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2015-06-18 Study of 1 Corinthians: Week 9


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00:00:00.000 | At the passage that we're gonna be studying today, chapter 4, verses 14 to 21, I'm gonna
00:00:11.440 | read this verse.
00:00:13.360 | Did you grab a packet for today?
00:00:15.000 | Okay, there's a packet right at the table in the back.
00:00:20.800 | There's no more left?
00:00:21.800 | Oh, sorry, there's no more left.
00:00:22.800 | Okay.
00:00:23.800 | Do you wanna make a call, please?
00:00:30.560 | Thanks, Matt.
00:00:31.560 | All right.
00:00:32.560 | So let me read this for us, and it says, "I do not write these things to shame you, but
00:00:40.320 | to admonish you as my beloved children.
00:00:43.600 | For if we were to have countless tutors in Christ, yet you would not have many fathers.
00:00:48.480 | For in Christ Jesus, I became your father through the gospel.
00:00:51.520 | Therefore, I exhort you, be imitators of me.
00:00:55.280 | For this reason, I have sent to you Timothy, who is my beloved and faithful child in the
00:01:00.560 | Lord.
00:01:01.560 | And he will remind you of my ways which are in Christ, just as I teach everywhere in every
00:01:06.400 | church.
00:01:07.400 | Now, some have become arrogant as though I were not coming to you, but I will come to
00:01:11.800 | you soon.
00:01:12.800 | If the Lord wills, and I shall find out, not the words of those who are arrogant, but their
00:01:18.360 | power.
00:01:19.360 | For the kingdom of God does not consist in words, but in power.
00:01:23.480 | What do you desire?
00:01:24.480 | Shall I come to you with a rod, or with love and a spirit of gentleness?"
00:01:28.280 | Okay, let's pray before we jump in.
00:01:30.080 | Heavenly Father, we wanna thank you again for your precious word.
00:01:35.080 | We pray that as your word continues to examine us, challenge us, and admonish us to diminish
00:01:45.680 | our pride and our hearts, to continue to seek harmony within the church.
00:01:51.360 | I pray, Father Lord, that you would convict us through the spirit.
00:01:55.480 | And Lord, would you help us to glean much from today's study as Apostle Paul continues
00:02:00.120 | to express his heart of ministry and love towards the church.
00:02:04.560 | We thank you in Christ's name, amen.
00:02:07.280 | All right.
00:02:09.560 | Man, sorry if I talk slower today.
00:02:13.560 | I'm like mega dizzy and like stuffy right here.
00:02:17.120 | So sometimes I get a little woozy.
00:02:20.960 | Okay, in looking at the passes that I just read, now I just read it one time through,
00:02:27.800 | and he's ending, he's ending his long argument about their division and the pride that they
00:02:34.480 | have.
00:02:35.600 | If you look in chapter five, he's going to change the topic and say, "It is actually
00:02:40.660 | reported that there is immorality among you," and he is changing the subject, right?
00:02:45.520 | So in this last section, you would think typically you leave the punch to the very end.
00:02:53.360 | You leave the emphasis, right?
00:02:55.480 | In terms of the argument, a closing statement, so to speak.
00:02:59.520 | Now I want to ask you, what would be the main argument and reason why the church should
00:03:07.080 | no longer be divided in this passage?
00:03:09.680 | And more specifically, I think he gives it away in verse 14 through 15.
00:03:14.880 | Say that one more time.
00:03:21.840 | You are a family.
00:03:22.840 | Okay, very good.
00:03:25.920 | What else?
00:03:27.560 | Any other thoughts about what this last argument can be?
00:03:31.280 | Okay, excellent.
00:03:41.960 | So I like both of those.
00:03:44.600 | He's been giving various analogies and metaphors about who they are.
00:03:48.600 | Spiritually here, he sees himself as their spiritual father, right?
00:03:53.380 | And there's a sense in which, you know, when you're teaching little kids to do something,
00:03:58.880 | you can tell them, "You need to do this because it's good for you.
00:04:01.560 | You need to do this because the consequences are like this."
00:04:04.760 | Sometimes you can tell them, "You need to do this because it hurts them."
00:04:07.200 | You know, I tell Yoshi, "You have to be like this.
00:04:10.120 | I know it seems unfair because otherwise you're hurting your brother."
00:04:14.240 | But there are times when I will say, "You need to listen to me because I'm Appa, because
00:04:20.240 | I'm your father."
00:04:22.100 | And although that used improperly would be just simply an abuse of power, but used properly,
00:04:30.180 | it makes absolute sense.
00:04:32.860 | Apostle Paul is essentially saying there's a great difference between, let's say, some
00:04:36.820 | random guy trying to write you a letter to correct you, as opposed to me, I've stayed
00:04:41.660 | with you for many years, or about two years.
00:04:44.700 | I've appealed to you.
00:04:46.940 | I've loved you.
00:04:47.940 | I've shared with you.
00:04:48.940 | I've taught you.
00:04:50.340 | Apostle Paul has sacrificed everything for this church.
00:04:54.500 | And so in this last one, he's telling them, "I'm speaking to you as a father.
00:04:59.260 | I'm speaking to you as a father."
00:05:00.820 | So let's take a dive in and take a look at more closely, then as a father, what are the
00:05:07.740 | things that Apostle Paul is doing for the church and why should they listen?
00:05:11.500 | Well, in verse 14, we'll get these words, "I do not write these things to you to shame
00:05:18.020 | you, but to admonish you as my beloved children."
00:05:21.660 | And the first question I want to ask is, if you were to take that first verse and use
00:05:28.940 | that as almost like a purpose statement for the letter, how would you summarize that?
00:05:39.620 | I know it's already a short verse, and you're like, "Huh, you're almost asking a summary
00:05:43.460 | of a summary statement."
00:05:46.020 | But sometimes it's good to put things in our own words.
00:05:48.220 | We do that a lot when we're studying, right?
00:05:50.420 | Because that way we're kind of grasping, "Hey, this is in many ways the purpose statement
00:05:54.980 | of the whole letter."
