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2016-02-07 Christ, Past, Present, Future


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00:00:04.240 | --in India.
00:00:06.960 | The area that we went to India is not typically a place that--
00:00:10.760 | if somebody says they went to India for missions,
00:00:12.760 | this is not the typical place that they go to.
00:00:15.400 | Usually, they'll go to Delhi or Mumbai or maybe even Bangalore,
00:00:18.400 | but this is about five hours into the countryside.
00:00:21.080 | So the nearest airport of any kind, local or international,
00:00:25.000 | is about five hours' drive away.
00:00:27.920 | So I shared this with you last year
00:00:30.800 | when we were going in there.
00:00:33.120 | I didn't know a single Westerner or any foreigner
00:00:35.440 | that's been in that area.
00:00:36.520 | And so when I told this to my Southern Baptist friends,
00:00:39.960 | they were actually a little bit concerned.
00:00:41.680 | They'd been praying for us last year,
00:00:43.440 | and they prayed for us this year throughout the whole trip.
00:00:45.940 | So I was texting with my wife and a local pastor
00:00:50.280 | here because they were having prayer meetings for us
00:00:53.960 | throughout their meetings, and he wanted an update
00:00:56.240 | on what's going on.
00:00:57.360 | So going in this year, I thought I'd
00:01:00.040 | be a little bit less anxious because we have experience
00:01:02.880 | from last year.
00:01:03.520 | But to my surprise, I think all the things
00:01:07.040 | that I've been reading in the last year, the persecution
00:01:09.320 | going on, is concentrated up in North where we were not,
00:01:14.840 | but also in the Southern area.
00:01:16.600 | And in the Southern area, in that little strip
00:01:18.880 | where the heaviest concentration of unreached people groups
00:01:22.080 | are in that local area.
00:01:24.200 | And those pastors are actively pursuing
00:01:26.680 | to share the gospel.
00:01:28.200 | And so the reason why we made contact
00:01:31.280 | is because I met this pastor in one of the earlier trips
00:01:34.480 | that I went with other pastors to do pastoral training.
00:01:37.800 | And as I got to spend time with him,
00:01:40.680 | his English was good enough where
00:01:42.060 | he was sharing with me about his father's testimony.
00:01:44.880 | And again, the more I heard his father's testimony,
00:01:47.480 | it intrigued me.
00:01:48.160 | It's like, wow, there's people actually doing this.
00:01:50.520 | And I share this again.
00:01:51.760 | I'm not going to go too much into detail,
00:01:53.480 | but his father became a Christian,
00:01:55.080 | used to be a Hindu priest, and converted.
00:01:57.920 | And basically, he was shunned by his family,
00:01:59.760 | took his young children.
00:02:01.280 | At the time, he had two kids, a three-year-old
00:02:03.440 | and a one-year-old.
00:02:04.560 | Then eventually, he had two more kids.
00:02:06.440 | And basically, for the last 40 years,
00:02:07.980 | he's been traveling from village to village
00:02:09.840 | sharing the gospel.
00:02:11.160 | Last year, when I talked to him, he
00:02:12.480 | told me that there was a period when he was so depressed
00:02:15.360 | because he couldn't take care of his kids.
00:02:17.520 | And there were times when they would walk into villages,
00:02:19.920 | and people were hostile.
00:02:21.880 | They don't have time to walk back out.
00:02:23.720 | So a lot of times, they would just
00:02:25.220 | be sleeping out in the fields.
00:02:26.560 | And again, I heard this from the kids.
00:02:28.920 | They said they remember this when they were little kids, just
00:02:31.800 | walking into villages.
00:02:32.800 | And a lot of times, he didn't have enough food
00:02:35.600 | to feed their children.
00:02:37.040 | And he said there was a period when he was so depressed
00:02:39.440 | about it that he was thinking about taking his life.
00:02:42.320 | And he thought that maybe if he wasn't around,
00:02:45.480 | that his family would have an easier life.
00:02:47.200 | But because God so burdened him for the gospel,
00:02:50.080 | that he saw his family suffering.
00:02:52.480 | And so for the last 40 years, in the midst of all of this,
00:02:55.880 | he's been walking from village to village.
00:02:57.600 | And every testimony that we heard,
00:03:00.000 | eventually, it was linked to this pastor, this one pastor.
00:03:03.960 | He's in his mid-60s.
00:03:05.560 | And he said, oh, they came in and shared the gospel.
00:03:08.120 | And initially, I thought, what's this crazy guy doing?
00:03:10.760 | And then he was persistent.
00:03:13.400 | And so each one of them came to Christ.
00:03:15.520 | And now they have a network of 32 pastors.
00:03:19.440 | And they oversee about three churches.
00:03:21.760 | And they told me they have about 80 to 85 churches
00:03:24.360 | that they've planted.
00:03:25.720 | And I asked them, what is the size
00:03:28.920 | and how many members they have?
00:03:30.400 | And they have over about 2,000 people and growing.
00:03:33.320 | That if you put them all together--
00:03:34.760 | so each one of these churches have anywhere from 30
00:03:37.360 | to Pastor Matthew's church.
00:03:39.600 | That was the original one.
00:03:40.600 | It held over a couple hundred people in that one.
00:03:43.560 | And again, they're doing ministry.
00:03:46.000 | And they're in the midst of much persecution.
00:03:50.200 | When we first decided to go in, it was simply an opportunity.
00:03:53.240 | I was curious.
00:03:54.480 | And I knew the area that we were going into
00:03:56.520 | was maybe not safe, because they don't have
00:03:59.120 | a lot of foreigners in that area.
00:04:00.880 | But I felt like God opened the door,
00:04:03.240 | kind of like how we first got into China.
00:04:06.120 | God opened the door.
00:04:07.360 | And I thought, well, if God opened the door,
00:04:11.120 | let's go in and see what God's going to do.
00:04:13.200 | And that's kind of how we started out in India,
00:04:15.160 | wanting to go and check out the ministry.
00:04:17.640 | And that was last year.
00:04:19.540 | So last year, we kind of broke ground.
00:04:21.200 | I was a little bit nervous, because we didn't
00:04:23.160 | know where we were going.
00:04:24.360 | And I think every single one of us who went last year,
00:04:27.440 | that initial road to get to this place kind of, I think,
00:04:30.960 | surprised all of us.
00:04:31.840 | We knew we were going to the boonies,
00:04:33.380 | but this was literally the remotest part of the world.
00:04:36.120 | And we got there.
00:04:38.200 | We broke ground, spent some time with the pastor.
00:04:40.200 | We were all very encouraged.
00:04:42.600 | This year, for me, was a little bit different,
00:04:45.280 | because already, again, the ground was broken.
00:04:47.920 | Nothing that we did this year was new or surprising to me.
00:04:51.600 | And I know a few of the other people that went last year
00:04:54.820 | could say the same thing.
00:04:56.640 | The biggest difference for me this year versus last year
00:04:59.080 | was I felt like I made a lasting connection with these pastors.
00:05:04.640 | A lot of the same familiar faces,
00:05:06.580 | and being able to hear the testimonies,
00:05:09.400 | and spending time with them, that they're not just projects.
00:05:13.920 | They're not just people out in China.
00:05:15.840 | But they've really become friends.
00:05:17.960 | And so now the ministry in China is not simply
00:05:20.440 | that doors open, so we're going in.
00:05:22.440 | But it's become a lot more personal.
00:05:24.400 | So when I think about persecution in India,
00:05:26.280 | I'm not thinking about some random faces.
00:05:29.400 | I'm thinking specifically about these pastors.
