00:51:54.720 | Okay?
00:51:56.160 | John 14, "These things I have spoken to you while abiding with you, but the Helper, the
00:52:02.680 | Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and
00:52:12.320 | bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."
00:52:19.960 | John 14, who is Jesus speaking to?
00:52:23.000 | That's right.
00:52:24.960 | What is he saying here?
00:52:27.120 | You guys are filled with sin, so you might get this wrong.
00:52:30.360 | You guys are unfaithful, so you might get this wrong.
00:52:34.280 | Apostolic origins is important not because of the greatness of the apostles, but because
00:52:41.280 | of what Jesus said.
00:52:43.760 | He is telling them, "The Holy Spirit is going to teach you all things and bring to your
00:52:50.840 | remembrance all that I said to you."
00:52:52.840 | Now, I know when we read John 14, we think of it as individually, personally.
00:52:58.200 | That's how we interpret it.
00:52:59.280 | We read this passage and we think, "God is going to allow me to understand all things."
00:53:03.880 | Right?
00:53:04.880 | But he didn't promise you that you're going to take an exam and you're going to remember
00:53:09.800 | everything that you studied.
00:53:10.800 | He didn't make that promise to you.
00:53:12.680 | He didn't promise you that you're going to read scripture and that you're going to remember
00:53:15.440 | everything that you read that morning.
00:53:17.760 | You do your devos and then in the afternoon you totally forgot.
00:53:21.280 | How do I know?
00:53:22.400 | You probably read something about anger and then you're ticked off in the afternoon.
00:53:26.400 | Right?
00:53:27.520 | John 14 is primarily not speaking about an individual relationship with God.
00:53:35.480 | Now, I'm not saying that principle isn't there.
00:53:39.480 | Because the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit.
00:53:41.880 | Okay?
00:53:43.040 | But firstly, Jesus is talking to his men and he's saying to them, "He's going to teach
00:53:52.240 | you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."
00:53:58.280 | The things that you forgot that are important, Holy Spirit is going to remind you of those
00:54:02.760 | things.
00:54:03.760 | In fact, there are things that you don't know, Holy Spirit is going to teach you.
00:54:08.120 | John 16, "I have many more things to say to you but you cannot bear them now."
00:54:12.200 | I want to tell you like, you know, the qualities of an elder, the qualities of a deacon, how
00:54:16.200 | to run a church, but you can't bear them now because you're stressing out.
00:54:20.560 | But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth.
00:54:28.640 | Oh, this is a promise.
00:54:32.960 | This is a promise here.
00:54:34.600 | He's going to guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own initiative,
00:54:39.160 | but whatever he hears, he will speak and he will disclose to you what is to come.
00:54:45.000 | He will glorify me for he will take of mine and will disclose it to you.
00:54:48.000 | All things that the Father has are mine, therefore I said that he takes of mine and will disclose
00:54:52.920 | it to you.
00:54:55.200 | Everything that the Holy Spirit teaches to you will be from me.
00:55:01.480 | That's what Christ is saying.
00:55:02.840 | Right?
00:55:03.840 | That's what he's saying here.
00:55:05.440 | Okay?
00:55:06.440 | He will guide you into all the truth.
00:55:11.160 | Whatever he hears, he will speak and he will disclose it to you.
00:55:16.160 | This is a promise here.
00:55:17.820 | This is a promise here to his men.
00:55:20.120 | So you see why apostolic origins is so important here.
00:55:24.200 | Right?
00:55:25.200 | This is not a promise to every believer through the history of time that they're going to
00:55:30.520 | write a New Testament.
00:55:32.880 | No.
00:55:34.600 | What he's saying here is he's saying to his men that the Holy Spirit is going to disclose
00:55:39.520 | to you.
00:55:41.520 | He's going to tell you.
00:55:43.200 | He's going to show you.
00:55:45.680 | I want to tell you these things right now, but you can't handle it.
00:55:50.280 | But when the Holy Spirit comes, you'll be able to handle it.
00:55:55.240 | Remember, Jesus was about to die.
00:55:58.400 | He's going away.
00:55:59.400 | Right?
00:56:00.400 | And all they knew for the last three years was Christ.
00:56:02.480 | That's all they knew.
00:56:03.480 | The last three years, all they knew was Christ.
00:56:05.760 | And as long as they're with Christ, they're victorious.
00:56:10.240 | How are we going to feed these people?
00:56:11.480 | Bam.
00:56:12.480 | How are we going to feed these people?
00:56:13.480 | Bam.
00:56:14.480 | Right?
00:56:15.480 | We're about to drown.
00:56:16.480 | Bam.
00:56:17.480 | Right?
00:56:18.480 | As long as they're with Christ, things are good.
00:56:20.920 | But Christ is going away.
00:56:23.800 | So they are kind of stressed out.
00:56:27.520 | So Christ is saying, "I got more things I want to tell you, but you can't bear it right
00:56:33.040 | now.
00:56:34.040 | But it's okay.
00:56:35.040 | The Holy Spirit's going to come, and he's going to guide you, not into some truth, but
00:56:40.000 | into all truth."
00:56:44.320 | So what about the books that were not penned directly by the apostles?
00:56:47.760 | Well, Luke was a close traveling companion of Paul through Acts.
00:56:51.120 | Okay?
00:56:52.120 | And verses are right there.
00:56:53.400 | Mark is mentioned as a son of Peter in 1 Peter 5.13.
00:56:57.480 | James was recognized nearly from the beginning as a leader.
00:57:00.680 | Judah was a brother of James and Jesus.
00:57:02.960 | And Hebrews was actually recognized to have Pauline authorship early on.
00:57:05.920 | I know we debate about that, but at least early on, it was recognized to have Pauline
00:57:09.960 | authorship.
00:57:10.960 | Okay?
00:57:11.960 | So every single book in the New Testament is either penned directly by an apostle or
00:57:17.760 | with someone with close association to an apostle.
00:57:20.640 | You can consider it apostolic literature because of the closeness of their relationship.
00:57:25.080 | That apostle was directly involved.
00:57:29.160 | Okay?
00:57:32.000 | Corporate reception.
00:57:34.080 | Corporate reception.
00:57:36.080 | Okay.
00:57:37.760 | Divine qualities, apostolic origins, and corporate reception.
00:57:45.120 | These have been, so far, our criteria for the canon of Scripture.
00:57:50.400 | Okay?
00:57:51.480 | They are self-authenticating.
00:57:55.040 | They are self-authenticating because God's Word has to be self-authenticating.
00:58:01.360 | The reason God's Word has to be self-authenticating is because there is nothing greater than God's
00:58:07.080 | Word.
00:58:08.560 | There's nothing greater than God's Word.
00:58:10.560 | So if you're going to authenticate God's Word, it's going to come in the fashion of an attribute.
00:58:19.000 | Okay?
00:58:20.120 | So when I say the criteria of the canon, criteria for the canon of Scripture, a better word
00:58:26.160 | is actually attributes of a canon of Scripture.
00:58:29.960 | The canon of Scripture exhibits these three qualities.
00:58:33.680 | Okay?
00:58:35.080 | These three factors here.
00:58:36.080 | I'm going to use the word criteria.
00:58:37.680 | That's fine.
00:58:38.680 | But I'm trying to press upon you, okay, why it has to be self-authenticating, why being
00:58:47.560 | self-authenticating is remarkably impressive, right?
00:58:52.520 | And with respect to anything, not just God's Word.
00:58:55.920 | Remember, let me say it again.
00:58:58.280 | Anything that is fundamental.
00:59:00.980 | Anything that is foundational.
00:59:02.880 | We're not giving like a separate, "Oh, God's Word gets special treatment."
00:59:05.960 | We're not doing that, okay?
00:59:07.760 | Anything that is fundamental and anything that is foundational is going to be self-authenticating.
00:59:14.160 | And I just used the example of sensory perception to you, right?
00:59:17.400 | I used the example of the laws of logic, okay?
00:59:20.040 | I hope you guys are following me here.
00:59:22.940 | Point number three.
00:59:24.960 | Point number three.
00:59:26.840 | Corporate reception.
00:59:29.080 | If God's Word has divine qualities, if it has apostolic origins, then it's going to
00:59:38.040 | be received as God's Word.
00:59:40.400 | Why is it going to be received as God's Word?
00:59:43.200 | Why?
00:59:44.200 | Because the Holy Spirit dwells in you.
00:59:46.660 | If the Holy Spirit dwells in you, it's not so much you recognizing that it's Scripture,
00:59:52.840 | it's the Holy Spirit within you hearing Scripture and recognizing it, okay?
01:00:00.000 | You know what that's akin to?
01:00:02.000 | Sanctification, right?
01:00:04.160 | You're justified.
01:00:05.160 | Did you do that?
01:00:06.160 | No.
01:00:07.160 | God did that, right?
01:00:09.200 | And then you embark on the road of sanctification.
01:00:13.720 | But is it really you?
01:00:14.720 | Well, it's the Holy Spirit within you, right?
01:00:17.000 | Now, don't get me wrong.
01:00:18.840 | You are accountable for your sins, right?
01:00:22.040 | But outside the power of the Holy Spirit, you would succumb to your flesh.
01:00:26.560 | So it's similar in that sense where God is working all aspects.
01:00:31.680 | Every single aspect, He's working it by Himself, okay?
01:00:34.440 | So New Testament characterization, okay?
01:00:37.640 | And regard the patience of our Lord, 2 Peter 3.15 to 16, right?
01:00:41.440 | So I'm quoting this verse again.
01:00:42.800 | I quoted it earlier, right?
01:00:45.680 | But look at it within the lens of corporate reception.
01:00:48.700 | And Peter says here, "As they do also the rest of the Scriptures," right?
01:00:55.720 | There's the angle in which it is apostolic origins because he's likening Paul, right,
01:01:02.560 | what he's writing to the rest of Scriptures.
01:01:04.880 | So there is that angle to it.
01:01:06.820 | But the other angle to it is that Peter's audience understands that this is Scripture.
