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Wed Bible Study - Revelation Lesson 8


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00:00:00.000 | Heavenly Father, we thank you for the privilege that we have to come and study your Word.
00:00:09.480 | We pray that you will give us insight, that your Word would truly judge the thoughts and
00:00:14.000 | intentions of our heart.
00:00:15.520 | Help us, Lord God, to seek you, to know you, and that we may profess our love to you with
00:00:21.400 | sincerity of heart.
00:00:23.280 | We ask, Lord God, that you would give us soberness as we study your Word.
00:00:26.080 | In Jesus' name we pray, amen.
00:00:28.440 | All right, so we're in Revelations chapter 6.
00:00:32.000 | We're getting into the obscure part of Revelation.
00:00:37.600 | And I think I mentioned this before, but let me reiterate.
00:00:40.600 | I didn't want to give you a box and say, "Hey, we're looking at a pre-tribulation, you know,
00:00:47.160 | pre-millennial view, so every passage that we look at, and I'm going to tell you exactly
00:00:51.480 | when this is going to happen and how this is going to happen."
00:00:55.440 | Because if I did that, you would end up coming out of the Bible with whatever view I give
00:01:00.760 | you.
00:01:03.080 | And I don't want you to be studying the book of Revelation like that, so I want you to
00:01:07.120 | be questioning and asking yourself the same questions that I'm asking.
00:01:12.360 | When is this going to take place?
00:01:13.680 | How is this going to take place?
00:01:15.660 | Has this already taken place?
00:01:17.520 | So I want you guys to be asking those critical questions as we're studying, instead of me
00:01:21.600 | telling you, "Hey, this didn't take place," or, "This has already taken place."
00:01:24.960 | Obviously, I have my views.
00:01:26.760 | It doesn't mean that I'm not going to mention it at all.
00:01:28.760 | I am going to mention it, but I'm not going to have every single passage that we're looking
00:01:33.440 | at and give you one particular view, okay?
00:01:37.120 | So I can't help but to influence you a certain way because I'm the one teaching, and I'm
00:01:42.640 | going to have certain views that I lean toward.
00:01:45.440 | But again, as you're studying it, I want you guys to be asking the same question.
00:01:50.360 | Has this taken place?
00:01:51.520 | Is this allegorical?
00:01:53.120 | Was this meant to be taken literally?
00:01:56.600 | And to think critically, right?
00:01:58.280 | So that if some part of it doesn't make sense, that you don't just hear what I say and say,
00:02:02.800 | "Oh, okay, that's what he said, so that's what it must be."
00:02:04.800 | So I don't want you to be studying it that way.
00:02:07.360 | For chapter six all the way to chapter 16, there's three different judgments, three sets
00:02:14.520 | of seven judgments, okay?
00:02:16.760 | Remember the three?
00:02:17.760 | Obviously, you know the first one.
00:02:20.040 | We studied.
00:02:21.040 | We're just studying it.
00:02:22.560 | You have the seal judgments.
00:02:24.880 | And what's the next one?
00:02:27.160 | The trumpet judgments.
00:02:29.240 | Then what's the last one?
00:02:31.520 | The bowl, right?
00:02:32.960 | The bowl judgments, okay?
00:02:34.960 | So we have 21 separate judgments that are...
00:02:39.160 | Every single one of them aren't judgments, but overall, the Archie theme is judgment,
00:02:43.520 | right?
00:02:44.520 | Now, I'm going to throw this question out there, and we're going to probably deal with
00:02:47.360 | it more not next week, but the week after.
00:02:50.100 | The question is, if you read from chapter six through 16, you'll see that by the time
00:02:56.240 | they get to the seventh seal, it kind of transitions into the first trumpet, right?
00:03:03.580 | And then there's kind of a chapter break between the sixth seal and the seventh seal.
00:03:08.400 | And then seventh seal is mentioned, and then the trumpets begin.
00:03:11.600 | You'll notice the same thing.
00:03:12.640 | At the end of the sixth seal, there is a break, right?
00:03:16.960 | It doesn't immediately go into the seventh trumpet, and there's all these things that
00:03:21.560 | take place.
00:03:22.560 | And then by the time it gets to the seventh trumpet, it opens up the bowl, okay?
00:03:27.120 | So the question that I want you to be wrestling with and just have in your mind, that are
00:03:31.760 | these seven, seven, seven judgments, are they consecutively seven, seven, seven, meaning
00:03:38.960 | total of 21, or are they seven judgments on the seventh one opens up the seven trumpets,
00:03:47.960 | and then on the seventh trumpet, it opens up the seventh bowl.
00:03:51.220 | So collectively, it's only seven.
00:03:54.840 | You understand the question?
00:03:56.480 | It's just that the seventh one opens up the seventh trumpet, the seventh trumpet opens
00:04:00.260 | up the seventh bowl, meaning the last part of the seventh year is very, very intense.
00:04:06.640 | Okay, I'm trying to see how many of you are engaging what I'm saying.
00:04:11.960 | Do you understand my question?
00:04:14.040 | So I want you guys to ask that question or think through that as you're reading and
00:04:18.240 | studying through the next, what, 10 chapters, right?
00:04:22.300 | Are these seven, seven, seven, or are they meant to be seven?
00:04:26.560 | Seventh one opening up the seven, and then the seventh of that opening up the seven,
00:04:29.540 | the totality seven.