00:05:32.760 | Pastor Saki, the guy that I had initial contact with,
00:05:36.120 | last year he kept us away from his little village,
00:05:39.800 | because-- well, it's not little.
00:05:41.440 | There's a lot of people there.
00:05:43.480 | Because last year, while we were there,
00:05:45.680 | the militant Hindus actually were
00:05:47.640 | getting organized to weed out Christians in his area.
00:05:51.120 | So when I asked him about his place, and he said,
00:05:53.800 | he deliberately tried to keep us away from there,
00:05:57.000 | because it wasn't safe at that time.
00:05:59.040 | So this year, when we got there, I
00:06:00.760 | asked him what's the first village we're going to.
00:06:02.840 | And he said he was going to take us to his hometown.
00:06:04.680 | And the first thing I thought was,
00:06:06.120 | I thought you didn't want us to go there last year.
00:06:08.680 | And he said, last year, specifically because they
00:06:11.840 | were having that meeting.
00:06:12.920 | And it's still not safe, but they just
00:06:16.680 | weren't having that meeting this year.
00:06:18.400 | And so we were able to go to his village.
00:06:20.100 | We were able to go and visit his home.
00:06:22.920 | And he told us that in that particular area where he lives,
00:06:27.600 | the hostility toward Christians is concentrated.
00:06:30.360 | And he told us that that area, they
00:06:35.440 | can't walk around with Bibles in their hands,
00:06:37.320 | because once they're identified as Christians,
00:06:39.240 | they get targeted.
00:06:40.400 | So they have to kind of stay low.
00:06:42.040 | And then what really was heartbreaking
00:06:43.720 | was he told us about what it's like for their children.
00:06:46.760 | And he said that he has one daughter.
00:06:48.480 | And he said that when he goes to school,
00:06:50.880 | sometimes to win over their friends because
00:06:53.000 | of the hostility, he said he gave candy or chocolate
00:06:56.520 | to pass out to their friends.
00:06:58.080 | And some of the friends told him that their parents said,
00:07:01.160 | don't even receive chocolate from these Christians.
00:07:03.320 | We don't want anything to do with them.
00:07:05.080 | And so they have Hindu friends, but they
00:07:06.680 | would try to go over to their friend's house.
00:07:08.320 | And the parents won't allow them to come into the house.
00:07:10.660 | So he has to stay outside while their Hindu friends go in
00:07:13.840 | and out of their homes.
00:07:15.080 | And saying that is very, very difficult.
00:07:16.760 | And he told me that his wife understands
00:07:20.380 | because she's an adult. But he said the hardest part of it
00:07:23.360 | is his daughter.
00:07:25.040 | He's away from home a lot because he's
00:07:27.040 | going to village to village.
00:07:28.160 | And those of you who've been there before,
00:07:30.040 | you know that going to village is not like here,
00:07:32.040 | where you just hop in a car, go, and then come back.
00:07:34.400 | Making a commitment to go there is either all day
00:07:36.880 | or sometimes several day commitment to go and come back.
00:07:39.680 | And so oftentimes, he's not there.
00:07:42.340 | And financially, there's no support.
00:07:44.100 | So his wife has to work at night to get some support.
00:07:47.500 | And they're barely surviving with that.
00:07:49.740 | But in the midst of all of this, they're spreading the gospel.
00:07:53.720 | People are coming to Christ.
00:07:55.720 | They're having a hard time feeding their kids.
00:07:57.620 | But they're committed to the gospel cause.
00:07:59.780 | Pastor Matthew has full-blown diabetes,
00:08:02.480 | but he doesn't have enough money for medication.
00:08:04.720 | So obviously, we gave him some so that he can buy medication.
00:08:07.780 | But despite all of that, he's still
00:08:09.520 | going from village to village, even now, sharing the gospel.
00:08:12.680 | Oftentimes, people talk about how you had a heart for India,
00:08:18.320 | or you had a heart for China.
00:08:19.720 | And all of that is great.
00:08:21.240 | And it's great that God gives us heart for certain things.
00:08:24.720 | But the Great Commission is not a theology to be studied.
00:08:28.400 | It is a commandment to be obeyed.
00:08:31.320 | We don't wait for God to stir our hearts to obey.
00:08:35.280 | Obedience is something we do, whether we
00:08:37.400 | feel like it or not.
00:08:39.120 | A lot of times, our heart doesn't
00:08:40.640 | follow because we're not obeying.
00:08:43.720 | God will give you the heart when you obey, not before you obey.
00:08:47.680 | And there are times when God will stir you up
00:08:49.760 | to give you the energy to go before you go.
00:08:52.400 | But oftentimes, the heart and compassion--
00:08:55.440 | people say that all the time.
00:08:56.960 | How do we pray for people that we don't know?
00:08:59.680 | How do we have compassion for people we don't know?
00:09:02.280 | Well, get to know them.
00:09:04.480 | Get to know them.
00:09:05.320 | And God will give you a heart.
00:09:07.520 | The Great Commission is vital in our personal relationship
00:09:12.080 | with God.
00:09:13.000 | It's not like God saved you.
00:09:14.360 | Now you have a personal relationship.
00:09:15.920 | And here is all these other things that I should be doing.
00:09:19.080 | And if I don't, it doesn't really matter that much.
00:09:22.600 | We don't realize in the West how intimately
00:09:27.040 | the Great Commission is directly linked
00:09:29.320 | to your personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
00:09:33.400 | The Great Commission is linked to following Jesus.
00:09:38.320 | Typically, when we say--
00:09:39.960 | we all say we're followers of Jesus Christ,
00:09:42.040 | followers of Jesus Christ.
00:09:44.120 | If I asked you to follow me, just follow me,
00:09:50.280 | what's the first thing that you're going to ask me?
00:09:52.440 | Where are you going?
00:09:57.480 | That's what you're going to ask, right?
00:09:59.640 | Unless you're like, OK, where do I go?
00:10:03.960 | The first thing you're going to ask is, where are you going?
00:10:07.040 | When Jesus called his disciples to follow him,
00:10:09.880 | he specifically said, I will make you fishers of men.
00:10:14.320 | The scripture says in Luke 19.10,
00:10:15.920 | "For the Son of Man came to seek and save the lost."
00:10:19.240 | That's where he's going.
00:10:20.360 | He's going to the lost to save them.
00:10:22.920 | 1 Timothy 1.15, it says, "It is a trustworthy statement
00:10:25.720 | deserving full acceptance that Christ Jesus came into the world
00:10:29.080 | to save sinners, among whom I am the foremost."
00:10:33.720 | That this is who Jesus is.
00:10:35.720 | This is what he came to do.
00:10:37.440 | And this is why he called the disciples.
00:10:40.160 | This is not new in the New Testament.
00:10:42.120 | We see it all over the Old Testament.
00:10:43.660 | Ezekiel 34.16, "The Lord says to the nation of Israel,
00:10:46.800 | I will seek the lost.
00:10:47.880 | I will bring back the strayed.
00:10:49.640 | I will bind up the injured.
00:10:51.400 | And I will strengthen the weak."
00:10:54.600 | See, for a Christian, the Great Commission is not an option.
00:10:59.060 | If we follow Jesus, meaning if we are genuinely
00:11:03.280 | following Jesus, we have to be going where he is going.
00:11:08.240 | We have to be doing what he is doing.
00:11:11.160 | We cannot say with any kind of consistency
00:11:15.560 | that we are followers of Jesus
00:11:17.280 | if we're not following where he is going.
00:11:20.000 | That's why Apostle Paul says in 1 Corinthians 9.16,
00:11:23.000 | "Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel."