01:01:15.080 | He understands it.
01:01:16.360 | He's not making a defense for it.
01:01:17.640 | Like, by the way, Paul's letters are Scripture for these reasons.
01:01:21.440 | He's not doing that.
01:01:23.200 | He's just kind of saying it casually, like an offhand comment, right?
01:01:27.800 | He's just saying, "As they do the rest of Scriptures."
01:01:30.280 | That only works if they already received it as Scriptures.
01:01:35.720 | That only works if they already received it as Scriptures, right?
01:01:39.580 | If I were to say to you, right, if I were to say it to you, right, yeah, like, you know,
01:01:44.160 | it's like, you know, like, you know, blah, blah, like, you know, blah, blah, is the goat
01:01:48.520 | of Tom Brady.
01:01:51.440 | Just use Tom Brady, okay?
01:01:52.440 | Tom Brady is the goat, right?
01:01:54.320 | He's the goat of football.
01:01:57.320 | He's just the goat.
01:01:58.400 | He's like the Michael Jordan of football.
01:02:01.100 | If I were to say that to you and no one, like, pushes back, it's because we all agree that
01:02:07.060 | Michael Jordan is the goat.
01:02:09.520 | In the same way, greatest of all time, in the same way, when he says, "The rest of the
01:02:15.160 | Scriptures," there's no defense here.
01:02:18.760 | He's not saying, "And let me give you a reason why, like, Paul's letters are--" He's not
01:02:22.080 | doing that, right?
01:02:24.040 | And the reason he doesn't have to do that is because they already accepted it as Scripture.
01:02:29.160 | So you know that the audience, from this very early point on, they've already received it
01:02:34.480 | as Scripture, okay?
01:02:36.080 | Peter claims apostolic authority and calls Paul his brother, right?
01:02:40.120 | This will lend itself to the idea that Peter is also writing Scripture.
01:02:43.920 | First Timothy 5.18, I know I'm quoting the same verses again, or at least some of the
01:02:48.120 | same verses, but I want you to see it in a different angle, okay?
01:02:53.240 | If he's just quoting Scripture, he says, "For the Scripture says," right?
01:02:57.820 | And there's no pushback here.
01:02:58.920 | "For the Scripture says, 'You shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing.
01:03:02.580 | The labor is worthy of his wages.'"
01:03:04.520 | The audience must have understood this as Scripture because he's not giving a defense
01:03:09.800 | for it.
01:03:10.880 | What that means is that from the earliest point on, from the very earliest point on,
01:03:17.300 | they understood this as God's Word.
01:03:19.920 | They understood it as Scripture.
01:03:22.520 | Second Peter 3.2, prophets and apostles are juxtaposed, right?
01:03:29.400 | There's no defense here.
01:03:30.400 | "Yeah, you know, you should listen to us because Jesus said so."
01:03:33.160 | He doesn't go on this defense here, right?
01:03:35.640 | He just says, "Listen to the holy prophets and listen to us," right?
01:03:41.660 | So then we know that the audience must have understood that and received that because
01:03:47.240 | he doesn't go on a defense here.
01:03:49.540 | He doesn't do that here.
01:03:51.320 | First Corinthians 14, "If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize
01:03:54.720 | that things which I write to you are the Lord's commandment."
01:03:57.320 | Same type of thinking.
01:03:58.980 | Same exact type of thinking.
01:04:00.640 | Hebrews 2.2-3, "For the word spoken through the angels proved unalterable and every transgression
01:04:05.680 | and disobedience received a just penalty."
01:04:07.560 | How will we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?
01:04:10.200 | "After it was at first spoken through the Lord, it was confirmed to us by those who
01:04:15.600 | heard."
01:04:20.360 | The word spoken through the angels, Old Testament.
01:04:24.120 | That's another way of saying the Old Testament, okay?
01:04:28.400 | How are we going to neglect so great a salvation after it was first spoken through the Lord,
01:04:33.560 | that's Jesus, and confirmed to us by those who heard?
01:04:39.840 | How are you going to escape this?
01:04:43.200 | Because this, what the writer of Hebrews is saying is, "This is greater."
01:04:48.200 | If those guys didn't escape judgment, how are we going to escape judgment?
01:04:53.280 | Because we heard it.
01:04:54.480 | So very early on, right, we know that they understood this as Scripture.
01:04:59.920 | First Timothy 3.15, "But in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought
01:05:04.240 | to conduct himself."
01:05:05.240 | Right?
01:05:06.240 | There's no, again, there's no defense here.
01:05:09.040 | First Peter 2.5, "You also as living stones are being built up as a spiritual house for
01:05:13.080 | holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ."
01:05:19.400 | Think about this here.
01:05:22.040 | Corporately, you and I are being built up by the Holy Spirit.
01:05:31.560 | Okay?
01:05:33.640 | How is that going to work unless the church receives God's Word?
01:05:39.640 | It's not going to work.
01:05:41.160 | The church must receive God's Word.
01:05:44.120 | The church will receive God's Word because you and I are living stones.
01:05:49.040 | First Corinthians 12.13, "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether
01:05:54.960 | Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit."
01:06:02.200 | All of us, every single one of us, baptized by one Spirit.
01:06:05.480 | Of course, of course the church is going to receive His Word.
01:06:10.720 | Of course.
01:06:12.600 | Because we are all living stones.
01:06:15.520 | all baptized into one body. Let me give you another example of corporate
01:06:21.340 | reception, okay? New Testament public reading can be traced to the public
01:06:25.160 | reading of the Old Testament texts, okay? What do I mean by that? In the old test,
01:06:29.960 | in the synagogue, you know what they would do? They would kind of have, like,
01:06:34.440 | something like sermons. And they would read the Old Testament. They just read it.
01:06:39.540 | They would just read it. Boom, read, read, read, read, read. Oh, but then a special
01:06:45.680 | instruction came about. Oh, what was this? Have my letter read among you. That's
01:06:52.680 | interesting. This began to replace the Old Testament reading of text.
01:06:59.680 | Colossians 4 16. When this letter is read among you, have it also read in the
01:07:03.520 | Church of the Laodiceans, and you, for your part, read my letter that is coming from
01:07:07.080 | Laodicea. I urge you by the Lord to have this letter read to all the brethren.
01:07:12.120 | Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and
01:07:15.600 | heed the things which are written, for the time is near. Until I come, give
01:07:21.120 | attention to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation and teaching.
01:07:26.920 | That is significant because the Old Testament practice was to read God's
01:07:33.520 | Word. When you and I read this, we just think, "Hey, Paul has an update." You know
01:07:37.800 | like when the missionary comes up and he kind of gives you an update? No, it's
01:07:40.240 | not the same thing. Okay? The public reading of Scripture was reading God's
01:07:45.520 | Word. But something, ouch, something is beginning to replace the reading of Old
01:07:54.520 | Testament texts. That ain't gonna happen unless it's the New Testament. You guys
01:08:05.320 | are following me, right? When public reading of Scripture, okay, it is not like
01:08:11.840 | you and me, missionary comes up, he gives an update, blah blah blah. Okay? Public
01:08:18.320 | reading of Scripture is like, instead of Pastor Peter speaking, have someone else
01:08:22.280 | speak. You're gonna take that as a sermon. That's gonna be a sermon to you,
01:08:27.800 | right? So in here, when there was the Old Testament reading of public
01:08:33.200 | reading, it was of Scripture. But this began to take its place. So corporately,
01:08:40.680 | very early on, they received it as the Word of God. Okay? The apostolic fathers
01:08:49.520 | acknowledge apostolic authority and the authority of the New Testament. Okay,
01:08:52.920 | apostolic fathers is a very fancy way of saying the people who were in the
01:08:58.120 | Apostle small group. Okay? So whoever was in, like, that's, okay, they're disciples.
01:09:03.360 | Okay? So Apostle Peter's disciple. Apostle John's disciple. Paul's disciple. Matthew's,
01:09:14.640 | Nathanael's disciple. Like, they're disciples. Okay? Collectively as a group,
01:09:20.000 | right, were the apostolic fathers. When I say early church fathers, it's like a
01:09:25.880 | time period. There's like generations. Okay? And you can kind of cut it off at some
01:09:30.040 | point, but like, that's what I'm talking about. The early church fathers. So
01:09:34.040 | apostolic fathers go within the group of the early church fathers. But the
01:09:38.640 | apostolic fathers are the ones who learned directly from the Apostles.
01:09:42.840 | Directly. Okay? So Clement says, "Take up the epistles of the blessed Apostle Paul.
01:09:48.080 | To be sure, he sent you a letter in the spirit concerning himself and Cephas and
01:09:52.280 | Apollos. The Apostles received the gospel for us from the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus
01:09:57.080 | Christ was sent from God. The Christ, therefore, is from God and the Apostles
01:10:00.880 | from Christ." So very early on, they were taught that the Apostles were speaking
01:10:08.560 | the Word of God. And they were taught that because the Apostles taught them
01:10:14.560 | that. The Apostles taught them that because Jesus said it would happen. So
01:10:21.840 | the power doesn't come from the Apostles. The power comes from God. So let me go
01:10:28.400 | back here. Okay? So I don't want anyone to miss this point. We talk about divine
01:10:32.880 | qualities. We talk about apostolic origins. And we talk about corporate
01:10:36.800 | reception. Those three points are important because God has said so. Okay?
01:10:44.080 | Jesus comes on the scene. He confirms the Old Testament. Right? If the Old Testament
01:10:51.280 | at the time wasn't the Old Testament, he would have said, "Take Job out. Take Psalms
01:10:55.800 | out. Take Deuteronomy out." He doesn't do that. Okay? And remember, this is the same
01:11:01.640 | man who made Lazarus rise from the dead. Do you want to know if Jesus is an
01:11:06.560 | actual historical figure as opposed to a myth? Everyone that saw Jesus, okay,
01:11:14.480 | couldn't deny who he was. Historians who hated Christians wrote that Jesus
01:11:21.760 | existed. Do you know why? Because they couldn't deny who he was. Let me give you
01:11:26.680 | an example. If you're a hardcore Republican and you hate Barack Obama, can
01:11:31.120 | you deny that he was the president? No. No. You can't deny that he was a president.
