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2015-09-24 Study of 1 Corinthians Part 2 - Week 8


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00:00:00.000 | Alright, well we'll get started you guys.
00:00:12.360 | We're actually studying today in depth until verse 22.
00:00:20.520 | I had notes up until 31 but it's just kind of too much to cover at one time.
00:00:27.400 | So I want to, there's a bunch of announcements happening but a couple ones I want to highlight
00:00:34.320 | is that this coming Saturday we have the Sisters Fellowship and then the weekend after is our
00:00:41.520 | membership meeting.
00:00:42.940 | So if you guys know that you can't make it to the membership meeting, please make sure
00:00:46.320 | to email us.
00:00:48.720 | Also that week happens to be communion and I want to just mention today's passage has
00:00:53.760 | a little bit to do with communion.
00:00:55.640 | It's important time for the entire church to just kind of reflect, to focus, to remember
00:01:01.240 | more than anything and then to celebrate God's return, Christ's return.
00:01:05.640 | So please take time to prepare for that.
00:01:08.400 | Also again in the month of October we have lots of stuff, bigger events happening.
00:01:14.240 | Sports day is happening, we have couples retreat and then we have Reformation Night.
00:01:18.680 | If you guys want to volunteer for any of this stuff, please make sure just to email me and
00:01:22.240 | I'll direct you in the right way.
00:01:24.360 | Okay?
00:01:25.360 | Cool.
00:01:26.360 | Alright, well that being said, let's open up our Bibles to 1 Corinthians 10.
00:01:39.480 | And we've already been in the book of 1 Corinthians for some time and again I've loved it because
00:01:45.440 | there's a sense in which by hitting some of the major things that the church struggles
00:01:49.680 | with, Paul is calling for maturity.
00:01:55.480 | Can you believe we're already into week 19 of studying 1 Corinthians?
00:02:01.080 | Let's take a look starting from verse 14, I'm just going to read it since the paragraph
00:02:04.080 | begins there and then go to verse 22.
00:02:07.280 | And it says, "Therefore my beloved, flee from idolatry.
00:02:11.960 | I speak as to wise men, you judge what I say.
00:02:15.440 | Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ?
00:02:21.280 | Is not the bread which we break a sharing in the body of Christ?
00:02:26.160 | Since there is one bread, we who are many are one body.
00:02:29.580 | For we all partake of the one bread.
00:02:32.000 | Look at the nation Israel.
00:02:33.880 | Are not those who eat the sacrifices a share in the altar?
00:02:38.080 | What do I mean then?
00:02:39.080 | That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything?
00:02:42.240 | Or that an idol is anything?
00:02:44.040 | No.
00:02:45.240 | But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not
00:02:49.520 | to God.
00:02:50.640 | And I want you to become, I do not want you to become sharers in demons.
00:02:55.760 | You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons.
00:02:59.200 | You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.
00:03:02.840 | Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy?
00:03:05.760 | We are not stronger than he, are we?
00:03:08.320 | All right, let's take a moment to pray that God will bless the study of his word.
00:03:13.680 | Father God, we do pray.
00:03:16.400 | Lord, each time we open up, we pray that there would be a spiritual work done.
00:03:22.240 | God, I pray that this, it would not simply be an accumulation of knowledge, but God,
00:03:27.800 | that there would be true fruit of the spirit, which leads to conviction of righteousness,
00:03:33.200 | of holiness, of sin, which leads to greater love and dedication to you.
00:03:38.440 | And I pray God that again, your spirit would go before us tonight as we study.
00:03:43.000 | And I pray God that our hearts would be attentive.
00:03:45.040 | It's in Christ name we pray, amen.
00:03:48.760 | Okay, well, jumping straight into the lesson for today, we take a look at verse 14 through
00:03:55.360 | 15.
00:03:57.640 | And I want to ask you guys, in taking a look at that, what do you see as Apostle Paul's
00:04:06.640 | expectation?
00:04:09.640 | Expectation or shins?
00:04:18.960 | That the listeners be wise?
00:04:20.760 | Okay, good.
00:04:23.000 | So Apostle Paul expects that the people he is talking to, that they be wise enough.
00:04:30.840 | Okay?
00:04:31.840 | And it's been quite interesting because he's been frustrated with their wisdom and discernment.
00:04:37.640 | And he says, I expect you to be discerning enough.
00:04:41.200 | Okay?
00:04:42.200 | Any other expectation that you see?
00:04:45.760 | Okay, to follow his argument and his train of reasoning, it kind of comes out as like,
00:04:55.240 | so I'm speaking to you in this way, you need to judge what I'm saying.
00:04:59.560 | Like follow what I'm saying, like get it, you know?
00:05:03.040 | And I find that quite interesting as he's talking to them.
00:05:05.400 | And let me take a moment to think about that with you guys for a moment is, you know, he's
00:05:13.440 | making an argument now, but realize that his argument has been building since the beginning
00:05:19.080 | of the letter, right?
00:05:21.360 | His argument has been building from the beginning of the letter where he began saying, look,
00:05:25.280 | you guys are believers and I thank God for you, every single one of you.
00:05:30.800 | And I, and he essentially has a warm fatherly attitude towards everybody in the church.
00:05:37.360 | But then as he's writing to them, he starts building this argument about how they need
00:05:41.440 | to be humble, how they need to be united and essentially mature in every single way you
00:05:46.600 | can think of and purity and everything, you know?
00:05:50.380 | But he comes back to this point as he's talking to them is, I want you to be wise enough and
00:05:55.840 | I expect you to be discerning enough.
00:05:58.680 | If you are Christian, you need to get what I'm saying.
00:06:02.360 | And earlier I mentioned that I love this book because it really is a call to maturity.
00:06:10.120 | I find that perhaps there is a frustration in him saying like, you guys don't get it,
00:06:17.400 | but I expect you to get it.
00:06:19.960 | But perhaps it's because there is this gap here where the people are still arguing on
00:06:25.800 | the level of like what's right and wrong, right?