00:04:30.540 | All right, I've said enough.
00:04:32.800 | So just kind of mull over that as we're studying it.
00:04:36.040 | I may mention it, you know, may not mention it, but again, that's one of the debates that
00:04:41.600 | they have of the interpretation of this, so just keep that in mind.
00:04:46.520 | All right, some preliminary things.
00:04:52.440 | What we see in chapter six is not the opening of the scroll, right?
00:04:57.720 | So they are not necessarily a scroll judgment, they're seventh seals.
00:05:00.920 | So we're talking about each one of these seals, as it gets broken, it unleashes the four horsemen
00:05:07.560 | and then later on the other three, right?
00:05:11.520 | So what we're seeing is not the scroll itself, but the breaking of the seals that would eventually
00:05:16.000 | lead to the scroll.
00:05:18.400 | Again, so that's our question, is that the seventh seal, when it gets broken, the scroll
00:05:23.440 | opens up, it doesn't, and that leads into the trumpet.
00:05:26.800 | Do you understand what I'm saying?
00:05:28.480 | And then the last trumpet opens up the bowl.
00:05:31.320 | I'm not saying that that's what's taking place, I'm asking you, okay?
00:05:34.340 | So what we're looking at now is not the scroll, but the seals that are being broken.
00:05:41.160 | As each seal is removed, it triggers preliminary judgment that will eventually lead to the
00:05:47.320 | opening of the scroll in chapter eight.
00:05:51.400 | So at the beginning of chapter eight, we'll see that the scroll, the seventh seal is broken
00:05:55.080 | and the scroll gets opened, but prior to that, there's all these things that take place and
00:06:00.560 | all of God's judgment begins to take place one by one.
00:06:06.360 | And then again, ultimately that will lead to the opening of the scroll.
00:06:12.880 | So the first four seals unleashed, it unleashed the first four horsemen and their judgment
00:06:20.360 | upon the earth.
00:06:22.480 | You probably heard of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, right?
00:06:27.080 | I mean, they've, I think there was a movie.
00:06:30.600 | Do you guys remember the movie?
00:06:35.600 | Huh?
00:06:36.600 | No, no, no, it's older than that.
00:06:40.800 | A Wild Wild West.
00:06:49.000 | Nobody remembers.
00:06:50.000 | Come on, Lee, help me out.
00:06:51.000 | Anyway, there was a movie and they use these four horsemen to describe the four men who
00:07:00.440 | come to fight these bad guys.
00:07:03.320 | Oh man, it's right here.
00:07:06.720 | It won't come out if I remember it.
00:07:10.080 | If you remember, can you let me know?
00:07:12.160 | All right.
00:07:13.660 | So it unleashes the four horsemen and the judgments.
00:07:19.560 | These four horsemen are mentioned in also in Zachariah, but there are slight bit of
00:07:25.240 | differences.
00:07:26.240 | So we're not going to jump back and forth because it's not, it's not an exact parallel,
00:07:29.660 | but they are mentioned in other parts.
00:07:31.840 | One of the things is the colors differ a little bit, right?
00:07:36.580 | They don't match exactly.
00:07:38.860 | And then even the purpose of these horsemen, these horses were in Zachariah, they are sent
00:07:44.360 | out to patrol the earth, but these horses are out and bringing devastation upon the
00:07:50.320 | earth.
00:07:51.320 | Right?
00:07:52.320 | So not to say that they are not the same horse, they're not the same judgment, but again,
00:07:56.680 | seems like the purpose of it is very different.
00:08:01.320 | And then the actions of these four horsemen carry out the related to what Jesus says in
00:08:06.400 | the various passages, Luke, Mark, Matthew, but particularly Mark chapter 13, seven and
00:08:11.720 | eight, it says that these judgments will come, right?
00:08:16.800 | When you seize wars and rumors of wars, it says it is the beginning of birth pains, meaning
00:08:23.040 | that we're close to the end.
00:08:24.920 | So one of the things that God warns us about, about the coming in times is that there's
00:08:31.520 | going to be increase in persecution, increase in hostility, increase in wars and rumors
00:08:37.200 | of war, famines.
00:08:38.560 | And so all the things that we're seeing, that this is not in and of itself is not the
00:08:42.560 | end, that those are only what's going to trigger the end.
00:08:47.000 | Right?
00:08:48.000 | Now, again, like I told you, I'm not going to give you like, oh, here's their view and
00:08:52.200 | here's the other people's view, but I do want to just broadly speaking, if you read some
00:08:58.280 | of your commentaries, they'll tell you that this all took place in the first century.
00:09:01.960 | Remember we talked about that?
00:09:02.960 | There's about three or four different approaches to interpretation of revelation.
00:09:06.840 | And one of them, one of the broad ones are that it took place in the first century.
00:09:11.440 | So we're just looking at history and they'll say, you know, the white horseman is this
00:09:15.440 | person or the antichrist is Nero and the destruction is the destruction of the temple and that's
00:09:20.480 | how they apply it.
00:09:21.720 | And so therefore the only thing for us to gain in revelation are principles.
00:09:26.080 | I don't believe that that's the case.
00:09:27.960 | And I think there's, again, in my opinion, there's enough that we'll see in revelation
00:09:33.880 | that it's pointing to a future reference, right?