01:11:36.200 | If you're a hardcore Democrat and you hate Donald Trump, can you deny that he's
01:11:40.560 | the president? No. You can't deny it. You can say, "I don't like him," but you can't
01:11:44.400 | deny it. It's the same thing with Jesus. There were historians commissioned by
01:11:48.920 | Rome who hated Jesus, who hated Christians, but they couldn't deny that
01:11:55.360 | he existed. They couldn't deny it. Do you know why? Because he did everything in
01:11:59.840 | public, which is in direct contradiction to every single religious figure that
01:12:06.040 | has existed through time. No one, not all religions are equal, not all ideas are
01:12:12.520 | equal. That is malarkey. All men are created equal because we're all men and
01:12:17.560 | women, because we're made in the image of God, but not all ideas are equal, not all
01:12:21.760 | religions are equal. The reason Christianity stands in stark contrast to
01:12:25.560 | every other single religion is because of Jesus Christ, okay? So what happened,
01:12:31.200 | okay, what happened was people would see the risen Christ. He's obviously God
01:12:36.600 | because he's raising people from the dead. You guys can't deny it. Rome can't
01:12:40.680 | deny it. After the fact, they want to squash Christians, so they say, "Deny the
01:12:46.080 | fact that Jesus is the Christ or you die," and you know what a lot of people
01:12:49.800 | chose? They chose death. These are historical facts. So a lot of people who
01:12:56.000 | saw the resurrected Christ said, "I'm not gonna deny him," and they just died. Some
01:12:59.960 | of these people were thrown into the Colosseum. Some of them were lit on fire,
01:13:03.800 | okay? Let me further this for you. I say the same thing in
01:13:09.880 | BCC Lesson 4, but let me give you this other example, okay? If you and I saw the
01:13:14.000 | risen Christ, right, if you and I saw the risen Christ and we don't believe in him,
01:13:17.520 | there's no actual faith, okay? If you put a gun to my head and you say, "Deny Christ
01:13:22.520 | or I'm gonna shoot you," I don't care if it's true. I don't care. I'm just gonna
01:13:28.120 | say, I'm just gonna say, "I deny him." You know why? Even though it's true, I don't
01:13:35.760 | want to die. I don't want to die. So I'm gonna be like, "Yeah, I saw him do all
01:13:42.080 | that, but I don't really care. So yeah, Jesus, yeah, he's, I don't, like, whatever
01:13:45.920 | they're saying, I disavow everything that they're saying." You and I are gonna do
01:13:51.440 | that. But for some reason, this figure, this man, is different. For some reason,
01:13:59.760 | people saw him, right? People saw him. He claimed he was God. He claimed he was the
01:14:05.960 | Messiah. He claimed that he will give you life. He claimed that you should follow
01:14:10.960 | him. And after that, he rose from the dead and people said, "What do you want me to
01:14:18.920 | do?" The man rose from the dead. "So I'm gonna trust him, even though you kill me.
01:14:25.320 | Just kill me." "Well, I'm gonna throw you and your kid into the Coliseum. I'm gonna
01:14:31.200 | light you on fire, and I'm gonna light your kid on fire." "Well, this is kind of hard."
01:14:36.920 | But I saw him rise from the dead. I saw him rise from the dead. And he told me that
01:14:43.800 | you would kill me. He told me that you were gonna do this to me. I don't want to
01:14:49.560 | die. I don't want to see my kid burned. But I can't deny him. And so a lot of
01:14:54.840 | people face that. So when I tell you Christ confirms the Old Testament canon,
01:14:59.440 | that's the power behind it. Okay? He's not just some other guy, "Oh, this is church, so
01:15:06.120 | when he says Jesus, every correct answer is Jesus." That's not what I'm saying. Okay?
01:15:10.720 | There's a lot that goes into Christ confirming the Old Testament canon. Okay?
01:15:15.760 | If you just reduce it to, "Oh, this is church, so he can say Jesus," right? That
01:15:21.560 | is extremely anti-intellectual. That is extremely anti-intellectual. It is
01:15:26.960 | unfaithful to reason, and frankly, you just probably don't want to believe in
01:15:31.480 | God, and that's why you think that. But it is not because you're intellectual. It is
01:15:37.480 | not because you're intellectual. In fact, it is the exact opposite. Okay? That was a
01:15:41.840 | little pause right there, because I felt like I had to do it. Alright? So let me go
01:15:45.040 | on here. Point number two. The Didache was an early Christian manual of church
01:15:49.880 | practice. Okay? So the Didache, right, is like a manual. It's like an instruction
01:15:55.200 | guide, right? And it had all this scripture in it. It had all this
01:16:00.000 | scripture in it. Tons of scripture. From very early on, let me go back to
01:16:05.400 | something Jude said in verse 3. Chapter 1. There's only one chapter. Verse 3. Right?
01:16:10.440 | It is once for all delivered to the saints. Once for all. It's not this
01:16:14.400 | ongoing thing, "Let's all write scripture. You write scripture. I write
01:16:18.060 | scripture." No. It is once for all delivered to the saints. Right? The fact
01:16:22.520 | that the Didache, going back to about a hundred AD, encapsulates this. Right? Okay.
01:16:30.840 | Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, said, he quoted various parts of the New Testament as
01:16:36.600 | saying, "It is written." You only say, "It is written," as if it's God's Word. Polycarp,
01:16:41.680 | quoted from various parts of the New Testament. Papias, Bishop of Hierapolis,
01:16:46.200 | also quoted parts of the New Testament. Okay? You see the apostolic fathers, they
01:16:51.240 | quoted the Gospels and the Apollonian Epistles more frequently than any other work.
01:16:55.200 | They rarely quote outside of the New Testament. Rarely. Christianity was
01:17:03.840 | distinguished from other religions in that it was prolific in the production
01:17:07.280 | of manuscripts. Christianity was interesting. Okay? It was very, very
01:17:13.960 | bookish. Very bookish. When you look in Acts 17, when Paul is on Mars Hill and
01:17:19.600 | he's like saying, "Oh, you guys are all religious," and the philosophers of that
01:17:23.200 | day, they love philosophizing, they love hearing new ideas, and they speak, they
01:17:26.920 | speak, they speak, they speak. That's what they do. Right? Christians, for some reason,
01:17:31.080 | they come on the scene, this weird sect of Judaism, they come on the scene, right?
01:17:36.160 | And they're all about writing. Christianity was distinguished from
01:17:40.120 | other religions and other philosophies of that day in that sense. Other people
01:17:46.680 | groups noted that about Christians. Okay? So by about the fourth century, major
01:17:51.760 | biblical codices contain 27 books of the New Testament we have today.
01:17:54.880 | Sinaiticus, Vaticus, Alexandrus. Okay? The Codex was favored among the parchment
01:17:59.360 | because one could contain multiple works bound together. It also allowed certain
01:18:03.040 | books to be grouped together and certain ones to be left out. Parchment. Right?
01:18:07.600 | Kind of like what you see, like in video games, like when you get a scroll, the
01:18:11.000 | scroll of power or whatever you get, like, you know, you get an upgrade, it's like a
01:18:14.920 | scroll, right? Like it's like you roll it up. You guys have seen that before, right?
01:18:20.240 | But Christianity comes on the scene and it favors a codex. A codex is more like a
01:18:27.840 | book that we have. Think of like a photo album. Put stuff in, take stuff out, has a
01:18:32.760 | has a binding here. Christianity seems to favor that. Why is that? On a parchment,
01:18:39.240 | you can carry so many books, right? It's not very efficient, right? Like it
01:18:45.080 | preserves what's inside, so that's great, right? But I mean, how are you gonna carry
01:18:50.840 | like, like 27 parchments? But with a codex, oh, with a codex you can do that. With a
01:18:59.040 | binding, you can actually do that. For some strange reason, Christianity comes
01:19:04.600 | on the scene and immediately favors codices. Immediately. That is consistent
01:19:12.360 | with the compilation of the New Testament. That is consistent with the
01:19:15.920 | compilation of the New Testament.
01:19:19.120 | 140 AD, Marcion the Gnostic appears in the scene and states that the canon
01:19:25.320 | consisted of an edited version of Luke and 10 of Paul's epistles. So this
01:19:29.840 | dude named Marcion, right? We'll just call him Mark the Heretic, okay? Mark the
01:19:33.520 | Heretic, he comes on the scene and says, "This is the Bible. This is the Bible."
01:19:37.280 | About 140 AD, right? So around that time, right, generally people already understood
01:19:43.480 | what the New Testament was. But this dude comes on the scene and says, "This is
01:19:46.960 | actually the Bible." So now Christianity is being challenged, right? So because of
01:19:51.560 | this man's heresy, they got to prove that this man's heresy is not truth, right? So
01:19:58.120 | because of that, they engage Marcion, okay? By 200 AD, as a result of, probably as a
01:20:04.760 | result of that, the New Testament was already established and we know that in
01:20:08.160 | the Muratorian Fragment. The Muratorian Fragment contains, it's like a list, right?
01:20:12.880 | So there's this fragment, goes to about 200 AD, and it lists all the books of the
01:20:19.960 | New Testament. Guess what? It validates our New Testament. And it was probably a
01:20:25.480 | result of Marcion's heresy. So because of this guy's heresy, someone's like, "Prove to
01:20:32.880 | me that this isn't the Bible. Prove to me," right? So because of that, they're like,
01:20:37.040 | "Well, let's get organized and let's deal with this knucklehead," right? And so these
01:20:42.680 | lists start to form. In the early 300s, Origen's list also contains our New
01:20:47.700 | Testament, while noting that some of the epistles were debated. Around the same
01:20:52.600 | time as Origen, Eusebius also lists much of our New Testament. In 367,
01:20:56.920 | Athanasian's letter contains our New Testament today, which is corroborated by
01:21:01.720 | Jerome and Augustine. Council of Hippo and Carthage also confirm the New
01:21:05.880 | Testament we have today. And this makes complete sense if one understands the
01:21:09.080 | history of the Church. The first 300 years of the Church, there was intense
01:21:14.080 | persecution. It wasn't like they're doing nothing. They're just like, "Oh, like, hey,
01:21:18.160 | what should we do today?" There's intense persecution. The moment they
01:21:22.120 | get under that, you see this consensus with respect to the New Testament, okay?
