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2015-10-10 Study of 1 Corinthians Part 2 Week 9


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00:00:00.000 | So, let's look at our passage for today.
00:00:07.480 | If you would turn in your Bibles to chapter 10 of 1 Corinthians, and we're reading from
00:00:11.780 | verse 23 down to verse 33, okay?
00:00:16.200 | So chapter 10, verse 23, down to verse 33.
00:00:20.520 | And this is what it says, "All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable.
00:00:27.640 | All things are lawful, but not all things edify.
00:00:31.040 | Let no one seek his own good, but that of his neighbor.
00:00:34.560 | Eat anything that is sold in the meat market without asking questions for conscience sake.
00:00:39.800 | For the earth is the Lord's and all it contains.
00:00:42.720 | If one of the unbelievers invites you and you want to go, eat anything that is set before
00:00:47.520 | you without asking questions for conscience sake.
00:00:50.800 | But if anyone says to you, 'This is meat sacrificed to idols,' then do not eat it.
00:00:56.000 | For the sake of the one who informed you and for conscience sake.
00:00:59.440 | I mean not your own conscience, but the other man's.
00:01:02.720 | For why is my freedom judged by another's conscience?
00:01:06.360 | If I partake with thankfulness, why am I slandered concerning that for which I give thanks?
00:01:12.320 | Whether then you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all for the glory of God.
00:01:16.920 | Give no offense either to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God.
00:01:21.480 | But as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit
00:01:26.920 | of the many so that they may be saved."
00:01:29.720 | All right, let's take a moment to pray and then we'll jump into the text.
00:01:35.200 | Father God, we truly want to thank you for the word.
00:01:38.680 | God help us to be a people who are hungry for your truth.
00:01:43.360 | Hungry God, knowing that we need your guidance, we need your nourishment.
00:01:48.080 | And Father, as you are directing the church on how to behave in relationship to other
00:01:54.240 | brothers and other sisters, I pray Father God that you grant us wisdom.
00:01:58.440 | Lord, thank you in Christ's name, amen.
00:02:02.640 | So this is like a great kind of conclusion to a long segment.
00:02:09.480 | For those of you guys, there's no table seating, so just sit anywhere you want, okay?
00:02:15.800 | This is a kind of a long drawn out section that is now coming to a little bit of a conclusion.
00:02:20.960 | It began in chapter eight, okay?
00:02:23.880 | And remember, I mentioned earlier that it's talking about Christian liberty.
00:02:28.840 | And the way I would like to summarize that chapter eight till 11 verse one is really
00:02:34.520 | knowing the difference between right and wrong.
00:02:37.680 | So I left a blank for you there, knowing the difference between right and wrong.
00:02:43.380 | But if you guys would, in your blank, write dot dot dot, or what's best.
00:02:49.740 | So it's knowing the difference between right and wrong, dot dot dot, or what's best.
00:02:55.160 | And it took me a long time to think about that little heading.
00:03:00.080 | But what I see as, again, a huge benefit to the book of First Corinthians is it is truly
00:03:05.800 | a wisdom book teaching you how to decide.
00:03:11.080 | And if you take a look at verses 23 to 24, it says, "All things are lawful, but not
00:03:15.980 | all things are profitable.
00:03:17.400 | All things are lawful, but not all things edify."
00:03:22.000 | And that really sends us back to chapter six, which when I taught that lesson, I introduced
00:03:27.640 | as a wisdom text, teaching you not simply to decide, hey, what's right and wrong, but
00:03:34.020 | teaching you to decide what's best.
00:03:37.440 | Because you're asking the question, what is profitable?
00:03:41.900 | Not just what's lawful, but what's really profitable?
00:03:46.300 | And so, perhaps the people at the Church of Corinth wrote a letter to the Apostle Paul
00:03:53.880 | saying, "So what do we do about this disagreement we have?
00:03:57.080 | You got a bunch of people saying, 'We can't touch that meat because it's been offered
00:04:02.300 | to idols and it's been sacrificed and it will be unholy.'
00:04:06.260 | And then they're wrestling, like, 'Oh, but I want to, but I don't want to, and there's
00:04:10.220 | a lot of reasons to want to, and then there's a lot of reasons to not want to.
00:04:13.060 | I don't know what to do.'
00:04:14.060 | And then there's a bunch of people who are saying, 'Dude, it's nothing.
00:04:17.020 | Just eat it.
00:04:18.020 | What do we do about this disagreement?'
00:04:19.600 | Maybe it was a simple question, but they just got an earful from Apostle Paul, from chapter
00:04:25.420 | eight to chapter 10, chapter 11, verse one.
00:04:28.820 | Now what's really interesting about this concluding remark, okay?
00:04:32.600 | So this is a concluding section, is that I feel like Apostle Paul goes back and forth.
00:04:38.600 | If you read verses 23 and 24, essentially what he's saying is, "Don't eat it."
00:04:43.300 | Right?
00:04:44.300 | I mean, he's saying, "Look, all things are lawful, not all things are profitable, all
00:04:47.700 | things are lawful, but not all things edify."
00:04:50.640 | So he says, "Let no one seek his own good, but that of his neighbor."
00:04:55.460 | If you were to receive that after asking the question, "Hey, what should I do?"
00:05:00.420 | And you know, maybe it's your pastor or an older brother or sister, they're like, "Don't
00:05:04.660 | be so selfish.
00:05:05.660 | Don't look out for your own good.
00:05:08.660 | Think about the other people."
00:05:10.380 | You would think, "Okay, fine.
00:05:11.380 | I won't eat it.
00:05:12.380 | Gosh."
00:05:13.380 | You know, like, that's the way you would respond probably, right?
00:05:16.540 | So what I'd like you to do in order to kind of get the point of what he's saying is, take
00:05:21.660 | a look at chapter six, verse 12, and tell me, by comparing contrast, what is he getting
00:05:27.700 | at here?
00:05:28.700 | What do you see as a difference between what he's saying back in chapter six when he wanted
00:05:33.060 | the church to be wise, versus here in chapter 10 when he wants the church to be wise?
00:05:39.940 | So I'll read the passage for us, chapter six, verse 12.
00:05:43.140 | "All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable."
00:05:46.700 | Hmm, sounds like the same thing.
00:05:48.060 | "All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything."
00:05:51.500 | Okay.
00:05:55.820 | My question to you guys is, it sounds like the same thing, but there's obviously a difference,
00:06:03.620 | and the difference is obvious, but why that difference?
00:06:07.420 | "Isn't 6.12 talking about what's good for me, and this is talking about what's good
00:06:16.420 | for someone else?"
00:06:17.980 | Excellent.
00:06:18.980 | Okay.
00:06:19.980 | So in the context of chapter six, he's talking a lot about your own self-control, and it's
00:06:23.740 | in the context when he recently, or really closely in proximity, talked about sexual
00:06:28.540 | morality.
00:06:30.220 | So you are having a control over your own flesh.
00:06:34.260 | But then here in chapter 10, he wants you to think outside your box, and to think about
00:06:40.380 | other people.
00:06:41.820 | And what he says is, "Let no one seek his own good, but that of his neighbor."
00:06:46.300 | Okay?
00:06:47.620 | So there's your point that he really wants you to get at, okay?
00:06:52.660 | Now, if you were to highlight, or circle, in that little phrase, "Let no one seek his
00:07:00.260 | own good, but that of his neighbor," what would you circle as the command?
00:07:11.300 | And I know it's kind of like, "What are you really asking here?
00:07:14.220 | It's really obvious what the command is."