00:11:26.160 | Woe to me.
00:11:27.660 | Because preaching the gospel is directly linked
00:11:30.320 | to his relationship with Jesus Christ.
00:11:33.240 | You know the Great Commission, the last commandment,
00:11:35.880 | the Great Commission that Jesus gave to his disciples.
00:11:39.120 | He says, "All authority in heaven and earth
00:11:40.800 | has been given to me.
00:11:41.640 | Therefore, go make disciples."
00:11:43.880 | And he concludes the Great Commission by saying,
00:11:45.660 | "Lo, I am with you to the end of the age."
00:11:48.960 | His promise to be with us is linked to the Great Commission.
00:11:53.680 | He didn't simply say, "I'm gonna be with you
00:11:55.840 | because raising children is difficult.
00:11:58.320 | I'm gonna be with you because it's lonely
00:12:00.420 | living in this fallen world."
00:12:02.140 | He said, "I'm gonna be with you,"
00:12:04.260 | one, in the context of sharing the gospel,
00:12:06.980 | taking the gospel to the remotest part of the world,
00:12:09.460 | to the light into darkness.
00:12:11.140 | He said, "Do not fear when persecution come
00:12:13.940 | because I will be with you."
00:12:16.540 | He was not in the context of comforting
00:12:19.500 | the natural difficulties of living
00:12:21.380 | in a sinful and fallen world.
00:12:23.780 | Not that our God doesn't care about that.
00:12:26.240 | Not that God doesn't give us comfort for those things.
00:12:31.160 | But his primary promise of his presence in our lives,
00:12:36.120 | to be courageous because I will be with you.
00:12:39.840 | For a Christian who is disengaged with the Great Commission
00:12:43.640 | cannot understand the comfort of his presence in our lives.
00:12:50.720 | In, Paul says, in Romans 1, 14 to 15,
00:12:53.800 | "I am under obligation both to the Greeks
00:12:59.200 | and to the barbarians, and both to the wise
00:13:01.440 | and to the foolish."
00:13:03.160 | We have a tendency, again, in our generation,
00:13:05.880 | you know, whenever something becomes difficult,
00:13:09.180 | we have a tendency to change our theology.
00:13:12.720 | That when the challenge of living a Christian life
00:13:15.200 | becomes too difficult, the easiest thing to do
00:13:17.960 | is to change our theology to accommodate
00:13:20.520 | whatever life that we choose.
00:13:22.800 | Following Christ is too difficult.
00:13:24.280 | The cross is too hard.
00:13:25.840 | The commandments are too burdensome.
00:13:27.960 | So we shift our theology and make it easier.
00:13:31.480 | But see, Apostle Paul talked about preaching the gospel
00:13:35.400 | as an obligation.
00:13:37.520 | And we have a tendency to think that any talk
00:13:39.880 | of obligation is legalism.
00:13:42.760 | And we have to take that obligation.
00:13:44.200 | No, we have to be compelled.
00:13:46.240 | Paul here says, "I am obligated by the gospel
00:13:49.680 | of Jesus Christ to preach to Greeks and barbarians."
00:13:52.280 | But immediately, when we think of obligation,
00:13:55.000 | we think of drudgery.
00:13:56.200 | We think of doing something we don't want to do.
00:13:59.200 | But Paul says in verse 15, "So because of this obligation,
00:14:02.920 | I am eager to preach the gospel to you also
00:14:05.840 | who are in Rome."
00:14:07.760 | Some of the greatest joys in our life
00:14:10.280 | comes along with it, the greatest obligation.
00:14:14.000 | Every parent in this room, the greatest burden
00:14:18.080 | in your life are your children.
00:14:20.400 | Because they take the most time.
00:14:22.800 | They require the most money.
00:14:24.760 | They take whatever leisure time you have
00:14:27.000 | and they suck the life out of you, right?
00:14:29.880 | The greatest obligation in your life is your children.
00:14:32.200 | There's nothing more important, not your work,
00:14:34.200 | not even your own health, than your own kids.
00:14:36.680 | You are obligated to your children.
00:14:39.200 | But ask any parent in the room, what is the greatest joy?
00:14:42.800 | It's also their children.
00:14:44.920 | The greatest satisfaction, the greatest joy
00:14:47.520 | comes also from their kids.
00:14:50.000 | See, obligation and joy are not two exclusive things.
00:14:53.920 | The scripture says in Psalm 34, seven,
00:14:57.000 | "Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you
00:14:59.360 | the desires of your heart."
00:15:01.440 | That when Christ becomes our delight,
00:15:04.520 | our satisfaction, our joy also comes with him.
00:15:08.400 | The greatest desire and the greatest joy
00:15:12.600 | comes with the greatest obligation.
00:15:15.360 | There is no obligation greater
00:15:17.920 | than preaching the gospel to the lost.
00:15:20.840 | There's no greater obligation.
00:15:22.760 | And that is not something that you have
00:15:24.680 | to even read the scripture to say.
00:15:27.520 | I don't have to exposit a text,
00:15:29.160 | and I don't have to go through
00:15:30.440 | the meta-narrative of scripture.
00:15:32.480 | All we have to do is have common sense.
00:15:36.360 | If you have the only cure for a lost world
00:15:40.640 | in their dark sin, if you know that if they die,
00:15:45.200 | that there's judgment waiting for them,
00:15:47.160 | and you know the only answer is Jesus Christ,
00:15:50.160 | you don't need exposition of scripture
00:15:51.880 | to tell you that that is our obligation.
00:15:55.000 | It is our obligation to have the gospel.
00:15:58.040 | It is the obligation of every Christian
00:15:59.920 | that knows and confesses this truth.
00:16:02.160 | And yet the scripture clearly says
00:16:06.680 | that this is the greatest and the most wonderful commandment.
00:16:10.800 | Ask anybody who's ever experienced
00:16:13.340 | and truly given their life for this cause
00:16:16.560 | where the source of greatest joy is.
00:16:18.940 | It's in seeing people come to Christ
00:16:22.560 | that we were able to spend even just a week purposefully.
00:16:27.380 | Because let's be honest,
00:16:31.160 | how many weeks can you think of in 2015
00:16:33.540 | that you were absolutely spent doing God's work?
00:16:37.000 | I mean, maybe bits and pieces here.
00:16:39.280 | So every single one of us on this trip,
00:16:41.720 | and again, I know many of you have experienced
00:16:43.740 | the same thing in different trips,
00:16:45.760 | that's a whole week's worth of our time, energy, and money
00:16:50.240 | was spent in a strange place, people we've never met,
00:16:54.380 | maybe possibly risking some persecution,
00:16:58.240 | but at the end of the day, fully satisfied, fully joyful,
00:17:03.240 | because God was able to use us
00:17:06.860 | in a small way to preach the gospel.
00:17:10.560 | See, our greatest joy also comes from our greatest obligation
00:17:15.360 | and if you continue to neglect your obligation,
00:17:18.440 | you also continue to push away the greatest source of joy
00:17:21.760 | that God has placed in your life.
00:17:23.520 | Our personal relationship with the Holy Spirit
00:17:27.240 | is directly linked to the Great Commission.
00:17:30.280 | Every once in a while, somebody will come in and say,
00:17:31.920 | "Oh, you know, this church is all about the Bible,
00:17:33.740 | "but it's not about the Holy Spirit."
00:17:36.000 | And when they say that, what they're saying is
00:17:38.520 | they want more emotion, they wanna see some people
00:17:41.320 | dancing on the aisle, they want people raising hands
00:17:43.800 | and crying during worship, and I have nothing against that.