01:21:25.960 | Now, when I say consensus, let me say that again. You see this apparent organized
01:21:30.560 | consensus. The consensus already existed, okay? The consensus already existed, right?
01:21:36.400 | We see that with the Didache. We see that with the Apostolic Fathers. So the
01:21:40.880 | consensus already existed, but then the heretics, or the ones that
01:21:45.400 | actually had some juice to them, started to appear. And so you see this
01:21:51.120 | godly reaction to combat the heretics, okay? Okay. So there's this chart that I
01:22:00.920 | just ripped off a book, right? So divine qualities, apostolic origins, and corporate
01:22:06.840 | reception, right? If you see that graphic right there, right? They represent the
01:22:11.000 | attributes of canonicity, right? And it is within the context of the Holy Spirit.
01:22:16.120 | That's why it is self-authenticating, okay? I want you to remember something.
01:22:20.440 | John 1.1, "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was
01:22:25.960 | God." If the Word was God, what is greater than God that can authenticate God?
01:22:34.080 | There's nothing greater than God. That's why it has to be self-authenticating,
01:22:38.760 | right? He says it another way. Hebrews 6.3, "Since he could swear by no one greater,
01:22:44.040 | he swore by himself." Himself. What's God gonna swear by when it
01:22:54.040 | comes to his Word? "I swear to you that this is true." There's nothing
01:22:59.240 | else he could swear by. When he says something's gonna happen to give you and
01:23:03.280 | I comfort, he says, "I swear by who?" There's no one greater than God. He has to swear
01:23:07.560 | by himself. If the Word was God, okay, the Logos, right? And he could swear by
01:23:15.200 | himself, of course the attributes of the Canon, of course the criteria of the
01:23:22.000 | Canon, of course it's going to be self-authenticating. There's nothing
01:23:26.360 | greater than God. Let me say this again. It is not cheap. It is not intellectually
01:23:32.920 | cheap. Everything that is foundational is self-authenticating. Everything that is
01:23:39.200 | foundational. Everything is self-authenticating, okay? If you want to
01:23:46.400 | hit me up and get into a philosophical discussion about that, I will, okay?
01:23:53.680 | What is Scripture's position on Scripture? "For no prophecy was ever made
01:24:00.320 | by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." That is
01:24:05.960 | Scripture's position on Scripture. Men didn't write it, God wrote it. "I testify
01:24:10.800 | to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if anyone adds to
01:24:14.120 | them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book. If anyone takes away
01:24:17.400 | from the words of this book of this prophecy, God will take away his part
01:24:20.160 | from the tree of life and from the holy city which are written in this book."
01:24:27.680 | That's four o'clock. John 10 27. "My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they
01:24:35.240 | follow me." That's what Jesus said, right? "My sheep hear my voice, I know them and
01:24:40.400 | they follow me." So wouldn't the people who are going to be Christian validate
01:24:46.800 | God's Word? Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice, I know them and they follow me. A
01:24:53.240 | stranger they simply will not follow, but will free from him because they do not
01:24:57.240 | know the voice of strangers. The church will receive his Word. They will be able
01:25:03.840 | to deduce what is not God's Word." Okay? Romans 15 4. "For whatever was written in
01:25:10.440 | earlier times was written for our instruction so that through perseverance
01:25:13.360 | and encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope." Whatever was written in
01:25:16.320 | earlier times was written for our instruction. We will have God's Word. All
01:25:24.720 | Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and
01:25:28.280 | training. If all Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
01:25:32.720 | correcting, and training, would he not give it to us? Would we somehow mess this
01:25:38.080 | up? We're not gonna mess it up. Not because we're great, but because Christ
01:25:43.920 | promised. John 14 and John chapter 16. Isaiah 55, just to reinforce this point.
01:25:50.960 | "So will my word be which goes forth from my mouth. It will not
01:25:56.720 | return to me empty without accomplishing what I desire and without succeeding in
01:26:01.280 | the matter for which I sent it. All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted
01:26:06.480 | as nothing, but he does according to his will." You think man can stop God from
01:26:14.000 | giving his word to his church? I don't think so. Ephesians 1, "Also we have
01:26:21.360 | obtained inheritance having been predestined according to his purpose, who works all
01:26:24.400 | things after the counsel of his will." He works all things. All the inhabitants of
01:26:30.760 | the earth are accounted as nothing. His word will not return void. It will
01:26:37.200 | succeed. With respect to the canon of Scripture. Okay? With respect to the canon
01:26:47.640 | of Scripture, if it has divine qualities, it will also have apostolic origins and
01:26:54.720 | the church will receive it as such. With respect to the canon of Scripture, I'm
01:27:00.720 | pretty proud of that. If it has apostolic origins, it will have divine qualities
01:27:05.240 | and the church will receive it as such. Because his sheep hear his voice.
01:27:14.040 | Who wrote the first five books? Moses. Was Moses around when he wrote when
01:27:21.800 | God created the world? No, he wasn't around. He wasn't like observing God.
01:27:25.120 | That's cool you like made Adam. That's cool, right? Because Adam was the first
01:27:29.040 | man, right? So it was given to Moses. I'm using this Old Testament example because
01:27:34.480 | it's not anything new in the New Testament, right? So when Christ
01:27:38.120 | commissions his apostles, the Holy Spirit, John chapter 14, John chapter 16, he's
01:27:43.920 | going to teach you all things. He's going to guide you into all truth. He's gonna
01:27:47.680 | make you remember everything I said. I want to tell you more but you can't bear
01:27:50.760 | it now, right? But you're going to do this. The Apostle said, "I received this from
01:27:55.920 | Jesus." Right? You have divine qualities. You have apostolic origins. And then the
01:28:02.080 | church, Jesus said what? "My sheep hear my voice. My sheep hear my voice." Who dwells
01:28:08.560 | in you? God dwells in you. God is going to react to his word. Divine qualities,
01:28:14.760 | apostolic origins, corporate reception. That's that in a nutshell, okay? Because
01:28:23.480 | Christ said it. Because Christ said it, right? And if you don't believe him, this
01:28:30.200 | is a very logical argument from Christ. "At least believe me because of the works
01:28:34.480 | that I do." That's what Jesus said. You don't believe me? Then how in the world
01:28:39.400 | am I doing all this, right? If you don't believe him, at least believe the works.
01:28:43.160 | And go read a book, take a look at history, and take a look at all the
01:28:47.760 | people, all the men and women that died because they saw Christ, right? Okay.
01:28:51.520 | That's enough of that, alright? So that's the canon of
01:28:55.400 | Scripture. Okay. I'm gonna answer one question here, right? What about the
01:29:00.400 | Catholic Bible? What about the Catholic Bible, right? Okay. The Catholic Bible
01:29:04.840 | contains what is known as the Old Testament Apocrypha. There is a New
01:29:07.640 | Testament Apocrypha, but no one accepts the New Testament Apocrypha, okay? Just
01:29:10.280 | throw that out the door, okay? The Catholics have other books within the
01:29:13.600 | Old Testament, okay? Tobit, 1st and 2nd Maccabees, and some others, okay? That's
01:29:20.640 | where they get the idea of purgatory, from the Apocrypha. But you don't see the
01:29:27.000 | idea of purgatory in any other book except the Apocrypha. It fails the test
01:29:31.560 | of doctrinal unity. Number two, did Jesus ever quote from any book of the
01:29:36.600 | Apocrypha? No. No. He never quoted from the Apocrypha. Do you know why? Because
01:29:43.760 | it's not God's Word. Because it's not God's Word, okay?
01:29:48.880 | Number three, okay? Early on, they were not accepted. Now you might find, you might
01:29:56.200 | find, this could be God's Word, but generally speaking, they were not
01:30:00.720 | accepted as God's Word. You know what else? You know what else? Even the
01:30:06.160 | Catholic Church, although they recognized the Apocrypha, they, the Catholic Church,
01:30:11.040 | I'm not talking about the, some council here, some council there, I'm talking
01:30:14.680 | about the Catholic Church at the time did not recognize the Apocrypha as God's
01:30:18.320 | Word. That happened in the 16th century, okay? So from very early on, the Apocrypha
01:30:24.520 | was not counted as God's Word, from very early on, okay? And when you look at the
01:30:29.120 | quotations, that it is written and stuff like that, they come from our New
01:30:33.120 | Testament, from the early Church Fathers or whatever else, okay? The early Church,
01:30:36.680 | so the Apostolic Fathers, and there's ones after that. Is there a
01:30:41.880 | document somewhere that says the Apocrypha is God's Word? Yes. Yes. There
01:30:50.380 | is documents out there, okay? But if you look at it in its totality, right, there's
01:30:56.600 | a lot of forgeries out there, and the way you can siphon out the forgeries from
01:31:00.400 | what's actually God's Word is there's, there's, there's an analysis to this,
01:31:03.760 | right? Does it have doctrinal unity? How many copies are there, and how many times
01:31:08.160 | are they quoted as Scripture? If you do the analysis, it's the New Testament and
01:31:12.920 | the Old Testament that we have today. You know what's another, like the final nail
01:31:17.600 | in the coffin? The Old Testament that the Jews use, Israel uses, is the Old Testament
01:31:25.080 | that we use, not the Catholic one. Alright? So that's, that's, that's the Apocrypha.
01:31:31.400 | Okay. I want to take questions. Don't be afraid. Ask me questions. Yes.
01:31:40.360 | Masoretic.