00:09:37.360 | Now the idea of, is it going to be before tribulation, after tribulation, is it going
00:09:41.600 | to be literal seven years, literal thousand years?
00:09:44.240 | You know, that's something that I'm going to ask you guys to wrestle with as we're studying,
00:09:48.600 | but we're not studying as like this all happened.
00:09:51.440 | Okay.
00:09:52.520 | Just to kind of give you at least some direction.
00:09:54.040 | I don't want to like say you need to believe in this, but to give you some direction.
00:09:58.160 | Okay.
00:09:59.160 | So all of these things that are taking place are preliminaries.
00:10:02.260 | These are events that are going to trigger.
00:10:03.840 | So think about what you've already read in these four horsemen, that even if it was just
00:10:09.520 | those four things, right?
00:10:11.680 | Obviously there's seven of them, even this, just four of these horsemen carried out exactly
00:10:17.160 | what he says.
00:10:18.620 | Imagine how devastating the earth would be.
00:10:20.760 | But the scripture says that's just the beginning of birth pains.
00:10:24.320 | The actual tribulation is about to come when that happens.
00:10:29.760 | In other words, it seems to be ready.
00:10:34.520 | Each of these seals, with the exception of the fifth seal, seems to be escalating.
00:10:39.040 | So it's not one or like each one is different.
00:10:42.640 | So there are some differences, but if you've noticed that each one of these triggers the
00:10:48.180 | other one and then it escalates one above the other and it continues to get worse until
00:10:53.540 | the very end, right?
00:10:55.380 | So it's not a tribulation where it's kind of steady and then boom, all of a sudden something
00:11:00.180 | happened.
00:11:01.180 | There's an increase in escalation, right?
00:11:03.600 | So if we are to, whether we're in it or we're going to see the beginning of it and it'd
00:11:07.980 | be raptured, whatever view you may have, that we're supposed to watch for this, right?
00:11:14.060 | So when you see turmoil in the world and some of these things that are happening, that it
00:11:18.940 | could be birth pains, right?
00:11:21.280 | That may trigger.
00:11:22.280 | In fact, again, I'm sure everybody at some point taught teaching revelations may have
00:11:27.540 | looked at what's going on in the world and say, "Hey, this must be it."
00:11:31.820 | So I could imagine World War I, right?
00:11:34.660 | And people thought, "Well, the world, the whole world, it wasn't just one country or
00:11:37.940 | one group against another.
00:11:38.940 | The whole world went into war."
00:11:40.720 | And then if that wasn't bad enough, it triggered the Second World War, you know?
00:11:44.980 | And then when that stopped and that was finished, it's like, "Man, how can it get any worse
00:11:48.740 | than that?"
00:11:49.900 | But then at the tail end of the Second World War, they developed a nuclear bomb.
00:11:54.560 | So imagine, again, I'm not saying that that's the case, but imagine when the scripture says
00:11:58.440 | a fourth of the earth will be wiped out, you know, that's, that's would have been unimaginable.
00:12:06.600 | Right now we can easily imagine that.
00:12:08.040 | In fact, that's what we're afraid of, that something's going to trigger a nuclear war
00:12:12.560 | and easily a fourth, maybe even more than that could be wiped out in an instant, right?
00:12:17.360 | So a lot of these things that are mentioned here, I'm not saying that that is the case,
00:12:21.760 | but the possibility of these things happening has become much more real today than it has
00:12:26.160 | ever been.
00:12:27.480 | And so you see, every single one of these judgments is an escalation.
00:12:32.840 | So before we get into this, now, I mean, there's obviously, there's a lot of it, but in particular
00:12:38.960 | in between chapter 6 and 16, right, where we're trying to figure out what is this trumpet,
00:12:44.520 | what is this judgment, and what is the white horse, and what is the red horse, before we
00:12:48.760 | get into that, I don't think the first generation of Christians who received this letter had
00:12:56.720 | any more clarity, at least that we know of, that would have said, "Oh, okay, the red horse
00:13:02.560 | must be talking about this guy."
00:13:04.080 | Right?
00:13:05.080 | And I don't think the readers of the Revelation in the first century, you know, like immediately
00:13:10.320 | they read it and they knew exactly where this application was, right?
00:13:14.580 | So the question is, why did God give us something this important?
00:13:19.520 | And that's actually one of the discussion questions that I have for you at the end.
00:13:23.360 | Why did God give us something this important when he told us to not to be like the Gentiles
00:13:29.440 | or the world, who's caught off guard in his second coming, is like, is not going to be
00:13:34.520 | a thief, right?
00:13:35.520 | Where you're going to be caught off guard, and it's going to be negative because you
00:13:39.000 | weren't prepared at all.
00:13:41.120 | And so he told us to watch and be careful and be ready and recognize the sign of the
00:13:45.960 | time.
00:13:46.960 | So why did he give something so important, so ambiguous, right?
00:13:53.840 | So maybe, you know, maybe later on when we figure it out or when Christ comes, it's like,
00:13:58.360 | "Oh, it wasn't ambiguous at all," you know?
00:14:00.480 | But as of now, after 2,000 years, they're still debating, we're still trying to figure
00:14:04.760 | out what it means, you know, and everybody has different opinions.
00:14:09.300 | But I think before we jump into all of this, because there's going to be a lot of discussion
00:14:12.540 | in the next 10 chapters about what does this mean, what does that mean?
