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2019-03-13: Wed Bible Study Lesson 8


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00:00:00.000 | Alright, let's get together.
00:00:07.780 | Colossians chapter 2, 16 to 23.
00:00:12.280 | Okay.
00:00:13.960 | Let me ask you, now that we've been in it maybe about 5 or 6 weeks, are you getting
00:00:23.600 | the hang of things and asking questions and looking for observations?
00:00:27.680 | Okay.
00:00:29.040 | Yes?
00:00:30.440 | Alright.
00:00:32.000 | Tell me, just by show of hands, because I can't tell just by you nodding your head,
00:00:39.280 | how many of you feel like you're getting the hang of things?
00:00:41.320 | Okay, raise your hand.
00:00:43.120 | How many of you guys are getting lost every week?
00:00:47.360 | Okay, a few of you.
00:00:49.800 | Okay.
00:00:50.800 | You're getting the hang of getting lost every week, huh?
00:00:53.720 | Okay, good.
00:00:55.360 | Alright, like I said, from the beginning, our goal in the study wasn't simply to go
00:01:02.000 | through Colossians, it was to kind of give you some guidelines as to what to look for
00:01:05.640 | and how to do Bible study on your own.
00:01:07.800 | Okay, so that's why we're not going through every line by line thoroughly, the meaning
00:01:14.040 | behind it, because it would, there would be too much to cover and there's no way I'm
00:01:18.440 | going to be able to do that in 30 minutes every single week.
00:01:21.480 | So the goal of it is just to highlight it, give some outlines, certain things to look
00:01:25.120 | for so that you can do your study and hopefully that the main part of your study is something
00:01:29.620 | that you do on your own and then when you come, you're able to share with your group.
00:01:33.640 | Okay, so let me pray first and then we'll jump in.
00:01:39.120 | Gracious Father, we thank you for your living word.
00:01:42.160 | We thank you for the amazing truth, Lord God, that we find week to week.
00:01:46.800 | There's so much depth and wisdom behind all that you have to tell us.
00:01:51.240 | Help us, Lord God, to search through it, to really dig for treasures.
00:01:57.320 | Every part of it, Lord God, speaks to us.
00:02:00.280 | It enlightens us.
00:02:01.280 | It gives us a vision of who you are and what you desire.
00:02:05.760 | We pray that through it that you would teach us to know you better.
00:02:08.800 | We thank you, Father Jesus, and we pray.
00:02:11.080 | Amen.
00:02:12.080 | All right, so the first thing we want to look at is the hermeneutical principle and every
00:02:17.120 | week we're looking through are there any kind of repeated words or phrases that give us
00:02:21.400 | some guidelines as to what you should be looking for.
00:02:25.440 | One of the first things that I mentioned, if you look at the first page that was passed
00:02:28.920 | out, compare translations to see if there are words or phrases that have been translated
00:02:34.040 | differently to clarify certain ambiguous references in the text.
00:02:38.960 | So the four translations that I usually look into is the NASV, ESV, NIV, and the KJV or
00:02:46.160 | the NKJV.
00:02:47.160 | Now, if you have Bible programs or if you're online looking through translations, you can
00:02:53.520 | probably find about 40 or 50 different translations.
00:02:56.760 | You don't need to be comparing all of that.
00:02:58.280 | The reason why I choose these is because of the different philosophies that they used.
00:03:05.080 | The first line is the literal.
00:03:08.120 | King James is the most literal.
00:03:09.520 | King James didn't care if you understood it or not.
00:03:13.440 | They just did not care.
00:03:15.480 | So if that's exactly what it means, that's exactly what they put in there.
00:03:20.760 | Sometimes it makes absolutely no sense in English.
00:03:23.720 | So the reason why I look at King James is when there's certain phrasing that's really,
00:03:30.320 | really awkward, and even for King James sometimes, it's to the point where it makes no sense
00:03:36.320 | at all.
00:03:37.320 | Like I said, King James, it's just put whatever was in Greek, they just put it in.
00:03:41.040 | Even the word order, they follow the exact word order.
00:03:45.680 | But if you have a hard time understanding if something is awkward, you know there's
00:03:50.560 | something in the Greek that they had a hard time translating.
00:03:54.600 | So it wasn't simple.
00:03:55.600 | So if it was, "I ate food," that's not hard to translate in any language.
00:04:01.440 | Maybe the order of the verb and the subject, all of that may be twisted or maybe it would
00:04:06.800 | be in a different order, but that's not hard to translate.
00:04:09.920 | But if you speak two languages or more languages, you know there are certain words or phrases
00:04:14.480 | that you cannot translate.
00:04:17.280 | And so sometimes it would be a single word, but you would have to use a whole phrase to
00:04:20.600 | translate that.
00:04:23.240 | Or sometimes it would be a phrase and there's a good word in the other language that can
00:04:27.380 | summarize the meaning behind that.
00:04:29.640 | So those of you who speak two languages, which probably many of us in this room, or at least
00:04:34.680 | somewhat, you know at least enough that there are certain words that just can't be translated
00:04:40.440 | that way.