01:31:45.080 | 900 to 1000 AD.
01:31:49.920 | Why did the Masoretes stop reproducing it?
01:32:00.760 | Oh, I see, I see your question. I do know why. They were, I want to make sure I get
01:32:13.880 | this right, they were eventually conquered. And I want to make, I don't
01:32:20.040 | want to give you fake news, and I don't want to, because there's a lot of tribes,
01:32:23.600 | but if I remember correctly, they were, they were conquered. And so that, and
01:32:27.640 | that was, that was the reason why they were eventually dispersed. So the copies
01:32:33.200 | that we have date to around that time.
01:32:57.280 | So which manuscripts does our English Bible use? Is that the question?
01:33:03.840 | Yes. Let me, let me say this, okay? There are two kind of general codices, two
01:33:15.200 | general ones, okay? So these two general ones are slightly different, okay? So then
01:33:21.400 | you have the King James and the New King James kind of using this one, and then
01:33:25.320 | you have like nearly all the other translations using this one, okay? Without
01:33:31.920 | getting into the weeds too much, they're generally identical, but the one that the
01:33:38.960 | King James and New King James uses, right, they have a couple more verses. One
01:33:44.960 | example is in 1st John chapter 5, when it talks about the Trinity, and King James
01:33:49.920 | and New King James, I think it's chapter 5, it directly says there are three that
01:33:53.640 | testify, the Father, God, and the Holy Spirit, right? Now that's, that's like a direct
01:33:58.400 | statement of the Trinity, right? The, the text that we use, it doesn't have that
01:34:03.720 | verse, okay? So the two major codices have like a couple verses that are different,
01:34:10.840 | right? So then the one we use, for various reasons, that, the one we use seem to be a
01:34:16.800 | little bit more accurate. And then if I, to do the analysis of that, we'll take a
01:34:21.400 | little bit of time, but to answer your question, yes. Yes. That, that codicy is
01:34:28.400 | based upon the compilation of the manuscripts that we have, also the copies
01:34:34.680 | of the manuscripts that we have. That makes sense. So there, there aren't any
01:34:40.040 | like original letter, they're all, they're all destroyed. Like, we don't have the
01:34:45.440 | original Colossians. Like, we don't, we don't have that, right? But the fact that
01:34:51.560 | we don't have like an original copy doesn't mean that we don't have the
01:34:55.960 | original content. And the reason that's not true is because we know that this
01:35:00.360 | letter was disseminated and we know that it was copied, and when, remember, when they
01:35:04.480 | copied it, they knew it was the Word of God. So there were all these copies, right?
01:35:08.960 | So theoretically, just keep this in mind, if you have the Word of God and they
01:35:15.120 | understood it to be the Word of God, and there's a hundred copies of this, but we
01:35:19.520 | don't have the original. But everyone's saying there's a hundred copies and
01:35:23.200 | they're all identical, right? Do you think the hundred copies that are like word
01:35:27.360 | for word, letter for letter, identical? Is that a copy of the original? Yeah. Yeah.
01:35:33.000 | It definitely, it's not gonna be like a hundred different copies and they're all
01:35:37.320 | wrong, but the original is now gone, so we're just, we're just toast, right? That's
01:35:43.240 | not the case at all. So we don't have any originals, but we have copies, right? And
01:35:49.440 | then copies upon copies, right? And then there's like, like the earliest ones, they
01:35:54.280 | have them like, they give them like P, P designations, like P52 and the fragments
01:35:58.760 | of John, and that's kind of getting into the weeds. Just, just generally speaking.
01:36:02.320 | That's, that's how it works.
01:36:05.280 | The New England translation claims to use the same codices as in major
01:36:11.760 | translations, but then they add in their own words. They like, they're different.
01:36:16.120 | So they say like, we're using this codicy, right? We're using this
01:36:20.360 | codex, right? We're using this, and then they just add words. It literally comes
01:36:25.040 | from nowhere. Like it straight up comes from nowhere. I'm not just saying that
01:36:28.960 | because I'm not a Jehovah's Witness. I'm saying that because that's intellectually,
01:36:32.080 | factually correct. Like they'll, they'll like, they'll read a text and they'll
01:36:36.280 | just like insert a word in there and say, well that's, that's what the Bible says
01:36:39.560 | and that's not true. Like it's, it's really that simple. Yeah. Yes.
01:36:48.200 | The Dead Sea Scrolls, right? Yeah. The Cumbrian community, so they were, they were
01:37:00.320 | also a, a kind of like, think of like monks. They were kind of like monks and
01:37:07.520 | they were all about like, we're gonna separate ourselves, we're gonna live in
01:37:11.120 | these caves, we're gonna have the Word of God, that, that's the community. And so
01:37:14.800 | they kept all these scrolls. So they were like, we're gonna preserve God's Word,
01:37:18.240 | come out of the world, we're not gonna associate with them. So they're all about
01:37:22.240 | like, you know, keeping God's Word and obeying God's Word, except that they were
01:37:26.280 | kind of like, just did it in a monkish way, right? It is from that community that
01:37:31.600 | we find texts that validate the, that validate the Masoretic text.
01:37:37.200 | Yes.
01:37:43.760 | I'm sorry, the what? Yeah.
01:37:51.200 | Yes. He wrote them because he says, because of what he says. If, if anyone
01:38:00.640 | thinks he's spiritual, let him recognize what I'm writing to is God's Word. Yeah.
01:38:06.840 | Oh, so if you study those books, if you study those books, they speak of
01:38:21.800 | doctrinal disunity. Like, so like, the teaching of purgatory comes from Tobit,
01:38:30.120 | which is a book of the Apocrypha, right? And other books too. I'm pretty sure,
01:38:35.040 | but it comes from the Apocrypha, right? And so when you look at the
01:38:41.440 | Apocrypha and you see what they teach, it doesn't come from any other book. You
01:38:46.160 | don't, you don't see a purgatory in any other book except the Apocrypha. Yeah. So
01:38:51.960 | so that, that's, that's one example. But that's a, that's a huge example, you
01:38:56.720 | know, like, because the Scripture is talking about it's once and for all. You
01:39:01.520 | die, there is no second chance. Like, oh I messed up and now I'm gonna be for real
01:39:05.720 | good. There's nothing like that, right? But the Apocrypha speaks to a different
01:39:10.800 | destination than the rest of the books, right? So with the Apocrypha, you have the
01:39:16.200 | argument from doctrinal disunity, but you also have the argument from the fact
01:39:19.920 | that it's not from apostolic origins, right? And on top, well, it's all times, so
01:39:25.400 | prophetic origins, right? Which is the corollary of apostolic origins. And on
01:39:29.880 | top of that, they didn't receive it as God's Word. The Jews didn't receive it as
01:39:34.880 | God's Word, right? Going back to the fact that the Jews today, they, they also don't
01:39:41.040 | recognize the Apocrypha as part of God's Word. The other interesting factoid about
01:39:45.120 | the Apocrypha is that, I think all of it, yeah, all of it was written within the
01:39:50.720 | intertestamental period, right? That period after Malachi, but before John the
01:39:57.060 | Baptist. Malachi's the last prophet, right guys? Malachi's the last Old Testament
01:40:00.640 | prophet, and then there's radio silence. No one's, there's no, God doesn't send
01:40:05.560 | anyone, right? And then John the Baptist occurs. So the, the Apocrypha is from this
01:40:10.600 | time when God is silent, right? So that's also interesting, because God is silent.
01:40:18.360 | [Pause]
01:40:48.340 | What was the last thing you said?
01:40:52.340 | [Pause]
01:41:12.340 | Well, it is true that there is variance, like, within, like, everyone who calls
01:41:17.740 | themselves a Jew, but generally speaking, they go by the same Old Testament that
01:41:22.900 | we have. Like, just, just, just, like, just generally speaking. They do have other
01:41:27.900 | texts that are, could be seen as authoritative depending on, like, what kind
01:41:31.380 | of Jew you are, like, what kind of, like, like, yeah, like, kind of, like, their own, like,
01:41:37.180 | kind of version of, like, denominations. But as a whole, the Old Testament that we
01:41:44.580 | have is the one they have. So they typically won't necessarily give
01:41:49.140 | credence to texts that are outside, with the caveat that there are some who, like,
01:41:55.300 | really uphold some, like, rabbinical writings, right? In theory, just
01:42:03.580 | cerebrally, they'll say that that's not God's Word, but, like, sometimes in
01:42:07.440 | practice, they, they treat it as such. I mean, yeah, I, I guess my approach would be, I
01:42:18.940 | guess my approach would be, if I were arguing, if I was talking to someone who
01:42:25.020 | treated a non-canonical Old Testament book as canonical, like a Jew, I would
01:42:33.780 | remind him that it was not spoken of by a prophet. That's what I would do.
01:42:39.120 | That, I would just say it's not spoken of by a prophet. That's, that's kind of, like,
01:42:42.620 | how I would leave it as. And it might have been tradition that you guys
01:42:45.780 | accepted as such, with such high regard, but it is not spoken of, it's not in the
01:42:50.180 | same vein as an Isaiah or a Daniel, yeah. But I see your point, though. If you want to, like,
01:42:54.380 | argue with someone about why Christ is the Messiah, you have to look at the
01:42:59.960 | texts from the Old Testament that we share. So I understand why you'd ask that
01:43:05.020 | question, yeah. Okay. I'll take more. I'll take more. Okay, I want, okay, you know,
01:43:17.180 | I want to ask you guys a question. Does anyone, and I don't want you to feel like,
01:43:24.540 | "Oh my gosh, I'm not a good Christian," okay? Don't feel like that, because I want you
01:43:28.140 | to not hide, like, if you have a question and, like, I can answer it, I want to
01:43:34.060 | answer it, because if you have a question, maybe someone else has the same question
01:43:37.380 | but they're afraid to answer. Don't be like, "Well, you know, they're gonna think I'm
01:43:40.220 | not a good Christian." Don't think like that, okay? Does everyone, does
01:43:44.940 | everyone understand why the canon has to be self-authenticating? And if you
01:43:50.980 | understand why the canon has to be self-authenticating, why it is still
01:43:57.020 | extremely powerful that it is self-authenticating? Is everyone
01:44:02.020 | with me on that? Does anyone think, "Well, it's self-authenticating so it's
01:44:07.260 | cheap." Does anyone, like, honestly, if you feel that way, just
01:44:11.140 | let me know and I want to kind of walk you through why. No one feels that way?