00:14:16.500 | And the end conclusion is not going to be crystal clear, right?
00:14:20.840 | But I think we need to make sure that we receive it like the first generation people when they
00:14:26.860 | read this, what they would have heard, right?
00:14:29.620 | If you were the first recipients of this letter, what would have been your response?
00:14:38.500 | Because when we read it, we come out, "Huh?
00:14:44.660 | What is that?
00:14:45.660 | When is that going to happen?"
00:14:46.940 | If you were the first recipients of this letter, what would have been your response?
00:14:55.500 | Don't think theologically.
00:15:00.140 | Huh?
00:15:02.660 | It's going to happen soon, right?
00:15:06.540 | It's going to happen soon.
00:15:07.780 | So if you knew that that was going to happen soon or you thought it was going to happen
00:15:10.700 | soon, how would you have received this letter?
00:15:14.060 | Probably fear, terror.
00:15:16.820 | Like, "When is this going to happen?
00:15:18.940 | Is this going to happen today, next week?"
00:15:20.540 | So if you thought that this was going to happen next week, I mean, forget going to work.
00:15:25.420 | You know what I mean?
00:15:26.420 | Forget YOLO, you know, because if he comes tomorrow, I mean, all this plan of traveling,
00:15:32.820 | all this stuff is going to be nonsense, right?
00:15:35.700 | So the initial recipients of this letter, whether that was going to happen during their
00:15:39.380 | lifetime or soon or whenever it was, whether you understood exactly what it was going to
00:15:43.660 | be, you heard a devastation and judgment.
00:15:46.220 | So basically, God gave them a glimpse of his judgment, what it's going to look like.
00:15:51.460 | And this judgment is going to be more devastating than anything they have probably ever imagined,
00:15:56.860 | right?
00:15:58.340 | Because if you look at it, like, we're in the beginning birth pains.
00:16:02.220 | As we get closer, as we proceed, you'll see it's going to get much more intense than anything
00:16:08.180 | you've read this week, right?
00:16:10.920 | So I think it's important for us, as we are wrestling with the meaning and the application
00:16:15.340 | of all of this, the intent of this letter is to sober the church, right?
00:16:20.820 | The intent of this letter is so that we would not be caught off guard in making sure that
00:16:24.980 | this earth is passing away, that God's going to bring judgment upon this earth, and that
00:16:29.940 | whatever we invest here is going to be burned up because he's going to come and bring judgment.
00:16:34.500 | So the intent of the letter is to, one, encourage the church.
00:16:38.820 | Remember, John himself was probably in physical agony, and he says that judgment, retribution
00:16:45.000 | is coming toward the enemies, right?
00:16:47.240 | So in one sense, it's a comfort for Christians who are being beaten up and are being persecuted,
00:16:52.560 | but it's also a warning to the world, you know, to give a sense of soberness of the
00:16:57.920 | time that we have, that whether we live 70 years or 10 years or 20 years, that this is
00:17:02.800 | not our home, right?
00:17:05.480 | We're standing in a place where judgment's going to come and go, and there's going to
00:17:08.800 | be devastation.
00:17:09.800 | So that's the intent of this letter.
00:17:11.140 | So as we're getting into and trying to wrestle with what the meaning is, let's not miss the
00:17:16.000 | larger point of this letter, which is to keep us sober and give us a paradigm and a view
00:17:22.120 | of our life in the world and end times through his perspective.
00:17:26.400 | All right, so the first seal.
00:17:34.140 | So the distinctness of the first seal, it obviously says it's the white horse, and what
00:17:40.560 | does the white horse carry?
00:17:44.240 | It's not up there.
00:17:49.120 | What does the white horse carry?
00:17:51.680 | Come on, you read it.
00:18:01.520 | One like a voice of thunder.
00:18:03.520 | Whoa.
00:18:04.840 | Okay.
00:18:06.160 | All right.
00:18:08.160 | I hope you guys read it.
00:18:09.440 | All right, so it has a bow, right?
00:18:15.120 | It holds a bow symbolizing conflict and battle.
00:18:22.280 | There are some discussion, some opinions as to who the identity of the white horse, the
00:18:28.640 | horseman is.
00:18:29.640 | Now again, this is not a for sure thing, but there is in Revelation chapter 1911, if you
00:18:35.440 | can turn your Bible to Revelation chapter 1911, the white horse is mentioned again,
00:18:40.120 | and we're not sure if it is the exact same horse or same person, but in Revelation 1911,
00:18:48.400 | "Then I saw heaven opened and behold a white horse, the one sitting on it called faithful
00:18:54.280 | and true, and in righteousness he judges and makes war."
00:18:59.280 | So kind of sounds like it because the first white horse has a bow.
00:19:04.440 | Yes?
00:19:05.440 | Okay.
00:19:06.440 | "His eyes are like flame of fire and on the head are many diadems and he has name written
00:19:10.880 | that no one knows but himself.
00:19:13.000 | He is clothed in robe, dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is the word
00:19:17.000 | of God.
00:19:18.000 | And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him
00:19:22.040 | on white horses.
00:19:23.480 | From his mouth comes a sharp sword."
00:19:25.120 | Again, all of this is a description that we've seen about Christ in chapter 1, verse 16,
00:19:30.520 | "On his robe and on his thigh he has the name written, 'King of kings and Lord of
00:19:35.360 | lords.'"