00:17:47.560 | If you wanna dance, dance quietly in the back,
00:17:50.160 | you know, like, I have nothing against that, right?
00:17:52.400 | Don't distract us, right?
00:17:54.960 | You wanna raise your hand, you wanna weep,
00:17:57.360 | you know, while you're praising God, awesome!
00:18:00.400 | We should be emotional in our worship toward God.
00:18:03.660 | But the primary role of the Holy Spirit
00:18:06.080 | is linked to the Great Commission.
00:18:08.920 | In Acts chapter one, six through eight,
00:18:10.720 | and you know that passage in verse eight when he says,
00:18:12.840 | "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit
00:18:14.400 | "comes upon you, you will be my witnesses."
00:18:17.200 | You will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria,
00:18:19.680 | to the remotest part of the world.
00:18:21.680 | But prior to him making that commandment,
00:18:24.480 | the disciples were stuck on,
00:18:26.520 | are you now going to restore the kingdom to Israel?
00:18:30.440 | That was the question, because that's what they were
00:18:32.620 | focused on before he went to the cross, remember?
00:18:35.640 | He said, "When the kingdom comes, can you let us sit
00:18:37.560 | "on the left or to the right?
00:18:38.480 | "Who's gonna be the greatest when the kingdom comes?"
00:18:40.440 | And that's what they were focused on,
00:18:42.040 | because all of the prophets,
00:18:44.200 | even in the midst of all the judgment,
00:18:46.720 | always ends and always reminds us
00:18:49.320 | that even though judgment is coming,
00:18:50.800 | God will restore one day the kingdom.
00:18:53.760 | So this is what they were fixated on.
00:18:55.920 | And then even after Jesus was resurrected,
00:18:57.840 | that's what they were fixated, is it now?
00:18:59.960 | We thought it was gonna happen before the cross,
00:19:01.800 | and we didn't understand where the cross fit into this,
00:19:03.960 | but now we see that even in death, they cannot contain you.
00:19:08.280 | So now, is it now are you gonna restore the kingdom?
00:19:11.080 | And Jesus says to them, "It is not for you to know
00:19:13.480 | "times or the seasons that the Father has fixed
00:19:15.600 | "by his own authority."
00:19:17.880 | Whenever we look at this text,
00:19:19.160 | we always kinda get caught up in,
00:19:20.720 | it's like, oh, the end times,
00:19:21.680 | we're not gonna know about the end times.
00:19:23.240 | Let's not calculate the end times.
00:19:25.660 | There's a much more practical application
00:19:27.800 | to what Jesus is saying here,
00:19:29.680 | than you're not gonna know the specific time or the hour.
00:19:33.080 | The practical thing that Jesus is saying is,
00:19:35.160 | you're focused on making this kingdom your home.
00:19:40.000 | You're focused, because that's what we're all focused on.
00:19:43.080 | Your focus is, is it now you're gonna restore the kingdom?
00:19:45.720 | We've been waiting for this for hundreds and hundreds
00:19:48.120 | of years, is it now are you going to bring this kingdom
00:19:51.040 | that we've been waiting for?
00:19:52.160 | And Jesus basically is saying,
00:19:54.840 | it's not for you to think about that now.
00:19:56.880 | Now is the time for the great commission.
00:20:00.880 | That time will come one day,
00:20:02.920 | when Christ comes and he restores his kingdom,
00:20:07.360 | and he glorifies us, and redeems his church finally
00:20:10.040 | in glorification, but now is not the time
00:20:12.680 | for you to be thinking about that.
00:20:14.640 | Now is the time for the great commission.
00:20:18.240 | And you will be my witnesses when the Holy Spirit comes.
00:20:22.020 | See, the whole purpose of the Holy Spirit
00:20:25.560 | is not simply comfort us because life is difficult.
00:20:29.120 | Although he does do that.
00:20:31.400 | The whole point of the Holy Spirit is not so that
00:20:33.160 | we can become emotional when we sing.
00:20:36.160 | Although that is a big benefit of the movement
00:20:38.200 | of the Holy Spirit.
00:20:39.920 | The primary purpose of the Holy Spirit is to empower us
00:20:44.060 | for the great commission.
00:20:45.320 | John 15, 26, but when the helper, the Holy Spirit comes,
00:20:49.840 | whom I will send to you from the Father,
00:20:52.400 | Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father,
00:20:54.560 | he will bear witness about me.
00:20:57.660 | Because the disciples were afraid.
00:20:59.920 | Their situation was much worse than even the pastors
00:21:02.800 | who were preaching the gospel in the villages.
00:21:04.880 | Persecution was real.
00:21:06.800 | Taking the gospel to the areas where hostility,
00:21:10.040 | where people are gonna be stoned, and literally going to die,
00:21:14.200 | he says, don't worry, the Holy Spirit is going to be
00:21:16.320 | with you, and he will bear witness about me.
00:21:18.560 | I am not sending you on your own.
00:21:21.120 | Again, in John 16, eight, he says, when he comes,
00:21:23.960 | the Holy Spirit, he will convict the world concerning sin,
00:21:27.040 | righteousness, and judgment.
00:21:28.800 | So when we talk about engaging the Holy Spirit,
00:21:33.000 | we're not simply talking about emotionalism,
00:21:36.920 | we're not simply talking about some mystical inner working
00:21:40.160 | of emotions and power, we're talking about the power
00:21:43.760 | to preach the gospel with effectiveness
00:21:46.080 | is directly linked to the Holy Spirit.
00:21:48.080 | So if we're not engaged in the work of the gospel ministry,
00:21:54.480 | in proclaiming the gospel, the Great Commission,
00:21:58.080 | you cannot be engaged in the Holy Spirit.
00:21:59.520 | It doesn't matter how emotional you get in the service.
00:22:03.160 | It doesn't matter how passionate you feel inwardly,
00:22:06.200 | because the primary purpose of the Holy Spirit
00:22:08.520 | is to move you forward with the gospel of Jesus Christ.
00:22:11.980 | Not only is it linked to, directly linked to our relationship
00:22:16.640 | with Jesus, directly linked to the work of the Holy Spirit,
00:22:20.120 | proclaiming of the gospel, the Great Commission,
00:22:23.200 | is directly linked to our fellowship.
00:22:25.560 | Every time Christians get together, it isn't fellowship,
00:22:30.160 | especially in our generation, right?
00:22:33.840 | Fellowship, again, has become just a place
00:22:37.160 | where Christians by name have come together
00:22:40.800 | and we talk about whatever we talk about,
00:22:43.940 | do whatever we do, as long as we're Christians,
00:22:45.880 | we have fellowship.
00:22:46.840 | That's not what the word means.
00:22:48.720 | The typical word that's translated, kononia,
00:22:51.160 | literal translation means to partner together.
00:22:54.160 | So again, if I say let's partner together, right,
00:22:57.560 | what are you gonna ask me?
00:22:59.960 | For what?
00:23:00.960 | If fellowship means partnering,
00:23:03.720 | what are we partnering together for?
00:23:06.400 | It's pretty obvious.
00:23:08.720 | Paul uses that term in the book of Philippians
00:23:11.720 | as partnering financially.
00:23:13.720 | He calls his fellow workers of the gospel
00:23:17.400 | partners in the name of Jesus Christ.
00:23:20.840 | Partnering and fellowship go hand in hand.
00:23:25.040 | So much frustration in the church happens
00:23:26.800 | because people are staggering from church to church,
00:23:29.120 | looking for like-minded, right?