00:04:41.440 | So when you compare the translations, you'll see that the words that are not easily translated,
00:04:49.840 | oftentimes you'll see the words differently in each translation or the phrase will come
00:04:54.080 | out differently in each translation.
00:04:56.120 | I know that some of you are already doing that, but that already tells you there's something
00:05:00.120 | going on in the Greek.
00:05:01.600 | Now it doesn't mean that there's hidden meaning, it just means that there wasn't an exact word
00:05:08.280 | that they could have used.
00:05:09.940 | So that's why there's debate as to well this word.
00:05:12.040 | So sometimes it's good to look at all of it.
00:05:15.240 | A perfect example of the word is the word "meno".
00:05:18.880 | It means to abide, and the word abide has many different facets of that word.
00:05:25.240 | And so if you look at the different translations, it'll say "remain", "to continue", "to abide",
00:05:30.400 | and all of that combined is the meaning of that word.
00:05:34.120 | So each translation only picked one that they thought would capture to the best of their
00:05:39.520 | ability.
00:05:40.520 | But if you really want to know, you have to know the meaning behind all of it because
00:05:43.600 | that word encompasses all of it.
00:05:46.480 | So I think getting in the habit of comparing translations is a good way to study the Bible.
00:05:53.360 | So now it's online.
00:05:55.280 | So before I used to have a Bible that had four translations.
00:06:00.620 | So basically New Testament was this thick because it was four translations.
00:06:04.240 | So you open it up and it would have about five or six different translations and the
00:06:08.160 | Greek text.
00:06:09.440 | And then so I was able to look it up like this and show it.
00:06:12.960 | So whenever I looked at that Bible, again, just...
00:06:18.600 | It would be huge.
00:06:20.880 | The four, the three different philosophies of translation...
00:06:24.320 | Did I say something?
00:06:27.320 | Oh yeah, yeah.
00:06:31.280 | Okay.
00:06:32.280 | Somebody already pointed that out to me.
00:06:38.480 | Okay.
00:06:40.920 | You guys can fix it on your own.
00:06:43.640 | So the literal translations are the ones that use the philosophy where they're going to
00:06:48.360 | make it as close to the Greek as possible.
00:06:51.600 | So NASB, King James, and RSV was translated with that philosophy.
00:06:58.160 | So it's not that they made it difficult.
00:07:00.880 | So when it comes to NASB and RSV, they tried to make it so that it's understandable, but
00:07:08.120 | their primary philosophy was they're going to keep it to the Greek as close as possible.
00:07:12.800 | Where King James used the same principle, but they just didn't care.
00:07:17.200 | They just stuck with the Greek.
00:07:19.240 | Dynamic equivalent, NIV, and there are other translations, but the NIV is the one that
00:07:23.320 | most people know about.
00:07:25.080 | Dynamic equivalent is they did their best to translate the Greek text, except when it
00:07:29.800 | came to things that you couldn't understand.
00:07:33.080 | If they phrased it a certain way that it just wouldn't make sense in English, they translated
00:07:36.960 | it for you.
00:07:39.760 | So it's kind of in between the literal and the paraphrase.
00:07:43.200 | That's what the NIV is.
00:07:44.700 | But the reason why NIV is not the best translation to study out of, if you're really trying to
00:07:50.840 | dig, because when it came to certain issues, they translated it for you.
00:07:55.960 | Meaning they basically put into the Bible, this is what this word means.
00:08:01.960 | This is what this phrase means.
00:08:03.120 | This is what Paul meant when he said this.
00:08:05.320 | So they go the extra step and it kind of functions like a commentary.
00:08:10.500 | For the most part, it's a great Bible.
00:08:12.400 | I would say majority of it, that is not an issue.
00:08:15.520 | But there's enough of it in the NIV that as you are studying it, word for word, verse
00:08:21.960 | by verse, chapter by chapter, oftentimes when you compare with other translations, especially
00:08:26.360 | the literal translations, they did a lot of translating for you.
00:08:30.560 | It's almost kind of like reading a commentary rather than the Bible itself.
00:08:34.360 | And then the paraphrase translation, obviously, is they wanted to get the Bible, but they
00:08:41.400 | were more interested that you understood it.
00:08:44.720 | So they paraphrased it.
00:08:45.880 | So I've been going back and forth with Everest, whether this is a dynamic equivalent or not.
00:08:52.520 | The pigeon, P-I-D, not the pigeon, the bird, but the message, the Ebonics Bible, these
00:09:01.440 | are all things that they were more concerned that you understood it in modern language.
00:09:07.400 | Let me read John 3, 16 for you in the pigeon language, okay?
00:09:11.560 | God went get so plenty love and aloha for the people inside the world that he went send
00:09:18.840 | me his one and only boy so that everybody that trust me don't get cut off from God,
00:09:28.340 | but get the real kind life that stay the max forever.
00:09:34.680 | Again, we were going back and forth whether this is dynamic equivalent or not.
00:09:41.200 | I'm not sure about that.
00:09:44.800 | Anyway, the reason why I sometimes compare with the paraphrase translations, because
00:09:51.800 | it's hard to understand in the literal, and even the dynamic equivalent, you kind of have
00:09:56.640 | a hard time understanding what it means.