00:06:29.200 | But Apostle Paul is arguing on the level of be discerning and wise.
00:06:34.560 | Okay?
00:06:35.760 | So you can imagine when there's somebody who is a Christian and he's learning, and he's
00:06:41.680 | learning principles and truth, he could be pointing at a very specific passage and saying,
00:06:47.160 | look it, that's what it says.
00:06:48.800 | This is the truth.
00:06:49.800 | Look here.
00:06:51.040 | But the whole time Apostle Paul is saying, look here.
00:06:55.600 | I see your argument, but look here, I'm pointing towards greater maturity.
00:07:00.800 | He expects them to be wise.
00:07:02.240 | He expects them to exercise their judgment and discernment as to what he is saying.
00:07:06.920 | Okay?
00:07:07.920 | And today as I was studying this passage, I want you to think about that.
00:07:13.920 | There is a difference between just deciding what's right, acceptable, okay?
00:07:19.580 | As opposed to what's wise, which mature.
00:07:23.280 | Okay?
00:07:24.280 | All right.
00:07:26.040 | But what's the other expectation in the form of a clear command?
00:07:30.080 | You're expected to recognize and flee from idolatry.
00:07:36.600 | Excellent.
00:07:37.600 | I like how he put it.
00:07:39.560 | Both recognize and flee from the idols.
00:07:43.760 | Okay?
00:07:44.760 | I remember I used to say something to the extent of like, in the Bible, you know, the
00:07:48.520 | only sin that God tells us flee is sexual immorality.
00:07:51.880 | And I was studying this passage, I was like, God, I wonder why I said that.
00:07:55.480 | Because here it says flee from idolatry.
00:07:58.840 | So there's multiple places where he says flee.
00:08:01.880 | And I want you guys to just think about that for a moment.
00:08:05.000 | Because to flee, obviously, is quite an intense word.
00:08:09.040 | You know?
00:08:10.040 | You think about various things he wants you to overcome, be victorious, be overcomers,
00:08:14.440 | you know?
00:08:15.440 | And then it's like, flee!
00:08:17.120 | Just run!
00:08:18.120 | And you've got to ask the question, like, how severe and how perhaps, again, how severe
00:08:25.000 | he sees this problem and the ramifications of it, right?
00:08:29.400 | So these are his expectations for us, the clear command for us to flee what is idolatry.
00:08:36.360 | What's really interesting to me is it's so emphatic that he just places it at the front
00:08:41.040 | and then he's going to give us reasons why.
00:08:44.400 | I asked you guys to outline the passage.
00:08:47.920 | The outlining of the passage to me really is this command, flee, is at the top.
00:08:54.000 | Boom.
00:08:55.200 | And then the various sections that come after, including sections like 16, or verse 16 through
00:09:01.720 | 18, verse 19 to 21, verse 22, and then even further on, verse 22 down to whatever, these
00:09:08.680 | are reasons why you need to flee.
00:09:11.320 | Okay?
00:09:12.840 | He's giving us the reason, he's giving us the points.
00:09:16.760 | Here's premise one, premise two, premise three, therefore flee is one way to do it.
00:09:21.200 | The other way to do it is run!
00:09:23.480 | And then tell you why.
00:09:24.480 | Okay?
00:09:25.480 | And so you've got to ask the question, in Apostle Paul's mind, how severe does he see
00:09:31.000 | the sin of idolatry?
00:09:33.000 | Okay?
00:09:34.000 | Well, let's move forward then.
00:09:36.120 | What's one of the first reasons why Apostle Paul gives as to why we need to flee idolatry?
00:09:42.240 | Can I have, whose back of the head am I looking at there?
00:09:46.480 | Is that Randall?
00:09:47.880 | Can you read nicely for us, verse 16 through 18?
00:09:48.880 | It's not the color of the sea which is the best insurance for the human race.
00:09:49.880 | It's not the birth history that we should regret sharing with all of the rest.
00:09:50.880 | Since there is no birth, we need to learn about it.
00:09:51.880 | So we don't have to take that risk.
00:09:52.880 | But, look at the issue here.
00:09:53.880 | A lot of girls who leave us are sick.
00:10:20.040 | The second question is, seriously, what's the answer?
00:10:21.040 | Okay, thank you.
00:10:22.040 | So, I'm going to ask you for a huge favor.
00:10:24.320 | Would you mind closing the doors in the back for us?
00:10:26.320 | I can hear the airplanes and stuff.
00:10:28.360 | I opened it all up because when I got in here, it was all like warm and, you know, in the
00:10:32.280 | room.
00:10:33.280 | Thank you.
00:10:34.280 | All right.
00:10:35.280 | So as you take a look at that passage, let's first do a quick observation.
00:10:40.280 | So just throw it out to me, you guys, what you see, and then we're going to do a what's
00:10:43.360 | the point.
00:10:44.360 | Okay?
00:10:45.360 | So first question is, can you just list the different references that he's pointing out
00:10:50.280 | here?
00:10:51.280 | Or the things that he's pointing to to make his argument.
00:10:57.160 | He lists the cup of blessing, and then he lists the bread, and then the?
00:11:09.120 | Okay.
00:11:11.400 | Actually, in order to help you put the list together, let's put them, like put the things
00:11:17.400 | together.
00:11:18.400 | So the cup of blessing, and then the blood, bread, and then the body.
00:11:23.800 | And then there's the, someone said it here, sacrifices that attaches to the altar.
00:11:33.640 | Okay, great.
00:11:35.480 | So what you see is he's got these reference points.
00:11:38.000 | Okay?
00:11:39.000 | He's like, hey, don't we have this cup of blessing?
00:11:41.680 | Share in the blood of Christ.
00:11:42.680 | Don't we have this bread?
00:11:43.680 | Share in the body of Christ.
00:11:44.680 | Don't we have the sacrifices?
00:11:45.680 | Share in the altar.
00:11:46.680 | All right.
00:11:47.680 | So, okay, you've just listed three various things.