00:05:55.980 | Okay?
00:05:56.980 | So just try.
00:05:57.980 | Yes?
00:05:58.980 | I write this because I love you and it's good for you.
00:06:02.900 | Excellent.
00:06:03.900 | I write this because I love you and it's good for you.
00:06:06.220 | What else?
00:06:07.220 | Dude, I'm so sorry.
00:06:08.740 | My mind blanked.
00:06:09.740 | What was your name again?
00:06:10.740 | Jonathan.
00:06:11.740 | Jonathan.
00:06:12.740 | Sorry.
00:06:13.740 | I talked with him forever the last week.
00:06:15.740 | I can't believe I'm like this.
00:06:19.740 | Anyway.
00:06:21.340 | Any other summaries?
00:06:22.340 | It's to admonish as a father to his son.
00:06:29.340 | Okay.
00:06:30.340 | I'm writing to admonish as a father to his son.
00:06:33.940 | Excellent.
00:06:34.940 | Okay?
00:06:35.940 | So this is the tone of the whole letter.
00:06:37.260 | I mean, as in the whole book, you know?
00:06:41.140 | What Apostle Paul is admonishing, correcting, but he's doing it in the context of a relationship
00:06:47.540 | where he is their father and he loves them.
00:06:49.940 | Okay?
00:06:50.940 | So just from this short verse, what applications can we draw about correcting or admonishing
00:06:57.380 | someone?
00:07:03.180 | How about Christine Cha?
00:07:13.020 | One more time?
00:07:14.020 | Okay.
00:07:15.020 | Great.
00:07:16.020 | To do it out of genuine care and to the best of that person, right?
00:07:23.540 | To benefit that individual.
00:07:25.700 | Absolutely.
00:07:26.980 | If you look at that, there's a little last phrase, "as my beloved children."
00:07:35.020 | You know, I really love it when the writers, whether it's Apostle Paul or other writers,
00:07:41.740 | they start writing to the church as their truly beloved.
00:07:45.260 | You know?
00:07:46.260 | I remember John, as he's writing, he's an individual who writes of love a lot.
00:07:53.820 | And it's pretty astounding because the way that the writers are seeing the church, they're
00:07:58.580 | not seeing them as like, "You are my soldiers and I must break you."
00:08:02.580 | You know?
00:08:03.580 | They're not seeing them like, "You are my minions," or "You are my disciples, so do
00:08:07.220 | what your teacher says," which in that culture, they could.
00:08:13.740 | That's a culture where they had, what, slaves and masters.
00:08:18.620 | That's a culture where hierarchy amongst older people and younger people and people of stature
00:08:23.860 | and people of low income status was really, really different.
00:08:27.500 | But the way that Apostle Paul and the different authors of the Bible speak to the church is
00:08:31.100 | one of deep, deep love and care.
00:08:34.700 | And then, you know, all the commentaries made note of the fact that that term, "as my beloved
00:08:40.860 | children," is interestingly written.
00:08:43.140 | You guys have heard many, many times that there are different words for love.
00:08:46.460 | There's phileo, which is like brotherly love, and there's different types of love.
00:08:50.140 | This one is the agape love.
00:08:52.660 | There is this unconditional, "I will go to any length to serve you, to do good for you,"
00:09:00.140 | in the term agape.
00:09:01.380 | There is this commitment, unconditional commitment for your good in that term, agape.
00:09:07.700 | And so, all the things that Apostle Paul says, even the things that, remember in the last
00:09:11.860 | couple weeks, he was getting all sarcastic with them.
00:09:14.300 | He was like, "You guys are kings and I'm just a, you know, lollipopper and you guys are
00:09:18.780 | wise and I must be stupid."
00:09:20.260 | You know, he's getting all sarcastic.
00:09:21.980 | But even sometimes that harsh tone, it exists in the care.
00:09:26.460 | It exists in the fatherly love.
00:09:28.140 | You see what I'm saying?
00:09:31.140 | Okay.
00:09:32.140 | What else?
00:09:34.860 | What else can we derive just from that short statement, or short phrase, verse 14?
00:09:41.380 | Yes.
00:09:42.380 | John?
00:09:43.380 | >> Sometimes love hurts.
00:09:46.380 | >> Okay.
00:09:47.380 | Sometimes love hurts.
00:09:50.380 | Yeah.
00:09:51.380 | But we should still do the things that are necessary, right?
00:09:57.660 | So he mentions this idea of, over here, this whole idea of, "I don't necessarily want to
00:10:06.860 | shame you, but I am going to admonish you."
00:10:09.140 | You know?
00:10:10.140 | And that correction and admonishing is going to be painful.
00:10:14.300 | When he says, "I don't want to shame you," we do have to think about this principle,
00:10:17.820 | like if we're ever in a position, let's say, sometimes on the line, you're a small group
00:10:21.980 | leader or just one-to-one, you have a younger brother or sister in Christ that you need
00:10:27.380 | to correct, that you need to admonish, right?
00:10:30.660 | You definitely never want to shame them.
00:10:32.740 | You never want to humiliate them.
00:10:34.520 | You never want to make them feel like, "Oh, I'm just getting pressed so hard that essentially
00:10:39.780 | I'm broken here," you know?
00:10:41.860 | There's a sense in which it's not our job to break somebody.
00:10:48.380 | The breaking is going to happen by their own conviction in the Spirit to the truth of the
00:10:51.700 | Lord.
00:10:52.940 | It's our job to give them and admonish them in the capacity God has given us, according
00:10:59.300 | to His Word.
00:11:00.300 | And so he says, "I don't mean to shame you, but what I do mean is to admonish you."
00:11:04.660 | And that is one of the key terms that I want to talk about.
00:11:11.020 | Admonish in the Greek is "nuthetaio," and it literally means "to put into mind."
00:11:16.540 | To put into mind.