00:19:36.360 | So clearly, the white horse, horseman, in Revelation chapter 9, that has to be Christ.
00:19:41.880 | That's clearly identification of Jesus.
00:19:44.600 | The only question is, is that white horse, horseman, the same white horseman of Revelation
00:19:49.540 | chapter 6?
00:19:51.080 | Okay.
00:19:52.080 | Again, my guess is that it is.
00:19:56.080 | That's my guess.
00:19:57.080 | Again, so as we continue to study, there are people who don't think it is, but it seems
00:20:01.680 | like, at least in the description, the fact that it is declaring war and that the white
00:20:06.640 | horse is shooting the bow, and that it is the first one, right?
00:20:12.280 | That him coming out triggers all the other things that take place.
00:20:16.220 | So it seems like, again, it doesn't change theology one way or another, but just kind
00:20:20.560 | of something to think of, right?
00:20:25.040 | And as I mentioned, "On him has the phrase, 'King of kings and Lord of lords.'"
00:20:35.640 | White signifies righteousness, and the writer seems to have the task of conquering and to
00:20:40.000 | conquer, which is interesting because the phrase conquering and to conquer, right?
00:20:46.080 | It seems like they're saying the same thing, but what is the purpose of saying conquering
00:20:49.520 | and conquer?
00:20:52.640 | That it's happening now, and it will keep happening.
00:20:57.040 | Yes?
00:20:58.200 | Right?
00:20:59.300 | So what the horse is doing, what the horseman is doing, declaring battle, there's some
00:21:03.120 | sort of conflict, and that he is conquering presently, that he didn't just come to conquer,
00:21:09.040 | but this act is taking place as of John writing this letter.
00:21:13.620 | He is conquering, and he will continue to conquer, right?
00:21:17.440 | So it is an ongoing act.
00:21:20.680 | And again, this is another reason why it seems like to me that it may be in reference to
00:21:24.880 | Christ himself, that he triggers all of this because maybe that the idea of conquering,
00:21:30.800 | and you notice that the white horseman has a bow, but something's missing?
00:21:36.940 | There's no arrows mentioned.
00:21:38.120 | Now, we could be reading into it, but the idea of conflict and yet without any kind
00:21:42.860 | of arrows, and yet he's out conquering.
00:21:46.660 | So it may be an allusion to what Christ says in Matthew 24, right?
00:21:53.940 | When the gospel reaches the remotest part of the world, he said he will come, then the
00:21:56.680 | end will come.
00:21:58.020 | So possibly if this is Christ, that his work is to conquer, is conquering, and will continue
00:22:03.420 | to conquer, meaning that the gospel will continue to be spread, right?
00:22:07.540 | Which is what's going on now.
00:22:08.580 | So the spreading of the gospel is the very first thing that takes place, and eventually
00:22:12.780 | when the full number has come, he said that's going to trigger the second horse, right?
00:22:19.420 | So you and I, he is conquering and will continue to conquer.
00:22:25.340 | We may be in that period as of now, okay?
00:22:32.200 | So the first horse triggers the second horse, which is the red horse, right?
00:22:38.660 | And the red horse, obviously the picture has a sword on him.
00:22:44.660 | The red symbolizing slaughter and bloodshed, obviously it's the devastation, like the first
00:22:51.040 | one just says he's conquering and is continuing to conquer.
00:22:54.020 | The second one says he's going to come and he's going to remove peace, which is an interesting
00:22:59.620 | way of saying that.
00:23:01.120 | He doesn't come to bring the disaster itself, it's that which restrains war.
00:23:07.260 | He said he's going to remove that.
00:23:09.180 | And then as a result of that, he said they're going to be, what?
00:23:17.620 | As a result of that, "Behold a white horse," and "out came another horse, bright red, its
00:23:26.460 | rider was permitted to take peace from the earth."
00:23:30.300 | So his tack is to take peace, right?
00:23:36.500 | He's not declaring war, he's taking peace so that the men should slay one another.
00:23:42.300 | So in other words, the restraining power that's restraining the nations and individuals to
00:23:47.260 | go to battle and to bring peace, he said he's going to take away that presence, that peace.
00:23:53.100 | And when that happens, he said basically men are free to do whatever they want, right?
00:23:58.700 | The restraining power is gone.
00:24:00.460 | And that's how it's described, right?
00:24:02.780 | In 2 Thessalonians 2, 3 to 8, remember Paul says to this church, he said, "Don't be alarmed
00:24:09.220 | that the man of lawlessness has come, the end has come, the crisis has come, that has
00:24:12.260 | not happened."
00:24:13.260 | He says, "Before the man of lawlessness has come, that which restrains him, right, will
00:24:18.660 | no longer restrain, and when he's not restrained, he will come.
00:24:21.780 | And when he comes, he's going to do his job, right, to bring lawlessness."
00:24:26.620 | And so that's what it seems like it's describing.
00:24:28.340 | The second seal is describing the restraining power that's keeping at least some level of
00:24:34.100 | peace, common grace, right, is going to be released.
00:24:37.860 | And so man's sinfulness is going to be unleashed upon each other without restraint.
00:24:42.780 | That's the second seal.
00:24:48.820 | Third seal is the black horse.
00:24:55.060 | And he's holding a, what is he holding in his hand?
00:24:57.940 | Okay, so pair of scales.
00:24:59.620 | So when you think of scales, what do you think of?