00:11:52.160 | What's the point?
00:11:53.160 | The sharing in Christ.
00:11:56.160 | Okay, good.
00:11:59.800 | So with each element, what you have is a sharing of Christ.
00:12:07.280 | Well, the first two is very clear.
00:12:10.760 | We have the communion table.
00:12:13.440 | And those of you guys who recently went through BCC, or if you guys remember, in BCC class,
00:12:19.360 | I go down in week seven, this whole list of what the communion represents, right?
00:12:24.360 | And I go down the whole list of talking about how in the Old Testament, blood represented
00:12:30.200 | life.
00:12:37.160 | The blood represented life.
00:12:39.520 | And the thing about it is, in so taking part of that blood, you're saying, this is Christ's
00:12:44.080 | blood shed for me.
00:12:45.080 | That's his life shed for me.
00:12:46.600 | And so when you take part of that blood, the life of Christ, right?
00:12:50.440 | Likewise, the bread is the same thing, is the life of Christ.
00:12:53.320 | And then what's furthermore, the bread represents the body of Christ.
00:12:55.920 | You're literally taking part in Christ, in the person of Christ, right?
00:13:01.040 | And so when you do that act of communion, you're remembering everything that is of Christ.
00:13:05.760 | When you take that communion, it's like, you know, looking at a perfect picture.
00:13:10.640 | Sometimes you know, we look at certain photos on Facebook, you look at photos on your wall,
00:13:14.120 | and you sometimes sit there mesmerizing or reflecting, remembering whatever it is, right?
00:13:19.640 | It causes you to feel the emotions and all that kind of stuff.
00:13:23.240 | That's what communion is a picture of.
00:13:24.920 | It's just reminding you, Christ, who he is, what he's done, how he's coming back, all
00:13:31.720 | of that, right?
00:13:34.540 | But his point is that by doing the communion, which is the picture, you share in it.
00:13:44.560 | So if you guys would jot this down as a note, what's really interesting is the repeated
00:13:50.800 | term is that concept of sharing.
00:13:54.400 | Sharing in the blood of Christ, sharing in the body of Christ, partake of the one bread,
00:13:59.000 | share is in the altar.
00:14:01.520 | That's his point.
00:14:03.720 | And what's really interesting about that is the words for sharing is the word koinonia.
00:14:11.880 | It's the word koinonia.
00:14:12.880 | Jot that down as a note.
00:14:14.360 | And you guys have heard that term before.
00:14:15.760 | You know, it's like, come on guys, let's have real koinonia, you know?
00:14:21.160 | And what they're saying is like, let's have real fellowship.
00:14:23.720 | Let's really be one, united in the right thing.
00:14:27.200 | And other pastors of the Bible use koinonia to say you are a partaker, like a participant,
00:14:32.080 | two partners joined together to accomplish something.
00:14:35.960 | Okay?
00:14:37.800 | So Apostle Paul is making the point, look, when you do something, you are a share in
00:14:44.640 | what it represents.
00:14:46.680 | You're a part of that.
00:14:48.320 | That's your fellowship.
00:14:49.320 | That's you partaking of that.
00:14:52.820 | And so how does that connect with his argument?
00:14:55.480 | Well, he just said, flee from idolatry.
00:14:58.920 | Right?
00:15:00.500 | Because there's a sense in which then spiritually, if you allow yourself to haphazardly do the
00:15:05.960 | stuff that's associated with idolatry, what are you doing?
00:15:10.240 | You're joining yourself.
00:15:12.320 | Right?
00:15:13.800 | And so let's think about kind of a summary to that point then.
00:15:18.640 | You know?
00:15:20.360 | To that segment in which Apostle Paul is pointing out to us, you need to flee from idolatry.
00:15:24.840 | But the first point Apostle Paul is making is because look, in everything you do, you
00:15:29.760 | are fellowshipping.
00:15:33.720 | So my exhortation would be, pick the right fellowship.
00:15:46.200 | If you were to think about, you know, an instance where you, you know, have one group versus
00:15:55.160 | another, one posse versus another, even in, you know, just this morning we were out on
00:16:01.840 | Ring Road and it was funny because we were passing out Berean flyers, but then I walked
00:16:07.640 | over to our table and we had all these different club flyers, you know, like double ACF flyers,
00:16:13.280 | CCM flyers, other campus ministry flyers on our Berean table.
00:16:18.120 | And what was hilarious was one of the students, as soon as they saw me, they were like, "Oh
00:16:23.560 | shoot!"
00:16:24.560 | And they just laughed, you know, because there's, you know, like in the mentality is like, "I'm
00:16:28.680 | supposed to be promoting Berean, what are you doing with that flyer?"
00:16:31.040 | You know?
00:16:32.040 | Well, amongst Christians, I say, "Hey, we're all believers and I'm okay with you passing
00:16:35.480 | out those other flyers."
00:16:37.360 | But I just use that as an example to say, imagine, I mean, if we were two competing
00:16:41.000 | fellowships, you would be like, "What the, why would you even promote that?"
00:16:46.160 | You know?
00:16:47.160 | In like vein, do we recognize that when whatever we're doing, there's a sense in which we are
00:16:54.040 | joining in fellowship with it.
00:16:57.280 | And when I said earlier, as an exhortation, "Pick the right fellowship," there's a sense
00:17:01.800 | in which not only do you need to pick the right fellowship, but you got to look like
00:17:05.480 | you belong.
00:17:06.480 | You can't straddle the fence of belonging to this club and that club, you can't have
00:17:11.040 | an identity crisis, "I want to be a part of this, I want to be a part of that."
00:17:13.920 | There's a sense in which, no, Apostle Paul expects a mature individual to fully belong
00:17:19.480 | to that fellowship.
00:17:22.560 | And you guys know where that's leading, because later on he's going to say very, very explicitly,
00:17:27.960 | you can't be a part of both.
00:17:30.360 | Right?
00:17:31.360 | Okay.
00:17:32.360 | Moving forward then, to verses 19 through 21.