00:11:18.620 | So I'm sure a lot of you guys have heard about biblical counseling or nuthetic counseling,
00:11:23.780 | and the whole premise behind that approach to counseling is to say, "We're going to reason
00:11:30.980 | from the Scriptures and change the way an individual thinks, what the individual believes,
00:11:36.780 | the attitude of the heart needs to change."
00:11:39.440 | That's at the base or the foundation of that nuthetic counseling.
00:11:43.260 | And so, from that term, there is a principle to be learned.
00:11:49.340 | I loved it when an older gentleman taught me this principle and said, "You know, when
00:11:53.980 | you're trying to help people change, you have to make them see the wisdom in it.
00:12:00.700 | You have to make them see the wisdom of what you're doing.
00:12:03.340 | I mean, you can sit here and just be like, 'Come on, come on,' and really, really just
00:12:09.060 | kind of cheer them on and whatnot, but if they don't rationally, if they don't in truth
00:12:14.040 | see the wisdom in what they're doing, they might be performing for you, they might temporarily
00:12:18.420 | be appeasing you, but there's a sense in which a lasting, permanent change might not happen
00:12:24.140 | until they see the wisdom of what they do."
00:12:27.060 | So, with the term admonish, it has with it the idea that he purposed to bring about a
00:12:33.700 | change in their belief and understanding, right?
00:12:37.080 | And that's why you see in a letter, you see a letter where he's making arguments upon
00:12:42.580 | arguments upon arguments.
00:12:44.820 | You know what I mean?
00:12:48.780 | So far, again, in that first verse, we learn a lot just about, one, what did Apostle Paul
00:12:53.240 | purpose in his heart, and two, applicationally, how do we go about admonishing or correcting
00:12:59.580 | people?
00:13:00.580 | Okay?
00:13:01.580 | I want to ask you this question, though.
00:13:02.580 | It's a yes or no question.
00:13:04.320 | Is it our job as a Christian to admonish fellow Christians?
00:13:13.500 | Yes or no?
00:13:14.500 | Yes?
00:13:15.500 | Okay.
00:13:16.500 | Well, to, this is one of those trick ones.
00:13:21.780 | That's why even though it's a yes or no one, I put it in here.
00:13:26.900 | In one sense, yes, absolutely.
00:13:30.420 | Galatians chapter six, verse one through two.
00:13:33.260 | Brethren, even if, you know what?
00:13:34.940 | Let me have some of you guys read this.
00:13:35.940 | I'm going to save my voice here.
00:13:38.140 | Patrick, can you read Galatians six?
00:13:41.980 | Really loud.
00:13:42.980 | - Brethren, watch the law.
00:13:45.980 | - Okay, thank you.
00:13:48.580 | I'm going to have, how about, Mark Barless, can you read the Ezekiel passage?
00:13:59.460 | - When I say to the wicked, you will surely die if you do not work and speak out for more
00:14:16.420 | if he does not turn from the wickedness, or from the wicked way,
00:14:19.880 | he shall die and be forgiven, but He has delivered himself.
00:14:22.880 | Again, when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits a wicked deed,
00:14:27.080 | and commits an obstacle before it, he will die.
00:14:29.420 | Since you have not warned him that he shall die in sin and his righteous deeds which he has done,
00:14:33.840 | he shall not be remembered, but his blood I will require in your hand.
00:14:37.160 | However, if you have warned the righteous man that the righteous should not sin, and he does not sin,
00:14:42.340 | he shall surely live because he has been warned, and you have delivered yourself.
00:14:47.040 | Okay, so those passages are pretty clear.
00:14:49.920 | Like, if you're spiritual, and someone's sinning, then you who are spiritual,
00:14:54.260 | you need to restore the person with gentleness.
00:14:57.080 | In Ezekiel passage, if you see somebody and they're acting wickedly,
00:15:00.960 | you need to speak them warning, otherwise their blood is on your hands.
00:15:04.880 | Right?
00:15:05.760 | So very clearly, those two passages teach us you need to admonish the people around you.
00:15:10.540 | And so, I want us to think about that a little bit.
00:15:15.200 | Basically, the reason why I say it wasn't as a clear-cut yes or no is because
00:15:20.000 | there is kind of a balancing of two things, right?
00:15:25.380 | For example, if you don't know a person, you don't want to just go to them in the vision and be like,
00:15:31.540 | "You did that wrong."
00:15:32.960 | It's like, "Who are you?"
00:15:34.420 | You know?
00:15:35.540 | And also, in humility, you realize, "I don't see everything.
00:15:38.580 | I don't see the person's, like, the surrounding circumstance, the person's intention."
00:15:43.540 | So there's, on one end of the spectrum, there is, you should be careful about how you admonish people.
00:15:49.080 | But on the other side of the spectrum, if you don't admonish people,
00:15:52.920 | then you're also not heeding what God has implemented into the community of Christ.
00:15:57.580 | Right?
00:15:58.700 | And there's a sense in which we're really not doing God and His truth,
00:16:04.500 | or giving God and His truth the kind of honor that it deserves.
00:16:10.080 | Where we are all together so submitted to the will of the Lord,
00:16:13.840 | that we are all together and one another admonishing each other to submit unto that.
00:16:18.340 | Right?
00:16:19.380 | So, again, there is a balancing of the two.
00:16:21.660 | And then verse 15 and 16, to me, is that kind of balancing.
00:16:26.120 | Or 15 and 16, yeah.
00:16:27.540 | Of the kind of balancing of what he's saying.
00:16:29.340 | What I mean by that is this.
00:16:31.080 | In verse 15, he says, "For if you were to have countless fathers in Christ,
00:16:35.460 | that you would not have many fathers.
00:16:38.040 | For in Christ Jesus, I became your father through the gospel."
00:16:42.160 | Okay?
00:16:43.380 | Now, it could be pretty plain what he means by this.
00:16:47.540 | But let me ask you, what do you think he means by saying,
00:16:50.200 | "I became your father through the gospel"?
00:16:53.920 | Is he thinking about quality of care, like, "I care for you as a father"?
00:16:58.160 | Is he thinking about just, like, numerically,
00:17:00.540 | "There's only one dad, I'm your one dad"?