00:25:04.500 | Not making money.
00:25:06.500 | Judgment, right?
00:25:08.980 | Justice.
00:25:10.060 | So that's what he brings, right?
00:25:11.980 | He's come to dispense justice, and the way that he's going to dispense justice, meaning
00:25:16.900 | God's judgment, is that there's going to be a famine, right?
00:25:21.940 | A quart of wheat for Daenerys and three quarts of barley for Daenerys and do not harm the
00:25:27.620 | oil and wine.
00:25:28.780 | So basically this is a description of the judgment that's coming upon them.
00:25:44.340 | And then the fourth seal is the pale horse.
00:25:50.020 | And it says that his name is Death and Hades follows.
00:25:56.940 | Somebody remembers this movie?
00:25:59.900 | Wyatt Earp?
00:26:02.900 | Huh?
00:26:04.900 | Yeah, I know, but that's not the name of the movie.
00:26:11.180 | Huh?
00:26:13.420 | With Wyatt Earp?
00:26:14.420 | I don't think we're thinking about the same one.
00:26:17.980 | Maybe there was another movie.
00:26:19.860 | Wyatt Earp is the star of that movie?
00:26:22.140 | He is?
00:26:23.140 | Anyway, all right.
00:26:26.300 | It's bugging me because I'm on the topic.
00:26:28.140 | And this is the exact phrase that they use, that Wyatt Earp comes to basically get rid
00:26:33.620 | of the bad guys and he said, "Tell them I'm coming."
00:26:35.860 | Right?
00:26:36.860 | Huh?
00:26:37.860 | Tombstone, tombstone.
00:26:38.860 | There you go.
00:26:39.860 | Tombstone.
00:26:40.860 | Did you know it all this time and then not tell me?
00:26:42.940 | Yeah, okay.
00:26:43.940 | So tombstone.
00:26:44.940 | All right.
00:26:45.940 | Yeah.
00:26:46.940 | And remember the other guys that they described?
00:26:49.500 | Anyway, this is the four apocalypse.
00:26:50.780 | Okay, now I can go to sleep tonight.
00:26:53.380 | All right.
00:26:54.380 | So he said, "His name is Death and Hades will follow him."
00:26:59.140 | In other words, the judgment that he's going to bring is going to devastate the earth.
00:27:03.340 | Right?
00:27:04.340 | He said the fourth of the earth.
00:27:06.420 | He was given authority to kill a fourth of the earth with a sword.
00:27:13.140 | And then he said it's going to happen through sword, famine, pestilence, and wild beast.
00:27:21.380 | So if you think about it like wild beast, you know, they got the sword, you got the
00:27:27.740 | famine, you got pestilence and wild beast kind of, if you think about it, it's like
00:27:32.300 | if devastation comes, you know, like where mankind doesn't have a border and we're basically
00:27:39.460 | living in the jungle, right?
00:27:42.260 | Then wild beast will have its way.
00:27:43.660 | Again, you know, if you interpret it literally, but basically, you know, the meaning behind
00:27:48.460 | this obviously is that it's going to be devastating when that day comes.
00:27:53.940 | So again, I want you to think about this.
00:27:55.580 | You're first generation Christian listening to this, hearing this and thinking, "Wow,
00:28:00.180 | this is going to happen."
00:28:01.180 | Right?
00:28:02.180 | Whether it happens during their lifetime or some other time, basically it's saying the
00:28:06.980 | earth is going to disappear.
00:28:08.700 | So would you be that excited if you knew this was happening?
00:28:11.500 | Would you be that excited about, you know, building a big house or, you know, making
00:28:15.540 | plans for retirement?
00:28:17.940 | You know what I mean?
00:28:18.940 | I think it would have an effect if you read this and you don't know exactly when it's
00:28:23.300 | going to happen, but it's going to happen.
00:28:25.620 | It would definitely cause you to have a different paradigm of investment.
00:28:29.820 | What are you going to invest in?
00:28:31.260 | So not only is Jesus saying invest in things that aren't going to, you know, rot and spoil,
00:28:36.740 | he said it's, you know, it's not even going to rot and spoil, it's going to be destroyed.
00:28:41.460 | So why would you put your energy and money into that?
00:28:45.020 | Right?
00:28:47.020 | The fifth soil, the horsemen that are done are a description of the martyrs.
00:28:55.380 | So when he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls.
00:28:58.860 | So one of the things that I think I asked is why are they under the altar?
00:29:04.500 | The souls of those who had been slain by the word of God.
00:29:07.260 | So who are these people?
00:29:10.620 | They're martyrs, right?
00:29:12.240 | These are missionaries or whoever they were.
00:29:14.660 | They were, they weren't just martyred because they were Christian, they were martyred because
00:29:17.940 | they were spreading the word of God.
00:29:19.740 | So people like Apostle Paul, all the apostles, right?
00:29:23.020 | And so these people were martyred for the purpose of the gospel.
00:29:27.860 | And he says the fact that they were under the altar, the altar was a place where they
00:29:32.300 | came to worship and sacrifice, signifying that these, each one of these men and women
00:29:38.060 | who were martyred was serving a purpose of offering and worship to God.
00:29:48.580 | Paul also, if you remember in Philippians and 2 Timothy, when he's sitting in prison
00:29:52.940 | and he's writing this letter, especially in 2 Timothy, where he says, "I am being poured
00:29:56.740 | out like a drink offering."