00:17:38.600 | Can I have, KJ, can you read that please?
00:17:43.200 | "What do I mean then?
00:17:52.880 | They think sacrifice idles a thing in things, but I idle a thing in things.
00:18:03.880 | Know that I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, is sacrifice of demons
00:18:04.880 | and not to God.
00:18:05.880 | And I do not want you to become sharers of demons.
00:18:06.880 | You cannot drink the cup of the Lord because of demons.
00:18:07.880 | Do not partake of this table, the Lord and the table of demons."
00:18:08.880 | Okay.
00:18:09.880 | So, there we have it.
00:18:10.880 | The exhortation that we were just anticipating.
00:18:14.120 | And in verse 19 to 21, he essentially kind of builds on the last point, look, we're partakers
00:18:19.320 | and sharers in it, so what do I mean?
00:18:22.440 | And then he starts to clarify that a thing sacrificed to idles is anything, or that an
00:18:27.720 | idol itself is anything.
00:18:29.760 | So picture again, please, the scenario that I brought up, starting from chapter eight.
00:18:35.840 | Back in that culture, idolatry was rampant.
00:18:38.840 | If you guys have ever visited certain other nations and other countries, especially places
00:18:43.680 | like let's say Thailand or India, where you have like a plethora of like idols everywhere,
00:18:50.920 | whether it be little Buddhas, whether it be little icons and all that kind of stuff.
00:18:55.560 | Just imagine that, you know, back then you'd have all these different figurines and no
00:19:00.280 | matter what kind of social environment you went to, there was always some kind of element
00:19:04.840 | of that idolatry in there.
00:19:06.960 | And even to this day, every time I go to like certain restaurants and I see like a big old
00:19:11.640 | Buddha in the front, it always makes me feel like, I don't know, I don't know, you know?
00:19:17.320 | But the thing about it is, I want you to just picture that kind of scenario.
00:19:20.940 | And remember that the scenario is, Apostle Paul initially said, look, we know that first
00:19:27.040 | there is the food that you're eating and you're wondering was that sacrifice to idols?
00:19:31.280 | And then there's the idol itself.
00:19:33.180 | We know that's nothing, okay?
00:19:35.320 | We know that's nothing.
00:19:36.320 | But here and now he's giving the exhortation, but do you need to flee?
00:19:40.400 | Okay?
00:19:41.400 | So how do we reconcile that?
00:19:43.880 | Well, he repeats this idea again that a thing sacrificed to idols, is it anything?
00:19:48.280 | And he says, no, it's not.
00:19:50.600 | Well, I've got this little table for you and it's an easy question, but I just want you
00:19:56.000 | to like, I want to highlight a point here.
00:19:58.840 | So I want you to just, you know, bear with me on this.
00:20:02.000 | You've got on one side cup, bread, idol, and you got on the right side, blood, body, false
00:20:06.640 | God.
00:20:08.080 | What's the relationship from column A to column B?
00:20:17.680 | Thank you.
00:20:18.680 | Representation.
00:20:19.680 | It's representation.
00:20:23.760 | And I want you guys to just think about that for a moment and just kind of think through
00:20:30.320 | what that is, right?
00:20:33.800 | Behind the food and behind the idol, literally it's just a piece of wood.
00:20:37.920 | It's no holier, no special than let's say this pulpit made of wood, right?
00:20:43.360 | That's literal spiritual reality.
00:20:46.920 | But where it starts to really count is the representation.
00:20:50.480 | And so there's a sense in which even for us, what's weird is there's a dual element of
00:20:54.760 | when we do certain ordinances like baptism that we just had.
00:20:58.920 | So Peter typically says like, this doesn't really do anything.
00:21:02.760 | But then there would be a question then of like, then what's the point of doing it?
00:21:06.080 | Why would we have all our members think deeply about getting baptized and not only get baptized,
00:21:11.240 | but get baptized in the right mode, right?
00:21:15.680 | And the importance lies in what it represents.
00:21:19.000 | Okay?
00:21:20.080 | And this is the point to which I want to, I want to really like push and emphasize to
00:21:25.000 | you because it's so important.
00:21:27.120 | Remember earlier how I talked about how apostle Paul was frustrated because although the Corinthians
00:21:31.880 | church, they're Christians and some of them might've been Christians for some time, some
00:21:35.280 | of them are obviously newer believers.
00:21:38.280 | They're arguing with him like, look at this Bible verse, look at this truth.
00:21:42.560 | It's not wrong.
00:21:44.960 | But apostle Paul is saying, I see that, but I want you to look here to ask, is it mature?
00:21:51.840 | And this is one of the points to which that point of maturity really comes into the forefront.
00:21:59.520 | Because for us as Christians, we need to represent, right?
00:22:05.040 | In what we do, we need to reveal, manifest.
00:22:09.320 | We need to witness, we need to bear light.
00:22:12.420 | And so in doing that, there isn't a bare minimum.
00:22:15.320 | There isn't a line, just do this, this and this, and now you're represented.
00:22:19.260 | Do whatever you want with your freedom next.
00:22:21.200 | Apostle Paul, his mentality is we need to represent.
00:22:26.440 | So in all you do, whether you eat or drink, do all to the glory of God.
00:22:32.100 | So there isn't a line for apostle Paul.
00:22:34.280 | You see that?
00:22:35.280 | And so there's this, still sitting here, but look, it's not wrong.
00:22:38.160 | Apostle Paul is like, you're still looking at a point.
00:22:41.760 | Get your eyes off of that.
00:22:44.800 | Apostle Paul expects the church to mature way beyond that, to identify when you do what
00:22:50.880 | you do, what does it represent?
00:22:55.680 | That's an important question, right?
00:22:59.440 | And so that's why he might make the point, hey look, these idols really, really are nothing.
00:23:06.460 | But in maturity, you need to see beyond that.
00:23:10.320 | So if in maturity you need to see beyond that, there is like rampant idolatry where literally
00:23:17.480 | you're bowing to a God and saying, you're my God.