00:09:58.880 | So when I look at the paraphrase, they actually would have a whole sentence.
00:10:02.920 | It's almost kind of looking at a commentary, that this is what they think that this meant.
00:10:08.640 | So whenever I study the Bible, I have different translations that are open on my computer
00:10:12.960 | and I compare, especially the ones that are difficult to understand.
00:10:15.940 | So in this text that we're looking at, there's some examples of that.
00:10:22.760 | What are some words...
00:10:24.760 | I already got a couple of questions about elementary principle, taking his stand, the
00:10:32.600 | word self-abasement.
00:10:33.600 | These are a lot of words that you look at and say, "Well, what does he mean by that?"
00:10:40.400 | We'll get to that.
00:10:43.600 | So if you look at the different translations, you'll see that those words were translated
00:10:47.200 | differently in different translations.
00:10:50.400 | So you already know what's going on.
00:10:52.600 | There's something going on that couldn't be translated directly.
00:10:56.320 | The word here for self-abasement literally means voluntary humility by own volition.
00:11:04.200 | Now King James straight up said, "Like some voluntary humility, or delight in voluntary
00:11:12.720 | humility."
00:11:13.720 | That's what it says.
00:11:14.720 | But what does that mean?
00:11:18.080 | So the ESV translated asceticism, NIV translated false humility, and then the NASB translated
00:11:27.040 | self-abasement.
00:11:28.040 | So again, you kind of get the idea that there's something going on here that couldn't be translated
00:11:34.520 | literally, so they have to use what?
00:11:37.080 | The context.
00:11:39.160 | The context of what could he have possibly meant by voluntary humility.
00:11:45.760 | So we're not there yet, but since we're here, what do you think he means when you look at
00:11:52.640 | the context?
00:11:57.080 | Voluntary humility.
00:11:59.520 | Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize, but abide delighting in self-abasement.
00:12:07.720 | Look at all the different translations.
00:12:09.280 | Asceticism, false humility, voluntary humility.
00:12:13.600 | What do you think he means by self-abasement?
00:12:18.040 | Looking at the context.
00:12:25.960 | Look at the context of what he's been saying, and what he is saying.
00:12:31.280 | What does it mean to delight in self-abasement?
00:12:34.560 | Are you guys thinking, or just waiting?
00:12:47.360 | What is he talking about in the context?
00:12:49.400 | Faith?
00:12:50.400 | Okay, fake humility.
00:12:54.520 | What is he talking about in the context here though?
00:12:58.200 | Self-denial, right?
00:13:00.080 | Don't do this, don't do that, don't touch this, right?
00:13:03.240 | So basically when they're doing that, what are they doing?
00:13:07.280 | They're presenting themselves as godly by denying themselves, but it's fake, right?
00:13:14.760 | Because what are they doing that for?
00:13:15.920 | They're all of that for what?
00:13:17.560 | For presentation, just like the Pharisees.
00:13:21.080 | When they would fast, they would make sure that everybody knew that they were fasting,
00:13:25.400 | right?
00:13:26.400 | They put on long faces and they're walking around saying, "Hey, I'm fasting, I'm not
00:13:31.000 | eating."
00:13:32.000 | So all of that, that self-denial, this fake godliness on the outside, all for self-righteousness,
00:13:40.120 | right?
00:13:41.760 | So if you look at it in the context, voluntary humility, false humility, asceticism, self-abasement.
00:13:48.880 | So when you look at it, it's like, okay, they translate it in different words, but when
00:13:52.840 | you put that all together within the context in which he's writing it, he's talking about
00:13:57.420 | somebody who's using their humility, but they're not really humble.
00:14:04.040 | They say, "Look at my humility.
00:14:09.360 | I'm the most humble person in the world."
00:14:11.400 | So it's the opposite of humility, it's fake humility.
00:14:17.200 | So that's just an example of looking at the text, looking at the different translations,
00:14:23.040 | see what's going on, dig a little bit further, and then the immediate context is always the
00:14:28.840 | one that you wanna look at, right?
00:14:31.020 | And then if you wanna go a step further than that, you look at cross-references.
00:14:34.640 | Or there are other parts of the Bible where this word is used, and how did Paul and how
00:14:38.760 | did other writers use this word?
00:14:40.940 | And that'll help you to see collectively, "Oh, this is what he means by that."
00:14:47.080 | So when it comes to this, so far I've asked you to not to look at commentaries, not to
00:14:53.640 | read your study Bibles, because I don't want you to jump from the text to someone else's
00:14:58.180 | insights and then say, "I've got an insight," right?
00:15:02.160 | You get in the habit of doing that, you'll be doing that all your life and you'll never
00:15:04.800 | really know the Bible.
00:15:05.800 | You'll know what somebody says about the Bible, but you don't know the Bible itself, okay?
00:15:11.000 | One of the tools that I would want to introduce to you is a Bible dictionary.
00:15:16.600 | So especially for something like this.
00:15:18.080 | So when a word comes out that is hard to understand, the translators had a difficult time, then
00:15:24.120 | that's when a Bible dictionary comes out and you look up that word and look at the literal.