00:07:16.260 | Well, I want to make a point from it, and I didn't know how else to get at it.
00:07:20.620 | Here's the obvious question, what's the command?
00:07:24.340 | So someone volunteer and tell me what you circled.
00:07:26.940 | What would you circle as the command?
00:07:30.460 | "Seek."
00:07:32.460 | Excellent.
00:07:34.460 | Okay, seek.
00:07:37.180 | Sometimes you see things in the negative form, "Hey, don't do this."
00:07:41.220 | Okay?
00:07:42.220 | And then sometimes you see things in the positive form, "Do this."
00:07:48.660 | When I first read this passage in, you know, verse 24, I just underlined, "Hey, don't seek
00:07:55.660 | your own good."
00:07:57.100 | So essentially what that's telling you is, "Hey, don't be selfish."
00:07:59.780 | Right?
00:08:00.780 | Well, let's think of a hypothetical scenario, and I want to make the point that if you were
00:08:07.180 | to leave it at that and say, "Hey, don't be selfish," that would not really capture what
00:08:12.020 | Apostle Paul expects.
00:08:14.100 | Okay?
00:08:15.540 | So let's all think of a hypothetical scenario where you have three friends.
00:08:20.300 | I try to pick names that, you know, nobody shares the name in this room.
00:08:25.100 | First person, Lawrence.
00:08:26.660 | Lawrence wants to go eat with his buddies and says, "Hey, I feel like Mexican food today."
00:08:30.700 | But Rebecca is like, "Oh, I don't know.
00:08:33.060 | I was feeling like Korean today."
00:08:35.300 | But then Lydia was like, "Oh, but I had Korean yesterday."
00:08:38.140 | Okay.
00:08:39.140 | Let me ask you a question.
00:08:41.140 | You got three people who want different things.
00:08:44.600 | If you were to obey the command of, "Hey, let no one seek his own good," in the negative
00:08:49.700 | form, what would you do?
00:08:51.700 | What?
00:08:52.700 | Get chicken?
00:08:53.700 | Is that what you said?
00:08:54.700 | Get fusion.
00:08:55.700 | Urban soul.
00:08:56.700 | Okay.
00:08:57.700 | I guess that's one thing you can do.
00:09:05.580 | Stop messing up my analogy, all right?
00:09:09.820 | But I think a lot of times what I find people do is to say like, "Okay, then let's just
00:09:15.200 | do what you want."
00:09:16.200 | Right?
00:09:18.660 | Sometimes what I find like option A is just scenarios like this have happened, okay?
00:09:24.400 | Three friends get together and they want to go out to eat and then everyone says something
00:09:28.300 | different and then so there's this like, "So, do, do, do."
00:09:32.660 | And then there's this awkward silence because everyone's kind of waiting for someone to
00:09:35.700 | say something.
00:09:36.820 | That's option A. Okay?
00:09:38.640 | Option A is to not say anything and let it be awkward.
00:09:41.520 | Option B is to say, "Okay, fine.
00:09:42.520 | Let's just do what you want."
00:09:44.140 | Right?
00:09:45.140 | And the reason why I say that's not sufficient because to say whatever, "I guess I'm okay
00:09:52.060 | with Korean," is actually not what Apostle Paul is expecting.
00:09:56.900 | Why do I say that?
00:09:57.900 | It's because, let me suggest an option C. Option C is for one person who perhaps is
00:10:05.980 | thinking of this scenario and really has the heart that exemplifies what Apostle Paul says,
00:10:11.100 | "Let no one seek his own good but that of his neighbor," and becomes what I like to
00:10:15.020 | call the considerate initiator.
00:10:17.100 | Okay?
00:10:18.100 | The considerate initiator.
00:10:20.420 | And let's say it's Rebecca and Rebecca says, "All right, let's go Chipotle."
00:10:24.540 | It's like, "That's Mexican food."
00:10:27.660 | I guess you'd call it like, you know, Americanized Mexican food, right?
00:10:31.260 | Well, the thing about that is she didn't say, "Hey, whatever.
00:10:34.780 | I'm okay with it," but what she said was, "I suggest."
00:10:37.900 | Here's an option that I know pleases you, but I'm suggesting it.
00:10:41.820 | It's very different from saying, "Hey, whatever.
00:10:44.420 | I can do what you want."
00:10:46.180 | Why do I say that?
00:10:47.540 | It's because when you say something to the extent of, "Hey, like, I'm okay with it, but
00:10:56.100 | as long as you want it, sure," what ends up happening is the person who says, "Yeah, I
00:11:00.220 | want Mexican," they end up feeling selfish.
00:11:02.860 | And so I'm not sure if you guys have ever experienced a scenario with your friend or
00:11:06.700 | a scenario with your spouse, boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever it may be.
00:11:11.060 | And guys, this is free advice for you.
00:11:14.460 | If you say whatever you decide, you are already lost.
00:11:20.020 | Even if she gets in the end what she wants, you lose.
00:11:23.340 | You do.
00:11:24.340 | Because it seems like either you don't care, it seems like secretly you want something,
00:11:29.060 | but you're not willing to say it, which now you've lost your pants.
00:11:32.140 | The other thing that happens is if you say whatever, you know what I'm saying, right?
00:11:36.540 | It's just a no-win situation when you do that.
00:11:38.740 | But if you become a considerate initiator, you say, "Okay, you're choosing something,
00:11:45.420 | and rather than choosing, like right now, Bea and I, we moved into our home, and I could
00:11:50.260 | have decided I want to decorate my house with masculine things.
00:11:54.300 | Everything needs to be gray and navy blue, right?
00:11:57.480 | But if I chose to decide to become a considerate initiator and pick the thing that I know she's
00:12:03.640 | delighted by, now I've done way more, way more than just I'm not being selfish."
00:12:11.680 | Why am I making a point of this?
00:12:13.080 | That's not even a biblical scenario.
00:12:14.720 | This is just like scenarios of this and that.
00:12:18.000 | It's because if you read the passage as, "Let no one seek his own good and stop there,"
00:12:23.680 | you're not getting his point.
00:12:26.080 | Because if you put that into the right circles, it should be, "Seek the good of his neighbor,"
00:12:35.000 | right?
00:12:36.160 | And that is so much more than just simply stop being selfish.
00:12:41.200 | And I want to ask you the question, are you being characterized by not just simply, "Let
00:12:45.840 | the people have their way.
00:12:47.840 | Fine."
00:12:48.840 | Or are you going above and beyond that to, "Are you seeking what is profitable?
00:12:53.120 | Are you seeking what will edify?
00:12:54.800 | Are you really seeking that which is good for your neighbor?"
00:12:58.440 | Do you see the point that I'm making?
00:13:01.000 | It is a go above and beyond what's minimal.
00:13:04.160 | Go above and beyond, cease from your selfish ways to now seek what is actually in favor
00:13:10.040 | of your brother and sister in Christ.
00:13:12.840 | That is very much so more than perhaps what we would think.
00:13:16.400 | Does that make sense?
00:13:18.600 | Yeah.
00:13:19.600 | A biblical scenario more in tune with this is really, you know, let's say Wesley who
00:13:24.080 | is weak in conscience.
00:13:27.280 | Wesley could ask stubborn Steve, "Hey, could you not eat that for me?
00:13:32.480 | Because I saw that offered in the temple.
00:13:35.240 | Could you please not eat that?"
00:13:36.400 | I mean, in this scenario, Wesley could be the one to ask, right?