00:23:32.400 | When we say like-minded,
00:23:33.480 | we're talking about similar personalities,
00:23:36.300 | similar interest in movies, similar interest in travel,
00:23:40.480 | your background, language, age, culture,
00:23:43.960 | but it's so superficial in the church.
00:23:48.600 | I know yesterday they had football.
00:23:51.560 | You know, the men had football,
00:23:52.600 | and I think the women's football tournament
00:23:53.960 | is coming up pretty soon,
00:23:54.920 | and you know, there's some,
00:23:56.400 | I don't know how the oldest member of the football team is,
00:23:59.380 | but from what I hear, probably late 30s, right?
00:24:03.440 | I don't think anybody 40 and over
00:24:05.240 | in the right mind would have done that.
00:24:07.640 | But late 30s, and I know as young as 18, right?
00:24:12.640 | As young as 18 to 38-year-old.
00:24:15.480 | Got together and played football for this competition.
00:24:19.200 | I didn't hear one time the older guy say,
00:24:22.920 | "I couldn't connect with these guys."
00:24:24.920 | You know?
00:24:25.760 | "I couldn't connect with them
00:24:26.680 | "because there's nobody my age here.
00:24:28.720 | "I want to be in the defensive line with guys my age."
00:24:33.300 | I didn't hear any 18-year-old saying,
00:24:35.260 | "I can't play with these old guys.
00:24:36.500 | "What do I have in common with these guys?
00:24:38.980 | "They don't understand me."
00:24:41.120 | You know, they're too advanced in their stage in life.
00:24:46.000 | Nobody says that because the goal of this game is to win.
00:24:50.320 | And so whoever you are partnering with for this game
00:24:53.680 | are your brothers and are your sisters.
00:24:56.440 | Because what brings them together is not age,
00:24:58.320 | it's not language, it's not culture.
00:24:59.880 | It's this goal.
00:25:01.480 | You're partnering together.
00:25:03.280 | See, true fellowship in the church
00:25:05.000 | has nothing to do with your background as a human being.
00:25:09.600 | In fact, the beauty of the church is
00:25:12.360 | people who would never spend time together
00:25:15.680 | outside if it wasn't for Christ.
00:25:18.440 | Why would somebody in their 60s
00:25:20.040 | hang out with somebody in their teens?
00:25:22.400 | Why would somebody from this culture
00:25:24.200 | hang out with this person in that culture?
00:25:25.920 | Why would somebody from that economic status
00:25:28.040 | spend all their time with people in this economic status?
00:25:31.400 | Early church was filled with slave owners,
00:25:35.040 | with former slaves, Pharisees, and tax collectors.
00:25:38.980 | The young and the old.
00:25:40.720 | Sometimes they didn't even speak the same language,
00:25:42.700 | they were in the same church.
00:25:44.520 | But that was the beauty of the early church.
00:25:47.280 | What brought them together was the gospel of Jesus Christ
00:25:51.360 | and the proclamation of this same gospel.
00:25:54.960 | Fellowship happens in the context of partnering together
00:25:58.680 | for the Great Commission, it happens.
00:26:01.200 | You know that short time that we were there out in India,
00:26:04.060 | you know, just the ride alone,
00:26:06.080 | like to me the hardest part of any mission trip
00:26:08.160 | is the plane ride there and plane ride back.
00:26:10.360 | You know, the five hours in the bus
00:26:13.440 | isn't as bad because it's five hours.
00:26:15.240 | Well this is 16 hours of one flight
00:26:17.960 | and then resting and another three and a half hours going.
00:26:20.360 | And every year I get older it gets harder and harder.
00:26:23.600 | You know, and even the younger members of our team,
00:26:27.560 | I mean going out, we didn't go to a comfortable place.
00:26:29.380 | Our hotel was nice, right,
00:26:31.200 | comparably to everything else out there.
00:26:34.080 | The food was decent, right.
00:26:37.400 | For some people, I'm not really into Indian food, right.
00:26:41.920 | I've had enough Indian food for the rest of the year.
00:26:44.720 | I'll save that for next year, right.
00:26:46.800 | But fellowship happens in that context.
00:26:52.200 | Even while we're goofing around,
00:26:53.600 | even while we're having fun, at the end of the day,
00:26:55.960 | because all our mind and attention,
00:26:57.800 | our energy is spent toward the same thing.
00:27:00.640 | And at the end of the day, we don't have to force,
00:27:02.740 | like hey, let's talk about Jesus today.
00:27:05.160 | Because we were laboring for the same thing.
00:27:07.800 | We're all tired at the end of the day doing the same thing.
00:27:11.080 | And if there's any frustration,
00:27:12.400 | it's frustration in the same thing.
00:27:15.280 | And so when we get together, fellowship happens.
00:27:18.320 | But when you have a group of people
00:27:19.600 | who are not laboring toward the same thing
00:27:21.360 | and trying very hard to connect,
00:27:23.420 | you have to be, I want somebody my age,
00:27:25.840 | from my background, with that many kids,
00:27:28.200 | and you know, with this kind of struggle,
00:27:30.600 | with this kind of, oh, I can relate to that person
00:27:32.760 | because we're in the exact same place in life, right?
00:27:36.640 | And until we find that person or that group,
00:27:41.280 | we don't experience fellowship.
00:27:44.040 | That's not fellowship.
00:27:46.620 | You're looking for friends.
00:27:48.000 | And that's no different than the rest of the world,
00:27:50.060 | staggering from place to place,
00:27:51.640 | looking for a friendship that I can connect with,
00:27:53.920 | somebody exactly like me, looks like me, smells like me.
00:27:56.800 | Right?
00:27:57.640 | Maybe not smells like me, but you know.
00:28:03.000 | Somebody exactly like me.
00:28:04.540 | And then we get frustrated when it doesn't happen.
00:28:08.280 | Fellowship that is promised in scripture
00:28:12.080 | has nothing to do with how old you are,
00:28:15.800 | your language, your culture, your background,
00:28:18.460 | stage in life has nothing to do with that.
00:28:20.520 | Fellowship in the church is when people
00:28:23.720 | who are committed to the cause of Christ
00:28:26.720 | simply are laboring together.
00:28:28.400 | I find encouragement, you know,
00:28:31.400 | most of the team are a lot younger than I am,
00:28:34.400 | but just being with them, you know,
00:28:36.880 | 'cause they're sacrificing.
00:28:38.200 | And I was encouraged by every single one of them, you know.
00:28:41.200 | I was the, what do you call it?
00:28:44.680 | Slaggard, sluggard in this group?
00:28:48.560 | I usually am because they all have particular work to do
00:28:51.680 | and I don't have a specific assignment.
00:28:53.160 | All my work happens before I go.
00:28:55.160 | And then when I go there, my work is to make sure
00:28:57.280 | that they're doing their work, you know.
00:29:00.760 | But I'm encouraged by every single one of them.
00:29:02.280 | Our VBS team, you know, they were out in the sun
00:29:04.560 | for three hours, four hours at a time,
00:29:07.280 | didn't take a break at all.
00:29:09.360 | Then there's certain things happens
00:29:10.840 | that we can't share with you.
00:29:12.240 | Certain videos that we, what's it?
00:29:16.280 | So some people, no, okay.
00:29:18.860 | I can't go any further than that
00:29:19.920 | because what happens in India stays in India.
00:29:22.640 | (audience laughing)
00:29:25.640 | But fellowship happens in the context
00:29:28.660 | of partnering together for the gospel.
00:29:31.240 | You take that great commission out
00:29:32.640 | and you try to artificially create this, like,
00:29:34.960 | connection with one another.