00:15:28.360 | A lot of times it doesn't help, okay?
00:15:30.680 | [laughter]
00:15:31.680 | And the reason why it doesn't help, it'll say, "Humility, lowering yourself," right?
00:15:39.840 | Something like that.
00:15:40.840 | So it doesn't necessarily help until you get to the actual application of it, right?
00:15:46.200 | So if you say, like, "Submission," the literal word is to put yourself under military command
00:15:55.800 | or something to that effect, or stand under something.
00:15:58.440 | Or "Perseverance" is to be under pressure, right?
00:16:03.000 | Standing under pressure, that's a literal understanding of it.
00:16:05.200 | So those type of words, when you look at the literal understanding of it, it gives you
00:16:08.800 | a picture, right?
00:16:10.480 | "Patience" literally means long suffering, suffering for a long period of time.
00:16:14.960 | So those type of things, it helps, but that's not there for every single word.
00:16:21.160 | Sometimes you can get carried away, and sometimes I hear preachers saying, "God says to work
00:16:27.800 | hard, and work hard means to really labor with all your might."
00:16:31.520 | Yeah, that's what "work hard" means, you know what I mean?
00:16:35.380 | But they kinda get carried away thinking, like, if you dig into the Greek, there's some
00:16:38.640 | special meaning that you're gonna be able to find in every single word, in every single
00:16:42.520 | context, it doesn't.
00:16:44.600 | Majority of it is plain in the text itself.
00:16:47.640 | Only when it comes to words like this, where it's clearly they had a hard time translating
00:16:51.840 | it with one word.
00:16:53.560 | Then you can go to the extra help to help you to do that, right?
00:16:58.360 | You don't need to be carried away.
00:16:59.780 | Majority of what you need to know is already in the English, okay?
00:17:03.120 | So that's my point.
00:17:04.800 | Alright, let's look at the outline.
00:17:09.080 | I outlined it in three ways, let no one judge you.
00:17:12.120 | If you look at it, the two words that pop out in verse 16 and 18 is "let no one," right?
00:17:18.720 | Let no one judge you, verse 18, let no one defraud you, right?
00:17:23.180 | So that's the first outline.
00:17:25.560 | Let no one judge you, 18, 19, let no one defraud you.
00:17:29.640 | Again, this is not science, this is just, you know, this is the way I outlined this.
00:17:34.000 | So if I was giving a sermon, or if I was giving a lesson, this is the outline that I see,
00:17:38.800 | and this is how I would break it up, okay?
00:17:41.480 | Because this is, I see his thought flow in this way, okay?
00:17:46.000 | And then the last part, verse 20 to 23, "If you died with Christ, then why do you live
00:17:50.280 | for the world?"
00:17:51.280 | If this happened, why do you do this?
00:17:54.860 | And that's verse 20 to 23, okay?
00:17:59.920 | What's interesting is, if we go back to the previous passage in chapter 2, verse 4, and
00:18:05.040 | then chapter 2, verse 8, it also has the "no one" verse, right?
00:18:09.680 | Let no one delude you, in chapter 2, verse 4, right?
00:18:14.040 | With persuasive speech.
00:18:16.160 | Chapter 2, verse 8, let no one take you captive.
00:18:19.980 | So if you look at these four "no one" statements, chapter 2, verse 4, 8, 16, and 18, the first
00:18:27.520 | two about not, let no one, let no one delude you, let no one take you captive, with false
00:18:35.440 | teaching, okay?
00:18:38.560 | So the two warnings is about false teaching.
00:18:43.000 | The two warnings that are here is the application of that false teaching, okay?
00:18:50.120 | So the "no one" in verse 2 and 8, and then the "no one" in verse 16 and 18 are connected.
00:18:55.520 | Because Paul is basically giving them warning about these false prophets who are coming
00:18:59.520 | in and they're deluding the truth and they're taking you captive, and don't let them judge
00:19:04.600 | you, and don't let them defraud you of your prize.
00:19:07.540 | So the two are, watch out for false teaching, and then the next two is basically watch out
00:19:13.420 | for the, watch out for the application of these false teaching, okay?
00:19:18.680 | All right, so that's where we are.
00:19:26.680 | So therefore, no one, no one, no one judge you, no one defraud you, okay?
00:19:36.720 | Regarding food or drink, and this is a theme that we see here, right?
00:19:40.160 | Do not touch, do not eat, do not taste, right?
00:19:43.240 | About respect for festivals, new moons, and Sabbath day.
00:19:46.960 | Who is this speaking to, Jews or Gentiles?
00:19:51.160 | Clearly, the Jews.
00:19:55.040 | The Gentiles didn't practice the Sabbath, right?
00:19:58.480 | So he's talking to the Judaizers who are coming in and saying, "It is not enough for you to
00:20:02.960 | believe in Jesus.
00:20:04.700 | You have to believe in Jesus and you have to be a Jew."
00:20:06.960 | So you have to first be a Jew to be a Christian.
00:20:10.360 | That's what the basic teaching of the Judaizers were.