01:44:19.380 | Okay, yeah, I'll walk you through why. Thank you. So I want to go back to foundationally,
01:44:28.460 | okay? Foundationally, right? We talk about Jesus Christ being the center, right? And
01:44:33.900 | He is the center, okay? Jesus Christ is the absolute center. What's the
01:44:39.380 | difference between a Jew and a Christian? If Isaiah, the prophet Isaiah, if he were
01:44:44.660 | alive today, if the prophet Daniel were alive today, right, he would believe in
01:44:50.060 | Christ because he is the Messiah. Isaiah, Daniel, Joel, Malachi, they were all Yahweh
01:44:56.540 | believers. They were all God-fearers. If you are a God-fearer, you will believe in
01:45:02.340 | Jesus. There is no difference in philosophy with respect to Judaism and
01:45:08.020 | Christianity. The difference is Jesus Christ. What do you do with Jesus? Jesus
01:45:14.620 | is the central figure. He explained to mankind what is good and what is evil. He
01:45:21.520 | explained to mankind where you are from and where you are going. He explained to
01:45:26.340 | mankind what is meaning in life. And He explained all of that to mankind. He
01:45:32.380 | paved the way. He was the way. He was God. Jesus is the central figure. He proved
01:45:39.220 | that. He proved that by performing miracles. But his last miracle was he
01:45:45.860 | rose from the dead. You want to see power? Rise from the dead, right? That is the
01:45:52.460 | ultimate power. He actually rose from the dead. Nothing beats that, right? You can
01:45:58.180 | you can't even kill a Superman, right? I mean, nothing beats that power, right? He
01:46:02.080 | actually rose from the dead, okay? So Christ rises from the dead, okay? That's
01:46:08.340 | the power that this man had. This man, Jesus, confirms the Old Testament that we
01:46:14.620 | have today. He confirmed it. I went through it. I showed you how he confirmed it. He
01:46:19.260 | confirmed it. Old Testament that you have, that's the Old Testament. Give you the
01:46:23.540 | thumbs up, okay? So the Old Testament we have is the Old Testament, right? And then he says,
01:46:27.580 | "These guys are gonna write the New Testament. You're gonna write the New
01:46:32.140 | Testament. You're gonna write the New Testament." The guys who wrote the New
01:46:35.220 | Testament said, "We received it from the Lord. We received it from the Lord. We
01:46:39.100 | received it from the Lord," right? And then Christ also said, "Those who receive you
01:46:43.420 | receive me," right? When you tell people of what I tell you, they're gonna know
01:46:48.600 | it's from me. And then what happened? The Apostles told the Word. The Church
01:46:54.420 | received it as from Christ, because my sheep hear my voice, right? So you have
01:46:59.820 | Christ saying, "These guys are gonna, you guys are gonna write the New Testament,"
01:47:03.140 | and those other guys that you tell, if they're my sheep, they're gonna hear my
01:47:08.020 | voice. The Apostles, what do they do? They tell. And what do the sheep do? They hear
01:47:13.380 | the voice. Who does the glory go to? Jesus. Jesus. Because he's the key. He's the key
01:47:20.940 | to the canon. No one is greater than Jesus, so it has to be self-authenticating.
01:47:25.820 | It has to be. There isn't some outside source, right? And if you want to get
01:47:30.260 | technical here, yeah, I guess God, because he said, "This is my son in whom I'm
01:47:33.900 | well-pleased," right? But Jesus is God, right? So without like splitting
01:47:37.940 | hairs here, right? Christ is the key to the Old Testament canon. That's why it must be
01:47:42.300 | self-authenticating, because no one is greater than God. And that is why, that is
01:47:46.920 | why it is not intellectually dishonest. It is not intellectually dishonest,
01:47:52.020 | because how are you going to prove sensory perception? By employing your
01:47:56.380 | sensories, your sensory, your senses, excuse me. How would you, how would you
01:48:02.980 | define sense? You have to employ it. And by the virtue of employing it, you see if
01:48:06.980 | it works. That's how you do. How do you prove that two is two? It is
01:48:11.420 | foundational. It's just, it's foundational. How do you prove that two is two? That you
01:48:16.740 | just make a point. When you use the number two as two, did it work? You were
01:48:21.020 | able to make a point, because it corresponds with reality. So anything
01:48:24.980 | that is foundational is self-authenticating. Anything. God is
01:48:29.700 | foundational. So the Word of God must be self-authenticating. Okay? That's super
01:48:35.360 | dense, super dense, but it's in Scripture, right? God swore by himself. It's in
01:48:41.420 | Scripture. He doesn't say it like that. He doesn't, God doesn't say, "This is super
01:48:44.060 | dense, guys, so get ready." He doesn't say it like that, right? But he did tell us.
01:48:47.500 | Just in a different way. Thank you. Okay. Question, yeah?
01:48:55.660 | Mm-hmm.
01:49:00.340 | Mm-hmm.
01:49:08.940 | Where are contemporary commentaries rooted from? Okay. So generally,
01:49:16.220 | contemporary commentaries, okay, so there's like different types of
01:49:20.020 | commentaries, but generally speaking, what a commentator will do, and I don't
01:49:24.860 | want to say all commentators, but generally speaking, what a commentator
01:49:27.500 | will do is he will look at the language, like the original language, but he will
01:49:31.700 | also look at different verses that relate to this verse, right? So for
01:49:37.540 | example, for example, right, a lot of what you see in Revelation, like a lot of what
01:49:42.460 | you see in Revelation is talked about in the book of Daniel. So they will go to
01:49:47.340 | the book of Daniel and try to understand it, and that helps kind of like your
01:49:50.980 | understanding of Revelation, right? So you have the language, you have, you have the
01:49:56.100 | Scripture by Scripture comparison, analogia Scriptura. It's just Scripture
01:50:01.980 | by Scripture, right? And then thirdly, what you will, what they will typically do is,
01:50:05.780 | if it's a good commentator, is how did the audience receive it at the time? So
01:50:11.020 | you go to culture, right? Like, like you and me, we say, "What's up, dog?" Like, we don't
01:50:15.140 | mean like an actual, like, poodle, right? We just say, like, "What's up, friend?" Right? So
01:50:19.580 | like, you know, like, look at the cult, like, you look at the culture, right? So a good
01:50:22.860 | commentator will do that, and then that's it. The commentators, what they speak
01:50:28.540 | is not from God, yeah. But they can, they can give you their insight, and that's,
01:50:32.060 | that's really it. It's the Holy Spirit in you that helps you to understand. Great
01:50:38.460 | question. That's a great question. Do you have a question?
01:50:42.540 | Yes. The 27 books in the New Testament is because it fulfilled the criterion that
01:50:53.820 | we went over, or the attributes that we went over. They had divine qualities. They
01:50:58.900 | had apostolic origins, and they had corporate reception. Those are the books,
01:51:03.140 | those are the books that have the doctrinal unity. Those are the books that
01:51:07.540 | have apostolic origins, right? All those books have apostolic origins. The five
01:51:12.300 | that were not directly penned by an apostle have close association with
01:51:15.700 | apostles, as if they were penned by an apostle, right? Thirdly, thirdly, they were
01:51:21.140 | received as such. As, those are the books that were received as such by the
01:51:25.740 | audience, right? So what that means is that if they were received by such as
01:51:29.540 | the audience of the apostles, they were received as such because the apostles
01:51:33.900 | told them, right? And Jesus said, "These are the guys that are going to tell you.
01:51:38.780 | These are the guys." Now you might say, "Well, well the apostles are sinful. The
01:51:43.100 | apostles could have gotten it wrong, right?" Yes, they're sinful. Yes, they're
01:51:47.980 | sinful, right? But when it comes to the canon of Scripture, you have to remember
01:51:53.540 | who God is, right? God said this was going to happen in this way. So if God said
01:51:59.540 | it's going to happen in this way, it's going to happen in this way, no matter
01:52:03.260 | how sinful I am, right? If God said, "James is gonna be the one to save all you guys,"
01:52:08.780 | and you guys are like, "Oh my gosh, why James? He's not that strong. He's old," right? But
01:52:14.660 | don't look at the man. Don't look at me. Look at the person who said it. God is
01:52:21.020 | the one who said, "I'm gonna save you guys." So it's not James is gonna save us, is
01:52:24.900 | God is the one saving us. James is just the instrument. So those are the books
01:52:29.940 | that fulfill all that criterion. Those are the books. There's no other books
01:52:33.820 | that fulfill that criterion.
01:52:49.180 | Correct. Lodiceans. Correct.
01:52:53.820 | The answer is yes. It did not fulfill the qualities that are being included. That
01:53:05.500 | letter is lost, okay? And the reason it was lost is because it was not a part of
01:53:09.660 | Scripture. And the reason it was not a part of Scripture, the reason it's not a
01:53:13.060 | part of Scripture is because there were many copies of it. When you look at one
01:53:17.740 | of the attributes of what was Scripture, when they knew it was Scripture, they
01:53:21.500 | were like, "OMG, this is Scripture. Everyone needs it. Make copies." That was
01:53:27.020 | what they did. That's just what they did. Like beginning with the Old Testament,
01:53:30.340 | it's not like we get to the New Testament, like there's this new practice,
01:53:33.100 | right? If it's God's Word, copy it accurately and copy a lot of it and give
01:53:37.980 | it to people. That's what they did. With that letter, it didn't happen. And
01:53:42.580 | there were other letters too. Didn't happen, right? So that's how we know.
01:53:48.700 | Mm-hmm.