00:17:03.000 | What's he saying?
00:17:07.880 | Hmm.
00:17:09.420 | Okay, so my relationship to you is one as father to son,
00:17:12.620 | and so I have the authority over you.
00:17:14.300 | What else?
00:17:16.660 | How did he become a father to them?
00:17:20.700 | Yes.
00:17:24.660 | Yeah.
00:17:25.760 | Excellent.
00:17:26.880 | So, more specifically, I do think he does have that relationship as an apostle,
00:17:32.800 | where he has authority over the church.
00:17:35.040 | Essentially planting the church.
00:17:37.000 | But more specifically, he is the one who brought them to Christ.
00:17:39.660 | So he is literally their spiritual father, right, through the gospel.
00:17:44.460 | And so there's a sense here where he is talking about the various things
00:17:49.160 | that I kind of mentioned, the quality of care,
00:17:50.800 | numerically there's one father.
00:17:52.960 | He's saying, "There can be a lot of people who kind of tutor you,
00:17:57.960 | but there is one spiritual father, and I became that father to you."
00:18:02.160 | Right?
00:18:03.040 | And so he's kind of saying, like, "Through that experience,
00:18:05.280 | I'm so closely tied to you."
00:18:07.840 | You know, there's a sense in which, can I become a father to anybody?
00:18:13.620 | In a functional sense, I can adopt and become their father.
00:18:18.000 | But in a biological sense, I can only become a father by actually,
00:18:24.040 | you know, going through the natural process.
00:18:27.840 | Right?
00:18:28.660 | And what's really interesting to me is that that tie of being a biological father
00:18:34.620 | will make fathers go above and beyond.
00:18:36.840 | What do I mean by that?
00:18:38.200 | So, you know, when I was working at this academy back in Cerritos,
00:18:46.040 | what the academy did was they hosted a bunch of these children from Guatemala.
00:18:50.880 | And these children were super cute.
00:18:52.500 | They were Koreans who lived in Guatemala and grew up there,
00:18:55.320 | and they came over, and then these host families would essentially
00:18:58.160 | parrot them for almost two months.
00:19:00.120 | Okay?
00:19:01.620 | Now, you know what's really interesting is a lot of the host families
00:19:04.960 | were Christian parents.
00:19:06.840 | But sadly to say, do you think the host parents treated their
00:19:11.540 | biological kids the same as the Guatemalan kids?
00:19:14.040 | Mm-mm.
00:19:17.500 | What's really interesting is biological children, they'll do stuff like buy them
00:19:21.240 | cars, they'll do stuff like drive them, like, everywhere and anywhere.
00:19:25.200 | They'll pay.
00:19:26.200 | That academy was not cheap.
00:19:27.400 | It was like 500 bucks a month.
00:19:29.640 | 500 bucks a month, are you crazy?
00:19:31.900 | And these were Korean parents, so they don't want to lose a dollar, you know?
00:19:35.700 | But for their biological kids, they would go above and beyond.
00:19:39.500 | So what's weird to me and interesting to me is that tie and connection will make
00:19:43.940 | parents go to any length.
00:19:46.460 | And you guys know that.
00:19:47.460 | Your parents will go any length.
00:19:49.620 | You need money?
00:19:50.620 | Okay.
00:19:51.620 | You need this?
00:19:52.620 | Okay.
00:19:53.620 | You need that?
00:19:54.620 | Okay.
00:19:55.620 | Education?
00:19:56.620 | No problem.
00:19:57.620 | That's the way biological parents are.
00:19:58.620 | You're a biological father.
00:19:59.620 | I'm connected to you in this way.
00:20:02.340 | And there's a verse that I jotted down for you there.
00:20:05.620 | Mitchell, can you read that?
00:20:06.820 | Second Corinthians 12, 14 through 15.
00:20:08.800 | It speaks his heart towards the church.
00:20:09.800 | Here for the third time, I am ready to come to you.
00:20:10.800 | I will not be a burden to you, for I do not seek what is yours from you.
00:20:11.800 | Your children are not responsible to save up for their parents, but parents for their
00:20:12.800 | children.
00:20:13.800 | I will most gladly spend and be expended for your soul.
00:20:14.800 | If I love you more, I will be the one to love you more.
00:20:15.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:16.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:17.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:18.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:19.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:20.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:21.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:28.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:29.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:30.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:31.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:32.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:33.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:34.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:35.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:36.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:37.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:38.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:39.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:40.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:41.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:42.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:43.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:44.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:45.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:46.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:47.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:48.800 | I will be a blessing to you.
00:20:49.800 | There is a difference.
00:20:50.800 | There is a difference from a tutor to a parent.
00:20:55.280 | There is a difference between a babysitter and a parent.
00:20:57.800 | There is a difference between a hired hand, as Jesus would say, and the true shepherd.
00:21:02.240 | And Apostle Paul is saying that I have this heart towards you.
00:21:07.000 | So earlier I asked, is it our job to admonish?
00:21:09.800 | Yes.
00:21:10.800 | But we have to always remember that job to admonish exists in the context of love.
00:21:15.640 | Right?
00:21:16.640 | If we're not willing to expend ourselves and go the extra step, if we're not willing
00:21:20.720 | to help them by way of X, Y, and Z, and yet all we want to do is drop them the bomb and
00:21:28.040 | give them a rock or something and say, here, take it.
00:21:32.240 | I don't think we're doing what the Bible calls us to do.
00:21:35.400 | Right?
00:21:36.400 | So by application, that little blank is just simply, we should all have a heart of a loving
00:21:43.560 | parent.
00:21:45.800 | Now obviously we're not going to be treating each other like, oh, you're my little kid,
00:21:50.760 | you know, because then that's going to be taken as very prideful too.
00:21:53.640 | It's like, you're not my dad, you know?
00:21:56.800 | But there is a sense that every person that you see and you want to minister to, you want
00:22:01.200 | to look at them like a parent.