00:29:59.660 | He described his martyrdom, his execution as a drink offering.
00:30:05.780 | And the reason why he describes it as a drink offering was in the Old Testament, drink offering
00:30:09.780 | was the last thing that you did before the end of the sacrifice.
00:30:14.420 | So after you've given the sacrifice, you pour the drink out, meaning that that was
00:30:18.220 | kind of like the conclusion.
00:30:19.340 | So Paul was saying that his life was a living sacrifice, but now his death is going to be
00:30:25.220 | another drink offering that is being poured out.
00:30:27.380 | So Paul uses that imagery, and it seems like that's the imagery here to describe these
00:30:31.740 | men and women who were martyred for the sake of the gospel.
00:30:36.500 | And they cry out, "How long before the judgment comes?
00:30:38.900 | When will they be vindicated for what has happened?"
00:30:41.900 | And what was the answer?
00:30:44.020 | He said, "Oh, sovereign Lord," verse 10, "holy and true, how long before you will
00:30:51.940 | judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"
00:30:55.620 | Then they were each given a white robe, symbolizing righteousness, and told to rest.
00:31:03.940 | Rest a little longer until the number of the fellow servants and their brothers should
00:31:10.100 | be complete.
00:31:11.100 | So who are the number of their fellow servants and their brothers?
00:31:15.380 | There's others who are going to be martyred.
00:31:17.100 | In other words, God is allowing it.
00:31:21.460 | The set number of people who are going to be numbered, who are going to be martyred
00:31:24.820 | for his name.
00:31:25.820 | He says when that number is complete and your brothers and sisters join you, he says then
00:31:30.740 | those who will be killed, then he says the end will come.
00:31:37.740 | So there's a set number of ordained people who will be martyred for his name.
00:31:43.780 | So if you think about it, like all those people who are being martyred in the Middle East
00:31:46.820 | and North Korea and various parts, every single one of them, in a sense, is bringing out the
00:31:55.940 | closure of the end because they have all been ordained.
00:31:59.340 | When that number gets full, he said this is all going to be triggered and Christ is going
00:32:04.140 | to come.
00:32:05.140 | So it kind of gives us a different perspective of martyrs when you think of it that way,
00:32:10.660 | that God is absolutely sovereignly in control, even of all of this.
00:32:18.020 | And then the sixth seal begins with a great earthquake.
00:32:28.060 | So this great earthquake will be accompanied by the sun turning black like sackcloth made
00:32:36.240 | of goat hair and the whole moon turning blood to red and again it's a very devastating scene.
00:32:42.300 | But again this is not new to Revelation.
00:32:44.640 | It's mentioned in the book of Mark and in Matthew 24 where it talks about how the devastation
00:32:49.980 | is going to come and that is going to trigger the coming of Christ.
00:32:56.380 | And what's interesting is when this judgment comes and the Lamb of God comes, we typically
00:33:01.500 | when we think of the Lamb of God, we think of it from our perspective that this poor
00:33:07.260 | lamb that's been slain is going to come and he's going to rescue us and we're going to
00:33:11.300 | have a wedding party.
00:33:13.940 | But when the world sees the Lamb of God, what is their response?
00:33:21.620 | They run in terror.
00:33:24.520 | They don't see a poor helpless lamb.
00:33:26.540 | They say that they're going to see the wrath of the Lamb of God.
00:33:30.900 | And when they see the wrath of the Lamb of God, it says, "Then the kings of the earth,"
00:33:36.980 | verse 15, "and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful and everyone
00:33:42.060 | slave and free hid themselves in the caves among the rocks among the mountains, calling
00:33:46.680 | to the mountains and rocks, 'Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated
00:33:50.860 | on the throne and from the wrath of the coming Lamb.'"
00:33:54.820 | I think that part got cut off.
00:33:58.900 | Wrath of the Lamb of God.
00:34:02.620 | And we see that same scene in Malachi.
00:34:06.660 | In Malachi 3, 2-3, "They call to the mountains and rock, 'Fall on us and hide us from the
00:34:15.500 | face of him who is seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great
00:34:19.280 | day of the wrath has come, and who can stand?'"
00:34:24.060 | And this shouldn't really surprise us because we see the same scene in, remember, the book
00:34:27.460 | of Genesis when Adam and Eve, what was their first thing that they do when they recognize
00:34:32.620 | their sin?
00:34:34.620 | Remember?
00:34:36.500 | They hide, right?
00:34:38.960 | When they heard his footsteps, this very God that they had fellowship, intimate fellowship
00:34:42.700 | with, all of a sudden when sin enters, they hear his footsteps and they hide in terror
00:34:49.500 | because of their sin.
00:34:51.260 | So everyone whose sin has not been covered by the blood of Christ will see a wrathful
00:34:56.180 | God.
00:34:57.580 | The Lamb of God is going to come and it's going to be a terrifying scene.
00:35:03.140 | So again, when we think about the end times, and again, the question that we have to keep
00:35:09.460 | asking ourselves is, if this is true, and if I truly believe this, how would it affect
00:35:21.940 | you?
00:35:23.420 | How would it affect you to know that this is coming?
00:35:27.660 | And this is just the beginning of the birth pains.
00:35:29.780 | I mean, you talk about devastation, you wait until we get into the trumpet and we get into
00:35:35.100 | the bowls, right?