00:29:36.520 | That's no different than anything in the world, right?
00:29:40.840 | Any little comment, any little difference,
00:29:43.040 | any little insensitive thing that's said,
00:29:44.600 | all of it, that's enough to break off, break that off.
00:29:47.280 | Right?
00:29:48.120 | It's so, any friendship outside of Christ is so fragile.
00:29:51.080 | But it's in the context of partnering together
00:29:54.320 | and that's why the gospel and the church fellowship,
00:29:57.420 | it's directly linked.
00:29:59.200 | And let me tell you right now,
00:30:00.760 | if you feel disconnected because,
00:30:06.200 | for whatever the reason,
00:30:07.280 | and you're not partnering in the gospel,
00:30:09.840 | it could be other reasons, but maybe the primary reason
00:30:13.360 | is because you're not partnering together
00:30:15.720 | in the gospel ministry.
00:30:17.060 | The great commission affects our prayer life.
00:30:21.580 | The call to pray is directly linked to the great commission.
00:30:26.640 | Colossians 4, two to four, it says,
00:30:27.900 | "Continue steadfastly in prayer,
00:30:29.500 | "being watchful in it with thanksgiving.
00:30:31.440 | "At the same time, pray also for us
00:30:33.200 | "that God may open the door for the word,
00:30:35.480 | "to declare the mystery of Christ
00:30:36.760 | "on account of which I am in prison,
00:30:38.100 | "that I may make it clear which is how I ought to speak."
00:30:41.460 | Think about the content of our prayer.
00:30:44.320 | And if it is any different than a Buddhist prayer,
00:30:48.140 | or if it is any different than somebody who worships idols,
00:30:53.160 | because if you listen carefully to their prayers,
00:30:55.740 | they pray for safety, just like we do.
00:30:58.960 | They pray that their God would help their crops to grow,
00:31:03.460 | so that they can have a nice life.
00:31:06.960 | When they get sick, they take offerings
00:31:09.620 | to whatever idol that they worship,
00:31:11.400 | and they drop some stuff in there,
00:31:13.040 | hoping that that will cure the problem.
00:31:15.500 | See, what makes a Christian prayer
00:31:19.600 | different than a prayer of the Buddhists and the Hindus
00:31:23.600 | is the content of our prayer.
00:31:26.540 | Our prayer is not to bring this kingdom.
00:31:28.460 | He said, "It is not for you to worry about that now,
00:31:31.460 | "because time will come.
00:31:32.420 | "When the fullness of time has come,
00:31:34.020 | "God is going to reveal His glory,
00:31:36.840 | "and you will be glorified with Him when He comes in glory.
00:31:39.200 | "But until then, it is not time for you
00:31:41.360 | "to worry about that now.
00:31:42.660 | "You will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you."
00:31:46.700 | So therefore, even in our prayers,
00:31:48.960 | what causes us to be urgent in our prayers
00:31:51.360 | is the Great Commission.
00:31:53.580 | Is when we are laboring and praying
00:31:55.940 | for the gospel to be spread.
00:31:58.420 | That's something that you and I cannot do.
00:32:01.400 | I can pay bills without praying.
00:32:03.740 | I can get a job in promotion without praying.
00:32:08.220 | Work harder, stop being lazy.
00:32:09.740 | Don't make trouble at work.
00:32:12.300 | Read and get educated.
00:32:14.980 | I could, we know all the information,
00:32:19.540 | but the primary reason why we have to pray,
00:32:22.380 | why prayer becomes urgent,
00:32:24.500 | is when we're in the context of battle.
00:32:27.560 | And I love what John Piper says about this in prayer.
00:32:32.380 | He says, "Prayer primarily is not an intercom
00:32:35.060 | "to share our thoughts with one another,
00:32:37.060 | "but it is like a walkie-talkie in a time of war.
00:32:40.640 | "There's somebody in the front line
00:32:41.900 | "is communicating with their commanding officer
00:32:43.840 | "back and forth, what should we do?"
00:32:46.260 | And so if we're not engaged in the Great Commission,
00:32:48.980 | it just becomes an intercom.
00:32:50.300 | It just becomes texting,
00:32:51.460 | and how you doing, what's going on?
00:32:54.020 | And eventually it gets old, and there's no urgency.
00:32:56.580 | See, our prayer life is directly linked
00:32:59.820 | to the Great Commission.
00:33:00.660 | 2 Thessalonians 3.10, "Finally, brothers,
00:33:02.220 | "pray for us that the word of the Lord
00:33:03.940 | "may speed ahead and be honored as happened among you."
00:33:07.920 | The very purpose of our prayer
00:33:10.900 | is directly linked to the Great Commission.
00:33:13.500 | Purpose of the church.
00:33:14.420 | In Matthew 16.18, Jesus says,
00:33:16.480 | "In the inauguration of the church,
00:33:18.160 | "I tell you, Peter, and on this rock,
00:33:19.680 | "I will build my church, and the gates of hell
00:33:21.980 | "shall not prevail against it."
00:33:23.940 | If you notice the way he says that,
00:33:25.820 | he's not saying that he's going to build a fortress
00:33:28.860 | that hell cannot penetrate.
00:33:30.980 | What he says is, the gates of hell
00:33:33.260 | cannot withstand the church.
00:33:37.700 | So who's on the defense?
00:33:39.300 | Not the church.
00:33:42.100 | He didn't say, "I'm gonna build a church,
00:33:43.380 | "and I'm gonna create this fortress,
00:33:44.820 | "and I'm gonna protect everyone inside the church."
00:33:47.040 | He didn't say that.
00:33:48.220 | He said, "I'm gonna build this church,
00:33:49.980 | "and the gates of Hades, hell,
00:33:52.160 | "we're not gonna be able to withstand
00:33:54.180 | "the coming of the light."
00:33:55.960 | One of my favorite quotes from Torrey Tamboon.
00:33:59.500 | And I've quoted this so many times,
00:34:01.880 | but one of my favorite quotes,
00:34:03.080 | "There's no darkness that Satan can create
00:34:05.140 | "that the love of God cannot penetrate."
00:34:07.960 | That's exactly what Jesus was saying.
00:34:10.920 | There is no darkness in the world
00:34:13.360 | that the gospel cannot penetrate.
00:34:14.620 | And when we go to India,
00:34:15.960 | that's a living testimony of that.
00:34:18.320 | Out in a place where Hinduism
00:34:20.840 | has been around for thousands of years,
00:34:23.800 | where people are literally being killed
00:34:26.440 | in sharing the gospel,
00:34:28.000 | and people are coming to Christ.
00:34:30.320 | I was just thinking,
00:34:31.160 | while the last day we were running VBS,
00:34:34.840 | a bunch of kids coming around,
00:34:36.080 | and because they're so poor,
00:34:37.400 | anything free, they get in line.
00:34:39.920 | And so they were passing out little bracelets
00:34:41.800 | with different colors to share the gospel.
00:34:44.240 | And not only the children,
00:34:45.720 | but all the parents were coming,
00:34:47.200 | and they said, "We want one, we want one."
00:34:48.680 | So I was thinking,
00:34:49.520 | "What are they gonna do with these beads?"
00:34:50.880 | They're not Christian, but it's free.
00:34:52.880 | They want it, so I'm sure they'll figure out
00:34:54.320 | some use for it.
00:34:55.680 | But there was this one little kid,
00:34:56.960 | and he was probably no more than about 10 years old.
00:34:59.780 | All the kids are fighting each other to get these beads,
00:35:02.000 | but he was standing in line, and he wouldn't get it.