00:22:03.840 | If they, whatever they need, I'm willing to supply.
00:22:07.720 | If they need a rebuking, then I will supply rebuking.
00:22:10.600 | If they need encouragement and soft comfort, then I'm going to provide soft comfort and
00:22:14.360 | encouragement, whatever they need.
00:22:16.960 | That's the heart of a parent.
00:22:18.960 | Okay?
00:22:20.400 | Verse 16.
00:22:21.400 | In verse 16, he says, "Therefore I exhort you, be imitators of me."
00:22:30.680 | And so you can see him again, therefore, what is the basis of his exhortation?
00:22:37.240 | It says fatherly love.
00:22:39.320 | But then he says, be imitators of me.
00:22:41.800 | Okay?
00:22:42.960 | And I don't know if I blanked it out, I'm supposed to.
00:22:45.440 | The imitators in the Greek is the word where we get the word mimic.
00:22:50.240 | Literally copy after me.
00:22:51.880 | Do what I do.
00:22:53.240 | Okay?
00:22:54.240 | Which is quite profound if you think about it.
00:22:58.640 | And I definitely hope that as I parent my own kids, I could tell them, do what I do.
00:23:03.760 | Like, follow Appa.
00:23:05.240 | Follow how Appa treats your mom.
00:23:07.740 | Follow how Appa treats your brother.
00:23:09.520 | Follow how Appa is hardworking.
00:23:10.880 | Follow how Appa is prayerful.
00:23:12.840 | I hope that my character would be one where I can tell my kids, follow Appa.
00:23:16.800 | You know?
00:23:17.800 | And Apostle Paul essentially is saying that.
00:23:21.240 | But I think when he says that, when he says this interesting term, mimic me, again, a
00:23:26.720 | lot of criticism has been given to churches and Christian faith because there's a sense
00:23:33.600 | in which some people don't like this idea of mimic somebody.
00:23:36.760 | Are we producing clones?
00:23:38.920 | You know?
00:23:39.920 | Are we producing replicas?
00:23:41.240 | And we're supposed to do exactly, everybody the same way and we're supposed to follow
00:23:44.800 | suit?
00:23:45.800 | Well, obviously this is, he's not saying in every little thing I do, you know?
00:23:50.120 | He's not saying his temperament and everything.
00:23:53.360 | But in the things that are truly spiritual.
00:23:56.120 | But in thinking about that, I think it teaches us something about discipleship.
00:24:01.560 | Let me ask you this question.
00:24:03.440 | By Apostle Paul saying, mimic me, what does that teach us about discipleship in general?
00:24:10.600 | Either like a method or a principle in discipleship?
00:24:17.280 | Yes.
00:24:20.360 | Right.
00:24:23.800 | Not just words, but lifestyle.
00:24:25.720 | Absolutely.
00:24:26.720 | There's a sense in which there is a difference between challenging others directly and challenging
00:24:34.880 | others indirectly.
00:24:37.800 | And you have to realize at Berean, we give people opportunities to serve and to challenge
00:24:46.400 | others through their faith.
00:24:48.440 | And obviously in terms of teaching, teaching the Bible, we hold that as like, you have
00:24:53.000 | to be really qualified.
00:24:54.960 | But every single one of us can indirectly be discipling others.
00:24:59.960 | Why?
00:25:00.960 | Through our own dedication, through our own commitment, through our own self-evaluation
00:25:05.560 | and through our own sanctification, we're constantly discipling others.
00:25:11.520 | You won't believe how many times I've been inspired and discipled indirectly by just
00:25:16.520 | watching people.
00:25:17.520 | So if you ever see me just staring at you, it's not because you have something on your
00:25:20.360 | face.
00:25:21.360 | It's because I do that a lot.
00:25:22.360 | I kind of watch people and like, wow.
00:25:24.600 | You know, when people are doing things in the background.
00:25:27.940 | Because that's the kind of way I operate too.
00:25:30.040 | I always watch that.
00:25:31.160 | And I get inspired.
00:25:32.400 | I get totally inspired.
00:25:34.880 | So again, Apostle Paul in his exhortation, he commands them or he exhorts them to be
00:25:41.200 | imitators.
00:25:42.200 | And in verse 17 he says, "For this reason I have sent to you Timothy, who is my beloved
00:25:47.520 | and faithful child in the Lord.
00:25:49.120 | And he will remind you of my ways which are in Christ, just as I teach everyone in every
00:25:55.480 | church."
00:25:56.480 | Okay?
00:25:58.360 | So earlier Christine Cha mentioned about the kind of aim that somebody has.
00:26:06.680 | Apostle Paul says here that for this reason I have sent you Timothy.
00:26:12.800 | I just kind of, in studying I saw different views from different commentaries.
00:26:16.920 | So I put this question in there.
00:26:18.120 | It's not necessarily like a profound one or whatever.
00:26:21.000 | But he says, "For this reason I sent to you Timothy."
00:26:25.800 | Is this the same reason in verse 16 where he says, "Therefore I exhort you."
00:26:30.680 | Or is this a different reason?
00:26:34.000 | What do you think?
00:26:40.880 | Some options are, was it his fatherly love that he sent Timothy?
00:26:49.280 | Was it for the reason of mimicking Apostle Paul?
00:26:53.920 | Was it for the reason of practically obeying what he taught?
00:26:59.000 | What was the reason?
00:27:09.720 | All of the above.
00:27:10.720 | I guess you can say all of the above, huh?
00:27:14.320 | I feel like your answers are typically like that.
00:27:16.080 | Is it this or that?
00:27:17.760 | Both.
00:27:18.760 | That's cool though.
00:27:19.760 | You know, actually, I mean, I guess it could be.
00:27:22.480 | I don't think we have to decide, okay, it's exclusively one or the other.
00:27:28.520 | But does anybody have a ... Because of his fatherly love.
00:27:35.320 | Any other guesses?
00:27:36.320 | Or why would you say it's because of his fatherly love?