00:13:42.440 | But the thing about it is, if stubborn Steve had this attitude of like, "I'm going to eat
00:13:46.920 | until somebody asks," is he fulfilling what Apostle Paul is calling him to?
00:13:52.040 | Do you see my point?
00:13:54.480 | The considerate initiator.
00:13:57.000 | If he's in there, or if let's say, you know, Rebecca's in there like, "Yeah, I'm all Korean,
00:14:02.120 | but if they ask, okay, I will."
00:14:03.800 | You know what I mean?
00:14:04.800 | That's a completely different attitude of the heart.
00:14:07.960 | And I think that's what I'm getting at here and I'm seeing is, if you're reading it one
00:14:12.120 | way, it's like, "I will fulfill this by doing the minimum."
00:14:16.240 | But the other part is, the considerate initiator would be the one who says, "Beyond that, I'll
00:14:23.080 | consider what's best for my neighbor."
00:14:24.960 | Okay?
00:14:25.960 | All right.
00:14:28.960 | If you would, turn in your Bibles to Romans chapter 14, Romans chapter 14.
00:14:35.240 | And this passage, I've referenced before, when I was preaching chapter 8, but realize
00:14:41.940 | that this scenario, not only is it common in the Church of Corinth, but this scenario
00:14:47.280 | is common all across the various churches.
00:14:50.560 | And I mentioned how not only is it common, but it's something that probably came up in
00:14:55.000 | everyday life, especially in their context.
00:14:58.440 | But the principle behind it will actually show itself in our everyday context as well.
00:15:05.920 | Are you guys cold at all?
00:15:07.920 | Sorry, I just got the shivers.
00:15:11.160 | If you're cold, you guys can lower that thermostat.
00:15:13.280 | If you're fine, I'm good.
00:15:14.840 | All right.
00:15:15.840 | In Romans chapter, what did I say?
00:15:19.200 | 14, verse 13.
00:15:20.200 | Okay?
00:15:21.200 | >> Is this the best?
00:15:22.200 | >> What?
00:15:23.200 | Are you going to be considered or not, dude?
00:15:24.200 | I'm just kidding.
00:15:25.200 | I'm just kidding.
00:15:26.200 | No, it was honestly, I just wanted to see.
00:15:27.200 | >> I don't even know how I responded.
00:15:28.200 | >> What would Jesus do, Jason?
00:15:29.200 | What would Jesus do, Jason?
00:15:30.200 | I'll let you work out your faith and fear and trembling over there.
00:15:50.960 | That's so funny.
00:15:51.960 | All right.
00:15:52.960 | Verse 13 of chapter 14 in the book of Romans.
00:15:58.920 | There's so much to glean from this passage.
00:16:00.720 | And it says, "Therefore, let us not judge another anymore, but rather determine this,
00:16:08.680 | not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in our brother's way.
00:16:12.440 | I know and I'm convinced in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but to
00:16:17.040 | him who thinks anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
00:16:21.360 | For if because of food your brother is hurt, you are no longer walking according to love.
00:16:26.760 | Do not destroy with your food him from whom Christ died.
00:16:30.560 | Therefore, do not let what is for you a good thing be spoken of as evil.
00:16:35.680 | For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the
00:16:40.440 | Holy Spirit.
00:16:41.680 | For he who is this way serves Christ in this way, serves Christ, is acceptable to God and
00:16:46.880 | approved by men.
00:16:48.400 | So then we pursue the things which make for peace and the building up of one another.
00:16:53.560 | Do not tear down the work of God for the sake of food.
00:16:56.480 | All things indeed are clean, but they are evil for the man who eats and gives defense.
00:17:01.600 | It is good not to eat meat or to drink wine or to do anything by which your brother stumbles.
00:17:07.440 | The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God.
00:17:11.160 | Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves, but he who doubts is condemned
00:17:16.560 | if he eats because his eating is not from faith and whatever is not from faith is sin."
00:17:22.560 | Okay.
00:17:23.640 | Wow, that's a lot just packed in that paragraph, right?
00:17:28.360 | But for our purposes, I'm just highlighting the exhortation, right?
00:17:35.280 | He essentially said, "Let no one seek his own good, but that of his neighbor."
00:17:41.400 | In almost very similar context, Apostle Paul is addressing the same issue in the book of
00:17:45.920 | Romans.
00:17:46.920 | Okay?
00:17:47.920 | All right.
00:17:50.160 | Let's take a look at verse 25 through 27.
00:17:53.440 | Shan, Keresi.
00:17:55.320 | Welcome back and can you read verse 25 to 27?
00:17:58.280 | Sorry?
00:17:59.280 | Oh, my bad.
00:18:01.400 | Back in first Corinthians.
00:18:02.400 | Yeah, first Corinthians chapter 10, 25 to 27.
00:18:03.400 | "If anything that is sold in the meat market, not asking questions, but consciously, for
00:18:04.400 | the earth, for the Lord, and all it contains.
00:18:05.400 | If one of the unbelievers invites you and you want to go eat at a set before you go
00:18:06.400 | to bed, and you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:07.400 | But if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:08.400 | And if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:09.400 | And if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:10.400 | But if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:31.400 | And if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:32.400 | But if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:33.400 | But if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:34.400 | But if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:35.400 | But if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:36.400 | But if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:37.400 | But if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:38.400 | But if you don't want to go, you can go to the market and ask for a meal.
00:18:39.400 | well as far as verse 23, 24, he essentially said,
00:18:41.700 | "Hey, can you please think about your brothers?
00:18:44.660 | "Don't eat it", kind of right?
00:18:47.040 | He didn't say don't eat it, but he says,
00:18:48.460 | you need to think about your neighbors
00:18:49.500 | and I would conclude, okay I'm not gonna eat it.
00:18:52.480 | But then here he says, eat it, right?
00:18:54.660 | And you gotta ask, why?
00:18:58.300 | Why the flip flop and why go back and forth
00:19:00.540 | and what's going on?
00:19:02.220 | Well, notice the repetition here.
00:19:06.040 | In the paragraph from verse 25 to 27,
00:19:09.480 | what is the phrase that you see repeated?
00:19:12.680 | I'm asking for another, again, just observation question.
00:19:15.800 | Please just yell it out.
00:19:17.200 | One more time.
00:19:19.680 | Okay, so eat anything is one.
00:19:24.200 | For conscience sake is two, okay?
00:19:28.240 | All right, so eat anything for conscience sake.
00:19:32.400 | It's like, mm, okay.
00:19:35.280 | So he's saying, eat anything without asking questions
00:19:37.640 | for conscience sake.
00:19:38.960 | So he repeats that essentially, that whole phrase twice.
00:19:43.160 | Eat anything without asking questions
00:19:44.920 | for conscience sake twice, right?
00:19:47.340 | So that means in my mind, he's talking about
00:19:49.960 | two different scenarios.
00:19:51.120 | One scenario is, you're at the meat market.
00:19:53.680 | Another scenario is, you are at your friend's house.
00:19:56.540 | Right?
00:19:58.800 | And the principle is, eat anything,
00:20:00.960 | don't ask any questions.
00:20:02.160 | Do you find that kind of funny at all?
00:20:04.800 | I find it pretty hilarious.
00:20:06.200 | I find it a little hilarious 'cause it's kind of like
00:20:09.480 | a don't ask, don't tell policy, right?
00:20:13.240 | It almost sounds like, I don't know,
00:20:14.920 | doesn't that sound a little shady?
00:20:16.420 | Like, ignorance is bliss, I didn't know,
00:20:19.160 | you know, like that kind of stuff.