01:53:51.700 | Mm-hmm.
01:54:14.180 | That all Scripture is God's Word and that it's also spoken by men? Is that...
01:54:21.260 | Okay. That's a good question. I mean, I would answer it like this. The idea of
01:54:28.420 | direct revelation is not new. It's not a new idea. When it comes to the New
01:54:33.140 | Testament, it's not like we got this new idea here, right? Prophets were already
01:54:36.460 | doing it. Isaiah said this, right? Jeremiah said this. Joel said this. So it's not
01:54:41.220 | like new. So when you get to the New Testament, it's not like, "Well, let's try
01:54:44.660 | this new idea of direct revelation." So that's not the case, right? It's already
01:54:48.620 | been done, right? Direct revelation has already been done, right? So Paul says,
01:54:53.060 | "We're ministers of the new covenant." So remember, the Old Covenant, right? You have
01:54:57.580 | redemption. We're free from Egypt. And then after we're free from Egypt, let me
01:55:01.780 | tell you about salvation. Let me tell you about what you're gonna do. Compilation
01:55:04.940 | of documents. Compilation of instructions. Same pattern in the New Testament. Paul
01:55:09.500 | says, "We're ministers of the new covenant." We're ministers of the new covenant, right?
01:55:14.180 | So then he gets direct revelation. Then he has to write the New Testament, and so
01:55:18.200 | do some of the other apostles, right? So this idea of direct revelation, I would
01:55:22.740 | say, kind of like the underpinning of it, the underpinning is that it is not a
01:55:27.500 | novel idea, right? Once you understand that it's not a novel idea, it really
01:55:32.580 | helps to accept the fact that it happened in the New Testament, right? You couple
01:55:36.660 | that with the fact that Jesus said this was going to happen. So it
01:55:41.820 | hinges on Christ. The canon hinges on Christ, right? Like our salvation, I mean,
01:55:47.660 | everything about our salvation hinges on Christ, so does the canon, right? And I am
01:55:52.020 | going to trust the guy who rose from the dead over the scholar over here, right?
01:55:57.020 | G.K. Chesterton said, "We need education to help us from the intellectual elite."
01:56:00.540 | Right? That's very interesting, right? Because you would think that the
01:56:04.020 | intellectual elite will give you truth, but we need education to guard ourselves
01:56:07.660 | from the intellectual elite, right? I look at Christ, he rose from the dead, he said
01:56:11.960 | this is gonna happen. It's not anything new. I'm completely fine with it. One other
01:56:16.940 | thing, well one other thing. I also look at the nature of God. If God said that he
01:56:22.300 | can make anything happen, that's despite sinful man. Despite sinful man, he can
01:56:28.380 | make anything happen. Can he form the New Testament canon? No problem. Easy peasy.
01:56:33.580 | Right?
01:56:36.180 | Well when you say exact, that could be a term of art, right? It is via the Holy
01:56:51.540 | Spirit. It's clear that they were cognizant when they were receiving
01:56:57.620 | tradition or when they were receiving direct revelation. They were
01:57:02.220 | apparently cognizant of that. So that's as exact as I think we can get to.
01:57:10.020 | That they knew and that it was via the Holy Spirit. Yeah. Great question. Great
01:57:16.660 | question.
01:57:18.940 | Tacitus. Tacitus describes Jesus and his miracles. The record of the Christian
01:57:30.740 | martyrs also. Because although no one took down their testimony, it is clear
01:57:37.300 | that they were killed because they were Christians. And it is clear that they
01:57:40.860 | wouldn't die if they denied their faith. Yet they died. So though speaking, they live.
01:57:45.940 | Though killed, they are conquerors.
01:57:53.500 | There's one other one. I forget. Lucian. Lucian.
01:58:02.940 | Anyone else? I love these questions. Yes.
01:58:21.300 | Great question. Great question. Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit. And the reason I know, the
01:58:28.900 | reason, one of the major reasons I know is my study of the Gospels.
01:58:36.300 | After I studied Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, like there is so much design. So
01:58:44.980 | much like just impeccable intentionality and design with each of the Gospels.
01:58:50.900 | Right? You could ask me this. You could ask me this, right? How do I know that
01:58:57.260 | that my my iPhone 11 Pro, this is iPhone 6, I'm just saying iPhone. My iPhone 11, how do I
01:59:04.140 | know that someone made this? How do I know that someone, how do I know that
01:59:07.540 | someone just didn't spill like a bunch of tools and then this just like popped
01:59:11.740 | up out of nowhere? Right? I'd be like, well let me see. I can load apps here. Like I,
01:59:17.340 | you know what I mean? I mean to tell you, right, when I study Matthew, Mark, Luke, and
01:59:22.180 | John, and I study the precision and the design in which each of the Gospels are
01:59:31.460 | written in their respective viewpoints, I see the mark of God. It just kind of
01:59:37.580 | like screams it in the same way Apple designed an iPhone. And like to me, in an
01:59:43.140 | even more, in an even more precise way. Yeah. So I would say firstly, Jesus said
01:59:54.000 | so in John 14 and John chapter 16. And secondarily, the divine qualities that I
01:59:59.500 | get from, that I see from studying the Scriptures. That that would be my answer
02:00:02.820 | to that.
02:00:05.020 | Great questions, by the way. Great questions. I want you to ask me these
02:00:12.020 | questions because I want everyone to leave here with like, God's Word is God's
02:00:16.660 | Word. And I, and if you have a question about something, I guarantee you someone
02:00:21.260 | else has a question. Don't be afraid of man. Don't be like, oh, like they're gonna
02:00:25.540 | think I'm a bad Christian. No one's gonna think you're a bad Christian, okay? If you
02:00:28.060 | don't ask me a question and you have a question, I'm gonna think you're a bad
02:00:30.780 | Christian. So just ask me that question. That's right.
02:00:36.580 | All right. Any other questions? Yes.
02:00:41.980 | Sorry, the non-apostle what?
02:00:48.500 | Okay, so yes. So Hebrew was thought to have Pauline authorship from a very early
02:00:57.620 | point on. Like, the general consensus is now we don't know for sure. Early on, it
02:01:02.580 | was thought to have Pauline authorship. So that takes that out. James was the
02:01:05.580 | brother of Jesus. So he was a leader, right? And when you think like apostles,
02:01:09.940 | when you think like, like it's not necessarily the people that were with
02:01:17.100 | Jesus. Like, James is the brother of Jesus, half-brother. So he was the recognized
02:01:21.740 | leader of Jerusalem from early on, right? So he wasn't necessarily with one of the
02:01:25.580 | twelve. But then he's, depending on how you define it, he fits a definition of a
02:01:31.620 | canonical apostle, okay? Mark was known as a son of Peter in 1st Peter 5. So, and
02:01:39.660 | even if you look at the Gospel of Mark, like, there's kind of this like Peter-like
02:01:45.300 | domination with respect to how he's portrayed and when he's portrayed that
02:01:50.020 | clearly showed his association with the apostle Peter, right? But other than that,
02:01:54.540 | 1st Peter 5. I mean, he calls him his son, right? Mark, James. Oh, Jude is also a
02:02:01.180 | brother. Jude is also a brother. So it's Mark, James, Jude. Hebrews. What am I
02:02:09.940 | leaving out here?
02:02:12.460 | Oh, Luke. Sorry, yeah, Luke. I was like, what am I leaving out? Luke was known as a close
02:02:25.700 | traveling companion of Paul. That's, that's in Acts. That's, I think that's on your sheet, yeah.
02:02:29.980 | Colossians 4, 2nd Timothy 4, and Philemon. Yeah. So it's very well likely that, like,
02:02:40.980 | it doesn't have to be even that an apostle like sat there and he wrote it,
02:02:44.980 | right? Even like a Jeremiah, oh gosh, he was, was it Jeremiah Baruch, right? Yeah,
02:02:53.460 | Jeremiah Baruch, right? It wasn't necessarily that. I don't, I won't get this wrong.
02:03:00.580 | Was it Isaiah or Jeremiah? Jeremiah. It was Jeremiah. Yeah, it's Jeremiah. So it wasn't
02:03:05.380 | necessarily that, like, he had to have sat there and then penned it. Like, that, that,
02:03:09.100 | that's not necessarily what has to happen for, to have, like, an apostolic
02:03:12.380 | origin, right? Paul could have even dictated some of this stuff to Luke,
02:03:15.460 | right? Like, so, and so, like, this is, this is what happened. This is what I got
02:03:21.220 | received from the Lord. Could have easily had done that. That, that wouldn't have
02:03:24.860 | been too hard. So, and remember, Paul was a lay convert, but he received from the
02:03:31.380 | Lord Jesus. He received it in the same way that, like, Moses wasn't around for the
02:03:36.020 | creation of the world, but he received Genesis. Like, he wasn't there to witness,
02:03:40.660 | oh God, you're doing all this great stuff, and there's Adam, but he received it. He
02:03:44.340 | wrote about it because he received it from God, right? So you don't have to
02:03:47.500 | necessarily witness the event, right? You don't think this, you just need to be a
02:03:51.660 | part of, like, Jesus's direct, when John 14, and John chapter 14, and John chapter 16,
02:03:58.020 | you need to be a part of that group, right? And obviously, the other two that I
02:04:02.700 | mentioned, the divine qualities and the corporate reception, because his sheep
02:04:06.820 | hear his voice, right?
02:04:10.140 | Yes.
02:04:15.700 | [inaudible]
02:04:30.740 | Oh. Mm-hmm. [inaudible]
02:04:35.740 | [inaudible]
02:04:40.260 | Mm-hmm. I think you take them piece by piece. I think you take them piece by
02:04:48.100 | piece. So, if you want to talk about a tribe that was annihilated, the biblical
02:04:53.780 | definition of annihilated doesn't necessarily mean that every single one
02:04:56.740 | of its, every single one of the persons in the tribe is killed and murdered.