00:27:39.800 | Well, it comes right after ... It was interviewing verse about ... Just before that, it only
00:28:02.360 | came after he sent Timothy because he's already about to imitate him.
00:28:26.600 | And so then the most immediately preceding thing that makes sense to refer to is, I became
00:28:27.600 | your father in Christ Jesus, who you got from.
00:28:28.600 | Okay, gotcha.
00:28:29.600 | Just distance.
00:28:30.600 | Okay, just distance.
00:28:31.600 | So, Paul's a Paul in everything that he's doing, from admonishing, loving, being a father
00:28:36.800 | and whatnot, exhorting.
00:28:39.880 | He's doing all those things because he's motivated by his fatherly love.
00:28:44.600 | So even in sending Timothy, can it be because he's motivated by his fatherly love?
00:28:49.600 | Absolutely.
00:28:50.600 | But I guess I personally took it more on the side.
00:28:54.160 | I basically took one of the commentaries' position and said, he says, "For this reason,
00:28:59.800 | I have sent to you Timothy, who is my beloved faithful child in the Lord, and he will remind
00:29:07.040 | you of the ways which are in Christ, just as I teach everywhere in every church."
00:29:13.400 | So I took it more to mean, Timothy is sent for a very specific purpose, to remind you
00:29:19.320 | of my ways, the way I did things, the way I taught you, how I taught you to obey, how
00:29:26.000 | I taught you to behave and function in the church.
00:29:28.920 | So I took it to mean that when he says, "For this reason," and the reason is for your mimicking
00:29:33.080 | of Apostle Paul, for your spiritual growth and practicality in the expression of your
00:29:38.000 | faith being portrayed in your deeds, I'm sending you Timothy.
00:29:43.840 | Now there are other portions of scripture that speak.
00:29:48.880 | For example, in 3 John, John says, "I have no greater joy than this, to hear my children
00:29:58.560 | walking in the truth."
00:30:00.840 | In Galatians 4, 19, Apostle Paul says, "My children, with whom I am in labor until Christ
00:30:05.520 | is formed in you."
00:30:08.800 | So earlier, Christine said, "To be a father, to be someone who truly loves an individual,
00:30:15.720 | you have their spiritual best in your sight all the time."
00:30:20.600 | He's kind of discouraged because Apostle Paul is like continuing to love them and the
00:30:24.200 | church is continuing to doubt his apostleship.
00:30:29.120 | But the fact of the matter is, Apostle Paul still nonetheless had their spiritual good
00:30:34.960 | in mind at all times.
00:30:36.520 | And what is their spiritual good?
00:30:37.840 | To be in line with the will of God.
00:30:42.400 | To mature from their sin of pride, which is one of the greatest that is taught to us in
00:30:47.440 | the Bible.
00:30:49.480 | And so I think there's a sense in which Apostle Paul, in sending Timothy, he's still pursuing
00:30:56.040 | that goal of causing these Christians in Corinth to mature.
00:31:02.160 | And so he's going to give an exhortation about that aspect, where faith needs to be mature
00:31:08.080 | to action.
00:31:09.960 | Next verses.
00:31:12.960 | In verse 18 he says, "Now some have become arrogant as though I weren't coming to you."
00:31:22.800 | We know that Apostle Paul was battling arrogance, you know, because arrogantly they're saying,
00:31:28.800 | "I'm of Paul, I'm of Apollos, you know, I'm of Cephas."
00:31:33.720 | And they're kind of having this like, "I'm better than you because of who taught me,"
00:31:37.040 | kind of thing.
00:31:38.800 | But can you try to think of why Apostle Paul would call them arrogant?
00:31:44.520 | Is it because it's arrogant to think Apostle Paul won't come?
00:31:50.320 | Is it arrogant, you know, why call them arrogant at this point?
00:31:57.880 | Like, I guess, what's the arrogance that Apostle Paul is, you know, pinpointing here?
00:32:22.880 | Yes?
00:32:23.880 | [inaudible]
00:32:52.880 | There you go.
00:33:03.080 | I think I agree with what Mitchell is saying.
00:33:06.920 | What's, I guess, funny, and not necessarily funny, but what's interesting about this scenario
00:33:11.960 | is did the Corinthian church think they were spiritually mature?
00:33:17.160 | They didn't.
00:33:18.160 | They actually thought they were the opposite.
00:33:21.040 | They thought they were spiritually elevated.
00:33:23.920 | And I think there's an element in which they were definitely going above and beyond, and
00:33:27.080 | because they thought Apostle Paul wasn't coming, Mitchell said, "They end up saying whatever
00:33:31.160 | they want."
00:33:32.160 | You know?
00:33:33.160 | So, good, I think you kind of hit the nail on the head.
00:33:36.400 | They end up saying whatever they want.
00:33:38.240 | They end up saying stuff and there's no consequences to it because they don't think Apostle Paul
00:33:43.480 | is coming.
00:33:44.480 | There is this attitude of, "I'm going to say and do what I want."
00:33:49.280 | All right?
00:33:50.280 | And I think we never verbalize that in our lives.
00:33:57.280 | You know?
00:33:58.280 | Like, "I'm just going to do whatever I want."
00:33:59.800 | But we do that a lot, don't we?
00:34:02.160 | People might advise us one way or the other.
00:34:04.640 | People might, you know, kind of direct us and guide us with good counsel, but a lot
00:34:09.100 | of times we do what in the end?
00:34:11.160 | We do what we want, even if someone's trying to teach you the other way.
00:34:15.600 | Why?
00:34:16.600 | Because there's this attitude in us, deep in us, an element of pride that says, "I'm
00:34:21.120 | going to do what I want."
00:34:22.480 | Right?
00:34:23.480 | And I think that's the kind of idea that he's getting at here.
00:34:26.760 | In verse 19 through 20, oh, sorry, I wanted to tell you about the story of Eli and his
00:34:31.880 | sons.
00:34:34.480 | The story of Eli and his sons are a pretty sad story because Eli is actually seen as
00:34:39.760 | a very good prophet.