00:23:21.980 | But this is where the question comes in.
00:23:23.480 | What other idolatrous things are there?
00:23:26.920 | What other forms, in the definition of idolatry, what other concepts have you seen in scripture?
00:23:32.720 | If you guys want to volunteer and just list some of those.
00:23:38.440 | What other things categorize as idolatry in the scriptures?
00:23:43.280 | Oh yeah, coveting.
00:23:49.480 | When you're coveting in your heart, what else?
00:23:59.680 | Relying on other things.
00:24:00.680 | Relying on other things.
00:24:01.680 | And that idea, both those concepts encompass a lot of stuff, right?
00:24:05.760 | When you're coveting, you're like, you know, you have a desire and you have jealousy and
00:24:10.040 | stuff like that.
00:24:11.040 | Relying on other things, that's where your trust is, that's where your security is, you
00:24:13.880 | know?
00:24:14.880 | Good.
00:24:15.880 | When your reliance is on anything, when you're relying on something and that something takes
00:24:22.200 | greater trust, it receives greater confidence in the Lord God than you've committed idolatry.
00:24:30.040 | Anything else?
00:24:31.040 | Your pursuits.
00:24:35.800 | And typically it's like pursuit of success, pursuit of money.
00:24:42.400 | There was a passage that really kind of talked about idolatry and various things in the book
00:24:48.560 | of Job, interestingly enough.
00:24:50.560 | If you guys turn your Bible to Job 31.
00:24:55.800 | Job 31, okay.
00:25:09.120 | In Job 31, starting from verse 24, this is what it says.
00:25:14.400 | It says, "If I have put my confidence in gold and called fine gold my trust, if I have gloated
00:25:23.120 | because my wealth was great and because my hand had secured so much, if I have looked
00:25:27.640 | at the sun when it shone or the moon going in splendor and my heart became secretly enticed
00:25:33.860 | and my hand threw a kiss from my mouth, that too would have been an iniquity calling for
00:25:40.640 | judgment for I would have denied God above."
00:25:44.160 | Now that passage to me, you know, it encapsulates a lot of what is at the heart of idolatry.
00:25:52.960 | What is at the heart of idolatry is the replacement of God, right?
00:26:00.080 | At the heart of idolatry is a substitution.
00:26:03.600 | When God in the Ten Commandments talks about using his name in vain, having an image, having
00:26:09.640 | other gods, what is that but the replacement, the dethroning of God, right?
00:26:15.640 | But that is not the nature of what we do in sin.
00:26:19.720 | Whether it be I make God look like me, I make God look like something that serves me, it
00:26:25.520 | is a dethroning of the Lord above.
00:26:29.080 | That is at the heart of idolatry.
00:26:31.840 | Now in talking about all of these things, in talking about all of these things, we have
00:26:37.920 | to exercise great discernment, right?
00:26:44.160 | Because we realize that the tipping point from, you know, completely legitimate pursuit
00:26:51.600 | of money, success, our ambitions, and happiness, the tipping point is not so clear, is it?
00:26:59.200 | And what's crazy and dangerous about it is the tipping point is not so clear, but it
00:27:03.880 | could also happen so rapidly, right?
00:27:06.880 | Almost instantaneously.
00:27:09.200 | And so Apostle Paul again is calling the Christians at Corinth to not practice the kind of righteousness
00:27:15.920 | to which they say, "Well, here's the line.
00:27:18.760 | I haven't done anything wrong."
00:27:21.680 | Because in his eyes, that's not maturity.
00:27:24.200 | But in his eyes, the various forms of idolatry that will enter into our hearts, enter into
00:27:28.600 | our church, you are mature enough to see, right?
00:27:33.040 | And then to flee.
00:27:35.160 | So he mentions that, but in summary, or not in summary, but in moving forward, he talks
00:27:41.660 | about another aspect of it.
00:27:44.000 | He says, "No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to
00:27:49.560 | demons and not to God.
00:27:52.320 | And I do not want you to become shares in demons."
00:27:56.400 | Okay?
00:27:57.400 | And that point's just obvious.
00:27:59.760 | Why flee from idolatry?
00:28:03.440 | Because it's demonic.
00:28:06.120 | Right?
00:28:08.400 | So here, I wanted to ask you guys the question, do you believe that demons attack believers
00:28:17.940 | either in the Bible or today?
00:28:25.320 | And then I'm gonna ask probably a follow-up question, which is like, what does that look
00:28:28.400 | like, you know?
00:28:36.480 | So anyone?
00:28:37.480 | Do you believe that demons, and I'm talking specifically attacking believers, Christians,
00:28:43.920 | do demons attack Christians?
00:28:47.160 | And I'm gonna ask follow-up is, what do you think that looks like?
00:28:50.480 | - Yes.
00:28:52.280 | - Okay, yes.
00:28:55.080 | And then the follow-up question is?
00:28:56.080 | - I don't have to say that part.
00:28:57.080 | - What?
00:28:58.080 | - I said Matthew's gonna answer that.
00:28:59.080 | - Oh, nice.
00:29:00.080 | Tag.
00:29:01.080 | - Yeah, absolutely.
00:29:02.080 | I totally agree.
00:29:03.080 | - Nice.
00:29:04.080 | - So, it looks like, in part, even what it says here, like, I guess in the next part
00:29:05.080 | of the passage, like, it could be a direct attack on us, but it could be an attack,
00:29:06.080 | like, where maybe we use the word "demon" to describe a demon, and then we use the word
00:29:07.080 | "Christian" to describe a Christian.
00:29:08.080 | And then we use the word "demon" to describe a Christian.
00:29:09.080 | And then we use the word "demon" to describe a Christian.
00:29:10.080 | And then we use the word "Christian" to describe a Christian.
00:29:11.080 | And then we use the word "demon" to describe a Christian.
00:29:12.080 | And then we use the word "demon" to describe a Christian.
00:29:13.080 | And then we use the word "demon" to describe a Christian.
00:29:40.920 | - Okay.