02:05:00.260 | That's not necessarily the case. Annihilation means, for all intensive
02:05:03.900 | purposes of being a people group, you are no longer a people group. That's, that's
02:05:07.740 | what annihilation means. So, you can still have, like, one dude, and then he can, like,
02:05:11.300 | he can still propagate his DNA into, like, you know, and find it, like, way later on.
02:05:15.700 | So, with respect to anything that's, like, a seeming inconsistency, like, that would
02:05:22.980 | be that example, and then depending on which other example that we're talking
02:05:26.980 | about, I would take it piece by piece. With respect to measurements or
02:05:34.580 | geographical regions or anything like that, there were a lot of
02:05:39.540 | things that, in certain points in history, that were thought to be a certain way,
02:05:44.140 | that turned out to be different later on, right? One example that I can think of
02:05:48.580 | that I don't remember the chapter in Psalms right now, but it's, he spins the
02:05:53.620 | earth on its, like, a wheel, like, I'll have to find it, right? But for a long
02:06:00.020 | time, science thought the earth was flat. I mean, that's just all of science, that
02:06:06.260 | the earth was flat, right? Psalms portrayed something differently, right?
02:06:09.580 | Now, later on, we learn that the earth is actually not flat, right? So, there are
02:06:16.060 | things like that I think the Bible has vindicated over time, that I think
02:06:19.380 | certain things that, when you look, like, at a static moment, oh, it seems like the
02:06:24.140 | Bible is incorrect, but later on, the Bible seems to outlive its pallbearers, so to
02:06:27.780 | speak, right? So, the Bible has a history of kind of doing that. So, my answer to
02:06:32.500 | that would be, depending on, like, what we're talking about, I would tackle it
02:06:36.380 | differently. I, you know, it just depends on what we're talking about, so, yeah.
02:06:42.260 | [inaudible]
02:07:00.260 | You know, I actually would, and I actually would, because there is a communion of
02:07:06.780 | consciousness, and I'm not saying it's, like, the greatest factor, but I
02:07:11.060 | definitely think it's a good factor that, throughout time, the saints have seen
02:07:16.140 | these books as the authoritative Word of God, and if His sheep hear His voice, then
02:07:23.500 | having a communion of consciousness is consistent with Jesus saying, "My sheep
02:07:28.300 | hear my voice." So, yes, I would say that that is a great witness to the 27 books
02:07:33.220 | that we have. Great, great witness. Sure.
02:07:39.740 | [inaudible]
02:07:47.740 | Not primarily. Not primarily. Correct, correct.
02:07:54.740 | [inaudible]
02:07:57.740 | Great question. That's a great question. Whenever you get to a passage,
02:08:02.340 | whenever you get to a passage, right, one of the first things that you need to do
02:08:07.020 | is you need to understand what Jesus is actually saying to the hearer, or the
02:08:12.820 | author's, like, what is actually being told to the hearer, right, first, before you
02:08:17.740 | pluck yourself in the situation, right? Because if you pluck yourself in the
02:08:20.900 | situation, right, it's not gonna make the, you're not interpreting it
02:08:25.820 | correctly, right? So, before we understand something individually, the
02:08:31.580 | first thing that we need to understand is what is being said objectively? What is
02:08:36.860 | being said objectively? And objectively, Jesus is speaking to his dudes, I mean,
02:08:42.620 | his men, right, and he's saying, "Look, Holy Spirit's gonna come. The better I go.
02:08:47.980 | Holy Spirit's gonna come. He's gonna teach you all things. He's gonna guide you into
02:08:51.380 | all things. He's gonna teach you all truth." That is the first thing that he's
02:08:54.380 | saying to his men, right? And so, that is the first interpretation. That is, that is
02:09:01.620 | the first thing that we need to glean off, because that is the primary thing
02:09:04.660 | that he's saying, right? After that, after that, there are other verses that speak
02:09:10.180 | about us having the mind of Christ, us understanding all truth, us having this
02:09:15.760 | light. Like, there's passages then that refer to us. So, I look at those
02:09:19.580 | passages that refer to the individual, then when I look back at John chapter 14
02:09:23.620 | and John chapter 16, ah, okay, I can see what he means. The Holy Spirit's gonna
02:09:29.060 | behave this way with his men. It's gonna behave in a similar way with me, right?
02:09:33.380 | But I look also at Jude, who says, "The faith was once for all delivered to the
02:09:40.020 | saints." It's already delivered to the saints. It's already delivered, right? How
02:09:44.540 | does the Holy Spirit behave with me? He doesn't write the New Testament with me.
02:09:48.380 | He wrote it with them. He wrote it with me. So, yeah, great question. That's a
02:09:54.460 | great question. Again, we're analogia scriptura, right? Scripture upon
02:09:59.540 | scripture upon scripture, right? Yes.
02:10:03.580 | Mm-hmm.
02:10:28.500 | Um, yeah. Yeah. So, I'm not gonna say that it's like the devil himself, because the
02:10:37.020 | devil is not, he can't be everywhere at once, right? But is it his influence? Is
02:10:43.140 | it his influence? Yeah, because sin works best because it seems sublime. It seems
02:10:50.980 | morally pure. Sin seems morally pure, right? If the devil appeared to you and
02:10:56.860 | me, like in a pitchfork, like with horns and with like a tail, it's like, "Dude, yeah,
02:11:00.660 | I'm not gonna follow anything you say," right? But if it appears as an angel of
02:11:05.100 | light, okay, then I might believe you. I might actually, because you, you, you, you
02:11:09.940 | looked the part. You looked the part, right? And that's why I go back. That's
02:11:14.300 | why I go back. Subjective experience is not the final criterion for what's the
02:11:22.040 | canon, see? Your friend, he's not stating it in this way, but what he's saying is,
02:11:28.000 | subjectively, because I feel this way, it must be the Word of God. That's what he's
02:11:33.540 | saying. He's not, again, he's not articulating it that way, but that is
02:11:36.980 | essentially what he's saying. The Word of God impresses itself upon its believers,
02:11:42.820 | right? And you know the Word of God is the Word of God when you go back to
02:11:47.700 | Christ. You go back to the person of Christ, right? He never said that Joseph
02:11:53.380 | Smith was gonna write New Testament. Never said that. Search all of his words.
02:11:58.260 | He never said, you know, 1,600 years later or whatever it is, there's gonna be some
02:12:03.220 | dude in like the Zion area that's gonna, I'm gonna give him like more, no, he
02:12:07.780 | never said that, right? In fact, Jude says the opposite. It was once for all
02:12:13.380 | delivered to the saints. So what, like you and I can feel one way, but what matters
02:12:19.820 | is how does God feel? I mean, there are times in my life before I was a Christian
02:12:23.500 | where I thought certain things were okay. I don't think they're okay anymore, right?
02:12:26.740 | Same, I would like, it's, it's a matter of objectivity as opposed to subjectivity.
02:12:32.660 | Yeah, a matter of, quite frankly, a matter of reason versus a matter of emotion.
02:12:40.820 | Yes.
02:13:08.740 | That's a great question. That's a great question. I can't deny someone's feelings,
02:13:14.940 | right? So if someone were to argue with me and say, "Well, I feel this way," right? I
02:13:19.660 | can't deny your feelings, right? But I would ask that person, I would ask that
02:13:25.220 | person, given that you feel the way that you do, given that you, are there people
02:13:30.860 | in the world, not you, I'm not talking about you, this is what I would say to
02:13:33.820 | the Mormon, I'm not talking about you because you, you, you're from God and you
02:13:37.060 | got it, I get it, but are there people in this world who are deceived? Yes. He would
02:13:41.140 | say yes, right? Okay. Are there people in this world who are deceived but who
02:13:45.580 | don't think they are deceived? Answer would be yes, right? And do those people
02:13:50.260 | think I could never be deceived? There are people who think that, like, other
02:13:54.180 | people are deceived but not me, right? The Mormon guy would say yes, right? Okay. So
02:14:00.020 | he, other people are deceived but I'm not deceived, okay. But it's not you, right? No, no,
02:14:03.660 | it's not me, it's not me, okay. How do you know that? Well, because I feel this way. But
02:14:09.380 | this guy feels that way, right? This guy feels that way. This girl feels that way,
02:14:13.100 | right? Okay, okay. So then how do we know? How do we know? You say two things, say
02:14:20.540 | two things, or generally two things. We don't know, then, okay, that's pretty
02:14:25.380 | hopeless, right? We just can't know? Like, it doesn't sound like God to me. The God
02:14:30.260 | I know sounds like he would want his children to know. So this is a new God
02:14:34.520 | that you're preaching, so I, you know, like, if he says we don't know, then
02:14:37.260 | that's, that's, that's, okay, we don't know, right? The other thing he would say, the
02:14:41.740 | other thing that he would say is he would appeal to someone. We know because
02:14:45.700 | some higher authority. Oh, we know because of some higher authority. Who is your
02:14:51.220 | higher authority? Joseph Smith? Who is he gonna say? Jesus? And then this
02:14:57.260 | applies to anyone. Buddha? Like, who is your higher authority, right? If he says
02:15:00.680 | Jesus, then I go down, I go down like history, right? If he says Jesus, right? If
02:15:06.300 | he says Joseph Smith, okay, you believe in Joseph Smith, what can I do? Like,
02:15:10.900 | that's, that's fundamental to you, right? I believe in Jesus. Joseph Smith didn't
02:15:16.100 | rise from the dead. He's dead, isn't he? He's dead, yeah. Did he make anyone else
02:15:19.220 | rise from the dead? No. Okay. I mean, I don't know what to tell you, bro, like,
02:15:22.900 | Jesus rose from the dead, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with Jesus. I don't know, I'm
02:15:26.140 | gonna go with the guy that rose from the dead, so, I mean, it really hinges upon
02:15:30.140 | that. It really does hinge upon the person of Christ. Yeah. That's how, I would
02:15:35.260 | roughly go about in that way. I would bring it back to Jesus. Great questions.
02:15:44.700 | If you think of a question, you know where I go to church. Thank you, guys.
02:15:54.420 | Thank you very much.