00:34:43.240 | But there's a marr in the story, there's a bad attribute to his character because of
00:34:51.840 | his sons.
00:34:53.720 | And what happens is, his two sons, Hophni and Phinehas, they end up doing whatever they
00:34:59.680 | want within the temple.
00:35:02.200 | And the thing about it is, they not only just do whatever they want, they do things that
00:35:06.200 | are completely egregious to the Lord.
00:35:08.680 | Things like, people come to the sanctuary to offer sacrifices, right?
00:35:12.980 | So they swindle them.
00:35:15.400 | Ladies come to the sanctuary to offer sacrifices, right?
00:35:18.280 | So they have sexually immoral relationships with them.
00:35:21.600 | They were opening up the sanctuary doors, the temple doors, to all kinds of sin and
00:35:25.760 | rank immorality.
00:35:28.060 | And so, these two brothers needed to be rebuked, but their attitude was, "We do what we want."
00:35:34.720 | What's crazy about this whole scenario is, Eli is judged for that.
00:35:38.720 | It's like, "Whoa, wait a minute.
00:35:41.920 | Hophni and Phinehas were the two sons who were wicked."
00:35:44.360 | Yes, but God, if you read the story, God rebukes Eli.
00:35:50.040 | And there's an element in which, by allowing sin and his sons to do whatever they want
00:35:55.160 | and not stemming their pride, Eli was again, guilty too.
00:36:00.600 | And there's a sense in which we can say, when an individual sees sin, but they do not address
00:36:07.760 | it, there is always a case in which you honor man more than God.
00:36:14.200 | Eli then might be guilty of honoring his sons more than the Lord.
00:36:18.160 | Does that make sense?
00:36:20.000 | So I bring that story up because Apostle Paul essentially says, "I'm not letting you get
00:36:27.320 | away with your sins."
00:36:29.240 | He says in verse 19, "But I will come to you soon, if the Lord wills, and I shall find
00:36:35.040 | out not the words of those who are arrogant, but their power.
00:36:39.760 | For the kingdom of God does not consist in words, but in power."
00:36:46.720 | Now you see a contrast.
00:36:48.480 | The kingdom of God does not consist in words, but in power.
00:36:51.960 | That's a general principle.
00:36:53.400 | I love it when he gives universal truth.
00:36:55.400 | The kingdom of God is like this.
00:36:56.680 | It's not of words, but of power.
00:36:58.960 | That's really interesting.
00:37:00.880 | What does power represent as he's contrasting these two things, words and power?
00:37:25.800 | What do you think that power represents?
00:37:29.840 | I guess more specifically, what is he comparing?
00:37:58.680 | Power of the Spirit to do what God wants.
00:38:01.600 | Yes, Eugene.
00:38:03.240 | [Audience member asks question]
00:38:30.600 | Okay.
00:38:56.400 | So far we have one, power as in, I'm going to call that supernatural power.
00:39:02.240 | Supernatural in the sense that maybe God has invested in the apostles power and authority
00:39:07.280 | to actually do something.
00:39:09.200 | Then we also have power as in the Holy Spirit's moving in us to do the will of the Lord.
00:39:15.800 | Like that?
00:39:16.800 | Okay.
00:39:17.800 | Good.
00:39:18.800 | Okay.
00:39:19.800 | So in thinking about this, let's, as we take a look at this verse again.
00:39:25.540 | He says, "I shall find out not the words of those who are arrogant, but their power."
00:39:31.560 | So Eugene, I'd have to disagree with yours, but if you look at it, he's talking about
00:39:36.340 | power in them, not necessarily power in himself.
00:39:40.040 | So actually I like what David said.
00:39:43.320 | There's that repeated many times in scripture difference between power just in words as
00:39:51.840 | in faith that's seen only in doctrine as opposed to true spiritual power that's found in the
00:39:58.200 | transformed life.
00:39:59.760 | Okay.
00:40:00.760 | Let me repeat that again.
00:40:02.440 | In the Bible, there is a repeated theme.
00:40:05.840 | Okay.
00:40:06.840 | A repeated theme where faith that exists in words and doctrine is contrasted with the
00:40:14.160 | power of a transformed life.
00:40:17.280 | Okay.
00:40:19.040 | And so the principle, we're trying to think about this for a moment, for the kingdom of
00:40:24.280 | God does not consist in words, but in power.
00:40:27.680 | Okay.
00:40:28.680 | So he tells them, I'm going to examine you.
00:40:31.800 | Okay.
00:40:32.960 | I'm going to examine your words and I'm going to see if there's real power.
00:40:37.640 | As in I'm going to examine both what you're saying and what you're doing.
00:40:41.080 | Right.
00:40:42.080 | I'm going to examine you thoroughly.
00:40:43.960 | Words and deeds.
00:40:44.960 | Okay.
00:40:45.960 | And then he gives this principle, the kingdom of God, kingdom of God that relates to what?
00:40:50.320 | Genuine salvation.
00:40:51.320 | That it relates to the eternal kingdom, the kingdom in the Lord Jesus Christ.
00:40:56.000 | It consists not of words, but in power.
00:40:59.160 | Jesus said in Matthew 7 verse 21, not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord will enter the
00:41:04.600 | kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven will enter.
00:41:11.960 | Right.
00:41:13.400 | So Christ himself is giving a clear principle.
00:41:16.640 | There's going to be so many of you who are going to with words say, Lord, Lord, you know,
00:41:21.720 | I'm with Jesus.
00:41:23.400 | I'm a Christian, but he says, but they're not going to, they're going to be sorely disappointed.
00:41:29.600 | Why?
00:41:30.600 | Because the kingdom of heaven does not consist of those who only have power in words, but
00:41:34.640 | it's going to be the spiritually transformed life of those who do the will of the father.
00:41:40.600 | Okay.
00:41:41.600 | So true spiritual power is seen not in their boastful words, but it's seen in their transformed
00:41:48.200 | living.
00:41:49.200 | Why is he saying this?
00:41:50.200 | Why is he saying this?
00:41:53.320 | Because apostle Paul wants to see tangible change.