00:29:50.760 | Cool.
00:30:06.080 | Thank you.
00:30:07.480 | Anybody else want to add to that, or just even just...
00:30:10.880 | So if you guys ever wonder that kind of question, you know, people have asked me a lot of times,
00:30:16.920 | do demons, like, internally influence us?
00:30:20.280 | That's why I pose the question.
00:30:22.320 | It's like, does a demon, like, cause me to say stuff?
00:30:27.040 | You know, if he's gonna attack the church and his unity, does he make me say nasty things
00:30:31.360 | and all that kind of stuff?
00:30:33.240 | And so, you know, there are questions about that.
00:30:35.640 | And I'm not gonna answer those questions specifically, but I do also concur.
00:30:41.520 | Demons, the demonic forces, Satan, they try.
00:30:47.080 | They do whatever they can to attack Christians today.
00:30:51.720 | And sometimes I feel like that's kind of a blind spot to just modern Christianity, you
00:30:58.520 | know?
00:30:59.800 | Maybe there are those people who make much of it, and that could be even one of Satan's
00:31:06.480 | strategies too.
00:31:07.480 | It's like, get them so engulfed in one aspect of your spiritual life that that's all you
00:31:12.080 | really ever think about.
00:31:15.880 | But in my mind, when I think about this truth, he's like, there is a spiritual realm here.
00:31:21.960 | I mean, he's trying to talk about the physical, which was the cup, the bread, the statue,
00:31:27.600 | the meat, and all that kind of stuff.
00:31:29.680 | But then he wants the Christians to be mature enough to observe the spiritual, right?
00:31:34.440 | And he says the spiritual is, there is this representation of their demonic worship, of
00:31:40.880 | their demonic influence, of their deception, and what is the twisted, perverted truth,
00:31:45.760 | right?
00:31:46.760 | And then I take a moment to think about that.
00:31:48.960 | And how many of you guys were with us when we read that book, Darkness and the Glory?
00:31:53.960 | Okay, a good number of you.
00:31:56.880 | I recommend it to you.
00:31:58.380 | Some of it, it sounds like conspiracy theory and it's a little confusing.
00:32:02.920 | Some of it's like gold, okay?
00:32:05.680 | But the main argument in that book is that Satan, being the father of deception, is so
00:32:13.040 | deceived himself, and he has so deceived himself, he believes he can win.
00:32:21.520 | Satan believes he can usurp the hand of God and deceive the Christian to fail.
00:32:28.160 | Satan believes that he can so attack Christ that Christ would fail.
00:32:33.760 | And so the argument in that book is, not only is the spiritual battle alive, and not only
00:32:39.120 | is it rampant, Satan will literally do every single thing in his power, every single arsenal,
00:32:46.680 | every arrow, every scheme, every lie, Satan will throw.
00:32:50.660 | And the book makes the argument that whatever Satan has, he threw at Christ and he's gonna
00:32:54.400 | throw at you.
00:32:57.520 | And I kinda see that.
00:32:59.480 | So someone can ask me, "Hey, do you think Satan is gonna try to use our words?"
00:33:04.040 | I'm like, "I don't believe Satan or the devils have control over a Christian, because we're
00:33:10.200 | indwelt by the Holy Spirit.
00:33:12.760 | But would he use words?
00:33:14.480 | Yeah.
00:33:15.520 | Would he use whatever he could?
00:33:18.440 | Yeah.
00:33:19.680 | Would he use certain people who came in and they were teaching false stuff?
00:33:23.320 | Yes he would.
00:33:24.320 | And Apostle Paul is very clear.
00:33:26.520 | That's gonna happen.
00:33:27.520 | That's one of Satan's schemes.
00:33:29.280 | You throw him out.
00:33:30.280 | Don't listen to him.
00:33:31.280 | Don't invite him into your home.
00:33:33.120 | Right?
00:33:34.120 | But it's gonna happen.
00:33:35.120 | There's gonna be people who are coming through those doors, claiming to be Christians, but
00:33:37.640 | will teach falsehood.
00:33:40.200 | Will Satan attack leaders?
00:33:41.200 | Yes he will.
00:33:42.200 | Will Satan attack the members?
00:33:43.800 | Yes he will.
00:33:44.800 | Satan will stop at nothing to thwart us.
00:33:49.360 | And that's one of the things I just want us to highlight is just like, and so he's calling
00:33:54.320 | these Christians to mature a bit here.
00:33:56.480 | And he's saying, you know, like, do you see, you know, what you're espousing when you don't
00:34:02.680 | care about the other Christians and you say, well, this is my right.
00:34:05.880 | Well, this is my freedom.
00:34:07.600 | Well, this is my liberty and I know what's best.
00:34:10.080 | I know what's right.
00:34:11.080 | I'm completely legitimate in doing this.
00:34:13.120 | It's like, man, don't you know the spiritual battle is real?
00:34:18.800 | Okay?
00:34:19.800 | All right.
00:34:21.120 | So that's verses 19 through 21 for the blank is spiritual reality, right?
00:34:27.800 | Spiritual reality.
00:34:28.800 | And to sum that up, he's essentially saying flee from idolatry because it's demonic, because
00:34:36.960 | it represents demonic activity.
00:34:39.480 | Okay.
00:34:40.480 | Did I give you the blank for number, the first one?
00:34:44.480 | I can't remember.
00:34:46.680 | For verses 16, 18?
00:34:49.120 | Well, if I didn't, it's a conflict of fellowship.
00:34:55.480 | You can't, you can't fellowship in two camps.
00:35:00.160 | All right.
00:35:01.680 | Next section.
00:35:02.680 | Can I have Jonas Alejo?
00:35:04.760 | Can you read verse 22 please?
00:35:06.720 | Oh, sorry.
00:35:08.800 | Yes.
00:35:09.960 | 22.
00:35:11.200 | Okay.
00:35:12.480 | So we provoke the Lord to jealousy.
00:35:21.320 | Are we stronger than he?
00:35:24.320 | Okay.