00:20:20.920 | And so my question to you would be,
00:20:23.040 | all right, so the scenarios, there's two,
00:20:26.840 | and then he says, eat anything that is sold
00:20:29.800 | in the marketplace, eat anything at your friend's house,
00:20:32.920 | but then don't ask the question.
00:20:34.680 | My question is, is this what I think it sounds like?
00:20:38.520 | Is it the same as a don't ask and don't tell policy?
00:20:41.780 | Think about it a little bit.
00:20:45.080 | This one's a little bit harder question.
00:20:47.240 | And if you say no, then I'm gonna ask you why.
00:20:50.500 | What kind of principle is he thinking about?
00:20:56.560 | Okay.
00:20:57.400 | And if it's not a, hey, don't ask, don't tell
00:21:03.760 | kind of stuff, then what is it?
00:21:05.560 | - I think it's not don't ask, don't tell.
00:21:10.880 | - Okay.
00:21:11.720 | - Understand that these things don't matter,
00:21:17.440 | so you don't need to ask.
00:21:19.120 | But if somebody tells you, then it matters for them.
00:21:21.800 | - Okay.
00:21:23.240 | All right, did you guys hear what he said?
00:21:25.760 | So it's kind of like, there is still a difference
00:21:29.840 | between for you, for them, right?
00:21:32.400 | For you, for them.
00:21:33.760 | And the reason why that's there is because
00:21:37.280 | Apostle Paul in his mind knows that that's there.
00:21:41.200 | If you take a peek over at the next verse, okay?
00:21:45.000 | Verse 29, I mean not your conscience,
00:21:48.300 | but the other man's, okay?
00:21:50.120 | So you're peeking over at verse 29,
00:21:51.560 | it says I'm not in your conscience,
00:21:53.000 | I'm conscience, their conscience, okay?
00:21:55.040 | So, it is not a don't ask, don't tell policy, okay?
00:22:00.040 | It's more of a differentiating your conscience,
00:22:06.140 | their conscience policy, okay?
00:22:08.640 | So why do I say that?
00:22:11.040 | It's because for you, what exists is verse 26.
00:22:16.040 | And I asked the question, how does verse 26
00:22:19.080 | support this policy of eating the market food
00:22:21.520 | without asking?
00:22:22.840 | Because the overarching truth that he quotes
00:22:25.280 | from Psalm 24, one, is basically the earth of the Lord's
00:22:29.120 | and all that it contains.
00:22:31.240 | So even the, for me, what I believe,
00:22:36.160 | the truth that I've come to know is,
00:22:37.720 | even the food that's here before me,
00:22:40.680 | no matter who they offer it to,
00:22:42.320 | it doesn't belong to them.
00:22:44.600 | I know that the idols are nothing,
00:22:46.200 | and the food that's given is just food, right?
00:22:50.280 | And not only that, but other passages,
00:22:52.360 | Acts 10, verse 15, what God has cleansed,
00:22:55.720 | do not consider unholy.
00:22:57.720 | First Timothy, whoa.
00:22:59.240 | I don't know what happened there.
00:23:02.680 | Okay, first time in.
00:23:04.320 | Okay, First Timothy, I believe it's chapter four,
00:23:06.360 | verses three through five.
00:23:08.080 | I think that's where I got it from.
00:23:10.200 | It says basically, refuse the men who forbid marriage
00:23:12.960 | and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created
00:23:15.400 | to be gratefully shared in by those who believe
00:23:18.720 | and know the truth.
00:23:19.560 | Everything created by God is good,
00:23:21.320 | and nothing is to be rejected
00:23:22.960 | if it is received with gratitude,
00:23:24.920 | for it is sanctified by means of the word of God
00:23:27.920 | and prayer, right?
00:23:29.640 | So the truth that we know is that everything belongs to God,
00:23:33.000 | and it's the poor's idea, so you can eat it.
00:23:34.960 | Why, because this is your conscience.
00:23:36.960 | My conscience is actually still not ruled
00:23:41.200 | by the other person's conscience
00:23:43.640 | when it pertains to the food, okay?
00:23:47.400 | Now, it's gonna sound like you're splitting hair,
00:23:50.360 | but essentially what David said was right.
00:23:53.120 | There's still their conscience and my conscience,
00:23:55.360 | but when it comes into effect about my conscience
00:23:57.720 | is the eating before this person's face.
00:24:00.400 | Does that make sense?
00:24:02.840 | If it's just me before the food, my conscience is clear.
00:24:06.160 | When my conscience comes into line
00:24:07.680 | is my eating before the face of my brother, right?
00:24:11.320 | So there is a differentiation in the scenario.
00:24:15.760 | He says in two scenarios, you can eat
00:24:17.680 | because all the food belongs to God,
00:24:19.960 | but in the two scenarios, what comes into play
00:24:22.280 | is the other man's conscience.
00:24:23.840 | Does that make sense?
00:24:25.560 | So in order to kind of summarize this point real quick,
00:24:29.480 | I'm going to bring up a modern day thing.
00:24:33.220 | Did you know that a famous restaurant,
00:24:37.560 | I can't say it's a restaurant,
00:24:38.960 | but in New York they have a thing called a Halal Guys.
00:24:41.400 | Have you guys heard of that?
00:24:43.520 | No?
00:24:44.600 | Yes, did you know it's coming right here?
00:24:47.060 | Right off of Bristol and Paul Arena,
00:24:50.600 | there's a little shopping plaza,
00:24:52.080 | Premistry is coming in there,
00:24:53.920 | and then there's like the Halal Guys coming in there,
00:24:55.920 | there's this like world renowned Japanese ramen place
00:24:58.400 | that's coming in there.
00:24:59.420 | It's pretty cool, okay?
00:25:00.520 | But then what's really interesting is,
00:25:03.600 | the reason why this topic came up
00:25:07.540 | is 'cause I met a brother at church at a restaurant,
00:25:11.160 | and on the menu they had Halal food.
00:25:13.840 | And I said, "That's so funny,
00:25:14.680 | "I thought that was the name of the restaurant."
00:25:16.280 | And then so we Googled it.
00:25:17.800 | And so for those of you guys who are really excited
00:25:20.880 | for this Halal God thing,
00:25:21.840 | I'm gonna ruin it for you right now.
00:25:24.480 | If you guys have never heard of what is Halal,
00:25:26.600 | Halal is actually a Muslim term, okay?
00:25:31.600 | It's an Islamic term.
00:25:32.720 | So Muslim is the people, Islam is the religion.
00:25:35.640 | It literally means lawful,
00:25:38.240 | and it means lawful under the Quran, okay?
00:25:41.640 | And the reason why they care about this
00:25:43.920 | is because underneath the Quran,
00:25:45.760 | you have to have the right kind of animal,
00:25:48.720 | you have to slaughter it the right way,
00:25:51.040 | and then you have to prepare the food the right way.
00:25:53.240 | And the thing about it is, underneath that law,
00:25:55.480 | they have restrictions in the kind of animal,
00:25:58.000 | it cannot be a carnivore.
00:25:59.880 | And then secondly, it has to be slaughtered
00:26:01.960 | in a way that's as painless as possible to the animal.
00:26:05.800 | And the preparation has to be,
00:26:07.360 | you can't just take a dead animal
00:26:09.240 | that's been dead for a while and do it.
00:26:11.320 | You have to actually invoke the name of God,
00:26:13.260 | and soon after it's been slaughtered,
00:26:14.840 | you have to prepare it,
00:26:15.680 | and it has to be prepared by somebody
00:26:17.040 | who has been sanctioned.