00:35:04.320 | So he said, "Hey, you can get it.
00:35:05.520 | "They'll give you one."
00:35:06.360 | He said, "I don't want it."
00:35:07.800 | And so we asked him, "How come you don't want it?"
00:35:09.360 | And he said, "I'm not a Christian."
00:35:11.120 | That's for Christians, "I'm not a Christian."
00:35:14.080 | And I was thinking to myself,
00:35:15.920 | that kid didn't come up with that by himself.
00:35:19.040 | His parents probably told him that.
00:35:21.360 | His parents probably told him,
00:35:23.240 | just like Pastor Saki said about his daughter's friends.
00:35:27.160 | Don't take anything from them,
00:35:28.400 | 'cause they're Christian.
00:35:29.600 | The thought came to me that all of these kids
00:35:38.120 | want these beads, and they're,
00:35:39.680 | because of our presence, they're open to the gospel,
00:35:41.680 | they're hearing the gospel,
00:35:43.620 | they're getting eye care, and they're talking to,
00:35:45.480 | you know, maybe people who would have never
00:35:47.040 | had any kind of interaction with these pastors
00:35:48.720 | because of our presence, they were there.
00:35:51.520 | But typically, because of that one kid,
00:35:53.200 | because of the parents' hostility to that one parent,
00:35:56.480 | we say, "Oh, we can't go there."
00:35:58.760 | Right?
00:35:59.880 | The hostility is not with everybody.
00:36:01.320 | Majority of the people there are pretty open.
00:36:04.680 | But because of the hostility of the few,
00:36:07.400 | whether that's in India,
00:36:08.960 | whether that's in the Middle East,
00:36:11.600 | all the other people don't get to hear the gospel,
00:36:14.820 | because one family member in that village says,
00:36:18.060 | "Don't go," 'cause they're hostile to the gospel.
00:36:21.220 | And I just kind of thought about that and said,
00:36:23.700 | you know, we have probably,
00:36:24.820 | for every person that's hostile to the gospel,
00:36:27.660 | you probably have thousands of people
00:36:30.340 | who are eager to hear it.
00:36:31.640 | Is that gonna prevent us from going?
00:36:35.620 | Is that gonna prevent us from taking the gospel there?
00:36:40.740 | And I'll be honest with you,
00:36:42.340 | every time I go, you know, I'm a little bit anxious.
00:36:45.900 | The first time we went out to China,
00:36:48.920 | there's a few of you who was with us
00:36:50.300 | when we first went to China.
00:36:51.300 | I was a little anxious then,
00:36:52.560 | because this is when the Communist Party was very present,
00:36:55.860 | and prior to that, all I saw was military presence.
00:36:58.540 | And so we thought, well, the door is open,
00:37:00.460 | let's see what happens.
00:37:01.300 | And we went, and then that kind of opened the door,
00:37:03.460 | and now Pastor Alex and his family's out there
00:37:05.460 | trying to establish a community there.
00:37:08.700 | But India is another level.
00:37:10.780 | We're going to an area where we don't have any contact,
00:37:13.100 | and if anything happens, we're a five-hour drive away.
00:37:15.820 | So it's not that I'm reckless
00:37:17.840 | and I don't think about these things,
00:37:19.660 | but we went because the door opened.
00:37:21.460 | And there's people who are in dire need.
00:37:24.100 | And again, we're there to support these pastors,
00:37:27.620 | and whatever they need,
00:37:28.820 | we're gonna do our best to support them.
00:37:30.820 | But now India is no longer a project, it's very personal.
00:37:37.940 | Because they become friends.
00:37:39.940 | So when I think of persecution now,
00:37:41.340 | I'm not thinking about Indian people,
00:37:43.220 | I'm thinking about Pastor Matthew, David, Sake, James,
00:37:48.220 | some of the people, some of the pastors that we met.
00:37:52.860 | And I just can't get that out of my mind,
00:37:54.820 | thinking that possibly, you know,
00:37:58.000 | one of these days I'm gonna get an email
00:37:59.420 | saying that something happened,
00:38:01.560 | and now my heart is engaged.
00:38:04.300 | My heart was not engaged in the beginning,
00:38:05.780 | it was just out of obedience.
00:38:07.460 | But now my heart is engaged.
00:38:08.580 | It's very personal now that these are friends of ours
00:38:10.860 | that are risking safety and their children
00:38:13.260 | to get the gospel out.
00:38:14.500 | And I pray that we could support them.
00:38:16.300 | But I wanna wrap up with this.
00:38:19.780 | Paul evaluated everything in his life, in his ministry,
00:38:23.980 | with the Great Commission.
00:38:26.640 | Even while he was sitting in prison.
00:38:28.920 | In Philippians 1, 12 to 14, he says,
00:38:30.700 | "I want you to know, brothers,
00:38:31.680 | "that what has happened to me
00:38:33.280 | "has really served to advance the gospel."
00:38:36.180 | He's not talking about him sitting in prison
00:38:38.260 | and what he has planned, he just says,
00:38:40.220 | "As long as the gospel is preached,
00:38:42.860 | "whether people do it out of pretense or good purpose,
00:38:45.980 | "as long as the gospel is preached."
00:38:49.060 | He says, "Because of my imprisonment,
00:38:51.260 | "even though it was one person going around village to village
00:38:53.900 | "and one person's sacrifice,
00:38:55.700 | "and all these other people became more bold.
00:38:59.380 | "And because of that, I thank God."
00:39:02.700 | Paul evaluated everything based upon
00:39:05.140 | the effectiveness of the gospel.
00:39:07.740 | A success of a church, again,
00:39:10.580 | is not the growth of the church, right?
00:39:13.580 | Just numerical value.
00:39:15.680 | The success of the church in and of itself
00:39:17.540 | is not simply, "Oh, we're so well organized.
00:39:21.020 | "We have so many people that love one another."
00:39:23.380 | I don't know about you, but I've been to
00:39:26.500 | Buddhist organizations where they love each other.
00:39:28.960 | I don't know about you, but I've been to places,
00:39:32.400 | I've been to, you know, like Muslim centers
00:39:34.800 | where they're super organized, right?
00:39:38.300 | The success of the church is directly linked
00:39:40.980 | to the Great Commission.
00:39:42.900 | And that's what Paul says.
00:39:45.060 | And I want to leave you with this,
00:39:46.280 | because this is what this trip,
00:39:48.580 | like it caused me to think.
00:39:51.220 | And it's still remaining with me.
00:39:53.540 | You know, Pastor Sake is the guy that I had contact with.
00:39:56.180 | And so I've been emailing back and forth with him
00:39:58.180 | for the last five years, and then,
00:39:59.820 | actually, last two years, we were able to go.
00:40:01.780 | Now we have a personal relationship.
00:40:04.680 | But Pastor Sake is kind of like the middle child
00:40:07.140 | of three children, and I think maybe that's why
00:40:08.940 | it's easier for me to connect with him, right?
00:40:11.660 | And it was so funny, 'cause I asked him, like,
00:40:13.540 | "Did your older brother beat you when you were young?"
00:40:16.580 | And he just, matter of fact, "Yes."
00:40:18.620 | And I said, "Did you torture your younger brother?"
00:40:21.620 | Which is Pastor David, and he just says, "Of course."
00:40:24.300 | That's what he said.
00:40:25.860 | And I was like, "Yes, this guy understands."
00:40:28.180 | Why not, right?
00:40:30.020 | It's like, anyway, so he was sharing this,
00:40:32.660 | and the reason why I like talking to Pastor David,
00:40:36.040 | Pastor Sake is the mouthpiece of this family.