00:20:13.160 | So remember, we talked about where Colossae existed.
00:20:16.680 | How close are they to Galatia?
00:20:19.560 | Remember?
00:20:21.560 | Right, they're right there, right?
00:20:26.280 | So remember when Paul wrote Galatians, right?
00:20:30.400 | Because of the concern that the Judaizers were having on the churches, and not just
00:20:33.880 | Galatia but all the churches there.
00:20:35.800 | Colossae is one of the churches there.
00:20:37.800 | So Judaizers had a tremendous influence in that area, that area in Asia Minor, okay?
00:20:43.560 | So he's addressing that issue of these false teachers who are coming in and saying that
00:20:48.760 | you're not free, right?
00:20:51.640 | You still have to obey these laws.
00:20:53.200 | So Paul is writing this to basically saying that, right, don't let them judge you.
00:20:58.240 | In other words, don't let them pressure you to go back to the old system.
00:21:03.200 | These are just these festivals, what to eat, new moon festival, Sabbath.
00:21:07.400 | These are things that's the shadow of what is to come, but the substance belongs to Christ,
00:21:12.760 | okay?
00:21:13.920 | The word for substance, I think somebody asked a question.
00:21:18.600 | The word for substance literally means body.
00:21:24.840 | That make sense?
00:21:27.880 | So when you look at it in the Greek, when it says body, it says the shadow, all of these
00:21:33.560 | things are a shadow, but the real body is Christ.
00:21:36.800 | It makes a lot more sense in the Greek, right?
00:21:39.780 | So King James says body.
00:21:41.880 | Yeah, everything else, they said substance or anybody have NIV or, I forgot to put that
00:21:50.560 | down.
00:21:51.560 | Who has different translation of the NISB?
00:21:55.560 | Huh?
00:21:58.560 | Bound?
00:22:01.560 | Found?
00:22:04.560 | Foundation?
00:22:07.560 | NIV.
00:22:10.560 | How did you get that?
00:22:15.560 | Which translation are you looking at?
00:22:18.560 | Yeah, reality is in Christ, right?
00:22:20.560 | That's what I remember.
00:22:21.560 | Anybody have ESV?
00:22:22.560 | I think ESV also has substance, right?
00:22:26.560 | Yeah, okay.
00:22:27.560 | All right, so it's one of those words, again, I think, I don't know why they didn't translate
00:22:32.680 | it body, because the body makes a lot more sense, because it directly connects the shadow
00:22:38.400 | to Jesus, right?
00:22:40.520 | So in other words, what is he saying?
00:22:41.720 | That all of these things were just a shadow, reflection of Christ.
00:22:46.160 | So why would you go back to the reflection when the body, who is Jesus, shows up, right?
00:22:54.160 | Unless you didn't have the body, all you had was a shadow, then you're carefully studying
00:22:58.000 | the shadow, but why would you carefully study the shadow when Jesus is standing right in
00:23:01.760 | front of you, right?
00:23:03.260 | That's his point.
00:23:04.760 | So don't let them judge you on these things, because the reality, the body itself has come
00:23:08.480 | in Christ.
00:23:09.480 | Verse 18, "Let no one keep defrauding you of your price."
00:23:13.160 | Not only are they judging you, they're preventing you from your price if you go back to the
00:23:17.680 | old covenant, by delighting in self-abasement, and we already talked about that, right?
00:23:23.840 | This false humility of thinking that they're being pious, right?
00:23:29.000 | And that was a whole rebuke toward the Pharisees and the scribes, right?
00:23:31.980 | Everything you do, you do for other people to see.
00:23:34.380 | You're not being righteous in the eyes of God, you wanna be seen as righteous before
00:23:38.280 | men, right?
00:23:40.040 | And that was the Judaizers.
00:23:42.080 | You can be a Christian, but you still have to fall in line.
00:23:45.160 | So basically what the Judaizers were doing, they earned this religious credit among the
00:23:51.360 | Jewish people, and they were the top leaders in the synagogue, so everybody had to submit
00:23:56.120 | to them.
00:23:57.120 | So when Christianity came, all of a sudden, Jesus flips the table over.
00:24:02.040 | He had tax collectors, he had fishermen, he had people who didn't have strong standing
00:24:08.320 | in society, all of a sudden, they became the leaders.
00:24:12.280 | So what the Judaizers were doing is they were trying to maintain their status while bringing
00:24:17.480 | in Christianity.
00:24:19.120 | So by them saying, "No, no, you have to keep the Sabbath, you gotta do this, this, and
00:24:23.360 | this," which they were already doing, they were experts in doing.
00:24:26.520 | They were known in the community as being law keepers, right?
00:24:30.980 | So it wasn't simply a confusion of the law, it wasn't simply that they had a hard time
00:24:35.280 | transitioning from the covenant, old to the new covenant.
00:24:38.760 | What they were having a hard time with is this new kingdom where he completely overthrows
00:24:43.960 | their values.
00:24:46.040 | They wanted to maintain their status while bringing Christianity underneath, right?
00:24:51.620 | So you can convert, and we're allowing you to come because of Jesus, but you still have
00:24:55.640 | to come under us, right?