00:26:19.080 | What's really interesting about that is
00:26:21.040 | the Quran allows Christians and Jews to prepare that food,
00:26:26.200 | because Christians and Jews are monotheistic,
00:26:28.560 | and they're scripturistic,
00:26:29.640 | meaning they have scripture text to abide by, right?
00:26:32.960 | Which I think is kind of funny,
00:26:34.040 | because they look down on the, anyway.
00:26:36.400 | The thing about the whole thing is,
00:26:39.280 | I got bothered when, down the line,
00:26:41.040 | the food's coming out, smells really good,
00:26:42.720 | it's right underneath me,
00:26:43.680 | and I've got this Google thing coming up,
00:26:45.520 | and it says, "In the preparation,
00:26:48.240 | "you have to invoke the name of Allah."
00:26:51.480 | And I went, "Ugh."
00:26:53.680 | (laughing)
00:26:55.800 | Right?
00:26:56.640 | The smell is coming up.
00:26:58.320 | Well, here's the thing.
00:26:59.400 | Do I eat it or not eat it?
00:27:00.740 | According to verse 25 to 27,
00:27:04.440 | do I eat it or not eat it?
00:27:05.800 | (laughing)
00:27:08.040 | Huh?
00:27:10.880 | I don't know, what do you guys say?
00:27:12.320 | Do I eat it or not eat it?
00:27:13.680 | - It doesn't apply to your conscience.
00:27:15.320 | (laughing)
00:27:17.580 | - I don't know, what else do you guys think?
00:27:21.080 | You guys, should I eat it or not eat it,
00:27:23.680 | after reading all that?
00:27:25.040 | So I didn't, huh?
00:27:26.560 | Ruined it?
00:27:27.400 | I know, totally ruined it.
00:27:28.240 | Well, the other reason why that came up is because, yeah,
00:27:30.240 | the term actually is not just referring to food.
00:27:33.640 | Muslims will call certain things halal,
00:27:36.040 | as in, it's just lawful.
00:27:37.560 | So know that that's what the term means, okay?
00:27:40.840 | Yes?
00:27:41.680 | - Similar to kosher, Jewish people,
00:27:44.960 | this time of year, they have to kill the animals.
00:27:47.560 | - Uh-huh.
00:27:49.200 | Yeah, so kosher food also, you're right, is strict.
00:27:51.840 | - Less by the law.
00:27:53.000 | - Mm-hmm, yep.
00:27:54.800 | Kosher too is dietary restriction based on Jewish law.
00:27:59.560 | Okay?
00:28:00.400 | Man, kosher beef hot dogs are good though.
00:28:03.440 | (laughing)
00:28:09.080 | Okay, so any other thoughts?
00:28:11.120 | He's the only one with an opinion.
00:28:12.160 | Do I eat it or not eat it?
00:28:13.440 | You guys are all like, dude, it's coming,
00:28:16.680 | don't ruin this for us.
00:28:17.920 | (laughing)
00:28:19.360 | Okay, I ate it, all right?
00:28:20.760 | I ate it.
00:28:21.600 | (laughing)
00:28:22.960 | This was in the past and I just ate it, okay?
00:28:24.920 | And failed, yeah.
00:28:26.120 | (laughing)
00:28:27.400 | Okay, the reason why is because this is what I did.
00:28:32.320 | I asked the lady who worked there,
00:28:34.320 | oh, like, do you guys promote this, you know?
00:28:38.280 | And turned out the lady was Mediterranean
00:28:40.840 | and then the owner of the restaurant,
00:28:42.240 | you know, they just had that for people who came by.
00:28:45.640 | So the restaurant was more Mediterranean
00:28:48.720 | than it was Muslim.
00:28:50.880 | And in my mind, it's the whole idea
00:28:52.280 | of what does it identify with me?
00:28:54.680 | Wait, does that make sense?
00:28:55.520 | What does it?
00:28:56.600 | What does it identify me with?
00:28:58.560 | So for example, if the Halal guys opened this thing up
00:29:02.080 | and they said, oh, we wanted to make sure
00:29:04.440 | that we as a people who are Muslim have a restaurant.
00:29:07.880 | If they had like, you know, certain things
00:29:11.480 | on the restaurant where essentially
00:29:12.800 | they were promoting their religion and faith, right?
00:29:16.240 | And they were really advocating this as like,
00:29:18.680 | the success of our business is because Allah.
00:29:22.040 | And that's the whole thing, right?
00:29:24.520 | Then I would have had crazy conflict of conscience,
00:29:27.560 | I can't eat this.
00:29:28.440 | Because that was their intent, right?
00:29:32.240 | But then in front of me, it's just kebabs and like rice,
00:29:35.480 | you know?
00:29:36.320 | And the food was really good.
00:29:38.320 | So I don't know if you guys agree with me
00:29:40.000 | on this point or not, but the thing is,
00:29:42.160 | I said grace, I thank God for the food,
00:29:44.040 | and I ate it because that was my conscience before the Lord.
00:29:47.640 | Right?
00:29:48.640 | But if, again, the restaurant and what it stood
00:29:51.520 | as an institution was a promotion of who they were,
00:29:54.680 | and they were really like, hurrah, yeah,
00:29:56.680 | like we're succeeding in our business realm,
00:29:58.360 | we're gonna make a name for ourselves,
00:29:59.800 | and I can't.
00:30:01.480 | It's kind of a fine line, isn't it?
00:30:04.360 | Right?
00:30:05.200 | It's kind of a fine line.
00:30:06.840 | But the thing about it,
00:30:08.480 | if, again, if the restaurant was just about like,
00:30:12.480 | hey, we serve a bowl great for lunch, here it is.
00:30:14.760 | That's one thing.
00:30:15.960 | If the restaurant was more like, this is who we are,
00:30:17.960 | this is our identity, and this is why we make our food,
00:30:20.520 | that's a whole nother scenario.
00:30:22.480 | Any thoughts about that?
00:30:24.080 | Agree, disagree?
00:30:25.080 | Yes.
00:30:28.400 | - I could share kind of a related story really quickly.
00:30:32.760 | That we ended up kind of the other way.
00:30:35.200 | We went to this sporting event
00:30:36.800 | that had Santa Claus,
00:30:41.440 | a person dressed as Santa Claus,
00:30:43.040 | connected to the event, and in the name of the event.
00:30:47.240 | And we just went for the sports part.
00:30:49.000 | But somebody else pointed out to us that,
00:30:51.880 | well, you know, Santa Claus,
00:30:53.880 | that's not what Christmas is about.
00:30:55.880 | And it was clear that it really bothered them
00:30:58.120 | that we, it's not a Christian person,
00:30:59.680 | it really bothered them that we would go
00:31:01.160 | to this sporting event that was connected to Santa Claus,
00:31:03.480 | even though we try to keep Santa Claus
00:31:06.080 | far away from what we do at Christmas.
00:31:08.560 | So at first I was really annoyed,
00:31:11.080 | and my attitude was like, well, you know,
00:31:13.080 | if they have a problem with Santa Claus,
00:31:16.760 | if they wanna keep Santa Claus
00:31:18.400 | that far away from their Christmas,
00:31:19.600 | that's fine for them, but I should be able
00:31:21.720 | to still go to this event and enjoy it.
00:31:24.120 | And then I realized that this applies,
00:31:26.000 | that if my doing hurts their conscience,
00:31:29.640 | probably this passage means they shouldn't participate
00:31:33.240 | and it's causing problems for them.