00:35:25.320 | So we're taking a look here at verse 22 and it says, or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy?
00:35:30.320 | We are not stronger than he, are we?
00:35:32.760 | Right?
00:35:34.000 | And so this to me, again, pose another reason.
00:35:37.960 | So the fleeing moral, uh, idolatry, right?
00:35:41.600 | And it had this idea of what you share in.
00:35:44.840 | And then when he said, what I mean is, that's how I'd split that up and said, okay, that's
00:35:49.880 | an indicator where he's at least making another premise or just building on top.
00:35:55.160 | And then when he said, or that's when I realized, okay, he's probably doing another argument
00:36:00.240 | and thinking, helping us think of something else.
00:36:03.400 | And this, the reason why I, if I were to, you know, entitle this as a sermon, I would
00:36:13.640 | call it like true maturity.
00:36:16.120 | Although it's talking about true idolatry or flee from idolatry, I'll talk about as
00:36:21.280 | true maturity is because to me, in my mind, a truly mature Christian always asked the
00:36:29.840 | question, what about God?
00:36:33.480 | Right?
00:36:34.840 | A really mature Christian will ask the question, well, what does God think of it?
00:36:40.800 | Because that maturity is a maturity as a son who considers the father, a daughter who is
00:36:46.800 | in tune with the father's heart, right?
00:36:50.960 | Someone who has read the scriptures enough, has prayed, has communed with God, is going
00:36:55.200 | to have a sense for what pleases the Lord or displeases the Lord.
00:37:01.400 | Someone who has really been in harmony with God is going to feel sensitivity.
00:37:05.960 | Well, what about God?
00:37:10.520 | And that to me is a mark of somebody who is very, very mature.
00:37:13.960 | I don't think I could do that.
00:37:16.040 | Why?
00:37:17.040 | There's no problem with this.
00:37:18.040 | Like, I just, I don't know how God would think of that.
00:37:20.160 | I think I would look at that and, and they're able to say that because they've thought
00:37:24.880 | deeply of what the Lord's perspective on us would be.
00:37:28.920 | A selfish child, a child who's living in the moment, a child who's living on earth, simply
00:37:33.160 | in the material, simply here and now.
00:37:36.640 | They're considering immediate cost benefits, immediate risk, immediate kickback, how it
00:37:42.240 | affects me.
00:37:43.720 | But the child of God who is mature is thinking on a broader scale.
00:37:48.320 | But what about God?
00:37:50.800 | How does he view this?
00:37:53.420 | And that's essentially what he's saying.
00:37:55.120 | He's asking this question, or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy?
00:38:01.360 | And it immediately brings into question, how would God look at this?
00:38:07.000 | And I want you to turn to a scary passage in Deuteronomy chapter 32.
00:38:11.080 | Deuteronomy chapter 32.
00:38:15.120 | And I call it a scary passage because if you read the whole chapter, it's pretty scary.
00:38:21.680 | It sounds almost just like the segments of revelations where you just, it's hard to keep
00:38:25.520 | reading because it's just like so descriptive of the kind of wrath that God is going to
00:38:29.920 | impose on the earth.
00:38:32.660 | But in chapter 32, starting from verse 19, okay, Deuteronomy chapter 32, starting from
00:38:37.900 | verse 19, it says, "The Lord saw this and spurned them because of the provocation of
00:38:47.340 | his sons and daughters.
00:38:49.480 | Then he said, 'I will hide my face from them.
00:38:53.220 | I will see what their end shall be, for they are a perverse generation, sons in whom is
00:38:58.680 | no faithfulness.
00:39:00.500 | They have made me jealous with what is not God.
00:39:03.500 | They have provoked me to anger with their idols, so I will make them jealous with those
00:39:07.600 | who are not a people.
00:39:08.740 | I will provoke them to anger with the foolish nation.
00:39:12.480 | For a fire is kindled in my anger and burns to the lowest part of Sheol and consumes the
00:39:17.540 | earth with its shield and sets on fire the foundations of the mountains.
00:39:21.860 | I will heap misfortunes on them.
00:39:23.420 | I will use my arrows on them.
00:39:24.740 | They will be wasted by famine and consumed by plagues or bitter destruction.
00:39:29.060 | And the teeth of beasts I will send upon them, with the venom of crawling things of dust.
00:39:33.460 | Outside the sword will bereave and inside terror.
00:39:36.200 | Both young man and virgin, but the nurseling and the man, gray in hair, I would have said,
00:39:41.340 | I will cut them to pieces.
00:39:42.940 | I will remove the memory of them from men.'"
00:39:45.340 | That's one of those passages where it's kind of crazy because you see what he's saying,
00:39:50.540 | he's just like, "They provoked me to such anger.
00:39:54.820 | I'm going to have such vengeance on them.
00:39:57.300 | I'm going to completely turn the whole tables upside down.
00:40:00.100 | You provoke me to anger, I'm going to provoke you.
00:40:02.980 | And after you've been provoked, I'm going to completely destroy you.
00:40:06.300 | Both the babies, both the senior citizens, everybody.
00:40:11.300 | And not a single soul will ever remember you because you will be annihilated."
00:40:14.420 | I mean, that's the kind of stuff that he's saying, right?
00:40:16.580 | That's what I mean when I say, man, it reads just like Revelation.
00:40:20.020 | It's just kind of scary.
00:40:22.100 | But the fact of the matter is, if we were to ask, what about God?
00:40:29.680 | We realize God is a jealous God.
00:40:35.020 | That much is clear in the Bible.
00:40:37.540 | And I ask you this question.
00:40:40.980 | Paul says, "Flee idolatry."
00:40:43.780 | And his last point clearly is, because God is a jealous God.
00:40:49.380 | How would you explain that to a young Christian?
00:40:55.300 | How would you explain that to somebody who's new to the faith and maybe all they've heard
00:41:00.020 | is like, "And God has a great plan for you, huge hope for the future.
00:41:03.780 | Come into the church, learn the Bible, have fellowship.