00:24:58.300 | And that's what's being rebuked, that everything that they do is not because they're seeking
00:25:02.200 | righteousness, it's false humility, false righteousness.
00:25:07.760 | Worship of angels, which we talked about, in that particular area, Asia Minor was struggling
00:25:11.380 | with that.
00:25:12.980 | Taking a stand on visions he has seen.
00:25:15.160 | Again, the word "taking a stand," some of your translations says, "goes into much detail,"
00:25:20.320 | right?
00:25:21.320 | "Goes into great detail."
00:25:22.320 | Basically, what he's saying is, this is their source of pride.
00:25:26.720 | They're going on and on about this extracurricular vision that they saw, and what is the reason
00:25:31.640 | why they're doing that?
00:25:33.880 | I'm more spiritual than you, right?
00:25:36.960 | Just like their false humility, they're going into these details in order to what?
00:25:44.400 | Just like the NASB says, "to take their stand."
00:25:47.880 | In other words, to keep status above everybody else, right?
00:25:53.280 | Does that make sense?
00:25:56.680 | Or you look confused.
00:25:57.680 | It make sense?
00:25:59.360 | Okay.
00:26:00.360 | So, all of it has the same theme.
00:26:02.560 | It's fake righteousness, all for the purpose of their own glory, right?
00:26:07.240 | Inflated without cause by fleshly mind, right?
00:26:10.440 | In other words, they have no real cause to brag.
00:26:17.000 | It's all in their flesh.
00:26:18.040 | It's not real.
00:26:19.040 | And then, verse 19, "and not holding fast to the head," because true righteousness in
00:26:23.440 | the New Covenant is found in relation to Christ, right?
00:26:27.960 | So they're trying to find their status and righteousness outside of Christ, which is
00:26:32.160 | all false humility, false righteousness.
00:26:35.220 | They're going into details about visions and experiences that they had, instead of connecting
00:26:40.780 | to Christ, right?
00:26:44.240 | So doesn't that happen in our generation, in our churches, in our lives?
00:26:51.240 | If we want status and to be recognized, we can talk about our experiences.
00:26:57.000 | We can talk about how much schooling that we had.
00:26:59.280 | We can talk about how big our churches are.
00:27:03.360 | We can talk about our status, our finances, whatever it may be.
00:27:07.080 | If we want to be recognized, we present, "This is what I did.
00:27:10.280 | Oh, I fasted this much," or "I did that and I did that," right?
00:27:13.680 | And that's basically what they're saying is doing.
00:27:16.000 | They're trying to present themselves to be more godly, more righteous than other people,
00:27:20.280 | but it's all fake, right?
00:27:22.200 | It has nothing to do with Christ.
00:27:23.840 | And not holding fast to the head, not holding fast to the head, which is Christ, for whom
00:27:33.000 | the entire body, right?
00:27:36.460 | So notice how he says that the shadow is what to come, but the body belongs to Christ, which
00:27:45.400 | is fulfilled, and we are part of that body, right?
00:27:50.120 | So again, it would make a lot more sense in the Greek when you're reading it and you see
00:27:55.200 | these words that are connected, right?
00:27:58.400 | So the entire body being supplied and held together by joints and ligaments grows with
00:28:04.600 | growth, which is from God.
00:28:07.080 | So how does growth happen?
00:28:11.040 | Our body connected to his body, right?
00:28:15.580 | When we are connected to his body, all this stuff about self-abasement, worship of angels,
00:28:20.100 | you know, taking stand on divisions, inflated by our flesh, all of these things are fake
00:28:27.740 | that God rejects, right?
00:28:30.120 | What God desires is for us to be connected to the head, that our body connected to his
00:28:34.280 | body, right?
00:28:37.760 | And then he goes to the second part, "If, then why," right?
00:28:43.840 | If you died with Christ, why do you live in the world, right?
00:28:50.220 | That's the argument.
00:28:51.820 | If you died with Christ, the elementary principles of the world, the word here for elementary
00:28:55.580 | principles, again, is another one of those words that, you know, requires a little bit
00:28:59.680 | of digging.
00:29:01.620 | The word, again, literally means rudimentary things, like fundamental, foundational, right?
00:29:09.180 | ABCs.
00:29:10.540 | So if you died to the ABCs of the elementary principles of the world, and what is he talking
00:29:17.540 | about here, the elementary principles?
00:29:24.020 | The law, specifically.
00:29:26.000 | This is why you need the context, right?
00:29:28.820 | Without the context, you can say, you know, like you can just go into just the world and
00:29:33.380 | say, "Oh, these are the fundamental things that we learn," like, you know, ABC 1, 2,
00:29:38.620 | 3, right?
00:29:39.620 | That's not what he's talking about.
00:29:41.780 | He's talking about specifically the elementary principles that was given to you in God's
00:29:48.020 | design.
00:29:49.020 | In other words, you're going back to the first step, right?
00:29:55.940 | God brought you to calculus, but you're going back to plus and minus.
00:30:00.700 | Does that make sense?
00:30:03.300 | So in other words, he's saying, if you died to the elementary principle, the ABCs of the
00:30:08.140 | gospel, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to the decrees?