00:31:35.840 | - Right, okay, good, thank you.
00:31:39.280 | So, I appreciate that.
00:31:41.560 | In me telling the story,
00:31:42.680 | so you kinda have different stories here.
00:31:45.400 | I'm actually not convincing you one way or the other.
00:31:48.640 | You guys have to make your own decisions about it.
00:31:50.560 | But here's the thing that I think
00:31:52.360 | is Apostle Paul's making a point here.
00:31:54.260 | Verse 25 to 27, he says, "Eat anything that is sold
00:31:57.960 | "in the meat marketplace without asking questions
00:32:00.900 | "for conscience' sake."
00:32:02.400 | Okay?
00:32:03.240 | So, there's an element to which,
00:32:06.200 | and I'm gonna talk about it a little bit more
00:32:08.840 | in the next section too,
00:32:09.680 | but there's an element to which,
00:32:11.600 | coming back to the idea of the whole
00:32:13.440 | don't ask, don't tell question,
00:32:15.480 | again, it's not that.
00:32:17.520 | But the fact of the matter is,
00:32:18.720 | he is stating the fact that there is a liberty for us
00:32:21.860 | because everything in the world is the Lord's.
00:32:24.840 | So, we have actually the freedom to eat it.
00:32:27.920 | Right?
00:32:29.160 | Yeah.
00:32:30.440 | So, that's actually one of his points here,
00:32:32.000 | is you have the freedom to eat it
00:32:33.240 | because everything in the world is the Lord's.
00:32:36.140 | But remember that the whole idea is
00:32:38.880 | that the other person's conscience can be involved.
00:32:43.600 | So, his point here is don't involve his conscience.
00:32:46.200 | Right?
00:32:48.980 | I don't know if that sounds weird to you guys,
00:32:50.440 | but that's what he's saying.
00:32:51.960 | Don't ask the question because don't involve his conscience.
00:32:55.400 | And the thing about it is,
00:32:56.400 | if you do involve his conscience,
00:32:57.920 | then you gotta be willing to decline
00:32:59.700 | the exercise of your freedom
00:33:01.440 | for the sake of that person's conscience.
00:33:04.600 | And that's when you are considering your neighbor.
00:33:06.840 | Right?
00:33:08.200 | But aside from that,
00:33:09.640 | we don't have to have legalistic standards,
00:33:11.400 | we don't have to have a law outside of the law of the Bible
00:33:13.960 | and say, I can't eat anything that says the law,
00:33:15.880 | I can't eat anything that says this,
00:33:17.160 | I can't eat anything.
00:33:18.040 | That would be quite a standard above and beyond
00:33:21.920 | what the Bible says.
00:33:23.400 | Okay?
00:33:24.400 | Now, if somebody in here said,
00:33:26.360 | yeah, but Pastor Mark,
00:33:28.160 | now that you've explained that
00:33:29.320 | and then there's a whole idea of invoking the name of Allah
00:33:32.720 | and all that kind of stuff,
00:33:34.560 | I don't wanna eat it.
00:33:36.160 | That's fine.
00:33:37.160 | You don't have to.
00:33:38.120 | If you just decide to say, yeah, I don't know.
00:33:41.760 | I'm gonna have to think about that more
00:33:43.040 | and until I think about it, I'm not gonna eat it.
00:33:45.400 | That's fine.
00:33:46.600 | So, I'm not gonna convince you one way or the other,
00:33:48.520 | but I believe the point of the passage is
00:33:50.640 | you do have a freedom because everything belongs to the Lord.
00:33:53.360 | Eat it.
00:33:54.600 | Okay?
00:33:55.920 | Okay, let's move forward to the next section.
00:33:58.920 | Verse 28 through verse 30.
00:34:01.120 | Can I please have, let's see.
00:34:04.240 | Diane Kim, can you please read verse 28 through verse 30?
00:34:10.520 | (audience member speaking)
00:34:15.980 | (audience member speaking)
00:34:19.560 | Okay.
00:34:32.400 | All right, so verse 28 through 30,
00:34:34.780 | I'm not gonna spend a whole lot of time,
00:34:37.020 | but there's a sense in which he flips back.
00:34:40.300 | Don't eat it.
00:34:41.300 | Okay?
00:34:42.140 | He says, if, if it so happens
00:34:44.220 | that someone's conscience against a brother or sister,
00:34:47.260 | their conscience is bothered,
00:34:48.780 | and they tell you, hey, you can't eat that
00:34:50.820 | because that means sacrifice to idols.
00:34:52.860 | He says, don't eat it for the sake of the conscience
00:34:55.940 | of the person who informed you.
00:34:58.260 | Right?
00:34:59.100 | He says, don't eat it.
00:35:00.260 | And then he makes sure, he says,
00:35:02.180 | I asked this question,
00:35:03.220 | so why is my freedom judged by another's conscience?
00:35:06.380 | And when I read that, I was a little confused.
00:35:09.340 | I was like, if I asked that question,
00:35:11.620 | why is my freedom judged by another man's conscience?
00:35:15.020 | I almost would take that as like, so I can't eat it.
00:35:18.080 | My conscience, you know, my freedom shouldn't be judged
00:35:20.660 | by another man's conscience.
00:35:22.860 | Okay?
00:35:23.700 | Well, I wanna ask you this question.
00:35:29.100 | What do you think the meaning of that is?
00:35:30.780 | What does it mean to have your freedom
00:35:32.380 | judged by another man's conscience?
00:35:34.440 | It's a bit confusing.
00:35:37.260 | He's saying don't eat,
00:35:38.780 | and he uses the question to support his statement.
00:35:42.780 | If someone brings it up to you, don't eat it.
00:35:45.360 | What does it mean then to have your freedom
00:35:48.660 | judged by another man's conscience?
00:35:50.460 | - Cynthia, I can't say it.
00:36:07.740 | - You don't wanna exercise your freedom
00:36:09.100 | in a way where someone whose conscience is bothered
00:36:12.700 | will have an opportunity to judge it
00:36:14.860 | and be bothered by your exercise of your own freedom.
00:36:18.020 | - Right, okay.
00:36:19.540 | So it's simply that.
00:36:20.380 | I mean, it's not so much more
00:36:21.540 | than perhaps what you might have guessed.
00:36:24.140 | I think what he's saying really is,
00:36:26.980 | in the exercise of your freedom,
00:36:28.740 | why exercise it in such a way
00:36:30.820 | where someone might accuse you of evil?
00:36:33.260 | So let me say that again.
00:36:36.340 | Why exercise your freedom in a way
00:36:38.100 | where someone might accuse you of doing evil?
00:36:41.580 | Remember back in Romans chapter 14,
00:36:44.660 | verse 16 through 17,
00:36:46.380 | I'm just gonna read it for us for the sake of time.
00:36:48.620 | He says, "Therefore, do not let what is for you
00:36:51.060 | "a good thing be spoken of as evil.
00:36:54.320 | "For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking,
00:36:56.320 | "but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."
00:36:59.720 | And what's interesting is even the term for judge,
00:37:04.120 | it's not kinda like judged as in judged against the Bible
00:37:08.980 | or all that kinda stuff.
00:37:10.660 | That term literally just means
00:37:12.260 | to come to a conclusion about.
00:37:14.100 | Okay, so someone's looking at you
00:37:16.060 | and they come to a conclusion like,
00:37:17.460 | huh, what that guy's doing is evil.
00:37:19.200 | It's not really like a legal term.
00:37:21.500 | The person who's looking at you
00:37:23.140 | just thinks of you as evil.