00:41:58.120 | Okay.
00:41:59.740 | Apostle Paul doesn't want to see like, here's an exhortation and then them to just agree,
00:42:03.640 | you're right, you're right.
00:42:05.440 | And then they turn around and go on sinning.
00:42:08.360 | Apostle Paul doesn't want to see this kind of like mental acceptance of what he's saying
00:42:12.680 | without the actual life transformation that he's, he's actually expecting from them.
00:42:17.360 | Right?
00:42:18.360 | Likewise for us, there's a thing to be said like, you know, in the many ways that we grow
00:42:23.960 | in our Bible knowledge and the many ways that we grow in our knowledge of the Lord, these
00:42:28.520 | things have to have to be coupled with transformative living, like actual tangible change in the
00:42:36.160 | way that we function, think and do things in our lives.
00:42:40.040 | And I want to challenge us.
00:42:41.240 | If there's some of you who feel, who feel like you've hit what are so-called plateaus,
00:42:47.200 | which again, I believe technically they don't exist because in a relationship you're either
00:42:53.720 | growing really, really far or growing really, really close.
00:42:56.900 | But there are times in our spiritual lives we go to the same Bible studies and church
00:43:00.520 | services for like a number of years.
00:43:02.960 | And there's kind of almost a sense in which, Hmm, I'm not sure if there is this purposeful,
00:43:09.240 | tangible, goal oriented living in my life right now.
00:43:14.040 | Yeah.
00:43:15.400 | And my question to you is, has anything changed in the last several years?
00:43:19.560 | You know, if you've heard exhortation to go, go like share the gospel at work, has anything
00:43:24.680 | actually changed?
00:43:26.640 | If you know, you've heard exhortation to diminish your entertainment consumption and spend more
00:43:30.860 | time and consume consuming the word of the Lord and prayer, has anything actually changed?
00:43:35.880 | If you've been exhorted and challenged to Bible studies to, you know, to reach out to
00:43:39.920 | brothers and sisters, get to know them, ask them good questions, learn who they are, and
00:43:43.280 | then minister to them if at all possible.
00:43:45.480 | Has anything changed in your circle of friends?
00:43:48.640 | I think there's a sense in which the power, the spiritual power that Apostle Paul wants
00:43:53.240 | to see again is the spiritual power of transformed living.
00:43:58.360 | Okay.
00:43:59.360 | So I don't know.
00:44:01.400 | Some of us have been really steadily growing and we've seen just radical changes in our
00:44:05.840 | lives and some of us change is slow, which is fine.
00:44:09.120 | But again, I want to ask you this question.
00:44:11.200 | Tangibly speaking, have things changed in the last several years?
00:44:14.400 | And if they haven't, then yeah, you're going to end up feeling like, man, I'm not really
00:44:19.040 | like driven right now.
00:44:20.040 | I'm not really goal.
00:44:21.040 | Like there isn't a goal that I'm pursuing.
00:44:23.160 | You know, there isn't an attachment of the things that I do with my life to what God
00:44:26.840 | really wants and the will of the Lord, you know?
00:44:30.240 | So lastly, in verse 21, okay, what do you desire?
00:44:37.760 | He's kind of asking like, what will it be?
00:44:39.960 | Huh?
00:44:40.960 | And he says, shall I come with you with a rod or with love and a gentle spirit?
00:44:47.440 | His tone suddenly changes and he speaks almost in a threatening way.
00:44:51.120 | He says, what's it going to be?
00:44:53.360 | Right?
00:44:54.640 | And I ask this question, as he says this, as he says this statement and asks the church
00:44:59.920 | this question, what does this say about apostle Paul and how he viewed them?
00:45:06.080 | You know, we've been talking about it so far that he's viewing them as a father, you know,
00:45:17.720 | but just think about the question for a moment.
00:45:21.960 | It is weird that he kind of ends the letter in this basically threat, you know?
00:45:30.880 | Think about it.
00:45:31.880 | How does apostle Paul view them?
00:45:47.360 | You guys can leave that as one of your discussion questions, you know?
00:45:51.120 | But can we learn about how apostle Paul viewed his relationship with the church and how he
00:45:56.640 | viewed the church, you know?
00:45:59.320 | All right.
00:46:01.040 | So today, really, to summarize, apostle Paul exhorts them to cease from this division and
00:46:09.400 | pride and he says multiple things.
00:46:12.280 | I admonish you, I exhort you, I'm going to come and examine you, but in the end he says,
00:46:17.720 | I'm doing all this stuff because I'm your father, because I love you, right?
00:46:22.840 | I'm saying all this stuff to you not to shame you, complete opposite.
00:46:27.440 | I'm doing the hard stuff because I completely love you as a father with a son, right?
00:46:32.160 | I think that's pretty amazing and it challenges us to think about the way we view the people
00:46:36.600 | around us.
00:46:37.600 | It challenges us to think about the way we encourage and exhort people around us too.
00:46:42.960 | All right.
00:46:44.360 | Let's pray and wrap up today's study.
00:46:47.840 | Heavenly Father, we want to thank you that you have used such men as apostle Paul.
00:46:56.320 | Lord, we have at our church many people who love the church so much more than themselves.
00:47:04.760 | We have so many people in the church who are willing to expend themselves and literally
00:47:10.220 | die to themselves rather than to see the church hurt or suffer.
00:47:14.800 | I thank you Father God that you have placed such men in the life of the church, Lord.
00:47:20.520 | I pray Father God that we all would be challenged, that we all would be challenged to change
00:47:26.160 | in our lives.
00:47:27.160 | God, that we might have true spiritual power and not just in word and doctrine.
00:47:33.760 | I pray also Father Lord that you would use us to admonish, to exhort, to comfort and
00:47:40.240 | to love the people around us, Lord.
00:47:43.220 | As you have called the church to be truly a body that's so connected as a family, I
00:47:48.380 | pray Lord that that would be fulfilled in our church here.
00:47:51.840 | Thank you in Christ's name.