00:30:15.020 | The purpose of learning ABCs is so that you can read, right?
00:30:21.940 | You don't go around memorizing ABCD and then you're 15, you're still, "ABCD."
00:30:26.660 | Wow, you're really good at your ABCDs, but you can't read.
00:30:31.780 | Because the point of learning the ABCD is so that you can read.
00:30:36.060 | And then every year you're learning to read better.
00:30:38.180 | So in other words, he planted his law in the Old Testament and all the covenant and all
00:30:42.620 | the things of Leviticus as a foundation, right?
00:30:48.260 | As a foundation for what?
00:30:50.060 | To understand Christ.
00:30:52.900 | So understanding Christ, he gave us all of this so that we can read Christ.
00:30:57.540 | So if you, if you miss Christ, you miss the whole point of the ABCs.
00:31:02.820 | Does that make sense?
00:31:09.140 | So if you don't understand how Leviticus, how Numbers, how Old Testament laws, the prophecies,
00:31:17.140 | the judgment, the kings, how all of this laid the foundation for the coming of Christ, then
00:31:22.820 | you missed the whole point of the Old Testament.
00:31:26.380 | Isn't that exactly what Jesus said?
00:31:27.460 | He looked for the scriptures to look for life.
00:31:28.980 | In other words, you thought that the ABCs were going to give you life.
00:31:31.820 | He said, "ABCs was all about me."
00:31:36.020 | That's why he says, "I didn't come to abolish the law."
00:31:39.340 | He didn't come and say, "The ABCs are wrong."
00:31:41.340 | What did he say?
00:31:42.740 | "I came to fulfill it."
00:31:46.020 | You learned your ABCs so that you can know who I am, right?
00:31:50.180 | That's what he means.
00:31:51.260 | If you died to the elementary principles because now the body, now the shadow, right, that
00:31:58.140 | was cast by the body, Christ, came, why are you laying again the foundation of ABC, right?
00:32:04.900 | If you know how to read.
00:32:06.920 | You don't take somebody who knows how to read and say, "Hey, I got a lesson for you.
00:32:10.260 | Let's go back, study ABC."
00:32:15.160 | Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch, right?
00:32:19.300 | All Old Testament stuff, which all are destined to perish, right?
00:32:27.180 | In accordance to the commandments of teachings of men, these are just teachings of men.
00:32:31.300 | This is not from God.
00:32:33.760 | They have the appearance of wisdom and this is why this was so tempting.
00:32:42.780 | They are made self-made religion and self-abasement with severe treatment to the body, but have
00:32:50.900 | no power against the flesh.
00:32:55.060 | And the reason why this was so deceiving is because it's tangible, right?
00:33:05.700 | It's easy.
00:33:09.300 | Just like anything else, right?
00:33:12.020 | If you want to lose weight, do these three things and don't do these three things, right?
00:33:17.460 | You want to get closer to God, do these three things, don't do these three things.
00:33:21.500 | But the fundamental teaching of the gospel is you can't get to God like that, right?
00:33:28.260 | You can't get to God by making three-year plans.
00:33:33.300 | You can't get to God by not watching certain programs and doing this and doing that, because
00:33:38.500 | all of that in and of itself has no power to change you.
00:33:42.300 | It can change your appearance.
00:33:45.780 | It can change the way you present yourself to people.
00:33:48.140 | It can change the way that people look at you and say, "Oh, that guy is so disciplined.
00:33:51.960 | That guy is so godly."
00:33:53.300 | But it doesn't do anything to change who you are, right?
00:33:58.300 | It has no power to change who you are.
00:33:59.620 | So is discipline wrong?
00:34:03.020 | Of course not.
00:34:05.520 | The Bible is filled with commandments to be disciplined, right?
00:34:10.620 | To run this race as to win, to buff up my body, make it my slave.
00:34:14.420 | That's possibly after I preach so that I may be disqualified.
00:34:16.700 | So the Bible tells us to be disciplined.
00:34:18.860 | But the problem with their teaching was the discipline was what led them to God, right?
00:34:28.020 | And that was their problem.
00:34:29.020 | That was the false teaching, that if you kept these commandments, kept these laws, that
00:34:33.100 | somehow they were gonna be righteous.
00:34:36.740 | And that's what he's preaching against.
00:34:38.500 | You have no power in and of yourself to do that, right?
00:34:42.460 | All of these things, they look like they have wisdom.
00:34:46.780 | It's coming from traditions of men.
00:34:49.700 | The self-made religion, right?
00:34:53.580 | If you think about it, in every religion, in every religion, the principle is pretty
00:34:57.980 | much the same.
00:34:59.640 | In every religion, right?
00:35:01.940 | If you're good, outweigh the bad.
00:35:04.860 | Good things are gonna happen to you.
00:35:06.900 | If you do good things, right?
00:35:09.380 | You're gonna be rewarded with good things.
00:35:11.060 | That's the fundamental teaching of every religion, right?
00:35:15.860 | What that good is, is different.
00:35:18.000 | And what that reward is, is gonna be different.