00:35:37.060 | This is just the beginning.
00:35:38.060 | This is what's going to spark and trigger all of that.
00:35:41.860 | So as we have time to take some time to discuss some of these questions or some of the things
00:35:48.420 | that we have, and again, I'm going to finish a little bit early and give you time to take
00:35:52.500 | some time to discuss with your small group.
00:35:56.180 | You know, we become so desensitized because you grow up in a church, you hear the gospel,
00:36:01.740 | and then you kind of assume that because we're in the church and we're doing church things,
00:36:06.220 | we're serving, we're giving.
00:36:08.260 | But the most important question that we should be asking, as I mentioned on Sunday, is everything
00:36:13.660 | that I'm reading, is this true and do you believe it?
00:36:19.060 | That's one thing to say, I know Jesus loves me, that when I die I'm going to go to heaven.
00:36:23.460 | It's one thing to say that and I believe that, but other than you receiving that, right?
00:36:29.700 | It doesn't really, other than like, I really want to worship him, which is great, that's
00:36:33.740 | what we should do.
00:36:35.460 | But when we hear about the judgment coming upon mankind and it doesn't move us at all,
00:36:41.500 | it doesn't move us at all, that this devastation is going to come, you know, some of these
00:36:44.900 | people that we love and care about, when he comes, they're not going to have the same
00:36:48.020 | response that we're going to give, you know, yes, he's coming.
00:36:51.500 | He said they're going to be so terrified by the wrath that's coming that they're going
00:36:57.300 | to be going up and trying to run from as far as they can and hoping that the rocks and
00:37:01.300 | the mountains would follow, just to hide them from his glory.
00:37:05.580 | And again, to think about that and then to just say, yeah, I believe it, and then to
00:37:13.060 | have it not affect you, we have to ask ourselves, like, do you really believe that?
00:37:19.020 | So I think that's the most important question that we need to keep asking ourselves.
00:37:23.620 | We read about these things, we're not just reading mythology.
00:37:27.860 | If we believe this, what does that mean?
00:37:32.740 | So the discussion questions.
00:37:48.340 | So the discussion question for you, do you think most people who claim to know the gospel
00:37:54.220 | know that the judgment is coming upon all men?
00:37:57.300 | How can you convey God's wrath just as clear as God's mercy when sharing the gospel?
00:38:01.500 | Because it is biblical, right?
00:38:03.560 | If you share the gospel or explain about the love of God without explaining why it's the
00:38:08.940 | love of God to save us from his wrath, right, then we haven't given the clear or the whole
00:38:14.500 | presentation of the gospel, right?
00:38:17.580 | Because before the gospel gives us invitation of salvation, they have to understand why
00:38:24.220 | they need salvation, for what they need salvation.
00:38:26.820 | And if they aren't saved, what is coming, right?
00:38:31.300 | So this is part of revelation.
00:38:34.200 | So how do we do that?
00:38:35.200 | How do we balance between sharing about the love of God and yet being clear about the
00:38:40.100 | wrath of God at the same time?
00:38:41.580 | Because I think we need to be motivated by both, right?
00:38:45.740 | We're not just motivated by love, we're also motivated by the coming judgment too.
00:38:50.660 | Number two, if we won't fully know the meaning behind these vision, what is the point of
00:38:56.100 | studying them?
00:38:57.100 | Why do you think God gave us something so important in seemingly obscure vision?
00:39:00.580 | So I asked them in the very beginning, so if you guys can take some time, right, to
00:39:04.860 | discuss that.
00:39:06.180 | So in God's wisdom, he gave us these visions in this manner for a reason.
00:39:11.300 | So take some time to discuss that as well.
00:39:13.260 | Number three, how does the study of the end times affect the way you walk with God?
00:39:16.660 | Do you think it is possible to genuinely believe that God's wrath is coming to mankind and
00:39:20.940 | not be compelled to warn others, right?
00:39:24.800 | Is it possible to say, "I have genuine faith," and yet be so complacent about the judgment
00:39:33.440 | of the non-Christian world?
00:39:36.520 | Can we say confidently that I have faith if that's the case?
00:39:39.560 | So again, take some time to discuss that in your group.
00:39:41.640 | So let me pray for us and then I'll let you guys go.
00:39:44.880 | Heavenly Father, we thank you for your word.
00:39:49.120 | Lord, there are so many things around us, Lord, that entangle us and cause us to constantly
00:39:55.080 | forget that this is not our home, that we are just sojourners, strangers passing through.
00:40:03.360 | We pray, Father God, that your word would continue to sober us, that our reality, the
00:40:08.840 | things that we hope for, things that we invest in, would be directly affected, Father God,
00:40:14.800 | by your word that we study, especially this book.
00:40:18.200 | I pray that it would have the effect on us that you've intended, that you would not just
00:40:23.200 | fulfill and satisfy our curiosity, but you would mold us, that you would shake us, challenge
00:40:30.040 | us, rebuke us, that we may live a life truly worthy of the gospel that you've given.
00:40:35.800 | So we pray for your grace.
00:40:36.880 | We pray, Lord God, that our discussion time would be fruitful, that we would be open and
00:40:41.500 | honest with each other, and that as iron sharpening iron, that we may be sharpened as a result.
00:40:46.440 | We thank you, in Jesus' name we pray, amen.