00:37:25.960 | Does that make sense?
00:37:28.660 | So here, Apostle Paul is calling us
00:37:31.000 | to a sense of wisdom, right?
00:37:33.980 | A sense of wisdom.
00:37:35.480 | A sense of wisdom is in my actions,
00:37:37.960 | is it going to lend for an opportunity
00:37:39.640 | for them to accuse me of evil?
00:37:41.740 | Or is it gonna lend to an opportunity for me
00:37:45.620 | to just, again, bolster their faith
00:37:49.320 | and the gospel message of salvation?
00:37:52.440 | Okay?
00:37:53.280 | Are there any questions about that section?
00:37:56.280 | All right, then let's move on to the last section.
00:38:00.340 | Verse 31 through chapter 11, verse one.
00:38:03.400 | And if I can have, Mel Wong, can you read that for us?
00:38:07.040 | - Excuse me, whether then you need for thanks
00:38:09.080 | or whatever you do, you will also be glorified.
00:38:11.560 | With no offense, I do you this,
00:38:13.040 | with the teaching of Jesus.
00:38:14.960 | Just as I also do you all, then,
00:38:16.200 | it is also in the past.
00:38:17.200 | Speaking my own prophet,
00:38:18.280 | let the prophet of the nations
00:38:19.680 | be the name you say to the imitators
00:38:21.480 | and the angels I have called.
00:38:23.560 | - Okay.
00:38:24.400 | This passage I bolded.
00:38:27.320 | This is a passage we should actually
00:38:30.520 | try to devote to memory.
00:38:32.480 | And this is a passage that all of us
00:38:34.560 | should try to keep rehearsing.
00:38:37.760 | I'm not sure if you guys see value in repetition,
00:38:42.440 | but for me, I have a horrible memory,
00:38:44.780 | and repetition is good.
00:38:47.040 | It helps me learn.
00:38:48.120 | And the thing about it is,
00:38:51.200 | he gives an overarching principle.
00:38:53.600 | He said, "Don't eat, eat, don't eat."
00:38:57.640 | And I almost feel like, gosh, that's confusing.
00:39:00.280 | Give me just one principle and let me do it, you know?
00:39:04.080 | But the fact of the matter is,
00:39:05.280 | he gives this now overarching consideration.
00:39:08.900 | And the overarching consideration is,
00:39:10.680 | whether then you eat or drink,
00:39:11.960 | or whatever you do,
00:39:13.400 | do all to the glory of God.
00:39:16.120 | So he asked this question,
00:39:17.480 | would Jesus eat it, you know?
00:39:19.300 | Would God, you know, be pleased in your eating?
00:39:24.160 | You're not eating.
00:39:25.080 | And so I left a blank there,
00:39:28.560 | next to the question of,
00:39:29.480 | what is the overarching principle?
00:39:31.320 | Now, obviously, the overarching principle is,
00:39:34.240 | whether you decide to eat or not eat,
00:39:36.200 | do it all to the glory of God, right?
00:39:39.040 | Do it all to the glory of God.
00:39:42.160 | But to the blank next to that,
00:39:46.280 | please write in there,
00:39:47.740 | that is a life purpose statement.
00:39:50.760 | Did I leave enough room for that?
00:39:52.080 | Life purpose statement.
00:39:54.100 | Okay?
00:39:57.440 | Do you guys have life purpose statements?
00:40:00.160 | Do you guys have things that like,
00:40:04.080 | you know, in the moment where you're like,
00:40:05.560 | I don't know what to do,
00:40:07.600 | do you guys have a principle that will help you decide?
00:40:10.400 | Do you guys have something that's going to keep you in line
00:40:14.380 | with what should be the measure of success in your life?
00:40:17.700 | I think this one,
00:40:20.440 | although it's probably the broadest one of all the Bible,
00:40:23.680 | is something that we should really rehearse and memorize.
00:40:26.540 | This life purpose statement, right?
00:40:29.760 | That we need to do all things to the glory of God.
00:40:32.200 | So, actually, it matters incredibly a lot
00:40:35.760 | why you do what you do.
00:40:37.440 | It actually matters why you end up eating,
00:40:40.120 | and it matters even so why you end up not eating.
00:40:43.200 | Right?
00:40:45.120 | So there isn't a blanket statement here,
00:40:47.600 | in this scenario, do this, in this scenario, do that,
00:40:49.680 | in this scenario, do this, and in this scenario, do that.
00:40:52.500 | Although that can be very confusing,
00:40:53.920 | there isn't a blanket statement for that.
00:40:57.440 | It's in that scenario,
00:40:59.840 | what is going to be most glorifying to the Lord?
00:41:02.240 | Right?
00:41:04.120 | And I asked you a moment ago,
00:41:08.040 | or at the beginning of the study,
00:41:10.200 | when you think about what is most glorifying to God,
00:41:13.640 | what do you think about?
00:41:16.560 | And I want you guys to share just a couple of those things.
00:41:19.040 | Do I have any volunteers as to answer?
00:41:21.000 | When you guys talked about what do you think
00:41:22.640 | is most glorifying to the Lord,
00:41:24.720 | what did you guys mention?
00:41:26.040 | - Evangelism.
00:41:38.720 | - Evangelism, okay.
00:41:41.320 | Anything else?
00:41:42.200 | Yes.
00:41:47.880 | - Faith expressed through obedience,
00:41:50.520 | prayer, dependence, and stuff like that.
00:41:54.920 | (laughing)
00:41:56.080 | - And stuff like that, yeah.
00:41:57.520 | Faith, obedience, dependence on God, prayer.
00:42:01.200 | Okay, anything else?
00:42:02.240 | Yeah, I mean, with Apostle Paul,
00:42:13.880 | I love the fact that we get a glimpse
00:42:15.560 | into his mind frame, how he thinks, you know?
00:42:19.800 | And he's just so goal-driven,
00:42:22.000 | and he's so, like, in many ways, purpose-driven, you know?
00:42:27.000 | And his purpose is so set on glorifying God,
00:42:29.520 | but he has quite a clear vision
00:42:31.280 | as to what is most glorifying to God.
00:42:34.640 | And if you remember back in chapter nine, right?
00:42:38.040 | Let me see here.
00:42:41.120 | Oops, I'm in Romans, that's why I'm like, what is this?
00:42:43.840 | Remember back in chapter nine, verse 22 to 23?
00:42:48.600 | Back in chapter nine, verse 22 to 23.
00:42:51.480 | To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak.
00:42:54.080 | I have become all things to all men,
00:42:55.840 | so that I may by all means save some.
00:43:00.120 | I do all things for the sake of the gospel,
00:43:03.080 | so that I may become a fellow partaker of it.
00:43:06.040 | He sees as so precious, so valuable,
00:43:11.040 | the salvation of souls,
00:43:13.080 | that he would dare not put any stumbling block, right?
00:43:17.880 | To see an individual go from the kingdom of darkness
00:43:22.160 | to the kingdom of light,
00:43:24.080 | to see an individual go from orphan child
00:43:26.440 | to daughter and son of God,
00:43:29.540 | to see an individual as those who are slaves of their sins,
00:43:32.520 | to slaves of righteousness,
00:43:34.280 | to see an individual who had no God in the world
00:43:39.640 | to go to now giving thanks with their mouths
00:43:41.880 | to the Lord of heaven,
00:43:43.360 | he sees nothing else that would be a greater honor to God.
00:43:46.560 | Right?
00:43:47.720 | And so Apostle Paul has as his great ambition
00:43:50.480 | to make sure that they might be saved.