00:41:06.860 | Do you want to find community?
00:41:08.340 | Here you are."
00:41:09.860 | And then he learns Deuteronomy chapter 32 and he's just like, "Duh."
00:41:16.460 | How do you explain that?
00:41:19.140 | Anybody want to take a shot at that, please?
00:41:20.140 | Someone in our table offered the example of marriage.
00:41:45.140 | Good.
00:41:59.940 | I like how you use the word "the right."
00:42:03.060 | The right.
00:42:07.020 | You know, Pastor Peter posted up a testimony recently of a professor who was part of the
00:42:14.780 | gay and lesbian community and through a lot of going back and forth with Christians and
00:42:19.980 | writing articles and she essentially was kind of a leader of that liberal camp and she was
00:42:25.900 | converted and I listened to it and I was just so thoroughly encouraged.
00:42:30.940 | If you guys haven't had a chance to listen to it, I really encourage that you do.
00:42:36.580 | Especially for those of you guys who perhaps never felt, you know, sometimes people ask
00:42:41.420 | me, "I believe in God, I have surrendered to God, but sometimes I don't feel it."
00:42:46.700 | She talks about that.
00:42:47.700 | She's like, "I've surrendered.
00:42:48.700 | I didn't have this burst of tears and emotions, but I surrendered."
00:42:56.020 | And in talking about the surrender, she gave this example and said, "A lot of the questions
00:43:00.660 | I get sometimes are weird because one of the most frequently asked questions is, 'Why
00:43:06.060 | can't you just be both?
00:43:08.620 | Why can't you just accept Christianity and still be lesbian?'"
00:43:13.220 | And then instead of answering the question, she just started to talk.
00:43:17.340 | And she started to talk about how God is Lord and she is not.
00:43:22.740 | So how can one have the audacity and the pride to tell God, "Well, this is how it shall be
00:43:28.740 | because I want both."
00:43:32.500 | And the reason why I like the fact that, you know, David said, "In the context when you
00:43:37.260 | have a right, then you have a right to be jealous."
00:43:43.060 | But God is God.
00:43:45.180 | He created everything.
00:43:46.840 | He owns everything.
00:43:48.420 | He's the one who gave us purpose.
00:43:49.740 | He's the one who gave us life.
00:43:51.020 | He's the one who sustains our existence.
00:43:54.900 | He has a right.
00:43:57.420 | Okay?
00:43:58.500 | And where there is a right, there is a right to be jealous.
00:44:03.300 | And He has that right to perfection.
00:44:06.140 | He is Lord.
00:44:08.260 | And only when you understand the spiritual reality of God's Lordship, that God is God
00:44:12.740 | exalted and almighty, does this jealousy make sense.
00:44:17.380 | Right?
00:44:18.940 | And so as a kind of, you know, kind of summing up, summing up of the lesson today, let's
00:44:26.780 | stop there and really think about what is maturity, you know?
00:44:31.580 | Christian maturity.
00:44:33.180 | Christian maturity looks so much different than what the world would view as maturity,
00:44:36.660 | you know?
00:44:38.340 | Worldly maturity means I pay my own bills and I do what I want without my parents.
00:44:42.980 | Right?
00:44:44.340 | Worldly maturity means my parents don't tell me what to do anymore.
00:44:47.180 | I dictate what I do with my life.
00:44:51.220 | In the family of God, in the relationship of us as sons and daughters of God, that maturity
00:44:56.980 | looks quite different, you know?
00:44:59.260 | And I think Apostle Paul, through these passages, have been challenging us to not think on such
00:45:05.340 | a base level of, "Well, I did base minimum," or "I met the line, I've met the requirement,
00:45:10.540 | let me exercise my freedoms."
00:45:13.340 | Apostle Paul is saying, "Now you have the freedom.
00:45:15.900 | Glorify God.
00:45:16.980 | Consider Him.
00:45:17.980 | Represent."
00:45:18.980 | What a huge challenge for us, amen?
00:45:22.460 | Alright.
00:45:23.580 | Any questions about the passage today?
00:45:25.780 | Going from verse 14 to 22?
00:45:28.980 | Okay.
00:45:29.980 | Let's bow for a prayer and you guys can have your time of discussion.
00:45:34.940 | Okay?
00:45:35.940 | Heavenly Father, I thank you so much for your grace.
00:45:42.900 | God, I pray that in our spiritual lives, it is a battle truly of truth and comprehending
00:45:52.660 | and grasping reality.
00:45:54.700 | I pray, God, that we would live in the spiritual realities revealed to us by scripture.
00:46:00.460 | I pray, God, that you would not allow us to live long simply by sight, but God, to live
00:46:06.300 | truly in faith.
00:46:07.900 | I pray, Lord, that we would take the call to mature as Apostle Paul is expecting the
00:46:12.420 | church to not simply live by the letter of the law or simply live by what is base minimum,
00:46:20.540 | but really to represent God in this world and be a light.
00:46:24.020 | And I pray, Father God, that you would challenge us that whatever freedoms, whatever blessings
00:46:28.740 | we have, we would turn that all to your glory and honor.
00:46:33.140 | We thank you in Christ's name.
00:46:35.140 | Amen.
00:46:36.140 | Okay.
00:46:37.140 | Again, I tried my best with the discussion questions.
00:46:40.020 | Some of them not so good.
00:46:41.740 | The first one, I was like, "Have you ever been attacked?"
00:46:43.980 | What I mean by that is, have you ever felt like demonic, spiritual attack?
00:46:49.140 | If you have a good story of what it was like, tell the story.
00:46:52.180 | Tell me too later.
00:46:54.340 | And I'll tell you if it really is.
00:46:58.420 | The other ones is just try to evaluate self.
00:47:00.980 | Are there anything that you feel is idolatry?
00:47:04.100 | There's stuff that's apparent, stuff that's more subtle, and please talk about that, okay?
00:47:08.420 | All right.
00:47:09.420 | Thank you.
00:47:09.700 | Thank you.