00:40:38.240 | He's the one presenting.
00:40:39.240 | Whenever there's a presentation, he's the one translating.
00:40:42.200 | But Pastor David is the one, the younger brother,
00:40:46.160 | who was abused all his life, and so when he,
00:40:48.800 | he's the introvert, you know, he only,
00:40:51.400 | usually talks when you ask him a question.
00:40:53.400 | He doesn't really initiate.
00:40:54.560 | And then when you do ask him a question,
00:40:56.200 | he just says things matter of fact, right?
00:40:58.480 | He just says it, just says it.
00:40:59.680 | He doesn't think about, like, how is this gonna come across?
00:41:02.200 | He just says it, right?
00:41:03.760 | And so I think one of the guys asked him, like,
00:41:05.840 | what was the hardest thing, you know,
00:41:07.440 | the craziest thing that you experienced?
00:41:09.160 | And he said, "Oh, you know, we run into cobras."
00:41:11.600 | And he says, "Yeah, you know, one time,
00:41:13.240 | "we had to run from a tiger, you know."
00:41:15.480 | (audience laughing)
00:41:16.440 | But it's just the way he talks.
00:41:17.560 | Like, "Yeah, run from a tiger,
00:41:18.480 | "and then we went and ate lunch."
00:41:20.240 | And, you know, and usually he's just very matter of fact.
00:41:23.240 | Right?
00:41:24.340 | So he doesn't talk about the hardship and persecution,
00:41:26.760 | like, "Oh, it's so hard."
00:41:27.760 | He just, he just says, "Yeah, it's hard.
00:41:31.680 | "You know, we can't pay bills."
00:41:33.320 | That's it, the end.
00:41:35.280 | You know, usually that's how the conversation goes.
00:41:37.400 | But one thing that, in the context of talking to him,
00:41:39.780 | that he said to me, again, he said it just in passing,
00:41:42.480 | that really stuck with me.
00:41:44.040 | I asked him about the hardship of persecution.
00:41:47.440 | He says, "Yeah, persecution is growing."
00:41:50.580 | And he mentioned a specific incident that happened
00:41:53.440 | not that long ago.
00:41:54.280 | It's not near his home, but it's maybe about the distance
00:41:56.480 | between here and NorCal, but it's in that same state.
00:42:00.720 | And he said, "A Christian got beaten and killed.
00:42:03.520 | "Last year in that same area, I got an email
00:42:05.940 | "from one of our contacts in Bangalore
00:42:07.680 | "asking us to pray for them, because two of their pastors
00:42:11.280 | "going into the village basically got jumped,
00:42:14.000 | "and they had their teeth knocked out,
00:42:15.560 | "and both their legs broke in.
00:42:16.860 | "And so they were in the hospital
00:42:17.780 | "asking us to pray for them.
00:42:18.900 | "This is right before we went.
00:42:20.320 | "I got this email.
00:42:21.520 | "I didn't share it with our team,
00:42:23.100 | "'cause I didn't wanna freak them out."
00:42:24.200 | But basically, this same thing happened
00:42:26.560 | in that similar area.
00:42:27.520 | Again, it's about five hours drive from where they are.
00:42:30.200 | And he said, "Yeah, it wasn't reported in the media,
00:42:32.440 | "but all the Christians know about it.
00:42:34.380 | "So they got jumped and they got killed."
00:42:36.960 | And he said, "We see persecution coming."
00:42:39.760 | And where Pastor Sake lives is the next hotbed
00:42:43.540 | of this persecution.
00:42:44.680 | And when he says persecution coming,
00:42:46.960 | he's not talking about people throwing rocks
00:42:49.160 | and beating them, because they're already experiencing
00:42:51.920 | that in the village.
00:42:52.760 | When he says persecution, he's talking about death.
00:42:55.240 | He says, "We see it coming."
00:42:56.360 | And again, like I said, he says it very matter of fact.
00:42:59.000 | He just kinda says it like, "This is it."
00:43:01.400 | "We see persecution coming, but we're not afraid.
00:43:05.000 | "We're gonna keep doing God's work."
00:43:07.640 | And he just says that.
00:43:08.840 | And then we just go back to eating.
00:43:10.480 | (audience laughs)
00:43:12.080 | And when he said that, as I was eating,
00:43:14.200 | I was just thinking, "Wow, this is real to them."
00:43:17.120 | To us, it's a theory.
00:43:19.760 | It's things that we read about.
00:43:21.420 | We go there for a week and we come back
00:43:23.000 | and we're affected by it.
00:43:24.680 | And they're living in the context of this every day,
00:43:27.120 | and they could easily fix the problem.
00:43:29.920 | Stop preaching the gospel.
00:43:31.240 | Stop going to these villages.
00:43:33.620 | Practice your faith in your home
00:43:37.520 | with the Christians who are already Christians,
00:43:39.200 | and just encourage each other to stay faithful.
00:43:43.000 | All they have to do is stop going to these villages.
00:43:45.400 | Stop preaching the gospel.
00:43:46.760 | But just as a matter of fact, we see persecution coming,
00:43:52.640 | but we're not afraid.
00:43:55.000 | And their fellowship is embedded in my head
00:43:57.520 | because I saw the 32 pastors.
00:44:00.280 | Last year, we didn't know who they were until the last day,
00:44:03.280 | but I knew right away.
00:44:04.440 | And I was able to see the interaction.
00:44:06.860 | Their interaction was no different than the way we interact.
00:44:11.720 | I was with Pastor Alex and we're joking around, having fun.
00:44:15.200 | And it's typically like that when all the coworkers
00:44:19.040 | would be gathered together.
00:44:20.120 | And our team, we just hang around.
00:44:21.620 | We're having a lot of fun.
00:44:22.720 | And we saw their interactions as a bunch of friends.
00:44:26.040 | These pastors risking everything to go to the villages,
00:44:29.280 | share the gospel.
00:44:30.120 | And as I was looking at that, I said,
00:44:31.720 | wow, these guys are no different than us,
00:44:34.920 | but they're risking everything to get the gospel out.
00:44:38.280 | So I come back this trip and I ask you to pray
00:44:42.340 | that God would make it clear to us how to proceed.
00:44:45.040 | And to me, it seems clear that these are people
00:44:47.600 | we need to get behind.
00:44:49.040 | And to partner, again, not just financially.
00:44:52.440 | Finance is the easiest part, right?
00:44:55.520 | How, knowing these people personally,
00:44:58.000 | how is it gonna affect my life?
00:44:59.280 | How is it gonna affect your life?
00:45:00.960 | And I pray that as a church,
00:45:03.840 | that we would not simply onlookers and just clap hands
00:45:07.640 | and saying, God, thank you for these people.
00:45:10.560 | But that you and I would also heed the commandment
00:45:13.840 | that's given to us.
00:45:15.600 | And that God would give us a heart as we obey.
00:45:18.720 | So can you take some time to pray with me this morning
00:45:21.000 | as I welcome the priest in back.
00:45:23.160 | Just take a minute, I know a lot of time has already gone.
00:45:26.440 | Take a minute to examine our lives.
00:45:29.200 | And I wanna ask you, some of the frustration
00:45:31.320 | that you feel as a Christian,
00:45:32.920 | how much of that is related to what I said this morning?
00:45:36.460 | That you feel a disconnect in your walk with God.
00:45:39.080 | You come to church, you serve,
00:45:40.280 | you're in the midst of fellowship around the church,
00:45:42.500 | you're serving the church even, but there's a disconnect.