00:43:53.680 | So he ends it right at the end,
00:43:55.120 | where in verse 33,
00:43:56.560 | just as I also please all men in all things,
00:43:59.520 | not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many,
00:44:02.200 | so that they may be saved.
00:44:06.240 | Genuinely saved.
00:44:07.680 | And again, just love that kind of passionate,
00:44:12.320 | bold, focused, intentional,
00:44:16.160 | very driven life that desires to seek
00:44:18.800 | the salvation of the lost.
00:44:20.280 | I want us to think about that a little bit is,
00:44:23.760 | for us, when we think about the glory of God,
00:44:28.240 | giving him honor, giving him praise,
00:44:31.320 | what are we thinking?
00:44:32.720 | And all the things that you guys mentioned, it's right.
00:44:35.640 | We give glory when we reflect God's nature,
00:44:37.980 | we give glory when we show him to be a sufficient provider,
00:44:41.720 | we give him glory when we show his answer of prayer,
00:44:45.600 | we give him glory when we ourselves are thankful
00:44:48.080 | for his gospel, and all that kind of stuff.
00:44:50.240 | But in this passage, at least,
00:44:53.080 | he's really thinking about the glory of God
00:44:55.120 | when it comes down to those who'd be saved by the gospel.
00:44:59.040 | Right?
00:44:59.880 | Those who'd be saved by the gospel.
00:45:02.000 | Now by way of concluding and wrapping up,
00:45:04.040 | I really think that this passage, in my mind,
00:45:08.040 | is a question of those who not only discern
00:45:11.260 | between right and wrong,
00:45:12.500 | but those who discern what is best.
00:45:15.320 | What is most mature.
00:45:17.240 | You know, the benefit of having a veteran on your team,
00:45:22.160 | let's say you're playing football, and you have a veteran,
00:45:25.400 | a lot of the game of football,
00:45:26.940 | you have to react instantaneously.
00:45:28.920 | If you guys ever played defense on football,
00:45:31.360 | if you guys played anything, you have to just react.
00:45:33.360 | You're looking at the quarterback's eyes,
00:45:34.960 | you're looking at formation, and you just have to react.
00:45:37.640 | The great thing about having a veteran
00:45:39.920 | is that through experience, they know what to do.
00:45:44.660 | I mean, a coach can sit there telling a rookie,
00:45:49.660 | okay, if the quarterback throws deep, you do this.
00:45:53.580 | If the quarterback starts to pass off, you do this.
00:45:56.180 | But given all those different conditions,
00:45:58.820 | the rookie would sit there and be like,
00:46:00.380 | is it now, like, for right now, do I do this?
00:46:02.660 | You see what I'm saying?
00:46:04.420 | And so in my mind, when I think about Apostle Paul,
00:46:08.060 | he's a veteran.
00:46:08.900 | And he's looking at the scenario,
00:46:11.040 | and then trying to teach the Church of Corinth,
00:46:12.620 | like, when you see the faith of the other people,
00:46:15.660 | you ought to be thinking like this.
00:46:18.960 | When you see what idolatry is, and what it represents,
00:46:23.620 | you ought to be thinking like this.
00:46:25.620 | When it comes to your own conscience,
00:46:26.740 | you should be thinking like this.
00:46:27.660 | So he's giving, yes, all these conditional statements,
00:46:30.060 | but he gives them the overarching priority, right?
00:46:33.820 | The overarching priority is that you glorify God
00:46:36.120 | and honor Him in this.
00:46:38.060 | And we, if we are to mature,
00:46:40.380 | we need to do that with practice.
00:46:43.060 | So you guys ask good questions.
00:46:44.780 | In this scenario, what's most honoring to God?
00:46:47.220 | In this scenario, what's really going to magnify the Gospel?
00:46:50.220 | In this scenario, what's really going to glorify our Maker?
00:46:54.060 | Okay?
00:46:55.300 | All right.
00:46:56.580 | Let's take a moment to pray.
00:46:57.980 | Father God, we wanna thank you.
00:47:03.020 | Lord, we get a glimpse into the kind of focus
00:47:08.580 | that Apostle Paul has.
00:47:10.860 | And in many ways, he's trying to impart his focus
00:47:13.860 | upon the church, and calling them to follow him
00:47:17.940 | as he's laid a pattern of willing self-sacrifice
00:47:21.380 | and self-restraint for the benefit of the rest.
00:47:24.860 | And I pray, Father God, that we as a church
00:47:26.980 | would continue to mature.
00:47:28.740 | God, help us never to be a people who simply insist
00:47:31.620 | on our own rights, our own benefits, and our own securities.
00:47:36.020 | But rather, God, help us to really follow the footsteps
00:47:39.260 | of our Savior, Jesus Christ, who condescended,
00:47:42.580 | who sacrificed, and who really gave up much
00:47:45.620 | so that those who would come to salvation would benefit,
00:47:48.300 | and that he would lead many brothers into God's glory.
00:47:51.780 | I pray, Lord, that you would give us
00:47:53.020 | that same kind of vision, the same kind of purpose
00:47:55.060 | and motivation in our lives.
00:47:57.020 | Father Lord, we do pray for every single person here.
00:47:59.700 | God, many of us live lives that are very busy.
00:48:05.340 | God, we have work that consumes a lot of our energy,
00:48:08.740 | our time, and our focus.
00:48:10.620 | Help us, Father God, to persevere past that,
00:48:14.020 | to persevere past fatigue, to persevere past distraction,
00:48:18.020 | and sometimes feeling unmotivated
00:48:19.780 | because our energy is sapped.
00:48:21.620 | I pray, rather, God, that you would encourage us
00:48:23.460 | all the more with the energy that we have.
00:48:26.260 | Help us to honor you.
00:48:27.660 | Whatever we can afford, help us to glorify you.
00:48:30.660 | And if you would see fit, and by your grace,
00:48:33.920 | give us the mercy of being used as your tool
00:48:37.340 | to share the gospel, and have the pure joy
00:48:40.180 | of seeing somebody, have the joy of Christ by being saved.
00:48:43.900 | I pray, Father God, that by all means would you use us.
00:48:47.620 | Lord, we wanna thank you again in Saint Christ's name.
00:48:49.860 | Amen.
00:48:51.140 | Okay.
00:48:51.980 | If you guys would jot down, I realized,
00:48:54.540 | and I didn't have the discussion questions
00:48:56.300 | written on your thing, but I wrote it in my teaching notes.
00:49:02.840 | I've just basically asked the question,
00:49:04.880 | what are some real life scenarios
00:49:06.840 | where we can decline our liberty?
00:49:08.480 | So just what are some real life scenarios
00:49:11.880 | that we can decline our own liberties?
00:49:14.340 | Second, I just mentioned it, but practically,
00:49:19.240 | how can we give more glory to God,
00:49:22.140 | and keep that as our purpose in life?
00:49:25.160 | How can we give more glory to God,
00:49:27.040 | and keep that as a purpose for our lives?
00:49:31.280 | But also, what tangible ways can we
00:49:33.960 | actively seek the benefit of others?
00:49:36.240 | What tangible ways can we actively
00:49:38.840 | seek the benefit of others?
00:49:40.440 | Okay.
00:49:42.500 | So those are just some questions.
00:49:43.840 | If you guys have any other points of conviction,
00:49:46.640 | or applications you guys wanna share, you guys can do that.
00:49:49.240 | So hope you guys have a good time of discussion, okay?
00:49:52.400 | All right, thanks everyone.