00:35:20.080 | But the principle's the same.
00:35:22.060 | You work hard, be a good person, and good things will happen to you.
00:35:25.700 | The gospel doesn't teach that.
00:35:28.220 | The gospel is exactly the opposite of that.
00:35:30.660 | You can be good all your life and stand condemned before God.
00:35:34.840 | Your good is not good enough, right?
00:35:38.040 | Because you can't change.
00:35:39.040 | Can a leper change his spot?
00:35:40.860 | Can a sinner change his ways?
00:35:43.220 | You can't.
00:35:44.900 | So the point of the gospel is that only Christ and what he has done, and when we receive
00:35:50.300 | it with faith, has the ability to transform us, right?
00:35:55.460 | He was in Christ.
00:35:56.700 | He's a new creation.
00:35:57.700 | The old has gone, behold, the new has come.
00:36:00.620 | You become new.
00:36:01.620 | That's why he says you have to be born again.
00:36:02.820 | He doesn't say, "Hey, Nicodemus, you're great.
00:36:06.660 | You're a student, but you need to be A plus."
00:36:10.860 | That's not what he says.
00:36:12.940 | You have to die and be born again.
00:36:14.420 | It's like, "How can a man be born again?
00:36:16.660 | Enter again to a mother's womb?"
00:36:19.620 | Yes.
00:36:21.340 | Spiritually.
00:36:22.340 | You need to be born again spiritually.
00:36:26.540 | But even then, spiritually, like, "Well, how are you born again spiritually?"
00:36:30.620 | Well, the spirit is like the wind.
00:36:32.780 | No one knows when it comes and when it goes, right?
00:36:34.820 | Wait a second.
00:36:35.820 | I have to be born again of the spirit, but I have no way of knowing when it's coming,
00:36:41.540 | where it's going.
00:36:43.100 | So how can a man be born again?
00:36:44.580 | You can't by your own effort.
00:36:45.580 | It is by God's choice, right?
00:36:48.780 | God will do it, right?
00:36:50.700 | That was the point that he was trying to make.
00:36:52.740 | And so all this self-work, again, one of the questions that I ask here for your discussion
00:36:59.620 | at the end, if you look at it, the third question, "If man-imposed discipline has no value against
00:37:08.980 | fleshly indulgence, what role does accountability and fellowship play in our sanctification?"
00:37:14.780 | So the mistake that we can make is, since all this, like, "Don't touch this," and "Don't
00:37:20.420 | do this," and all this is of the old covenant, right?
00:37:23.740 | These are elementary things, and the reality is found in Christ, then why do we need to
00:37:28.940 | be disciplined?
00:37:29.940 | Why do we have to go to church?
00:37:34.540 | Why do we have to give?
00:37:35.540 | Why do we have to do any of it?
00:37:38.380 | We just receive and forget about it, right?
00:37:44.180 | Is that what this passage teaches?
00:37:49.100 | Let me tell you, just so that you don't become a heretic.
00:37:53.380 | No, that's not what it's teaching, okay?
00:37:56.500 | So then what does it teach?
00:37:58.140 | So I gave a few verses, instead of me having a discussion with you, I gave a few verses
00:38:02.220 | for you guys to look at.
00:38:07.220 | How do we reconcile the imperatives in the New Testament with what he says here?
00:38:12.980 | All of that, like, this self, you know, doing this, I'm not going to do this, I'm going
00:38:17.240 | to do that.
00:38:18.240 | Like, if all of that is false humility, it doesn't have the ability to change, right,
00:38:25.740 | to change the flesh, then what part does the discipline play?
00:38:30.820 | All right.
00:38:34.540 | I'm taking a chance letting you discuss this.
00:38:38.180 | So we've already, so all the small group leaders have been given the discussion questions ahead
00:38:42.980 | of time, okay?
00:38:44.780 | But I'll just give you the final answer.
00:38:46.260 | No, it is not.
00:38:47.260 | All right.
00:38:48.260 | The imperatives are there for a reason.
00:38:50.340 | But what role does it play?
00:38:51.420 | How do you reconcile this?
00:38:52.660 | Okay?
00:38:53.660 | So let me pray for us and then you guys can get into your group.
00:39:00.300 | Heavenly Father, we pray for much wisdom.
00:39:04.200 | We pray, Father God, that in a time of discussion that you would lead us deeper into understanding
00:39:08.980 | who you are, especially Lord God, as difficult as it is for us to leave behind our own flesh,
00:39:20.220 | desiring to have glory, to become somebody, to become better than who we are now.
00:39:26.860 | We know, Lord God, that that's of the world.
00:39:30.300 | Help us to recognize what it means to be crucified with Christ, to really embrace, to live a
00:39:37.300 | life, Lord God, that is hidden in him and eagerly waiting to be glorified when he comes
00:39:42.420 | with his glory.
00:39:44.220 | Teach us what that means in a practical way, that it would not simply be theory, but the
00:39:49.540 | evidence and the testimony of our lives.
00:39:52.860 | We pray for your guidance, Lord God, through our discussion.
00:39:55.100 | In Jesus' name we pray.
00:39:56.100 | Amen.